Re: [Newbie]XFree86 and ATI Xpert128 Video Card

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi,
I don't know what Marc will answer you (note he is an expert and I am just a newbie)
However, I'll tell you what I would do: I would get a newer version of my distro 
backup my stuff
and my settings and reinstall the whole thing. In my opinion one saves oneself a lot 
of time and
troubles that way (OK it is not the most glorious approach...)
Lionel
--- John Kissell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marc,
> 
> When you say upgrade are you just refering to XFree86. What/Where/How can I
> get a version to be compatible with my older kernel. Is this an issue? Can I
> go with the new version of XFree86? Is there instructions somewhere to remove
> the old and help with the new?
> 
> Thanks
> John Kissell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Marc Aurele La France wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, John Kissell wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running an older version of Linux Slackware Version 2.2.6 on an
> > > older Micron i686 computer. This computer has a ATI Xpert128 video card
> > > with 16MB of video RAM. This video card uses a PCI slot in the
> > > motherboard. I've been trying to configure the version of X which came
> > > with the original Slackware diskettes. This XFree86 version is 3.3.3.1.
> > > I have tried different servers and even tried to download a newer
> > > version of XFree86(4.0) but with no success. When I looked through the
> > > documentation for the driver support for the XFree86 4.0 version it had
> > > a driver for this ATI Xpert128 card but it was reported to work only
> > > with a AGP slot. Does anyone know if I can download a newer version of
> > > XFree86 (example 4.2) that will be compatible with this PCI Xpert128?
> > > Also will it be compatible with my current Linux OS kernel 2.2.6. I
> > > wanted to stay with the current OS kernel because it supports booting
> > > from a floppy drive.
> >
> > > My most recent attempt at configuring XFree86 is attached. I used a
> > > XF86_SVGA server. When I try to run it I get a lockup and a black
> > > screen.
> >
> > > If there is any help out there such as a newer version which will run
> > > with this card I will need some help on installing and configuration.
> >
> > > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> > > Thank you!
> > > John Kissell
> > > kissellj
> >
> > > PS I would really like to get X working with this card.
> >
> > Then upgrade to a newer XFree86.  When 3.3.3.1 was released, there was no
> > such thing as a Rage128.
> >
> > Marc.
> >
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Re: [Newbie]How Do I Get My KDE Back After Running The XFree86 Installation Utility?

[Lionel Lecoq]

I guess you did not backup your configurataion (.Xclients, .Xclients-default etc...)
you could try puting exec kde in .Xclients-default or creating a ~/.xinitrc with the 
same
command...)
Lionel
--- Karl Scheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I downloaded and installed XFree86 4.2.0 as per the installation
> instructions and found that my K Desktop Environment has been replaced
> with the Lesstif Window Manager (i.e. the GPL version of Motif), which I
> do not know how to use; according to one of my Linux reference books,
> Lesstif is intended for experienced programmers, not newbies.
> 
> I need KDE so that I can continue to use kppp to connect to my ISP, but
> I also need XFree86 4.2.0 so that I can perform tasks such as getting
> the TV functions of my ATI All-in-Wonder Rage Pro to work, and taking
> advantage of the 3D rendering functions of my AMD K6-2 processor.
> 
> I am currently running Red Hat 7.0.
> 
> Could somebody please help me?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Re: XFree 4.2.0, FreeBSD 4.5, Signal 11

[Lionel Lecoq]

Yes you are speaking about the frame buffer but I believe there is a difference 
between it with
linux and it with X (please someone correct me if I am wrong I never got quite clear 
on that) you
can certainly try Driver "fbdev" in your XF86Config but without garantee...
Lionel 
--- Chris Odum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Have you check whether your video card is supported in 4.x.x? It should be
> in 3.3.6 but that's
> > rather modest in comparison to 4.2..
> 
> Yes, I have looked it up already. Not only that, but it works in Slackware
> so I *know* it's possible. The way it works in Slackware is during the
> install of the OS, it asks me about a resolution for lilo.conf (?) and X
> works if I pick any resolution besides 'standard' ... I think it has
> something to do with a framebuffer server (?), but I don't know what that
> is, why it matters, and how (if) I can set it up in FreeBSD. That is what I
> am trying to find out :)
> 
> > --- Chris Odum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Installed the 'minimal' version of FreeBSD 4.5 and downloaded the X
> > > > > binaries (4.2.0) and installed them myself.
> > > >
> > > > Does that mean you did not use the Xinstall.sh script, as "strongly
> > > > recommended" by http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/Install3.html#3 ?  Why
> not?
> > > >
> > > No, I did it that way ... that's what I meant.
> > >
> > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > > > > compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
> > > > > ABI class: XFree86 Video DÐÑver, version 0.5
> > > > >   ÒÓ
> > > >
> > > > Did that garbage just happen in the mail, or was it really in your log
> > > > like that?
> > > >
> > > In the mail .. here it is again:
> > > (II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > > compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
> > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
> > > (II) s3(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is
> 0x
> > > (**) s3(0): Depth 8, (--) framebuffer bpp 8
> > > (==) s3(0): Default visual is PseudoColor
> > > (II) Loading sub module "int10"
> > > (II) LoadModule: "int10"
> > > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a
> > > (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > > compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
> > > ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
> > >
> > > Fatal server error:
> > > Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I was digging through the man pages and noticed the
> > > parameter xf86cfg -textmode, tried that, and ended up with the same
> results.
> > >
> > > > If it's any reassurance, I installed 4.2.0 on 4.5-stable a couple of
> > > > weeks ago, using Xinstall.sh, and it worked without any hitch at all.
> > > >
> > > Well that's nice, but it doesn't help me much *L*
> > >
> > > (Again, video card is an S3 Trio 64)
> > >
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Re: [Newbie]MOUSE & KEYBOARD

[Lionel Lecoq]

In case you are REALLY using 4.1.0 then you are mailing us the wrong config file. The 
one you sent
is a 3.3.6 file and is incompatible with X.4.x.x 
You should have a XF86Config-4 and that's the right one
Section pointer and section keyboard identify the file as a 3.3.6 file and explain 
your problems
** what did you do with you honest to good XF86Config-4 :^) **
I guess it will be back to running Xconfigurator...
in 4.x.x you have something like that for mouse and keyboard (please don't use dumbly 
this is just
an example)
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
#   Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
#   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Good luck
Lionel

--- Ihsan Elahi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> I have a Compaq PS/2 mouse & Focus FK 5200 standard US English keyboard. My 
> motherboard is 440 BX. I'm using x version of 4.1.0 in Red Hat Linux 7.2. 
> When i switch to GNOME or KDE, both of my keyboard & mouse hangs completely. 
> Even i can not see the NUM Lock key light. Please find attached my 
> XF86Config file. I'll appreciate if i can have any solution. Thnx & Rgds.
> Ihsan
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Re: [Newbie]S3 Savage 2000 questions

[Lionel Lecoq]

You are not giving us much info. A post of your XF86Config-4 might help. Knowing which 
card you
have also...
I can try to guess:
do you have 
Load  "dri" # Direct rendering infrastructure
in your section module

do you also have 
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

If you are using the vesa driver, it is unaccelerated...

Lionel

--- Raymond Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Folks:
> 
> I have RedHat 7.2 and have installed the RPMs for XFree86 4.2.0.  My system is based 
>on AMD
> K6/2-400 and runs reasonably well.
> I am using the savage driver and can use X11 without difficulties (now).  My 
>questions relate to
> the "acceleration" aspect of the driver.
> What does that include?  Although this is not a world class video accelerator, it is 
>ok for my
> needs.
> 
> When I try to use a program that requires acceleration, for example, a game called 
>"chromium"
> included with the RH 7.2 distribution,
> it crawls, with no evidence of 3D acceleration what-so-ever.  Granted, I could live 
>my life just
> fine without this game, I would still like to
> know what types of acceleration are supported, and/or what additional hoops I might 
>have to jump
> through to enable it.
> 
> I thank you for your time and responses in advance.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> 
> Raymond Schwartz
> 
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Re: [Newbie]S3 Savage 2000 questions

[Lionel Lecoq]

Theoretically you should get acceleration...
try 
DefaultDepth 16
in your screen section and
Depth 16
in your display subsection
I don't know whether this will help in your case, but some drivers only accelerate 16 
or 32 depth
(don't ask me why...)
Lionel
PS it is considered bad style to send html formated mail, it eats up a lot of 
bandwidth and people
with normal modems are penalised (don't be surprised if you get some more sanguine 
protests from
some other list participants, just go over your mail settings for the next post...)
Lionel
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Re: [Newbie]Regarding XF86Config-4

[Lionel Lecoq]

man startx (or man X I don't remember) state quite clearly the search sequence for a 
config file.
First comes the one specified in the command (incase one specifies one) then in the 
home directory
(RH added one there in one of its incarnations, which threw me for a loop since I was 
hacking the
one in /etc/X11...) then the one in /etc/X11 etc...
HOWEVER, I would do X -version, NOT XFree86 -version:  XFree86 being 4.0.3 You will 
always get
4.0.3 whether you are running 3.3.6 -which I suspect- or 4.0.3...
Lionel
--- Robyn Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Rename XF86Config so that it doesn't use it and then try startx again.
> 
> Robyn
> 
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:36, SHOBHIT MATHUR wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have RedHat Linux 7.1 installed on my i386-based Acer
> > machine. I installed 7.1 today and observe that
> > XFree86 -version indicates :
> >
> > XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System
> > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
> > Release Date: 16 March 2001
> > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> > reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> > Operating System: Linux 2.2.17-8smp i686 [ELF]
> > Module Loader present
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I believe that the above output should mean that the X-server
> > configuration file would be taken as /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
> > Yet, the file - /etc/X11/XF86Config is being considered for
> > configuration.
> >
> > My system is a multihead [ dual-monitor ] setup with 2 Acer
> > monitors. I had previously had a successful setup with
> > the same 2 monitors and 2 VGA cards and 7.1. But, the file
> > being considered for X configuration was XF86Config-4. This
> > time, after a fresh installation, the file being considered
> > is XF86Config.
> >
> > The 2 files XF86Config & XF86Config-4 are different because
> > the section "ServerLayout" does not exist in XF86Config. This
> > Section is very important for the layout in a multiscreen
> > setup.
> >
> > - Can someone let me know how to force the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to be
> >   used in prefernce to XF86Config
> >
> > - Your timely suggestions can help me bail out of this work-stopper..
> >   I am keen to get back my multihead configuration to continue my work.
> >
> > - Will eagerly await responses
> >
> > - Thank you very much..
> >
> > - Shobhit Mathur [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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RE: [Newbie]flashing login screen, unable to start X

[Lionel Lecoq]

I am not very knowledgeable in the Radeon area, if you are lucky someone knowing more 
may answer
you, but just in case no one does: from what I have seen on this list I got the 
impression that
you must upgrade to 4.2 to get good radeon support... Please someone correct me if I 
am wrong...
Lionel
--- "Jason J.W. Pock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there --
> 
> I can't figure out how to use a floppy drive to copy a file to another
> computer...so I'm going to just type the messages up.  If someone wants
> to help me on this one too, that'd be great. =o)
> 
> Well thanks in advance for taking a look at my problem
> 
> -Jason Pock
> 
> 
> 
> -=-=-=-=This is XF86Config-4=-=-=-=-
> 
> # XFree86 4.0 Configuration generated by Xconfigurator
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
>   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> # By default, Red Hat Linux 6.0 and later use xfs
> 
> Section "Files"
>   FontPath "unix/:7100"
> EndSection
> 
> # Module loading section
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load "dbe"  # Double-buffering
>   Load "GLcore"   # OpenGL support
>   Load "dri"  # Direct rendering infrastructure
>   Load "glx"  # OpenGL X protocol interface
>   Load "extmod"   # Misc. required extensions
>   Load "v41"  # Video4Linux
>   # Load "pex5"   # PHIGS for X 3D environment (obsolete)
>   # Load "record" # X event recorder
>   # Load "xie"# X Image Extension (obsolete)
>   # You only need the following two modules if you do not use xfs.
>   # Load "freetype"   # TrueType font handler
>   # Load "type1"  # Adobe Type 1 font handler
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "keyboard0"
>   Driver  "keyboard"
>   Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Indentifier "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
>   Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
>   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "PF775"
>   VendorName  "unknown"
>   ModelName   "unknown"
>   HorizSync 30 - 97
>   VertRefresh 50 - 180
>   Option "dpms"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "ATI Radeon (generic)
>   Driver "radeon"
>   BoardName "Unknown"
>Option "nodri"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
>   Identifier "Linux Frame Buffer"
>   Driver "fbdev"
>   BoardName "Unknown"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "ATI Radeon (generic)"
>   Monitor "PF775"
>   DefaultDepth 24
>   Subsection "Display"
>   Depth 24
>   Modes 1024x768
>   EndSubsection
> EndSection
> 
> Section "DRI"
>   Mode 0666
> EndSection
> 
> 
> -=-=-=-=This is test.log=-=-=-=-
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.1.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.1.0-3) / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
> Release Date: 2 June 2001
>   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> newer thanthe above date, look for a newer version before
> reporting problems.   (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7-0.13.1smp i686 [ELF]
> Build Host: stripples.devel.redhat.com
> 
> Module Loader present
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 15 12:38:10 2002
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured"
> (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
> (**) |   |-->Monitor "PF775"
> (**) |   |-->Device "ATI Radeon (generic)"
> (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
> (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
> (**) XKB: layout: "us"
> (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
> (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> (--) using VT number 7
> 
> Couldn't open RGB-DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module bitmap
> (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0)
> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module pcidata
> (EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0)
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Unable to load required base modules, Exiting...
> 
> When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full
> server output, not just the last messages.
> This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
> Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"^M
>  After 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.^M
> 
> 
> 
> -

Re: [Newbie]no full screen on a Winbook J1

[Lionel Lecoq]

This is not much info... your XF86Config-4 (assuming you are really running 4.0.3 
-which is what
you get with RH7.1 in adition to 3.3.6) and a log would help
what you see with 800x600 and 640x480 is the *normal* display on a lcd screen when you 
are running
at a lower resolution. I don't know your machine but assuming the screen is 1024x768 
then you have
112 pixel not addressed right and left of the 800x600 display. since 800x600 works I 
assume that
there is not that much missing to get 1024x768, I suspect you don't need chassing sync 
specs and
the like. 
First check that you are really running 4.0.3 by doing X -version (you can also chek 
the log, it's
printed on top, the log is /var/log/XFree86.0.log)
If for some strange reason you were to be running 3.3.6 then post /etc/X11/XF86Config 
otherwise
post /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Lionel
--- Michael Derksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I'll try and give as much information as I can, so if I overstate, just ignore it.
> 
> Laptop is a Winbook J1 with a 1GHz Pentium3.  Others have reported full success 
>installing X on
> this model, but I can't get a response as to the specifics.  What I've seen so far 
>is the you
> need to skip X config during install.
> 
> Symptoms:  running XFree86.config or Xconfigurator the best I can do is 800x600 in 
>16-bit color,
> but there is a black 1-inch border around the screen.  640x480 results in a bigger 
>black border.
>  1024x768 yields only a 1 inch wide area on the far right (vertical) and the rest of 
>the screen
> is black.
> 
> During setup I get a full screen.  This is for RH 7.1.  Winbook is very tight-lipped 
>about the
> refresh rates for the LCD screen and I have tried jsut about all that seem 
>reasonable.  THe
> video card is a Trident Cyberblade II and this is not listed on the XFree86 page as 
>being
> supported.  The system is rock solid, I just can't get full screen.
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> Michael Derksen
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Problem -- "X Server: None"

