Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-08 Thread David E. Fox
> of the board, but it does have "Fresno" printed along one edge.

FSB is I guess the bus speed to the expansioh slots - supposedly
the "front side" of the CPU. Doesn't make much sense. I guess it's
related to the speed that the CPU can interface with the peripherals,
memory, etc. If it's in "front" of anything my guess it's in frunt of
the CPU.

> - Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory
> (Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot)

Others have suggested it may be a problem. 4 megs of video should be
enough for most things. I've got 16. Supposedly, 32-bit color at
1024x768 resolution needs just a little over 4 megs. But that should
not impact the installer, and you can select a particular resolution
and test different ones during the X setup.

> - 56K v.90 Modem PCI (Cheetah apparently)

This might be a concern - many PCI modems are winmodems. If so,
modeming will be difficult because the winmodems are dumbed-down
"modems' that require Windows hardware calls to function.

> - Internet Multimedia Keyboard full size (104 key)

Marketing hype. Does the keyboard play sound? :)

> - 2 button Mouse PS/2

Wonder why they didn't market the mouse as multimedia :).

> Diane

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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:37, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> No, I haven' ttried these CD's on anohter system - Good thought.  I'll be
> sure to try that before I pack this thing up and send 'er back!
Bravo
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Diane Arsenault
Hi Tom,

No, I haven' ttried these CD's on anohter system - Good thought.  I'll be
sure to try that before I pack this thing up and send 'er back!

Diane

- Original Message -
From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0


> On Thursday March 6 2003 12:09 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> > Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as
> > Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's
> > are on "Auto".
> >
> > Diane
>
>Di, are you sure the drive jumpers are set as such. Many Windoze
> computers are delivered with drives, specially CD drives set to
> "Cable select".   A setting only Bill Gates understands ;)
>
>According to your statement, your cdrom should be hdc with the
> jumper set to master, and your cd-rw is hdd with the jumper set to
> slave.  Altho not always absolutely neccessary, hdc should be on the
> last connector on the second channel (ide1) ribbon cable, and the
> slave, hdd should be on the middle connector.
>
>Have you tried any of your bootable CD's in other systems to see if
> they are in fact, bootable?
> --
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
>
>






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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Yoel P. Krigsman
Looks like the computer might be a bit old, can't boot from CDrom. I had 
that problem in the past, and I had to create a boot disk and boot via 
floppy method.

YPK

Diane Arsenault wrote:

Hi,

No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd is the
problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in
the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point.
Diane

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To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
 

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote:
   

Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.

Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the
 

boot
 

priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.

What now?

Diane
 

Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I
ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted.
Just to make sure.
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday March 6 2003 12:09 pm, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as
> Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's
> are on "Auto".
>
> Diane

   Di, are you sure the drive jumpers are set as such. Many Windoze 
computers are delivered with drives, specially CD drives set to 
"Cable select".   A setting only Bill Gates understands ;)

   According to your statement, your cdrom should be hdc with the 
jumper set to master, and your cd-rw is hdd with the jumper set to 
slave.  Altho not always absolutely neccessary, hdc should be on the 
last connector on the second channel (ide1) ribbon cable, and the 
slave, hdd should be on the middle connector.

   Have you tried any of your bootable CD's in other systems to see if 
they are in fact, bootable?
-- 
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Graham Watkins
Diane Arsenault wrote:

Hello Civileme,

Oops - sorry about the HTML - I didn't realize it wasn't set to plain text.



- 128 Mb SDRAM PC 100, 2 DIMM sockets.  I had 128 Mb added, for a total of
256.  (NOTE - when the BIOS fires up it report 255 Mb's, not 256)
- 40 Gb 5400 RPM Hard Drive

- 48x CD-ROM Drive (LG) (original equipment)

- 48 x 24 x 48 x CD-RW added (also LG)

- 1.44 3.5" Floppy Drive

- Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory
(Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot)
 

Snipped

FYI - although the specs say "4 MB shared video memory, under the Advanced
menu in the BIOS it says 1 MB.
 

