Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread Richard Urwin
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400

 JoeHill wrote:
  Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
  biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.

 I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
 stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
 tests.

The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up, 
and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that 
it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)

This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though) 
http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html

I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.

  Mine's 136 :-D

hmm... 136D
I hope that's metric.


 Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
 stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
 question tests :-)

Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked 
in). It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:20 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
  On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
 
  JoeHill wrote:
   Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
   biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
 
  I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
  stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
  12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
  tests.

 The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up,
 and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that
 it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)

 This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
 http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html

 I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.

   Mine's 136 :-D

 hmm... 136D
 I hope that's metric.

  Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
  stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
  question tests :-)

 Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked
 in).

has it ever occuored to your mensa group, that if you are smart enough to be 
in Mensa, you rerally ought to be smart enough to consider anything eliteist 
to be morally wrong?
 It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show. 

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 05:20 pm, et wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 April 2004 01:20 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
   On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
  
   JoeHill wrote:
Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
  
   I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
   stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all
   12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
   tests.
 
  The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave up,
  and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to realise that
  it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)
 
  This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
  http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html
 
  I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.
 
Mine's 136 :-D
 
  hmm... 136D
  I hope that's metric.
 
   Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
   stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
   question tests :-)
 
  Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I squeeked
  in).

 has it ever occurred to your Mensa group, that if you are smart enough to
 be in Mensa, you really ought to be smart enough to consider anything
 elitist to be morally wrong?


and it occurs to me if I am stupid enough to post, shouldn't I be at least 
bright enough to use the speell checker

  It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 12:20, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 Apr 2004 7:44 am, Job Evers wrote:
  On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
 
  JoeHill wrote:
   Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and
   socio-economically biased, and not necessarily an indication of
   true intelligence.
 
  I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12
  stupid questions (after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get
  all 12 right :-)) to the really long super hard pattern recognition
  tests.

 The one I liked the most just kept asking questions until you gave
 up, and then reported your IQ based on how long it took you to
 realise that it wasn't going to stop. (Sorry, I don't have a link.)

 This one's a bit of fun (doesn't measure IQ though)
 http://www.soronlin.org.uk/geekquiz.html

 I learnt a lot of Javascript doing it too.

   Mine's 136 :-D

 hmm... 136D
 I hope that's metric.

  Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some
  stupid british test (cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12
  question tests :-)

 Mine's 148 = 2 standard deviations, as measured by Mensa. (ie I
 squeeked in). It's 110 as measured by a stupid British TV show.
geez I thought TV lowered IQ by at least 50.
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 16:17:24 +1000
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

  you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)
 
 Oy - ya better be nice to JoeHill mate...
 SINGLE.

...just hit me, a double-digit IQ is nothing to be proud of, means yer *below*
average.

Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically biased, and
not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.

Mine's 136 :-D

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 05 April 2004 12:23 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 16:17:24 +1000

 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:
   you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux?
   ;-)
 
  Oy - ya better be nice to JoeHill mate...
  SINGLE.

 ...just hit me, a double-digit IQ is nothing to be proud of, means yer
 *below* average.

 Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically biased,
 and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.

 Mine's 136 :-D
I wondered how long it would take to parse it ;-D


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 05 April 2004 03:23 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 16:17:24 +1000

 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:
   you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux?
   ;-)
 
  Oy - ya better be nice to JoeHill mate...
  SINGLE.

 ...just hit me, a double-digit IQ is nothing to be proud of, means yer
 *below* average.

 Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically biased,
 and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.

 Mine's 136 :-D

I assume that is in millimeters and not inches.
(Sorry Joe, but it seems to be International Pick on a Canadian Day, and 
you're It.)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 10:44, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

  Mine's 136 :-D
 
 I assume that is in millimeters and not inches.
 (Sorry Joe, but it seems to be International Pick on a Canadian Day, and 
 you're It.)
 