[Lionel Lecoq]

I am under the very strong impression that XF86_SVGA is an X 3.3.6 only server (as 
opposed to
driver)
with a Radeon I suspect also very strongly that you would do better (in short get any 
result worth
mentioning) with X 4.2
Lionel
--- "Jason J.W. Pock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there --
> 
> So I realized that when I run Xconfigurator, the program says:
> 
> PCI Entry : ATI Radeon VE
> X Server : None
> XFree4 driver : radeon
> 
> This is a problem, right?  How can I set the "X Server" to be XF86_SVGA?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -JPock
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Re: [Newbie]Problems starting "startx"

[Lionel Lecoq]

For your information: you seem to be running X 3.3.6
For any help one would need to have a few more info: XF86Config and a log
Are you sure you want to keep using 3.3.6 as opposed to a newer X (for instance 4.2) 
I don't know Debian so I might not be of much help there...
Lionel
--- "Bruce W. Bodnyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to run X on a Debian Linux box. I ran through the configuration
> and answered all the questions as best I could. I have a Matrox
> Millenium II graphics card  with 8K or display RAM and a Hitachi
> monitor.
> 
> When I attempt to run startx the following errors occur:
> 
> 
> X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA failed
> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> giving up. xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X
> server xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
> 
> Any ideas on how I go about debugging my install. When I reboot my machine,
> the xdm is running
> but my system console still is in text mode.
> 
> Thanks!
> Bruce
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Re: [Newbie]Help with multiple monitors

[Lionel Lecoq]

Your problem may be more basic than working with 2 monitors (there I cann't help)
It is quite possible that startx is attempting to run X 3.3.6 while XFree86 is 4.x.x 
(normally 4.1
with RH 7.2)
to check what is happening do X -version (NOT XFree86 -version)
or after attempting to use startx look at the log /var/log/XFree86.0.log
once you are sure of what you are running then post the config file and the log
Note I doubt 3.3.6 runs 2 monitors (I am not sure though...)
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is the config for 4.x.x in RH 7.2 (XF86Config is for 3.3.6)
Lionel

--- wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've read the postings, and am trying to set up RedHat 7.2 with 2 monitors and video 
>cards. I've
> used
> >> XFree86 -configure
> to create an XF86Config file, and have modified this.
> I can now get into X by typing XFree86 (and use both monitors), however, this is the 
>bare gui,
> and loads with _absolutely_ nothing else.
> The problem is that I cannot 
> >> startx
> to start the gui. It complains of an error in XF86Config (which can't be there, 
>since the
> command 'XFree86' works, right?
> What I'd like to know is:
> On a system where the gui is functioning properly on one of two separate displays, 
>is getting
> the second display running merely a matter of adjusting the XF86Config file?
> Thank you in advance.
> -Angus Wallace
> 


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Re: [Newbie]Peculiar Multiscreen problem.......

[Lionel Lecoq]

Not all distributions create an XF86Config-4 only some of the ones which give you both 
3.3.6 and
4.x.x
regretably I don't have any experience in multi screen and cannot help you there...
Lionel
--- SHOBHIT MATHUR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Wonder if anyone could help me solve a blocking problem
> that is not allowing me to use X.
> 
> I have successfully configured dualhead and am currently
> running "X" with dualhead support. I intended to configure
> the same on another machine and almost succeeded...Almost !
> 
> The new machine successfully generates the XF86Config file.
> Strangely, the XFree86 version is "4.1.0", but the config
> file it uses is /etc/X11/XF86Config; NOT /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.


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RE: [Newbie]Problem -- "X Server: None"

[Lionel Lecoq]

You should have stayed with RH 7.2 (I hope I don't start a flame war here ;^)
and upgraded with the RPM to X 4.2...
Anyhow just a short explaination about servers and drivers and the difference between 
X3.x.x and
X4.x.x
In X 3.x.x you had different servers for different video adapters (the were a couple 
of *standard*
ones like the XF86_SVGA)
In X 4.x.x you have only ONE server: XFree86 and different drivers for different video 
adapters.
There ias actually a RADEON one as well as a couple of others for ATI (ati, r128 
etc...)
If I were you I would install RH 7.2 (just because I am more familiar with it than 
with Debian,
not because it is better...) and specify a normal console login rather than an 
interactive one.
Theoretically, it should automatically select the radeon driver when you configure X 
and it should
configure you to run 4.1 (that's what came with it last time I installed it...)
You should then, just to check run 
X -version 
It should give you 4.1
If not then you should go to /etc/X11 rename X to X3.3.6 or whatever and create X as a 
symlink to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86
That will give you 4.1 when you do startx
Then run startx
If anything goes wrong then post both your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and your log
(/var/log/XFree86.0.log)
and a slighly more detailled description of you video adapter (model number for 
instance the
couple of letters following the numbers are also quite relevant..)
Then and only then will the people here know enough to help you...
Lionel 
 
--- "Jason J.W. Pock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I want to do is use Linux.  Why must it be so difficult?  I've tried
> installing it from Red Hat 7.1 and 7.2 cd's.  I've tried installing it
> from Debian cd's.  NO LUCK!  And it's always this XFree86 stuff.  I just
> can't figure it out.  AAAHHH!  Does anyone else feel
> this way?
> 
> -Jason
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Jason J.W. Pock
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Newbie]Problem -- "X Server: None"
> 
> Hmmm...well don't I need to have a server?  Surely "none" won't work,
> right?  Is there a way I can manually set one up?
> 
> -Jason
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of Lionel Lecoq
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Newbie]Problem -- "X Server: None"
> 
> I am under the very strong impression that XF86_SVGA is an X 3.3.6 only
> server (as opposed to
> driver)
> with a Radeon I suspect also very strongly that you would do better (in
> short get any result worth
> mentioning) with X 4.2
> Lionel
> --- "Jason J.W. Pock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there --
> > 
> > So I realized that when I run Xconfigurator, the program says:
> > 
> > PCI Entry : ATI Radeon VE
> > X Server : None
> > XFree4 driver : radeon
> > 
> > This is a problem, right?  How can I set the "X Server" to be
> XF86_SVGA?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -JPock
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Re: [Newbie]Problem with Ati Mach64 and LCD unspecified monitor

[Lionel Lecoq]

An *horrible* suggestion...
usually RH 7.x installs both 4.x.x and 3.3.6
In case it did for you have you tried using 3.3.6?
two possibilities:
1. for config I believe you can use a parameter (-prefer3 or something like that try 
man your
config prog)
2. backup your /etc/X11/X by renaming it X4 for instance and recreate X as a symlink 
to an
*appropriate* 3.3.6 server (at worse the *universal* XF86_SVGA (it should also be in
/usr/X11R6/bin at worst use locate...) then /etc/X11/XF86Config will be the file to 
hack

An interesting place to look would also be http://www.linux-laptop.net/
good luck
Lionel  
--- Guillaume Proux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Living in Japan, I have received a quite old PC to install Linux on and
> although the installation went flawlessly even in graphical mode with a
> RedHat 7.2 JP, I did not manage to get a graphical mode running after
> install.
> 
> The PC is a Hitachi Flora Model PCT-310T16E.
> The monitor is INTEGRATED into the PC and I used read-edid but
> cannot get any information about the monitor this way although
> i found out in the log left by the X server that it finds a native lcd
> panel.
> 
> The symptoms:
> - did not manage to get ANY mode but 24bit running and even 24bit has
> trouble
> - the 8 and 16 bit mode fail miserably and all I have on screen are
> repeated band of pixels that more or less reproduce the first 200 columns
> for 8 bits and 400 colums for 16 bits
> - A picture taken with a digital camera show what happens even in 24 bits:
> the picture although stable vertically smears horizontally. You can look
> at the screenshot: http://www.acesoliton.com/~gproux/flora_monitor.jpg
> 
> attached are my XF86Config-4 and info.log=log of the X server stdout&
> stderr
> 
> I will appreciate any help from experts all around the world?
> Any Japanese hacker as well to help me learn japanese and hacking?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Guillaume
> > 
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.1.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.1.0-3) / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
> Release Date: 2 June 2001
>   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
>   newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
>   reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.7-0.13.1smp i686 [ELF] 
> Build Host: stripples.devel.redhat.com
>  
> Module Loader present
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Mar 19 09:14:36 2002
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured"
> (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
> (**) |   |-->Monitor "CustomConfiguration"
> (**) |   |-->Device "ATI Mach64"
> (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
> (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
> (**) XKB: model: "jp106"
> (**) XKB: layout: "jp"
> (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
> (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> (--) using VT number 7
> 
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
> (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
> (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0
> (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> (--) PCI:*(0:5:0) ATI Mach64 LG rev 128, Mem @ 0x0800/24, 0x0730/12, I/O @ 
>0x7400/8,
> BIOS @ 0x0732/17
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
> (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
> (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
> (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
> (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
> (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
> (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux/v4l_drv.o
> (II) Module v4l: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.0.1
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
> (I

Re: [Newbie]Problem with Ati Mach64 and LCD unspecified monitor

[Lionel Lecoq]

Sorry but RH 7.x and I believe a couple of other distributions install both 3.3.6 and 
4.x.x They
set the one or the other active depending on whether the video adapter is  accelerated 
or not in
4.x.x
I agree with you that this confuses many people as you can see in this list with them 
mentioning
XF86_SVGA and X 4.x in the same sentence. 
However, it does allow one to fine tune on older equipment (in my case, for instance, 
I kept 3.3.6
on an old laptop because the card was not accelerated in 4.1, I can tell you that with 
kde it made
a lot of difference in the response time... In my newer desktop I do run 4.1, having 
the same
distro on both does simplify matters)
Lionel

--- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:51:44 -0800 (PST)
> Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > An *horrible* suggestion...
> > usually RH 7.x installs both 4.x.x and 3.3.6
> 
> Yow!  It's no wonder that so many people are so hopelessly confused,
> e.g., Mr. Jason J.W. Pock.  I could imagine offering a choice, but
> installing both!  Furrfu!
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Re: [Newbie]Problem -- "X Server: None"

[Lionel Lecoq]

Ted,
You are expecting a lot from a newbie...
this is why in another post I advised to just reinstall the distro cleanly and start 
from there.
Unless the man has a radeon or one of those just released video adapters he can live 
quite well
with what comes with the distro. After a few months of getting comfortable with his new
environment he can always decide to upgrade and do it understanding what he is doing 
Not everybody has your experience ;^)
Actually (no flame war intended :-) I don't believe switching to freeBSD or from RH to 
any other 
 linux distro will help much. There is a learning curve involved and the more 
reasonable among us
post their config and log and don't moan ;~} 
cheers
Lionel
 
--- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:35:31 -0500
> "Jason J.W. Pock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > All I want to do is use Linux.
> 
> Umm, that invites two questions:  a) Why?  and b) What sort of work do
> you want to use it for?
> 
> >  Why must it be so difficult?
> 
> Difficult compared to what?
> 
> >  I've
> > tried installing it from Red Hat 7.1 and 7.2 cd's.  I've tried
> > installing it from Debian cd's.  NO LUCK!  And it's always this
> > XFree86 stuff.  I just can't figure it out.  AAAHHH! 
> > Does anyone else feel this way?
> 
> I don't, but I have very limited experience with Linux, I admit.  I've
> been using FreeBSD since Feb 1995.  I spent several hours with pencil,
> paper, and pocket calculator working on my XFree86 configuration that
> first time, but nevertheless the net result was *so much better* than
> any of the various general-purpose computer systems that I had dealt
> with in the previous 30 years that FreeBSD has been my strong preference
> ever since.
> 
> These days, with PCI/AGP and I2C/DDC/EDID equipment that identifies
> itself, XFree86 4.2.0 virtually installs itself.
> 
> Sorry if this seems a bit of a rant, but I'm responding to a bit of a
> rant.
> 
> What I would suggest is that you remove all traces of previous
> installations of XFree86 and start over with 4.2.0.  "sudo rm -rf
> /usr/X11R6" and "sudo find /etc -name "X*" -delete" should do it.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]A working XF86Config-4 for Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro requested

[Lionel Lecoq]

Because of your default depth setting, you tell it to use 16 and it does...
Lionel
--- Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone out there have a Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro card working
> satisfactorily with XFree86 4.x?  Would they care to share their
> XF86Config-4 file with me?
> 
> Thanx!
> 
> I've searched www.google.com, and groups.google.com without being able
> to find such a file.  Most matches are for XFree86 3.x, and arent't
> relevant.
> 
> I have a file that sort of work, but I had to turn off acceleration to
> avoid some annoying "noise" problems in web browser document windows.
> 
> I'm also unsure of my settings in the "Screen" section.  The settings
> below are the ones I ended up with that let me use a 1280x1024
> desktop.  Trying to put this in the "Display" subsection with Depth
> 24, gave me a flickering desktop.
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   DefaultDepth 16
> 
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 4
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 8
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 15
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 16
>   Modes   "1280x1024"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 24
>   Modes   "1024x768"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> What I don't understand is why the above settings makes XFree86 pick
> 1280x1024 on startup?  Does it always pick the highest resolution?
> 
> 
> - Steinar
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]X questions

[Lionel Lecoq]

Ted,
It may be a difference between RH and freeBSD
but in my environment(i.e. RH 7.2) it is /etc/X11/x which should be a symlink to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86
Cheers
Lionel
 
--- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:35:27 -0600
> Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 1).  Although all of the XFree86 packages indicate 4.1.0-xx, the SVGA
> > package and compat modules still reads 3.3.6:
> 
> You must be one of the "lucky" ones for whom RedHat has installed both
> 3.3.6 and 4.1.0.  See (very) recent discussion on this list.  Probably
> best to just ignore it, just make sure that in /usr/X11R6/bin, X is a
> symbolic link to XFree86, not to XF86_SVGA.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]X questions

[Lionel Lecoq]

Have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/
Lionel
--- Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I tried Google.  One could spend a career wading through all of the fluff...
> 
> I have three issues that I would guess can be answered pretty quickly here.
> 
> First some background.  I have a Toshiba Satellite 1805-S273 laptop.  
> Installed on this laptop is Redhat Linux 7.2 with XFree86 4.1.0.
> 
> 1).  Although all of the XFree86 packages indicate 4.1.0-xx, the SVGA package 
> and compat modules still reads 3.3.6:
> [root@rks0 rks0]# rpm -qa | grep XFree86
> XFree86-ISO8859-15-75dpi-fonts-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-xdm-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-devel-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-libs-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-xfs-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-ISO8859-15-100dpi-fonts-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-tools-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-SVGA-3.3.6-42
> XFree86-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-twm-4.1.0-3
> XFree86-compat-modules-3.3.6-42
> 
> Is this an oversight or are those packages purposely backlevelled?  Is there 
> an update?  Does it make any sense to bring those packages up to the same 
> level as the others?
> 
> 2). This laptop has a 'eraserhead' mouse, much like the IBM Thinkpad.  I have 
> a couple of very annoying problems with it.  The first is during scrolling 
> around in a document, it seems that the mouse pointer gets 'wound up' and 
> unwinds by moving by itself on the screen.  It does not take long to 
> eventually stop (typically less than 10 seconds), but is interesting to 
> watch.  The other mouse problem is more severe and also seems to be related 
> to scrolling.  The point on the screen that the mouse registers a click seems 
> to jump to the left by about 30 to 50 pixels.  I have to move the pointer to 
> the right of an object to click on it, by maybe a half an inch.  When this 
> happens I usually need to reboot to get the mouse back.
> 
> 3). The last item is related to an external monitor.  If I switch to an 
> external monitor (with Fn-F5), nothing happens under Linux.  I've read a 
> number of Google accounts where this works on a number of other laptops.  I 
> have a Windows partition on this laptop as well and it works fine there, so I 
> know the port works.  How do I get this to work with Linux.
> 
> Any insight on these items would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Re: Problem with Ati Mach64 and LCD unspecified monitor

[Lionel Lecoq]

Have a look at http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status6.html#6
this is the status of the support for ati for 4.1 and 3.3.6
basically your card should be supported by both version (OK there are these ominous 
two letters
after the mach64...)
Theoretically the ati driver should solve your problem in 4.x and (unknown to me) 
there seem to be
a way to use an ati driver for XF86_SVGA. Anyhow, the XF86_SVGA IS accelerated, 
possibly you have
to specify it in the config file...
Alzeimer strikes again and I cannot remember whether you posted both your XF86Config 
resp.
XF86Config-4 and a log (/var/log/XFree86.0.log would do)
Lionel


--- Guillaume Proux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >usually RH 7.x installs both 4.x.x and 3.3.6
> 
> It did not in my case but a jab at "rpm -ivh" did the work...
> 
> >In case it did for you have you tried using 3.3.6?
> 
> Yes, now i have tried both XF86_Mach64 and XF86_SVGA and I am proud to announce
> that after much fiddling I got nothing but garbage on the screen with the 
>accelerated X server
> (even 3.3.6) but got a perfect picture in XF86_SVGA (with the correct modeline).
> 
> Problem, it is clearly slower than under Win98 So i would be delighted to have 
>access
> to a Mach64 accelerated server...
> 
> What is going wrong with my machine?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Guillaume
> 
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Re: [Newbie]no full screen on a Winbook J1

[Lionel Lecoq]

I had a look at http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status33.html#33 (list of trident cards 
supported)
and did not see a cyberblade II however there is a cyberblade i1 could one of the I be 
a 1 (one)?

