Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Jon Hunter

Might tick off those of us without a broadband connection...

Please don't post binaries.

If you want to share a file, post it on the web.

Tony wrote:

 Might amuse those who have not heard it yet!
 "Weave a circle round him thrice,
   And close your eyes with holy dread,
   For he on honeydew hath fed,
   And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

 - Original Message -
 From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM
 Subject: [newbie] check this site out

 
  www.kmfms.com
 
  Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
  love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
  willing to bet some of you will like.
 
 
 
  Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
  LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
  do this as well?
 
  I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
  please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
  is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
  ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
  get sick of it.
 
  ~Jeremy

   
Name: win95sux.mp3
win95sux.mp3Type: Winamp media file (audio/mpeg)
Encoding: base64




Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Tony

Your comment is certainly one I listen too carefully particularly since it
is polite and not offensive in its approach, those who are offensive are
like barking dogs unworthy of attention, in the words of one reply  -  You
Know Who You Are.
Just for information why isn't it possible to simply decline to open large
attachments (not that I make a habit of sending them) , I open very few
attachments of any kind on security principle unless I know where they come
from.
The only reason for posting this attachment was to provide some amusement.
For the benefit of those who could (would) not open it the file is an mp3
skit on  the original Stones music for the 95 release with appropriate
updated words! (named win95sux)
 Placing on the web, I wouldn't know where and have forgotten how I obtained
it in the first place except I think it was one of the anti-microsoft sites.
Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember
the frustrations of slow downloads however in this kind of scenario there
is, like sex  violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch
or in computerese the mouse click -  lo and behold the problem is gone.
Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I
have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a
little ( not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's
not directed at you of course)
"Weave a circle round him thrice,
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Hunter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] check this site out


 Might tick off those of us without a broadband connection...

 Please don't post binaries.

 If you want to share a file, post it on the web.

 Tony wrote:

  Might amuse those who have not heard it yet!
  "Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honeydew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM
  Subject: [newbie] check this site out
 
  
   www.kmfms.com
  
   Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.
Gotta
   love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
   willing to bet some of you will like.
  
  
  
   Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
   LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me
to
   do this as well?
  
   I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
   please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better
yet,
   is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
   ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until
I
   get sick of it.
  
   ~Jeremy
 

 Name: win95sux.mp3
 win95sux.mp3Type: Winamp media file (audio/mpeg)
 Encoding: base64





Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread bluebottle

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote:
 
 Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember
 the frustrations of slow downloads however in this kind of scenario there
 is, like sex  violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch
 or in computerese the mouse click -  lo and behold the problem is gone.
 Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I
 have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a
 little ( not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's
 not directed at you of course)

I'm not against humour on the Internet, as my own web sites will prove. Equally
I'm not against a joke in email form. I am against large, unwanted, attachments
to email.

Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, it it not possible to tell what you
are downloading as an attachment - I use kmail. 

A great many of us do have to pay for our connection on a time basis - I'm
fortunate that I have a freephone connection in the evenings and at the weekend
so it didn't cost me any extra money to download and dump this attachment. 

The argument about the on/off switch is not valid as your email was on my ISP
server and I spent over 9 minutes wondering who had sent me this large file.

Please consider people who are less fortunate than you are - I seem to recall
that you have a radio connection to your maritime location,



-- 
Regards

John the Nadger

http://mklinux.cjb.net

http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
 



Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Alex V Flinsch

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote:
 Just for information why isn't it possible to simply decline to open large
 attachments (not that I make a habit of sending them) , I open very few
 attachments of any kind on security principle unless I know where they come
 from.

Opening the attachment is different from downloading it.   I have a cron job
set to kickoff fetchmail every so often and download all messages in all
accounts. Since this email account is only used for a few mailing lists, I did
not set a size limit in the .fetchmailrc file.  


  Placing on the web, I wouldn't know where and have forgotten how I obtained
 it in the first place except I think it was one of the anti-microsoft sites.

If I read the above correctly, you did not post it to a web site, since you did
not know who to give credit to. If you did not know what restrictions were
placed on copying and distribution by the original author/artist/performer, why
would you think that email was any different from a website posting?


 Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember 

Some of us live in internet hell no cable modems, no dsl, just a plain old
modem over crappy telephone lines, which get a 26400 connection at best.
(Although the telco says dsl is coming soon).


 the frustrations of slow downloads however in  this kind of scenario there 
 is, like sex  violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch 
 or in computerese the mouse click -  lo and behold the problem is gone. 

Not quite the same.  Content is not the same as size. I often choose what to
download  based upon the size of the file. This was forced upon me. While I
could have set my configuration file to block the download, I chose not to,
based on the fact that this email address is mostly used for a few mailing
lists where folks are usually well behaved.  Sometimes size does matter...

 Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I  
 have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a  
 little (not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's  
 not directed at you of course)

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the clip. I even downloaded an updated mp3
player so my wife could listen to it on her windows machine. I would have just
prefered to choose to download it, rather than having it sent to me without
warning.