 -- cmg

Bloody beat me to the punch, Grigs - I'll have to drink more coffee.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Lanman
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 10:44, Carroll Grigsby wrote:


Mine's 136 :-D
I assume that is in millimeters and not inches.
(Sorry Joe, but it seems to be International Pick on a Canadian Day, and 
you're It.)

-- cmg


Bloody beat me to the punch, Grigs - I'll have to drink more coffee.

stephen kuhn - owner


Yeah, I think certain men would be very happy about the switch to metric 
from imperial. After all, 4 inches would become 120 !! Just ask Darl 
McBride or Bill Gates ! They'd love having genitalia as large as their 
ego's !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 16:23, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 16:17:24 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:
 
   you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)
  
  Oy - ya better be nice to JoeHill mate...
  SINGLE.
 
 ...just hit me, a double-digit IQ is nothing to be proud of, means yer *below*
 average.
 
 Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically biased, and
 not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
 

Right !
I don't know if I have a double-digit IQ, but I do have LI - linguistic
intelligence.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-05 Thread Job Evers
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:23:38 -0400
JoeHill wrote:

 
 Anyhow, IQ tests are unreliable, culturally and socio-economically
 biased, and not necessarily an indication of true intelligence.
 

I especially love the 'IQ tests' online.  They range from answer 12 stupid questions 
(after a couple of tries its pretty easy to get all 12 right :-)) to the really long 
super hard pattern recognition tests.

 Mine's 136 :-D
 

Never taken a real one.  I've scored anywhere between 110 on some stupid british test 
(cultural bias) to 180 on one of those 12 question tests :-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
   On Friday 02 April 2004 08:48 am, Ronald wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:
 On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
  Hello Bryan,
 
  Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
 
  BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing
   the same thing as you are; formatting the drive for
   FAT32 and installing 98 again. After all, there's alot
   of nostalgia involved with Windows.
 
  BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
 
  How about cp/m?

 Do it in Hex
   
from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia
  
   still got my old KIM-1 ;-)

 It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)

  And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
  please) Aron Smith!
  -- cmg

Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got 256 
bytes of (static) memory.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Lanman
Richard Urwin wrote:
On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:

On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:

On Friday 02 April 2004 08:48 am, Ronald wrote:

Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:

On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:

Hello Bryan,

Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing
the same thing as you are; formatting the drive for
FAT32 and installing 98 again. After all, there's alot
of nostalgia involved with Windows.
BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

How about cp/m?
Do it in Hex
from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia
still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)


And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
please) Aron Smith!
-- cmg


Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got 256 
bytes of (static) memory.
WoW! You ARE old! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 15:35, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
  I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
  you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
  all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
 
 Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

I've got a dos box here, my friend; I still do memory management with
the config.sys and autoexec.bat to keep in practice.  I enjoy it.

One reason I do keep it is so that I can try to find the latest sound
hardware that's also backwardly compatible.  The challenge is to try to
keep everything as up to date as possible while at the same time not
breaking any of the old dos games I used to play.  Case in point is
Elder Scrolls Arena, the first edition (Daggerfall was next, and then
Morrowind).  Here is a game that requires a contiguous 620k dos
conventional memory area because of a memory leak that crashes it after
about 5 hours or so.  Daggerfall, another dos game, has a similar
problem.  Both games need contiguous areas of conventional memory in
order to work at maximum.

This requires that all dos drivers be loaded high, if possible.  I found
out the hard way that in recent years, the behavior of the upper memory
area on new mobos has changed.  With some mobos it is difficult to make
efficient use of the upper memory area for loading dos device drivers.

Some sound cards cannot be used unless they are at particular interrupts
and use specific DMA channels.  This is not a functional problem with
the sound cards, it is a problem with the flexibility and adaptability
of old dos games.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 17:08, rikona wrote:
 Hello Bryan,
 
 Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
 
 BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
  I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
  you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
  all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
 
 BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
 
 How about cp/m?

