RE: [newbie] Tape Backup drive?
OK sounds like you have an ide tape drive. Actions you can take to start with include : a) run dmesg on the command line and check the output to see if the tape drive is recognised by the m/c. If the drive isn't recognised then you have an uphill task on your hands. So, open a console window, type 'dmesg | more' which will allow you to examine the boot and initialisation process a screen at a time. Look for a message that is identifying your drive, maybe as st0 or tape. b) check the Howto on ftape. It was installed as part of your installation process and is certainly available under documentation on the kde desktop. Hope this gives you a starting point. Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates 07710 908817
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup drive?
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Re: [newbie] Tape Backup drive?
Okay, sorry 'bout that. I'm not sure if it is IDE or not. It's defintely not SCSI! The data ribbon cable (from the tape drive) connects directly into the data ribbon cable on my floppy drive. It uses QIC 120 mb cartridges. As for the question Have you tried using any standard devices in /dev? well shoot how would a NEWBIE know they were even there?? I did ask WHAT was the proceedure for setting up a tape drive in Linux in my original post, because I didn't know! Now that you've mentioned it, I will go try that. Thank you for the input. Michael On Tuesday 22 May 2001 12:16 pm, you wrote: You haven't really provided much information here. Is this IDE or SCSI? Have you tried using any of the standard tape devises in /dev ? Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates
Re: [newbie] Tape backup
Todd Flinders wrote: I've read in reviews that Arkeia and Bru are supposed to be good. --- Daryl Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First get your tape drive working - and if you do, then let me know how you did it! Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly, Christopher Sent: 13 April 2001 19:50 To: 'Newbie' Subject: [newbie] Tape backup Does anybody have any suggestions for good tape backup software for Linux? Thanks, Moose __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ I use Arkeia - free verion, its nice and easy to use if you're into GUI's, just define your tape drive and media pools and off you go Only thing is this version doesn't support autoloaders, if this is an issue then there is a cool utility called SCU which allows you to send SCSI commands to devices via shell or script file. You can d/load these at: http://www.arkeia.com/downloadfree.html http://www.bit-net.com/~rmiller/scu.html -- Brenden J. Bourke "The ice-man, Cometh... It is making certain parts of little me rather numb"
Re: [newbie] Tape backup
Todd Flinders wrote: I've read in reviews that Arkeia and Bru are supposed to be good. I use Arkeia - free verion, its nice and easy to use if you're into GUI's, just define your tape drive and media pools and off you go Only thing is this version doesn't support autoloaders, if this is an issue then there is a cool utility called SCU which allows you to send SCSI commands to devices via shell or script file. Are there any similar software apps for ATAPI tape drives? My drive is an ATAPI one not a SCSI. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] Tape backup
Are there any similar software apps for ATAPI tape drives? My drive is an ATAPI one not a SCSI. As long as the software allows you to specify the device, there really shouldn't be a difference between IDE tape drives and scsi ones. IDE tape drives use a different device than SCSI ones. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
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Really? I ask because the website for Arkeia says that the requirement is that you have a SCSI tapedrive. Does this mean it could work with my ATAPI drive? Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Tape backup Are there any similar software apps for ATAPI tape drives? My drive is an ATAPI one not a SCSI. As long as the software allows you to specify the device, there really shouldn't be a difference between IDE tape drives and scsi ones. IDE tape drives use a different device than SCSI ones. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
RE: [newbie] Tape backup
Taking a second bite at this though, tar is fine and has plenty of options to allow you to achieve all sorts of different results from a backup but if this isn't enough there's always taper which certainly came with my distro. Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly, Christopher Sent: 13 April 2001 19:50 To: 'Newbie' Subject: [newbie] Tape backup Does anybody have any suggestions for good tape backup software for Linux? Thanks, Moose
RE: [newbie] Tape backup
First get your tape drive working - and if you do, then let me know how you did it! Daryl Johnson Proplan Associates -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly, Christopher Sent: 13 April 2001 19:50 To: 'Newbie' Subject: [newbie] Tape backup Does anybody have any suggestions for good tape backup software for Linux? Thanks, Moose
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup Problems
I think I had to make sure mt-st was installed (maybe taper too, can't remember). Michelle On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, you wrote: Michelle, thank you for your e-mail. I'd appreciate it if you could advise me as to how you went about invoking those commands. I tried using them under the bash shell, but only received error messages saying those commands could not be found. John On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote: I was having similar problems. I needed to do the following: insmod ftape insmod zftape in that order before anything would work Michelle On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote: Hi there, I have set up my PC (a Gateway G6-233) as a dual boot systen. I am able to boot into Windows 95 and Linux Mandrake 7.0 without any problems. I have a Seagate tape drive which works perfectly well under Windows. When I boot into Linux the operating system seems to recognise its presence and call it hdd. However, when I attempt to run the tape backup software I keep getting the message "Tape not in drive". What do I need to do to resolve this? Thanking you in advance for your assistance. Yours faithfully, John Wallis ---
