Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-14 Thread Stormjumper

- Original Message - 
From: Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 15:35
Subject: Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's


 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:16:00 -0600
 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Scrape yourself off the ceiling and actually *look* at the tools
you
  have at hand kid, you can do this.
 
  Charlie
  - --

 *laughs* off the ceiling huh?

 lol!  thanks for the mental image.

 mmm so I'm just trying to understand everything before I try using
the
 packages...

 ty... Guess I'll try poking around in Lame  perhaps K3B or Grip...
tho
 I despise cli stuff like this...too many variables to remember to
type
 out.  shrugs, least till I learn it better...

 thx for your help everyone... I shall try ripping/burning a few
 tommorow. :)

well, lame is jam-packed full of options for advanced users,
but supposed using the -r3mix parameter is a really good
compromise between quality and ease-of-use.

the author justifies his views and the -r3mix settings at
(surprise surprise) www.r3mix.net
and i must admit, i'm sold.

hope this helps


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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-13 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:52:06 -0700
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
  Femme
 If you get the minidisc player to work I would love to see a How2 on
 it.

I don't think I can xfer files to/from it... :|

its a big old boombox with a player in it.

Femme

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-13 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:45:22 -0400
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 12 September 2003 05:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  gone
 
  Or take the 5th or something?
 
  sigh
 
  Grounded Femme
 
 Femme:
 In the USA, liquor is commonly sold by the fifth. (Before
 metrification, Canadians referred to the same size bottle as a 26er).
 In view of the other chemicals that you've been taking, I'd advise
 against it. YMMV.-- cmg
 
 
lol :)

No ty..don't need to be hospitalized. :D

Femme

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:03:43 -0400
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  but is that compatible with windows Winamp  stuff?  Ogg is not
  standard afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
  or am I missing something...?
 
  Space Lieutenant Femme
 
 Ogg is a pretty widely accepted/recognized standard. I send Oggs to my
 Windows owning/Winamp using friends all the time. They don't have
 problems with it, AFAIK.
 
 -- 
   
   /\  
 DarkLord 
   \/  
 
 
 So lemme get this straight:

you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I am
still leery about using...)...

That seems very odd if I'm right.

FF 

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:08:24 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:05 pm, Miark wrote:
   Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
   player.
  
  They're comin'. I know of a few that'll be out within the month. But
  granted, if Femme is looking into encoding for a portable player,
  she's stuck with MP3.
 
 Is there a place to find out about these so called portable ogg vorbis
 
 players?  I'm in the market and have been looking at the machines by
 iriver.  Supposedly they are going to be offering a firmware upgrade
 to provide vorbis support, but I cannot find anything new on the
 status of this.-- 
 /g
 
 Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside
 a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
 
 
saw a review on IRiver ... IIRC its either going outta business OR just
got a bad bad review... I'll have to look to be sure though.

Rio  the iPod are the best.

and fwiw, ya I wanna put this stuff onto um... little things, looks like
a mini casette but its not... damnit... I hate being stoned..

anyway Iwanna putit on that...so mp3 is my only option...

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
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September 12, 2003 12:53 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:03:43 -0400

 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
   but is that compatible with windows Winamp  stuff?  Ogg is not
   standard afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
   or am I missing something...?
  
   Space Lieutenant Femme
 
  Ogg is a pretty widely accepted/recognized standard. I send Oggs to
  my Windows owning/Winamp using friends all the time. They don't
  have problems with it, AFAIK.
 
  --
 
/\
  DarkLord
\/

  So lemme get this straight:

 you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I am
 still leery about using...)...

 That seems very odd if I'm right.

 FF

Heather, repeat after me: 

MP3 is technically _not_ open source, has been for years a freely 
licensed proprietary compressed audio format, but the patent holder has 
the right to change that at anytime. Think license fees. Per copy. Or 
even per use if they can prove it. 

The old software models are broken, all the software companies that 
have no true innovation to offer are going to milk what they have for 
all they're worth. Maybe the bone heads should stop playing with models 
and concentrate on business? Just a thought.