A log would help finding out what X recognises.
 For instance it may help to specify the video RAM
available specially because I had a look at the specs of your machine and noticed it 
uses some of
the main memory as a buffer, this may keep the config program from finding out what is
available...

Another possibility (I like it less): there seem to be a download on the trident site 
(seems to be
a 3.3.6 server...) look at http://www.tridentmicro.com  then select Drivers then 
download then
blade3d 
as one says in these case without any warantee...
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Re: [Newbie]no full screen on a Winbook J1

[Lionel Lecoq]

follow alan advice he is an expert in the matter...
Lionel

 
--- Michael Derksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  When I select "Unlisted card" while running Xconfigurator, I get an option for 
>XF86_SVGA.  When
> I select it I get the followion error.
> "server doesn't exist, can't continue.  tried to use ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA"
> Might I actually be a step closer?
> Cheers,
> Michael
>   Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had a look at
> http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status33.html#33 (list of trident cards supported)
> and did not see a cyberblade II however there is a cyberblade i1 could one of the I 
>be a 1
> (one)?
> 
> A log would help finding out what X recognises.
> For instance it may help to specify the video RAM
> available specially because I had a look at the specs of your machine and noticed it 
>uses some
> of
> the main memory as a buffer, this may keep the config program from finding out what 
>is
> available...
> 
> Another possibility (I like it less): there seem to be a download on the trident 
>site (seems to
> be
> a 3.3.6 server...) look at http://www.tridentmicro.com then select Drivers then 
>download then
> blade3d 
> as one says in these case without any warantee...
> Lionel
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Default Video Mode

[Lionel Lecoq]

I personally have only one resolution in my modes line, that way I am not bothered by 
these
problems. However, if you want to keep them all then the first one should be the 
default, change
the order accordingly and it should do.
By the way, why do I have only one? Because, at least on my mobo, X selects the 
largest resolution
as the virtual resolution and with any other resolution I must pan to get to the part 
of the
window which are not showing on the display...
Lionel
 
--- "Bodnyk, Bruce W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed XFree86 on my machine at home. When I power the machine
> on the login screen in "zoomed" up and I have to press the Cntrl-Alt-+
> sequence to cycxle through the various video modes until I get the one that
> works. What do I have to do to preset the video mode that I want?
> 
> Thanks
> Bruce
> 
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> Staff Engineer, CAE Development
> FCI Electronics
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Re: [Newbie]Real newbie.. How to configure X server.

[Lionel Lecoq]

try X -configure
without garantee (I don't know cygwin, but X should be a symlink to XFree86)
Lionel
---  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed cygwin and XFree86 binary for cygwin.
> And in step for configuring.. Document says there are three way to
> configure. xf86config,
> xf86cfg, XFree86 -configure.
> But I can find none of three commands.
> Then I looked into /usr/X11R6/bin directory and found X, XWin.exe
> Running X, XWin.exe displays just blank background window in full screen.
> I think X server works anyway. but how to configure and how to make some
> small window like
> xterm..etc..?
> Please answer.
> Your reply for a while can help me much.
> Thanks.
> 
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RE: [Newbie]How to configure X on OpenBSD 2.9 Help!

[Lionel Lecoq]

--- "Thomas P. Colson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tried "xf86config" , "xf86cfg -textmode" , "XF86Setup" , "xf86cfg". Tried LITERALLY 
>every
> combination of every setting. Tried with a Matrox G100 VId Card, and a STB card. 
>Still, always
> get the same error. 
> 
> Space Shuttle didn't come with man pages, just a bunch of engineers who don't 
>communicate simple
> ideas very well. That why NASA=Not A Safe Aircraft. 
> 
> Tom Colson
> Minister Of Information
> (919) 788-1366
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Spradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Newbie]How to configure @#*!(@)()@*#&$*& X on OpenBSD 2.9
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:56:56 -0500
> "Thomas P. Colson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > No matter what damn combination of cards, monitors, rates,
> > frequencies, kicking the *&@*&)(^%# computer, I can't get X to start.
> > This is the version that comes on the BSD CD. Using A STB video card
> > on one machine, Matrox G100 on another. Same error. When typing
> > "STARTX", I get either "no screens found" Or "No mode". Why does xf86
> > have to be so %^@^&&(**(_ crpytographic to confgure? Rewiring the
> > Space Shuttle is easier than this.
> 
> startx, lower case.  Also, in /usr/X11R6, X should be a symlink to the
> correct server.  You didn't say anything about your XF86Config file, or
> using any of the interactive configuration tools.  Did you rewire the
> Space Shuttle without reading the man pages?
> 
> Also, a squirrell seems to have been chewing on your phone line just as
> your message was transmitted, there's some line noise in it.  ;-)
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Tom Colson
> > Minister Of Information
> > (919) 788-1366
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: [Newbie]How to configure X on OpenBSD 2.9 Help!

[Lionel Lecoq]

Sorry about the empty answer, it's late and my fingers don't obey that well...
Please instead of panicking post your XF86Config (in linux one finds it in /etc/X11 
possibly not
in OpenBSD in that case I would look first in the home directory then in /usr/X11R6) 
and your log
(usually /var/log/XFree86.0.log)
also do an 
X -version
just to be sure of what you are running.
I am not very knowledgeable with OpenBSD and don't know whether it creates a few 
XF86Config like
some other distro...
You have a readme for OpenBSD on the www.XFree86.org page (select the docs and follow 
links)
If you want to regenerate your XF86Config, they advise xf86cfg but since you have 
problems 
you could also try X -configure
personnaly I would try to hack the file myself, it is not that difficult. Main issue: 
if you have
more than one such file be sure you are hacking the one X uses (it should be 
identified in the
log)
Lionel 

--- "Thomas P. Colson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tried "xf86config" , "xf86cfg -textmode" , "XF86Setup" , "xf86cfg". Tried LITERALLY 
>every
> combination of every setting. Tried with a Matrox G100 VId Card, and a STB card. 
>Still, always
> get the same error. 
> 
> Space Shuttle didn't come with man pages, just a bunch of engineers who don't 
>communicate simple
> ideas very well. That why NASA=Not A Safe Aircraft. 
> 
> Tom Colson
> Minister Of Information
> (919) 788-1366
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Spradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Newbie]How to configure @#*!(@)()@*#&$*& X on OpenBSD 2.9
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:56:56 -0500
> "Thomas P. Colson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > No matter what damn combination of cards, monitors, rates,
> > frequencies, kicking the *&@*&)(^%# computer, I can't get X to start.
> > This is the version that comes on the BSD CD. Using A STB video card
> > on one machine, Matrox G100 on another. Same error. When typing
> > "STARTX", I get either "no screens found" Or "No mode". Why does xf86
> > have to be so %^@^&&(**(_ crpytographic to confgure? Rewiring the
> > Space Shuttle is easier than this.
> 
> startx, lower case.  Also, in /usr/X11R6, X should be a symlink to the
> correct server.  You didn't say anything about your XF86Config file, or
> using any of the interactive configuration tools.  Did you rewire the
> Space Shuttle without reading the man pages?
> 
> Also, a squirrell seems to have been chewing on your phone line just as
> your message was transmitted, there's some line noise in it.  ;-)
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Tom Colson
> > Minister Of Information
> > (919) 788-1366
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> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Problems with SiS 620

[Lionel Lecoq]

Difficult to help without seeing your XF86Config resp XF86Config-4 file
The log complains about the lack of a display subsection with depth 16 in your screen 
section
I would be surprised if you did not have one. However, check whether you have a 
default depth of
16 and no display subsection with a depth of 16. If this is the case just add one 
(copy another
and change the depth...)
Lionel

--- Borg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I´m having problems with my video card (a SiS 620 integrated to the
> motherboard), I can´t start the x-server since a "no screens found" error
> appears (for more details I´m sending with this mail the log file). I´ve
> tried several configurations on the xf86config but couldn´t make any work.
> Background information:
> Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 3
> Linux distribution: Mandrake 8.2
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> Diego
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=XFree86.0.log



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Re: [Newbie]FBDev driver for X Windows

[Lionel Lecoq]

You should post your full XF86Confid-4 file
LIonel
--- Yong Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I install the Rehat 7.2 on my Gateway Laptop.
> The X system doesn't work. 
> The Graphic card is
> S3 Viedo Chip :Twister(380/387)
> Display Memory size:8M 7104@0x9000
> 
> The S3 Xserver doesn't support this chip. I would like to use the FBDev to drive the 
>graphich
> car. 
> In XF86Config
> I change the section of display as the following
> ###
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier"Generic Monitor"
> :::
> ModLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024
>600 601 603 625
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Unprobed Monitor"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> ModeName"Unknown"
> :::
> EndSection
> 
> #Graphics Device Section
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Generic VGA Card"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> BoardName  "Unknown"
> Chipset"generic"
> EndSection
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "VGA VESA Frambuffer"
> EndSection
> # Screen Section
> #The kernel frame buffer Server
> Section "Screen"
> Drive"fbdev"
> Device"Generic VGA Card"
> Monitor "Unprobed Monitor"
> Subsection"Display" 
> Depth 16
> Modes"default"
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
> #The 16-color VGA server
> Section "Screen"
> ::
> EndSection
> #The Mono Server
> Section "Screen"
> Driver "vga2"
> Device "Generic VGA Card"
> Monitor"Unprobed Monitor"
> Subsection"Display"
> Modes"640x480""800x600"
> ViewPort 0 0
> EndSubsection
> End Section
> ###3
> 
> 
> The X system cannot be initialized. There display
> S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors
> You must provide a "screen" section in XF86Config for at least one of the following 
>graphic
> drivers: accel 
> Fatal Server error
> No configured graphics devices.
> 
> What should I do? I know that the S3 server doen't work. I only want to use theFBDev 
>driver. How
> to configure the XF86Config or other document to enable the frame buffer driver?
> 


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Re: [Newbie]FBDev driver for X Windows

[Lionel Lecoq]

You should post your full XF86Confid-4 file
LIonel
--- Yong Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I install the Rehat 7.2 on my Gateway Laptop.
> The X system doesn't work. 
> The Graphic card is
> S3 Viedo Chip :Twister(380/387)
> Display Memory size:8M 7104@0x9000
> 
> The S3 Xserver doesn't support this chip. I would like to use the FBDev to drive the 
>graphich
> car. 
> In XF86Config
> I change the section of display as the following
> ###
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier"Generic Monitor"
> :::
> ModLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024
>600 601 603 625
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Unprobed Monitor"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> ModeName"Unknown"
> :::
> EndSection
> 
> #Graphics Device Section
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Generic VGA Card"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> BoardName  "Unknown"
> Chipset"generic"
> EndSection
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "VGA VESA Frambuffer"
> EndSection
> # Screen Section
> #The kernel frame buffer Server
> Section "Screen"
> Drive"fbdev"
> Device"Generic VGA Card"
> Monitor "Unprobed Monitor"
> Subsection"Display" 
> Depth 16
> Modes"default"
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
> #The 16-color VGA server
> Section "Screen"
> ::
> EndSection
> #The Mono Server
> Section "Screen"
> Driver "vga2"
> Device "Generic VGA Card"
> Monitor"Unprobed Monitor"
> Subsection"Display"
> Modes"640x480""800x600"
> ViewPort 0 0
> EndSubsection
> End Section
> ###3
> 
> 
> The X system cannot be initialized. There display
> S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors
> You must provide a "screen" section in XF86Config for at least one of the following 
>graphic
> drivers: accel 
> Fatal Server error
> No configured graphics devices.
> 
> What should I do? I know that the S3 server doen't work. I only want to use theFBDev 
>driver. How
> to configure the XF86Config or other document to enable the frame buffer driver?
> 


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Re: [Newbie]ATI Radeon QY startx problem on RedHat 7.1

[Lionel Lecoq]

I believe you may need X 4.2 with a Radeon...
Lionel
--- Jerome Dorsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a computer with ATI Radeon QY display card and I have installed
> RedHat 7.1 on it. Everything goes
> fine as long it comes time to write startx.  The error I receive in my
> XFree86.log file is below.  It seems that this video card compatable and
> their are no known drivers ( I have not found any) to fix my problem.
> What can I do to avoid the following error?
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Re: [Newbie]!! WILL $PayPal$ FOR XF 4.2.0 HELP !!

