Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
Alle 17:11, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, Fabio Manunza ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 07:58, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: Dischetto montato su /mnt/floppy... e se io volessi fare in modo che si chiami semplicemente Floppy? tasto destro del mouse sull'icona -- rinomina (F2) Mi permetto di dissentire: queste icone vengono create automaticamente quando si utilizza mr. supermount; non è possibile rinominarle, nè Probabilmente hai ragione. Sarà che io ho disattivato il supermount da tempo immemorabile :-) ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] Non riesco a sentire l' audio
Alle 20:33, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, tom ha scritto: On Monday 13 October 2003 11:15, Sandro wrote: Sulla destra ti compaiono una serie di icone, scegli: HardDrake elenca il tuo hardware e ti aiuta a configurarlo. Nell'elenco si trova anche la scheda audio. se è una scheda isa,non te la fa configurare... che scheda è? #lspci -v -v Ma non ha parlato di scheda isa, dovrebbe dare, a questo punto, più info. Ciao Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux 2.40.21 on Pentium III 866 Mhz Linux User #203143 Linux Machine #103048
Re: [newbie-it] Non riesco a sentire l' audio
Alle 19:20, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, paolo brusasco ha scritto: enrico.alletto wrote: Ho installato Mandrake 9.1 (sono un nuovo utente linux) su un PC un po datato e su uno di qualche anno fa. Entrambi funzionano correttamente, ma quando per esempio lancio Xmms e voglio sentire un mp3 l'audio non esce, cioe' il display si muove come se tutto fosse ok, ma l'audio non si sente ed ho notato che nel pannello di controllo di mandrake con c'e' la possibilita' di configurare la scheda audio, come posso fare? Grazie hai il cavetto analogico dal cd alla scheda audio? Non credo sia essenziale per gli mp3. :-)) Sandro -- Dr. Sandro Porrazzini - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux 2.40.21 on Pentium III 866 Mhz Linux User #203143 Linux Machine #103048
[newbie-it] nfs root
Ciao a tutti. Qualcuno ha mai avuto a che fare con macchine linux diskless con boot via rete e filesystem via nfs? Io ci sto provando da un po' di tempo, ma non riesco a superare init. Cioe', riesco a scaricare il kernel, a farne il boot e a passare il controllo ad init (presente sul server via nfs). Il processo di init inizia le sue operazioni, ma mi da' subito errore di respawn e poi mi annuncia bellamente che non ci sono piu' cose da fare per quel runlevel (cosa assolutamente non vera)... Se qualcuno sa qualcosa di quello che sto parlando me lo dica, che sono quasi disperata... Grazie a tutti! Chiara
Re: R: [newbie-it] mandrake 9.2 pre order
il bonifico internazionale costa almeno una dozzina di euro. guarda se puoi pagare con un assegno circolare. costa molto meno Leggi qui: http://www.europa.eu.int/rapid/start/cgi/guesten.ksh?p_action.gettxt=gtdoc=IP/02/941|0|RAPIDlg=ITdisplay= Tra l'altro, c'è scritto che: «Prelievi di contante e pagamenti con carta In base al regolamento sui pagamenti transfrontalieri, dal 1° luglio 2002 le commissioni per i prelievi in euro dai sportelli automatici devono essere le stesse sia che il bancomat sia ubicato nel paese in cui il cliente detiene il conto bancario sia che sia ubicato altrove. (...) Sempre a partire dal 1° luglio 2002, le commissioni per l'uso di carte di credito e di pagamento (per i pagamenti in euro fino a 12.500) debbono essere le stesse sia che i pagamenti vengano fatti nel paese in cui è emessa la carta sia che vengano fatti in un altro Stato membro. Di conseguenza sarà meno caro acquistare beni e servizi durante un viaggio in altri Stati membri. Sarà inoltre meno costoso acquistare beni e servizi da altri Stati membri via Internet, telefono o posta. (...) Bonifici transfrontalieri Tra un anno circa (1° luglio 2003) lo stesso principio di parità delle spese per le transazioni nazionali e transfrontaliere in euro (fino a 12.500) si applicherà ai bonifici tra conti bancari.» Quindi non si tratta di bonifico internazionale (MandrakeSoft è a Parigi, in una traversa di Rue de Montmartre). Chiedi in banca, ma sicuramente i costi non sono di 12 (e se lo sono, protesta pure: le norme europee sono state emanate per regolamento, quindi sono già vigenti!). Ciao... Daniele