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup Problems
you went about invoking those commands. I tried using them under the bash shell, but only received error messages saying those commands could not be found. As root? Just checking, that message can be misleading
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup Problems
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Michelle Schneider wrote: I think I had to make sure mt-st was installed (maybe taper too, can't remember). Michelle insmod ftape insmod zftape I have set up my PC (a Gateway G6-233) as a dual boot systen. I am able to boot into Windows 95 and Linux Mandrake 7.0 without any problems. I have a Seagate tape drive which works perfectly well under Windows. When I boot into Linux the operating system seems to recognise its presence and call it hdd. However, when I attempt to run the tape backup software I keep getting the message "Tape not in drive". What do I need to do to resolve this? After trying to make something sensible out of this, I see that you own an IDE tape drive, seagate. Do not access it as /dev/hdd, that won't work. It's device name is /dev/ht0 (h t zero) I have not been able to run it with "kdat", I think that is meant for SCSI Dat drives. I backup with tar. Syntax: tar -c -v -f /dev/ht0 dir dir dir -c means: create new backup volume from start of tape -v: be verbose (you can leave it off once you know things work ok) -f /dev/ht0: backup to the IDE tapedrive dir: a list of directories you want backed up Good luck! Paul )0(---)0( A gentleman is someone who remembers his wifes birthday but not her age. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup Problems
I was having similar problems. I needed to do the following: insmod ftape insmod zftape in that order before anything would work Michelle On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, you wrote: Hi there, I have set up my PC (a Gateway G6-233) as a dual boot systen. I am able to boot into Windows 95 and Linux Mandrake 7.0 without any problems. I have a Seagate tape drive which works perfectly well under Windows. When I boot into Linux the operating system seems to recognise its presence and call it hdd. However, when I attempt to run the tape backup software I keep getting the message "Tape not in drive". What do I need to do to resolve this? Thanking you in advance for your assistance. Yours faithfully, John Wallis ---
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup
Try BRU for backups, it's a nice utility with a gui if you need it. Not open source, but they've supported linux since the early days. On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, you wrote: What is a good tape backup solution for Linux? I'm looking for something cheap that can backup 10-20 GB at a time. I would like to use the backup software that comes with Linux too. Thanks for your input. Jason Peterson -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup
Tekram 390u2w is a nice card with good support. I'm running it along with a IBM u2w 4.5 gig drive and a Seagate 4/8 travan tape. The card costs around $200, the drive $210, and the tape unit $275 with one tape. On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, you wrote: A nice DAT drive (4mm or 8mm) would do quite well. Finding one at a reasonable price is another question. Also, it'll require that you have a SCSI card of some sort. Right now, the leader in SCSI cards as far as Linux is concerned is Advansys. However, I've heard some problems with their cards (SCSI bus resets, etc.) so I'd consider paying more for an Adaptec, especially since Adaptec is starting to support Linux now. Just my 2ยข worth! :-) John - Original Message - From: Petey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: [newbie] Tape Backup What is a good tape backup solution for Linux? I'm looking for something cheap that can backup 10-20 GB at a time. I would like to use the backup software that comes with Linux too. Thanks for your input. Jason Peterson -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Tape Backup
On 12-Aug-99 Petey wrote: What is a good tape backup solution for Linux? I'm looking for something cheap that can backup 10-20 GB at a time. I would like to use the backup software that comes with Linux too. Thanks for your input. Jason Peterson I use BRU, a commercial solution. It's not too expensive and they have a 60 day return policy if you don't like it. It works great for me and spending a few bucks to have something reliable is worth every cent. You could also try TAPER, which is free. The newest version is 6.9a. The most serious bugs seem to be gone, so it's worth a look. --- Jonathan Dlouhy Principal Oboe, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra - God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, courage to change the things we can, and wisdom to know the difference.
Re: [newbie] Tape Backup
What kind of hardware do you have? I've arranged to purchase an Exabyte tape drive, but it's only about a 2-gig drive, and, like the other gentleman, I need something that'll do about 10 gigs+. The only DAT drives I've seen which can do that, are over $500 for the drive alone! I would prefer something relatively fast, so I dont have to spend all day and all night just backing up one system! Thanks... John - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Tape Backup On 12-Aug-99 Petey wrote: What is a good tape backup solution for Linux? I'm looking for something cheap that can backup 10-20 GB at a time. I would like to use the backup software that comes with Linux too. Thanks for your input. Jason Peterson I use BRU, a commercial solution. It's not too expensive and they have a 60 day return policy if you don't like it. It works great for me and spending a few bucks to have something reliable is worth every cent. You could also try TAPER, which is free. The newest version is 6.9a. The most serious bugs seem to be gone, so it's worth a look. --- Jonathan Dlouhy Principal Oboe, Atlanta Symphony Orchestra - God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, courage to change the things we can, and wisdom to know the difference.