-- 
Alex
(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)



Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Rial Juan


Yeah, it's possible.

I just use ASCII-art at the boot-prompt (the linux logo you get when you type
linux_logo at the prompt if you have the package installed).

somehow, a "real" graphic must be possible too, since the install does it, but I
have no idea how.

You can get the ascii-stuff however, by downloading and installing
"lilo-colors" or something like that. If you're interrested, and can't find it
on freshmeat, I'll forward the RPM to you, just drop me a mail.

On Mar 17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 www.kmfms.com
 
 Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
 love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
 willing to bet some of you will like.
 
 
 
 Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
 LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
 do this as well?
 
 I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
 please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
 is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
 ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
 get sick of it.
 
 ~Jeremy
 

-- 

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e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
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That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...



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Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Vic

I thought that e mail listers were configured to
not post anything larger than like 200K or so
lest it be truncated.



On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, bluebottle mewed:
 On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote:
  
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM
  Subject: [newbie] check this site out
  
  
   
   www.kmfms.com
   
   Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
   love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
   willing to bet some of you will like.
   
   
   
   Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
   LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
   do this as well?
   
   I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
   please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
   is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
   ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
   get sick of it.
   
   ~Jeremy
  
 
 This is one of the worst examples of email bad manners I've ever seen. What
 gives any person the right to post a 2mb file to a mailing list. I hope that
 the majordomo will immediately remove this person, permanently, from this list.
 
 
  -- 
 Regards
 
 John the Nadger
 
 http://mklinux.cjb.net
 
 http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
-- 
My new linux web servers with Apache

http://kittypuss.dnydns.org
http://kittypuss.penguinpowered.com



Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-19 Thread Rial Juan


*** Before I read the complete thread.

Oh God, there we go again. Someone makes _one_ mistake on the list, and the
flaming starts all over again. Ok, it's not so nice of him to not consider the
poor modem-users when posting to the list by sending huge files, and it is quite
like you put it: "email bad manners". But aren't you exagerrating a little?
Remove him from the list permanently for one mistake?

After all, as I remember from the 2 flaming wars waged against me, you people
from this list claimed to be "newbie friendly" and "tolerant" and all that crap,
which I, according to you guys, wasn't when I told ppl to RTFM before asking
questions. So where's your so called tolerance for this fellow now? Who knows,
he might be just a newbie who doesn't realise other people need half an hour to
download a 2MB file because he has a high-bandwidth connection.

*** After I read the complete thread.

Ok, by now I've read the whole thread before pressing the "send mail" button, so
I know you didn't actually mean it this way and already kind of took back those
words you said. Next time try to be more careful with the harsh words though. I
for one don't give a rat's ass if you all flame me because I try to get a point
accross, but I heard rumours that there's actually a sub-branch of the "homo
geekus" whose brain hasn't completely developped into its binary form yet, and
who still have some fuzzy-logic algorithms they seem to interpret as feelings.
These underdevelopped sub-species of our race should be treated with care since
they can still get "hurt" in a non-physical way, leading to decreased efficiency
at work due to a state of "depression".

Ok, think you got my point ;)



On Mar 19 bluebottle wrote:

 On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote:
  
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM
  Subject: [newbie] check this site out
  
  
   
   www.kmfms.com
   
   Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
   love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
   willing to bet some of you will like.
   
   
   
   Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
   LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
   do this as well?
   
   I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
   please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
   is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
   ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
   get sick of it.
   
   ~Jeremy
  
 
 This is one of the worst examples of email bad manners I've ever seen. What
 gives any person the right to post a 2mb file to a mailing list. I hope that
 the majordomo will immediately remove this person, permanently, from this list.
 
 
  -- 
 Regards
 
 John the Nadger
 
 http://mklinux.cjb.net
 
 http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
  
 

-- 

Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org
e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533
ulyssis system admininstrator   http://www.ulyssis.org

The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly.
That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee...



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Re: [newbie] check this site out

2000-03-18 Thread Tony

Might amuse those who have not heard it yet!
"Weave a circle round him thrice,
  And close your eyes with holy dread,
  For he on honeydew hath fed,
  And drunk the milk of paradise."  (The linux user)

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM
Subject: [newbie] check this site out


 
 www.kmfms.com
 
 Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
 love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
 willing to bet some of you will like.
 
 
 
 Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
 LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
 do this as well?
 
 I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
 please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
 is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
 ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
 get sick of it.
 
 ~Jeremy

 win95sux.mp3


[newbie] check this site out

2000-03-17 Thread Jeremy


www.kmfms.com

Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme.  Gotta
love that graphic!  I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm
willing to bet some of you will like.



Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my
LILO prompt.  Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it.  Is it possible for me to
do this as well?

I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints
please post.  If I figure it out I will post how here.  Or, better yet,
is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC
ASCII characters)  I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I
get sick of it.

~Jeremy