Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 16:32, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > Personally I find k3b rock solid. > > Yikes, I have had bad system takedowns with K3B running in AUTO disk write > mode, rather than TAO or DAO right after 10 Official came out. Now its right. > > Also if you want to go down real hard, run a 2.4 kernel, and upgrade to a 2.6 > kernel. Reboot to the 2.6. If you come out alive, you are luckier than I. I > lost my whole system, no way back. > > Rob I did the better thing - I removed all but the kernel I use from the lilo menu so that I don't make any mistakes - and as well, it made a nice bit of space in the /boot partition (after I removed the kernels I don't want) - HA! (grin) stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. "You can't survive by sucking the juice from a wet mitten." -- Charles Schulz, "Things I've Had to Learn Over and Over and Over" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
> Personally I find k3b rock solid. Yikes, I have had bad system takedowns with K3B running in AUTO disk write mode, rather than TAO or DAO right after 10 Official came out. Now its right. Also if you want to go down real hard, run a 2.4 kernel, and upgrade to a 2.6 kernel. Reboot to the 2.6. If you come out alive, you are luckier than I. I lost my whole system, no way back. Rob -- Linux Desktop user since 2000, Home networker since shortly after. Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b? [SOLVED]
On Saturday 31 July 2004 10:38 am, Marco Verheul wrote: > > Thanks, it was my window manager that got stuck. Gave it a try again and > it worked like a charm! K3b moved way up in the burning business... > I guess by the time I figured out xcdroast I got stuck to it. Still like > it though, but K3b offers a better ease of use. > > Marco If you're into doing things on the CL, heres a script that someone posted a long time ago on the list. I've had no problems with it and have done a 'few' conversions. #!/bin/bash # mp32wav mp3file="$*" mkdir wav for file in "$@" ; do #echo "$file" wavfile=`echo "$file" | sed s/\\.mp3/.wav/` printf "%-50s %-50s\n" "$file" "--> $wavfile" # to encode wav-->mp3 #lame -h "$file" "$mp3file" # to encode mp3-->wav mpg123 -b 1 -s "$file" | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c2 - "wav/$wavfile" done -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 4:16pm up 4 days, 18:26, 2 users, load average: 0.63, 0.59, 0.44 Nobody's gonna believe that computers are intelligent until they start coming in late and lying about it. Live - From Virgin Radio UK Virgin Radio Classic Tracks - The original classic rock station Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b? [SOLVED]
On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 14:52, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 13:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:33, Derek Jennings wrote: > > > On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 12:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I seem to remember that I read on this list that it is possible to > > > > convert mp3 files to wav with K3b. In K3b I don't see anything in the > > > > menu's that indicates that it does. > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me how to do this? > > > > > > > > If it can't be done, what is a good alternative? > > > > > > > > Cheers, Marco > > > > > > Just create "an audio project" then drag and drop your mps3s into the > > > lower pane. > > > They will be automatically converted to wav files when you burn the CD. > > > > > > derek > > > > Derek, > > > > I did in the meantime and i figured it works that way. I was really > > started to like K3b for it, but then my pc crashed bigtime and I had > > real problems getting it to boor again. No idea what went wrong but I'm > > back again after starting up in "savemode" or something similar... > > > > Do you think this can be caused by K3b? If so, I'm back to good old > > xcdroast. > > > > Marco > > Sorry Marco, but "Linux" and "crashing" are not words I associate with each > other. > > If a user programme fails it should not affect anything other than itself, > although its possible it might make your Window Manager hang. In which case > you can normally still use a text console, or if all else fails Alt+Sysreq+r > etc (see > http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/92/en/Starter.html/troubleshooting-system-freeze.html > ) > > Personally I find k3b rock solid. > > derek Derek, Thanks, it was my window manager that got stuck. Gave it a try again and it worked like a charm! K3b moved way up in the burning business... I guess by the time I figured out xcdroast I got stuck to it. Still like it though, but K3b offers a better ease of use. Marco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 13:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:33, Derek Jennings wrote: > > On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 12:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I seem to remember that I read on this list that it is possible to > > > convert mp3 files to wav with K3b. In K3b I don't see anything in the > > > menu's that indicates that it does. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me how to do this? > > > > > > If it can't be done, what is a good alternative? > > > > > > Cheers, Marco > > > > Just create "an audio project" then drag and drop your mps3s into the > > lower pane. > > They will be automatically converted to wav files when you burn the CD. > > > > derek > > Derek, > > I did in the meantime and i figured it works that way. I was really > started to like K3b for it, but then my pc crashed bigtime and I had > real problems getting it to boor again. No idea what went wrong but I'm > back again after starting up in "savemode" or something similar... > > Do you think this can be caused by K3b? If so, I'm back to good old > xcdroast. > > Marco Sorry Marco, but "Linux" and "crashing" are not words I associate with each other. If a user programme fails it should not affect anything other than itself, although its possible it might make your Window Manager hang. In which case you can normally still use a text console, or if all else fails Alt+Sysreq+r etc (see http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/92/en/Starter.html/troubleshooting-system-freeze.html ) Personally I find k3b rock solid. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:33, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 12:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I seem to remember that I read on this list that it is possible to > > convert mp3 files to wav with K3b. In K3b I don't see anything in the > > menu's that indicates that it does. > > > > Can anyone tell me how to do this? > > > > If it can't be done, what is a good alternative? > > > > Cheers, Marco > > Just create "an audio project" then drag and drop your mps3s into the lower > pane. > They will be automatically converted to wav files when you burn the CD. > > derek > Derek, I did in the meantime and i figured it works that way. I was really started to like K3b for it, but then my pc crashed bigtime and I had real problems getting it to boor again. No idea what went wrong but I'm back again after starting up in "savemode" or something similar... Do you think this can be caused by K3b? If so, I'm back to good old xcdroast. Marco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
On Saturday 31 Jul 2004 12:16, Marco Verheul wrote: > Hi all, > > I seem to remember that I read on this list that it is possible to > convert mp3 files to wav with K3b. In K3b I don't see anything in the > menu's that indicates that it does. > > Can anyone tell me how to do this? > > If it can't be done, what is a good alternative? > > Cheers, Marco Just create "an audio project" then drag and drop your mps3s into the lower pane. They will be automatically converted to wav files when you burn the CD. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MP3 to WAV in K3b?
Hi all, I seem to remember that I read on this list that it is possible to convert mp3 files to wav with K3b. In K3b I don't see anything in the menu's that indicates that it does. Can anyone tell me how to do this? If it can't be done, what is a good alternative? Cheers, Marco -- Registered Linux user #268279 -- * Running Mandrake 10.0 / 100% Microsoft free environment * -- "This "teaching by doing" business is not unlike learning to swim by being tossed into deep, cold water, although we prefer to think of it as picking up French by visiting Paris." -- Jeffrey Zeldman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion
> r u serious? ogg actually compresses better than mp3? And it's also > free? r u serious? I mean I'm totally new to this ogg stuff. And what do Sure. Many people are saying that. I haven't done many tests to determine this for myself. For one test: -rw-r--r--1 root root 3394855 Aug 17 10:50 /tmp/18.Larger Than Life.ogg -rw-r--r--1 dfox users42693164 Aug 15 23:19 /tmp/18.Larger Than Life.wav -rw-r--r--1 root root 4717988 Aug 17 10:53 /tmp/18.Larger Than Life.wav.mp3 (from a lingering kiss alive ii wav) The ogg was encoded 'oggenc -q3 ; the mp3 was encoded . Now that's probably an unfair test since the kbps rate is seemingly lower with -q3 in ogg. And both are variable bit rate encodings. preset hifi is supposedly 160kbps. mpg123 reports the mp3 as 128kbps joint-stereo. You can see for yourself that the ogg is significantly smaller than the mp3. :) > you convert with? Rezound? Or is there some batch conversion tool/script. ogg123, oggenc etc. They should be on your distro CDs. Lyvim (whom i had a long conversation with yesterday morning) says that one can convert between the two using 'sox'. This works, and doesn't seem to take up any intervening disk space. Otherwise, I'd use a filter in a shell script. sox of course can be this filter ala: for i in *.mp3 do sox $i $i.ogg done needs some cleanup etc., and you'll probably end up with filenames ending in .mp3.ogg :) One thing - it doesn't seem that one can pass conversion specifics, like -q3 or bit rate etc. this way to the vorbis encoder. Sox uses a vorbis library only, it's a different front end than oggenc. You may need to use oggenc directly, or pipe the input from sox into oggenc (can that read from stdin? it should be able to) David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion
> Know what the best thing about ogg vorbis is when compared against mp3 > format? It's freewith no licensing issues. 'Tis true. I wonder then why there isn't more support for it in the consumer electronics arena. Does ogg take up significantly more 'oomph' (for lack of a better word) to encode/decode than mp3? Or is it that it takes up more space for the code? Maybe they can't target mp3 and ogg, and since mp3 is more common, they pick that. But mp3 support is more common. I was kinda amazed to see that there's a portable that plays mp3 cd and regular cd. I'm thinking I just might pick that thing up soon. > LX > > P.S. You can use SoX for converting from mp3 to ogg. Sure. I jsut tried it - it's as simple as saying 'sox file.mp3 file.ogg'. And you don't need space for storing the wav output file separately. Unless of course, it stores it somewhere like /tmp. For sometime, the stock version of 'sox' didn't support ogg vorbis, so that when the people started talking about recording stuff off the internet, I had to get source and enable that. But it seems that at least for cooker, the stock sox has that support built back in again. Neat... I think I'll go back to ogg for radio encoding for now then. But then usenet tends to like mp3 ;). David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 02:14, Anarky wrote: > Ralph Slooten wrote: > > >On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:17:05 +1200 > >Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? > >>Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to ogg = > >>total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. > >> > >> > > > > > >It depends how you look at it I do it all the time actually... I download > >mp3's of 192kb/s minimum, and reconvert them to quality 4 ogg format. Honestly, > >I hear no difference at all, and save about 1/2 the disk-space doing it ;-) > > > > > r u serious? ogg actually compresses better than mp3? And it's also > free? r u serious? I mean I'm totally new to this ogg stuff. And what do > you convert with? Rezound? Or is there some batch conversion tool/script. > Yes, ogg vorbis is a better format for sound files than mp3. The sound enthusiasts/experts that created the ogg vorbis format worked especially hard to address concerns that audiophiles would have with music and other things. So yes, it does have better compression than mp3, and what's more the quality of the compression is better. Sound output from an mp3 can be stored in a much smaller space using ogg vorbis format with no loss of sound quality. The converse is also true; you can store a much *greater* amount of sound quality using ogg vorbis in the same space that a given mp3 would take up. Know what the best thing about ogg vorbis is when compared against mp3 format? It's freewith no licensing issues. LX P.S. You can use SoX for converting from mp3 to ogg. -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 09:14:03 +0300 Anarky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > r u serious? ogg actually compresses better than mp3? And it's also > free? r u serious? I mean I'm totally new to this ogg stuff. And what do > you convert with? Rezound? Or is there some batch conversion tool/script. Ogg compresses better, sounds better, and is GPL 100%. http://www.phataudio.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=134&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0 The above link (copy paste onto one line) is a comparrison of OGG, MP3 and AAC formats for those intestested. As for yout batch conversion, well I wrote a bash script for that (attached). It does have it's limits, but it did the trick for my mp3's, and I still use it on a regular basis. OGG works these days with quality factors, and not bitrates like other formats. It does end up as a variable bitrate though, so it can be compared, as qualiry 4 OGG is basically 128kb/s .. which is in my experience just as good sounding as an MP3 at 192kb/s, but half the size roughly. You see, OGG is like MP3, it's an audio compression technique, but it's compression technique differs totally to that of MP3 or others. More info on ogg at www.vorbis.com Enjoy ;-) Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux" mp3conv Description: Binary data pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
Ralph Slooten wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:17:05 +1200 Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. It depends how you look at it I do it all the time actually... I download mp3's of 192kb/s minimum, and reconvert them to quality 4 ogg format. Honestly, I hear no difference at all, and save about 1/2 the disk-space doing it ;-) r u serious? ogg actually compresses better than mp3? And it's also free? r u serious? I mean I'm totally new to this ogg stuff. And what do you convert with? Rezound? Or is there some batch conversion tool/script. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion tool