[Lionel Lecoq]

Keep your cash for better things and remember it's all about learning how things 
work...
now the way you present things makes it rather difficult to help you:
1. XFree86 -configure does generate XF86Config.new and puts it someplace where it 
won't wipe out
anything... 
It is to you to rename the file to XF86Config resp. XF86Config-4 and move it where it 
belongs
(usually /etc/X11/...) unhappily these things depend on your distribution, and not 
knowng which
one you are using keeps one from being more detailled
2. try to run startx just with your current config, this will give you a log in
/var/log/XFree86.0.log.
This log will tell you which XF86Config[-4] X is using
3. post the XF86Config[-4], your log, the name of the distribution you are using

As an extra comment, I don't like your XF86Config.new file: too many things are 
missing there. Not
knowing whether you moved it so that X uses it I feel any more detailled comments are
unnecessary...
Lionel
--- Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> {To whomever helps me first/best, I decree "name your PayPal $$FEE$$ !!"}
> 
> 
> I've attached two files, one is relevant dmesg output (sorted in order of
> video then keyboard then mouse stuff) and the other is the default output
> file "XF86Config.new" which was created by the "XFree86 -configure" command.
> 
> All I wish for are these three (3) things, from least to highest priority:
> 
> (1) Is it possible to use SVGA (blanktime, screen_saver.ko modules) in
> syscons/console?
> 
> (2) What changes must I make to the default XF86Config.new file to use
> atkbd and /dev/sysmouse (ums0) instead of "keyboard" and "/dev/mouse?"
> 
> (3) What lines must be *added* to the default XF86Config.new file to use a
> DefaultDepth of 16 (or 24) and a DefaultResolution of 800x600, so that
> XFree86 will work with my ATI All-in-Wonder 128 16mb AGP video card and
> Dell M781p monitor (supposed ranges are hscan 30-85kHz, vscan 50-160kHz,
> and optimal preset is apparently "1024x768 @ 85Hz")??
> 
> I really require X.  I am exasperated.  Someone.  Please-- Help me and
> take my $loot$ ??
> 
> --
> Peter Leftwich
> President & Founder
> Video2Video Services
> Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA
> +1-413-403-9555
> > agp0:  mem 0xe7005000-0xe7005fff,0xd800-0xdfff 
>at device
0.0
> on pci0
> pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
> pci1:  on pcib1
> pci1:  at 5.0 irq 10
> vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
> sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> 
> atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> 
> ohci0:  mem 0xe7007000-0xe7007fff irq 5 at device 7.4 on pci0
> usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
> usb0:  on ohci0
> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
> ugen0: Canon CanoScan, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2
> ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/9.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1
> ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
> > Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
>   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
>   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load  "extmod"
>   Load  "glx"
>   Load  "dri"
>   Load  "dbe"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "xtrap"
>   Load  "speedo"
>   Load  "type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>   Driver  "keyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   #DisplaySize  300   230 # mm
>   Identifier   "Monitor0"
>   VendorName   "DEL"
>   ModelName"DELL  M781p"
>   Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "NoAccel" # []
> #Option "SWcursor"# []
> #Option "Dac6Bit" # []
> #Option "Dac8Bit" # []
> #Option "ForcePCIMode"# []
> #Option "CCEPIOMode"  # []
> #Option "CCENoSecurity"   # []
> #Option "CCEusecTimeout

Re: [Newbie]XF86 4.2.0 /etc/ttys ?

[Lionel Lecoq]

Can't help you with your etc/ttys
As far as Ctrl-Alt-F# this is the way to switch between consoles when you are in X:
if you are alone in X (i.e. only one tty console and one X open then Ctrl-Alt-F1 will 
bring you
back to the standard tty console and from there Ctrl-Alt-F7 back to your X console.
If you have more consoles open (two logins and two X) then Ctrl-Alt-F2 gets you to the 
second tty
console and Ctrl-Alt-F8 to the second X console...

just an aside if X is not running then you switch between consoles with Alt-F#
As far as the wrapper is concerned, it is a security feature so that you don't need to 
be SU in
order to start an X session. If you are alone on your machine you may want to ignore 
it (at your
own risk) some distributions don't use it, some others do...

Lionel
--- Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, my XFree86 4.2.0 woes revisited... Can a couple of you post sample
> lines from your /etc/ttys files that show either the "off" console method
> or the "xdm -session -nodaemon etc" method please?
> 
> My /etc/ttys file currently has some commented-out seemingly junk lines:
> #ttyv7  "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon -error /usr/X11R6/xdm_errors.log" xterm on 
>secure
> #ttyv8  "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -error /usr/X11R6/xdm_errors.log -session startkde" 
>xterm   off
> secure
> 
> And what's all this I hear about CTRL-Alt-F# to change from console to X?
> 
> And what's this I hear about using wrapper if you are non-root?  Once
> the startx script or the XFree86 binary is run from the command line, is
> the user taken automatically into a GUI environment, or must the user then
> *change* to the virtual console/screen on which the X-server is running?
> 
> Thanks bignessly,
> 
> --
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Re: [Newbie]Problems getting X running: 'fixed' font error

[Lionel Lecoq]

Just in case you specified the fonts in your file section (it should not be necessary 
there are
decent defaults) you SHOULD have a fixed font as the first one in the list (misc would 
do)
Lionel
--- Curry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   I know this might be a dead horse by now, but I've struggled with
> this for a while:
> 
>   I'm (trying to) run XFree86 4.2.0 on a FreeBSD 4.5 box with an
> Intel chip. The error I get when I run X (via X, XFree86, or startx) is:
> 
>   Fatal server errror:
>   could not open default font 'fixed'
> 
>   This is the ONLY error that I receive. (Before it is the config
> file name and after it is just the bug report message.) I've tried many
> different solutions, such as ones suggesting that I run mkfontdir on each
> font directory. (The fonts.dir files were there, and reasonable, already
> anyway.) I've tried removing fonts.alias files as one recommendation said.
> 
>   I've also recompiled X overnight a couple of times, and it
> compiles and installs perfectly, fonts and all. I've also run 'XFree86
> -configure' and 'XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new', with both of those
> behaving well. I've also run xf86config and it seemed to work well. I know
> my hardware specs, so I doubt it is a problem with not specifying a device
> or hardware option properly.
> 
>   Let me know what might be the problem (i.e. whatever is left that
> I have not tried).
> 
> Curry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]a problem with a S3 video card

[Lionel Lecoq]

One would need to know which card you have and you should post both your 
XF86Config[-4] and log
(/var/log/XFree86.0.log would do...)
You can check yourself whether your card is supported by going to www.xfree86.org, 
selecting
Support, Documentation and Resources 
Then
XFree86-4.2.0 Current Release documentation 
Then
Driver Status for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0
and finally 
28. S3  

Lionel
--- Benjamin GOURLAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello all,
> 
> I've got a computer with a video card based on a S3 chip "86C385". 
> 
> This video card works with Windows NT4 so i need to install Linux Mandrake 8.2... I 
>install it
> without any problem for choose my option and install all the packages but when i try 
>to install
> the video for Xfree 4... I begin to have problems : my cursor have a big shadow and 
>my display
> was not clean...
> 
> I try to find a solution on Google without any result who help me 
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Bye
> 
> Benjamin GOURLAT from FRANCE :)
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Re: [Newbie]S3triov2/Dx or Gx wich device should I select ?

[Lionel Lecoq]

Your driver should be "s3" and not "s3virge"
Lionel
--- Ringo Harmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I use X free 4.2.0 currently with an fb device, but I'd like to let it 
> work without... 
> 
> **Here is a snippet from 'cat /proc/pci'
> 
> Bus  0, device  15, function  0:
>VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio 64V2/DX or /GX (rev 22).
>  IRQ 11.
>  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x4000 [0x43ff]
> 
> **If I try to startup X it says :
> 
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
> (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> 
> **Here is my Device selection from XF86Config
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "ShadowFB"  # []
> Identifier  "Card0"
> Driver  "s3virge"
> BusID   "PCI:0:15:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Could anybody pse help me out ? I am just a newbie at this pse.
> 
> Thanx in advance
> 
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Re: [Newbie]X display misconfiguration

[Lionel Lecoq]

Or just hack your XF86Config[-4] file and remove the corresponding line
Lionel
--- Hubert Yoshizaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To Unix_newbie
> When configuring the X, I remember a question asking whether to use virtual
> screens or not.
> You probably answered yes in which case I believe it would used virtual
> screens.
> Try configuring again and answer no to that question next time.
> hope that helps.
> H
> 
>  James Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > --- Unix Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hello!
> > > 
> > >   I am using a SiS 620 chip set on my FreeBSD
> > > 4.5 box. After trying
> > > to configure X I was able to get it started and get
> > > gnome and sawfish
> > > running on it nicely. However, when it starts up, I
> > > only get a section
> > > of the screen showing as if I am in a big window. I
> > > have to use the
> > > mouse to scroll around.
> > > 
> > >Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Comments,
> > > docs, or URLs, I'd love
> > > any help!
> > 
> > Offhand, it looks like what is going on is that
> > XFree86's own virtual screen (as opposed to any window
> > manager's virtual screen/desktop) is being used. You
> > get this if you set your preferred screen resolution
> > beyond what XFree thinks your monitor can handle.
> > Could be a monitor misconfiguration, or you could have
> > overestimated what resolution your monitor can handle.
> > 
> > 
> > =
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Re: (Update) [Newbie]Wacom driver breaks virtual console switching & exits from X?

[Lionel Lecoq]

I assume you know that if you have one X running you have to use startx -- :# (# is 1 
to 5 I
believe) in order to start a second X session...
Lionel 
--- James Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- James Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > when XFree86 (ver. 4.1.0) is set up to
> > use
> > the Wacom Intuos, switching to a virtual console and
> > back to X causes X to appear frozen, sometimes with
> > a
> > band of colorful garbage at the top of the screen.
> > From what I can tell, everything still works, but
> > the
> > graphics on the screen are frozen and I have to type
> > things blindly.
> 
> From what I can tell, switching virtual consoles kills
> X. I did the following:
> 
> 1) Started X by typing startx > error.log 2>&1
> 2) Switched to a virtual console
> 3) Switched back to the console (screen?) on which X
> was displayed (Console 7 in Red Hat)
> 4) Switched to the console from which I started X
> 5) Typed "startx"
> 
> One of the last lines in error.log is
> 
> xinit:  connection to X server lost.
> 
> X must have crashed when I switched consoles (and
> probably failed to cleanly switch the console back to
> text mode). 
> 
> Maybe I can attach gdb to X or something?
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Re: a problem with a S3 video card

[Lionel Lecoq]

That's what he was telling you: XF86_xxx are 3.3.6 servers

Lionel

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ..And isn't there also an XF86_S3V server, for Virge cards?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4/6/2002 1:06:45 PM, Richard Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> >Would this by any chance be a Compaq Deskpro 4000?  Your problem 
> seems
> >similar to one that I had with that machine and its OEM version of the
> >S3 Virge GX card which, as I recall, used the same chip.
> >
> >The solution:  use XFree86 version 3.3.6 rather than 4.x.x.  Here is
> >what worked for my installation of Redhat 7.2. (Posted Previously)
> >
>

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Re: Rép. : [Newbie]Re: a problem with a S3 video card

[Lionel Lecoq]

You do realise that:
you are specifying display modes in your screen display subsection which don't fit 
with those of
your monitor...
In your monitor section you are giving a specific synch instead of a synch range which 
is probably
why you are getting:
(II) S3VIRGE(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)

I would
1. remove whatever you have as far as modelines in your monitor section (the defaults 
should work)
2. add the mode 1024x768 in your screen display subsection -you need only keep the one 
for depth
16 since this is your default depth - you can also restrict yourself to one resolution 
to simplify
your life, 
I suspect this might already get you going if not re-post mainly your config file...
Lionel
 
Benjamin GOURLAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> my cursor is good now (i add the option "swcursor" in my XF86config-4) but the 
>display always be
> bad. 
> 
> I give you my XF86config-4 and my XFree86.0.log... this may help you to help me...
> 
> A lot of thanks for your answers...
> 
> Benjamin


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Re: [Newbie]more than one session

[Lionel Lecoq]

I can only tell you how to start another session from the same machine (don't have a 
network and
other users)
startx -- :# (# being 1 or 2 or 3...up to 6 I believe)
Lionel
--- Gregor Karzelek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> I want to know how I can tell my Xfree86 version 4.1-Server to allow more 
> than one session.
> For those who don't know what I mean:
> I want to be able to start on e.g. [cmd]+[alt]+[F8] a second X-Session for a 
> other user.
> And I want to be able that other Linuxsystems can start via ssh a sesson on 
> my PC with their Screen an so on.
> 
> Is this a terminal-server?
> 
> What do I have to do in order to be able to realize it?
> 
> I hope you can help me.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]X server problems

[Lionel Lecoq]

you may have to download the NVIDIA driver (see their site...)
Lionel
--- pemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a laptop Toshiba Satellite 5105-S607 equiped with NVIDIA GeForce4 
> 440 Go card and a Toshiba's 15" UXGA TFT (1600x1200) display.
> I'm trying to make RedHat 7.2 working on that system, but I have problems 
> with making X server to work. My current version of X is 4.1.0.
> I wonder if anyone knows what should be done and if the current version of 
> XFree86 can handle this graphics card and display.
> Any advice is appreciated.
> Thanks.
> Paul


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Re: [Newbie]GeForce2 on ASUS and XFree86-4.2.0

[Lionel Lecoq]

I don't know much about FreeBSD, However I would add
DefaultDepth16 # or 24 whichever you need
to the screen section, and in the corresponding subsection display 
Modes   "1024x768" # or any resolution you need
hope that will help (but may not suffice...) you may also want to download the nvidia 
driver from
their site..
Lionel


--- User Tomdean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a system running FreeBSD 4.5 w/ an ASUS A7N266-E motherboard
> with the integrated VGA adapter, using the NVIDIA GeForce2 logic.  The
> system has 512MB RAM.
> 
> I run XFree86 -configure and it seems to work.  I get the attached
> XF86Config file.  It all looks OK.  The output from 
> `XFree86 -verbose 9 -configure` is also attached.
> 
> If I test w/ `XFree96 -verbose 9 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new` it
> crashes the system.  The display flickers one time and freezes.  The
> system cannot be pinged, it does not respond to "Caps Lock" or any
> other keyboard action.  The only way out is Reset.
> 
> The log file is lost, so there are no error messages.
> 
> There are no modelines in the config file, but, that only has to do
> with the monitor.  It should not crash the system.
> 
> I think I am missing something simple.  What can I do to debug this
> problem?
> 
> tomdean
> 
> 
>  XF86Config.new ==
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
>   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
>   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load  "extmod"
>   Load  "xie"
>   Load  "pex5"
>   Load  "glx"
>   Load  "dri"
>   Load  "dbe"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "xtrap"
>   Load  "speedo"
>   Load  "type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>   Driver  "keyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "auto"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier   "Monitor0"
>   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>   ModelName"Monitor Model"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "SWcursor"# []
> #Option "HWcursor"# []
> #Option "NoAccel" # []
> #Option "ShowCache"   # []
> #Option "ShadowFB"# []
> #Option "UseFBDev"# []
> #Option "Rotate"  # []
> #Option "VideoKey"# 
> #Option "FlatPanel"   # []
>   Identifier  "Card0"
>   Driver  "nv"
>   VendorName  "NVidia"
>   BoardName   "GeForce2 Integrated"
>   BusID   "PCI:2:0:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 4
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 8
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 15
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 16
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 24
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
>  XFree86-config-out ===
> 
> XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
> Release Date: 18 January 2002
>   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
>   newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
>   reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.5 i386 [ELF] 
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Apr 10 18:23:41 2002
> (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
> (--) using VT number 9
> 
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
> (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFre

Re: [Newbie]Trident TGUI9680, Samsung SyncMaster 3 and XFree4

[Lionel Lecoq]

Don't know whether this will help you much...
1. do you have RH 7.2 beta (Roswell I believe) I had the problem you describe when I 
was using it
before the release version (Enigma) came out. Switching to the release version got rid 
of the
problem...
2. I don't let Xconfigurator test my configuration (there is a yes/no option for the 
test) because
more often that not it bums out and I have a non functioning configuration. 
So run Xconfigurator without the test and if you still have problem post your 
XF86Config-4 (I
assume you are really running 4.1, check with X -version because RH sometimes enable 
3.3.6 instead
of 4.1 if it thinks the graphic card is better supported by the older version. This is 
a common
problem with older equipment...)
If it turns out you are running 3.3.6 then it is XF86Config which is the *right* 
config. file
Lionel