Better yet, go back to the days of Captain Crunch and use assembler to
do your own OS.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 03 April 2004 05:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
On Friday 02 April 2004 08:48 am, Ronald wrote:
 Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:
  On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
   Hello Bryan,
  
   Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
  
   BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing
the same thing as you are; formatting the drive for
FAT32 and installing 98 again. After all, there's alot
of nostalgia involved with Windows.
  
   BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
  
   How about cp/m?
 
  Do it in Hex

 from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia
   
still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
 
  It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)
 
   And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
   please) Aron Smith!
   -- cmg

 Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got 256
 bytes of (static) memory.
I walked around with a TI logo burned on my thumb from trying to reseat one of 
thos chips ...those suckers ran hot


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
   On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:

 whack

still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
 
  It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)
 
   And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
   please) Aron Smith!
   -- cmg

 Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got 256
 bytes of (static) memory.

Richard:
According to Google, the KIM-1 came out in 1976, two years prior to the MK14, 
so the UPA is still Aron's pending an appeal based on date of acquisition.
-- cmg



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:02 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
   On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 
  whack
 
 still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
  
   It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)
  
And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
please) Aron Smith!
-- cmg
 
  Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got 256
  bytes of (static) memory.

 Richard:
 According to Google, the KIM-1 came out in 1976, two years prior to the
 MK14, so the UPA is still Aron's pending an appeal based on date of
 acquisition. -- cmg
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 5:02 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
   On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
 
  whack
 
 still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
  
   It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)
  
And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
please) Aron Smith!
-- cmg
 
  Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got
  256 bytes of (static) memory.

 Richard:
 According to Google, the KIM-1 came out in 1976, two years prior to
 the MK14, so the UPA is still Aron's pending an appeal based on date
 of acquisition. -- cmg

I found a date of 1977, which accords with my memory better than 1978, 
but I couldn't claim 1976 with any honesty.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 03 April 2004 05:38 pm, Richard Urwin wrote:
 On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 5:02 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
  On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:35 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
   On Saturday 03 Apr 2004 6:21 am, Aron Smith wrote:
On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  
   whack
  
  still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
   
It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)
   
 And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare,
 please) Aron Smith!
 -- cmg
  
   Not so fast. I still have my Science of Cambridge MK14. It's got
   256 bytes of (static) memory.
 
  Richard:
  According to Google, the KIM-1 came out in 1976, two years prior to
  the MK14, so the UPA is still Aron's pending an appeal based on date
  of acquisition. -- cmg

 I found a date of 1977, which accords with my memory better than 1978,
 but I couldn't claim 1976 with any honesty.

As noted earlier, my dates were based on quick googles for KIM-1 and MK14. 
Since it is commonly known that not everything on the web is absolutely dead 
accurate, I'd say that we call it even. Aron will be the North American 
Ultimate Packrat and Richard will be the European Ultimate Packrat. (Drum 
roll and fanfare.)

I was somewhat astounded to get 73,500 hits on KIM-1, and 13,500 on MK14, 
since their heyday was long before the web came on the scene.

My first computer was an Exidy Sorcerer (circa 1978) -- Z80, 16 Kb RAM, 
cassette I/O, Microsoft Basic, word processor, development package. A year or 
two later, I added another 16 Kb at a cost of $140. It got tossed about 10 
years ago when my wife began to enforce her rule that all of my really neat 
stuff had to be kept in this one (very crowded) room. Those of you who have 
suffered similar losses can get a glimpse of your first loves here:
http://www.tonh.net/museum/homecomputers.html

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread John Montgomery
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 20:40:23 -0500
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 My first computer was an Exidy Sorcerer (circa 1978) -- Z80, 16 Kb RAM, 
 cassette I/O, Microsoft Basic, word processor, development package. A year or 
 two later, I added another 16 Kb at a cost of $140. It got tossed about 10 
 years ago when my wife began to enforce her rule that all of my really neat 
 stuff had to be kept in this one (very crowded) room. Those of you who have 
 suffered similar losses can get a glimpse of your first loves here:
 http://www.tonh.net/museum/homecomputers.html
 