> mencoder input.mpg [or .avi or .wmv] -ovc lavc -lavcopts > vcodec=mpeg4 -vop scale=640:480 -oac copy -o output.avi Let's say you want to do the reverse - avi to mpeg, for a VCD. I've been able to get DVD ripping to go to avi more or less all right, but VCD's want mpeg and it's not clear to me which filters to use. > around 20 to 25 normalized wav's to an audio CDr, 100 to 125 mp3's > to a data CDr ;) And FWIW, Sony markets a portable CD player for about $69 that plays both CDs and MP3 CD's now. I'll probably be getting one in a week or so. 60 hours of music on a portable ... neat... > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion tool
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 08:21:19PM -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Friday August 15 2003 03:47 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > Michael Adams wrote: > > >On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:02 -0400 > > > > > >Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Anarky wrote: > > >>> is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all > > >>> different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a > > >>> different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or > > >>> compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this > > >>> with some gui? > > >> > > >>Yes. > > >> > > >>http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > >Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? > > >Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from > > > wav to ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing > > > smoke. > > > > I don't believe it would accumulate like that. I think that if > > you recompress an .mp3 to another lossy file format you *may* > > have a cumulative loss of quality relative to the original > > uncompressed .wav file. I think it depends on the compression > > format that is being used on both files. > > > > If you save an .mp3 as a wav file it will have the same quality > > as the .mp3 but with a much larger file size. It will not > > increase the quality of the file. It can't get any better than > > the file from which it is created (the mp3). It will sound > > exactly the same and will take up 5, 6, 7 or more times the space > > on your hard drive depending on the bit rate of the original > > file. To get the best quality you need to create compressed > > files directly from the original wav. > > Well y'all surely got this figured better than I can. I know tho > if I take a 800mb movie an an rescale it usin > > mencoder input.mpg [or .avi or .wmv] -ovc lavc -lavcopts > vcodec=mpeg4 -vop scale=640:480 -oac copy -o output.avi > >The output.avi MB's are cut in half, the quality difference isn't > discernable. I can burn it to a CDr along with a smaller movie, > whereas before it wouldn't fit by itself. I've yet to have a need > to rescale mp3's or wav's tho. Cdr's are cheap, I already fit > around 20 to 25 normalized wav's to an audio CDr, 100 to 125 mp3's > to a data CDr ;) Have you tried vcd for video? You might get even better compression. I'm a strictly ogg operation now, and I only keep the files on my computer and CF to play through headphones on my Zaurus. I have an 8GB hard drive just for that, and I have just about my entire CD collection on it at ogg -q3. Note: some bastard(s) stole over 50 of my CDs a few years back, and I haven't even come close to replacing them what with the bastards that sell CDs charge so freakin' much. I mean, should I have to pay $20 for Larry Carlton's self-titled/Room 335 album? Plus I had two copies of one album on vinyl, then bought it on CD. (Luckily someone in a.b.ogg had that one!) Wait, I'm just rambling now . . . Honestly, I can't tell a difference between -q 3 and -q 4. Todd -- Name that tune #7: A lot of people don't have much food on their table, but they got a lot of forks and knives; well they gotta cut something. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion tool
On Friday August 15 2003 03:47 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > Michael Adams wrote: > >On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:02 -0400 > > > >Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Anarky wrote: > >>> is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all > >>> different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a > >>> different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or > >>> compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this > >>> with some gui? > >> > >>Yes. > >> > >>http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > > > >Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? > >Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from > > wav to ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing > > smoke. > > I don't believe it would accumulate like that. I think that if > you recompress an .mp3 to another lossy file format you *may* > have a cumulative loss of quality relative to the original > uncompressed .wav file. I think it depends on the compression > format that is being used on both files. > > If you save an .mp3 as a wav file it will have the same quality > as the .mp3 but with a much