Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 02:49, MWafkowski wrote: Stephen -- Hey, hey, I'm the one who has to close his eyes at night with the boxes humming and staring at me as I sleep...let's not get them two riled up here...shesh. Mike Wafkowski Close one's eyes at night? Hmmm...strange concept. Is that a customary thing? -- Sun Jun 29 08:25:00 EST 2003 08:25:00 up 4 days, 8:11, 3 users, load average: 1.08, 1.16, 1.19 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Most people exhibit what political scientists call the conservatism of the peasantry. Don't lose what you've got. Don't change. Don't take a chance, because you might end up starving to death. Play it safe. Buy just as much as you need. Don't waste time. When we think about risk, human beings and corporations realize in their heads that risks are necessary to grow, to survive. But when it comes down to keeping good people when the crunch comes, or investing money in something untried, only the brave reach deep into their pockets and play the game as it must be played. - David Lammers, Yakitori, Electronic Engineering Times, January 18, 1988 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Saturday 28 June 2003 19:29, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:26 am, Tsyko wrote: the output is as follows: CPU0 0: 22116IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 7IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 12291IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 84IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 3558 IO-APIC-level ide2, ide4, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 18: 2026 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, Audigy 19: 2 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, ohci1394 22:267 IO-APIC-level eth0 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ehci-hcd NMI: 0 LOC: 22062 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 On Saturday, 28 June 2003 13:38, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 09:51, Tsyko wrote: Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? did you not say this was an enterprise kernel? ? post the output from the command mentioned below? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work ___ ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I thought that hyperthreading was not being implimented until the 2.5.xx kernel release? Like what Stephen implied. That kernel will be out soon. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.2/1198.html HTH a little :) -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
It seems it didn't make it to the list the first time... Sorry if you get it twice. On Saturday 28 June 2003 19:29, Dennis Myers wrote: On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:26 am, Tsyko wrote: the output is as follows: CPU0 0: 22116IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 7IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 12291IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 84IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 3558 IO-APIC-level ide2, ide4, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 18: 2026 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, Audigy 19: 2 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, ohci1394 22:267 IO-APIC-level eth0 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ehci-hcd NMI: 0 LOC: 22062 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 On Saturday, 28 June 2003 13:38, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 09:51, Tsyko wrote: Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? did you not say this was an enterprise kernel? ? post the output from the command mentioned below? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work ___ ___ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I thought that hyperthreading was not being implimented until the 2.5.xx kernel release? Like what Stephen implied. That kernel will be out soon. http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.2/1198.html HTH a little :) -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
You sound like a natural born Linux man to me! Myself, I'm more the brute force method of troubleshooter. Been making a living at it for almost 20 years now - Thank goodness for my friends, lists, etc. Heck, the more I think about it the more surprised I am that I'm not a homeless person. You're gonna be fine son, just fine. Peace, Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] hyper threading On Saturday 28 June 2003 12:11 am, Charlie wrote: Making a mess that seems not fixable, and learning how not to make such mistakes, is what this list is about. Believe it or not there will come a time, probably very soon, when you'll even understand how to fix *those* seemingly unfixable mistakes. When that day comes you'll wonder what the panic was, and you'll have begun to be truly free. In a computing sense at least. well, i've got a LONG way to go, but hopefully i --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/2/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 08:04, Phares wrote: I have two XP boxes, Two OSx boxes, one OS9 laptop, one OS 8 server, One win2000 laptop, a 4 machine linux cluster, and a playstation 2 on my home Lan, the only issue I've noticed is that my power bills can get pretty expensive. (Luckily half the computers are my roomies) No interbreeding yet. The cluster however talks quietly behind my back about how to destroy my pet fish... I just know it. I'm rather surprised at how you can take a wonderfully built LAN like that and put two Windows machines on ityech...All that wonderful runs like a champ OS+hardware and then two Windows machines. BTW, care must be taken in the keeping of clusters; with pets and small children, they cannot be trusted. -- Sat Jun 28 17:55:00 EST 2003 17:55:00 up 3 days, 17:41, 4 users, load average: 1.11, 1.11, 1.04 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 06:06, Tsyko wrote: On Friday, 27 June 2003 12:20, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Thanks in advance Tsyko LINUX ROCKS Sadly, it probably isn't. Are you running kernel 2.5.X ? No I am running the enterprise kernel that came on the MDK 9.1 CD´s. Sadly, you're not. -- Sat Jun 28 17:50:00 EST 2003 17:50:00 up 3 days, 17:36, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.00, 0.99 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I never said all Democrats were saloonkeepers; what I said was all saloonkeepers were Democrats. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 05:45, MWafkowski wrote: Joe - Now wait...I respect your opinions and you bring up some troubling issues. On me little home network here I've got seven machines, three Linux, two XP, one Win 2000 and this scrawny little p133 laptop I'm writing on with Win 98. Do I have to worry about interbreeding across the LAN?! Anxiously awaiting your instrucions. Peace, Mike Wafkowski Oy - I thought that SOMWEWHERE within the M$ EULA it strictly prohibits having an unlicensed home network - especially a home network SHARING ANYTHING AT ALL as it's against the EULA to share data/information/files between the Windows OS and ANOTHER OS - specifically one that's illegal. I assume you've got your M$ license for both the XP machines AND the one Win2k machine AND the Win98 machine? AND you've got the licenses either taped to the CPU or readily available should the M$ License Patrol stop by for a quick check up? I'd truly hate to think that you MIGHT be running not only an ILLEGAL OS like LINUX, but having bootlegged copies of LEGAL SOFTWARE like Windows... (g) -- Sat Jun 28 17:45:01 EST 2003 17:45:01 up 3 days, 17:31, 4 users, load average: 0.93, 0.94, 0.97 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 03:50, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 06:06, Tsyko wrote: On Friday, 27 June 2003 12:20, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Thanks in advance Tsyko LINUX ROCKS Sadly, it probably isn't. Are you running kernel 2.5.X ? No I am running the enterprise kernel that came on the MDK 9.1 CD´s. Sadly, you're not. what does cat /proc/intrrupts say? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 09:51, Tsyko wrote: Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? did you not say this was an enterprise kernel? ? post the output from the command mentioned below? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
the output is as follows: CPU0 0: 22116IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 7IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 12291IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 84IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 3558 IO-APIC-level ide2, ide4, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 18: 2026 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, Audigy 19: 2 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, ohci1394 22:267 IO-APIC-level eth0 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ehci-hcd NMI: 0 LOC: 22062 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 On Saturday, 28 June 2003 13:38, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 09:51, Tsyko wrote: Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? did you not say this was an enterprise kernel? ? post the output from the command mentioned below? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
Hello, hello, is there anyone out there? There's a bunch of armed guys surrounding my house wearing kind of, well, butterfly suits. My phone's been shutdown and I don't think their intentions are good. I was hoping it was just a flashback thing from the good old days. Since a round came through the window I'm thinking not. Just sent the family into the basement and I'm crouched on the floor with my laptop and a Phillips head. Send help! MRW - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] hyper threading On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 05:45, MWafkowski wrote: Joe - Now wait...I respect your opinions and you bring up some troubling issues. On me little home network here I've got seven machines, three Linux, two XP, one Win 2000 and this scrawny little p133 laptop I'm writing on with Win 98. Do I have to worry about interbreeding across the LAN?! Anxiously awaiting your instrucions. Peace, Mike Wafkowski Oy - I thought that SOMWEWHERE within the M$ EULA it strictly prohibits having an unlicensed home network - especially a home network SHARING ANYTHING AT ALL as it's against the EULA to share data/information/files between the Windows OS and ANOTHER OS - specifically one that's illegal. I assume you've got your M$ license for both the XP machines AND the one Win2k machine AND the Win98 machine? AND you've got the licenses either taped to the CPU or readily available should the M$ License Patrol stop by for a quick check up? I'd truly hate to think that you MIGHT be running not only an ILLEGAL OS like LINUX, but having bootlegged copies of LEGAL SOFTWARE like Windows... (g) -- Sat Jun 28 17:45:01 EST 2003 17:45:01 up 3 days, 17:31, 4 users, load average: 0.93, 0.94, 0.97 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