4mb video memory isn't very much these days,  I have 8 and sometimes the 
display struggles a bit.  And if it's set in the BIOS to only use 1mb 
then it's possible that the graphical installation can't actually 
function on such a low vid memory.

Of course, I may be wrong about this and there are plenty of people on 
this list who know more than me.

--
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:09:22AM -0800, Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Diane Arsenault
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> 9.0
> 
> 
> Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary
> master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's are on "Auto".

Some systems will only boot from drives on the *first* IDE chain.

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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 07:51, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hello Civileme,
> 
> Oops - sorry about the HTML - I didn't realize it wasn't set to plain text.
> 
> OK - info about my computer.  It's a HP Pavilion 7915, and I purchased it
> from a company that sells factory overstocks from HP.  It came "hardware
> only" (FYI - it did have Win98 on it, but when I first installed XP it
> trashed that).  Her are the specs I know:
> 
> - Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz Processor
> 
- Intelligent Celery running at 1100mhz

> - Socket 370 Motherboard, 100 Mhz FSB (what is FSB).  I don't know the make
> of the board, but it does have "Fresno" printed along one edge.
> 
- FSB stand for either "Front Side Bus" (doesn't make sense, does it?)
- OR - "Forward Searching Beagle" (makes more sense)

> - 128 Mb SDRAM PC 100, 2 DIMM sockets.  I had 128 Mb added, for a total of
> 256.  (NOTE - when the BIOS fires up it report 255 Mb's, not 256)
> 

- HP can't count.

> - 40 Gb 5400 RPM Hard Drive
> 
> - 48x CD-ROM Drive (LG) (original equipment)
> 
> - 48 x 24 x 48 x CD-RW added (also LG)
> 
> - 1.44 3.5" Floppy Drive
> 
> - Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory
> (Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot)
> 
- Gawd - a whopping 4mb for graphics! Gads, don't know if I could deal
with that much video RAM...(g)

> -  AC97 Audio
> 

- Dang - AC'97 - and it's now 2003 - musta been a good year.

> - Soundblaster compatible 16 bit 3-D Stereo Onboard Sound
> 
> - 56K v.90 Modem PCI (Cheetah apparently)
> 
> - Internet Multimedia Keyboard full size (104 key)
> 
> - 2 button Mouse PS/2
> 
> - Polk Audio Stereo Speakers
> 

- Maybe it's the Polk speakers that are causing all the problems?

> - PORTS:  2 USB, PS/2 Keyboard, PS/2 Mouse, 2 - 9 Pin Serial, Parallel,
> Joystick
> 
> - JACKS:  Speaker, Microphone, Audio In, Audio Out
> 
- missing a Jack. Jack Daniels.

> - Monitor - Not Included.   I purchased a HP Pavilion mx 70.
> 
- If you don't have a monitor, how can you see what you're doing when
you're doing your installations?

> - HARD DRIVE is SAMSUNG SV4002H (Primary Master)

- Samsung is a Korean company (I worked there) - so maybe this
particular HD is from NORTH Korea and it's starting a war with you?

> - CD-ROM is LG Electronics,  Model CRD-8485B (Secondary Master)
> - CD-RW is LG Electronics, Model GCE-8481B  (Secondary Slave)
> 
- LG= Life's Good. God, I hate their ads.

> - BIOS is PhoenixBIOS 4.0, Release 6.0, Core Version 4.06, Bios Revision
> 3.08 02/16/02
> 
- Doesn't a Phoenix "rise" from it's ashes? Maybe you need to set the
machine on fire, then a whole new machine will appear out of the tangle
mess of melted metal and plastic?


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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Diane Arsenault
Hello Civileme,

Oops - sorry about the HTML - I didn't realize it wasn't set to plain text.

OK - info about my computer.  It's a HP Pavilion 7915, and I purchased it
from a company that sells factory overstocks from HP.  It came "hardware
only" (FYI - it did have Win98 on it, but when I first installed XP it
trashed that).  Her are the specs I know:

- Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz Processor

- Socket 370 Motherboard, 100 Mhz FSB (what is FSB).  I don't know the make
of the board, but it does have "Fresno" printed along one edge.