--- Rodrigo Teruo Tomita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My doubt can be simple, but I tried everything I know...
> 
> I have an old computer, Pentium 200 MMX, Trident TGUI 9680 video card and
> a Samsung SyncMaster 3 monitor. I`m using XFree 86 4.1.0 (RedHat 7.2) and
> KDE.
> 
> In the login screen (and in KDE), I get a range on the top of my screen
> that appears in gray and if I move the mouse over there, parts of windows
> and other cursors appear (and disapear as I move the mouse).
> 
> Using the Xconfigurator, I got another problem. It detects my video card
> properly, I set the monitor as well and set all possible resolutions.
> Next, the Xconfigurator tries to start (or test) the configuration and
> says that an error occured and ask me to go back and configure again.
> 
> What should I do? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Rodrigo Tomita
> 
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Re: [Newbie]rh 7.2/XFree86 diamond viper card and frozen display

[Lionel Lecoq]

The config file you sent IS a 3.3.6 config file not a 4.1.0 one (recognisable by the 
existence of
a "section keyboard" this has been replaced in 4.x.x by a "section InputDevice")
run X -version to check what you are running.
If you are really running 4.x.x then post your XF86Config-4
Lionel 
--- Mark Bouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks --
> 
> I have the following system --
> 
> Red Hat v7.2
> Diamond Viper V3xx Series VidCard with nVidia Riva 128 ZX Chipset (4MB)
> Logitech FirstMouse PS/2
> XFree86_SVGA server v4.1.0
> XFree4 driver "nv"
> Dell D1626HT monitor
> 3COM Eth 10/100 PCI NIC 3c905B-TX
> CS4236 Audio:WSS/SB PnP
> 
> When I configured XFree86, the Xtest at the end of the install sequence
> worked fine. But a subsequent boot into the X11 run level froze my display.
> 
> I've checked the redhat, xfree86, and nvidia sites. I tried installing the
> rh_linux-7.2 nvidia
> driver from the nvidia download site, but there were too many unknown
> symbols for it
> to load. I also read about a possible sound card problem/module contention.
> I removed
> the sound modules via , but to no avail.
> 
> Has anyone come across a fix for this?? Any and all help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Below, find a copy of my XFree86-4 config file ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> XFree86-4 --
> 
> 
> # File generated by XConfigurator.
> 
> # **
> # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
> # this file.
> # **
> 
> # **
> # Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
> # **
> 
> Section "Files"
> 
> # The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
> # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
> # no need to change the default.
> 
> RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> 
> # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
> # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
> # the X server to render fonts.
> 
> FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
> FontPath   "unix/:-1"
> FontPath   "unix/:7101"
> 
> EndSection
> 
> # **
> # Server flags section.
> # **
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
> 
> # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
> # received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
> # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
> #NoTrapSignals
> 
> # Uncomment this to disable the  server abort sequence
> # This allows clients to receive this key event.
> #DontZap
> 
> # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching
> # sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.
> #DontZoom
> EndSection
> 
> # **
> # Input devices
> # **
> 
> # **
> # Keyboard section
> # **
> 
> Section "Keyboard"
> 
> Protocol"Standard"
> 
> # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
> # following line
> #Protocol   "Xqueue"
> 
> AutoRepeat  500 5
> 
> # Let the server do the NumLock processing.  This should only be
> # required when using pre-R6 clients
> #ServerNumLock
> 
> # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
> #Xleds  1 2 3
> 
> #To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
> #RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:
> 
> LeftAltMeta
> RightAltMeta
>ScrollLock  Compose
>RightCtlControl
> 
> # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
> 
> #XkbDisable
> 
> # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
> # lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
> # keyboard, you will probably want to use:
> #XkbModel"pc102"
> # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
> #XkbModel"microsoft"
> #
> # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
> # For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
> #XkbLayout   "de"
> # or:
> #XkbLayout   "de"
> #XkbVariant  "nodeadkeys"
> #
> # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
> # control keys, use:
> #XkbOptions  "ctrl:swapcaps"
> 
> # These are the default XKB settings for 

Re: [Newbie]r128.o failed to load in XFree 4.2

[Lionel Lecoq]

Do you have

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
in your XF86Config
Lionel

--- Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scribbling feverishly on April 13, Klaus-Peter Schrage managed to emit:
> 
> [loading DRI snipped]
> 
> Hallo, Klaus-Peter,
> 
> > After restarting the x-server, voilà: dri.
> > There are two hitches left with my setup: 
> > - When the kde login shows up, it is barely readable and the screen is 
> > a bit scrambled, but when kde get loaded, the screen looks nice as ever.
> > - dmesg shows me two two errors:
> > 
> > mtrr: no MTRR for dc00,200 found
> 
> This is the Memory Type Range Register (hence, MTRR). In your kernel
> config file, set
> 
> CONFIG_MTRR=y
> 
> and recompile.
> 
> > [drm:r128_cce_indirect] *ERROR* process 687 using buffer owned by 0
> 
> This means that the process numbered 687 is trying to access a buffer 
> owned by the UID 0, which is root. The error is coming out of the DRM
> code ($KERNEL/drivers/char/drm), specifically r128_state.c. To the
> degree I understand the code, and I confess my understanding of it
> is limited, this error occurs in three places. In general,
> the process is trying to flush some data to keep texture memory
> intact, but doesn't have root privileges and is causing an error.
> 
> I'd definitely browse the archives of the Xpert mailing list and see 
> if this has come up before (I'm sure it has) and how to fix it.
> 
> Kurt
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Re: [Newbie]Video card and monitor detected properly, but X does not work

[Lionel Lecoq]

You should post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (configuration file) and 
/var/log/XFree86.0.log (log
file)
Lionel 
--- Cary Pembleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good Day all! 
> I have a new install of RH 7.2 and it detected my ATI Rage 128 with 16 Meg. Of RAM 
>and my KDS
> monitor correctly, however X will not run. Any suggestions?
> Thanks,
> PC Networks, Inc. and KY4U, LLC
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Re: [Newbie]Again Logitech and wheel

[Lionel Lecoq]

Usually
Option "ZaxisMapping" "4 5"
works
Lionel
--- Peeter Vois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Looks like I was little too stupid when I bought Logitech Mouse:
> 
> PS2/USB,Optical,3buttons,wheel,M-BD69
> 
> This thing works, but the wheel does not work. I readed the messages
> from many places but did not help. This mouse just will not send out
> the wheel movement messages. The somewhere suggested IMPS/2 driver did
> not work: the mouse moved to upper right corner quickly and the wheel
> was still not functioning.
> 
> Has anybody Ideas how to make it working or can give me tips how to hack
> this thing a little?
> 
> I'll be searching further...
> 
> Peeter Vois
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Re: [Newbie]hello, i'm new to newbies and have a monitor question

[Lionel Lecoq]

If the config program identify your card as s3virge and your card is not a s3 virge 
card then the
problem is not at the monitor...
What we need (and you don't give it in you follow-up posts) is:
graphic card, monitor (remember the only important thing for the monitor are the synch 
figures...)
your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and your /var/log/XFree86.0.log file
from then on one can try to help you with some chance of success...
Lionel  
--- "john.stylemans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed a RedHat 7.0 on an inherrited comp, as i intend to change 
>everything i have at
> home into linux.  hmm, yes, getting B.Gates sick...
> 
> I'm brand new to linux, and i have to learn A LOT about Linus Torvalds world 
>changing OS. Also
> about RedHat and X86config in specific.
> 
> I'm trying hard to find every item throuhg the internet,  on websites like these,  
>at RedHat
> itself, and who knows where else i can find stuff 'bout it... ?
> 
> But for now as i installed R H 7.0 i have a problem starting X.
> The problem is completely situated at the monitor.   The video card is configured 
>ok, (i guess)
> as it was listed in the setup config screen. the mouse and every other possible 
>device is
> working fine as i receive everything in OK's except for a network card (eth0), but 
>that's not
> the point now. (something for later maybe??).
> 
> The monitor's company does not give me any specifications on resolution, colors, or 
>whatever
> necessary (like Hsync, Vsync, Memory...) its a monitor 14" and i only want to 
>see xwindows
> in a normal situation,  I believe my vid card supports the monitor, as this card is 
>certainly
> newer then the monitor, (diamond multimedia stealth 2500 >supported type by 
>X86confg).  I was
> unable to find any default or standard monitor type as i used the expert mode to 
>install R H
> 7.0...
> 
> this is what i get when i try to run startx
> 
> QUOTE :
> 
> compiled for 4.0.1a, module version = 1.0.0
> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module v4l
> (EE) Failed to load module "v4l" (module does not exist, 0)
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o --> what's astonishing 
>me is that
> i never configured s3virge,maybe here the problem started ?
> (II) Module s3virge: vendor="The XFree 86 Project"
>  compiled for 4.0.1a, module version = 1.2.0
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
> (II) Module mouse: vendor= "The XFree 86 Project"
>   compiled for 4.0.1a, module version = 1.0.0
> (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.2.0) for S3 ViRGE chipsets : virge, 86C325,
> virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2,
> 86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365,
> trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368
> (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> 
> When reporting a problem related to a server chrash, please send the full server 
>output, not
> just the last message.
> This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
> Please reports problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
> [root@hostname /root]#
> 
> UNQUOTE:
> 
> yep that's the whole story.  It might be a question already phrased inside this 
>mailing list, as
> far as i could look (january 1970) i could not find an answer... :(
> So please dont shoot me for not finding it..  Thanks in advance for any positive 
>reply to my
> situation.
> 
> kind + friendly regards.
> 
> ps.  some day i hope to pay back to this community.
> 
> :)
> 


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Re: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless Evil.

[Lionel Lecoq]

Not only do I agree with the proposal but I would probably uncomment everything but 
xtrap...
Lionel
--- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:08:22 -0400
> "Jamey Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > errors, though.  After the white text I get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to
> > load glX" "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the Nvdriver kernel
> > module!" "(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***" "Fatal server error:
> > AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0"
> [...]
> > Section "Module"
> > #   Load  "extmod"
> > #Load  "dri"
> > #Load  "dbe"
> > #Load  "record"
> > #Load  "xtrap"
> > #Load  "speedo"
> > #Load  "type1"
> > EndSection
> 
> Try adding
> 
> Load  "glx"
> 
> to the "Module" section.  Might want to un-comment some of these others,
> too.
> 
> Disclaimer:  I'm just guessing.
> 
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RE: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless Evil.

[Lionel Lecoq]

I did not follow the thread, so sorry if what I ask has already been answered...
are you running nv or the nvidia closed source driver. I believe (from what I saw on 
this list, I
don't have a nvidia) that getting the nvidia driver (download from their site) might 
be the only
way...
Lionel
--- Jamey Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still no dice.  Same error.  Someone has to have some idea about what I'm
> doing wrong  I mean, there are loads of people out there with FreeBSD
> 4.5-stable and X 4.2.0 running on GeForce 2 Go video cards.  :(
> 
> I think I'm going to start doing drastic things like trying out -current or
> something.
> 
> Fish
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lionel Lecoq
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless
> Evil.
> 
> Not only do I agree with the proposal but I would probably uncomment
> everything but xtrap...
> Lionel
> --- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:08:22 -0400
> > "Jamey Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > errors, though.  After the white text I get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to
> > > load glX" "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the Nvdriver kernel
> > > module!" "(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***" "Fatal server error:
> > > AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0"
> > [...]
> > > Section "Module"
> > > #   Load  "extmod"
> > > #Load  "dri"
> > > #Load  "dbe"
> > > #Load  "record"
> > > #Load  "xtrap"
> > > #Load  "speedo"
> > > #Load  "type1"
> > > EndSection
> >
> > Try adding
> >
> > Load  "glx"
> >
> > to the "Module" section.  Might want to un-comment some of these others,
> > too.
> >
> > Disclaimer:  I'm just guessing.
> >
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Re: [Newbie]keyboard layout

[Lionel Lecoq]

Option  "XkbMode1"  "pc102"
Option  "XkbLayout" "de_CH"

Lionel

--- "Popp, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using Cygwin/Xfree86. Everyting ist running fine but i want to change
> the keyboard layout to swiss german. What have i to do?
> 
> Thomas
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RE: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless Evil.

[Lionel Lecoq]

Sorry for not having followed up but I don't know nvidia cards and drivers.
I won't be able to help you with point 1 either because I am not sure where FreeBSD 
does it's call
to the desktop (in RH 7.x it's in .Clients -or more exactly in the file pointed to by 
.Clients I
don't have the exact name because I am not on my mobo...- It can also be in .xinitrc 
-I hope my
memory is OK as to the spelling. Alzeimer you know...
As to point 2. X is very likely using 640x480 which is usually bad news because in 
most cases it
means that the card has not been recognised and that the vga (dumb) driver is being 
used...
I do think posting both your XF86Config and the log would help...
Lionel


--- Jamey Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, so I went ahead and fixed the problem myself.  Long story short, X
> seems to work with FreeBSD 5.0 DP1 and Xfree86 4.2.0 -current (after I fixed
> the typos in the source that caused it not to compile).  Now I have a new
> issue, two, actually.  1. When I run Xfree86, I get the nice little
> hatched-background and my pointer moves gleefully.  No more.  No desktop, no
> nothing.  I'm guessing I need to install KDE or something, though I thought
> I had.  Can anyone confirm/deny my suspicion there?  Second, the nice little
> hatched area is about one quarter the size of my screen, and centered.  I
> took a config file generated with the -configure switch and added the
> following lines, but still the display was the same size.
> 
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   24
> Modes   "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   16
> Modes   "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   8
> Modes   "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
> EndSubsection
> 
> Without the Depth 8 section in there, something complained about there being
> no 8bpp configuration.  I'd love to pull up the error for you, but the
> battery in my laptop just died.  What am I doing wrong this time?  I'm going
> to guess these problems are simpler to solve than my last one, so I'm hoping
> for a good turnout of advice
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Fish
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jamey Price
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless
> Evil.
> 
> I've got the nvidia driver.
> 
> Fish
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lionel Lecoq
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and Mindless
> Evil.
> 
> I did not follow the thread, so sorry if what I ask has already been
> answered...
> are you running nv or the nvidia closed source driver. I believe (from what
> I saw on this list, I
> don't have a nvidia) that getting the nvidia driver (download from their
> site) might be the only
> way...
> Lionel
> --- Jamey Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Still no dice.  Same error.  Someone has to have some idea about what I'm
> > doing wrong  I mean, there are loads of people out there with FreeBSD
> > 4.5-stable and X 4.2.0 running on GeForce 2 Go video cards.  :(
> >
> > I think I'm going to start doing drastic things like trying out -current
> or
> > something.
> >
> > Fish
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of
> > Lionel Lecoq
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:02 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Newbie]Dell Inspiron 8200, Geforce 2 Go, FreeBSD, and
> Mindless
> > Evil.
> >
> > Not only do I agree with the proposal but I would probably uncomment
> > everything but xtrap...
> > Lionel
> > --- Ted Spradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 10:08:22 -0400
> > > "Jamey Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > > errors, though.  After the white text I get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to
> > > > load glX" "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the Nvdriver kernel
> > > > module!" "(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***" "Fatal server error:

Re: [Newbie]/mnt/usr/X11R6/lib/Server/drivers/vga256/ati/*

[Lionel Lecoq]

There used to be an r128 may be it is still there(?)
Lionel

--- Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, you'll be quite proud of me - I took 13 minutes and in a swirl of
> mixed pleasure (relief) and pain and despair, learned that my video adapter
> (supposedly Rage 128 based; it's an ATI All-in-Wonder 16mb AGP card) is
> -not- supported by the ati driver, even though the running of `XFree86
> -configure` happily picks this driver out every time and packages it with a
> pink ribbon!  >:-(
> 
> So my question -- after RTFM -- to you all oh so nice sweet folk out there
> moving electrons and neurons around is... Why do the contents of
> /mnt/usr/X11R6/lib/Server/drivers/vga256/ati/* appear to be "compile-time"
> stuff rather than ACTUAL binary drivers, and further, what is the path to
> THE "ati" driver, and stretching this concept even further, when I did
> RTFM, it said something about using the Mach64 driver;  What's THAT?
> Where can I procure it?  Will there ever be a land animal faster than the
> Cheetah?
> 
> Kudeeoze,
> 
> --
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> Video2Video Services
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Re: [Newbie]Re: Rd Hat Video card problems

[Lionel Lecoq]

copying can be done with mcopy (look at man mcopy) there is also mdir etc... so 
transfering
between the two differently formatted HD is no problem.
However, I would coldly upgrade to RH 7.2 (if your line is fast enough to download the 
600+ MB)
That way you bypass the kernel and other such issues...
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> I am trying to fix a Red Hat 6.0 bug.  I have loaded it onto my Dell 4100 
> that has a NVIDIA TNT 2 M64 card and am unable to get any video setting  to 
> work but the lowest VGA setting.  I am trying to download the new XFREE 86 
> drivers but don't know how to get the files from Win 98 ME to my Linux 
> directory.  Linux is on a separate hard drive in my box so I can play and NOT 
> screw up anything on my Windows system.  Any help would be appreciated!
> 
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Re: [Newbie](EE) No devices detected.