Ogg is open source, free (speech and beer both) there are plug-ins for 
most of the newest PDAs and multi-media phones and even players for 
Windows, the Apple portable players are now available even though 
they're outrageously expensive, and others are coming on the market 
before Christmas. Cheaper ones. OK? Ogg also gives a better 
reproduction than mp3. It just sounds better to me.

You can encode MP3 from CDA format, you just need the right tools. The 
plug-ins are available for most of the rippers on the disks you have 
and the KDE (KAudiocreator) app actually gives you a choice of Ogg or 
MP3. I just looked. Grip does as well as far as I know, just look in 
the config tab for encoder and decide which you like. I've used it 
both ways, works brilliantly. Hint, mine shows lame, bladeenc, a few 
others, mp3 and ogg.

Scrape yourself off the ceiling and actually *look* at the tools you 
have at hand kid, you can do this.

Charlie
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread John Richard Smith
Heather/Femme wrote:

OK I have here:

glame-0.6.4-6.mdk

gstreamer-lame-0.6.0-1.plf (I am not enamoured of plf stuff ... they
seem to fubar my *stable* system...dunno why. but bear with me pls)
notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf  notlame-3.93.1-2plf (a .1 release? whats that
mean? bugfix?..again plf)
notlame-mp3x-3.93.1-2.1plf  notlame-mp3x-3.93.1-2plf

out_lame-0.2.1-2plf

Phew!

K which of these do I want for ripping music from some CD's  making
them into Mp3's?  Ideas pls?  Helps?  I've never ripped music
before...but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?
Thx
Femme
 

Once you have lame installed ( check you don't already, by doing in a 
terminal,
rpm -qa | lame   and see what it says. I think you will find it already 
installed) install the attatched  bash script wav2mp3 somewhere the 
system can find it like /usr/bin,  or /usr/local/bin and follow the 
instructions in wav2mp3command file attatched.

This script has ripped and encoded to mp3 for me, not that I use it much 
, it's just to get my daughters .wav files on their CD's onto their mp3 
mobile players, so much more stable than those mobile CD players, or so 
they tell me. I only play CD's myself and don't store any music on my 
hard drive.

John

--
John Richard Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
===
WAV2MP3 COMMANDS
===

CD to directory sources of wav files



wav2mp3 *.wav
wav2mp3 bob\ dylan*




===

===
WAV2MP3 Install
===
 
Requires lame /usr/bin/lame

===


Copy wav2mp3 bash script to /usr/local/bin
give everyone permission ,   /usr/local/bin properties-x-boxes

chown root:root /usr/local/bin/wav2mp3



===

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# chown root:root /usr/local/bin/wav2mp3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cd /mnt/cdrom/dvd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd]# ls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd]#wav2mp3 *.wav

  WAV-2-MP3 conversion script
  ===

Enter full path to Output directory (Default=/root/tmp)
Press Enter for default. Answer:

... Converting *.wav
to /root/tmp/*.mp3
Could not find *.wav.

Done

Finished decoding file/s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dvd]#
===#!/bin/bash
# Simple Script to convert WAV to MP3 files
# Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/12/2002

QUALITY=192 #Quality of the mp3 files


if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
  echo Usage:  `basename $0` wav/wav's 12
  exit 1
fi

clear
echo   WAV-2-MP3 conversion script
  ===


echo -n Enter full path to Output directory (Default=$HOME/tmp)
Press Enter for default. Answer: 
read _answer


OUTPUT_DIR=$HOME/tmp
case $_answer in
/*)
OUTPUT_DIR=$_answer
;;
esac


# Check if output directory exists, else warn and exit

if [ ! -d $_answer ]; then
echo 
echo -e \033[1;31m-= Output directory does not exist! 
=-\033[m
exit 0
fi

echo 

# Convert mp3's to wav!
while [ -n $1 ]; do

wavname=$1

mp3name=$(echo ${wavname} | sed -e 's/.[Ww][Aa][Vv]/.mp3/g')

echo -e ... Converting \033[1;33m$wavname\033[m
to $OUTPUT_DIR/\033[1;32m$mp3name\033[m

# lame -b $QUALITY ${wavname} $OUTPUT_DIR/${mp3name}
lame -b $QUALITY --cbr -h ${wavname} $OUTPUT_DIR/${mp3name}


echo 
echo Done
echo 

shift;

done

echo Finished encoding file/s
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread RichardA
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:53:27 -0600, Heather/Femme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So lemme get this straight:
 
 you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I am
 still leery about using...)...
 
