Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 23 February 2004 5:19 pm, Troy Thomas Hall wrote: whack I had a problem with the 2.6 kernel not booting after I did the first boot after the upgrade. I rebooted into the old-linux kernel which came up as 9.2 and it then said that it found a mouse. I told it ok, and viola, been using 2.6.2-3 ever since. Troy Been there, done that Troy. g I've installed or upgraded 9.1 and 9.2 systems from both betas 1 2 or RC1 and upgraded to cooker for quite a number of people with quite different systems. Everything just worked other than the usual cooker (fixable) gotchas. In addition to 2 fresh installs on new systems for 2 others Saturday and Sunday. Allasame like dat. eg This is different. My difficulty with 2.6 kernels seems to be either a hardware problem (highly unlikely) or the file system on hda. The reason I say that is simply that a USB drive formatted XFS on this machine when it still ran Five Stars (9.2) is available, can be browsed, and is writable as root on any GNU/Linux system that I've plugged it into. The drive was set up the same day I did the full install of 9.2 Final here. However on one of the new systems I mentioned I had installed RC1 I tried to use it as a source for the upgrade from RC1 to current using the boot.iso from cooker. I got a No valid file system detected warning/error from that, whether the drive was still in the USB cradle or if I slaved it directly to hda. I had to boot back into RC1, copy the cooker tree from that drive to the system's second hard drive, then do the hd upgrade that way. It worked very well and was exceptionally quick and painless, which is a good thing since they don't have a broad band connection for an ftp install/upgrade. I also taught them how to keep the tree current using rsync so they should be OK now; low bandwidth notwithstanding. I'm going to have to make a final stab at this sometime this week by using one of the LiveCD project disks to wipe hda completely, then try a fresh install. It's obvious to me that the boot, whether from an install disk or a regular boot, is stopping at a hardware (IDE) detection stage, There are no console messages or logs so I'm shooting in the dark, but IMHO it probably occurs because hda is all formatted XFS except a small ext3 /boot partition. It's not the first time a file system and/or kernel upgrade has bitten me on the ass, it's unlikely that it will be the last. (-; Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc4.1mdk 09:12:49 up 19:14, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.30, 0.50 Nonsense and beauty have close connections. -- E.M. Forster -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAO39xZqvqlrLPr5YRAt79AKCX3EP7QAEBe/Y/JOalaNm+9rOU0QCggHhb 7RV5wa5ANaM3cl2ckO1SmDA= =yRGR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
Lanman wrote: On February 19, 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? Saludos Fabian Wow! Mister Lanman ? Gee, I feel like I should be wearing a tie! Anybody wanna buy a bridge ? Grin! This is the page where you can find the download links. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/100beta.php3 I can't say for sure whether or not it will work well on your system, but if you back up your files and home folders before starting an install, you can always re-install 9.2 and copy your data back - if needed. If your install goes as well as mine did, I think you'll enjoy it! You should see a difference in performance as well. Remember to set / for 2.5 Gb's and /usr for at least the same amount. /var can live with 1.5 Gb's, and you should make your swap file at least 400 Mb's. On a side note, I wanted to ask the list about something I just discovered. When I did my 10.0 RC1 install, I created a 4 Gb root partition ( / ), a swap and /home partitions as well. However, the /usr partition used up almost half of that. The next time I went to install an application, I found out that I was out of space onn the / partition. Having some left over space on my drive to be used as storage, I deleted the storage partition, and added a new /usr partition. This is where it's gets a little sexy. As soon as I selected /usr for the mount point, diskdrake popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to transfer the data from the /usr directory ( still sitting on the / partition ), to the new /usr partition i was creating. It then procedded to transfer the data without a problem, updated /etc/fstab, and it was done! Is this a feature that everyone knew about? Or is this a new feature in 10.0 ? Has anyone had this happen before? This was slick! I've never heard of an auto-transfer before! Almost felt like Artificial Intelligence! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dan, 9.2 did that for me when I needed to expand the partition. It was slick. Also, just as an fyi, my update of 10 on top of 9.2 went smooth as silk once I figured out that the next buttons were missing... ewww Troy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
