Re: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-23 Thread Carlos Betancourt
On Tue July 22 2003 10:36 pm, Frankie wrote:

 I apologise because for 2 times this month I have found
 myself
 to be a participant in heated OT discussions..

 kindest regards


 Franki

Please do not take fault for something that was put outthere to do just that.
Draw you into a heated discussion(for lack of better words). You have a 
point and you made it. I have been following this list for not even a full 
year and have really learned awhole lots by just reading and taking note (a 
hell of alot of notes). It always seems to come up just in time the subject 
that is making me pull the last of my hairs. But just in the past few weeks
jolly Joe Hill seems to be really hitting that line hard and acting like a 
class A speed freak..paranoid almost God like (in his mind). Or he 
could be a plant from microshaftput here to createwell exactly what 
he is doing, making problems for this list. Well thats my to cents. Now 
hopfully this list will get back to enlighten us newbies.

From some who hates to write,
Careless Carlos



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RE: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carlos
Betancourt

On Tue July 22 2003 10:36 pm, Frankie wrote:

 I apologise because for 2 times this month I have found
 myself
 to be a participant in heated OT discussions..

 kindest regards


 Franki
Careless Carlos said this day:

Please do not take fault for something that was put outthere
to do just that.
Draw you into a heated discussion(for lack of better
words). You have a
point and you made it. I have been following this list for
not even a full
year and have really learned awhole lots by just reading and
taking note (a
hell of alot of notes). It always seems to come up just in
time the subject
that is making me pull the last of my hairs. But just in the
past few weeks
jolly Joe Hill seems to be really hitting that line hard
and acting like a
class A speed freak..paranoid almost God like (in his
mind). Or he
could be a plant from microshaftput here to
createwell exactly what
he is doing, making problems for this list. Well thats my to
cents. Now
hopfully this list will get back to enlighten us newbies.

From some who hates to write,
Careless Carlos
-
Franki replies:

Thanks Carlos, but I have been on this list for over 3
years, might even be 5
or more, (I was on with a different address before this
one.)
can't remember how long ago, but i should know better then
to get involved or
worse to in advertantly start such discussions.

The fact that I still do shows I still have much to learn
myself.

rgds

Franki



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Re: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 6:36 am, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys and ladies..

 I have written to Joe off list and asked him not to leave.
 We are not on the list for political reasons and they should
 not be the reason for anyone to leave it either.

Seems to me there are two Joes.  One is a PITA, and should stay on the 
OT list, and the other is a helpful guy with worthwhile posts.  
Please, Joe, take the good side of that comment.  I have not filtered 
you out, because I don't want to lost the good side of your posts.  
What I posted as a passing remark was not intended to promote flame, 
just pointing out that not all agree with you.  Politics really have 
no place on this list.

New start, Joe?

Anne

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Re: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-23 Thread John Richard Smith
Frankie wrote:

Hi guys and ladies..

I have written to Joe off list and asked him not to leave.
We are not on the list for political reasons and they should
not be the reason for anyone to leave it either.
I apologise because for 2 times this month I have found
myself
to be a participant in heated OT discussions..
It is my fault for taking some things too personally, and I
will
try to do better in future and where I can't I'll make use
of the
OT list.
I hate the idea that I might be part of what makes newbies
think
that linux users are all fanatical evangelists..
its wrong and I don't want to perpetuate that myth.
kindest regards

Franki
 

Franki,

I don't think you have anything much at all to apologise for.

Each of us are entitled to our own opinions, and we are all free to 
express them. There is no censorship here.

I like to think we all want to keep our discussions polite , if for no 
other reason that it tends to weakens our own case to resort to bad 
language, and that is a pitty, when it often is the case, that an 
individual does have something to worthwhile to contribute.

So ordinary good manners aid any individuals contribution. It has to be 
recognised though that people will loose their tempers from time to 
time, and it says as much about our collective self to recognise that, 
how a community deals with that  is a measure of it's  greatness.

Now I would just like to say that the OT list exists for OT discusion, 
why not use it, and as soon at you feel the need  happening,  just 
transfer it with a note saying as such.It's not difficult to repost it 
to the newbieOT list.

John



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RE: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Viron
Frank,

I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.  I figure that I'm relatively
accomplished at Linux / Unix related stuff, but I don't know everything
there is know (and so therefore still have much to learn).

I've been on several linux related mailing lists.  I can proudly trace my
involvement (albeit largely unofficial) with LPI back to June 1999, with
the Redhat Mailing lists back to February '99, and on this list (albeit
with 3 different mailing addresses) to sometime in 2001.

Unfortunately, I've not had nearly as much time to keep up with what's
going on here (I'm subscribed to 26 e-mail lists currently, which I will
probably be paring back again soon).  I still haven't launched
mdklinuxfaq.org (even though I had hoped to have at least a basic page in
place by now).  By the way, you can get to Vincent Danen's twiki via
twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org also

I've always tried to aim high on everything I do -- so here's to hoping,
Frank, that you're on the list for another 10 years!

Michael


At 03:47 PM 7/23/2003 +0800, you wrote:
Franki replies:

Thanks Carlos, but I have been on this list for over 3
years, might even be 5
or more, (I was on with a different address before this
one.)
can't remember how long ago, but i should know better then
to get involved or
worse to in advertantly start such discussions.

The fact that I still do shows I still have much to learn
myself.

rgds

Franki



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RE: [newbie] WE R @ it again.......my humblest apologies..

2003-07-22 Thread Frankie
Hi guys and ladies..

I have written to Joe off list and asked him not to leave.
We are not on the list for political reasons and they should
not be the reason for anyone to leave it either.

I apologise because for 2 times this month I have found
myself
to be a participant in heated OT discussions..

It is my fault for taking some things too personally, and I
will
try to do better in future and where I can't I'll make use
of the
OT list.

I hate the idea that I might be part of what makes newbies
think
that linux users are all fanatical evangelists..
its wrong and I don't want to perpetuate that myth.


kindest regards


Franki


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