 That seems very odd if I'm right.
 
 FF 

No, you can rip to mp3. Presumably Mandrake don't include lame because
there are licensing issues.

Sounds like your best bet is get lame from plf and use grip.

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
Rio Karma: Has a 20GB capacity, it's an ethernet device, and plays Ogg and Flac

Miark

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:08:24 -0400, Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:05 pm, Miark wrote:
   Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
   player.
  
  They're comin'. I know of a few that'll be out within the month. But
  granted, if Femme is looking into encoding for a portable player, she's
  stuck with MP3.
 
 Is there a place to find out about these so called portable ogg vorbis 
 players?  I'm in the market and have been looking at the machines by iriver.  
 Supposedly they are going to be offering a firmware upgrade to provide vorbis 
 support, but I cannot find anything new on the status of this.
 -- 
 /g
 
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 a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 12 September 2003 02:53 am, Heather/Femme wrote:

  So lemme get this straight:

 you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I am
 still leery about using...)...

No, they are suggesting you use OGG instead of MP3 but you can use MP3 if you 
like.  I do myself, I know that OGG is better but if I want to send a file to 
someone, the only way I can be sure that they can use it is to use MP3.  
Also, If I want to play these in my standalone DVD player that supports MP3 
files, I can't use OGG.  

In Grip, you can go to the configure tab and tell it what encoder to use.  If 
you tell it to rip to .mp3, it will encode to mp3.  At least it does on my 
system.
-- 
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Software Test Engineer


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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 05:59, Miark wrote:
 Rio Karma: Has a 20GB capacity, it's an ethernet device, and plays Ogg and Flac
 
 Miark
 
Only trouble is  it's not AFAIK linux compatible for one will not pay
$399.00 for a player that only works with Win$ux


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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Heather/Femme wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:08:24 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:05 pm, Miark wrote:
   

Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
player.
   

They're comin'. I know of a few that'll be out within the month. But
granted, if Femme is looking into encoding for a portable player,
she's stuck with MP3.
 

Is there a place to find out about these so called portable ogg vorbis

players?  I'm in the market and have been looking at the machines by
iriver.  Supposedly they are going to be offering a firmware upgrade
to provide vorbis support, but I cannot find anything new on the
status of this.-- 
/g

Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside
a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
   

saw a review on IRiver ... IIRC its either going outta business OR just
got a bad bad review... I'll have to look to be sure though.
Rio  the iPod are the best.

and fwiw, ya I wanna put this stuff onto um... little things, looks like
a mini casette but its not... damnit... I hate being stoned..
DAT?

anyway Iwanna putit on that...so mp3 is my only option...

Flying Femme

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Miark
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 06:45:05 -0700, Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 05:59, Miark wrote:
  Rio Karma: Has a 20GB capacity, it's an ethernet device, and plays Ogg and Flac
  
  Miark
  
 Only trouble is  it's not AFAIK linux compatible for one will not pay
 $399.00 for a player that only works with Win$ux

True. Unlike the Nomad which is a USB plug 'n play filesystem, the Karma
needs specific software. I talked to the head of technical support at
Rio and he said they're looking at the possibility of making Linux
software for it, but there are no concrete plans at the moment. 

Miark

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:51:45 -0600
Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 
 If I can make you laugh with my lunacy in the condition you seem to be
 
 in I've had a good day. Too bad it started Saturday
 
 You must really need to get horizontal sweetheart. The apps I
 mentioned are NOT command line tools, they're GUI. You know, pointy
 and clicky???
 
 You were the one picking all us old farts earlier, remember? G
 
 Just kidding.
 
 C.

ummm ya... I finally peeled myself off the ceiling... ya I was
very very stoned... lol! sorry Charlie.

I'm gonna try taht stuff today or tommorow  Ty all for your help. 
Sorry if I was a PITA to anyone ... ugh did I really say that about
seniors? Damnit... can I plead heavy meds? Or take the 5th or something?

sigh

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:19:47 +0100
RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:53:27 -0600, Heather/Femme
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So lemme get this straight:
  
  you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I
  am still leery about using...)...
  
  That seems very odd if I'm right.
  
  FF 
 
 No, you can rip to mp3. Presumably Mandrake don't include lame because
 there are licensing issues.
 
 Sounds like your best bet is get lame from plf and use grip.
 
 Richard
 -- 
 Get up and turn I loose
 

ya thats the impression I got too.  Ty Richard.

Unstoned Femmey

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-12 Thread Charlie M.
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September 12, 2003 03:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
 ummm ya... I finally peeled myself off the ceiling... ya I
 was very very stoned... lol! sorry Charlie.

 I'm gonna try taht stuff today or tommorow  Ty all for your help.
 Sorry if I was a PITA to anyone ... ugh did I really say that about
 seniors? Damnit... can I plead heavy meds? Or take the 5th or
 something?

 sigh

 Grounded Femme

I don't think anyone was really offended, but I could be wrong. I think 
we all share the opinion that it's fun to pretend to be offended 'cause 
it's such good fun to watch you squirm. g

You can't take the fifth, it's against the rules!

But I'll share a quart with ya. LMAO

Have fun Femme.

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:00:05 +
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip 
 Once you have lame installed ( check you don't already, by doing in a 
 terminal,
 rpm -qa | lame   and see what it says. I think you will find it
 already installed) install the attatched  bash script wav2mp3
 somewhere the system can find it like /usr/bin,  or /usr/local/bin and
 follow the instructions in wav2mp3command file attatched.
 
 This script has ripped and encoded to mp3 for me, not that I use it
 much , it's just to get my daughters .wav files on their CD's onto
 their mp3 mobile players, so much more stable than those mobile CD
 players, or so they tell me. I only play CD's myself and don't store
 any music on my hard drive.
 
 John
 
Ty!  so just install lame  put this script into /usr/bin ... run Lame
and it does the rest is that it?

sorry I'm reaally new to this stuff so.. um forgive the idiotic
questions..

oh  btw I guess its not possible to rip 2 cd's @ once is it?  With 2
separate devices?  IE: I have a dvdrom  a cdwriter...can I rip cd's
from both of those all at once?  Saving me some time?  or is that
impossible?

Femme

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:03:25 -0400
Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 12 September 2003 02:53 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
   So lemme get this straight:
 
  you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I
  am still leery about using...)...
 
 No, they are suggesting you use OGG instead of MP3 but you can use MP3
 if you like.  I do myself, I know that OGG is better but if I want to
 send a file to someone, the only way I can be sure that they can use
 it is to use MP3.  Also, If I want to play these in my standalone DVD
 player that supports MP3 files, I can't use OGG.  
 
 In Grip, you can go to the configure tab and tell it what encoder to
 use.  If you tell it to rip to .mp3, it will encode to mp3.  At least
 it does on my system.
 -- 
 Bryan Phinney
 Software Test Engineer
 

Ty.  You're in the same boat I am then Bryan.  Shrugs I know I can use
ogg, but I would rather not as it isn't practical to me.  And in the
state I was in yesterday was getting massively confused by the
(seemingly) conflicted answers.  Yours is straight to the point  well
I'm not stoned now so I get it. :D

thx.  I have a minidisc player  wanna use that later... mp3 will work
on it but I doubt ogg would...so thats my reason for needing mp3.

ty ;)

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Heather/Femme
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:18:31 -0400
Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DAT?
 -- 
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Mini Disc

found its name...finally..after coming down. sigh

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 12 September 2003 05:51 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 gone

 Or take the 5th or something?

 sigh

 Grounded Femme

Femme:
In the USA, liquor is commonly sold by the fifth. (Before metrification, 
Canadians referred to the same size bottle as a 26er). In view of the other 
chemicals that you've been taking, I'd advise against it. YMMV.
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from Cd's

2003-09-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 14:51, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:51:45 -0600
 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  
  If I can make you laugh with my lunacy in the condition you seem to be
  
  in I've had a good day. Too bad it started Saturday
  
  You must really need to get horizontal sweetheart. The apps I
  mentioned are NOT command line tools, they're GUI. You know, pointy
  and clicky???
  
