Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 17:35, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 04:21, Merlin Zener wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:22, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 08 October 2003 06:41 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but There is a prebuilt package for dia in the Mandrake distribution. Just use rpmdrake or urpmi from the command line to install it. # urpmi dia installing /mnt/dist/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dia-0.90-5mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:dia## I tried that, but it just hangs. ctrl-z, ctrl-c, q, exit, nothing seems to bring it back to life. I have to shut down the terminal window and log back in again. wait 30 mins, and see if you don't have some further info on screen, and the problem will be gone, and the software installed Hi Ed, thanks for your reply. weird - I just tried it again, and immediately I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi dia everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# yet I can't find it in the start menu or on the desktop. Trying to start it from within the terminal gets this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ dia-0.91 bash: dia-0.91: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ cd dia-0.91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ dia-0.91 bash: dia-0.91: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ I wonder, would it have installed itself somewhere else, and maybe I have to start it from there??? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
Merlin Zener wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 17:35, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 04:21, Merlin Zener wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:22, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 08 October 2003 06:41 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but There is a prebuilt package for dia in the Mandrake distribution. Just use rpmdrake or urpmi from the command line to install it. # urpmi dia installing /mnt/dist/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dia-0.90-5mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:dia## I tried that, but it just hangs. ctrl-z, ctrl-c, q, exit, nothing seems to bring it back to life. I have to shut down the terminal window and log back in again. wait 30 mins, and see if you don't have some further info on screen, and the problem will be gone, and the software installed Hi Ed, thanks for your reply. weird - I just tried it again, and immediately I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi dia everything already installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# yet I can't find it in the start menu or on the desktop. Trying to start it from within the terminal gets this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ dia-0.91 bash: dia-0.91: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]$ cd dia-0.91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ dia-0.91 bash: dia-0.91: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ You only need to type dia, like this, I wonder, would it have installed itself somewhere else, and maybe I have to start it from there??? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# dia and up she comes. as for start menu entry, go to, MCC-System-Menudrake and add an entry in Kstartmenu, or call menudrake like this, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# menudrake best to make entries in menudrake for system wide use as root. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Saturday 11 Oct 2003 10:23 am, Merlin Zener wrote: SNIP Thanks again for the information, Derek. it brings up a couple of interesting points: first, I only have two CDs; I got them with APC magazine in Australia. Anyway, you're right I looked in Konquerer and dia-0.90 *is* on CD2 - so this brings up the next puzzle: Why didn't find find it? I just tried it again with the same result - I clicked the K button, what to do, then find files. Then typed dia [without quotes, of course] in the named box, and browsed to /mnt/cdrom. Find then returns 0 files found. Curious... btw the only reason I didn't go ahead and double click on it in Konquerer right then was because it's ver0.90, and I've downloaded 0.91. If I don't have any luck with getting 0.91 working then this will be the fallback. So, the next step: [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable:///mnt/cdrom using different removable device [/dev/scd0] for Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1) using different removable device [/dev/scd0] for Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2) copying hdlists file... ...copying done medium Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1) already exists [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# yet, rpmdrake still doesn't acknowledge that dia exists. Strange... Now we are getting to the root of your problem. Since you installed your system you have changed your CD-ROM to scsi, without having updated your urpmi sources. Hence the messages about using a different device. Now the reason you cannot find dia in the software list is because it is already installed. (as you mentioned in your mail to Bryan) If you look in the *un*install GUI you will find it. You were unable to start dia from the terminal because you used the wrong command. You entered 'dia-0.90' when the command to start dia is just 'dia'. Now as for dia not being in your menu. I have checked the dia RPM and it puts a menu entry in OfficeGraphs If it is not there run menudrake as your user and make sure your MenuStyle is set to 'System Menu' exit menudrake then in a user terminal enter update-menus That will remake your menus for you. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0100 DJ wrote: IF I can jump in here I'm trying to add my CDROMs (powerpack 9.1) to the software sources |To do that from Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareSoftware Source |Manager select all the entries for your CDs and delete them. Close the |GUI | |Insert CD1 into your CD drive (which I assume is /mnt/cdrom) | |Now open a terminal. Enter su to become root user |urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable:///mnt/cdrom Should there be three /s there? In either case (one or two /s) I get: unable to access first installation medium I did enable scsi emulation and changed /etc/fstab to reflect /dev/scd1 mounted at /mnt/cdrom Is there something else I need to change? |That will automatically insert all 3 CDs into the list of sources and |you should then be able to use rpmdrake to install dia and lots of |other applications. Is there another command to add Cds 4,5,6, 7? Thanks, Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Saturday 11 October 2003 16:47, C. Tresenriter wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:00:11 +0100 DJ wrote: IF I can jump in here I'm trying to add my CDROMs (powerpack 9.1) to the software sources |To do that from Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareSoftware Source |Manager select all the entries for your CDs and delete them. Close the |GUI | |Insert CD1 into your CD drive (which I assume is /mnt/cdrom) | |Now open a terminal. Enter su to become root user |urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable:///mnt/cdrom Should there be three /s there? In either case (one or two /s) I get: unable to access first installation medium I did enable scsi emulation and changed /etc/fstab to reflect /dev/scd1 mounted at /mnt/cdrom Is there something else I need to change? |That will automatically insert all 3 CDs into the list of sources and |you should then be able to use rpmdrake to install dia and lots of |other applications. Is there another command to add Cds 4,5,6, 7? Thanks, Curt You have to specify the RPMSx directory (where x is the number i.e. removable://mnt/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMSx with ../synthesishdlist.cz good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:14:47 +0200 HJB wrote: |You have to specify the RPMSx directory (where x is the number i.e. |removable://mnt/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMSx with ../synthesishdlist.cz | |good luck, |HarM Ahhh... Thanks HarM! good to know. curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:32, julian wrote: [...snip] thanks for the explanations, Julian. picking up the process where the trouble starts: ./configure (this prepares for the actual build. It may fail if you don't have the particular software development packages that it needs installed. If this happens you need to install those packages and run ./configure again) Here's what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr//bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing checking for working autoconf... missing checking for working automake-1.4... missing checking for working autoheader... missing checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no checking for cc... no checking for cl... no configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ so now I need to go through and install each of those 5 lines with the word working in them? What about the gcc, cc and cl - are they programs I have to install too? And those last 2 lines make me wonder too: does Mandrake come with a C compiler already installed? I had a look in config.log but as far as I can see it only has some entries about LICQ, nothing about dia-0.91. Should I post it here? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
- Original Message - From: Merlin Zener [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:32, julian wrote: [...snip] thanks for the explanations, Julian. picking up the process where the trouble starts: ./configure (this prepares for the actual build. It may fail if you don't have the particular software development packages that it needs installed. If this happens you need to install those packages and run ./configure again) Here's what I got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr//bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing checking for working autoconf... missing checking for working automake-1.4... missing checking for working autoheader... missing checking for working makeinfo... found checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no checking for cc... no checking for cl... no configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH See `config.log' for more details. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ so now I need to go through and install each of those 5 lines with the word working in them? What about the gcc, cc and cl - are they programs I have to install too? And those last 2 lines make me wonder too: does Mandrake come with a C compiler already installed? I had a look in config.log but as far as I can see it only has some entries about LICQ, nothing about dia-0.91. Should I post it here? gcc is a compiler needed to compile a program from scratch, as you are trying to do. just type 'urpmi gcc' as root and it should install most of the necessary stuff. note: it needs sources for the install files, and the easiest way to add sources is by following the instructions at http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php oh, btw, if you added sources properly, you can try 'urpmi dia' and it'll prolly install a version of dia suitable for the mandrake you're using. hope this helps. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:35, Derek Jennings wrote: [...snip] Merlin If you want to install dia just Open your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareManagementSoftware Install and type dia in the search box . You will find it is already on your CDs Hi Derek, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't find it in there: there are only three results that come up: DansGuardian, diald and kdemultimedia-devel. I also tried searching directly on the CDs using find files and came up empty. I have Mandrake 9.0 - perhaps you have a later version? [...snip] While it is fun and a great learning experience to compile your own code, it is not actually necessary nowdays. There are a gazillion precompiled packages for Mandrake easily available. Quite a lot of them are on your CDs. What I'm looking for is something that will let me make simple drawings of boxes [and basic shapes] with text in them, and lines and arrows going from the boxes to other boxes. Like: source --- preamp --- EQ --- line mixer +--- out 1 | +--- out 2 etc. Can anyone offer any suggestions? -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:22, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 08 October 2003 06:41 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but There is a prebuilt package for dia in the Mandrake distribution. Just use rpmdrake or urpmi from the command line to install it. # urpmi dia installing /mnt/dist/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dia-0.90-5mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:dia## I tried that, but it just hangs. ctrl-z, ctrl-c, q, exit, nothing seems to bring it back to life. I have to shut down the terminal window and log back in again. -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Friday 10 Oct 2003 9:12 am, Merlin Zener wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 06:35, Derek Jennings wrote: [...snip] Merlin If you want to install dia just Open your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareManagementSoftware Install and type dia in the search box . You will find it is already on your CDs Hi Derek, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't find it in there: there are only three results that come up: DansGuardian, diald and kdemultimedia-devel. I also tried searching directly on the CDs using find files and came up empty. I have Mandrake 9.0 - perhaps you have a later version? Merlin dia-0.90-2mdk.rpm is on CD2 of Mandrake 9.0 (I just checked) So either you do not have the 2nd CD, or else your CD sources are screwed up in Rpmdrake. You could either just insert CD2 and install dia by clicking on the RPM with konqueror, or else you could reset your CD sources in Rpmdrake. To do that from Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareSoftware Source Manager select all the entries for your CDs and delete them. Close the GUI Insert CD1 into your CD drive (which I assume is /mnt/cdrom) Now open a terminal. Enter su to become root user urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable:///mnt/cdrom That will automatically insert all 3 CDs into the list of sources and you should then be able to use rpmdrake to install dia and lots of other applications. BTW: If you do not yet know how to copy/paste in Linux see here http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/modules.php?name=Sectionsop=viewarticleartid=7 derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 04:21, Merlin Zener wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 08:22, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 08 October 2003 06:41 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but There is a prebuilt package for dia in the Mandrake distribution. Just use rpmdrake or urpmi from the command line to install it. # urpmi dia installing /mnt/dist/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dia-0.90-5mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:dia## I tried that, but it just hangs. ctrl-z, ctrl-c, q, exit, nothing seems to bring it back to life. I have to shut down the terminal window and log back in again. wait 30 mins, and see if you don't have some further info on screen, and the problem will be gone, and the software installed -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
Hi, I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but just right now I can't seem to find it. Not looking in the right help file or man page, I guess. I did google on install and install problems and such, came across a couple of pages but nothing that actually explain what to do when it doesn't work. I'm trying to install a program to do some basic diagrams of PA systems etc - it's called dia-0.91. The instructions say: INSTALL: install it by doing: make install but all I get when I try that is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# I tried pasting that error message into google.com/linux but I only found some discussions about problem with other programs. I tried man make but it says I should just have to type make by itself, and it should suffice. It goes on to say that make will look for a makefile - and I can see in Konquerer there are 3: makefile.am, makefile.in and makefile.msc. They're right there in the same directory I'm in. I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but I entered SU and the root password and tried again with the same result. I'm beginning to think there's something basic broken on my system - the simplest little things don't seem to work for me - things you guys seem to take for granted. like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami bash: whereami: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ urpmi bash: urpmi: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path bash: path: command not found and there's a bunch of others too, I just can't think of them atm. btw when you download something and then [try to] install it, where are you supposed to install it to? TIA -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
Hi, I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but just right now I can't seem to find it. Not looking in the right nelp file or man page, I guess. I did google on install and install problems and such, came across a couple of pages but nothing that actually explain what to do when it doesn't work. I'm trying to install a program to do some basic diagrams of PA systems etc - it's called dia-0.91. The instructions say: INSTALL: install it by doing: make install but all I get when I try that is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but I entered SU and the root password and tried again with the same result. I'm beginning to think there's something basic broken on my system - the simplest little things don't seem to work for me - things you guys seem to take for granted. like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami bash: whereami: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# and there's a bunch of others too, I just can't think of them atm. btw when you download something and then [try to] install it, where are you supposed to install it to? TIA -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 05:41, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, [...snip] sorry about the duplicate. I had the half-finished version in the outbox, edited it then sent it, but then it seems it [Evolution] didn't delete the original version... ??? It's been that kind of day... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 23:37, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but just right now I can't seem to find it. Not looking in the right help file or man page, I guess. I did google on install and install problems and such, came across a couple of pages but nothing that actually explain what to do when it doesn't work. I'm trying to install a program to do some basic diagrams of PA systems etc - it's called dia-0.91. The instructions say: INSTALL: install it by doing: make install but all I get when I try that is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# I tried pasting that error message into google.com/linux but I only found some discussions about problem with other programs. I tried man make but it says I should just have to type make by itself, and it should suffice. It goes on to say that make will look for a makefile - and I can see in Konquerer there are 3: makefile.am, makefile.in and makefile.msc. They're right there in the same directory I'm in. I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but I entered SU and the root password and tried again with the same result. I'm beginning to think there's something basic broken on my system - the simplest little things don't seem to work for me - things you guys seem to take for granted. like: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami bash: whereami: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ urpmi bash: urpmi: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path bash: path: command not found and there's a bunch of others too, I just can't think of them atm. btw when you download something and then [try to] install it, where are you supposed to install it to? I just took a look. What you downloaded is the source code for the program. The program needs to be built (aka compiled) and then installed. As you have not done the building bit, there is nothing for make install to do. You'll get a better explaination of this here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html To build and install the program, I did: tar -jxvf dia-0.91.tar.bz2 (this extracts it) cd dia-0.91 (enter the directory) ./configure (this prepares for the actual build. It may fail if you don't have the particular software development packages that it needs installed. If this happens you need to install those packages and run ./configure again) make (this runs the source through the compiler) make install (installs the programs you just made you should be su for this bit) Different programs install to different places. Hopefully the place will be in your path and so you will be able to run it. If you scroll through the text created by make install you should see where it went (looks like most went into usr/local/share). To see your path you can use: echo $PATH To change the path you can use export PATH=/wherever:/and/here which would overwrite your current path to contain just those two locations /wherever and /and/here. Colons separate the path locations. I echo the current path, and then rewrite the whole thing with whatever I'm adding to it. There must be more crafty techniques, but I'm a newbie... I dont know about whereami but pwd shows the Present Working Directory - where you are. I found that by accident when I didn't type passwd. cron doesn't work for me at the prompt either. However it is running as a service (look in the services in the control centre), and the command crontab does work. I don't know anything about cron yet... Oh, dia works for me. Whatever it is. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Wednesday 08 Oct 2003 11:37 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: Hi, I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but just right now I can't seem to find it. Not looking in the right help file or man page, I guess. I did google on install and install problems and such, came across a couple of pages but nothing that actually explain what to do when it doesn't work. I'm trying to install a program to do some basic diagrams of PA systems etc - it's called dia-0.91. The instructions say: INSTALL: install it by doing: make install but all I get when I try that is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# make install make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# I tried pasting that error message into google.com/linux but I only found some discussions about problem with other programs. I tried man make but it says I should just have to type make by itself, and it should suffice. It goes on to say that make will look for a makefile - and I can see in Konquerer there are 3: makefile.am, makefile.in and makefile.msc. They're right there in the same directory I'm in. I thought it might be some kind of permissions problem, but I entered SU and the root password and tried again with the same result. I'm beginning to think there's something basic broken on my system - the simplest little things don't seem to work for me - things you guys seem to take for granted. like: and there's a bunch of others too, I just can't think of them atm. btw when you download something and then [try to] install it, where are you supposed to install it to? TIA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path bash: path: command not found Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Merlin If you want to install dia just Open your Mandrake Control CentreSoftwareManagementSoftware Install and type dia in the search box . You will find it is already on your CDs As for your other questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami bash: whereami: command not found That is not any command I am aware of. Do you mean 'whoami' or 'whereis' ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron bash: cron: command not found cron is not a command. The crond daemon is a process that runs continupusly to run scheduled jobs. To configure it use webmin. (To use webmin install the webmin RPM then https://localhost:1 in a browser ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ urpmi bash: urpmi: command not found urpmi *is* a command, but you have to be root user to use it. To become root user enter the command 'su' followed by root password when prompted. But why not just use the Software Manager GUI instead? It is the same thing. Just more newbie friendly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path bash: path: command not found path is not a command either. It is an environment variable which determines which directories are searched for a command. To view your path enter echo $PATH But why should a newbie care about their PATH variable? I never look at mine. I would *not* recommend a newbie to download and compile their own source code without a bit of Linux experience under their belt. Do you compile your own Windows applications? While it is fun and a great learning experience to compile your own code, it is not actually necessary nowdays. There are a gazillion precompiled packages for Mandrake easily available. Quite a lot of them are on your CDs. HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
Hallo Merlin On 9 Oct 2003 05:37:44 (my local time 00:37:44), Merlin Zener wrote: MZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]# whereami MZ bash: whereami: command not found This should be 'whoami' MZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] merlin]# cron MZ bash: cron: command not found This should be 'crontab' MZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ urpmi MZ bash: urpmi: command not found urpmi is only executable for the root-user, any other user will get that exact error. MZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] dia-0.91]$ path MZ bash: path: command not found path is a system-variable, I think you mean the command 'pwd' here. hth! -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum Antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen I have just as much authority as the Pope; I just don't have as many people who believe it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] newbie trouble with installing a program
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 06:41 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: I'm guessing I'm probably missing something obvious and basic here, but There is a prebuilt package for dia in the Mandrake distribution. Just use rpmdrake or urpmi from the command line to install it. # urpmi dia installing /mnt/dist/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dia-0.90-5mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:dia## -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
