Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-30 Thread Marv Boyes
Oops! I guess I forgot (or, perhaps more honestly, never really noticed) 
that I got that plugin from another source. At any rate, it's a 
must-have. ;) Sorry for the confusion.

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Carl J. Bauman wrote:

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:37 -0500
Carl J. Bauman wrote:
 

Thanks, Marv.  Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that
you mentioned does not seem to exist on my system.  I'm now running
Xfce 4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's 
at http://www.eslrahc.com.
  


You need to install xfce-minicmd-plugin which is available from 10.0 
contrib

I will state again I do not include rpms on my site which already 
exist in a current mdk rpm repository



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O!  The light dawns.  I guess this means I should go ahead and 
configure a contrib media source...

Thanks, Charles.

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-29 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 10:40, Josenildo Marques wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 18:08, Richard Urwin wrote:
  My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. 
  You'll soon wonder how you survived without it.
 
 Do you mean the Gnome command line applet ?
 How can you do that ? I tried to find it, but I can't find out its
 'real' name.

NO - there is a panel plugin for XFCE that you can get from the goodies
page...

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-28 Thread Carl J. Bauman
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Right-click on the Xfce4 panel, slide up to 'Add new item', and select 
'Mini Command Line'. It'll put a little textbox in your panel for 
issuing commands.


Thanks, Marv.  Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that you 
mentioned does not seem to exist on my system.  I'm now running Xfce 
4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's at 
http://www.eslrahc.com.

Thanks again,
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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-28 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:15:37 -0500
Carl J. Bauman wrote:

 Thanks, Marv.  Unfortunately the Mini Command Line selection that
 you mentioned does not seem to exist on my system.  I'm now running
 Xfce 4.0.5 on Mandrake 10.0, installed from Charles Edward's rpm's at 
 http://www.eslrahc.com.


You need to install xfce-minicmd-plugin which is available from 10.0 contrib

I will state again I do not include rpms on my site which already exist in a current 
mdk rpm repository



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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-21 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 21 Apr 2004 5:20 am, Carl J. Bauman wrote:
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 You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu
  should be the same as your KDE or Gnome menus

 Hi Joe,

 I didn't find this to be true in my case.  I'm running Mandrake 10.0
 and, since I was having trouble with urpmi in general at the time, I
 installed xfce4 from sources.  Is there a way to add my KDE menus to
 the desktop menu, short of manually adding everything to menu.xml?  I
 didn't see anything mentioned in the online manual.

If you install from Charles' source the Mandrake menu appears as on 
entry in the right click menu. You'll have to ask him how he did it 
though if you want to stick with the compiled version.

My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. 
You'll soon wonder how you survived without it.

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 07:08, Richard Urwin wrote:

 If you install from Charles' source the Mandrake menu appears as on 
 entry in the right click menu. You'll have to ask him how he did it 
 though if you want to stick with the compiled version.
 
 My best tip: load the command line applet and add it to the panel. 
 You'll soon wonder how you survived without it.

MenuMaker-0.17

Find it at SourceForge.net

Very simple to setup.

Else you can manually edit the /usr/local/etc/xfce4/menu.xml

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-20 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 05:39:32 -0500
mdk n00b disseminated the following:

 looks like if i still everything but devel i should be ok ?  

Easiest way to install XFCE4 is through Charles' site:

http://www.eslrahc.com/

Just add his repository as a source, then:

urpmi xfce4
 
 how would i switch from Gnome to xfce4 and from xfce4 back to Gnome by
 only using startx ? 

Two ways to do this. IIRC, you can start XFCE from a text login with
'startxfce4', but you can also start it with 'startx' if you have an ~/.xinitrc
like so:

xfce-mcs-manager
xfwm4 --daemon
xftaskbar4 
xfdesktop 
exec xfce4-panel
#exec gnome-session

Notice that the last line is commented out, that way if you want to go back to
Gnome, you just reverse the comments. As always, there are even more ways to do
this, like create scripts for each WM/DE you use in ~/bin, then have an
~/xinitrc like so:

exec ~/bin/xfce4
#exec ~/bin/gnome
#exec ~/bin/pekwm

Then 'startx' will load whatever is *not* commented out.

More about this on Todd Slater's site:

http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/

 i dont want to use a display manager to login. 

Good for you! The best way to go, IMNSHO.

 and i'm not entirely sure i will stay with xfce.