Charlie Mahan wrote: Thursday 19 February 2004 9:33 am, Lanman wrote: On February 19, 2004 11:09 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: That's been a feature since at least 9.2. Probably earlier, I can't recall precisely when I first encountered it Maybe 9.0 or 9.1? I thought everyone knew about it. Regards; Charlie Not everyone Charlie. Sigh! But it IS pretty kewl, eh? When I start thinking like that (I thought everyone knew...) it reminds me that I'm assembling, installing, upgrading, and configuring, _*way too many*_ systems again. Hobby? Yeah.sure...if you say so. g Always for other people. One of these days, maybe, if I find the extra cash and the time I like what I've seen of Mandrake 10 so far. Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. I had a problem with the 2.6 kernel not booting after I did the first boot after the upgrade. I rebooted into the old-linux kernel which came up as 9.2 and it then said that it found a mouse. I told it ok, and viola, been using 2.6.2-3 ever since. Troy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
What motherboard are you using? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aron Smith Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1 On Thursday 19 February 2004 06:53 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? There are still some problems with drakconnect with wireless and more complex setups, and lots of people are reporting that the network interfaces are not restarting on boot, but otherwise, she looks great. A few niggles here and there, but overall in good shape. Of course, YMMV. If you want to try it, be prepared to deal with some hand configuration of your net interfaces, keeping in mind that module-init-tools changes the location of a bunch of stuff with a 2.6 kernel. Probably it's just me but.. I had the Beta runnig good tried to up grade to RC1 and completely hosed the system (so bad I couldn't even reboot two frustrating days and nights finaly went out and bought Discovery hey at least I'm back on line think I'll wait for RC2 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 11:25 pm, Aron Smith wrote: Probably it's just me but.. I had the Beta runnig good tried to up grade to RC1 and completely hosed the system (so bad I couldn't even reboot two frustrating days and nights finaly went out and bought Discovery hey at least I'm back on line think I'll wait for RC2 That kind of thinkin can often backfire. Many times in the past, the early cooker betas work fine on _most_ peoples systems. For those it doesn't, bugs are filed and 'fixes' issued. What happens is that the fixes sometimes break or deteriorate the current cooker for the _most_ that weren't havin problems. OTOH, I wish Mandrake would do away with RC's altogether. Many delay tryin the new release till it's at least at the RC stage. BUT, by this time in the development process it's _way_ too late, the distro in in deep freeze. RC2 is due this Sunday, Final is due next Thursday. Both those dates are already a week to ten days past the original schedule. My guess is that RC2 will become the final. That's often happened in the past. If you have any beta or RC1 kept cooker current, as of this weekend you'll be _very_ close to 10.0 Final. 'Course this time, reality has been injected. 10.0 Final is really Beta 1 for the commercial 'Official 10.0' box sets to come a month or so later. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Friday 20 February 2004 11:11 am, Sweeney, Stephen wrote: 10.0 Final is due next Thursday? Well... In that case I won't bother doing my 9.0 to 9.2 this weekend... What's the point? :) 9.2 is stable and very smooth, 10.0 has a few rough edges yet and will even after release. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? Saludos Fabian --- Using MDK in Mendoza, Argentina. From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:15:33 -0500 On February 18, 2004 10:49 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: This is the best I have seen at rc1. I still have a bit of a problem with my mouse, but nothing I can not live with. It is a logitech usb wheel mouse hooked up to a KVM switch with a PS/2 adaptor. Some times it goes nuts for just a bit and then it is ok. Not often, I believe it is when the cpu or ram are running near 100% but not able to tell for sure. Anyway, lanman called it right, be afraid MS be very afraid. PS. check out the Personal Information Manager on the toolbar. Very cool. I really like the new menu format too. Dennis; I'm using the exact same mouse on mine. Trust me - it's the KVM that's making your mouse go nuts. Mine will take off across the screen for a scond, every once in a while, but that's just the optics in the mouse getting a nastly reflection off the desk or table that you're using. -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On February 19, 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? Saludos Fabian Wow! Mister Lanman ? Gee, I feel like I should be wearing a tie! Anybody wanna buy a bridge ? Grin! This is the page where you can find the download links. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/100beta.php3 I can't say for sure whether or not it will work well on your system, but if you back up your files and home folders before starting an install, you can always re-install 9.2 and copy your data back - if needed. If your install goes as well as mine did, I think you'll enjoy it! You should see a difference in performance as well. Remember to set / for 2.5 Gb's and /usr for at least the same amount. /var can live with 1.5 Gb's, and you should make your swap file at least 400 Mb's. On a side note, I wanted to ask the list about something I just discovered. When I did my 10.0 RC1 install, I created a 4 Gb root partition ( / ), a swap and /home partitions as well. However, the /usr partition used up almost half of that. The next time I went to install an application, I found out that I was out of space onn the / partition. Having some left over space on my drive to be used as storage, I deleted the storage partition, and added a new /usr partition. This is where it's gets a little sexy. As soon as I selected /usr for the mount point, diskdrake popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to transfer the data from the /usr directory ( still sitting on the / partition ), to the new /usr partition i was creating. It then procedded to transfer the data without a problem, updated /etc/fstab, and it was done! Is this a feature that everyone knew about? Or is this a new feature in 10.0 ? Has anyone had this happen before? This was slick! I've never heard of an auto-transfer before! Almost felt like Artificial Intelligence! -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? There are still some problems with drakconnect with wireless and more complex setups, and lots of people are reporting that the network interfaces are not restarting on boot, but otherwise, she looks great. A few niggles here and there, but overall in good shape. Of course, YMMV. If you want to try it, be prepared to deal with some hand configuration of your net interfaces, keeping in mind that module-init-tools changes the location of a bunch of stuff with a 2.6 kernel. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On February 19, 2004 09:53 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? There are still some problems with drakconnect with wireless and more complex setups, and lots of people are reporting that the network interfaces are not restarting on boot, but otherwise, she looks great. A few niggles here and there, but overall in good shape. Of course, YMMV. If you want to try it, be prepared to deal with some hand configuration of your net interfaces, keeping in mind that module-init-tools changes the location of a bunch of stuff with a 2.6 kernel. You read my mind Greg! Any ideas on how to force it to work? Is it possible to create a symbolic link to the driver location that module-init-tools would be happy with? -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
Not to sure when it started but I have seen it before in Mdk. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lanman Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1 On February 19, 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? Saludos Fabian Wow! Mister Lanman ? Gee, I feel like I should be wearing a tie! Anybody wanna buy a bridge ? Grin! This is the page where you can find the download links. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/100beta.php3 I can't say for sure whether or not it will work well on your system, but if you back up your files and home folders before starting an install, you can always re-install 9.2 and copy your data back - if needed. If your install goes as well as mine did, I think you'll enjoy it! You should see a difference in performance as well. Remember to set / for 2.5 Gb's and /usr for at least the same amount. /var can live with 1.5 Gb's, and you should make your swap file at least 400 Mb's. On a side note, I wanted to ask the list about something I just discovered. When I did my 10.0 RC1 install, I created a 4 Gb root partition ( / ), a swap and /home partitions as well. However, the /usr partition used up almost half of that. The next time I went to install an application, I found out that I was out of space onn the / partition. Having some left over space on my drive to be used as storage, I deleted the storage partition, and added a new /usr partition. This is where it's gets a little sexy. As soon as I selected /usr for the mount point, diskdrake popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to transfer the data from the /usr directory ( still sitting on the / partition ), to the new /usr partition i was creating. It then procedded to transfer the data without a problem, updated /etc/fstab, and it was done! Is this a feature that everyone knew about? Or is this a new feature in 10.0 ? Has anyone had this happen before? This was slick! I've never heard of an auto-transfer before! Almost felt like Artificial Intelligence! -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
