[newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread GlacierTrek

Hey folks. . .

About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 
5.2 on my PC.  I've spent very little time fooling with it since.  I've now 
decided that I'd really like to  learn Linux but would rather do so via 
Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat .   I'm at 
a loss for tracking down info  about how one would uninstall Redhat and 
install another Linux distribution  such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly 
not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got.

Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary 
steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC,  yet keeping the existing 
partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a 
clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ?   I can't find such information in any 
of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got.   I'm assuming that there are a 
few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before.  It 
would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel.

Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated.  Thanks ; )

John Gasbarre
Vinalhaven Island, ME
http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely
heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche







Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread L. H. LOO

At 01-10-2000 04:12 AM, you wrote:
  about how one would uninstall Redhat and install another Linux 
distribution  such as Mandrake 7.1.

Hi,
If you want to install Mandrake over RedHat, just boot your computer with 
the boot disk from Mandrake (or a pure DOS boot disk).  Proceed with 
Mandrake installation - (as if nothing is there) - Linux-Mandrake will 
detect the existing linux and 'ask' you for permission to 
over-write/delete, 'say OK' and carry on, every thing will be fine. IF you 
are going to remove linux (any distro) and install some other OS, then surf 
to : 
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/sl-q-and-a-removing.html
 

I did both above procedures and both worked for me.
Regards





Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Larry Marshall


  Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary 
  steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC,  yet keeping the existing 
  partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a 

It's easy...don't worry about it.  Just run the Mandrake install and it'll see
the Linux partitions and use them, overwriting the RH installation.

Cheers --- Larry





Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Gavin

On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Hey folks. . .
 
 About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 
 5.2 on my PC.  I've spent very little time fooling with it since.  I've now 
 decided that I'd really like to  learn Linux but would rather do so via 
 Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat .   I'm at 
 a loss for tracking down info  about how one would uninstall Redhat and 
 install another Linux distribution  such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly 
 not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got.
 
 Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary 
 steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC,  yet keeping the existing 
 partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a 
 clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ?   I can't find such information in any 
 of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got.   I'm assuming that there are a 
 few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before.  It 
 would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel.
 
 Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated.  Thanks ; )
 
 John Gasbarre
 Vinalhaven Island, ME
 http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 * * * * *
 John A. Gasbarre
 Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA
 http://facelink.com/i90
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 "Two people have been living in you all your life.
 One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical,
 calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being,
 whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely
 heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche

My friend,
upgrading to Mandrake 7.1 is very simple being that Mandrake is 100% compad.
with red hat, you can just install (upgrade)from red hat. I had 6.1 and all I
did was run the upgrade program.. every thing was ok since then.. I hope this
helped some. good luck
Gavin




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Tom Brinkman


 Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the
 necessary steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC,  yet keeping
 the existing partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows
 95) in preparation for a clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ? 
 John Gasbarre
 Vinalhaven Island, ME
 http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to 
keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format.
So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 
partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install
-- 
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Vic

One can opt to have Mandrake format the partitions,
but not remove them during the first part of the install,
please e mail back if you need any more info.

Hope this helps.
Vic


On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, GlacierTrek wrote:
 Hey folks. . .
 
 About a year ago, I partitioned my handdrive and installed a copy of Redhat 
 5.2 on my PC.  I've spent very little time fooling with it since.  I've now 
 decided that I'd really like to  learn Linux but would rather do so via 
 Mandrake 7.1 rather than upgrading to a newer version of Redhat .   I'm at 
 a loss for tracking down info  about how one would uninstall Redhat and 
 install another Linux distribution  such as Mandrake 7.1.It's certainly 
 not info offered in any of the Redhat users guides that I've got.
 
 Would someone on the list be kind enough to walk me through the necessary 
 steps for uninstalling Redhat from my PC,  yet keeping the existing 
 partition for Linux intact (I'm also using Windows 95) in preparation for a 
 clean installation of Mandrake 7.1 ?   I can't find such information in any 
 of the Redhat books/users manuals I've got.   I'm assuming that there are a 
 few people on this mailing list who've been down this same path before.  It 
 would just be great to not have to reinvent the wheel.
 
 Any/all feedback or suggestions would be greatly appraciated.  Thanks ; )
 
 John Gasbarre
 Vinalhaven Island, ME
 http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 * * * * *
 John A. Gasbarre
 Vinalhaven Island, Maine USA
 http://facelink.com/i90
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 "Two people have been living in you all your life.
 One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical,
 calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being,
 whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely
 heard or attended to." --Sogyal Rinpoche




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread GlacierTrek

Tom:

Thanks for the info. I appreciate you taking the time.

