Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
Oops! I guess I forgot (or, perhaps more honestly, never really noticed) that I got that plugin from another source. At any rate, it's a must-have. ;) Sorry for the confusion. Marv -- Help in the research to fight devastating diseases like Huntington's, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's-- donate your computer's leisure time to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/ -- The best way to accelerate a Windows box is at 9.8 meters per second per second. Carl J. Bauman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:37 -0500 Carl J. Bauman wrote: Thanks, Marv. Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that you mentioned does not seem to exist on my system. I'm now running Xfce 4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's at http://www.eslrahc.com. You need to install xfce-minicmd-plugin which is available from 10.0 contrib I will state again I do not include rpms on my site which already exist in a current mdk rpm repository Charles O! The light dawns. I guess this means I should go ahead and configure a contrib media source... Thanks, Charles. Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 10:40, Josenildo Marques wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 18:08, Richard Urwin wrote: My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. You'll soon wonder how you survived without it. Do you mean the Gnome command line applet ? How can you do that ? I tried to find it, but I can't find out its 'real' name. NO - there is a panel plugin for XFCE that you can get from the goodies page... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Largest Number of Driving Test Failures By April 1970 Mrs. Miriam Hargrave had failed her test thirty-nine times. In the eight preceding years she had received two hundred and twelve driving lessons at a cost of L300. She set the new record while driving triumphantly through a set of red traffic lights in Wakefield, Yorkshire. Disappointingly, she passed at the fortieth attempt (3 August 1970) but eight years later she showed some of her old magic when she was reported as saying that she still didn't like doing right-hand turns. -- Stephen Pile, The Book of Heroic Failures Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right-click on the Xfce4 panel, slide up to 'Add new item', and select 'Mini Command Line'. It'll put a little textbox in your panel for issuing commands. Thanks, Marv. Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that you mentioned does not seem to exist on my system. I'm now running Xfce 4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's at http://www.eslrahc.com. Thanks again, Carl Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:37 -0500 Carl J. Bauman wrote: Thanks, Marv. Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that you mentioned does not seem to exist on my system. I'm now running Xfce 4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's at http://www.eslrahc.com. You need to install xfce-minicmd-plugin which is available from 10.0 contrib I will state again I do not include rpms on my site which already exist in a current mdk rpm repository Charles -- You've been leading a dog's life. Stay off the furniture. - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.5-1.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 5:20 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be the same as your KDE or Gnome menus Hi Joe, I didn't find this to be true in my case. I'm running Mandrake 10.0 and, since I was having trouble with urpmi in general at the time, I installed xfce4 from sources. Is there a way to add my KDE menus to the desktop menu, short of manually adding everything to menu.xml? I didn't see anything mentioned in the online manual. If you install from Charles' source the Mandrake menu appears as on entry in the right click menu. You'll have to ask him how he did it though if you want to stick with the compiled version. My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. You'll soon wonder how you survived without it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 07:08, Richard Urwin wrote: If you install from Charles' source the Mandrake menu appears as on entry in the right click menu. You'll have to ask him how he did it though if you want to stick with the compiled version. My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. You'll soon wonder how you survived without it. MenuMaker-0.17 Find it at SourceForge.net Very simple to setup. Else you can manually edit the /usr/local/etc/xfce4/menu.xml stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- 'Detectoring is like gambling,' said Vimes, putting down the clove. 