It sounded like MR ANDERSON isnt it?? - MATRIX :-) From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:25:16 -0500 On February 19, 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? Saludos Fabian Wow! Mister Lanman ? Gee, I feel like I should be wearing a tie! Anybody wanna buy a bridge ? Grin! This is the page where you can find the download links. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/100beta.php3 I can't say for sure whether or not it will work well on your system, but if you back up your files and home folders before starting an install, you can always re-install 9.2 and copy your data back - if needed. If your install goes as well as mine did, I think you'll enjoy it! You should see a difference in performance as well. Remember to set / for 2.5 Gb's and /usr for at least the same amount. /var can live with 1.5 Gb's, and you should make your swap file at least 400 Mb's. On a side note, I wanted to ask the list about something I just discovered. When I did my 10.0 RC1 install, I created a 4 Gb root partition ( / ), a swap and /home partitions as well. However, the /usr partition used up almost half of that. The next time I went to install an application, I found out that I was out of space onn the / partition. Having some left over space on my drive to be used as storage, I deleted the storage partition, and added a new /usr partition. This is where it's gets a little sexy. As soon as I selected /usr for the mount point, diskdrake popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to transfer the data from the /usr directory ( still sitting on the / partition ), to the new /usr partition i was creating. It then procedded to transfer the data without a problem, updated /etc/fstab, and it was done! Is this a feature that everyone knew about? Or is this a new feature in 10.0 ? Has anyone had this happen before? This was slick! I've never heard of an auto-transfer before! Almost felt like Artificial Intelligence! -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.latam.msn.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 19 February 2004 7:25 am, Lanman wrote: whack Wow! Mister Lanman ? Gee, I feel like I should be wearing a tie! Anybody wanna buy a bridge ? Grin! This is the page where you can find the download links. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/100beta.php3 I can't say for sure whether or not it will work well on your system, but if you back up your files and home folders before starting an install, you can always re-install 9.2 and copy your data back - if needed. If your install goes as well as mine did, I think you'll enjoy it! You should see a difference in performance as well. Remember to set / for 2.5 Gb's and /usr for at least the same amount. /var can live with 1.5 Gb's, and you should make your swap file at least 400 Mb's. On a side note, I wanted to ask the list about something I just discovered. When I did my 10.0 RC1 install, I created a 4 Gb root partition ( / ), a swap and /home partitions as well. However, the /usr partition used up almost half of that. The next time I went to install an application, I found out that I was out of space onn the / partition. Having some left over space on my drive to be used as storage, I deleted the storage partition, and added a new /usr partition. This is where it's gets a little sexy. As soon as I selected /usr for the mount point, diskdrake popped up a new window asking me if I wanted to transfer the data from the /usr directory ( still sitting on the / partition ), to the new /usr partition i was creating. It then procedded to transfer the data without a problem, updated /etc/fstab, and it was done! Is this a feature that everyone knew about? Or is this a new feature in 10.0 ? Has anyone had this happen before? This was slick! I've never heard of an auto-transfer before! Almost felt like Artificial Intelligence! That's been a feature since at least 9.2. Probably earlier, I can't recall precisely when I first encountered it Maybe 9.0 or 9.1? I thought everyone knew about it. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc3.1mdk 09:05:18 up 1 day, 10:57, 1 user, load average: 0.47, 0.33, 0.32 Not only is God dead, but just try to find a plumber on weekends. - --Woody Allen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFANN+kZqvqlrLPr5YRAvAtAKCtci6Nt+utWtlwuu4TyN6FbO0VfACeK7Mm 0qtfoW3RoLPX3Qc+EQDiVc0= =Pafz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On February 19, 2004 11:12 am, di di wrote: It sounded like MR ANDERSON isnt it?? - MATRIX :-) Actually, it sounded a lot like Agent Smith ! LOL! Agent Smith - a.k.a. Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On February 19, 2004 11:09 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: That's been a feature since at least 9.2. Probably earlier, I can't recall precisely when I first encountered it Maybe 9.0 or 9.1? I thought everyone knew about it. Regards; Charlie Not everyone Charlie. Sigh! But it IS pretty kewl, eh? -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
