Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq = success at last
I knew that was the RPM you needed, because I had been missing the same file as you! But I go through a process when finding a dependecy. First I go to rpmfind.net and go search for the name of whatever I happen to be missing that day. Then if that gives a no go (like in this case, there is no iostream.h.rpm file) then I fire up Google Linux (http://google.com/linux) and search for it there. That usually works. So next time you're missing a file, just check those places. You can download the file here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html Anthony, thanks very much, your suggestion did the trick! How did you know this was the rpm I needed - did you just do a search at rpmfind.net for iostreams.h? I hate having to ask for help with problems like this and would like to know how to find out what it is I need - but again, I'm not a C programmer and don't really wanna learn C. At least not now. Perl, maybe :-) Also, it's even more confusing because I had the -3 version of the above installed. Very strange. dave w -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq = success at last
I knew that was the RPM you needed, because I had been missing the same file as you! But I go through a process when finding a dependecy. First I go to rpmfind.net and go search for the name of whatever I happen to be missing that day. Then if that gives a no go (like in this case, there is no iostream.h.rpm file) then I fire up Google Linux (http://google.com/linux) and search for it there. That usually works. So next time you're missing a file, just check those places. Thanks, Anthony. I should have gone a few steps farther along my normal fix-it path. Sounds like we work a bit alike :-) Sometimes after a certain number of aggravations / install-failures / et cetera, though, it's easier to just ask for help. I anticipate the day, however, when I'll be in Linux where I am now in windows ... which is to say someone who can answer most questions and even make a few bucks on the side doing it. I'm no guru, but I can get the job done. That's all (I suspect) MOST of us want to be with this OS: able to do most anything we want to do without too much research or troubleshooting. I just reread your message before getting ready to hit the enter key - and noticed you said "google.com.LINUX." I didn't notice that the first time! And I didn't know about that! I will give that a try immediately! Thanks for the great pointer... By the way, using Windows 2000 Pro here on a Celeron 500 laptop with 128 megs ( as I write this I mean ) and it's only asked for a reboot once since install (when I wanted to change some APM settings). It installs like NT4 and looks like 98 gussied up a bit. I need to learn this stuff so I won't get lost when a customer asks me to fix something on their box, but as much improved as it is, it still doesn't make me want to switch back (except for games, and that will change soon enough. I just this weekend got Quake III going in Linux! yay!) thanks dave
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq
David van Balen wrote: Dunno if this is the only problem, but it looks like you need to install C++ headers (you can get the rpm off your mandrake CD). Well, I can't find anything on the CD that looks like C++ headers - the only thing that says "headers" is the kernel headers, so I installed them, no joy. It says " iostream.h: no such file or directory" --- does anyone know where to get this if this is the problem?
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq
You can download the file here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html and/or this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html but it still may not work. I had the same problem and I had to end up reinstalling Linux. I couldn't install the part of gcc that compiled C++ files, which iostream.h is apart of. I don't see why all the libaries and compilers aren't installed automatically in Mandrake, it's a huge hassle to have to go find them whenver you're missing one. And since Linux requires a lot of it's programs to be compiled by the user, it would just make sense to automatically include them all when someone installs. Dunno if this is the only problem, but it looks like you need to install C++ headers (you can get the rpm off your mandrake CD). Well, I can't find anything on the CD that looks like C++ headers - the only thing that says "headers" is the kernel headers, so I installed them, no joy. It says " iostream.h: no such file or directory" --- does anyone know where to get this if this is the problem? -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq
Anthony Huereca wrote: You can download the file here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html and/or this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html but it still may not work. I had the same problem and I had to end up reinstalling Linux. I couldn't install the part of gcc that compiled C++ files, which iostream.h is apart of. I don't see why all the libaries and compilers aren't installed automatically in Mandrake, it's a huge hassle to have to go find them whenver you're missing one. And since Linux requires a lot of it's programs to be compiled by the user, it would just make sense to automatically include them all when someone installs. Amen, brother. I'm pretty technically literate and have been using and repairing PCs for years. I'm a systems tech for a gov't agency and work on some pretty heavy stuff. Why should I practically have to learn C just to install a program? This is the main reason I still can't recommend even Mandrake for most average users. It's ALMOST there. But installing programs is the biggest pain in the tail in Linux. RPMs are a big help - but even they often need work. How is Aunt Sue spozed to figger out the dependency problems for example? I'll try installing libstdc++ from above - downloading it now - but I have the -3 version already installed and KXICQ still won't make. By the time I get it figured out (or just give up, I've got other stuff to do) probably the RPM will be released anyway. It's pretty much a flawless install for me, usually. Thanks. dave williamson
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq = success at last
Anthony Huereca wrote: You can download the file here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html Anthony, thanks very much, your suggestion did the trick! How did you know this was the rpm I needed - did you just do a search at rpmfind.net for iostreams.h? I hate having to ask for help with problems like this and would like to know how to find out what it is I need - but again, I'm not a C programmer and don't really wanna learn C. At least not now. Perl, maybe :-) Also, it's even more confusing because I had the -3 version of the above installed. Very strange. dave w
Re: [newbie] can't seem to MAKE the new kxicq
This is where a program like apt in Debian packaging system is great. It will sort out those dependency's when the package is installed by itself. Seems to work great even installs them in order. Mandrake should consider maybe using somthing similiar to this. Jeanette Dave W wrote: Anthony Huereca wrote: You can download the file here: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html and/or this: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-4mdk.i586.html but it still may not work. I had the same problem and I had to end up reinstalling Linux. I couldn't install the part of gcc that compiled C++ files, which iostream.h is apart of. I don't see why all the libaries and compilers aren't installed automatically in Mandrake, it's a huge hassle to have to go find them whenver you're missing one. And since Linux requires a lot of it's programs to be compiled by the user, it would just make sense to automatically include them all when someone installs. Amen, brother. I'm pretty technically literate and have been using and repairing PCs for years. I'm a systems tech for a gov't agency and work on some pretty heavy stuff. Why should I practically have to learn C just to install a program? This is the main reason I still can't recommend even Mandrake for most average users. It's ALMOST there. But installing programs is the biggest pain in the tail in Linux. RPMs are a big help - but even they often need work. How is Aunt Sue spozed to figger out the dependency problems for example? I'll try installing libstdc++ from above - downloading it now - but I have the -3 version already installed and KXICQ still won't make. By the time I get it figured out (or just give up, I've got other stuff to do) probably the RPM will be released anyway. It's pretty much a flawless install for me, usually. Thanks. dave williamson -- Jeanette A. Russo, MSW, MCP