[Lionel Lecoq]

Your XF86Config (resp. XF86Config-4) would be useful. It looks as if in your screen 
section you
did not have a display subsection which fit with your card / monitor / resolution 
combination
Lionel


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> Hello
> I have XFree86 3.3.6 , I download 4.2.0 and follow
> http://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc22/Install
> step by step (I used Xinstall.sh ) , the installation . After that I used
> xf86config and  xf86cfg to make XF86Config and that was fine too.
> But when I type startx I get :


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Re: [Newbie]Redhat 7.2 (XF86 4.1.0) and Voodoo2

[Lionel Lecoq]

With an interactive login you are in X. you can possibly with Ctrl Alt F1 get to the 
corresponding
console (??? I don't use an interactive login) 
or you can  change the runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab in order to have a standard login 
(then
startx to get X going)
Lionel
--- uno hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need help getting a Canopus Pure 3D II setup in Redhat 7.2.  I've downloaded and 
>installed the
> Linux-ix86-glibc22 binaries as the utility to report the correct version to install 
>results in
> "no XFree86 4.2.0 version available for this version of Linux" (something to that 
>effect).  The
> installation of these binaries resulted in KDE being unusable.  When I log in I'm 
>dumped to the
> X GUI (I assume).  I've read that it is recommended that X shouldn't be running 
>during
> installation but, being a newbie, I have no idea when it is or isn't.  Is the 
>graphical login
> using X?  Is there a way to login via the graphical login and be dumped to the 
>command line?  I
> have yet to find a good process for installation.  Redhat doesn't have an update to 
>XF86 4.2.0
> yet.  I'd really like to get this working.
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Re: [Newbie]Compaq Deskpro 2000 5166MMX w/integrated S3 Trio64V4

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi,
Have a look at www.xfree86.org > Support,Documentation and resources > XFree86.4.x.x 
online
documentation > Drivers status for... and then S3
You will find out that the card is supported under some restrictions
If, in your case it is not, you should have no problems with v3, try using the SVGA 
driver...
posting both XF86Config file and log (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) would allow people to 
help.
Lionel
--- Peter Gloor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to get XFree86 V4 working on a Compaq Deskpro 2000 5166MMX
> w/integrated S3 Trio64V4 on SuSE Linux 7.3.
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Re: [Newbie]xfs - can anyone help?

[Lionel Lecoq]

I would comment out the statement (unix/:-1) from XF86Config: first it looks strange 
to me (but
then I only know RH well), second the defaults should take care of themselves
Lionel

--- "Rooke, David Willaim (David)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
> Whenever I try to start an X session, either for console or remote sessions,
> I get the error below. Can anyone help? From what I've observed it seems the
> X server can't start because xfs isn't serving the necessary fonts. xfs is
> running, however. 
> 
> Regards,
> David Rooke
> 
> >XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
> >(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
> >Release Date: 23 January 2002
> >If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> >newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> >reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
> >Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-1mdksmp i686 [ELF]
> >Module Loader present
> >Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> >(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Apr 24 14:42:19 2002
> >(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
> >(EE) MGA(0): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI
> >(EE) MGA(0): Need at least 4608 kB video memory at this resolution, bit
> depth
> >Could not init font path element unix/:-1, removing from list!
> >
> >Fatal server error:
> >could not open default font 'fixed'
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Re: [Newbie]Compaq Deskpro 2000 5166MMX w/integrated S3 Trio64V4

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi,
Problem with the vesa is that it is not accelerated. I have an old laptop with an S3
Inc.|86cM65 [Aurora64V+] and 2MB I can run it with V4 and VESA, but V3 and SVGA 
(accelerated) runs
much faster so I downgraded. Actually KDE 2.2.1, gnome etc... run quite well on V3
Cheers
Lionel 


> I managed to get it going through vesa fb dev in the kernel it's a little 
> sloppy.
> 
> But it's ok for now. Just recompile the kernel with fbdev with vesa supp 
> vga=-3 (Option for lilo) and enter 313 after showing modes, and you've got 
> (with a little overhead) 800*600 16 bits. 
 


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Re: [Newbie]GUI lockups

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi,
I was not aware that there was a Mystique 1064SG. However, I did have a 1064 and the 
lack of a
driver drove me to this list a long time ago, I found out that except from spending 
$100 for a
commercial driver (whose demo version worked quite well actually) the solution was to 
spend $50
for a new ATI card...
Lionel
--- Bob Holtzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Peter Gloor wrote:
> 
> > If you have a Mystique G200 than try the latest drivers available from
> > Matrox. I've just been able to successfully setup XFree86 V4.2 with the Beta
> > version of the driver I found at
> > http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/files/lnx_200.cfm.
> > 
> > If you have a Mystique or Mystique 200, than Matrox (the company) does not
> > provide Linux support.
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> My card is the Mystique 1064SG. Not sure what the 200 is.
> 
> The curious thing is that my previous version of Redhat (6.0) 
> running XFree86 3.x supported my card and 7.2 with XFree86 4.1.0
> doesn't seem to. Is more memory required to run XFree86 4.x? If
> so how much?   
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bob Holtzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 7:07 AM
> > Subject: [Newbie]GUI lockups
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm running RH7.2 w/ 128 mb RAM and a Matrox Mystique video card w/ 2 mb
> > of
> > > memory on a PII 350 box. Runs fine in level 3 but when in level 5 with
> > > Gnome or KDE I get random lockups with the mouse buttons and keyboard
> > dead.
> > > The cursor doesn't freeze, but nothing highlights when the cursor is on it
> > > and the buttons are dead. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+ Delete or Ctrl+Alt+
> > > Backspace. One thing I've noticed is that it takes much longer to freeze
> > > when I run in 8 bit color than in 16 bit. According to the Redhat hardware
> > > compatibility list, my card is compatible w/ RH7.2, but I'm beginning to
> > > wonder. This is the same box that I ran a highly tweaked RH6.0 on for over
> > > a year with no problems, but that was with XFree86 3.x. RH7.2 runs XFree86
> > > 4.x and I'm wondering if it requires more video memory than I have.
> > >
> > > Redhat support's final comments after trying to solve the problem were:
> > >
> > > >Usually the solution for lower RAM is to use the other mode or lower bit
> > > mode.
> > > >If the issue still persists, we recommend posting it to bugzilla entry
> > > because
> > > >we already tried various solutions such as using the lowest mode, using
> > > the old
> > > >server, and others.  This can also be due to bug errors which our System
> > > >Developers may assist you more.
> > >
> > > Redhat bugzilla was less than helpfull.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > Bob Holtzman
> > > "If you think you're getting free lunch,
> > > check the price of the beer!"
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Re: [Newbie]Can't logon after XFree86 4.2.0 install

[Lionel Lecoq]

Are you using an interactive login? If so disactivate it and try tuning your 
XF86Config resp.
XF86Config-4.
I also once made the same mistake: gnome kde etc. are considered as customisation i.e. 
one must
hack the various files if one let the install wipe out everything...
Lionel


--- Jeffrey Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed glibc-2.2.5 and gcc-3.0.4 on my Redhat 6.2 system so I could 
> use the
> XFree86 4.2.0 binaries to do my upgrade.  I am running KDE desktop 1.1.2.
> The XFree86 install seemed to go fine as did the following run of 
> xf86config.
> 
> During the install of XFree86 4.2.0 I was asked if I wanted to overwrite 
> the previous
> config files such as app-defaults, fs, xdm, etc.  The documenttion said 
> that if I hadn't
> customized any of these files it would be OK to answer "Y" to all these 
> overwrite
> questions, so I did.  Of course, I guess that installing a desktop such 
> as KDE or
> GNOME could be considered as a customization.
> 
> At any rate, when I rebooted following the run of xf86config I was 
> presented with the KDE
> login screen (sans blue background) and typed in my username and 
> password.  The screen
> blanked for a second and then returned me to the login screen.  Does 
> anyone know what
> is happening here?  Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff Stephens
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Re: [Newbie]help needed on X configuration SiS 630 redhat 7.2

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi, 
1. no HTML on this list, it's not nice for those with a slow connection to the web...
2. I regret to have to say that you seem to have a mess: 
The X server: XF86_SVGA is an X 3.3.6 server (as opposed to drivers which are what X 
4.1.0 uses)

Cure:
1. find out whether you are running X 4.1.0 or X 3.3.6 X -version will tell you
2. if you are using X 4.1.0 then the config file is most likely /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
3. on the other hand if you are using X 3.3.6 then you want probably 
/etc/X11/XF86Config
4. Your chip set is supported you should use google on this list because there were 
some
peculiarities (not having one I did not register them) and some solutions, possibly 
you may have
to upgrade to X 4.2.0
5. I do believe that 3.3.6 is out of the picture...

once you have cleared things up post again if it does not work...
Lionel 

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Re: [Newbie]Can't startx.. help

[Lionel Lecoq]

check and if necessary change the authorizations on /var, /var/log, and on the file 
itself...
Lionel
--- Hesty P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This might be something simple, whenever I tried
> to startx as user, I get error:
> 
> Fatal Server Error:
> Cannot open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log"
> 
> Now, I can startx as root, but that's not a solution.
> I did download and install some files from 
> gatos.sourceforge.net.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> Cheers,
> Hesty
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Re: [Newbie]screen geometry

[Lionel Lecoq]

This looks as if you were using a lower resolution than the "official" resolution of 
your screen.
Remember that LCD screen have only one physical resolution. Using a lower resolution 
results in
the window not using the full physical screen...
Lionel
--- Ryan Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using 4.2.0 with a trident cyber xp video driver.  One thing is that
> the desktop (ximian gnome) is not taking advantage of the entire
> screen.  I'm using a Toshiba Satellite 1805-274.  I tried different
> settings in Xconfigure to no avail.  Any suggestions appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Ryan Wheeler (Windows abandoner)
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Duh....4.0.0

[Lionel Lecoq]

The information you give ia rather scarce, posting your XF86Config and the log might 
help people
help you...
Lionel
--- "Thomas P. Colson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OpenBSD 2.9, XFree86 4.0.1, 15 " Samsung 5E monitor, Matrox MGA G100 card, generic 
>MS mouse,
> Generic KB. I run xf86config, works fine, startx, video starts, and I see an "xterm" 
>window, but
> soon as I move the mouse, the screen goes nuts! I've tried every mouse option in 
>xf86config, but
> still same problem. Any ideas?
> 
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> Minister Of Information
> (919) 788-1366
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Re: [Newbie]fbdev not normal colors

[Lionel Lecoq]

Why not use the s3 driver?
Lionel
--- Ringo Harmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am using a fbdev, but I get rather strange colors (I think ist 16 Bit or someting)
> Here is my XF86Config
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Re: [Newbie]fbdev not normal colors

[Lionel Lecoq]

There is a possibility that your card be not supported by 4.x.x look at 
www.xfree86.org > Support, Documentation and Resources > XFree86-4.2.0 Current Release
documentation  > Driver Status for XFree86[tm] 4.2.0 > S3
There was a post on that subject a week or two ago (use google on the list)
In some cases people ended up downgrading to v3.3.6 in order to have acceleration
In any case, with v 4.x.x, the vesa driver (regretably not accelerated) might solve 
your problem
better than fbdev...
Lionel
--- Ringo Harmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:55AM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
> > Why not use the s3 driver?
> 
> Can't find my driver  86C785  
> Dunno why ... 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]S3 Video Chip: Trio3D/2X (362/368)

[Lionel Lecoq]

In X 3.x.x you have to have different servers for differents video adapters. i.e. the 
server only
has a driver for a specific type of card but for the SVGA which is a more or less 
"universal"
server driver combination.
in v4.x.x you have only one server (XFree86) which can use different driver modules 
(the S3,
s3virge, vesa, ati, etc. drivers) This is a cleaner implementation.
If I were you, I would try first the  X 4.x.x version of X with the driver which is 
recommended
(s3virge, which is to be specified in the device section)
If the results were to be unsatisfactory, I would downgrade to X 3.x.x (usually 3.3.6) 
using the
SVGA (i.e. XF86_SVGA) and wait for a newer release of X 4.x.x with (hopefully) a 
usable driver for
your card.
I myself have an S3 aurora64+ on a laptop and downgrading gave the best results (the 
card was
supported by neither the s3 nor the s3virge driver, worked well but unaccelerated with 
vesa, and
worked very well and accelerated with X 3.3.6 and SVGA)
Lionel



--- Morten Gulbrandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello again, 
> 
> I went to the S3 homepage and downloaded 
> s3id.exe  
> 
> 
> A:\>s3id
> 
> S3 Chip Identify Utility Version 1.00.07
> 
> Related CR register information:
> CR2D = 0x8A  CR2E = 0x13  CR2F = 0x02  CR30 = 0xE1  CR36 = 0x1F  CR5E =
> 0x00
> CR68 = 0xFF  CR6F = 0xF8  CR72 = 0x00  CR73 = 0x00  CR92 = 0x00  CRB0 =
> 0x00
> 
> S3 Video Chip: Trio3D/2X (362/368)
> Display Memory Size: 8M
> Display Memory Type: SDRAM
> 
> ===
> 
> I think this identifies the chip unambiguously.
> 
> Hence linux, FreeBSD or Solaris  for Intel CPU 
> using  XFree86 3.3.6 and  4.2.0  supports my video board with 
> XF86_SVGA server with the s3v driver   (3.3.6) 
> and   "s3virge"   driver.  (4.2.0)
> 
> I'd now like to know what is a server and what is a driver ?
> 
> why don't 4.2.0 need any server, just a driver ?
> If it needs a server which one am I to select ?
> 
> What is the recommended XFree86  version  for my video card, please ?
> 
> 
> 
> Yours Sincerely
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Problem with XF86_SVGA in RedHat 7.2

[Lionel Lecoq]

Very strange: your system is trying to start X 3.3.6...
did you keep an old version of startx?
/etc/X11/X is usually a symlink to the server, check to what it is pointing. for 
X4.x.x it should
be pointing to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86
For X 3.3.6 it should be pointing to XF86_SVGA which you seem not to have.
You may want to try changing the link to XFree86 adapting the XF86Config-4 (if you 
have one)
otherwise checking the format of XF86Config (one of the differences between an X3 
config and an X4
config is that the former has a "keyboard" and a "pointer" section while the later has 
two "input
device" sections)
Lionel
--- Gotham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a problem to start X-Windows in RedHat 7.2, the same PC worked OK with RedHat 
>7.1, with
> x-windows running.
> 
> The monitor and the video card had been succesfully detected in the installation, 
>but, when I
> try to start X-Windows with "startx", i get the following error mesagge:
> 
> execve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2)
> giving up
> 
> xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): Unable to conect to X server
> xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.
> 
> 
> I tried to run Xconfigurator tool, it show me the Xconfigurator Welcome screen, an 
>then, a
> screen with the followin information:
> 
> [PCI Probe] --> Title of the box.
> 
> PCI Entry: Trident Microsistems | Trident CyberBlade (generic)
> X Server: XF86_SVGA
> XFree4 driver: (default)
> 
> [ OK ] ---> Button
> 
> 
> When I press the OK button, Xconfigurator finishes and I see the following error 
>message:
> 
> Server doesn't exist, can't continue
> tried to use ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
> 
> Thanks for your Help
> 
> Juan Carlos V.
> 


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Re: [Newbie](no subject)

[Lionel Lecoq]

Have you tried removing the font path?
(I am assuming you don't have a permission problem on your fonts or font libraries...)
Lionel
--- David Noriega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Installed XFree86 4.2.0
> 
> When starting up, moniter clicks twice then goes into 
> 
> suppended mode.
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Re: [Newbie]thanks...

[Lionel Lecoq]

Simply removing virtual may suffice.
NOTE: specifying more than one resolution in the mode line of the display subsection 
results in
the highest resolution being the "virtual" resolution. This is why I only specify one 
resolution
in such lines...
Lionel 
--- Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scribbling feverishly on May 12, Joshua Lokken managed to emit:
> > hello
> > 
> > I guess FreeBSD doesn't accept the word 'virtual', but 
> > XF86Config does have ViewPort settings, and they all say 0 0.  
> > Virtual screen is still much larger than I'd like.  Any further 
> > suggestions?
> 
> Have a look at the manual page, then. Someone will correct me if I
> am wrong, but the Virtual keyword is supported regardless of OS.
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "name"
> Device "device"
> ...
> SubSection "Display
> Depth 
> Virtual xdim ydim
> ViewPort x0 y0
> ...
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Video Woes

[Lionel Lecoq]

Look back in this list, here is a tip given by Dustin Cavanaugh:

I've got a motherboard with SiS video, audio, e'net, and modem built in. 
The video shares main memory. I believe the video is 650, but may be 630. 
The o/s is Mandrake 8.1. When installing the o/s I answered "no" to test 
the X config (it always fails to return from the demo screen). Once I start 
the o/s and login, its fine. Never got the audio to work though.

Under 8.2 and Redhat 7.x, the o/s fails to correctly determine the 
available memory and I get a kernel panic, so I start with "linux mem=192M" 
and everything works, including the audio.


There was also a web site given but I don't remember which one, just use google on the 
list...
Lionel


--- Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 20:07, Don Pepe wrote:
> > I will be glad to pay someone for the knowledge I need. I recently 
> > bought a new computer to take the Linux plunge and install Red Hat. It 
> > has an a ASUS 4PS333 motherboard but no separate graphics card. Windows 
> > 2K reports the adapter as SiS650 using sisgrp.sys for a driver. But 
> > xconfigure does not find it automatically and does not accept manual 
> > settings. After $2400 and four weeks of trial and error and web 
> > searching the sole production I have achieved from Linux is "There is a 
> > problem with your Xconfiguration..."I've tried Red Hat, Asus, SiS, 
> > this site, and links from all of them. I have no objection to purchasing 
> > an agp graphics card if I knew for certain there was one that would 
> > solve my problem and if I knew what that one was. Somehow I suspect it 
> > is not that simple.  
> 
> Ok try sending me your current XF86Config file.  Also try starting it as
> root and a normal user.  Send me any error messages you get from root,
> and if there are different error messages under the normal user send
> that too.  Try both startx and xinit.  I gather you are currently using
> XF86 4.2 on redhat 7.{2,3}.  I am currently running that same card under
> Debian GNU/Linux with XF86 4.1.  So as a result my advice will be
> directed towards Debian, but it should be pretty much universal.  Ill
> try and get the XF86Config-4 file from that box sometime tonight.  But
> if you send me all that stuff, I should be able to help.
> 
> ps I am ccing this to you cause Im not subscribed to the list with this
> address and there fore cannot post to the list in a timely fashion.  I
> would say send the requested info off list cause it will be alot of
> info.   
> 
> Peace
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Re: [Newbie]radeon video driver

[Lionel Lecoq]

You need to upgrade to X 4.2 in  order to use radeons
Lionel
--- "Roger E. Steinmetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 05/08/02
> 
> I just installed RedHat Linux 7.0 on my system.
> 
> There where some video drivers for ATI chipsets but not for a Radeon 8500 with 64MB 
>video ram
> 
> My questions are:
> 1) Is there a driver for the Radeon 8500 with 64MB of video ram?
> 2) If there is no driver for the above what can I substitue for the above, to 
>use XWindows
> efficiently?
> 
> Thanks for you help
> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]320x204

[Lionel Lecoq]

Your card is not recognised that's why you get this funny resolution. Try hacking your 
XF86Config
(resp. XF86Config-4) file and use vesa as driver for a start...
If it does not work, one needs to know distribution, X version, a post of your 
XF86Config[-4] ands
log to be able to help you...
Lionel
--- Peter Rader alias Nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT and there is no driver support; How can i 
>change from VGA16
> 320x204 to 1024x786x32?
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Re: [Newbie]odd

[Lionel Lecoq]

I may be mistaken but I don't like the mention of a "core pointer": it reminds me of 
an X 3.3.6
XF86Config rather than the usual input device section of X 4.x.x...
did you possibly use an old config?
Lionel 
--- Noah Poellnitz II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My machine refuses to respond once my xsession is up. 
> I was hopping you could see something in the log that
> I may be overlooking in my setup. 
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Re: [Newbie]XFree86-4.2 not work on RH7.3: HELP!

[Lionel Lecoq]

Hi,
In case vesa has remained unaccelerated downgrading to 3.3.6 may be the better 
alternative...
Lionel

--- Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like your chip isn't supported by the S3 driver in 4.x. Whereas
> RH 7.2 on your machine may well have been using 3.3.6.
> 
> This seems to be stinging quite a few people with S3 cards.
> 
> The quick fix, is to modify your XF86Config file and change the
> line that says.
> 
>   Driver "s3"
> 
> to
> 
>   Driver "vesa"
> 
> Other than that, you'll need to drop back to 3.3.6.
> 
> Alan.
> 
> On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:39:16 -0400, NGUYEN DAI Quy wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm using RH7.2 (kernel 2.4.9) with XFree86-4.1 on S3 Triov64 card. It 
> > works fine.
> > When I try to install RH7.3 (XFree86-4.2.x): my card was detected OK, 
> > the X server test during installation is OK. But after reboot,  I can 
> > not run X at all. When I type "startx", XFree86 gives me an error about 
> > config file, which was created by RH installer.
> > 
> > So I try Xconfigurator but NO LUCK because this program gives 
> > me a core dump file :(
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Re: [Newbie]cannot change virtual screensize: XF86Config "Virtual" line ignored

[Lionel Lecoq]

In spite of your previous answer I would definitely try specifying a mode other than 
default in
the display subsection
Lionel
--- Maximilian Riesenhuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm running (or trying to get to run...) RH7.2 on a ThinkPad A31p. Since
> the ATI Mobility 7800 is not supported, I installed the framebuffer
> driver, which comes up fine (running in vesa mode 884, 1600x1200, 16
> bpp). However, it gives me a gigantic virtual desktop, something like
> 1600x6000 or so. I've tried putting "Virtual 0 0" or Virtual "1600 1200"
> in my XF86Config, but it doesn't have any effect. I'm using Modes
> "default".
> 
> Is there any other way of setting the desktop size? Could these problems
> have something to do with my installing XFree4.2 first, and then the
> 3.3.6 FBDev?
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> --MAX
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Re: [Newbie]odd

[Lionel Lecoq]

Well that does not tell me much, do you have a "pointer" section or an "input device" 
section for
your mouse? Only the latter is right for X 4.x.x
Lionel 
--- Noah Poellnitz II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wiped it clean and put slack 8 on it.  
> 
> --- Lionel Lecoq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I may be mistaken but I don't like the mention of a
> > "core pointer": it reminds me of an X 3.3.6
> > XF86Config rather than the usual input device
> > section of X 4.x.x...
> > did you possibly use an old config?
> > Lionel 
> > --- Noah Poellnitz II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > My machine refuses to respond once my xsession is
> > up. 
> > > I was hopping you could see something in the log
> > that
> > > I may be overlooking in my setup. 
> > > 
> > 
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Re: [Newbie]Too large screen

[Lionel Lecoq]

look in your XF86Config if you have a virtual resolution defined somewhere and comment 
it out, in
the "modes" line of the display subsection leave only the resolution you want (the 
highest is
taken by default as the virtual resolution if this is not specified elsewhere...)
Lionel

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> I have intel 810 chipset & onboard graphics when i installed linux 
> redhat 6.0 with svga server it is showing too large screen i can 
> scroll out of screen please help
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Re: [Newbie]cannot change virtual screensize: XF86Config "Virtual" line ignored

[Lionel Lecoq]

I was not speaking of the "modeline" you find in the monitor section, X can find out 
what is valid
by itself (usually:^) -i.e. you can usually remove or comment out all "modeline" lines 
there- but
from the "modes" line in the display subsection of the screen section. There, it 
suffices to
specify what you want in the subsection which has the depth given in the 
"DefaultDepth" line of
the screen section...
Lionel


--- Maximilian Riesenhuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your help. I'd love to do that, the problem is that I don't
> know what modelines to put in there. I tried copying one for 1600x1200
> but then X complained that it wasn't a valid mode. Any advice on how I
> can hack up an appropriate modeline?
> 
> --MAX
> 
> Lionel Lecoq wrote:
> > 
> > In spite of your previous answer I would definitely try specifying a mode other 
>than default
> in
> > the display subsection
> > Lionel
> > --- Maximilian Riesenhuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm running (or trying to get to run...) RH7.2 on a ThinkPad A31p. Since
> > > the ATI Mobility 7800 is not supported, I installed the framebuffer
> > > driver, which comes up fine (running in vesa mode 884, 1600x1200, 16
> > > bpp). However, it gives me a gigantic virtual desktop, something like
> > > 1600x6000 or so. I've tried putting "Virtual 0 0" or Virtual "1600 1200"
> > > in my XF86Config, but it doesn't have any effect. I'm using Modes
> > > "default".
> > >
> > > Is there any other way of setting the desktop size? Could these problems
> > > have something to do with my installing XFree4.2 first, and then the
> > > 3.3.6 FBDev?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > >
> > > --MAX
> > >
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Re: [Newbie]How to know the Xfree86 's version in my RH 7.2

[Lionel Lecoq]

X -version should tell you...

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Re: [Newbie]RedHat 7.1

[Lionel Lecoq]

I have read somewhere on this list that you should use X.4.2 for radeons that would 
mean that RH
7.3 would be the distro to use (do you have a line fast enough to download it?)
downloading and installing 4.2 would be also a possibility but if you are a newbie 
with little
time to spare...
Lionel
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>  > Could someone please help.
>  > > I have installed redhat 7.1 with the Radeon 7000, the install seen the 
> card
>  > > and monitor(mit 72) but the xserver will not start.
> 
> Thanks guy's
> 
> for your reply's, I think because my X server dosen't work is probably 
> because I just
> reinstalled redhat 7.1 and its not seeing the radeon 7000, because all my 
> drivers are of the old
> type(maybe). I think I'll try another distroany comments?
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Re: [Newbie]Using CTRL+ALT+F# and then back to X locks up

[Lionel Lecoq]

Just a remote possibiliy: I had something similar with another card and a beta of RH 
7.2. I only
solved it when I installed the 7.2 release. Do you have the final release or a beta 
version?
Lionel
--- jack craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> thelupine wrote:
> > 
> > I take it from the lack of responses, that no one else has come across
> > this, or doesn't have a fix for it just yet.  :-(
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Re: [Newbie]What to do when startx returns ...

[Lionel Lecoq]

I agree with the answer. what happens is that in your screen section you don't have a 
display
subsection which is usable.
 The cause can be in that section, for instance you specify default depth of 24 and 
you don't have
a corresponding display subsection.
More likely the problem lies with you device section and either an unrecognised or 
wrongly
recognised card. Check that and the log (/var/log/XFree86.0.log)
Lionel
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 5/22/2002 1:28:40 PM, "Radek S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >What to do when startx returns :
> >
> >Fatal error
> >no screens found
> >
> >??
> >
> >where in the XF86Config i should put something ???
> >
> >I know that this is a simple question but maybe I'm too stupid to find the
> >answer on my own ...
> >
> >Any help wanted
> 
> 
> Your XF86Config would help.
> 
> Joshua
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Re: [Newbie]Changing Monitors

[Lionel Lecoq]

Unplug it and plug the new one in...:^)


(if your set-up is similar to mine linux checks for new hardware at boot time)
If your new monitor has lower sync figures than the old one (should theoretically not 
be the case)
then hack your XF86Config before going into X (i.e. switch temporarily to a non 
interactive login
and start X with startx until everything is fine...)
Lionel 
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> I would like to change monitors for my box. How do I do
> this?
> 
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Re: [Newbie]I don't know how to ...