Stephen -- Hey, hey, I'm the one who has to close his eyes at night with the boxes humming and staring at me as I sleep...let's not get them two riled up here...shesh. Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] hyper threading On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 08:04, Phares wrote: I have two XP boxes, Two OSx boxes, one OS9 laptop, one OS 8 server, One win2000 laptop, a 4 machine linux cluster, and a playstation 2 on my home Lan, the only issue I've noticed is that my power bills can get pretty expensive. (Luckily half the computers are my roomies) No interbreeding yet. The cluster however talks quietly behind my back about how to destroy my pet fish... I just know it. I'm rather surprised at how you can take a wonderfully built LAN like that and put two Windows machines on ityech...All that wonderful runs like a champ OS+hardware and then two Windows machines. BTW, care must be taken in the keeping of clusters; with pets and small children, they cannot be trusted. -- Sat Jun 28 17:55:00 EST 2003 17:55:00 up 3 days, 17:41, 4 users, load average: 1.11, 1.11, 1.04 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Saturday 28 June 2003 11:26 am, Tsyko wrote: the output is as follows: CPU0 0: 22116IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 7IO-APIC-edge keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1IO-APIC-edge rtc 14: 12291IO-APIC-edge ide0 15: 84IO-APIC-edge ide1 16: 3558 IO-APIC-level ide2, ide4, usb-uhci, usb-uhci 18: 2026 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, Audigy 19: 2 IO-APIC-level usb-uhci, ohci1394 22:267 IO-APIC-level eth0 23: 0 IO-APIC-level ehci-hcd NMI: 0 LOC: 22062 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 On Saturday, 28 June 2003 13:38, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 09:51, Tsyko wrote: Only one processor Apparently not Is there a way to make it work? did you not say this was an enterprise kernel? ? post the output from the command mentioned below? On Saturday, 28 June 2003 11:21, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:11, Aron Smith wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes)cat /proc/interrupts say? and unless you are useing the SMP kernel, don't expect hyperthreading to work __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I thought that hyperthreading was not being implimented until the 2.5.xx kernel release? Like what Stephen implied. That kernel will be out soon. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 08:04, Phares wrote: I have two XP boxes, Two OSx boxes, one OS9 laptop, one OS 8 server, One win2000 laptop, a 4 machine linux cluster, and a playstation 2 on my home Lan, the only issue I've noticed is that my power bills can get pretty expensive. (Luckily half the computers are my roomies) No interbreeding yet. The cluster however talks quietly behind my back about how to destroy my pet fish... I just know it. Now it may be the fish but what after that? Your roomie, you, your neighbor, the town and then the world. QUICK pull the plug before it's too late. Make it to the power mains if you still can, while there is still time. Before the cluster grows before it's too late. -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and Windows free computer with Mandrake Linux 9.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] hyper threading
can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Thanks in advance Tsyko LINUX ROCKS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 22:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Speak DIRECTLY into the mouse. Then it will listen. -- Fri Jun 27 22:25:00 EST 2003 22:25:01 up 2 days, 22:11, 3 users, load average: 1.12, 1.17, 1.24 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Lying is an indispensable part of making life tolerable. -- Bergan Evans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Thanks in advance Tsyko LINUX ROCKS Sadly, it probably isn't. Are you running kernel 2.5.X ? -- Fri Jun 27 22:15:01 EST 2003 22:15:01 up 2 days, 22:01, 3 users, load average: 1.28, 1.31, 1.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Q: What is the difference between Texas and yogurt? A: Yogurt has culture. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 05:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:23:03 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: can any one tell me how i know if mandrake is using my hyper-threaded machine? Ask it politely? I tried but id didn't listen. Maybe I spoke into the wrong port? Well you could threaten it with winXP. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On 26 Jun 2003 21:11:11 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Well you could threaten it with winXP. NO! It could suicide on you...I've seen it happen. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
At 01:26 PM 6/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: On 26 Jun 2003 21:11:11 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Well you could threaten it with winXP. NO! It could suicide on you...I've seen it happen. -- + Joe Hill ROFL ! the nuts strikes again. thx for the giggles Joe. :) - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
quoting Michael; Friday 27 June 2003 02:06 pm: whack i threatened win98 with complete removal and 100% switch to linux when it started giving me problems the other day. guess what it did completely 100% encouraged me beyond a shadow of a doubt to make the switch. as of right now, win media player and any audio file i have saved on the computer will NOT play in windows, but gee, switch over to linux and it's FINE! sound card is starting to give me problems in windows, but it's working OK in linux (and my mobo getting up to 121 degrees the other day sure didn't help matters either, had tons of problems that day). and to try to correct the problems with windows, i insert the install CD and try to do a full install with format...it stops before it even gets to the install to tell me i don't have enough virtural memory to continue. ok, lemme get this straight, an 800mhz Asus mobo, AMD 950 processor, 768mb of ram, no programs running while i try to do the install, and i don't have enough memory?! guess win98 didn't take the linux threat lightly! Windows 9X (95, 98, 98SE, and ME) series won't install at all, or run for that matter, when there's more than 512 MB memory TOTAL (too many people forgot that Windows counts memory on video cards in that total) available without some severe sweet talking. Sometimes Win2K even has trouble. It's been a long time (3+ years) since I've had a Windows install of my own or had to help anyone with one, but the workaround for running with that much memory should still be in the Windows Knowledge Base or whatever oxymoronic name they called it. Yeah here it is. Word wrap will probably kill the link, it's all one line though: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q253/9/12.aspNoWebContent=1 Take out enough memory to get below the limit and the trouble should go away. Or just reclaim the disk space for Mandrake as I did. g Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 15:20:23 up 9 days, 20:36, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.09, 0.13 A truly great man will neither trample on a worm nor sneak to an emperor. -- B. Franklin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
I have two XP boxes, Two OSx boxes, one OS9 laptop, one OS 8 server, One win2000 laptop, a 4 machine linux cluster, and a playstation 2 on my home Lan, the only issue I've noticed is that my power bills can get pretty expensive. (Luckily half the computers are my roomies) No interbreeding yet. The cluster however talks quietly behind my back about how to destroy my pet fish... I just know it. --- MWafkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe - Now wait...I respect your opinions and you bring up some troubling issues. On me little home network here I've got seven machines, three Linux, two XP, one Win 2000 and this scrawny little p133 laptop I'm writing on with Win 98. Do I have to worry about interbreeding across the LAN?! Anxiously awaiting your instrucions. Peace, Mike Wafkowski - Original Message - From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] hyper threading At 01:26 PM 6/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: On 26 Jun 2003 21:11:11 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Well you could threaten it with winXP. NO! It could suicide on you...I've seen it happen. -- + Joe Hill ROFL ! the nuts strikes again. thx for the giggles Joe. :) - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 6/1/03 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] hyper threading
Hello MWafkowski, Friday, June 27, 2003, 12:45:34 PM, you wrote: M Do I have to worry about interbreeding across the LAN?! Anxiously M awaiting your instrucions. Watch out for the Win machines. In adhering to M$'s basic principles, they will try to scroo everything in sight. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
At 03:04 PM 6/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: I have two XP boxes, Two OSx boxes, one OS9 laptop, one OS 8 server, One win2000 laptop, a 4 machine linux cluster, and a playstation 2 on my home Lan, the only issue I've noticed is that my power bills can get pretty expensive. (Luckily half the computers are my roomies) No interbreeding yet. The cluster however talks quietly behind my back about how to destroy my pet fish... I just know it. laff.. u guys are good today... tho it may be just cause i started my torture sessions again.. Ed: watch this space in the coming weeks so you too can again ignore TV! Tune in next time for more adventures with Femme On Morphine! :D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Friday 27 June 2003 05:39 pm, Charlie wrote: Windows 9X (95, 98, 98SE, and ME) series won't install at all, or run for that matter, when there's more than 512 MB memory TOTAL (too many people forgot that Windows counts memory on video cards in that total) available without some severe sweet talking. Sometimes Win2K even has trouble. wow, and i was told that win98 just wouldn't use more than 512mb of ram. that's why i was shocked when i added a 512 stick to the mobo and it actually ran for a few days before it started giving me problems. I Windows Knowledge Base or whatever oxymoronic name they called it. you got that right Yeah here it is. Word wrap will probably kill the link, it's all one line though: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com :80/support/kb/articles/q253/9/12.aspNoWebContent=1 i'm going to try that out and see if i can fix the problem w/out having to remove the ram. see below. Take out enough memory to get below the limit and the trouble should go away. Or just reclaim the disk space for Mandrake as I did. g not ready to get rid of windows yet. i'm just starting with linux and my wife has a hard enough time with windows, let alone moving her to linux and confusing her even more. maybe after i take basiclinux i'll be more comfortable scrapping windows 100%, but we'll see. i'm in no way a programmer nor do i have any knowledge of programming, so windows is my backup if i make a mistake in linux that i can't fix. Thanks for the link! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
quoting Michael; Friday 27 June 2003 08:43 pm: On Friday 27 June 2003 05:39 pm, Charlie wrote: Windows 9X (95, 98, 98SE, and ME) series won't install at all, or run for that matter, when there's more than 512 MB memory TOTAL (too many people forgot that Windows counts memory on video cards in that total) available without some severe sweet talking. Sometimes Win2K even has trouble. wow, and i was told that win98 just wouldn't use more than 512mb of ram. that's why i was shocked when i added a 512 stick to the mobo and it actually ran for a few days before it started giving me problems. I Windows Knowledge Base or whatever oxymoronic name they called it. you got that right Yeah here it is. Word wrap will probably kill the link, it's all one line though: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.c om :80/support/kb/articles/q253/9/12.aspNoWebContent=1 i'm going to try that out and see if i can fix the problem w/out having to remove the ram. see below. Take out enough memory to get below the limit and the trouble should go away. Or just reclaim the disk space for Mandrake as I did. g not ready to get rid of windows yet. i'm just starting with linux and my wife has a hard enough time with windows, let alone moving her to linux and confusing her even more. maybe after i take basiclinux i'll be more comfortable scrapping windows 100%, but we'll see. i'm in no way a programmer nor do i have any knowledge of programming, so windows is my backup if i make a mistake in linux that i can't fix. Thanks for the link! Mike You're welcome. Yep, you're quick Mike. ;-) That's why the suggestion was posted as an either/or. There are valid reasons to have the option to boot more than one operating system and GNU/Linux is about opening up options; not limiting them. The choices are all yours. Making a mess that seems not fixable, and learning how not to make such mistakes, is what this list is about. Believe it or not there will come a time, probably very soon, when you'll even understand how to fix *those* seemingly unfixable mistakes. When that day comes you'll wonder what the panic was, and you'll have begun to be truly free. In a computing sense at least. Regards; C. -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 21:55:45 up 10 days, 3:11, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.06, 0.02 Logic and practical information do not seem to apply here. You admit that? To deny the facts would be illogical, Doctor -- Spock and McCoy, A Piece of the Action, stardate unknown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] hyper threading
On Saturday 28 June 2003 12:11 am, Charlie wrote: Making a mess that seems not fixable, and learning how not to make such mistakes, is what this list is about. Believe it or not there will come a time, probably very soon, when you'll even understand how to fix *those* seemingly unfixable mistakes. When that day comes you'll wonder what the panic was, and you'll have begun to be truly free. In a computing sense at least. well, i've got a LONG way to go, but hopefully i can get there eventually.i look at it this way, when i was 16, i didn't have the first clue what all the componets on an engine were. i had 2 friends drill it into me as to what everything was and how it worked. now 10 years later, ok, so i'm not doing full engine rebuilds in my backyard, but i've learned and progressed to where most mechanical repairs i can do on my own and with a little bit of questioning to those that do know, i feel comfortable doing things myself. i think the same is going to hold true for me using linux. yes, i do want my OS to be running smoothly and error free, just like we all like our cars to run. but i want to work with my OS the same way i work with my carsok, there's a problem, hmmm, well, i'm not going to just toss the whole engine and replace it to solve the problem, i'm going to locate the problem, fix the problem, test it, and keep going until it works right. windows seems to just be one of those it doesn't workformat and re-install type deals. i chalk it up to my desire to learn, human nature basically, why is it doing this and how can i fix it? seeing as how i like that approach, i think i'll do fine here. thanks again! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