- 128 Mb SDRAM PC 100, 2 DIMM sockets.  I had 128 Mb added, for a total of
256.  (NOTE - when the BIOS fires up it report 255 Mb's, not 256)

- 40 Gb 5400 RPM Hard Drive

- 48x CD-ROM Drive (LG) (original equipment)

- 48 x 24 x 48 x CD-RW added (also LG)

- 1.44 3.5" Floppy Drive

- Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory
(Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot)

-  AC97 Audio

- Soundblaster compatible 16 bit 3-D Stereo Onboard Sound

- 56K v.90 Modem PCI (Cheetah apparently)

- Internet Multimedia Keyboard full size (104 key)

- 2 button Mouse PS/2

- Polk Audio Stereo Speakers

- PORTS:  2 USB, PS/2 Keyboard, PS/2 Mouse, 2 - 9 Pin Serial, Parallel,
Joystick

- JACKS:  Speaker, Microphone, Audio In, Audio Out

- Monitor - Not Included.   I purchased a HP Pavilion mx 70.

- HARD DRIVE is SAMSUNG SV4002H (Primary Master)
- CD-ROM is LG Electronics,  Model CRD-8485B (Secondary Master)
- CD-RW is LG Electronics, Model GCE-8481B  (Secondary Slave)

- BIOS is PhoenixBIOS 4.0, Release 6.0, Core Version 4.06, Bios Revision
3.08 02/16/02

FYI - although the specs say "4 MB shared video memory, under the Advanced
menu in the BIOS it says 1 MB.

I also have a list of all my BIOS settings if that would be of any help at
all.

Diane




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From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0



>
> Ummm, first of all, please set your mailer to plain text messages.  I had
to
> retrieve yours from trash (i do scan trash for newbie messages), but that
is
> where html mail from all the lists I am a member of goes first.
>
> We need to know more about your hardware.  Since you are installing win95
it
> appears you may have an older computer, and there may be specific dodges
or
> an older distro to employ to make that work.
>
> So--we need to know your memory, your processor, and any information you
can
> find about your motherboard chipset or video card...  It could be one of
the
> older motherboards whose Basic Input-Output System(BIOS) misreports the
> memory map to the OS, and the latest linux kernels now trust the BIOS
unless
> you override at install time by pressing F1 and then typing linux mem=xyM
> where xy is whatever memory you have less any memory shared for video less
> perhaps another MB which is used for ROMs and low memory when DOS/Windows
> boots.
>
> Civileme
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread civileme
On Thursday 06 March 2003 07:55 am, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to install
> both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done so far:
> (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)
>
> I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well
> with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I
> ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering
> several options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on the "Install
> Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ...
> installation will begin" (or to that effect).  When I clicked "OK" -
> nothing happened.
>
> SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. 
> Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program
> installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM.  Asks me
> which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly choose a driver to
> try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info.  Well, now I'm just
> lost.
>
> I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? 
> Would some kind sould please help me out?
>
> Diane Arsenault


Ummm, first of all, please set your mailer to plain text messages.  I had to 
retrieve yours from trash (i do scan trash for newbie messages), but that is 
where html mail from all the lists I am a member of goes first.

We need to know more about your hardware.  Since you are installing win95 it 
appears you may have an older computer, and there may be specific dodges or 
an older distro to employ to make that work.

So--we need to know your memory, your processor, and any information you can 
find about your motherboard chipset or video card...  It could be one of the 
older motherboards whose Basic Input-Output System(BIOS) misreports the 
memory map to the OS, and the latest linux kernels now trust the BIOS unless 
you override at install time by pressing F1 and then typing linux mem=xyM 
where xy is whatever memory you have less any memory shared for video less 
perhaps another MB which is used for ROMs and low memory when DOS/Windows 
boots.