I'm bettin' you will. It has all the 'cool shit' you want, much more
customizable, and very light on resources. You will *not* regret it. 'Sides, any
'problems' you have, there are several XFCE users on here who would be more than
happy to help out.

 also, can i run Gnome Terminal from xfce ? this might come off as odd but i
 happen to like that terminal alot. 

You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be
the same as your KDE or Gnome menus, and of course you can add launchers to the
panel for whatever apps you use the most.

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-20 Thread mdk n00b
installed. 

 Easiest way to install XFCE4 is through Charles' site:
 
 http://www.eslrahc.com/
 
 would i switch from Gnome to xfce4 and from xfce4 back to Gnome by
  only using startx ? 
 
 'startxfce4', but you can also start it with 'startx' if you have an ~/.xinitrc
 like so:
 
 xfce-mcs-manager
 xfwm4 --daemon
 xftaskbar4 
 xfdesktop 
 exec xfce4-panel
 #exec gnome-session

ok i did that.  it launched and i see the panel at the top.  that was my
only noticable difference than using startxfce4.

also my wheel mouse causes things to move left to right instead of up
and down.  annoying :(  

when i said i wanted to change default browser to Epiphany that was for
right click menu and the middle aligned dock at the bottom.  

gnome-terminal does work however i would not know how to make it the
default terminal.

i have not yet discovered the cool stuff yet.  i've barely used it
though.  

thanks





 Notice that the last line is commented out, that way if you want to go back to
 Gnome, you just reverse the comments. As always, there are even more ways to do
 this, like create scripts for each WM/DE you use in ~/bin, then have an
 ~/xinitrc like so:
 
 exec ~/bin/xfce4
 #exec ~/bin/gnome
 #exec ~/bin/pekwm
 
 Then 'startx' will load whatever is *not* commented out.
 
 More about this on Todd Slater's site:
 
 http://clevername.homeip.net/xfce4/
 
  i dont want to use a display manager to login. 
 
 Good for you! The best way to go, IMNSHO.
 
  and i'm not entirely sure i will stay with xfce.
 
 I'm bettin' you will. It has all the 'cool shit' you want, much more
 customizable, and very light on resources. You will *not* regret it. 'Sides, any
 'problems' you have, there are several XFCE users on here who would be more than
 happy to help out.
 
  also, can i run Gnome Terminal from xfce ? this might come off as odd but i
  happen to like that terminal alot. 
 
 You can run anything you like from within XFCE, the right-click menu should be
 the same as your KDE or Gnome menus, and of course you can add launchers to the
 panel for whatever apps you use the most.



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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-20 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:26:01 -0500
mdk n00b disseminated the following:

 ok i did that.  it launched and i see the panel at the top.  that was my
 only noticable difference than using startxfce4.

That's easily configured in the settings for the panel. That's the main thing I 
like about XFCE, is the fact that you can configure almost everything through
one simple and intuitive interface, themes, behaviours, the whole 9 yards.

 also my wheel mouse causes things to move left to right instead of up
 and down.  annoying :(  

Ya, that kinda drove me nuts too, if you are referring to the 'switching
desktops with the mousewheel' thing, it seems 'backwards'. If you put your panel
on the right, and use the desktop pager, it makes more sense though. You will
see that when you wheel up, the pager moves 'up' one workspace, and vice versa.

 when i said i wanted to change default browser to Epiphany that was for
 right click menu and the middle aligned dock at the bottom.  
 
 gnome-terminal does work however i would not know how to make it the
 default terminal.

Not sure what you mean there about 'default terminal', but you can just create a
launcher for it on your panel. Is there some app you are using that calls a
terminal? If so, there is probably a setting to have it call the Gnome term
rather than Xterm or whatever.

 i have not yet discovered the cool stuff yet.  i've barely used it
 though.  

There's lots of 'goodies' for XFCE, most, if not all, of them available through
Charles' urpmi source.

Some examples here:

http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

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Re: [newbie] trying xfce4 - help

2004-04-20 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:34:00 -0400
JoeHill wrote:

 Some examples here:
 
 http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/

All those are avaiable as mdk rpms using the regular Contrib source
i.e 10.0 Contrib.

None of the sources have been updated so all the 10.0 contrib rpms are current and are 
not on my site.
They Are on my site for 9.2 as they do not exist elsewhere as mdk rpms.



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