'The secret is to know the winner in advance.' (Jingo) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 05:39:32 -0500 mdk n00b disseminated the following: looks like if i still everything but devel i should be ok ? Easiest way to install XFCE4 is through Charles' site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ Just add his repository as a source, then: urpmi xfce4 how would i switch from Gnome to xfce4 and from xfce4 back to Gnome by only using startx ? Two ways to do this. IIRC, you can start XFCE from a text login with 'startxfce4', but you can also start it with 'startx' if you have an ~/.xinitrc like so: xfce-mcs-manager xfwm4 --daemon xftaskbar4 xfdesktop exec xfce4-panel #exec gnome-session Notice that the last line is commented out, that way if you want to go back to Gnome, you just reverse the comments. As always, there are even more ways to do this, like create scripts for each WM/DE you use in ~/bin, then have an ~/xinitrc like so: exec ~/bin/xfce4 #exec ~/bin/gnome #exec ~/bin/pekwm Then 'startx' will load whatever is *not* commented out. More about this on Todd Slater's site: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ i dont want to use a display manager to login. Good for you! The best way to go, IMNSHO. and i'm not entirely sure i will stay with xfce. I'm bettin' you will. It has all the 'cool shit' you want, much more customizable, and very light on resources. You will *not* regret it. 'Sides, any 'problems' you have, there are several XFCE users on here who would be more than happy to help out. also, can i run Gnome Terminal from xfce ? this might come off as odd but i happen to like that terminal alot. You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be the same as your KDE or Gnome menus, and of course you can add launchers to the panel for whatever apps you use the most. -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold... -- William Butler Yeats Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
installed. Easiest way to install XFCE4 is through Charles' site: http://www.eslrahc.com/ would i switch from Gnome to xfce4 and from xfce4 back to Gnome by only using startx ? 'startxfce4', but you can also start it with 'startx' if you have an ~/.xinitrc like so: xfce-mcs-manager xfwm4 --daemon xftaskbar4 xfdesktop exec xfce4-panel #exec gnome-session ok i did that. it launched and i see the panel at the top. that was my only noticable difference than using startxfce4. also my wheel mouse causes things to move left to right instead of up and down. annoying :( when i said i wanted to change default browser to Epiphany that was for right click menu and the middle aligned dock at the bottom. gnome-terminal does work however i would not know how to make it the default terminal. i have not yet discovered the cool stuff yet. i've barely used it though. thanks Notice that the last line is commented out, that way if you want to go back to Gnome, you just reverse the comments. As always, there are even more ways to do this, like create scripts for each WM/DE you use in ~/bin, then have an ~/xinitrc like so: exec ~/bin/xfce4 #exec ~/bin/gnome #exec ~/bin/pekwm Then 'startx' will load whatever is *not* commented out. More about this on Todd Slater's site: http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/ i dont want to use a display manager to login. Good for you! The best way to go, IMNSHO. and i'm not entirely sure i will stay with xfce. I'm bettin' you will. It has all the 'cool shit' you want, much more customizable, and very light on resources. You will *not* regret it. 'Sides, any 'problems' you have, there are several XFCE users on here who would be more than happy to help out. also, can i run Gnome Terminal from xfce ? this might come off as odd but i happen to like that terminal alot. You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be the same as your KDE or Gnome menus, and of course you can add launchers to the panel for whatever apps you use the most. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:26:01 -0500 mdk n00b disseminated the following: ok i did that. it launched and i see the panel at the top. that was my only noticable difference than using startxfce4. That's easily configured in the settings for the panel. That's the main thing I like about XFCE, is the fact that you can configure almost everything through one simple and intuitive interface, themes, behaviours, the whole 9 yards. also my wheel mouse causes things to move left to right instead of up and down. annoying :( Ya, that kinda drove me nuts too, if you are referring to the 'switching desktops with the mousewheel' thing, it seems 'backwards'. If you put your panel on the right, and use the desktop pager, it makes more sense though. You will see that when you wheel up, the pager moves 'up' one workspace, and vice versa. when i said i wanted to change default browser to Epiphany that was for right click menu and the middle aligned dock at the bottom. gnome-terminal does work however i would not know how to make it the default terminal. Not sure what you mean there about 'default terminal', but you can just create a launcher for it on your panel. Is there some app you are using that calls a terminal? If so, there is probably a setting to have it call the Gnome term rather than Xterm or whatever. i have not yet discovered the cool stuff yet. i've barely used it though. There's lots of 'goodies' for XFCE, most, if not all, of them available through Charles' urpmi source. Some examples here: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. -- Karl Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:34:00 -0400 JoeHill wrote: Some examples here: http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/ All those are avaiable as mdk rpms using the regular Contrib source i.e 10.0 Contrib. None of the sources have been updated so all the 10.0 contrib rpms are current and are not on my site. They Are on my site for 9.2 as they do not exist elsewhere as mdk rpms. Charles -- I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.5-1.tmb.4mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature