Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 3:31 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23, Lee Wiggers wrote:

 snip

  I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've
  learned, is that you are then his only source of assistance.
 
  I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
  source of aggravation.

 /snip

 Same here, Lee. The solution : Give the set of CD's to a FEMALE.

 Kaj Haulrich.

Female slavery was outlawed a long time ago g

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Margot
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:

snip

The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
sources back again ;-)
/snip

Which brings up a rather naive question :

Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then 
decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
newbie has two sources for main.

What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch 
the blinkenlights on your modem ?

Kaj Haulrich. 

See attached snapshot for how I've got my urpmi sources listed - I have 
the 2 official CDs from Mandrake, some online sources, and the 3 CDs 
from Linux Format mag. Only the online source for 'main' is labelled as 
'main', the CD sources have different labels. So far, urpmi seems to 
have worked intelligently and checked the CD sources first, only going 
to the online sources if I'm trying to get a package that isn't on any 
of the CDs.

Margot

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Margot
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip

Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
/snip

Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from

Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
about Darwinism.

Kaj Haulrich.



I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
is that you are then his only source of assistance.
I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
source of aggravation.
Lee

Married 4 times? Don't you ever LEARN from your mistakes? ;-)

Margot (married and divorced only twice so far...)



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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread Lee Wiggers
Onsnip  
  I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've
  learned, is that you are then his only source of assistance.
  
  I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
  source of aggravation.
  
  Lee
 
 
 Married 4 times? Don't you ever LEARN from your mistakes? ;-)
 
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It's like bashing your head against the wallIt feels so good
when you quit.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:13:41 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then 
 decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
 Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
 main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
 newbie has two sources for main.

It won't let you have two sources named the same. It will prompt you, IIRC, to
use urpmi.removemedia 1st.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread et
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +

 Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
  snip
 
   Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.
  
   Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
   anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
 
  /snip
 
  Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first
  thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having
  broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from
 
  Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at
  yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
  about Darwinism.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
 is that you are then his only source of assistance.

 I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
 source of aggravation.

 Lee
I alway type up an install directions;
get ice in glass, pour soda, order pizza with 2 toppings, call girlfriend and 
arrange company in 45 min, turn on computer, f1 (or del) to setup bios to 
start from cdrom first, insert cd labeled cd1-install, reboot computer to 
start with disk in drive, follow and read all instructions, consider the 
choice expert' to be the equal of 'customize' in winblows, for any questions 
e-mail; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', and you will get an opinion even quicker 
than trying to contact me. after Pizza arrives, be sure to check computer to 
insert other cds as requested.


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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:03, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 1:13 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:
 
  snip
 
   The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
   sources back again ;-)
 
  /snip
 
  Which brings up a rather naive question :
 
  Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then
  decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
  Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines
  main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our
  newbie has two sources for main.
 
  What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a
  message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical
  sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
  the blinkenlights on your modem ?
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 I don't know. Want to try it and tell us?

 At a guess I would say it would prefer the CD sources.

In 9.1 it just showed double entries (usually with different version numbers) 
in 9.2 I'm not sure. It will offer a choice when it (urpmi) stumbles on a few 
options.

On my laptop I just uncheck the CD sources when it's hooked up on a LAN with 
an internet connection while on the road (with only gsm connection) I use the 
CD's and uncheck the others.

On my desktop I've copied the CD's to HD and use those. I didn't remove the 
CD-sources, just unchecked them.


 Of course your question is actually rhetorical since the CDs and 'main' are
 not actually identical.  'Main' contains the  kernel-source package which
 is not on the CDs.  (Although it is  superceded by the one in 'updates' )

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread JoeHill
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:05:56 +0100
H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On my desktop I've copied the CD's to HD and use those. I didn't remove the 
 CD-sources, just unchecked them.

I already knew about the copying CD's to HD idea (thanks to our old friend
SK), but unchecking them in MCC, now that's a cool idea! Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-29 Thread aron
On Friday 28 November 2003 11:52 pm, et wrote:
 On Saturday 29 November 2003 02:23 am, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
 
  Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
  
   snip
  .
 
  Lee

 I alway type up an install directions;
 get ice in glass, pour soda, order pizza with 2 toppings, call girlfriend
Ok what's her # ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update/urpmi.setup?

2003-11-29 Thread Langsley T Russell
Hi again Derek.

On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 17:51, Derek Jennings wrote:
 te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
  Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update
  package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
  Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding
  sources.
 
 Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'
 
 Sorry
 derek
I installed urpmi.setup but can find no way to run it. I tried typing it
into a run field and I get the message unknown host, urpmi.setup.

I found it listed in /usr/sbin following installation so I assume it is
installed. The info on the icon there says it is a pearl program but I
can find no way of running it.
Should it have been added to my desktop or menu? 

In any event, how do I go about running urpmi.setup once it's installed?

Thanks again!

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update/urpmi.setup?

2003-11-29 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Saturday 29 November 2003 7:57 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi again Derek.

 On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 17:51, Derek Jennings wrote:
  te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
   Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
   urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
   Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through
   adding sources.
 
  Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'
 
  Sorry
  derek

 I installed urpmi.setup but can find no way to run it. I tried typing it
 into a run field and I get the message unknown host, urpmi.setup.

 I found it listed in /usr/sbin following installation so I assume it is
 installed. The info on the icon there says it is a pearl program but I
 can find no way of running it.
 Should it have been added to my desktop or menu?

 In any event, how do I go about running urpmi.setup once it's installed?

 Thanks again!

 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I thought the last time I installed this app for someone that it put an entry 
in the menu, but I may be mistaken.

In a terminal, as super user:

urpmi.setup enter

should get you started.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi.

 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the control center
 it tells me that I have at least one selected media but that they are
 all disabled. When I go to the Software Media Manager as directed to
 enable the media. They are all marked enabled. I've tried unchecking
 them one at a time then rechecking them and trying again but I still get
 the message, that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of
 reboots over a couple of days but I still get the same all
 disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my installation
 of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
 TIA

 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?

Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the instructions to 
add an 'update' media source. While you are there add  a source for 'plf' and 
'contrib' as well and you will be able to install 100's of cool extra 
applications online.

Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or else you will 
lose your CD sources.

Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into a terminal 
window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su' in a regular terminal 
window to become root.
Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click

Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update 
package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding 
sources.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
te in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click

 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the urpmi.update
 package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software manager.
 Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide you through adding
 sources.

Drat. I should have said 'urpmi.setup'

Sorry
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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:30:47 -0500
Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the control
 center it tells me that I have at least one selected media but
 that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software Media
 Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all marked
 enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then rechecking
 them and trying again but I still get the message, that they are
 all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots over a couple of
 days but I still get the same all disabledmessage.  What can I
 do to correct this and get my installation of ML-9.2 updated with
 the latest patches?? TIA 
 
 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
1. su to root
2. type urpmi.removemedia -a
3. Go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and follow simple
instructions.


hth

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
  control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
  media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
  Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
  marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
  rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
  that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
  over a couple of days but I still get the same all
  disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
  installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
  TIA
 
  LTR  }}:{(
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?
 
 Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
 instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are there
 add  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will be able
 to install 100's of cool extra applications online.
 
 Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
 else you will lose your CD sources.
 
 Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into
 a terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su'
 in a regular terminal window to become root.
 Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
 urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
 manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
 you through adding sources.
 
 HTH
 
 derek
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Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Margot
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:

Hi.

I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
over a couple of days but I still get the same all
disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
TIA
LTR  }}:{(
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?

Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are there
add  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will be able
to install 100's of cool extra applications online.
Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
else you will lose your CD sources.
Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste into
a terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window. Type 'su'
in a regular terminal window to become root.
Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
you through adding sources.
HTH

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Lee

If you have broadband, probably no advantage at all...but if you're on a 
slow dialup, and particularly if you're paying by the minute for your 
connection, it is much faster (and cheaper!) to add packages from the CD 
sources. That way, you only spend precious internet time downloading 
packages that aren't on the CDs.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:17:47 +
Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lee Wiggers wrote:
  On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:05 +
  Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 10:30 pm, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I'm running 9.2 and when I try to run the update from the
 control center it tells me that I have at least one selected
 media but that they are all disabled. When I go to the Software
 Media Manager as directed to enable the media. They are all
 marked enabled. I've tried unchecking them one at a time then
 rechecking them and trying again but I still get the message,
 that they are all disabled. I've even done a couple of reboots
 over a couple of days but I still get the same all
 disabledmessage.  What can I do to correct this and get my
 installation of ML-9.2 updated with the latest patches??
 TIA
 
 LTR  }}:{(
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Do you actually have an 'update' media defined?
 
 Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and follow the
 instructions to add an 'update' media source. While you are
 thereadd  a source for 'plf' and 'contrib' as well and you will
 be ableto install 100's of cool extra applications online.
 
 Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
 else you will lose your CD sources.
 
 Note: The web page will give you a command to copy and paste
 intoa terminal window. The window has to be a 'root' window.
 Type 'su'in a regular terminal window to become root.
 Copy/paste in Linux is mouse highlight/wheel click
 
 Note: If you do not want to use the command line install the
 urpmi.update package from your CDs using the Mandrake Software
 manager. Then run urpmi.update and a nice little GUI will guide
 you through adding sources.
 
 HTH
 
 derek
 -- 
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 http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
 
 
 
  
  Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
  
  Lee
  
 
 If you have broadband, probably no advantage at all...but if
 you're on a slow dialup, and particularly if you're paying by the
 minute for your connection, it is much faster (and cheaper!) to
 add packages from the CD sources. That way, you only spend
 precious internet time downloading packages that aren't on the
 CDs.
 
 Margot
 
 
 
Thought about it after I put my foot in, as usual.  
Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:00, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
/snip

If you've got a fast connection : none .

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 28 Nov 2003 11:00 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
SNIP
 
  Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a or
  else you will lose your CD sources.
 

 Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?

 Lee



The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD sources back 
again ;-)

In the last month we have had two posts from newbies who complained about 
losing their CD sources after executing this command.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:

snip
 The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
 sources back again ;-)
/snip

Which brings up a rather naive question :

Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then 
decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines 
main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our 
newbie has two sources for main.

What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch 
the blinkenlights on your modem ?

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:53:05 +
Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 Nov 2003 11:00 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 SNIP
  
   Note: Do *not* do what it says about  urpmi.removemedia -a
   or else you will lose your CD sources.
  
 
  Curious what the advantage of keeping the CD sources might be?
 
  Lee
 
 
 
 The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
 sources back again ;-)
 
 In the last month we have had two posts from newbies who
 complained about losing their CD sources after executing this
 command.
 
 derek
 
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 http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
 
 
 
Now I got it!

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:13:41 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:
 
 snip
  The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
  sources back again ;-)
 /snip
 
 Which brings up a rather naive question :
 
 Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then
 
 decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
 Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally
 defines main once again, this time from some mirror on the net.
 Now, our newbie has two sources for main.
 
 What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a 
 message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical 
 sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
 
 the blinkenlights on your modem ?
 
 Kaj Haulrich. 
 
 
 
Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:

snip
 Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.

 Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
 anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
/snip

Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from 
Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something about 
Darwinism.

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 1:13 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Friday 28 November 2003 23:53, Derek Jennings wrote:

 snip

  The advantage is that I do not have to explain how to put the CD
  sources back again ;-)

 /snip

 Which brings up a rather naive question :

 Let's say a newbie leaves his original CD sources as is and then
 decides to add some more, following your excellent advice, Derek.
 Then, being on the easy urpmi- site, he/she -accidentally defines
 main once again, this time from some mirror on the net. Now, our
 newbie has two sources for main.

 What happens ? - Will urpmi get confused ? - Or just spit out a
 message like : you idiot, why bother me with two identical
 sources, waisting my time ? - Do you want to shuffle CD's or watch
 the blinkenlights on your modem ?

 Kaj Haulrich.

I don't know. Want to try it and tell us?

At a guess I would say it would prefer the CD sources.

Of course your question is actually rhetorical since the CDs and 'main' are 
not actually identical.  'Main' contains the  kernel-source package which is 
not on the CDs.  (Although it is  superceded by the one in 'updates' )

derek

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Re: [newbie] Update Doesn't Update

2003-11-28 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:52:20 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 29 November 2003 00:32, Lee Wiggers wrote:
 
 snip
  Hey, I've tried every wrong way to do all this stuff.
 
  Way back in 8.2 as I recall, everything listed twice in gurpmi,
  anyway.  Just assumed I needed reinforcements maybe?
 /snip
 
 Maybe. Didn't seem to do any harm, though. After 9.0, the first 
 thing I did was to remove the CD sources what with having 
 broadband. Nevertheless, I constantly order my Powerpack CD's from
 
 Mandrake. Being no big X-mas fanatic, they come in quite handy at 
 yuletide as gifts for Microsoft-geeks. Teaches them something
 about Darwinism.
 
 Kaj Haulrich.
 
 
 
I gave a set of CD's to a friend once.  The problem, I've learned,
is that you are then his only source of assistance.

I've already been married 4 times, and prefer women as my prime
source of aggravation.

Lee

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