Civileme


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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread et
On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:14 pm, et wrote:
> On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd
> > > is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just
> > > a stab in the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated
> > > at this point.
> > >
> > > Diane
> >
> > No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD
> > bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter
> > whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the
> > hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up).
> >
> > Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and
> > ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show
> > them the problem.
> >
> > Good luck!
>
> of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you
> can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a
> cdrom
this instruction is cut and pasted from the Mandrake 9.0 download edition CD#1 
a file called "install.txt" and you "should" be able to read this file even 
in Windows or Dos 

Make a boot floppy with Windows

   If your computer cannot boot from the CDROM and previous methods do
   not work, you must make a boot floppy under Windows as follows:

 * insert the CDROM, then open the icon "My Computer", right click on
   the CDROM drive icon and select "Open"
 * go into the "dosutils" directory and double-click on the
   "rawwritewin" icon
 * insert a blank floppy in the floppy drive
 * select "D:\images\cdrom.img" in the "Image File" field (assuming
   that your CDROM drive is "D:", otherwise replace "D:" as needed)
 * select "A:" in the "Floppy Drive" field then click on "Write".

   To begin the installation:

 * insert the CDROM in the drive, as well as the boot floppy, then
 * restart the computer.


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RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Jonathan Shilling
Dianne,
You may want to try disconnecting the cd-rw drive and leaving only
the cd-rom as secondary master, there may be a conflict between the two
drives.  If that works, check the device jumper settings on the two drives
and make sure that they are not both trying to claim the "master" setting,
Jonathan

> -Original Message-
> From: et [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> 9.0
> 
> 
> On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think 
> the actual Cd is
> > > the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot 
> Record??? Just a
> > > stab in the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much 
> appreciated at
> > > this point.
> > >
> > > Diane
> >
> > No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD
> > bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter
> > whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the
> > hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up).
> >
> > Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to 
> the store and
> > ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show
> > them the problem.
> >
> > Good luck!
> of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a 
> boot disk you 
> can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot 
> up from a cdrom
> 
> 


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RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Diane Arsenault
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
9.0



Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary
master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's are on "Auto".


Diane


P.S.  I have checked the cables - all is well



(Simon wrote the following to me):


just a thought here
if you go back to your bios menu...
usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen
you'll see something like this>
if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave


channel   type   start   end   blocks   type
1 IDE 0001  8787  8787    block
2  -  - - -    AUTO


seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved
to
problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom


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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0



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On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
> Dianne,
> You may need to go a step further and check your hardware
> connections.  Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to
the
> CD-rom drive itself.  Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if
> it has, then this could be your problem.  From what you described in your
> previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you
cables
> are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive.
> Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux!
> -Jonathan
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> > 9.0
> >
> >
> > Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the
> > top of the boot
> > priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> >
> > What now?
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing
> > Mandrake 9.0
> >
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer,
> >
> > and want to
> >
> > > > install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's
> >
> > what I've done
> >
> > > > so far:
> > > > (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram,
> >
> > 40 GB HDD)
> >
> > > > I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> > > > well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive
> >
> > (don't know
> >
> > > > why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a
> >
> > setup screen
> >
> > > > offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).
> >
> > When I click on
> >
> > > > the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying
> >
> > "your computer
> >
> > > > will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that
> >
> > effect).  When I
> >
> > > > clicked "OK" - nothing happened.
> > > >
> > > > SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and
> >
> > tried that
> >
> > > > way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer
> >
> > rebooted diring the
> >
> > > > program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> > > > CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).
> >
> > If I randomly
> >
> > > > choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked
> >
> > for kernel
> >
> > > > info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> > > > problem??  Would some kind sould plea

Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread et
On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd is
> > the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a
> > stab in the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated at
> > this point.
> >
> > Diane
>
> No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD
> bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter
> whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the
> hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up).
>
> Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and
> ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show
> them the problem.
>
> Good luck!
of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you 
can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom

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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread et
can you boot from a floppy?


On Thursday 06 March 2003 12:50 pm, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hi,
>
> No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd is
> the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab
> in the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated at this
> point.
>
> Diane
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
>
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the
>
> boot
>
> > > priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> > >
> > > What now?
> > >
> > > Diane
> >
> > Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I
> > ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted.
> >
> > Just to make sure.
> > --
> > __
> >/ \\   @   __ __@   Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258
> >  /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
> > /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797
> > www.bisapi.com   //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213)
>
> ---
>- 
>
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com


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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd is the
> problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in
> the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point.
> 
> Diane
No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD
bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter
whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the
hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up).

Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and
ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show
them the problem.

Good luck!
-- 
__   
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  /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258
 /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
/___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:56 pm, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary
> master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's are on "Auto".
>
> Diane
>
> P.S.  I have checked the cables - all is well

I've never come across this before - still desperate measures?  Have you tried 
the disk in both the cd-rom and the cd-rw?  If you have set cd as number 1 
boot it should try both.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, Marc Oestreicher wrote:
>   If you do not have a owners manual handy you can watch the screen closely
> during startup. You will probably see something saying press F1 or some
> other key to change settings. Press and hold that key. That should bring
> you to the BIOS setup screen. While you are in the bios you may also want
> to check if there is any setting for a plug and play OS sometimes called
> PNP or PNP OS. Disable or shut off this feature
>
Though be aware that on some systems there will be problems with windoew98 if 
pnp is shut off.  If that happens, switch it back on.  It seems to depend on 
your system.  I ran a dual boot with it switched on for a good while, without 
problems.  It's better off for Mandrake if you can, but if you can't get your 
windows to swallow it, just go with the flow.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Diane Arsenault
Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary
master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave.  Both CD's are on "Auto".

Diane

P.S.  I have checked the cables - all is well


(Simon wrote the following to me):

just a thought here
if you go back to your bios menu...
usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen
you'll see something like this>
if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave

channel   type   start   end   blocks   type
1 IDE 0001  8787  8787block
2  -  - - -AUTO

seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved
to
problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom

- Original Message -
From: "Simon Prosser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
> Dianne,
> You may need to go a step further and check your hardware
> connections.  Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to
the
> CD-rom drive itself.  Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if
> it has, then this could be your problem.  From what you described in your
> previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you
cables
> are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive.
> Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux!
> -Jonathan
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> > 9.0
> >
> >
> > Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the
> > top of the boot
> > priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> >
> > What now?
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing
> > Mandrake 9.0
> >
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer,
> >
> > and want to
> >
> > > > install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's
> >
> > what I've done
> >
> > > > so far:
> > > > (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram,
> >
> > 40 GB HDD)
> >
> > > > I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> > > > well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive
> >
> > (don't know
> >
> > > > why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a
> >
> > setup screen
> >
> > > > offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).
> >
> > When I click on
> >
> > > > the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying
> >
> > "your computer
> >
> > > > will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that
> >
> > effect).  When I
> >
> > > > clicked "OK" - nothing happened.
> > > >
> > > > SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and
> >
> > tried that
> >
> > > > way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer
> >
> > rebooted diring the
> >
> > > > program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> > > > CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).
> >
> > If I randomly
> >
> > > > choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked
> >
> > for kernel
> >
> > > > info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> > > > problem??  Would some kind sould please help me out?
> > > >
> > > > Diane Arsenault
> > >
> > > Hi Diane:
> > >
> > > Welcome to the list and to Linux.
> > >
> > > First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from
> >
> > CD. When you
>

Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Diane Arsenault
Hi,

No - I can't boot from any Cd at all.  So I don't think the actual Cd is the
problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in
the dark, mind you!  Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point.

Diane

- Original Message -
From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0


> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the
boot
> > priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> >
> > What now?
> >
> > Diane
>
> Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I
> ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted.
>
> Just to make sure.
> --
> __
>/ \\   @   __ __@   Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258
>  /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
> /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797
> www.bisapi.com   //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213)
>
>
>






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>


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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Simon Prosser
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Hash: SHA1