larger file size. It will not > increase the quality of the file. It can't get any better than > the file from which it is created (the mp3). It will sound > exactly the same and will take up 5, 6, 7 or more times the space > on your hard drive depending on the bit rate of the original > file. To get the best quality you need to create compressed > files directly from the original wav. Well y'all surely got this figured better than I can. I know tho if I take a 800mb movie an an rescale it usin mencoder input.mpg [or .avi or .wmv] -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 -vop scale=640:480 -oac copy -o output.avi The output.avi MB's are cut in half, the quality difference isn't discernable. I can burn it to a CDr along with a smaller movie, whereas before it wouldn't fit by itself. I've yet to have a need to rescale mp3's or wav's tho. Cdr's are cheap, I already fit around 20 to 25 normalized wav's to an audio CDr, 100 to 125 mp3's to a data CDr ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:17:05 +1200 Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? > Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to ogg = > total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. It depends how you look at it I do it all the time actually... I download mp3's of 192kb/s minimum, and reconvert them to quality 4 ogg format. Honestly, I hear no difference at all, and save about 1/2 the disk-space doing it ;-) Oooh, Ahh, I hear it already, "yes but have you really listened to it" .. the answer is yes. I have an expensive headset with great qualiry sound, and my computer is also hooked up to our sterio, and neither of them are bad-sounding at all in any way. The few cases I have noticed where the audio was bad, was simply due to a crap mp3 encoder, and even though those files were 192, they sucked themselves, and of course if the origional sucks, then the converted will too. I wrote a script to convert mp3's to ogg's, and would be more than willing to send it to anyone asking for it. Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ "...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux" pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
Michael Adams wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:02 -0400 Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anarky wrote: is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this with some gui? Yes. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. I don't believe it would accumulate like that. I think that if you recompress an .mp3 to another lossy file format you *may* have a cumulative loss of quality relative to the original uncompressed .wav file. I think it depends on the compression format that is being used on both files. If you save an .mp3 as a wav file it will have the same quality as the .mp3 but with a much larger file size. It will not increase the quality of the file. It can't get any better than the file from which it is created (the mp3). It will sound exactly the same and will take up 5, 6, 7 or more times the space on your hard drive depending on the bit rate of the original file. To get the best quality you need to create compressed files directly from the original wav. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkcustom KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversion tool
On Friday 15 Aug 2003 9:17 pm, Michael Adams wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:02 -0400 > > Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anarky wrote: > > >is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all > > > different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different > > > bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is > > > there like an unified toool like this with some gui? > > > > Yes. > > > > http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > > Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? > Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to > ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. One more loss and you'd be losing 125% I think it's better than that. Something better than geometric, probably. 0.95*0.95 = 90%, or 10% loss. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
Anarky wrote: Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Anarky wrote: is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this with some gui? Yes. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ thanks ... this seems to be a music making tool ... if there are more music making tools on linux I'd love to know about them .. but anyway ... isn't there a tool meant more for graphical file conversion? This is a tool for editing audio files. What kind of program did you want? Didn't you ask for an audio tool? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkcustom KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:36:02 -0400 Brant Fitzsimmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anarky wrote: > > >is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all different > > stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different > > bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is > > there like an unified toool like this with some gui? > > > Yes. > > http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ > Wouldn't this be accumulating losses exponentially? Like 5% loss in original mp3. Convert to wav then 5% loss from wav to ogg = total loss of 25%. Of course i may be blowing smoke. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Anarky wrote: is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this with some gui? Yes. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ thanks ... this seems to be a music making tool ... if there are more music making tools on linux I'd love to know about them .. but anyway ... isn't there a tool meant more for graphical file conversion? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav to ogg to mp3 different bitrate conversiontool
Anarky wrote: is there like a audio conversion tool that can handle all different stuff like this (like saving as an mp3 with a different bitrate/stereo/mono, converting to wave, or compressing back)? Is there like an unified toool like this with some gui? Yes. http://rezound.sourceforge.net/ -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkcustom KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
On Friday 30 May 2003 10:15 am, Benjamin Jeeves said,: > Hi all > > is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? > > > Thank You > > Benjamin Below is a little script that was provided to me by 'bones' earlier this year. I've been using it and have't had any problems. Hope this helps. - For converting mp3 to wav, here is some little script. (it's an early one so don't judge me by it - it's patchwork from others scripts, but it did it for me) You need mpg123 and sox installed (which I guess is pretty much standard). Put it into a text file and make it executable with 'chmod u+x mp32wav' and move it into /usr/bin or something in your PATH. If you start the script with "mp32wav *.mp3" in a folder with mp3s or from the Nautilus script folder) it creates a subfolder "wav" and converts all mp3 into wav files with the same name exept '.mp3' becomes '.wav' --- #!/bin/bash # mp32wav mp3file="$*" mkdir wav for file in "$@" ; do #echo "$file" wavfile=`echo "$file" | sed s/\\.mp3/.wav/` printf "%-50s %-50s\n" "$file" "--> $wavfile" # to encode wav-->mp3 #lame -h "$file" "$mp3file" # to encode mp3-->wav mpg123 -b 1 -s "$file" | sox -t raw -r 44100 -s -w -c2 - "wav/$wavfile" done --- -- Regards Chris Registered Linux user #283774 @ http://counter.li.org 7:18pm up 8 days, 23:18, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
On Friday May 30 2003 10:15 am, Benjamin Jeeves wrote: > Hi all > > is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? > Thank You > > Benjamin Several, but my preference is to use xmms. Install the xmms-diskwriter rpm appropriate for your xmms version (it's on your CD's) and then select it, and configure it where to write the wav's to. FWIW, I created /home/tom/wav/ and write the wav's to there. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
On Friday 30 May 2003 08:15 am, Benjamin Jeeves wrote: > Hi all > > is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? It can be done in a graphical environment using Audacity, but I have never reseached what application actually does the conversion. There must be one. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
On Fri, 30 May 2003 15:15:06 + Benjamin Jeeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Hi all > > is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? > > the lame encoder-decoder will do that, you can get lame plugins for various apps I believe, like grip or xmms to decode mp3. http://lame.sourceforge.net/ -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 See where I sit all day: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:14:49 up 2 days, 23:37, 5 users, load average: 0.50, 0.13, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mp3 to wav
> Hi all > > is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? > > > Thank You > > Benjamin Try the diskwriter plugin for xmms. --- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mp3 to wav
Hi all is there a tool for converting mp3 to wav format ? Thank You Benjamin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV
On Monday 18 March 2002 4:28 am, you wrote: > Guilherme Cirne wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know an easy way to do a batch conversion of mp3 files to wav > > files. For example, I want to easily convert all the mp3 files in one > > directory to wav files, keeping the same filename (only changing the > > extension from .mp3 to .wav). Using mpg123 -w ~/tmp/*.wav ~/tmp/*.mp3 > > doesn't work, since it reads all the mp3 files and outputs just one big > > wav file with the name *.wav. > > > > Any help is welcome. > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Use XMMS. Change the output plugin to Diskwriter. Thanks, that did the trick! -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to WAV