  You were the one picking all us old farts earlier, remember? G
  
  Just kidding.
  
  C.
 
 ummm ya... I finally peeled myself off the ceiling... ya I was
 very very stoned... lol! sorry Charlie.
 
 I'm gonna try taht stuff today or tommorow  Ty all for your help. 
 Sorry if I was a PITA to anyone ... ugh did I really say that about
 seniors? Damnit... can I plead heavy meds? Or take the 5th or something?
 
 sigh
 
 Grounded Femme
sawarright love take the fifth but next time use a mixer too ;-
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-12 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 15:24, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:03:25 -0400
 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Friday 12 September 2003 02:53 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
  
So lemme get this straight:
  
   you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I
   am still leery about using...)...
  
  No, they are suggesting you use OGG instead of MP3 but you can use MP3
  if you like.  I do myself, I know that OGG is better but if I want to
  send a file to someone, the only way I can be sure that they can use
  it is to use MP3.  Also, If I want to play these in my standalone DVD
  player that supports MP3 files, I can't use OGG.  
  
  In Grip, you can go to the configure tab and tell it what encoder to
  use.  If you tell it to rip to .mp3, it will encode to mp3.  At least
  it does on my system.
  -- 
  Bryan Phinney
  Software Test Engineer
  
 
 Ty.  You're in the same boat I am then Bryan.  Shrugs I know I can use
 ogg, but I would rather not as it isn't practical to me.  And in the
 state I was in yesterday was getting massively confused by the
 (seemingly) conflicted answers.  Yours is straight to the point  well
 I'm not stoned now so I get it. :D
 
 thx.  I have a minidisc player  wanna use that later... mp3 will work
 on it but I doubt ogg would...so thats my reason for needing mp3.
 
 ty ;)
 
 Femme
If you get the minidisc player to work I would love to see a How2 on it.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 11 September 2003 05:02 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 K which of these do I want for ripping music from some CD's  making
 them into Mp3's?  Ideas pls?  Helps?  I've never ripped music
 before...but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
 encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?

 Thx
 Femme

Why not just use Grips default setting, i.e., cdparanoia (rip) - oggenc 
(encode)? It works great here, out of the box with all 3 comps.

Just a thought. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:41:40 -0400
Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 September 2003 05:02 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  K which of these do I want for ripping music from some CD's  making
  them into Mp3's?  Ideas pls?  Helps?  I've never ripped music
  before...but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
  encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?
 
  Thx
  Femme
 
 Why not just use Grips default setting, i.e., cdparanoia (rip) -
 oggenc (encode)? It works great here, out of the box with all 3
 comps.
 
 Just a thought. :-)
 
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Cause LAME works better .. least it does in the windows world... shrugs.

I have an ear for music and I've found alot of other programs bork the
sound enough its annoying.  Hisses, crackles, whines, etc.

So do I understand correctly that LAME for linux isn't a standalone
program like it is for windows?

Femmers

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 18:02, Heather/Femme wrote:
 OK I have here:
 
 glame-0.6.4-6.mdk
 
 gstreamer-lame-0.6.0-1.plf (I am not enamoured of plf stuff ... they
 seem to fubar my *stable* system...dunno why. but bear with me pls)
 
 notlame-3.93.1-2.1plf  notlame-3.93.1-2plf (a .1 release? whats that
 mean? bugfix?..again plf)
 
 notlame-mp3x-3.93.1-2.1plf  notlame-mp3x-3.93.1-2plf
 
 out_lame-0.2.1-2plf
 
 Phew!
 
 K which of these do I want for ripping music from some CD's  making
 them into Mp3's?  Ideas pls?  Helps?  I've never ripped music
 before...but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
 encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?
 
 Thx
 Femme
 
Ma belle
If I were you, I'd install grip and the package vorbis-tools-1.0-2mdk.
Ogg files are much better than mp3 ones. I think the gurus out there can
confirm that.

