[newbie] window managers run command
hi, i was giving a other window managers a second look (as i am using Xtart its easy to switch WM's) especially blackbox, ICEwm and fluxbox. the only thing that im missing is the 'Run' command. i always try to run apps (especially GUI ones) from the run dialog so they dont get closed when i terminate the terminal that they sprung from. another question is where do i configure these WMs? i have to set the mouse accelration and threshold for each one and one mouse setting in one seem to differ with settings from other WMs. i hope to give them their due but since upgrading to the xfce cooker rpm, xfce has been sweeter to handle and with no gtk corruptions. if i can only reduce the size of the title bar so i can reclaim a little bit more of my precious desktop real estate (that and the fact that my menus lost their default icons) ... ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 2305 B West Tower, Philippines Stocks Exchange Center, Exchange Road, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] window managers
Hi, this is a very newbie like question but I just installed Mandrake 7.2 and can't find where I can switch window managers. I wan't to run Window Maker. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Jim
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I find the best way it to boot mandrake into a graphical login, which allows you to choose window managers easily and also allows u to revert back to a console login if required Rgds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Skoff Sent: 11 February 2001 17:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] window managers Hi, this is a very newbie like question but I just installed Mandrake 7.2 and can't find where I can switch window managers. I wan't to run Window Maker. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Jim
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Tanggal 11 Feb 2001, dari Jim Skoff : Hi, this is a very newbie like question but I just installed Mandrake 7.2 and can't find where I can switch window managers. I wan't to run Window Maker. Can anyone help? type this at your console: echo "wmaker" ~/.xinitrc next time if you want to go back to KDE, simply remove the file: rm ~/.xinitrc or make a file called "wmaker" with this 3 lines: #!/bin/bash echo "wmaker" ~/.xinitrc; startx save it, and do: chmod +x wmaker to execute it: ./wmaker you can make this file as many as you like. another example: #!/bin/bash echo "gkrellm " ~/.xinitrc; echo "xterm -e pine " ~/.xinitrc; echo "blackbox" ~/.xinitrc; startx Thanks in advance, Jim -- Ribbo "Oooo. Don'tcha just hate it when that happens." -- Sarge, Quake 3 Arena
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Jim, One thing that threw me for a loop was that when I booted up the computer the first time it didn't send me to a login screen it just dumped me into KDE. Before I could switch window managers I had to logout of KDE. After I did that it gave me the expected login screen where I could choose what user I wanted to login as and which window manager I wanted to use. Try logging out of KDE, not shutting down, and see if it doesn't send you to the graphical login screen where you can pick which window manager you want to use. Good luck, Ian K. Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scuba Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] window managers I find the best way it to boot mandrake into a graphical login, which allows you to choose window managers easily and also allows u to revert back to a console login if required Rgds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Skoff Sent: 11 February 2001 17:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] window managers Hi, this is a very newbie like question but I just installed Mandrake 7.2 and can't find where I can switch window managers. I wan't to run Window Maker. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Jim
[newbie] Window Managers
One last question for the day. :) In Mandrake, how do you configure what the default Window Manager is? When I first start X (and get the graphical logon), if I leave the window manager as "default" then I get Gnome w/Enlightenment. I would like to change this so that my default is just Enlightenment. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks... -Necro
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Necrotica wrote: One last question for the day. :) In Mandrake, how do you configure what the default Window Manager is? When I first start X (and get the graphical logon), if I leave the window manager as "default" then I get Gnome w/Enlightenment. I would like to change this so that my default is just Enlightenment. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks... -Necro use desktopcfg (which is located at /usr/bin/desktopcfg). Its a great tool to change window manager Sujeevan
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Thanks Sujeevan. It works great, however Enlightenment isn't listed as one of the window managers. Rats... -Necro On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, you wrote: Necrotica wrote: One last question for the day. :) In Mandrake, how do you configure what the default Window Manager is? When I first start X (and get the graphical logon), if I leave the window manager as "default" then I get Gnome w/Enlightenment. I would like to change this so that my default is just Enlightenment. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks... -Necro use desktopcfg (which is located at /usr/bin/desktopcfg). Its a great tool to change window manager Sujeevan
Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm
You'll also need to use KDE's "kdmconfig" tool to add it it to the drop-down box. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Richard Yevchak wrote: I download blackbox and I was wondering how to add it to the list of wm's I am presented with when booting into run level 5. From what I can tell xdm is run at start up. I tried adding it to the the Xsessions file in /etc/X11/xdm but that didn't work.
Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, you wrote: You'll also need to use KDE's "kdmconfig" tool to add it it to the drop-down box. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Richard Yevchak wrote: I download blackbox and I was wondering how to add it to the list of wm's I am presented with when booting into run level 5. From what I can tell xdm is run at start up. I tried adding it to the the Xsessions file in /etc/X11/xdm but that didn't work. Heres how I did it edit /usr/sbin/fndSession so the XDM menu includes your new WM when it rebuilds with each boot (or disable it) then edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession so XDM knows what to do with the item when you select it. Hope that helps Andrew
Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm
Since I first posted I've done some more checking after finding out about kdm. "/usr/share/config/kdmrc" appears to be the file in question. I added blackbox to the line containing session types. It appears to keep the changes. Richard On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta I am haveing the same problem I use the config tool on kde , but after I make the changes save and logout nad back in the drop down DOES NOT show the new option. also in the config tool, where do you place the commands to exe the new menu item? IE: I want to add XFCE to the drop down, I went into the config and added the item XDFCE and saved, but where do I place the exec xfce commands better yet, screw the darn gui config ;-P what files need to be modified to add options? I tried the /etc/X11/xdm/ (think it was xserver or xclients or something like that) but no help seeing init 5 uses prefdm which is linked to kdm.. where ar ethe kdm config files Regards, Ron Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/01/99 09:07:32 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm You'll also need to use KDE's "kdmconfig" tool to add it it to the drop-down box. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Richard Yevchak wrote: I download blackbox and I was wondering how to add it to the list of wm's I am presented with when booting into run level 5. From what I can tell xdm is run at start up. I tried adding it to the the Xsessions file in /etc/X11/xdm but that didn't work.
Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm
From: Ronald A. Yacketta Thats the ticket!! thanks alot! Richard Yevchak [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/01/99 04:37:29 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm Since I first posted I've done some more checking after finding out about kdm. "/usr/share/config/kdmrc" appears to be the file in question. I added blackbox to the line containing session types. It appears to keep the changes. Richard On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta I am haveing the same problem I use the config tool on kde , but after I make the changes save and logout nad back in the drop down DOES NOT show the new option. also in the config tool, where do you place the commands to exe the new menu item? IE: I want to add XFCE to the drop down, I went into the config and added the item XDFCE and saved, but where do I place the exec xfce commands better yet, screw the darn gui config ;-P what files need to be modified to add options? I tried the /etc/X11/xdm/ (think it was xserver or xclients or something like that) but no help seeing init 5 uses prefdm which is linked to kdm.. where ar ethe kdm config files Regards, Ron Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/01/99 09:07:32 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Window Managers and xdm You'll also need to use KDE's "kdmconfig" tool to add it it to the drop-down box. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Richard Yevchak wrote: I download blackbox and I was wondering how to add it to the list of wm's I am presented with when booting into run level 5. From what I can tell xdm is run at start up. I tried adding it to the the Xsessions file in /etc/X11/xdm but that didn't work.
[newbie] Window Managers and xdm
I download blackbox and I was wondering how to add it to the list of wm's I am presented with when booting into run level 5. From what I can tell xdm is run at start up. I tried adding it to the the Xsessions file in /etc/X11/xdm but that didn't work. Richard
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From: Ronald A. Yacketta Yes, I am using thier software, but the problem appears to be with Linux. I have been decoding tcpdump -i eth1 and notice that the winblows box is sending a tone of messages to linux and awaiting a response but gets none. John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/27/99 03:45:17 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] window managers On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta Hello ALL!! here is my little problem. I run exceed from a winblows pc at work. I would like to xport the KDE window and all its fun stuff to the winblows box. I tried using DMCP but I never get a login prompt after I select the server to manage. any ideas? Ask 'em at www.hummingbird.com. :-) That's their software you're talking about, I think... :-) John
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta Yes, I am using thier software, but the problem appears to be with Linux. I have been decoding tcpdump -i eth1 and notice that the winblows box is sending a tone of messages to linux and awaiting a response but gets none. Ok...I think you have to tell the Linux box to "export" the display to a particular IP address Try asking in the "expert" list. The list is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" OR, check the list archive for "export" and "display." John
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta Yes, I am using thier software, but the problem appears to be with Linux. I have been decoding tcpdump -i eth1 and notice that the winblows box is sending a tone of messages to linux and awaiting a response but gets none. Are you running an XDMCP server? kdm, gdm, or xdm?
[newbie] window managers
From: Ronald A. Yacketta Hello ALL!! here is my little problem. I run exceed from a winblows pc at work. I would like to xport the KDE window and all its fun stuff to the winblows box. I tried using DMCP but I never get a login prompt after I select the server to manage. any ideas?
