Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2002-01-06 Thread Anuerin G.Diaz

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:35:11 -0500
Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 05 January 2002 02:17, you wrote:
  On Sat, 17 November 2001, Franki wrote:
   I recently stopped using Reiserfs on the server boxes, I swaped to ext3,
   the reason being that recently I have had some data corruption on both
   mdk7.2 and
   mdk8.1 and in both cases, it appears that reiserfs was the problem, for
   one thing, it apparently doesn't like postfix much.
 
 as I hear, it might have some issues with nfs too. so no reiser for the 
 server partitions where postfix or nfs might write. I hear it aint't to good 
 for the /boot partition either, 
 

durn! and i switched my boot partition into reiserFS. just read the magic page at 
mandrakesecure and i think i will encounter trouble when updating the kernel. *should 
have stuck with ext3, sheesh*

;-)

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2002-01-06 Thread Anuerin G. Diaz



tester wrote:

 Anuerin G.Diaz wrote:


snip


 
 
  durn! and i switched my boot partition into reiserFS. just read the magic page at 
mandrakesecure and i think i will encounter trouble when updating the kernel. *should 
have stuck with ext3, sheesh*
 
  ;-)
 
 
 

 Well you do have XFS and JFS available as well.  JFS might be slightly
 questionable on 8.1 but should be good from that point on, and it is
 fast, though somewhat more wasteful of space and sometimes requirinng
 defragging.

 XFS is primo material, in the same order of magnitusde for speed and
 storage use with ext2 and reiserfs, and good to postfix, nfs and samba
 including the ACLs you have for NT servers. It is quite rapid for most
 operations except massive file deletions, where it is very slow.  The
 other functions make up for that one deficiency rather well.

 ext3 has as its advantage that you can shift from it to ext2 and back on
 the fly.  Its major disadvantage is that the benchmarks I did, emulating
 everyday activity and mailserver activity suggest it is a pig on speed,
 running at about 2/3 ext2.

 Of course if you make your /boot partition anything other than ext2, you
 may have some difficulties keeping several linices on the same machine
 and multi-booting.  Naturally, initrds are very important in mounting /.

 Civileme


and now he tells me... ;-)

well i thought i made a sound decision to convert my boot partition to reiserfs (i was 
just trying journalling file systems and my knowledge about them was next to nil) 
because i heard that reiserfs has
problems with some servers. well it was a good exercise on my part and maybe ill hold 
on upgrading to the new kernel and wait for 8.2 and put my boot partition back to ext2 
or maybe ext3 if it is that
easy to switch back on to ext2.

ciao!

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2002-01-05 Thread Ed Tharp

On Saturday 05 January 2002 02:17, you wrote:
 On Sat, 17 November 2001, Franki wrote:
  I recently stopped using Reiserfs on the server boxes, I swaped to ext3,
  the reason being that recently I have had some data corruption on both
  mdk7.2 and
  mdk8.1 and in both cases, it appears that reiserfs was the problem, for
  one thing, it apparently doesn't like postfix much.

as I hear, it might have some issues with nfs too. so no reiser for the 
server partitions where postfix or nfs might write. I hear it aint't to good 
for the /boot partition either, 



  ext3 is abit slower then reiserfs for small files, but the difference is
  not that noticable.
 
 
  rgds
 
  Frank
 
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew
  (VOGELAP)
  Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2001 3:50 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?
 
 
  For the purpose of a server machine, is REISER FS better than EXT2? Or
  are there others that might be better? I'm using LM8.0 PowerPack, and
  HAVE 8.1 PowerPack (haven't installed it yet since I keep hearing the
  horror stories).
 
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RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2002-01-04 Thread Peter Bussiere

On Sat, 17 November 2001, Franki wrote:

 
 I recently stopped using Reiserfs on the server boxes, I swaped to ext3, the
 reason being that recently I have had some data corruption on both mdk7.2
 and
 mdk8.1 and in both cases, it appears that reiserfs was the problem, for one
 thing, it apparently doesn't like postfix much.
 
 ext3 is abit slower then reiserfs for small files, but the difference is not
 that noticable.
 
 
 rgds
 
 Frank
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew
 (VOGELAP)
 Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2001 3:50 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?
 
 
 For the purpose of a server machine, is REISER FS better than EXT2? Or are
 there others that might be better? I'm using LM8.0 PowerPack, and HAVE 8.1
 PowerPack (haven't installed it yet since I keep hearing the horror
 stories).
 
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 College of Pharmacy
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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-21 Thread sarah white

alrighty... what flavor of linux are you running? i know that it does like
the swap, root, and home though. im running mandrake 8.1 and its pretty cool
like that with the graphical install... it has autoalicate. :)

- Original Message -
From: sarah white [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


 you can do autoalicate... usually it will sk for a swap and root (/) and
 home

 - Original Message -
 From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Hugo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


   Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the
swap
   partition or can we just have a /.
 
  Hugo,
 
  As far as I know, you must. And even if you didn't technically
  need one, you _should_ have one anyway.
 
  Miark
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-21 Thread sarah white

yup... thats  right!
- Original Message -
From: sarah white [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


 alrighty... what flavor of linux are you running? i know that it does like
 the swap, root, and home though. im running mandrake 8.1 and its pretty
cool
 like that with the graphical install... it has autoalicate. :)

 - Original Message -
 From: sarah white [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


  you can do autoalicate... usually it will sk for a swap and root (/) and
  home
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Hugo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?
 
 
Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the
 swap
partition or can we just have a /.
  
   Hugo,
  
   As far as I know, you must. And even if you didn't technically
   need one, you _should_ have one anyway.
  
   Miark
  
  
  
  
  
 
 

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-20 Thread Hugo Ferreira

Miark,

You have confirmed what others have said.
I will set a swap file and leave the rest as /.

Thanx.
Hugo

- Original Message -
From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hugo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


  Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the swap
  partition or can we just have a /.

 Hugo,

 As far as I know, you must. And even if you didn't technically
 need one, you _should_ have one anyway.

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-20 Thread sarah white

you can do autoalicate... usually it will sk for a swap and root (/) and
home

- Original Message -
From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hugo Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


  Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the swap
  partition or can we just have a /.

 Hugo,

 As far as I know, you must. And even if you didn't technically
 need one, you _should_ have one anyway.

 Miark











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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-19 Thread Hugo Ferreira

Hi,

Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the swap
partition or can we just have a /.

TIA.
Hugo.

- Original Message -
From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


  Yes, sorry... I meant my Swap to be 2x my RAM so I would go for a Swap
  partition of about 130 MB or so.

 That's fine.

  Is Root where the actual OS is
  installed... The System Files, etc.?

 No, there are only directories in the root directory, and /root is
 basically the home directory of the root user. The OS, well,
 let's say the kernel, is located in /boot, and the rest of the
 configuration files, libraries, etc. are scattered in various
 other places.

  Lastly, is the Home partition for all Programs one wants to load?

 Typically, no. Home is just for personal data (letters, spreadsheets,
 etc.) and configuration files (KDE, Gnome, X apps, etc.). You could
 run smaller apps from your home directory. I, for instance, run the
 AudioGalaxy client from my home directory. But as a rule, apps go
 somewhere under /usr.

  With a
  Swap partition of 130 MB and Root of 1 GB, that only leaves me about 900
  MB for a Home partition. Does that sound about right? And again, will
  DiskDrake allow me to create those partitions or will I have to purchase
  Partition Magic?

 With a 2GB drive, I think Tom Brinkman's strategy is the best. Just make
 a swap partition (130MB is fine), and make the rest a single partition
 mounted  at /. You'll save yourself a lot of space headaches.

 DiskDrake will do it. Don't both with PM. I've used version 7 (the
latest),
 and it's caused great headaches for me. Plus, PM doesn't make ReiserFS
 partitions, which you'll probably want to use instead of Ext2.

  Sorry to be so persistent, but having never run or installed Linux, this
  all seems rather foreign to me although I've been a Win32 User for
years.

 No apology necessary.

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-19 Thread Miark

 Sorry for butting in, but I was wondering: do we have to create the swap
 partition or can we just have a /.

Hugo,

As far as I know, you must. And even if you didn't technically
need one, you _should_ have one anyway.

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RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-17 Thread Franki

I recently stopped using Reiserfs on the server boxes, I swaped to ext3, the
reason being that recently I have had some data corruption on both mdk7.2
and
mdk8.1 and in both cases, it appears that reiserfs was the problem, for one
thing, it apparently doesn't like postfix much.

ext3 is abit slower then reiserfs for small files, but the difference is not
that noticable.


rgds

Frank


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew
(VOGELAP)
Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2001 3:50 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


For the purpose of a server machine, is REISER FS better than EXT2? Or are
there others that might be better? I'm using LM8.0 PowerPack, and HAVE 8.1
PowerPack (haven't installed it yet since I keep hearing the horror
stories).

---


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College of Pharmacy
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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-17 Thread David E. Fox

 Yes, sorry... I meant my Swap to be 2x my RAM so I would go for a Swap
 partition of about 130 MB or so. Is Root where the actual OS is

That's a good choice.

Root (the / partition itself) contains directories and files needed by
the system. At minimum, it needs to have enough room to store files and
directories which can't be (or is unwise to be) stored in other partitions.
These would include directories such as /etc, /sbin, /bin, and so forth. You
could have a small / partition (on the order of 64-128 megs or so; I've
done it with as little as 32 megs in / in older releases) provided of
course you have a partition (or partitions) for the bulk of the system -
most programs are stored underneath /usr, which could be mounted on another
partition.

 Lastly, is the Home partition for all Programs one wants to load? With a
 Swap partition of 130 MB and Root of 1 GB, that only leaves me about 900

Not as such. You could install programs in your home directory, but most
programs you install will go in either /usr or /usr/local. Think of /usr
(loosely) as the Program Files area and /home as the My Documents area.
It's not a completely valid analogy, as some programs are located in other
places, and other files (like documents) are stored elsewhere too.

 MB for a Home partition. Does that sound about right? And again, will
 DiskDrake allow me to create those partitions or will I have to purchase
 Partition Magic?

Diskdrake should do fine, no need for PM. 

As others suggest, you'll probably do best for the time being with a single
partition for / (and everything else) and a separate partitino for swap. One
really needs some experience to figure out good settings for other partitions
on a multi-partition setup and you don't want to run out of space because you
underestimated your space needs.

And, if you run out of space, you can always get a bigger secondary disk,
and move larger directories out of the first disk and into partitions on the
second disk. 
 
 Nick

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Roger Sherman

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:

 I am about to embark on my Linux journey using Mandrake 8.1 but before I
 start I have a questions about partitioning my HDD. I only have a P166,
 64 MB RAM and a 2.1 GB HDD. Now I understand that I should have a number
 of partitions, namely:

 Root
 Sway (about twice my RAM therefore 128 MB)

Thats actually called Swap

 Data (presumably a number of data partitions)


Generally, if you just had three partitions, it would be root swap home...


 My question is, will the install routine of Mandrake 8.1 do the
 partitioning for me, or do I have to purchase Partition Magic to do it
 for me?


No, DiskDrake will cut it up for you just fine, and you can either have it
auto allocate the space, or you can tell it exaclty how much you want in
each partition. It's very well laid out, and fairly self explanatory.

Good luck!





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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread antoine rivoire

i think mandrake can't do autoallocate with such small drive space. i would 
almost recomend just 2 partitions with so little drive space, just cause u 
can't afford a lot of free space on / ot /home..



On Friday 16 November 2001 4:54 pm, you wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:
  I am about to embark on my Linux journey using Mandrake 8.1 but before I
  start I have a questions about partitioning my HDD. I only have a P166,
  64 MB RAM and a 2.1 GB HDD. Now I understand that I should have a number
  of partitions, namely:
 
  Root
  Sway (about twice my RAM therefore 128 MB)

 Thats actually called Swap

  Data (presumably a number of data partitions)

 Generally, if you just had three partitions, it would be root swap home...

  My question is, will the install routine of Mandrake 8.1 do the
  partitioning for me, or do I have to purchase Partition Magic to do it
  for me?

 No, DiskDrake will cut it up for you just fine, and you can either have it
 auto allocate the space, or you can tell it exaclty how much you want in
 each partition. It's very well laid out, and fairly self explanatory.

 Good luck!





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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello antoine rivoire,

On Friday, November 16 2001 at 09:24 AM PDT, you wrote:

 i think mandrake can't do autoallocate with such small drive space. i would 
 almost recomend just 2 partitions with so little drive space, just cause u 
 can't afford a lot of free space on / ot /home..

I have no idea what /ot/home means, but if you say Mandrake will not be
able to auto-partition a 2.1 GB Drive, would you suggest I do it
manually, and if so just a Root and Data partition with the Root
partition being something like 2x my available RAM (64 MB)? Would I have
to use Partition Magic, or is this DiskDrake capable of doing for me
via manual means?


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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Miark

You meant swap rather than root, right Nick?

Miark


- Original Message - 
From: Nick Andriash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?


 Hello antoine rivoire,
 
 On Friday, November 16 2001 at 09:24 AM PDT, you wrote:
 
  i think mandrake can't do autoallocate with such small drive space. i would 
  almost recomend just 2 partitions with so little drive space, just cause u 
  can't afford a lot of free space on / ot /home..
 
 I have no idea what /ot/home means, but if you say Mandrake will not be
 able to auto-partition a 2.1 GB Drive, would you suggest I do it
 manually, and if so just a Root and Data partition with the Root
 partition being something like 2x my available RAM (64 MB)? Would I have
 to use Partition Magic, or is this DiskDrake capable of doing for me
 via manual means?
 
 
 -- 
 Nick
 
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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread skidley

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:

 I am about to embark on my Linux journey using Mandrake 8.1 but before I
 start I have a questions about partitioning my HDD. I only have a P166,
 64 MB RAM and a 2.1 GB HDD. Now I understand that I should have a number
 of partitions, namely:

 Root
 Sway (about twice my RAM therefore 128 MB)
 Data (presumably a number of data partitions)

 My question is, will the install routine of Mandrake 8.1 do the
 partitioning for me, or do I have to purchase Partition Magic to do it
 for me?


You can partition yourself during an expert install or mandrake will
partition automatically for a standard install.

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread skidley

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:

 Hello antoine rivoire,

 On Friday, November 16 2001 at 09:24 AM PDT, you wrote:

  i think mandrake can't do autoallocate with such small drive space. i would
  almost recomend just 2 partitions with so little drive space, just cause u
  can't afford a lot of free space on / ot /home..

 I have no idea what /ot/home means, but if you say Mandrake will not be
 able to auto-partition a 2.1 GB Drive, would you suggest I do it
 manually, and if so just a Root and Data partition with the Root
 partition being something like 2x my available RAM (64 MB)? Would I have
 to use Partition Magic, or is this DiskDrake capable of doing for me
 via manual means?



I'd suggest making a /(/ is the mount point for root) swap and /home with
such little drive space. You'll want maybe a gig or so for root and
pick the packages you want to install wisely and the size of home depends on what you 
want to do with the box.
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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Miark,

On Friday, November 16 2001 at 09:47 AM PDT, you wrote:

 You meant swap rather than root, right Nick?

Yes, sorry... I meant my Swap to be 2x my RAM so I would go for a Swap
partition of about 130 MB or so. Is Root where the actual OS is
installed... The System Files, etc.? Skidley said to make my Root 1 GB
which seems rather large if my entire Drive is only 2.1 GB. Besides, Win
98 itself only occupies 350 MB. Is Mandrake 8.1 that much larger?

Lastly, is the Home partition for all Programs one wants to load? With a
Swap partition of 130 MB and Root of 1 GB, that only leaves me about 900
MB for a Home partition. Does that sound about right? And again, will
DiskDrake allow me to create those partitions or will I have to purchase
Partition Magic?

Sorry to be so persistent, but having never run or installed Linux, this
all seems rather foreign to me although I've been a Win32 User for years.


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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread skidley

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:

 Hello Miark,

 On Friday, November 16 2001 at 09:47 AM PDT, you wrote:

  You meant swap rather than root, right Nick?

 Yes, sorry... I meant my Swap to be 2x my RAM so I would go for a Swap
 partition of about 130 MB or so. Is Root where the actual OS is
 installed... The System Files, etc.? Skidley said to make my Root 1 GB
 which seems rather large if my entire Drive is only 2.1 GB. Besides, Win
 98 itself only occupies 350 MB. Is Mandrake 8.1 that much larger?

 Lastly, is the Home partition for all Programs one wants to load? With a
 Swap partition of 130 MB and Root of 1 GB, that only leaves me about 900
 MB for a Home partition. Does that sound about right? And again, will
 DiskDrake allow me to create those partitions or will I have to purchase
 Partition Magic?

 Sorry to be so persistent, but having never run or installed Linux, this
 all seems rather foreign to me although I've been a Win32 User for years.



The Root partition is where the apps will be installed, in the /usr tree
so you'll need quite a bit of space there. Most Mandrake installs are over
a gig but doesn't need to be. You can select a bare minimum of packages if
you want.

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Miark

 Yes, sorry... I meant my Swap to be 2x my RAM so I would go for a Swap
 partition of about 130 MB or so. 

That's fine.

 Is Root where the actual OS is
 installed... The System Files, etc.? 

No, there are only directories in the root directory, and /root is 
basically the home directory of the root user. The OS, well, 
let's say the kernel, is located in /boot, and the rest of the
configuration files, libraries, etc. are scattered in various 
other places.

 Lastly, is the Home partition for all Programs one wants to load? 

Typically, no. Home is just for personal data (letters, spreadsheets,
etc.) and configuration files (KDE, Gnome, X apps, etc.). You could
run smaller apps from your home directory. I, for instance, run the
AudioGalaxy client from my home directory. But as a rule, apps go
somewhere under /usr.

 With a
 Swap partition of 130 MB and Root of 1 GB, that only leaves me about 900
 MB for a Home partition. Does that sound about right? And again, will
 DiskDrake allow me to create those partitions or will I have to purchase
 Partition Magic?

With a 2GB drive, I think Tom Brinkman's strategy is the best. Just make
a swap partition (130MB is fine), and make the rest a single partition 
mounted  at /. You'll save yourself a lot of space headaches.

DiskDrake will do it. Don't both with PM. I've used version 7 (the latest), 
and it's caused great headaches for me. Plus, PM doesn't make ReiserFS 
partitions, which you'll probably want to use instead of Ext2.
 
 Sorry to be so persistent, but having never run or installed Linux, this
 all seems rather foreign to me although I've been a Win32 User for years.

No apology necessary.

Miark




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RE: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)

For the purpose of a server machine, is REISER FS better than EXT2? Or are
there others that might be better? I'm using LM8.0 PowerPack, and HAVE 8.1
PowerPack (haven't installed it yet since I keep hearing the horror
stories).

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Re: [newbie] Laying Out Partitions?

2001-11-16 Thread antoine rivoire



On Friday 16 November 2001 5:24 pm, you wrote:
 i think mandrake can't do autoallocate with such small drive space. i would
 almost recomend just 2 partitions with so little drive space, just cause u
 can't afford a lot of free space on / ot /home..

by two partition i meant swap and /. i ran in this problem recently. i had a 
root, swap and home on a small hd(2gig). icant remember how much space i 
allocated to / and /home, but swap was about 130mb. anyway, after a while i 
just found myself no more romm on / .. what to do then? well i 
reinstalled with just swap and / ... you cant afford more free space than you 
need in one partition, because it is likely that you will need it in the 
other one. that's my point really.
however, if you use ext2, you can apparently resize partitions with parted:

http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/



 
 On Friday 16 November 2001 4:54 pm, you wrote:
  On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Nick Andriash wrote:
   I am about to embark on my Linux journey using Mandrake 8.1 but before
   I start I have a questions about partitioning my HDD. I only have a
   P166, 64 MB RAM and a 2.1 GB HDD. Now I understand that I should have a
   number of partitions, namely:
  
   Root
   Sway (about twice my RAM therefore 128 MB)
 
  Thats actually called Swap
 
   Data (presumably a number of data partitions)
 
  Generally, if you just had three partitions, it would be root swap
  home...
 
   My question is, will the install routine of Mandrake 8.1 do the
   partitioning for me, or do I have to purchase Partition Magic to do it
   for me?
 
  No, DiskDrake will cut it up for you just fine, and you can either have
  it auto allocate the space, or you can tell it exaclty how much you want
  in each partition. It's very well laid out, and fairly self explanatory.
 
  Good luck!
 
 
 
 
 
  peace,
 
  Rog



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