Re: [newbie] KDE Menus
Paul, Find out where the config file is kept and chmod that to your needs. Might be /etc/some-directory. What it might be is a file where the default menu values are written to as well as the ones that root places on the menu. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Paul R spake passionately saying! Speaking of menu editing, anybody know how to change permissions so that all users (or one) can edit the menus? I'm talking about Gnome here, but interested in KDE too. _paul r Jose M. Sanchez wrote: update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] KDE Menus
Try: find / -name *.kdelnk Sorry if thats rediculously slow, but I can't find another way that works for sure. You can try: locate kdelnk At one point the locate didn't work at all on mine. It does now, and I've no clue why. ls -R *.kdelnk still doesn't work. Maybe it will on yours. I'm just clueless "clubbing fodder" with linux, I'm afraid. BTW, have a look in /usr/share/applnk The .kdelnk files comprise the menus, it seems... Copy, paste and tweak or just edit with a text editor is what I've done... BobC Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE Menus Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:53:20 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, Find out where the config file is kept and chmod that to your needs. Might be /etc/some-directory. What it might be is a file where the default menu values are written to as well as the ones that root places on the menu. -- Mark ### ## ...it's not a bug, it's a feature ## Registered Linux User # 182496 ## !-- Pine 4.31 -- # On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Paul R spake passionately saying! Speaking of menu editing, anybody know how to change permissions so that all users (or one) can edit the menus? I'm talking about Gnome here, but interested in KDE too. _paul r Jose M. Sanchez wrote: update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK
[newbie] KDE Menus
Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK
RE: [newbie] KDE Menus
update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK
Re: [newbie] KDE Menus
Speaking of menu editing, anybody know how to change permissions so that all users (or one) can edit the menus? I'm talking about Gnome here, but interested in KDE too. _paul r Jose M. Sanchez wrote: update-menus -v -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Hildmann Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE Menus Hello All, When I upgraded some programs their links went away in the menus. The last one was Pan. I can add the programs again thru the menu editor but I was wondering if there was an easier way... I'm using Mandrake 7.2 with KDE 2.0 Thanks, -- Paul Linux User #191842 http://counter.li.org 2.2.17-21MDK _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
[newbie] kde menus
I've been trying to alter the main KDE menu but it seems to be reset when I login again. The KDE entries have been placed in a "default" menu and GNOME programs in my "personal" menu. This is with Linux-Mandrake 7.0, all Window managers installed. I want the GNOME stuff in a separate submenu, and the programs I use and know what they do in my personal menu. I don't want to just delete items in the present personal menu, the gnome menus are useful for trying things out and finding out what they do. I tried putting the files and folders in ~/.kde/share/applnk into a special Gnome subdirectory but KDE didn't let me move certain files. I logged in as root and it worked then, but KDE switched everything back to the old situation when I logged in again as user. The second time I used the KDE menu editor and had the basic setup I wanted, but when I logged in again, everything was reset. There's still a GNOME submenu with everything in the "personal" menu so I'm not doing something silly like modifying things in root and finding no changes in user. Logging in is slow too, it takes a minute or so longer as KDE resets everything to the original installation. KDE is a bit too much like Windows 95, thinks it knows what you want better than you do. Any solutions? An alternative app-launcher might be good, something like on-cue or Apollo for the Macintosh, if anyone is familiar with those. Advance thanks for any help, John Hendrickx __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] kde menus
On Sunday 15 October 2000 13:53, you scribled down on a piece of electronic paper: I tried putting the files and folders in ~/.kde/share/applnk into a special Gnome subdirectory but KDE didn't let me move certain files. I logged in as root and it worked then, but KDE switched everything back to the old situation when I logged in again as user. The second time I used the KDE menu editor and had the basic setup I wanted, but when I logged in again, everything was reset. There's still a GNOME submenu with everything in the "personal" menu so I'm not doing something silly like modifying things in root and finding no changes in user. Logging in is slow too, it takes a minute or so longer as KDE resets everything to the original installation. KDE is a bit too much like Windows 95, thinks it knows what you want better than you do. Any solutions? An alternative app-launcher might be good, If I'm not mistaking, this hasn't got anything to do with kde, it's a program in mandrake that screws up your kmenu. ps. I'm not 100% sure about this, but I'm running 7.2beta3 and had problems with my menus myself because of a mandrake program called menu-install or something like that. -- \ Christian A Strømmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not by the limits of reality...