 -- cmg
 
http://www.tonh.net/museum/pdp8.html
 
Aah, a PDP 8.  That was my first hands on computer (1969) as opposed to handing in 
jobs to the IBM Big Iron. 
Actually the photo is of a PDP 8i, whereas ours was  an 8e which should be a bit 
older.  You set that row of rocker switches in octal in order to boot it. The basic 
model had 4 k memory but ours was jazzed up with an extra 4k.  Iron core memory and 
programs stored on punched paper tapes.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:52:07 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing
 as you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again. 
 After all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

Why stop there? With DOS 6.22, combined with 256 megabytes of EMS
memory, you can build some really killer sized spreadsheets with Lotus
123.

Imagine a 256+ megabyte RAM disk running 3.1 all in RAM sometime :).

Actually, now I have 768 - just popped in another stick of 512 this
afternoon. 


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:08:17 -0500
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I could do that. I've still got an old cp/m machine here, but I tossed
 the terminal (ADM3A) out a while back. I guess I could teach this box
 to handle that job...

This would be a definite twist. A modern system with big gobs of memory
used as a dumb terminal to connect to a CP/M machine. :)

Doesn't Bochs have CP/M support? (Bochs is an emulator).

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-03 Thread rikona
Hello Carroll,

Saturday, April 3, 2004, 5:40:23 PM, you wrote:

  Richard:  According to Google, the KIM-1 came out in 1976, two
 years prior to  the MK14, so the UPA is still Aron's pending an
 appeal based on date  of acquisition. -- cmg

 I found a date of 1977, which accords with my memory better than 1978,
 but I couldn't claim 1976 with any honesty.

CG As noted earlier, my dates were based on quick googles for KIM-1 and MK14. 
CG Since it is commonly known that not everything on the web is absolutely dead 
CG accurate, I'd say that we call it even. Aron will be the North American 
CG Ultimate Packrat and Richard will be the European Ultimate Packrat. (Drum 
CG roll and fanfare.)

I think CP/M might predate these by a few years. The first versions
were diskless, and were taken from PL/M which ran on an IBM mainframe,
I believe. I think the very first code in this development ran on a
4004 or 8008, predating even the 8080. About 1971-73 I think. Might
check a bit more before the fanfare. :-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:58:45 -0500
Marv Boyes disseminated the following:

 Good on you. See to it that you erase this list from your address book, 
 as well.

ROFL! How does that fish hook feel in your cheek, Marv?

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:58:45 -0500
Marv Boyes disseminated the following:

Good on you. See to it that you erase this list from your address book, 
as well.


ROFL! How does that fish hook feel in your cheek, Marv?


Well, nice to know I wasn't the only one taken in on this one!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Fajar Priyanto
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On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:39 pm, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:08, Lanman wrote:
  Josenildo Marques wrote:
   I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
   come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience
   is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so
   much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the
   same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
  You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first
  place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had
  with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back.
  Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.
 
  We'll be seeing you soon enough.
 
  Lanman

 Lanman ___ April Fool !!

Geez Jose,
You've almost made me to consider windows back!
Stop that!! :))

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 08:09, et wrote:
 note to self (cc. Aron) ...
 don't feed the trolls

Pity you have to bring this up again and pity you yourself seem to
endorse it. I had silently ignored it, as you might have noticed.
I will not respond to hatred with hatred, or prejudice with prejudice.
It is all people have done so far, and that's why we all live in such a
happy world.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Ronald
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Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:
 On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
  Hello Bryan,
 
  Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
 
  BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing
   as you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again. 
   After all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
 
  BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
 
  How about cp/m?

 Do it in Hex

from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia

ronald

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 01 April 2004 09:40 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:09, Larry Varney wrote:
  Josenildo Marques wrote:
   I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but
   I've also come back to Windows, the best operating system
   ever ! Linux experience is, to say the least, disappointing
   and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I can't
   avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same.
   Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
 Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post,
  seeing as how it's April 1st?

