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Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule To put it another way, thank you, your welcome, and me too messages clutter the list, and waste bandwidth. This is a help list, courtesy is implied, and therefore doesn't need to be expressed. HTH -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
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I don't mean to be rude, but that is the worst run-on sentence I have ever encountered! I don't think that your intended receiver got what you meant clearly. Good luck with future posts!! SteveW... - Original Message - From: "bascule" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Administration Question because it was a reply to an answer by said flupke to a post by me composed by reading his/her answer and choosing reply to sender from the appropriate menu, it should have appeared appropriately in the thread unless you had deleted all previous thread posts, since i was 'merely' being courteous i didn't quote previous info as i wasn't adding any, beyond 'good vibes' bascule Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule
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Yes, It's hardly understandable. And from the little I can understand, I think it better stays in its rude, uncivlised darkness. -- Piero. Tue, 06 Jun 2000, Stephen Weltman wrote: I don't mean to be rude, but that is the worst run-on sentence I have ever encountered! I don't think that your intended receiver got what you meant clearly. Good luck with future posts!! Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root
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My point exactly, that is having no knowledge of what your message might have contained, but having a subject of "Administration Question" we opened the thing and viewed a very nice "Thank You". I would suggest that between just two lists, newbies and blt, upwards of 200 hundred messages are posted each day. Perhaps you might have considered changing the subject line to something other then the common "Administration Question". Or was it your intent to thank each and everyone of us that have subscribed to these lists. I hope that my use of the English language has improved. On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: because it was a reply to an answer by said flupke to a post by me composed by reading his/her answer and choosing reply to sender from the appropriate menu, it should have appeared appropriately in the thread unless you had deleted all previous thread posts, since i was 'merely' being courteous i didn't quote previous info as i wasn't adding any, beyond 'good vibes' bascule Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule
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Amen to that. Dacia --- "Oliver L. Plaine Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't mean to be rude, but that is the worst run-on sentence I have ever encountered! I don't think that your intended receiver got what you meant clearly. = Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:19:30 No offense meant to the writer of the above, but please do not attempt to turn the list into an English course, A quantity of contributors to this list do not have english as a primary language and I would hate for anyone to feel that correct punctuation is a prerequisite to posting.' I only speak english, and I have not mastered the finer points myself, in fact effective writing is quite allusive. I do envy persons who can use different languages, as I am stuck with just one. These messages should be utilized for their Linux content only. correct punctuation is desirable but we should accept anything that is written in the manner in which it is written. Olly P Biloxi __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
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thanks flupke bascule
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Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule
Re: [newbie] Administration Question
because it was a reply to an answer by said flupke to a post by me composed by reading his/her answer and choosing reply to sender from the appropriate menu, it should have appeared appropriately in the thread unless you had deleted all previous thread posts, since i was 'merely' being courteous i didn't quote previous info as i wasn't adding any, beyond 'good vibes' bascule Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule
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On Wed, 31 May 2000, John Rye wrote: Hi, it would be indeed the proper way to do as you already wrote. Create a new directory, chown that to anyone.group_where_fred_and_tom_will_be_in and then add tom and fred to that group. Paul I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom' I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text). Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames. How should I go about this? 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have access to 'fred's files. I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar in which these two users can drop the exchange files. As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her directory. That is not an option in this case.. Suggestions are most welcome. Cheers. John -- -- New Zealand - Home of the Americas Cup -- )0(---)0( Wisdom is as rare as diamond )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, you wrote: Two options. Very Large Snip Thank You, Problem solved Cheers
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hi flupke, your answer to john's post is interesting because it says that a group can own files, i always assumed that an 'owner' had to be a user (though i never saw that written anywhere), can a group also be a member of another group like a user can? bascule flupke wrote: I think the best way to make what you want would be to create a new group dedicated to the files shared by fred and tom. Lets call it fredandtom (groupadd fredandtom). Make Both fred and tom member of this new group (by adding "fred,tom" to the entry fredandtom in the /etc/group file). Then make the fredandtom group the owner of /home/shared (chgrp fredandtom /home/shared). From now on, the files in /home/shared whose group is fredandtom and are group writable (chmod g+w file) will be accessible to both tom and fred. But the files whose group is fred or tom will be only accessible to respectively fred or tom. HTH Flupke John Rye wrote: I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom' I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text). Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames. How should I go about this? 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have access to 'fred's files. I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar in which these two users can drop the exchange files. As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her directory. That is not an option in this case.. Suggestions are most welcome. Cheers. John -- -- New Zealand - Home of the Americas Cup --
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Hi Bascule, I didn't really meant that a group can own a file (even if the man chgrp says : chgrp - change group ownership). Sorry if I didn't express myself correctly. I just meant that there are permissions to a file that are specific to a particular group. I might be wrong, but I don't think it's possible to make a group member of another group. And I also think that this term "ownership" could be misleading. I rather think about a file as being a member of a group. Sorry again if I wasn't clear enough. Flupke bascule wrote: hi flupke, your answer to john's post is interesting because it says that a group can own files, i always assumed that an 'owner' had to be a user (though i never saw that written anywhere), can a group also be a member of another group like a user can? bascule flupke wrote: I think the best way to make what you want would be to create a new group dedicated to the files shared by fred and tom. Lets call it fredandtom (groupadd fredandtom). Make Both fred and tom member of this new group (by adding "fred,tom" to the entry fredandtom in the /etc/group file). Then make the fredandtom group the owner of /home/shared (chgrp fredandtom /home/shared). From now on, the files in /home/shared whose group is fredandtom and are group writable (chmod g+w file) will be accessible to both tom and fred. But the files whose group is fred or tom will be only accessible to respectively fred or tom. HTH Flupke John Rye wrote: I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom' I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text). Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames. How should I go about this? 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have access to 'fred's files. I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar in which these two users can drop the exchange files. As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her directory. That is not an option in this case.. Suggestions are most welcome. Cheers. John -- -- New Zealand - Home of the Americas Cup --
Re: [newbie] Administration Question
I think the best way to make what you want would be to create a new group dedicated to the files shared by fred and tom. Lets call it fredandtom (groupadd fredandtom). Make Both fred and tom member of this new group (by adding "fred,tom" to the entry fredandtom in the /etc/group file). Then make the fredandtom group the owner of /home/shared (chgrp fredandtom /home/shared). From now on, the files in /home/shared whose group is fredandtom and are group writable (chmod g+w file) will be accessible to both tom and fred. But the files whose group is fred or tom will be only accessible to respectively fred or tom. HTH Flupke John Rye wrote: I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom' I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text). Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames. How should I go about this? 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have access to 'fred's files. I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar in which these two users can drop the exchange files. As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her directory. That is not an option in this case.. Suggestions are most welcome. Cheers. John -- -- New Zealand - Home of the Americas Cup --
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I have two users call them 'fred' and 'tom' I need for these two users to be able to share files (usually text). Both users are members of their own groups named for their usernames. How should I go about this? 'fred' may NOT have access to 'tom's files and 'tom' may NOT have access to 'fred's files. I intention is to create a directory named say: /home/shared or similar in which these two users can drop the exchange files. As I remember if I make both of these users members of the same group the each is able to 'see' what the other is doing? or has in her directory. That is not an option in this case.. Suggestions are most welcome. Cheers. John Put them into the "share" group (or whatevery you wanna call it). Have "root" own the directory, and "share" have read/write access to that dir. Have them only mark "read/write by group" in that folder. That may be a little vague, but it works..maybe -Jeff -- Don't you use envelopes for your e-mail too? Use PGP for your e-mail!