Re: [newbie] kde menus
I've done a lot of menu changes myself. I did it though through kmenuedit. Did you try kmenuedit? Rather than moving any of the default entries, try copying them to where you want them. The changes stick for me in Mandrake 7.1 On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, you wrote: I've been trying to alter the main KDE menu but it seems to be reset when I login again. The KDE entries have been placed in a "default" menu and GNOME programs in my "personal" menu. This is with Linux-Mandrake 7.0, all Window managers installed. I want the GNOME stuff in a separate submenu, and the programs I use and know what they do in my personal menu. I don't want to just delete items in the present personal menu, the gnome menus are useful for trying things out and finding out what they do. I tried putting the files and folders in ~/.kde/share/applnk into a special Gnome subdirectory but KDE didn't let me move certain files. I logged in as root and it worked then, but KDE switched everything back to the old situation when I logged in again as user. The second time I used the KDE menu editor and had the basic setup I wanted, but when I logged in again, everything was reset. There's still a GNOME submenu with everything in the "personal" menu so I'm not doing something silly like modifying things in root and finding no changes in user. Logging in is slow too, it takes a minute or so longer as KDE resets everything to the original installation. KDE is a bit too much like Windows 95, thinks it knows what you want better than you do. Any solutions? An alternative app-launcher might be good, something like on-cue or Apollo for the Macintosh, if anyone is familiar with those. Advance thanks for any help, John Hendrickx __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854
Re: [newbie] kde menus
KDE resets everything to the original installation. KDE is a bit too much like Windows 95, thinks it knows what you want better than you do. Any solutions? An alternative app-launcher might be good, Fortunately, if you're smarter than the interface, you can fix it in the Linux case :-) My guess is that you've got an ownership problem from all the jumping back and forth between root and yourself when you have been changing this stuff. It's pretty likely that the problem is that root owns the .kde directory and .kderc file in your home directory. If I'm right, doing chown -R yourname .kde and chown -R yourname .kderc followed by the changes you want to make will result in those changes taking place and a simple restart of your X will have you happy as a clam. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] kde menus
--- Larry Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, if you're smarter than the interface, you can fix it in the Linux case :-) My guess is that you've got an ownership problem from all the jumping back and forth between root and yourself when you have been changing this stuff. It's pretty likely that the problem is that root owns the .kde directory and .kderc file in your home directory. If I'm right, doing No, I'm the owner of .kderc, .kde/ and its files and subdirectories. On the other hand, there isn't a straightforward relationship between the .kde/share/applnk and the menus. There's a .kde/share/applnk/John subdirectory which is named Gnome in the menus (there's no "John" submenu in any case) so some configuration information is being kept "somewhere" else. Maybe it's not wise to move the applnk files around, perhaps kmenus can't handle that properly (although the help-file indicates otherwise). I could try pruning the kde menu again, see if it works this time. Just hope this doesn't make the mess even worse. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] kde menus
No, I'm the owner of .kderc, .kde/ and its files and subdirectories. On the other hand, there isn't a straightforward relationship between the .kde/share/applnk and the menus. There's a .kde/share/applnk/John subdirectory which is named Gnome in the menus (there's no "John" It's unclear why you should have a "John" directory in the mix. Since .kde/share/applnk is derived from your home directory, there is no need to make user distinctions in the directory chain. Maybe it's not wise to move the applnk files around, perhaps kmenus can't handle that properly (although the help-file indicates otherwise). I could try pruning the kde menu again, see if it works this time. Just hope this doesn't make the mess even worse. It sounds like the directory structure has somehow gotten muddied. I don't use the KDE menus enough to modify them. I've got a few icons on the kpanel (also controlled in that same directory tree) but that's about it. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] kde menus
--- A V Flinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all has to do with the switch to the Debian menuing system in 7.1 take a peek at the entries in /etc/menu and /usr/lib/menu along with whatever is in /usr/doc/menu-2.1.5/menu.txt No, I'm using version 7.0. I did a deja-news search and someone reported that the menus would revert if you installed a new RPM file. That makes sense, kmenus doubles as an index of programs installed through rpm. You can add stuff, but if you delete anything it gets restored when you log in again. So much for your "personal" menu. I guess the best course is to put personal items on the panel. There will be a new version of KDE in 7.2 apparently, I'm looking forward to that. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