On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote:
> Dianne,
>   You may need to go a step further and check your hardware
> connections.  Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the
> CD-rom drive itself.  Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if
> it has, then this could be your problem.  From what you described in your
> previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables
> are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive.
>   Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux!
> -Jonathan
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> > 9.0
> >
> >
> > Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the
> > top of the boot
> > priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> >
> > What now?
> >
> > Diane
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing
> > Mandrake 9.0
> >
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer,
> >
> > and want to
> >
> > > > install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's
> >
> > what I've done
> >
> > > > so far:
> > > > (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram,
> >
> > 40 GB HDD)
> >
> > > > I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> > > > well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive
> >
> > (don't know
> >
> > > > why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a
> >
> > setup screen
> >
> > > > offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).
> >
> > When I click on
> >
> > > > the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying
> >
> > "your computer
> >
> > > > will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that
> >
> > effect).  When I
> >
> > > > clicked "OK" - nothing happened.
> > > >
> > > > SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and
> >
> > tried that
> >
> > > > way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer
> >
> > rebooted diring the
> >
> > > > program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> > > > CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).
> >
> > If I randomly
> >
> > > > choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked
> >
> > for kernel
> >
> > > > info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> > > > problem??  Would some kind sould please help me out?
> > > >
> > > > Diane Arsenault
> > >
> > > Hi Diane:
> > >
> > > Welcome to the list and to Linux.
> > >
> > > First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from
> >
> > CD. When you
> >
> > > reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a
> >
> > message about
> >
> > > hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter).
> > >
> > > After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented
> >
> > options that you
> >
> > > can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find
> >
> > something like
> >
> > > "Drive order to boot from". If you can find it, select the CD as the
> > > first unit to boot from.
> > >
> > > Let's try this and then post what you have got.
> > > --
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> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >   /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A,
> >
> > ICQ: 65910258
> >
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Lanman
Diane; You need to make a small change in your BIOS so that the CDROM drive is the 
first to boot. After that, everything will work fine. Check your owner's manual, and 
look for information which tells you how to enter your BIOS. Once you get into the 
BIOS, you should be able to change the order of the boot drives so that your CDROm is 
the first. Re-Start your install from scratch, using the first Mandrake CD to boot 
from, and you shold be in good shape. You can leave your BIOS as is after the istall, 
but remember that and CD's which are "Bootable" will launch the system if you leave 
them in the CDROM drive when starting or rebooting. Otherwise, change your BIOS back 
to the original settings after you've completed the install.

Lanman

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 3/6/2003 at 12:55 PM Diane Arsenault wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to
>install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done so
>far:
>(Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)
>
>I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well
>with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I
>ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering
>several options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on the "Install
>Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ...
>installation will begin" (or to that effect).  When I clicked "OK" -
>nothing happened.
>
>SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way.
>Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program
>installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM.  Asks me
>which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly choose a driver to
>try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info.  Well, now I'm just
>lost.
>
>I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem??
>Would some kind sould please help me out?
>
>Diane Arsenault




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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot
> priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> 
> What now?
> 
> Diane

Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I
ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted.

Just to make sure.
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 /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
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RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Jonathan Shilling
Dianne,
You may need to go a step further and check your hardware
connections.  Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the
CD-rom drive itself.  Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if
it has, then this could be your problem.  From what you described in your
previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables
are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive.  
Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux!
-Jonathan

> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake
> 9.0
> 
> 
> Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the 
> top of the boot
> priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.
> 
> What now?
> 
> Diane
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing 
> Mandrake 9.0
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, 
> and want to
> > > install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's 
> what I've done
> > > so far:
> > > (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 
> 40 GB HDD)
> > >
> > > I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> > > well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive 
> (don't know
> > > why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a 
> setup screen
> > > offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).  
> When I click on
> > > the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying 
> "your computer
> > > will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that 
> effect).  When I
> > > clicked "OK" - nothing happened.
> > >
> > > SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and 
> tried that
> > > way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer 
> rebooted diring the
> > > program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> > > CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  
> If I randomly
> > > choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked 
> for kernel
> > > info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
> > >
> > > I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> > > problem??  Would some kind sould please help me out?
> > >
> > > Diane Arsenault
> > >
> >
> > Hi Diane:
> >
> > Welcome to the list and to Linux.
> >
> > First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from 
> CD. When you
> > reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a 
> message about
> > hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter).
> >
> > After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented 
> options that you
> > can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find 
> something like
> > "Drive order to boot from". If you can find it, select the CD as the
> > first unit to boot from.
> >
> > Let's try this and then post what you have got.
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> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Marc Oestreicher
  If you do not have a owners manual handy you can watch the screen closely 
during startup. You will probably see something saying press F1 or some other 
key to change settings. Press and hold that key. That should bring you to the 
BIOS setup screen. While you are in the bios you may also want to check if 
there is any setting for a plug and play OS sometimes called PNP or PNP OS. 
Disable or shut off this feature