Re: [newbie] window managers
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, you wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta Hello ALL!! here is my little problem. I run exceed from a winblows pc at work. I would like to xport the KDE window and all its fun stuff to the winblows box. I tried using DMCP but I never get a login prompt after I select the server to manage. any ideas? Ask 'em at www.hummingbird.com. :-) That's their software you're talking about, I think... :-) John
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darkknight wrote: It can be done in two ways, which works best for you depends on how you start Xwindows. If you have Linux set up to boot to Xwindows (init level 5) then you should be seeing a screen with an dialog box for entering your username and password, just below the password box on the left is a box with KDE in it and an arrow to it's right, click on the arrow and the window expands to show many other choices, one is gnome which uses Enlightenment as it's default window manager (this is what I use, I love Enlightenment and gnome) If you boot to text mode, then after signing in and giviing your password at the prompt type: switchdesk then choose gnome as your desktop. Then type startx and gnome should startup with Enlightenment as the window manager. Thanks for the reply but I don't have that option if I use the GUI boot option. I suppose its because I'm using 5.3 and I've heard that option is standard with 6.0. But I did manage to find a simple program called Start to switch between desktops. But I have to admit, I haven't gone back to KDE :) -- Jeremy Mann http://manndesigns.dynip.com icq://21081443 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Window managers
Hello, I want to use other window managers like AfterStep and Enlightenment. How do I change from KDE? I've looked at all the configuration screens, but where do I tell it I want AfterStep instead of KDE? -- Jeremy Mann http://manndesigns.dynip.com icq://21081443 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, J Mann wrote: Hello, I want to use other window managers like AfterStep and Enlightenment. How do I change from KDE? I've looked at all the configuration screens, but where do I tell it I want AfterStep instead of KDE? desktopcfg LLaP bero
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Axalon wrote: Ok how about, /usr/sbin/desktopcfg. Just kidding, desktopcfg is on your cdrom as Mandrake/RPMS/desktopcfg-1.1.0-2mdk.i586.rpm Well its not on my CDROM. But I did find another one that worked. Once I ran the program, Afterstep launched great. But now how do I get back to KDE? When I select KDE from the menu, its says KDE not found. So I doubled checked the file, and its there. /usr/X11R6/bin/kde I have Afterstep launching from /usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep. So what gives? Jeremy
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, J Mann wrote: Axalon wrote: Ok how about, /usr/sbin/desktopcfg. Just kidding, desktopcfg is on your cdrom as Mandrake/RPMS/desktopcfg-1.1.0-2mdk.i586.rpm Sorry about that didn't realize you weren't running venus. Well its not on my CDROM. But I did find another one that worked. Once I ran the program, Afterstep launched great. But now how do I get back to KDE? When I select KDE from the menu, its says KDE not found. So I doubled checked the file, and its there. Not sure off hand what the util you did use was, but if need be you can always give it "a slap in the face" and manualy edit your (~/.xinitrc || ~/.Xclients) startup files. /usr/X11R6/bin/kde This could be the source of the problem, is this a link, a script, or a binary? KDE usualy starts with a script file "startkde" which starts all the seperate pieces. this script will be located in either a) /opt/kde/startkde b) /usr/bin/startkde depending on your Mandrake version. if /usr/X11R6/bin/kde is a link, is should most likely point to the startkde script if /usr/X11R6/bin/kde is a script, make sure it's calling startkde from the correct location if it's a binary exec rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/bin/kde and let me know what it says I have Afterstep launching from /usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep. So what gives? Jeremy
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Axalon wrote: Not sure off hand what the util you did use was, but if need be you can always give it "a slap in the face" and manualy edit your (~/.xinitrc || ~/.Xclients) startup files. /usr/X11R6/bin/kde I checked that too, but the program I used (called Start) didn't make a backup of the old one ;( bo... This could be the source of the problem, is this a link, a script, or a binary? KDE usualy starts with a script file "startkde" which starts all the seperate pieces. this script will be located in either a) /opt/kde/startkde b) /usr/bin/startkde depending on your Mandrake version. Being the newbie that I am, I figured KDE would start how Afterstep does with the /usr/X11R6/bin/kde command. But I will try the 'startkde'. I'm still experimenting with Afterstep and I think I like it more and more everytime I use it. Jeremy
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On Mon, 05 Jul 1999, J Mann wrote: Hello, I want to use other window managers like AfterStep and Enlightenment. How do I change from KDE? I've looked at all the configuration screens, but where do I tell it I want AfterStep instead of KDE? -- Jeremy Mann http://manndesigns.dynip.com icq://21081443 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It can be done in two ways, which works best for you depends on how you start Xwindows. If you have Linux set up to boot to Xwindows (init level 5) then you should be seeing a screen with an dialog box for entering your username and password, just below the password box on the left is a box with KDE in it and an arrow to it's right, click on the arrow and the window expands to show many other choices, one is gnome which uses Enlightenment as it's default window manager (this is what I use, I love Enlightenment and gnome) If you boot to text mode, then after signing in and giviing your password at the prompt type: switchdesk then choose gnome as your desktop. Then type startx and gnome should startup with Enlightenment as the window manager. That whould be the easyest way...you can also write up some config files if you know what you are doing, but that is really above my level of knowledge so I can't help you on that part. John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
