Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:
 
  Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
  'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
  brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
  her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
 
  T
 
 Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
 Windows on my main comp...
 

A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.

I returned the entir package because
(1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
is not acceptable
(2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
a dubious prospect.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-05 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:23 am, Hendrik Boom wrote:

 A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
 It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
 chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.

 I returned the entir package because
   (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
   is not acceptable
   (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
   a dubious prospect.

 -- hendrik

I understand. I think (re)booting to Windows *anytime* is unacceptable!

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-05 Thread rluchor
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:23, Hendrik Boom wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:18:55PM -0500, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
  On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:
  
   Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
   'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
   brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
   her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.
  
   T
  
  Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
  Windows on my main comp...
  
 
 A month or two ago I bought a refill for the cartridges on an Epson 777i.
 It came with a floppy disk of software to install in WIndows to reset the
 chip so the printer would accept the refilled cartridge.
 
 I returned the entir package because
   (1) Rebooting to WIndows every time the printer runs out of ink
   is not acceptable
   (2) Without a floppy drive on my computer, installation was
   a dubious prospect.
After the previous discussions about which printers have chips in their
cartridges I checked the Epson C62 manual and it only has the usual
Caution about refilling the carts because of the quality problems that
could ensue.  It also warns against drinking the ink!  Has this been a
problem in the past? g

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-05 Thread rluchor




On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:09, Todd Slater wrote:  Not if you cut it with vodka. However, it will scare the hell out of your 


 
 It's funny that you should mention him, I had an appointment with him
 this morning in preparation for a colonoscopy.  I'll lay off the ink for
 a few days before the procedure.
 
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perforated large intestine. It was nearly fatal.

So, good luck with that!

Thanks Todd. This Dr. did a colonoscopy on me 2 1/2 years ago and I know he's good, but I guess that sort of thing can happen anytime.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 11:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying
to outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes
recycling difficult.
  
   Exactly what do you mean by chipped?
 
  I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling
  them told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to
  recognise their own cartridges.

 That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused!  HP printer carts
 are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson
 carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment.  Can anyone else
 step in here and help me out?

Must be a difference in international markets.  I have a price list in front 
of me that says

stylus 680 black, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 colour, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 black, chipped
stylus 680, colour chipped

and so on...

There are also Canon, HP, Lexmark and Olivetti carts listed, but none of those 
brands show any mention of 'chipped'

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread rluchor




On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 05:20, Anne Wilson wrote:


 That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused!  HP printer carts
 are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson
 carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment.  Can anyone else
 step in here and help me out?

Must be a difference in international markets.  I have a price list in front 
of me that says

stylus 680 black, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 colour, not chipped for use with ILRS
stylus 680 black, chipped
stylus 680, colour chipped

and so on...

There are also Canon, HP, Lexmark and Olivetti carts listed, but none of those 
brands show any mention of 'chipped'

You're probably right about the differences in markets. My HP 930C (Hey, maybe the C stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges. The HP carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that reliable. I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle. The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for rotating three cartridges.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:06 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're probably right about the differences in markets.  My HP 930C
 (Hey, maybe the C stands for Chipped) is sitting in a box right now
 because it's too much of a hassle to deal with the cartridges.  The HP
 carts are too expensive and the recycled carts are not all that
 reliable.  I tried refilling my own carts, but that's also a hassle.
 The book that came with the refill inks was were I got the idea for
 rotating three cartridges.

 Rich

Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the C was for color...

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-02 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 02:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 
 Hmm, probably wrong but I always thought the C was for color...

Maybe we're wrong and the C stands for CONTRAST - the black against
the white, perchance?

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread Technoslick
On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
 my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor




On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:20, Technoslick wrote:

On Saturday 01 March 2003 01:39 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 Okay, about a week ago I posted a message about problems I was having with
 my Epson C62 printer.

Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software 'patch' 
to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is brand new? A 
friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get her own refils 
to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

This is true for HP printers. The usual way is to have a rotation of 3 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it back in the printer. Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find for my Epson printers without a problem. The C62 cart light is flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works very soon!

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
 last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
 back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
 printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
 expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.

 I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
 for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
 and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
 very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor




On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
 carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
 last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
 back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
 printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
 expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.

Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And I've 
taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that the printer 
wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a replacement.  
No problems at all.


I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have an older HP printer.


 I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
 for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is flashing
 and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement works
 very soon!

At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are available 
for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are 'guaranteed chipped'.  
I've also read recently that the EU are trying to outlaw the practise of 
chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling difficult.

Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

Rich




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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
   carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
   last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
   back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
   printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
   expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
 
  Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And
  I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
  the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
  replacement. No problems at all.

 I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have
 an older HP printer.

Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

   I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
   for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is
   flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
   works very soon!
 
  At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
  available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
  'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
  outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
  difficult.

 Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them 
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their 
own cartridges.

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Saturday 01 March 2003 02:20 pm, Technoslick wrote:

 Isn't it true on the newer inkjets that you need to apply a software
 'patch' to reset the chip, or fool it, into thinking that the refill is
 brand new? A friend who refills her own told me she had to do this to get
 her own refils to work. This was in Windows, BTW.

 T

Hmm, hadn't ever heard that but I guess its possible. Of course, I don't use 
Windows on my main comp...

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Re: [newbie] Epson printer warning!

2003-03-01 Thread rluchor




On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:08, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 15:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 01 Mar 2003 8:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This is true for HP printers.  The usual way is to have a rotation of 3
   carts to be refilled, the printer remembers the serial numbers of the
   last two carts it used and won't print if you refill a cart and put it
   back in the printer.  Which is the reason that I got rid of the HP
   printer and replaced it with an Epson C62, the HPs are just too
   expensive to operate and I don't see that much of a quality difference.
 
  Not true.  I've used recycled cartridges on my HP printer for ages.  And
  I've taken one out, put a new one in, and when I got a faulty one that
  the printer wouldn't accept I put the old one back in until I could get a
  replacement. No problems at all.

 I'm not sure what you mean by not true, but it sounds as if you have
 an older HP printer.

Deskjet 990Cxi - not old by any stretch of imagination.

   I've always used the cheapest replacement cartridges that I could find
   for my Epson printers without a problem.  The C62 cart light is
   flashing and I'm almost out of black ink, we'll see how the replacement
   works very soon!
 
  At local computer fairs I see that a lot of refilled cartridges are
  available for Epson printers, but some vendors say that they are
  'guaranteed chipped'. I've also read recently that the EU are trying to
  outlaw the practise of chipping cartridges, because it makes recycling
  difficult.

 Exactly what do you mean by chipped?

I don't know anything about the technology, other than people selling them 
told me that it is the way that Epson machines are rigged to recognise their 
own cartridges.

That's what I thought you meant, but now I'm confused! HP printer carts are the ones chipped here in the states and I'm not aware of any Epson carts being chipped, and I own 4 of them at the moment. Can anyone else step in here and help me out?

Rich



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