Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Just make sure your Cable Agreements allows such a thing. On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Rlongo wrote: John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
From: Ronald A. Yacketta Have you turned on ip forwarding? "Rlongo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/02/99 06:16:22 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote: Rlongo wrote: Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo Let us not forget your ISP will get slightly upset for your using their backbone connection to run your own service. This clearly violates any contract I've ever seen. To the best of my understanding you need a static IP address and your ISP most likely has given you a dynamic one. Even when you get a cable service you'll be violating all sorts of contract agreements by trying to run a service off the back of the cable service. Think twice and get some legal advice before proceeding. Good Luck Joseph S. Gardner I conquer. Most Cable agreements even if they forbid you to run Servers explicity forbid resellin of services.
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
From: Ronald A. Yacketta question... are you getting your own dedicated connection to the net like a T1/T3 etc..?? or are you useing a ISP yourself and then selling a service (like a ISP) to others? if your doing the latrer, might want to get some legal advice I doubt your ISP would like you makeing money off them "Rlongo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/30/99 06:51:59 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP Hi I'm Rob, New to the list and using Linux, what's up dudes! Power to the Penguin!!!? I guess =)I'm lookin for some straight forward step-by-step information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? TIA - Peace Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Rob From what I have seen with the HOWTOs there is no straight forward answer. You have to dig and dig. or just ask someone that has the info and has done it a few times! First you need a few things. (and I am going by memory) You need the DNS addresses of your IP You need to know what kinda Authentication Protocal they use. and the phone number and all that silly stuff they send when you sign up and they ask you what kinda system you have. Once there you will start the Kppp or ppp or whatever you are using as a ppp dialer. click setup click new this is where you edit your ISP info. under the IP tab you will put your ISPs IP addresses they gave you. just kinda look through the rest and fill in what you do know. you will also have a PAP or CHAP option... I used WinPINGPro to get all my info from the ISP here and just plugged in the numbers dialed out and it worked. Jess ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
John Buswell wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft Nice write-up John. I too was looking for such information but wasn't in the market yet, thanks. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Don't forget DNS "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: John Buswell wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Rlongo wrote: information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? Well an ISP is a fairly costly and complex thing to setup. What did you intend on using Linux-Mandrake for (mail, web or everything?). If you intend on using Linux for your core components (ie. you have a few cisco routers for internet access and some terminal servers (like a PM3)), then you should probably look at having a single NFS server with some kind of software or hardware RAID (depending on your budget), a radius server, mail server, web and ftp server (scalable depending on your immediate needs). You may also want to look at a proxy server (use Squid). If you plan on using Linux for everything (if you plan on being a succesful mid-sized ISP I'd recommend you get yourself some Lucent PM3s and a Cisco 7508 and probably a cisco catalyst 2900 (min)). If you have money to burn look at www.alteon.com or www.foundry.net and try deploying a multiple-server multi-purpose load balanced environment, such that each server may run web, ftp and mail and be load balanced in case one server falls. To go back to basics :) The minimum you will need is a web server, ftp server, mail server, radius server and a box to provide network monitoring features (ie. monitor you routers, terminal servers and linux boxes and page/email/notify the administrator if one breaks) :) You should also be aware that while you can get WAN interface cards that will work under Linux a lot of the major backbone providers (such as UUnet/Alternet) require you to have a cisco router, I think for a T3 they require a 7000 series router (if i remember right) :) Hope that helps. oh if you are looking for a good set of books, look at O'Reilly, probably Linux administrator, Linux Network Administrator, NFS and NIS, Sendmail, Learning Perl and learn how to use ipchains :) You may also want to look at securityfocus.org on a regular basis. You should also be pretty familar with IP, especially TCP/UDP, maybe Cisco IOS would be a good thing to learn :), and maybe you should look at some of the books from Cisco press, there is a good one of Advanced Network Design (IP) if you are planning on building a large ISP (now or in the future), it will help you design a fairly decent scalable network. Regards John I.Buswell Development Engineer MandrakeSoft Nice write-up John. I too was looking for such information but wasn't in the market yet, thanks. -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
On Sat, 30 Oct 1999,Rlongo wrote: | Hi I'm Rob, | | New to the list and using Linux, what's up dudes! Power to the | Penguin!!!? I guess =)I'm lookin for some straight forward step-by-step | information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos | that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all | say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one | How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me | out. Any Ideas? | | | TIA - Peace | Rob Longo I am going to make some assumptions with the following steps: 1) You are using a modem connected to a telephone line a) You know what port the modem is connected on b) Your modem is NOT a Winmodem (PCI bus modem) c) Your modem is not PnP, and/or uses standard Port resource allocations (IRQ etc...) 2) You have an existing account with an ISP 3) You have the following information from your ISP a) Your user name for your ISP account b) Your password for your ISP account c) 1 or 2 DNS addresses for your ISP d) if your ISP uses "dynamic IP's", and if not, the IP adderss for your ISP All the following need to be done as the superuser "root" I will assume your modem is not set up in Linux, if it is skip this part First run modemtool from a command line, (or if you use KDE right-click an open area of the desktop, and select "execute command" in the context menu) then select the port on which your modem is