 BINGO !

I'm disappointed Jose   I figured you let it go on a LOT 
longer.

   But thanks, it was amusing
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 02 April 2004 08:48 am, Ronald wrote:
 Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:
  On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
   Hello Bryan,
  
   Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:
  
   BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same
thing as you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98
again. After all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
  
   BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
  
   How about cp/m?
 
  Do it in Hex

 from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia
still got my old KIM-1 ;-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Charles Ramsey
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:40:07 -0300
Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:09, Larry Varney wrote:
  Josenildo Marques wrote:
   I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
   come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
   is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
   better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
   Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

  
 Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how 
  it's April 1st?
  
 BINGO !

That is excellent!A most outstanding use of the April Fool phenomena.  I must 
admit I fell for it as well.

Regards,

Charles


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Asa Rossoff
 Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've
 also come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
 experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
 feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
 advice: do the same.  Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second
 chance.

 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:09, Larry Varney wrote:
Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how
 it's April 1st?

 Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BINGO !

Charles Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That is excellent!A most outstanding use of the April Fool
phenomena.
 I must admit I fell for it as well.

Yes :)  I must admit, though, that the part about Linux being frustrating
isn't entirely ludicrous to me.   Linux is clearly an amazing operating
system, and more powerful and secure than the competitors... but it is
also not yet the most user-friendly operating system, and still requires
above average technical capacities to get it running smoothly, and to solve
problems.  I *yearn* for the time when those things are overcome and Linux
is usable for more people...

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-02 Thread Aron Smith
On Friday 02 April 2004 05:13 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 On Friday 02 April 2004 02:06 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
  On Friday 02 April 2004 08:48 am, Ronald wrote:
   Op vrijdag 2 april 2004 09:37, schreef Aron Smith:
On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Bryan,

 Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

 BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same
  thing as you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing
  98 again. After all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with
  Windows.

 BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

 How about cp/m?
   
Do it in Hex
  
   from time to time I fire up my old ZX81.. real nostalgia
 
  still got my old KIM-1 ;-)
It is modified  got 4k of Static Ram (rembember static ram?)

 And the winner of the 2004 Ultimate Packrat Award is (fanfare, please) Aron
 Smith!
 -- cmg


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[newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.


Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Jimmy Bradley
If that's what you want to do, it's your right to do so. As far as your
advice goes, I'll take your advice, and toss it out the window.

Jim

On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 06:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
 come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
 experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
 feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
 advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
  



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
 back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
 say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
 that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
 Linux and give Windows a second chance.
you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)


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RE: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Tobias Cloete








Thats your choice.

I love OpenSouce and I run 3 pcs at
home with Linux installed on all of them at work 2. Im the only linux
guy here and love to be different.

Linux is my desktop and Windows just
cracks me up!



Btw. His is a Technical list, not a
flaming one. Please keep you opinion to yourself



~Jargon



-Original Message-
From: Josenildo Marques
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 April 2004 02:16 PM
To: newbie
Subject: [newbie] back to the good
old Windows





I have not only erased
Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come back to Windows, the best
operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say the least, disappointing
and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this
piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
















Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Josenildo Marques wrote:
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.

We'll be seeing you soon enough.

Lanman



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Larry Varney
Josenildo Marques wrote:
I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
  Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how 
it's April 1st?



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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread LtCdData
as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
 try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you

On Thursday 01 Apr 2004 H:32, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
  come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience
  is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much
  better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same.
  Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

 you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)


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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
LtCdData wrote:
as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
 try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you
Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL 
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H 
! You just might have something there! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Glenn
On Thursday 01 April 2004 06:09, Larry Varney wrote:



Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how
 it's April 1st?

I'd like to think that this is the case.  I don't remember Josenildo making 
preliminary noises of moving back to the BGOS, so I think he's pulling our 
legs.





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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
 back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
 say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
 that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
 Linux and give Windows a second chance.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread JoeHill
On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300
Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:

 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
 back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say
 the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I
 can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and
 give Windows a second chance.

Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!

This has got to be a joke...

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their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
 LtCdData wrote:
  as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
   try this simple test...
  point a torch at one ear and switch on.
  if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you

 Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
 lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
 ! You just might have something there! Grin!
Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 12:09, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300
 Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
 
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
  back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to say
  the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better that I
  can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and
  give Windows a second chance.
 
 Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!
 
 This has got to be a joke...

Yeah, YOU got it !
It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had to
tell a lie :-)

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:08, Lanman wrote:
 Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
  come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
  is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
  better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
  Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
   
 
 You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
 place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
 with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
 Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.
 
 We'll be seeing you soon enough.
 
 Lanman

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:09, Larry Varney wrote:
 Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
  come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
  is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
  better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
  Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
   
 
Am I the only one to suspect the intent of your post, seeing as how 
 it's April 1st?
 
BINGO !

 
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 09:32, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 01 April 2004 04:15 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
  back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
  say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
  that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
  Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 you realize that you do have to have a double digit IQ to use Linux? ;-)

wOW, MAN, that was cruel. 
It even reminded me of Shakespeare. I have to be cruel only to be
kind.

APRIL FOOL !!  :-)

 
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
 come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
 experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
 feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
 advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.


I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
JoeHill wrote:
On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:38:38 -0300
Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:

Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to him?!

This has got to be a joke...
Yeah, YOU got it !
It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had to
tell a lie :-)


...actually, Larry gets the prize, he saw through it first. Does show how bloody
easy it is to get people goin' though, eh?
I have definitely got to cut back on the caffeine !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Aron Smith wrote:
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:

LtCdData wrote:

as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you
Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
! You just might have something there! Grin!
Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)

Lanman


Dude, When you're right, You're right !

I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the 
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant flashlight, instead of a 
Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,... kind of 
torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my 
torch better than his. LOL!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:08, Lanman wrote:

Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience 
is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much 
better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. 
Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

You have obviously forgotten the reason you came here in the first 
place. I guess you stayed long enough to forget all the problems you had 
with Windows. It's your choice, of course, but I think you'll be back. 
Personally, I wouldn't give up this quickly, but to each his own.

We'll be seeing you soon enough.

Lanman


Lanman ___ April Fool !!


DoH ! Busted ! You sneaky bugger ! I was wondering why you - Of All 
People - would be leaving ! I haven't been fooled that good for a long 
time ! Just wait until next year ! Grin !

I hate it when that happens !

LOL!

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 07:15, Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm
feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of
advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.


I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.
LX


See what I mean ? Coming from Lyvim, I would have known it was a prank ! 
You got me good on that one!  As for you, Lyvim, Give it up Buddy! 
There's no way you'd give up on Linux unless it meant losing a delicate 
part of your anatomy !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

 I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
 you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
 all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 03:08 am, many eyes viewed Lyvim Xaphir's words:-
 On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 11:10, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 13:08, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
   On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 10:38, Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 12:09, JoeHill wrote:
 On Thu,  1 Apr 2004 09:15:47 -0300

 Josenildo Marques disseminated the following:
  I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've
  also come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux
  experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating.
  I'm feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this
  piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a
  second chance.

 Okay, where is the *real* Mr. Marques, and what have you done to
 him?!

 This has got to be a joke...
   
Yeah, YOU got it !
It's April the first, right ? So, according to tradition, I just had
to tell a lie :-)
  
   Well, I wish you'd waited before you blew your cover.  This was so good
   I wanted to piggyback in on this deal.  You messed up my fun.  :)
  
   LX
 
  Sorry, Lyvim.
  I had some fun, but, to tell you the truth, I also thought things could
  get 'out of control'.
  But there are other lists, right ?!! :-)

 Hmyeah, that's a good point.  ;)


 LX

In my case I have an excuse, here it is April 2 but it does certainly suggest 
that we are too protective and maybe even defensive?

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Marc Resnick
Lanman wrote:

Aron Smith wrote:

On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:

LtCdData wrote:

as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
try this simple test...
point a torch at one ear and switch on.
if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you


Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
! You just might have something there! Grin!


Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)

Lanman



Dude, When you're right, You're right !

I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the 
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant flashlight, instead of a 
Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,... kind 
of torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I 
like my torch better than his. LOL!

Lanman

 

Josenildo, I showed your e-mail to a friend and fellow OS X/Linux user. 
He's asked kindly for you never to do that again. He almost had a heart 
attack. As for you Lanman, yes, please do cut down on the caffeine, you 
just did like a dodecatuple post. Thanks for clearing up the torch 
issue,  I haven't spoken to a European since the summer, haha.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:50 am, many eyes viewed Lanman's words:-
 Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
 LtCdData wrote:
 as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
  try this simple test...
 point a torch at one ear and switch on.
 if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you
 
 Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
 lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
 ! You just might have something there! Grin!
 
  Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)
 
 Lanman

 Dude, When you're right, You're right !

 I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the
 word torch, I didn't realize that he meant flashlight, instead of a
 Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,... kind of
 torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
 torch better than his. LOL!

 Lanman

You can't use the torch you describe, because it melts the wax and blocks up 
the passage.

Charlie

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:15 pm, many eyes viewed Josenildo Marques's words:-
 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also come
 back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience is, to
 say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much better
 that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same. Uninstall
 Linux and give Windows a second chance.

You're welcome to your opinion of course, however incorrect, and if you don't 
wish to be considered touched, by this view and the action of posting it on 
this list, it would be best to desist.

Charlie

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these words: The clouds are in the heaven, the water is in the jar. 
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Marc Resnick wrote:
As for you Lanman, yes, please do cut down on the caffeine, you 
just did like a dodecatuple post. Thanks for clearing up the torch 
issue,  I haven't spoken to a European since the summer, haha.

--Marc
Um, Uh, Okay Marc. Thanks for setting me straight.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Lanman
Charlie wrote:
When LtCdData used the
word torch, I didn't realize that he meant flashlight, instead of a
Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,... kind of
torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
torch better than his. LOL!
Lanman


You can't use the torch you describe, because it melts the wax and blocks up 
the passage.
I knew about the wax thing Charlie. It would leave a mess of drippings 
on the poor SOB's shoulder, but your point is 
By the time it was all done, he wouldn't really be concerned about the 
wax, or his hair, or ,.!

So, What Passage ?? It would be a tubular cinder at that point ! Sorry 
if that's a bit too graphic. I just don't like ''em all that much.
Or did I give you a different impression? g

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread rikona
Hello Bryan,

Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

 I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
 you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
 all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

How about cp/m?

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:08 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Bryan,

 Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

 BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
  you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
  all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

 BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

 How about cp/m?

I could do that. I've still got an old cp/m machine here, but I tossed the 
terminal (ADM3A) out a while back. I guess I could teach this box to handle 
that job...
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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread David Williams
Sounds like an April Fools Joke to me.

On Thursday 01 April 2004 07:48 am, Tobias Cloete wrote:
 That's your choice.

 I love OpenSouce and I run 3 pc's at home with Linux installed on all of
 them at work 2. I'm the only linux guy here and love to be different.

 Linux is my desktop and Windows just cracks me up!



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 -Original Message-
 From: Josenildo Marques [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 April 2004 02:16 PM
 To: newbie
 Subject: [newbie] back to the good old Windows



 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also
 come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux experience
 is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm feeling so much
 better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of advice: do the same.
 Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Marv Boyes
Josenildo Marques wrote:

I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer, but I've also 
come back to Windows, the best operating system ever ! Linux 
experience is, to say the least, disappointing and frustrating. I'm 
feeling so much better that I can't avoid giving you this piece of 
advice: do the same. Uninstall Linux and give Windows a second chance.
 
How many chances do you propose a sane person give Windows? My own 
precious computer was rendered _inoperative_ by Windows; no number of 
clean reinstalls would fix it.

