Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:01, Andy Yankovich wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 06:43 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 23:31, Andy Yankovich wrote: SNIP I have tried to install Opera from The Club and failed miserably - undoubtedly due to my lack of know-how. If you want Opera just click here :- http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26339location=122noth anks=yessub=marine That will download Opera 8.0 for Mandrake 10.1 (Its a beta version but it works great) Click on the download with konqueror and it will install. You will be prompted for your root password. Ignore any messages about unknown signatures. That just means it was not packaged by MandrakeSoft. derek After downloading I clicked on 'open destination', put in my password for root, then a Konqueror window opened with 'file:/var/tmp/kdecache-andy/krun/' in the location bar. Now, how do I get the program to run? I tired clicking on the URL but nothing happens. What did I do wrong or what don't I understand? Appreciate your help very much. Andy Maybe I should have tested that link before cut and pasting it. Try http://www.opera.com/download/?ver=8.0b1 Make sure the Linux tab is selected, and use the drop down box to select Mandrake, then select 10.1 and pick a download site. It should download a file called opera-8.0-20050104.5-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm clicking on that with konqueror will install Opera. I cannot remember if Opera automatically creates a menu entry. If it does an Opera icon will appear in your menu under InternetWeb Browsers (It can take a minute or so) If no icon appears then hit Alt+F2 and type 'opera' in the drop down box to launch Opera, and you can use menudrake (In Mandrake Control Centre) to create your own menu item. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 10:39 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 07:41 pm, SOTL wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 06:31 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: Please, do not assume this is apostasy. What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake 10.1? 9.2 is installable in thinkpads with out modification 10.1 is not Can you clarify what you mean, 10.1 is running great on my Thinkpad. 9.2 uses KDE 3.1 10.1 uses KDE 3.2 which has close x on tab windows which cause you to accidentally close the screen all the time. Other than than for usage not much. If you have 9.2 working personally I don't believe it is worth the effort to upgrade unless you enjoy upgrading. I think he is comparing SUSE 9.2 to Mandrake 10.1, not Mandrake 9.2 to Mandrake 10.1. Well if that is what you need. With SuSE 9.2 it will not install on a IBM Thinkpad without modification. There are issues with which driver is correct, one may find out which screen is installed for which Thinkpad by questions on the Thinkpad BB or from IBM but in general this information like the internals of almost all laptops is unknown, also issues with networking configuration and wireless configuration if you attempt to configure the system with out having those inputs connect at time of installation. Then of course there are issues with YEST2 if someone desire to do anything slightly different than SuSE perscribed path. Other than that SuSE is a great distribution with the latest in programs. Meanwhile back at Mandrake one is stuck with KDE 3.2 instead of the latest KDE 3.3 a screwed installation from Mandrake 9.2 which is extremely better than SuSE 9.2 and a host of other half ass issues such as missing critical files required to run desired programs. In short SuSE is put together better but has major installation issues while Mandrake install easily but has major issues with having everything needed to run a program installed. So you have a choice of do you want immeate installation and later repairs or immediate repairs and then stability. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
Please, do not assume this is apostasy. What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake 10.1? My understanding of SUSE is that it includes integrated Opera 7.54, Firefox and Thunderbird on its DVD. I also understand that beginning about two weeks ago and continuing for a few weeks, one may download and burn into a DVD the Pro 9.2 version of SUSE. It is also my understanding that I would be able to run Libronix Bible Software on SUSE with its inclusion of Opera, and the addition of Cross Over from Codeweavers. I have tried to install Opera from The Club and failed miserably - undoubtedly due to my lack of know-how. Are there compelling reasons why Mandrake is still preferred? Am I misinformed? You guys are a great bunch and have already provided many of us newbies with a tremendous amount of freely and gladly given support, for which we all are grateful. I would truly appreciate your responses. Andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 23:31, Andy Yankovich wrote: SNIP I have tried to install Opera from The Club and failed miserably - undoubtedly due to my lack of know-how. If you want Opera just click here :- http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26339location=122nothanks=yessub=marine That will download Opera 8.0 for Mandrake 10.1 (Its a beta version but it works great) Click on the download with konqueror and it will install. You will be prompted for your root password. Ignore any messages about unknown signatures. That just means it was not packaged by MandrakeSoft. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:31 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: Please, do not assume this is apostasy. What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake 10.1? 9.2 is installable in thinkpads with out modification 10.1 is not 9.2 uses KDE 3.1 10.1 uses KDE 3.2 which has close x on tab windows which cause you to accidentally close the screen all the time. Other than than for usage not much. If you have 9.2 working personally I don't believe it is worth the effort to upgrade unless you enjoy upgrading. My understanding of SUSE is that it includes integrated Opera 7.54, Firefox and Thunderbird on its DVD. I also understand that beginning about two weeks ago and continuing for a few weeks, one may download and burn into a DVD the Pro 9.2 version of SUSE. It is also my understanding that I would be able to run Libronix Bible Software on SUSE with its inclusion of Opera, and the addition of Cross Over from Codeweavers. I have tried to install Opera from The Club and failed miserably - undoubtedly due to my lack of know-how. Are there compelling reasons why Mandrake is still preferred? Am I misinformed? You guys are a great bunch and have already provided many of us newbies with a tremendous amount of freely and gladly given support, for which we all are grateful. I would truly appreciate your responses. Andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:43 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 23:31, Andy Yankovich wrote: SNIP I have tried to install Opera from The Club and failed miserably - undoubtedly due to my lack of know-how. If you want Opera just click here :- http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=26339location=122noth anks=yessub=marine That will download Opera 8.0 for Mandrake 10.1 (Its a beta version but it works great) Click on the download with konqueror and it will install. You will be prompted for your root password. Ignore any messages about unknown signatures. That just means it was not packaged by MandrakeSoft. derek After downloading I clicked on 'open destination', put in my password for root, then a Konqueror window opened with 'file:/var/tmp/kdecache-andy/krun/' in the location bar. Now, how do I get the program to run? I tired clicking on the URL but nothing happens. What did I do wrong or what don't I understand? Appreciate your help very much. Andy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 07:41 pm, SOTL wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 06:31 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: Please, do not assume this is apostasy. What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake 10.1? 9.2 is installable in thinkpads with out modification 10.1 is not Can you clarify what you mean, 10.1 is running great on my Thinkpad. 9.2 uses KDE 3.1 10.1 uses KDE 3.2 which has close x on tab windows which cause you to accidentally close the screen all the time. Other than than for usage not much. If you have 9.2 working personally I don't believe it is worth the effort to upgrade unless you enjoy upgrading. I think he is comparing SUSE 9.2 to Mandrake 10.1, not Mandrake 9.2 to Mandrake 10.1. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
On Monday 24 January 2005 03:31 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: | Please, do not assume this is apostasy. | | What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake | 10.1? | | SuSe isn't as cutting edge as Mandrake--the upside--most stuff works without hassles. Because it is cutting edge, things sometimes don't work as they are supposed to in Mandrake. Mandrake has far better configuration tools (IMO). Yast still sucks. SuSe has some pretty serious hardware requirements--I can get Mandrake to run fast (with KDE) on a P300. SuSe won't, and I can't figure out why--it is just slow. On the other hand, the Debian 2.6.7 kernel runs fine (KDE) on a P233. If you want to get more than just a basic system you need SuSe Pro. The download Demo disk is pretty basic. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SUSE Pro 9.2 vs. Mandrake 10.1
Mandrake 10.1 comes with Opera on the dvd disk. Though it could be as I have the powerpack version ;) On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:26:32 -0800, Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 03:31 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: | Please, do not assume this is apostasy. | | What are the main differences between SUSE Pro 9.2 and Mandrake | 10.1? | | SuSe isn't as cutting edge as Mandrake--the upside--most stuff works without hassles. Because it is cutting edge, things sometimes don't work as they are supposed to in Mandrake. Mandrake has far better configuration tools (IMO). Yast still sucks. SuSe has some pretty serious hardware requirements--I can get Mandrake to run fast (with KDE) on a P300. SuSe won't, and I can't figure out why--it is just slow. On the other hand, the Debian 2.6.7 kernel runs fine (KDE) on a P233. If you want to get more than just a basic system you need SuSe Pro. The download Demo disk is pretty basic. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Spread FireFox: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/registerr=32751 Get FireFox: http://www.getfirefox.com OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org Mandrake: http://www.mandrakelinux.com Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