Guilherme Cirne wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know an easy way to do a batch conversion of mp3 files to wav > files. For example, I want to easily convert all the mp3 files in one > directory to wav files, keeping the same filename (only changing the > extension from .mp3 to .wav). Using mpg123 -w ~/tmp/*.wav ~/tmp/*.mp3 doesn't > work, since it reads all the mp3 files and outputs just one big wav file with > the name *.wav. > > Any help is welcome. > > TIA, > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Use XMMS. Change the output plugin to Diskwriter. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MP3 to WAV
Hi, Does anyone know an easy way to do a batch conversion of mp3 files to wav files. For example, I want to easily convert all the mp3 files in one directory to wav files, keeping the same filename (only changing the extension from .mp3 to .wav). Using mpg123 -w ~/tmp/*.wav ~/tmp/*.mp3 doesn't work, since it reads all the mp3 files and outputs just one big wav file with the name *.wav. Any help is welcome. TIA, -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
Jon Doe escribió: > On Wednesday 31 January 2001 08:02 pm, Sevatio Octavio loudly grumbled: > > You can use XMMS. Go to Preferences; output Plugins; Select "Diskwriter > > Plugin"; configure it for a location to put your created wav files. > > > > Seve > > Ok, done. Now what? > I don't see anything on Xmms to record or anything. Once you've followed the instructions above just select the MP3s you want to burn and press the play button. They will be put as .wav in the destination directory... -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
Jon Doe escribió: > How do I change MP3 files to .wav format so I can burn them to cd? > What programs and front ends are there for this process? Use xmms. Options... preferences... output plugin... Disk writer plugin -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
RE: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
Yes, only if you specify that it will be an audio CD. If not, it'll be a data CD with wav files. Hugo >-Original Message- >From: hellmut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:59 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav? > > >But when you burn a wav file to a CD it will be written in a >way that a CD >player can read it, I've tried it out! > > > >> Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The music on a >normal CD is in >> raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like your CD >player will be able >> to read it anyway... >> >> Dave > >-- > , > > (o o) > +--oOOO--(_)---+ > | | > |H E L L M U T | > | | > | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | > | | > +-0OOO-+ > | _ | _ | >| | | | >| | | | >ooO Ooo > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
But when you burn a wav file to a CD it will be written in a way that a CD player can read it, I've tried it out! > Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The music on a normal CD is in > raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like your CD player will be able > to read it anyway... > > Dave -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
this has been a very informative discussion, i have learned much, thanks to all who contribute. this is a great community. Todd Flinders wrote: > No, no, no!!! > > Your CD players does NOT play .wav!! Your burning > software knows to convert .wav to the proper format! > > You need to convert your .mp3 to a .wav so that the > burning software can burn the audio CD. If you tell > your burning software that you are burning a data > disc, then you will get a CD with .wav files. It will > be as any other data file and it will NOT play in your > car stereo (or it will play as static). If you tell > the burning software you are burning an AUDIO disc, > the .wavs will be converted and you will burn TRACKS > that WILL play in your car stereo. Looking at this CD > will reveal that you do NOT have .wavs on this AUDIO > CD. > > --- Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > CD players do read .wav music. Don't ask me the > technicality's of it, but I > have made many CD's by burning .wav files onto a CDR > and they play just fine > in my computer's CD-Rom drive and my parents stereo. > > > Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The > music on a normal CD is in > raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like > your CD player will be able > to read it anyway... > > Dave > > At 01:02 AM 02/01/2001 +, you wrote: > You can use XMMS. Go to Preferences; output > Plugins; Select "Diskwriter > Plugin"; configure it for a location to put your > created wav files. > > Seve > > Original Message > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 1/31/01, 4:43:44 PM, Jon Doe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding > > [newbie] MP3 to .wav?: > How do I change MP3 files to .wav format so I > can burn them to cd? > What programs and front ends are there for > this process? > -- > Registered Linux User #181996 > > Dave Sherman > SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid > quid latine dictum sit, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > altum viditur." > (763) 569-9839 > > -- > Anthony > http://binaryfusion.net > Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit. > > > __ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 03:43 pm, regarding [newbie] MP3 to .wav?, you said: > How do I change MP3 files to .wav format so I can burn them to cd? > What programs and front ends are there for this process? I could not believe how, when I installed the latest version of gtoaster, the default for burning audio cd's was making .wav files out of mp3 files. I haven't stopped burning yet! I love linux! -- -michael-