From: di di [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/02/19 Thu AM 07:54:39 CST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1 Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? I have 9.2 running on a Dell Inspiron 266MHz with 144MB ram, and KDE works well. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 19 February 2004 9:33 am, Lanman wrote: On February 19, 2004 11:09 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: That's been a feature since at least 9.2. Probably earlier, I can't recall precisely when I first encountered it Maybe 9.0 or 9.1? I thought everyone knew about it. Regards; Charlie Not everyone Charlie. Sigh! But it IS pretty kewl, eh? When I start thinking like that (I thought everyone knew...) it reminds me that I'm assembling, installing, upgrading, and configuring, _*way too many*_ systems again. Hobby? Yeah.sure...if you say so. g Always for other people. One of these days, maybe, if I find the extra cash and the time I like what I've seen of Mandrake 10 so far. Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc3.1mdk 10:13:53 up 1 day, 12:05, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 1.25, 1.68 Money is the root of all money. - -- the moving finger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFANPCbZqvqlrLPr5YRAqwPAJ9Zl5b739gmn7Uk6jmF5yLNqpPsYgCdGv62 y7kUAZv9cPrRxlug1kUwpRk= =pDrS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On February 19, 2004 12:21 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: I like what I've seen of Mandrake 10 so far. Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. The 2.6 kernel is what makes the difference in performance, I think. Beta 2 ran like a whiz on my PC's, but like a dawg on my laptop. Now it runs fast on all of them. Go Figure! Just as an indicator, you'll see as much as 40% improvement in speed. It's like putting DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 on a P4-3.0 Ghz Hyper-threading system for me. Oh! Silly me, it IS a P4 ! Seriously though, it's much more faster-er-er than it was. -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Smart IT people are staring out the window into the eye of a giant penguin! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 05:15 am, Lanman wrote: On February 18, 2004 10:49 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: This is the best I have seen at rc1. I still have a bit of a problem with my mouse, but nothing I can not live with. It is a logitech usb wheel mouse hooked up to a KVM switch with a PS/2 adaptor. Some times it goes nuts for just a bit and then it is ok. Not often, I believe it is when the cpu or ram are running near 100% but not able to tell for sure. Anyway, lanman called it right, be afraid MS be very afraid. PS. check out the Personal Information Manager on the toolbar. Very cool. I really like the new menu format too. Dennis; I'm using the exact same mouse on mine. Trust me - it's the KVM that's making your mouse go nuts. Mine will take off across the screen for a scond, every once in a while, but that's just the optics in the mouse getting a nastly reflection off the desk or table that you're using. Ok, I won't try to solve something that I can't fix. Thanks, -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 11:21 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 19 February 2004 9:33 am, Lanman wrote: On February 19, 2004 11:09 am, Charlie Mahan wrote: That's been a feature since at least 9.2. Probably earlier, I can't recall precisely when I first encountered it Maybe 9.0 or 9.1? I thought everyone knew about it. Regards; Charlie Not everyone Charlie. Sigh! But it IS pretty kewl, eh? When I start thinking like that (I thought everyone knew...) it reminds me that I'm assembling, installing, upgrading, and configuring, _*way too many*_ systems again. Hobby? Yeah.sure...if you say so. g Always for other people. One of these days, maybe, if I find the extra cash and the time I like what I've seen of Mandrake 10 so far. Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc3.1mdk 10:13:53 up 1 day, 12:05, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 1.25, 1.68 Money is the root of all money. - -- the moving finger -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFANPCbZqvqlrLPr5YRAqwPAJ9Zl5b739gmn7Uk6jmF5yLNqpPsYgCdGv62 y7kUAZv9cPrRxlug1kUwpRk= =pDrS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Charlie, when I installed it installs two kernels a 2.4.xx and the 2.6.xx kernel, and the 2.4 ended up as default. When I changed lilo to boot the 2.6.xx, that is when I saw the speed increase. You might do a uname -v and see which one you have running. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 19 February 2004 3:43 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: whack Charlie, when I installed it installs two kernels a 2.4.xx and the 2.6.xx kernel, and the 2.4 ended up as default. When I changed lilo to boot the 2.6.xx, that is when I saw the speed increase. You might do a uname -v and see which one you have running. HTH Hi Dennis; When I made the statement; Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. I meant exactly that. I can't install from any of the cooker snapshots, I can't boot any of the 2.6 kernels. I've tried everything I can think of and everything I've seen suggested on this, the expert, and the cooker lists. The system is cooker current because I did a urpmi upgrade. It's kept current. No joy. At all. 2.6 kernels just hang after being selected at the LILO screen. No logs, no errors, no nothing at all. Zero activity. BTW, you can see for yourself which kernel is running on this system by checking the signature attached to my posts. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc3.1mdk 17:01:32 up 1 day, 18:53, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.06 Hacker's Quicky #313: Sour Cream -n- Onion Potato Chips Microwave Egg Roll Chocolate Milk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFANVC+ZqvqlrLPr5YRAqssAKCdTHkNyihj4Hnq0btGs1eFp2vdGACgh0yk DfcfOTDJizAXXFTun/ieXt0= =qleH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 06:11 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 19 February 2004 3:43 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: whack Charlie, when I installed it installs two kernels a 2.4.xx and the 2.6.xx kernel, and the 2.4 ended up as default. When I changed lilo to boot the 2.6.xx, that is when I saw the speed increase. You might do a uname -v and see which one you have running. HTH Hi Dennis; When I made the statement; Except I'm not seeing any smoking performance increase and I can't make a 2.6 kernel boot under any circumstances on this old POS. I meant exactly that. I can't install from any of the cooker snapshots, I can't boot any of the 2.6 kernels. I've tried everything I can think of and everything I've seen suggested on this, the expert, and the cooker lists. The system is cooker current because I did a urpmi upgrade. It's kept current. No joy. At all. 2.6 kernels just hang after being selected at the LILO screen. No logs, no errors, no nothing at all. Zero activity. BTW, you can see for yourself which kernel is running on this system by checking the signature attached to my posts. g Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (RC1) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.rc3.1mdk 17:01:32 up 1 day, 18:53, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.06 Hacker's Quicky #313: Sour Cream -n- Onion Potato Chips Microwave Egg Roll Chocolate Milk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFANVC+ZqvqlrLPr5YRAqssAKCdTHkNyihj4Hnq0btGs1eFp2vdGACgh0yk DfcfOTDJizAXXFTun/ieXt0= =qleH -END PGP SIGNATURE- oops, lack of concentration while reading. Most puzzling. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:11:42 -0700 Charlie Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No joy. At all. 2.6 kernels just hang after being selected at the LILO screen. No logs, no errors, no nothing at all. Zero activity. Just as a thought, have you tried the tmb kernels? I started with 2.6.2-0.pre something or other a few weeks ago, currently use 2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdk. I've been using it for 11 days now. Charlie -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML10.0rc1
On Thursday 19 February 2004 06:53 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 19 February 2004 08:54 am, di di wrote: Well Mr. Lanmanaccording to you.it might be time to be switching from my 9,2 mdk to this one you are sayingor should I wait for a more stable version? if not, would you give me the mirror for downloading??? I´ll install it on a compaq presario laptop k6-2 366mhz and 160 mb in ramwill these requirements fullfill? There are still some problems with drakconnect with wireless and more complex setups, and lots of people are reporting that the network interfaces are not restarting on boot, but otherwise, she looks great. A few niggles here and there, but overall in good shape. Of course, YMMV. If you want to try it, be prepared to deal with some hand configuration of your net interfaces, keeping in mind that module-init-tools changes the location of a bunch of stuff with a 2.6 kernel. Probably it's just me but.. I had the Beta runnig good tried to up grade to RC1 and completely hosed the system (so bad I couldn't even reboot two frustrating days and nights finaly went out and bought Discovery hey at least I'm back on line think I'll wait for RC2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