[Lionel Lecoq]

a possible example:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16   # your depth
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16  #same as default
Modes "1024x768" # the resolution you want to have
EndSubSection
EndSection

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Re: [Newbie]LAPTOP INSPIRON 2600

[Lionel Lecoq]

Have you tried adding
VideoRam8192
to your device section?
Lionel
--- Mike Newell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had the exact same problem and posted to the list with no response.  I
> ended up doing a lot of research and it actually has been touched on in
> the past.
> 
> The problem appears to be with the way Dell's BIOS works.  It allocates
> 1MB of memory to each of the i810 graphics controllers (there are two
> separate controllers - one for the laptop display and one for the monitor
> port).  Apparently there's memory to allow at least 8MB but there's no way
> to tell the BIOS to do this and the various XFree86 drivers don't (the
> Windoze drivers of course do).  So
> 
> You're left with only 1MB of memory for the video buffer, which only
> supports 640x480 resolution in high color.  I think you can get 1024x768
> in some low color mode but that's not useful.  Until the i810 driver guys
> figure out how to do this (or someone else hacks away until they do)
> you're stuck.  I've spent some time on it but haven't gotten far.  Clearly
> it's possible since Windoze does it, but...
> 
> BTW, notice I said there are two controllers in the Inspiron.  You can run
> them either in tandem or separately; under Windoze I run them as two
> separate displays (click on the second display in the properties window
> and check the "extend the destop to this device" box).  This allows you to
> "spread" your desktop over the display AND monitor, which turns out to be
> a Really Good Thing (tm).  X should be able to do it too.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]RH7.3 crashes with r128 driver (ATI xpert2000 32Mb)

[Lionel Lecoq]

The www.xfree86.org > Support, Documentation and Resources > video drivers > ATI
advises to use the "ati" driver for your card...
Possibly that would help...
Lionel
--- Geoff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am running Redhat 7.3 (kernel  2.4.18-3) and have an ATI xpert2000 32Mb 
> video card.  I have been experiencing complete system lockups (ctl-alt 
> backspace won't kill the x-server, ctl-alt-F2 won't get me into another tty, 
> ctl-alt del won't reboot the machine).  When I have it set at 24 bpp or at 16 
> bpp, and open up three applications (a java app, Galeon web-browser...print 
> tab, and Forte (an IDE for java)), then my system just locks up.  Maybe other 
> combinations will crash the system, but I know that this one does for sure.
> 
> 
> I checked the XFree86.0.log file after rebooting as single user and there 
> doesn't seem to be anything suspicious (am I looking hard enough?).  I have 
> played around with XF86Config-4 and have compared it with its counterpart in 
> Mandrake 8.1 which I have installed on another partition (and which seems to 
> work fine with 24 bpp).  
> 
> 
> Also, when I run Xconfigurator, I am able to make all of my selections but 
> when it tries to start the x-server, it just gives me a blank grey screen 
> with an X for my cursor.  How worried should I be about this?
> 
> 
> I am now at a loss as to what to do next.  Has anyone experienced similar 
> problems?  What can I do next to further diagnose this problem?  Should I 
> spend more time trying to get Xconfigurator working correctly or should I be 
> working directly with XF86Config-4 file?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is an excerpt from XF86Config-4:
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "ATI Rage 128"
> Driver "r128"
> BoardName "ATI Xpert2000"
> #Chipset "ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP)"
> Option "AGPMode" "1"
> Option "UseCCEFor2D" "false"
> Option "DPMS" "on"
># VideoRam 32768
> EndSection
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Re: [Newbie]Problem

[Lionel Lecoq]

If you have RH 7.2 why don't you install it. The whole installation is straight 
forward (I am
afraid there won't be much to learn unless you have the "luck" to have an unsupported 
card)
I assume you logged-off and logged back in and found the same problem? I also assume 
you don't
have an interactive loggin since X would actually already be running when you type 
startx...
Also you can run X on different consoles but must give it a chance by specifying 
startx -- :1
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--- Ahmad Umair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear professionals
> 
> I'm learning Red Hat Linux 7.1. At the moment I'm leaning "how to install 
> Windows X by using Xfree86 as well as X configurator" I've given all 
> informations correctely but when I run after installing with the command 
> "startx" it gives the following answer(when I configure through Xfree86):
> 
>   "Fatal server error:
>Server is already active for display 0
>If this sever is no no longer running, remove/tmp/.X0-lock
>  and start again"
> 
> Please help me and tell me how can I correct the error. I've tried 2-3 
> different techniques according to my mind but haven't found any solution 
> till yet.
> 
> Regards
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> 
> 
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Re: [Newbie]GeForce2 MX and 4.2.0 Install

[Lionel Lecoq]

>From what I saw in this list (I don't have a NVIDIA) you should get NVIDIA linux 
>drivers on their
site and install them (they are not open source)...
Lionel
--- Tom Coxen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Brand new to this!
> 
> I've installed the Dummies Red Hat 7.0 distribution
> and found that the included Xfree86 version does not
> support the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX and therefore cannot
> startx.
> 
> I have downloaded v4.2.0 via my windows partition to
> solve this but do not understand how to browse to a
> floppy or cd-rom to run the install from the command
> line on the linux partition.
> 
> Any help or suggestions greatfully recieved
> 
> Cheers
> Tom
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Re: [Newbie]XFree86

[Lionel Lecoq]

I though the SVGA server was a 3.3.6 server (4.x.x uses drivers) are you sure you are 
using an
XF86Config with the right format for 4.x.x? (the format is different from the 3.x.x 
format a way
to check is to see whether there is a section pointer (3.x.x format) rather than a 
section input
device (4.x.x format) for the mouse
Lionel


--- John Marmie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having problems with the XWindowing system randomly freezing on my 
> PC104 embedded system.
> 
> Using:
> Mandrake Linux 8.2.
> XFree86 4.2
> PC104 i586 cpu
> Chips & Technologies CT69030 graphics card w/ 4MB video ram.
> driver= "chips"
> Server= SVGA
> 
> XF86Config-4 file resembles...
> Section "Device"
>  Identifier "Chips & Technologies CT69030"
>  Driver "chips"
>  Option "Overlay"
>  Option "FPMode" "False"
> EndSection
> Section "Screen"
>  Identifier "Screen0"
>  Device "Chips & Technologies CT69030"
>  Monitor "Sony 200SF"
>  DefaultDepth24
>  Subsection "Display"
>  Depth   24
>  Modes   "1024x768"
>  EndSubsection
> EndSection
> * The system will work fine while using a Terminal...mouse movements in 
> X windows freezes the system at random.
> * I've tried KDE, GNOME, and ICE
> * I've tested different mouses...serial, PS/2...no difference.
> * I've tried REDHat Linux 7.3...no difference.
> * I'm am using straight linux binaries (not compiled on my system)
> * The system will not freeze if I use XFree86-3.3.6, but I have to use 
> an "unlisted" driver and the FBDev?? Xserver.  Because of this, the Chips 
> and Technologies card capabilities/resolutions can't be utilized (which I 
> need).  I also have windowing problems with my needed applications using 
> 3.3.6.
> * I've reinstalled and reinstalled and reinstalled Mandrake and Redhat...
> * I've tried just about every resolution combination.
> 
> 
> I've noticed from your site that other people have problems with freezes 
> also...but I haven't seen anything identical to my problem.  Any 
> suggestions please???
> 
> Thankyou.
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Re: [Newbie]help from downunder

[Lionel Lecoq]

Posting your XF86Config (in case you run 3.3.6) resp. XF86Config-4 (in case you are 
using 4.x.x)
might be useful
assuming you are running 4.x.x (find out by either typing X -version or looking at the 
top of your
log: /var/log/XFree86.0.log) then the mouse config is in the  corresponding "input 
device section"
you can also give a look at www.linux-laptop.net you might find the information for 
your machine
there...
Lionel

 
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> 
> Sir:  10.06.02
> 
> I'm running Red Hat 7.1 on a Toshiba laptop and I'm having trouble finding 
> all the config files to do with the mouse. Current error message is:
> 
> Oops (): invoked from gpm.c 984 /dev/mouse I/O error
> 
> Now, I've bought all the thick books and have searched exhaustively on the 
> net to find someone to help me, but I can't even get the mouse working in 
> the Xwindows and shell at the same time. The latest is I've somehow deleted 
> the /dev/mouse directory. I know of 2 config files, namely 
> /etc/sysconfig/mouse and /etc/X11/XF86config but the question is, are there 
> more? Is it preferable to do it by hand or use programs like gpm? I think 
> the trouble started when I ran gpm and selected the 'no mouse' option. 
> That's when the directory went. XF86 starts up but the mouse is frozen.
> 
> What I need is to know is how to get to all config file concerned with the 
> configuration of a certain thing. There could be up to 5 or 6 sometimes, 
> right? Hope you can send me some good links with easy to post on notice 
> boards, etc, because I'm drowning here.
> 
> Thanks,
> Weaver (from far north Queensland, Australia)
> 
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Re: [Newbie]'No screens found'

[Lionel Lecoq]

It usually means that in your screen section one of these problems occurs:
1. the device does not exist (is not recognised) then the problem is in the device 
section,
usually no appropriate driver has been found.
2. the monitor does not exist (is not recognised)
3. there is no display subsection corresponding to your default depth (with usable 
modes line)
you can get more info from /var/log/XFree86.0.log

Posting your XF86Config (resp. XF86Config-4), your log
and infos about your hardware (graphic card, monitor etc.) might help us help you...
Lionel

 
--- "votefreedom notashcroft or gates, for that matter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I type 'X' at the prompt to start X it comes back with an error that 
> says:
>   Fatal server error:
>  no screens found
> Can someone please tell me what this means because I have no clue?
> 
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Re: [Newbie]RAM flooded

[Lionel Lecoq]

Once again someone forgets the poor owners of (actually not that much) older 
mainboards which
cannot cache more than a (for today) modest amount of memory. Adding RAM to such 
systems slow them
down rather than speed them up...
Lionel
--- jack craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CRV§ADER/KY wrote:
> 
> > >16MB card, that's still not too bad.
> > >
> > But TOTAL RAM is still 128MB, and those 45MB are subtracted from it!
> 
> you are missing an important point i think.
> that is, you may have 128mb of physical ram, but linux is virtually
> paged memory. that is, the swap partition is used to swap in and
> out large processes sharing the physical memory between many large
> processes whose gross sum may be well above the physical memory.
> 
> naturally i should say that excessive swapping can be a performance 
> problem too, but a better solution is adding memory. i think most
> folks will agree that video oriented hosts should be RAM rich.
> 
> jackc...
> 
> 
>  is it a bug in top? How can I check the
> > REAL RAM locked by X11?
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Re: [Newbie]where's the site?

[Lionel Lecoq]

Also http://www.linux-laptop.net
Lionel
--- jack craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Weaver Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > can you reccommend a forum which I can easily browse questions and answers
> > regarding Red Hat config on a Toshiba 750 Tecra DVD laptop?
> 
> my suggestion is check RH's site for mailing lists and subscribe
> as appropriate. there may even be a list for installation or
> new users.
> 
> good luck, jackc...
> 
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Re: [Newbie]Change to TFT Monitor

[Lionel Lecoq]

If you have a graphic login, I would switch to a console login, save my XF86Config 
then shut down,
install the new monitor, login and run XFree86 -configure as root then move and rename 
the
XF86Config.new which was created to /etc/X11 where it belongs. If it does not give you 
what you
want I would use the old config to adapt the new one keeping only the monitor and 
screen sections
of the new one...
Lionel
--- skaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the basics are covered in the xfree docs, as far as i remember from when 
> i looked, but i'm too tired right now to tell the exact spot, 10:13 am, 
> almost time for bed.
> 
> Batara Kesuma wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am using a 15" CRT monitor now. I am running XFree86 version 4.2.0. I
> >want to change to TFT monitor, what steps should I take to change the
> >configuration, etc? I am afraid that if I just plug and play the new TFT
> >monitor with old XFree86 configuration, I could destroy my monitor. Please
> >help, and thank you very much.
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Re: [Newbie]Documentation to do with how XF86Config & XF86Config-4 files

[Lionel Lecoq]

I am afraid the XF86Config-4 files are only supplied by a couple of distributions (RH 
for
instance) because they provide BOTH 3.3.6 and 4.x.x. As a consequence it is not a 
standard and is
probably only documented (if at all) in those distributions.
As an aside, I am surprised to find out that The files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 are used:
on one of my PC I am running RH 7.1 with both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x (depending on the user 
id, with
3.3.6 I get acceleration not with 4.x.x -its an old PC) in my case, I doubt very much 
that
anything else than what is in /etc/X11 is used...
Anyhow, If you are using only one version why not copy the relevant file onto the 
other.
Lionel


--- Patrick Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Contrary to what people tell me, it seems to be certain that
> XF86Config files are still necessary since the XF86Config-4 is too
> sparse.  Is there documentation that covers how these files are
> linked?
> 
> I'm finding it confusing to work out why /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> links to /etc/X11/XF86Config, not /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when the new
> format is ostensibly taken care of in the -4 file.
> 
> Points to docs, please.  The HOW-TOs don't seem to cover it.
> 
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Re: [Newbie]I upgraded to 4.2.0 and my resolution still doesn't work...

[Lionel Lecoq]

You go into your /etc/X11/XF86Config (assuming mandrake does not use 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4
otherwise hack the latter)
There you will find a screen section which has a default depth line and a few display 
subsections
You can set the default depth to what you would wish to have (I suspect 24)
then you set the resolution in the display subsection with that depth for instance:
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" 
EndSubSection
Hope that helps
Lionel

 
--- Cynthia Grossen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I upgraded to 4.2.0 and my resolution still doesn't work, what do I do now?
> seriously though, I was told that for ATI radeon we needed to upgrade to
> 4.2.0 before anyone would even try to help.
> 
> the problem is that in mandrake control center (on mandrake 8.1) under the X
> server settings, it reports that my resolution is 1024x768 this is not the
> case however. my resolution is 800x600-ish. is this not the preferred way to
> change resolutions? it is the only option I've found so far for changing the
> resolution. is there a way to change resolution via the cmd line? those
> methods typically seem to work better IME.
> 
> any assistance would be appreciated,
>   cyndi
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Re: [Newbie]Documentation to do with how XF86Config & XF86Config-4 files

[Lionel Lecoq]

The reasonable way to find out which version of X you are running is to 
either do X -version
or look in the log (/var/log/XFree86.0.log)
Once you know what you are running, assuming you have both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x then you 
can switch
from the one to the other by changing /etc/X11/X according to the description of RH 
you mention,
i.e. if you run 3.3.6 and want to run 4.x.x then rename your /etc/X11/X in order to 
have a backup
and recreate an /etc/X11/X as a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86
Lionel
--- Patrick Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10-Jun-2002 at 11:52PM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
> 
> |> I am afraid the XF86Config-4 files are only supplied by a couple of
> |> distributions (RH for instance) because they provide BOTH 3.3.6 and
> |> 4.x.x. As a consequence it is not a standard and is probably only
> |> documented (if at all) in those distributions.  As an aside, I am
> |> surprised to find out that The files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 are
> |> used: on one of my PC I am running RH 7.1 with both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x
> |> (depending on the user id, with 3.3.6 I get acceleration not with
> |> 4.x.x -its an old PC) in my case, I doubt very much that anything
> |> else than what is in /etc/X11 is used...
> 
> Could it just be that it's detail not tidied up properly?
> 
> |> Anyhow, If you are using only one version why not copy the relevant
> |> file onto the other.
> 
> Basically because I don't know what I'm doing yet.  I was hoping to
> find documentation to rectify the matter.  I wanted to be able to
> change the vertical refresh rate (and by implication, the dot clock)
> and I wanted to find out the most koshur way of doing it.
> 
> The RedHat docs tell me:
> 
> 
> First, see which version of X you are running.  Type this command:
> ls -l /etc/X11/X
> 
> If it is linked to a file that has XF86 in the name (such as
> /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA) then you are using XFree86 3.3.x.  If the
> file that it is linked to is XFree86 then you are using XFree86 4.x.
> 
> If you are running 3.3.x, look at the file /etc/X11/XF86Config.  If
> your are running 4, then look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.. {That was
> to do with looking for color depth, but the same applies to modelines.]
> 
> 
> This gives contradictory information.  According to this, I'm running
> XFree86 4.x, but my system can't be using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> file because it doesn't cover the resolution I am using -- that
> information MUST be coming from the XF86Config file.  So, until I
> understand what is meant to be going on, I'm a bit reticent to be very
> adventurous.
> 
> best
> 
> P
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> --- Patrick Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |> > Contrary to what people tell me, it seems to be certain that
> |> > XF86Config files are still necessary since the XF86Config-4 is too
> |> > sparse.  Is there documentation that covers how these files are
> |> > linked?
> |> > 
> |> > I'm finding it confusing to work out why /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> |> > links to /etc/X11/XF86Config, not /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when the new
> |> > format is ostensibly taken care of in the -4 file.
> |> > 
> |> > Points to docs, please.  The HOW-TOs don't seem to cover it.
> |> > 
> |> > best
> |> > 
> |> > -- 
> |> > Patrick Connolly
> |> > HortResearch
> |> > Mt Albert
> |> > Auckland
> |> > New Zealand 
> |> > Ph: +64-9 815 4200 x 7188
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> |> > the beaches of the world ... Perhaps you`ve seen it.  ---Steven Wright 
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> |> > 
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