Look at the enourmous after-market industry which has sprung up to 
produce software which serves no other purpose than to make Windows work 
the way it should, or to provide simple, common-sense functionality for 
which no informed person would ever pay extra-- who, for example, would 
buy a new car knowing full well that the entire exhaust system would 
have to be replaced within a month? Windows won't even properly 
defragment its own filesystem, for crying out loud-- and very few 
affordable third-party applications do a much better job.

You know, in the midst of trying to get Windows to work again, I picked 
up a troubleshooting guide published by Microsoft themselves. In this 
book, it was clearly stated that Windows is inherently unstable and 
will, over time, deterriorate to the point that a clean reinstall is 
inevitable. Nobody should have to lose or even interrupt their work for 
this kind of shoddy workmanship.

It came down to simple mathematics for me-- US$69.00 for a complete, 
stable OS accompanied by the functional equivalent of thousands of 
dollars' worth of commercial software, versus US$100.00 for an UPGRADE 
to the most bloated, dumbed-down, shambling, sluggardly heap of 
bloatware ever foisted upon the computing public. The choice was clear.

Sorry your experience was so negative. Linux isn't for everybody. But 
calling upon others who've had the patience and commitment to both make 
Linux work and to contribute to the system's rapidly-growing user base 
to simply give up because of your disappointing and frustrating 
experience is in poor taste. I'd be curious to know how many of us, when 
we finally left Microsoft behind, stormed the Windows e-mail lists and 
posted flamebait there?

Whatever. Have fun downloading your service packs (i.e., patches for 
alpha-level bugs and stupid oversights) and paying to protect yourself 
from the next round of e-mail malware.

 I have not only erased Linux from my precious computer...

Good on you. See to it that you erase this list from your address book, 
as well.

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 22:58, Marv Boyes wrote:
 How many chances do you propose a sane person give Windows? My own 
 precious computer was rendered _inoperative_ by Windows; no number of 
 clean reinstalls would fix it.
 
No, I wouldn't propose it seriously, Marv. That's why I installed 9.2
for a friend some weeks ago. I have just talked to him over the phone
because he needed some help to do some things. He is not the computer
type and is enjoying everything: robustness, stability, no viruses, no
programmes performing illegal operations, etc, etc, etc.

If you read the whole thread you'll see I was joking because it's April
the 1st (it still is here where I live).

Be in peace !

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:50 am, Lanman wrote:
 Aron Smith wrote:
  On Thursday 01 April 2004 05:26 am, Lanman wrote:
 LtCdData wrote:
 as i emailed my lawyer just the day about how easy linux is
  try this simple test...
 point a torch at one ear and switch on.
 if the light shines straight through then linux is not for you
 
 Hmmm, I wonder if we could make that a standard aptitude test for ALL
 lawyers? Hey! Wait a minute! Aren't most politicans also lawyers? H
 ! You just might have something there! Grin!
 
  Naw some of them are too dense for the light to shine thru ;-)
 
 Lanman

 Dude, When you're right, You're right !

 I seem to have misunderstood something though. When LtCdData used the
 word torch, I didn't realize that he meant flashlight, instead of a
 Device that emits flame under pressure for the purpose of,... kind of
 torch ! That's what I thought he meant ! OOps! Good idea, but I like my
 torch better than his. LOL!
Oh Oxy-Acyteleyne that works:-D

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Re: [newbie] back to the good old Windows

2004-04-01 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 01 April 2004 02:08 pm, rikona wrote:
 Hello Bryan,

 Thursday, April 1, 2004, 12:35:45 PM, you wrote:

 BP On Thursday 01 April 2004 10:52 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  I agree completely, Jose.  I'm in the process of doing the same thing as
  you are; formatting the drive for FAT32 and installing 98 again.  After
  all, there's alot of nostalgia involved with Windows.

 BP Nostalgia.  Try going back to DOS.

 How about cp/m?
Do it in Hex


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