Also,the command line ogg player is very easy to use. You can even play
a whole directory with the command

ogg123 /yourfiles/youfavouritesingerfolder/





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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 11 September 2003 06:12 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 Cause LAME works better .. least it does in the windows world... shrugs.

Really? Can't tell a difference myself - but I'm not a musician. Sounds awful 
good here.

 I have an ear for music and I've found alot of other programs bork the
 sound enough its annoying.  Hisses, crackles, whines, etc.

Never had that with Grip.

 So do I understand correctly that LAME for linux isn't a standalone
 program like it is for windows?

 Femmers

Don't have Windoze :-)

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Miark
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:02:12 -0600, Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
 encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?

Sound is in a world all its own, independent of OSes. And in the sound
world Ogg is king--end of story. Ogg files are fully supported in
WinAmp, and encoders are freely available in the doze world. They may
not be popular, but it's still best.

Check out the Ogg Vorbis win32 encoder, which you can get from
download.com. The only vote against it is because the encoding process
is slow.

As for ripping in Linux, use Grip to make Ogg files. 

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Aron Smith
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 14:41, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Thursday 11 September 2003 05:02 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 
  K which of these do I want for ripping music from some CD's  making
  them into Mp3's?  Ideas pls?  Helps?  I've never ripped music
  before...but I know LAME *in the windows world* is the best
  encoder/ripper/decoder out there.  Is this true for linux?
 
  Thx
  Femme
 
 Why not just use Grips default setting, i.e., cdparanoia (rip) - oggenc 
 (encode)? It works great here, out of the box with all 3 comps.
 
 Just a thought. :-)
Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Miark
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:54:50 -0700, Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
 player.

They're comin'. I know of a few that'll be out within the month. But
granted, if Femme is looking into encoding for a portable player, she's
stuck with MP3.

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:54 pm, Aron Smith wrote:

 Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
 player.

Sorry, hadn't thought of that end of it. Don't own one. Still, you could rip 
and encode them with Grip into ogg, then use other software to convert them 
to mp3.

I know thats round about, and it would be better for someone who needed it to 
convert straight to mp3 in the first place.

I didn't know that was the requirement they were looking for - hadn't seen it 
mentioned in this thread. I just thought they wanted to get it onto their 
hard drives. 

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Heather/Femme
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:13:22 -0300
Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

WHAP! 
 Ma belle
 If I were you, I'd install grip and the package vorbis-tools-1.0-2mdk.
 Ogg files are much better than mp3 ones. I think the gurus out there
 can confirm that.
 
 Also,the command line ogg player is very easy to use. You can even
 play a whole directory with the command
 
 ogg123 /yourfiles/youfavouritesingerfolder/
 
 
 
but is that compatible with windows Winamp  stuff?  Ogg is not standard
afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
or am I missing something...?

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 but is that compatible with windows Winamp  stuff?  Ogg is not standard
 afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
 or am I missing something...?

 Space Lieutenant Femme

Ogg is a pretty widely accepted/recognized standard. I send Oggs to my Windows 
owning/Winamp using friends all the time. They don't have problems with it, 
AFAIK.

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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:05 pm, Miark wrote:
  Fine  for playing on your 'puter but don't know of a portable Ogg
  player.
 
 They're comin'. I know of a few that'll be out within the month. But
 granted, if Femme is looking into encoding for a portable player, she's
 stuck with MP3.

Is there a place to find out about these so called portable ogg vorbis 
players?  I'm in the market and have been looking at the machines by iriver.  
Supposedly they are going to be offering a firmware upgrade to provide vorbis 
support, but I cannot find anything new on the status of this.
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Re: [newbie] Using LAME for ripping audio from CD's

2003-09-11 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:13:22 -0300
 Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 WHAP! 
  Ma belle
  If I were you, I'd install grip and the package vorbis-tools-1.0-2mdk.
  Ogg files are much better than mp3 ones. I think the gurus out there
  can confirm that.
  
  Also,the command line ogg player is very easy to use. You can even
  play a whole directory with the command
  
  ogg123 /yourfiles/youfavouritesingerfolder/
  
  
  
 but is that compatible with windows Winamp  stuff?  Ogg is not standard
 afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
 or am I missing something...?
 
WInamp supports ogg format ootb now.
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