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
On Thursday 01 February 2001 08:47 pm, Dave Sherman loudly grumbled: > Hmm. Well, I guess I stand corrected. Thanks for the info. > > Dave > > On Thursday 01 February 2001 16:22, you wrote: > > CD players do read .wav music. Don't ask me the technicality's of it, > > but I have made many CD's by burning .wav files onto a CDR and they > > play just fine in my computer's CD-Rom drive and my parents stereo. > > > > > Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The music on a normal > > > CD is in raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like your CD > > > player will be able to read it anyway... > > > > > > Dave Ok, who cares what format it has to be in, how do I do it? How do I convert mp3 files to burn to CD so they will play in a normal non-mp3 compatable cd player? -- Registered Linux User #181996
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
No, no, no!!! Your CD players does NOT play .wav!! Your burning software knows to convert .wav to the proper format! You need to convert your .mp3 to a .wav so that the burning software can burn the audio CD. If you tell your burning software that you are burning a data disc, then you will get a CD with .wav files. It will be as any other data file and it will NOT play in your car stereo (or it will play as static). If you tell the burning software you are burning an AUDIO disc, the .wavs will be converted and you will burn TRACKS that WILL play in your car stereo. Looking at this CD will reveal that you do NOT have .wavs on this AUDIO CD. --- Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CD players do read .wav music. Don't ask me the > technicality's of it, but I > have made many CD's by burning .wav files onto a CDR > and they play just fine > in my computer's CD-Rom drive and my parents stereo. > > > > Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The > music on a normal CD is in > > raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like > your CD player will be able > > to read it anyway... > > > > Dave > > > > At 01:02 AM 02/01/2001 +, you wrote: > > >You can use XMMS. Go to Preferences; output > Plugins; Select "Diskwriter > > >Plugin"; configure it for a location to put your > created wav files. > > > > > >Seve > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > >On 1/31/01, 4:43:44 PM, Jon Doe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding > > > > > >[newbie] MP3 to .wav?: > > > > How do I change MP3 files to .wav format so I > can burn them to cd? > > > > What programs and front ends are there for > this process? > > > > -- > > > > Registered Linux User #181996 > > > > Dave Sherman > > SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid > quid latine dictum sit, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > altum viditur." > > (763) 569-9839 > > -- > Anthony > http://binaryfusion.net > Press any key to continue, or any other key to quit. > __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
gee... I have added *.wav files to audio CDs I was burning for my daughter and here friends and they were able to catch the jokes the wave files contained. (nothing like a loud "buurrp" after track three, I always say.) - Original Message - From: "Dave Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav? > Why would you want to convert them to .wav? The music on a normal CD is in > raw digital format, not .wav, so it's not like your CD player will be able > to read it anyway... > > Dave > > At 01:02 AM 02/01/2001 +, you wrote: > >You can use XMMS. Go to Preferences; output Plugins; Select "Diskwriter > >Plugin"; configure it for a location to put your created wav files. > > > >Seve > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > >On 1/31/01, 4:43:44 PM, Jon Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding > >[newbie] MP3 to .wav?: > > > > > > > How do I change MP3 files to .wav format so I can burn them to cd? > > > What programs and front ends are there for this process? > > > -- > > > Registered Linux User #181996 > > Dave Sherman > SoftServ Business Systems, Inc."Quid quid latine dictum sit, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] altum viditur." > (763) 569-9839 > > >
Re: [newbie] MP3 to .wav?
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 08:02 pm, Sevatio Octavio loudly grumbled: > You can use XMMS. Go to Preferences; output Plugins; Select "Diskwriter > Plugin"; configure it for a location to put your created wav files. > > Seve Ok, done. Now what? I don't see anything on Xmms to record or anything. -- Registered Linux User #181996