John



 During the 7.1 (also 7.2)
install you'll be able to choose to 
keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format.
So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2 
partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install
-- 
Tom Brinkman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston
Bay


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John Gasbarre 
Vinalhaven Island, Maine  USA
http://profiles.yahoo.com/hunzaman1

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Two people have been living in you all your life.
One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical,
calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being,
whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely
heard or attended to. --Sogyal Rinpoche





RE: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Rick Commo

-Original Message-
During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose to
keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to format.
So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your ext2
partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install


This raises a couple of questions.

(1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions?
If you have any kind of extensive home directory that could be a pain.  ON
the other hand if your /home is on a different partition I can certainly see
the benefit of formatting all BUT /home.  It would get a rid of a lot of
detritus that could trip you up later I suppose.  Of course there you would
also lose any optional installed packages and that could be a pain.

(2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not
replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't
remember if there was an "upgrade" choice.

Thanks,
-rick






Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby

Rick:
In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option.
I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as
opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there
wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a
better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer
Mandrake, configure and restore the data.
-- Carroll

Rick Commo wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 snip
 (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not
 replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't
 remember if there was an "upgrade" choice.
 
 Thanks,
 -rick




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Erylon Hines

On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 Rick:
 In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option.
 I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as
 opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there
 wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a
 better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer
 Mandrake, configure and restore the data.
 -- Carroll
I agree with this.   The upgrade from mdk7.0 to mdk7.1 took 7 HOURS on my
machine, and its a PIII @ 733mhz with 128 meg of ram.  That is a loong time.

Eryl




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Dennis Myers

Erylon Hines wrote:
 
 On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  Rick:
  In reply to your second question, yes, 7.1 does have an upgrade option.
  I used it to move from 7.0 -- it took a long, long time -- hours as
  opposed to the 45 minutes or so that it took to install 7.0. Since there
  wasn't all that much non-distro stuff on the drive, it might have been a
  better idea to backup the data, clean the disk, install the newer
  Mandrake, configure and restore the data.
  -- Carroll
 I agree with this.   The upgrade from mdk7.0 to mdk7.1 took 7 HOURS on my
 machine, and its a PIII @ 733mhz with 128 meg of ram.  That is a loong time.
 
 Eryl
I don't understand what happens here, I upgraded my 7.0 and it took
about 1.5 hrs to do a development upgrade. I run an AMD K6-II 400
Processor. I see all kinds of different run times and there does'nt seem
to be any rhyme or reason. Any body have an idea why the spread in
upgrade time?
-- 
Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842




Re: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sun, 01 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 -Original Message-

 During the 7.1 (also 7.2) install you'll be able to choose
  to keep your existing partitions, and which ones you want to
  format. So you don't need to uninstall RH, just select all your
  ext2 partitons for re-formatting during the Mandrake install

 This raises a couple of questions.

 (1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions?

   not necessarily, but the original poster was wanting to upgrade 
from RH 5.xIn that case I wouldn't try anything but a 
format/install

 If you have any kind of extensive home directory that could be a
 pain.  ON the other hand if your /home is on a different partition
 I can certainly see the benefit of formatting all BUT /home.

   doesn't make any difference, formatting in 7.x is *quick*

 (2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to
 *upgrade* (not replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a
 clean disk and now I don't remember if there was an "upgrade"
 choice.
 -rick

I installed 7.2 b3 yesterday.  As with every 'upgrade since 6.0, 
I save the personal and conf files I want to keep, and wipe the old 
system...and do a fresh install.  It's better and quicker than an 
upgrade.  BTW, upgrade in 7.2 is labeled 'rescue'.  AND, 7.2 beta 3 
is very rough around the edges.  I can't recommend it for less than 
the adventurous.  Wait for a release candidate or the final if you 
plan on upgrading to 7.2.  Besides some obvious Mandrake system 
bugs, I don't believe KDE2 or XF-4 is entirely there yet either
-- 
Tom Brinkman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




RE: [newbie] Replacing Redhat with Mandrake 7.1

2000-10-01 Thread Paul

It was Oct 1, 2000, 16:27, when Rick Commo keyboarded:

(1) Must one reformat all the ext2 partitions?

Nope. You can select the partition you want to format, even go without any
formatting.

(2) When Mandrake 7.2 comes out, what will be the best way to *upgrade* (not
replace) Mandrake 7.1? I started with 7.1 on a clean disk and now I don't
remember if there was an "upgrade" choice.

There IS an upgrade option. I have used it from Redhat 5.2 to Mandrake
6.0, 6.1, 7.0 and 7.1. So I am pretty certain. ;)

Paul

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