   Good luck
   and welcome to the group
   Marc


On Thursday 06 March 2003 05:05 pm, Lanman wrote:
> Diane; You need to make a small change in your BIOS so that the CDROM drive
> is the first to boot. After that, everything will work fine. Check your
> owner's manual, and look for information which tells you how to enter your
> BIOS. Once you get into the BIOS, you should be able to change the order of
> the boot drives so that your CDROm is the first. Re-Start your install from
> scratch, using the first Mandrake CD to boot from, and you shold be in good
> shape. You can leave your BIOS as is after the istall, but remember that
> and CD's which are "Bootable" will launch the system if you leave them in
> the CDROM drive when starting or rebooting. Otherwise, change your BIOS
> back to the original settings after you've completed the install.
>
> Lanman
>
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
> On 3/6/2003 at 12:55 PM Diane Arsenault wrote:
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to
> >install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done so
> >far:
> >(Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)
> >
> >I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well
> >with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I
> >ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering
> >several options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on the "Install
> >Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ...
> >installation will begin" (or to that effect).  When I clicked "OK" -
> >nothing happened.
> >
> >SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way.
> >Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program
> >installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM.  Asks me
> >which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly choose a driver to
> >try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info.  Well, now I'm just
> >lost.
> >
> >I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem??
> >Would some kind sould please help me out?
> >
> >Diane Arsenault

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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Diane Arsenault
Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies.

Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot
priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless.

What now?

Diane

- Original Message -
From: "Adolfo Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "MDK Mandrake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0


> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to
> > install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done
> > so far:
> > (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)
> >
> > I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> > well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know
> > why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen
> > offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on
> > the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer
> > will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that effect).  When I
> > clicked "OK" - nothing happened.
> >
> > SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that
> > way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the
> > program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> > CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly
> > choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel
> > info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
> >
> > I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> > problem??  Would some kind sould please help me out?
> >
> > Diane Arsenault
> >
>
> Hi Diane:
>
> Welcome to the list and to Linux.
>
> First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you
> reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about
> hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter).
>
> After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you
> can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like
> "Drive order to boot from". If you can find it, select the CD as the
> first unit to boot from.
>
> Let's try this and then post what you have got.
> --
> __
>/ \\   @   __ __@   Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258
>  /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
> /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797
> www.bisapi.com   //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213)
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Anders Lind
I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to install
both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done so far:
(Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)

Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles*

I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with
that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran
Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several
options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on the "Install Mandrake"
button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ... installation
will begin" (or to that effect).  When I clicked "OK" - nothing happened.

You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS

SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way.
Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program
installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM.  Asks me
which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly choose a driver to try
(what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info.  Well, now I'm just lost.

Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows?
If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom?
It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but
it is
the most common type)


Best Regards,
Anders


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Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0

2003-03-06 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>  
> I am totally new to Linux.  Just bought a new computer, and want to
> install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it.  Here's what I've done
> so far: 
> (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD)
>  
> I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went
> well with that.  Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know
> why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen
> offering several options (install, use floppy, etc).  When I click on
> the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer
> will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that effect).  When I
> clicked "OK" - nothing happened.  
>  
> SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that
> way.  Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the
> program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the
> CD-ROM.  Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea).  If I randomly
> choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel
> info.  Well, now I'm just lost.
>  
> I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar
> problem??  Would some kind sould please help me out?
>  
> Diane Arsenault
>  

Hi Diane:

Welcome to the list and to Linux.

First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you
reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about
hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter).

After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you
can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like
"Drive order to boot from". If you can find it, select the CD as the
first unit to boot from.

Let's try this and then post what you have got.
-- 
__   
   / \\   @   __ __@   Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  /  //  // /\   / \\   // \  //   Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258
 /  \\  // / \\ /  //  //  / //cel: +58 416 609-6213
/___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797
www.bisapi.com   //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213)


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