connected. Click the "OK" button to save the information. This tells Linux where the modem is connected. Next, run linuxconf, and select the "networking" button. Then select PPP/SLIP/PLIP at the bottom of the resulting window (if you can not see the entire window, hold the ALT key and left-drag the window up). A small window will appear, select add, then select ppp. and follow the prompts. They are pretty self explanatory, and I cannot step through them, as my ppp is already set up. An easier method is to use kppp in KDE. in the KDE panel, select the "K" icon which opens a menu, select "internet", then kppp. In the kppp window, select "setup", then in the resulting window select "new", and in that resulting window enter a name for the connection, and the telephone number to dial. If you wish, you can enter the path to an application you want to run when kppp connects (perhaps a web browser, or email client). Select the "IP" tab, and check that "Dynamic IP address" is selected. This should be the default, and should work with most ISP's. Select the "DNS" tab, and enter the promary DNS address provided by your ISP in the DNS IP adress dialog box, then select "Add", and repeat for the secondary DNS IP address if one is provided (by your ISP). You should leave the "Disable existing DNS servers during connection" checkbos unchecked for most connections. Select the "Gateway" tab, and check that "Default Gateway" is selected (this should work for most ISP's), and that the "Assign the default route to this gateway" checkbox is checked (this should be checked by default). Unless you need to use a "Login Script" to connect to your ISP, or keep track of your connect time (Your service is not "unlimited"), you can let the remaining tabs alone. Select the "OK" button at the bottom of the window, then select "OK" in the remaining window. You may need to exit kppp to enable the information you just provided, if so restart kppp, and enter your Login ID, and password, then select "connect", and you should then connect to your ISP. I hope this is of help, Ernie
[newbie] Setting up sn ISP
Hi I'm Rob, New to the list and using Linux, what's up dudes! Power to the Penguin!!!? I guess =)I'm lookin for some straight forward step-by-step information on how to setup an ISP. I have been reading all the How-Tos that came with my distro but I'm getting really frustrated at how they all say goto this How-To or this How-to while your in the middle of reading one How-To. Is there any site or really good book out there that can help me out. Any Ideas? TIA - Peace Rob Longo
Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP
IPCHAINS MASQ Yeah baby, I was able to get all the PC's on the net setting up the firewall (gateway) using ipchains..I have a question, rebuilding the Kernel, I used make menuconfig and recieved all sorts of errors, how do I get this to work? make config takes to long going through the list one at a time, also I followed all the instructions in the kernel how-to and nuthing seemed to work.I have to say some of these howtos arent really all that helpful, instead more confusing. lemme know, thanks! Rob From: Ronald A. Yacketta Have you turned on ip forwarding? "Rlongo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/02/99 06:16:22 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Setting up sn ISP John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
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I am not concerned with there being a problem setting up my ISP for the mere fact that i have worked in my ISP's sales dept. This was over 5 years ago when they only had 20 customers =) now they have over 2000. I found out I cant get a cable modem in the new area I have just moved to, =( so i am working out a deal on a T1 with em..got a bandwith price of 400 and a circuit prive of 250 for a full T. Later Let us not forget your ISP will get slightly upset for your using their backbone connection to run your own service. This clearly violates any contract I've ever seen. To the best of my understanding you need a static IP address and your ISP most likely has given you a dynamic one. Even when you get a cable service you'll be violating all sorts of contract agreements by trying to run a service off the back of the cable service. Think twice and get some legal advice before proceeding. Good Luck Joseph S. Gardner I conquer. Most Cable agreements even if they forbid you to run Servers explicity forbid resellin of services.
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Please note the below correspondence for a good "bad example" of quoting. This person quoted the ENTIRE message to just say "yeah ok." PLEASE folks, let's try to quote ONLY the most relevant stuff and trim the rest back... Thanks John Aldrich (Former BBS Sysop who remembers when each word used to mean an extra 2 cents in long distance charges G) On Fri, 05 Nov 1999, you wrote: yeah ok Just make sure your Cable Agreements allows such a thing. On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Rlongo wrote: John, Ok here is what I have so far, I am only looking to setup a small ISP with 10 line access on a Comtrol ISA Rocketport card that I have had since my BBS days and would like to use it. I have these 5 Machines on my hub so far: And I am assuming my layout is correct. If not please give me an Idea on how you thing I should do this I will be using a Dial-in PPP to my ISP for access 1. A linux box -(192.168.2.5) To use as a gateway and router to the net for my local lan and the rest of the servers on my network - There is a modem installed to access my provider for now, will be getting a cable interface soon and adding another NIC for it. This will be the Box to make the PPP conection to my ISP works great, I can ping anything on the net. This Box I would like to be my Secondary DNS server plus a firewall or proxy too. 2. A linux box - (192.168.2.4) Intended for a PPP server, houses the Rocketport 8 port serial board, plus 2 internal modems totalling 10 ports for dial-in, would like all requests from the dial in users to go out on the number 1 pc above. This box I would like to be my Primary DNS server 3. A linux box - (192.168.2.2) Running server FTP, MAIL, WWW, and DNS, samba to a Win98 PC that will house home directories. 4. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.1) Basic stuff, must be able to use net going throught the number 1 pc above. 5. Win98 Worstation - (192.168.2.3) Basic stuff - same demand as above Win Pc What I have done so far is I setup the PPP connection to my ISP on box 1, I setup DNS on Box 2, setup all the servers on box 3 I can access my ISP from box 1, and box 1 ONLY =( No other pc on my lan can get net! I can ping em all locally by IP or Name. Here is a link to a small ISP layout that I would like to do. http://www.sydney.apana.org.au/network.htm I just dont understand how to setup all this stuff on the linux boxes, do I use the linuconf or do this stuff manually? the HOWTO's seem to all be doing this stuff manually. Thanks, Rob Longo