R: R: [newbie-it] mandrake 9.2 pre order
-Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: martedì 14 ottobre 2003 11.08 A: newbie-it Oggetto: Re: R: [newbie-it] mandrake 9.2 pre order il bonifico internazionale costa almeno una dozzina di euro. guarda se puoi pagare con un assegno circolare. costa molto meno Leggi qui: http://www.europa.eu.int/rapid/start/cgi/guesten.ksh?p_action.gettxt=gtdoc= IP/02/941|0|RAPIDlg=ITdisplay= Tra l'altro, c'è scritto che: «Prelievi di contante e pagamenti con carta In base al regolamento sui pagamenti transfrontalieri, dal 1° luglio 2002 le commissioni per i prelievi in euro dai sportelli automatici devono essere le stesse sia che il bancomat sia ubicato nel paese in cui il cliente detiene il conto bancario sia che sia ubicato altrove. (...) Sempre a partire dal 1° luglio 2002, le commissioni per l'uso di carte di credito e di pagamento (per i pagamenti in euro fino a 12.500) debbono essere le stesse sia che i pagamenti vengano fatti nel paese in cui è emessa la carta sia che vengano fatti in un altro Stato membro. Di conseguenza sarà meno caro acquistare beni e servizi durante un viaggio in altri Stati membri. Sarà inoltre meno costoso acquistare beni e servizi da altri Stati membri via Internet, telefono o posta. (...) Bonifici transfrontalieri Tra un anno circa (1° luglio 2003) lo stesso principio di parità delle spese per le transazioni nazionali e transfrontaliere in euro (fino a 12.500) si applicherà ai bonifici tra conti bancari.» Quindi non si tratta di bonifico internazionale (MandrakeSoft è a Parigi, in una traversa di Rue de Montmartre). Chiedi in banca, ma sicuramente i costi non sono di 12 (e se lo sono, protesta pure: le norme europee sono state emanate per regolamento, quindi sono già vigenti!). Ciao... Daniele Vedasi per maggiore informazione LETTERE AL DIRETTORE del Corriere della Sera di oggi : dal Belgio all'Italia, ad esempio, il bonifico è gratuito, ma la Banca Italiana ha applicato una commissione di, mi pare, la bellezza di 10 euro o forse più ( l'ho letto stamattina presto ma ora non ho sottomano il Corriere).. Non tutti i ladri sono in prigione ! Della serie S.L.V.L.V. ( Se La Va La Va ) --- La posta in uscita è certificata senza virus.Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 09/10/2003
[newbie-it] collegare nokia 5510
Salve a tutti, posseggo un nokia 5510 e vorrei collegarlo al PC con linux, ho letto che con una distro recente non dovrebbe essere più necessario creare un unusual_device apposito, quindi passo a installare nokryptia, il software free per il collegamento al telefono: ./configure ad un certo punto mi dice che mancano le librerie id3lib, -quindi installo le suddette librerie, -va tutto bene, non leggo messaggi d'errore, - riavvio la macchina - rilancio ./configure per iniziare l'installazione di nokryptia - risultato: continuo ad avere lo stesso warning sulla mancanza delle suddette librerie che succede? grazie Alfredo
[newbie-it] Download Manager
Salve di nuovo a tutti. Sapete se esiste un qualche download manager per Mandrake che mi dia la possibilità di fare il resume dei download nel caso in cui cada la linea? Ebbene si, ho un misero 56k e qualche volta succede che mi cada la linea... Stavo scaricando prima il Netscape, e a dieci minuti dalla fine mi è caduta la linea... e così lo sto riscaricando daccapo... :'( -- // ( o o ) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-- Nevermind, un newbie di Linux con tanta voglia di imparare!
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
Alle 13:48, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, Nevermind ha scritto: Salve di nuovo a tutti. Sapete se esiste un qualche download manager per Mandrake Usa wget da linea di comando...preleva file dagli url che iniziano con http o con ftp. Se cade la linea, ridigiti wget -c indirizzo da scaricare e riprende da dove eri rimasto. man wget per ulteriori info
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 13:48, Nevermind wrote: Salve di nuovo a tutti. Sapete se esiste un qualche download manager per Mandrake che mi dia la possibilità di fare il resume dei download nel caso in cui cada la linea? Ebbene si, ho un misero 56k e qualche volta succede che mi cada la linea... Stavo scaricando prima il Netscape, e a dieci minuti dalla fine mi è caduta la linea... e così lo sto riscaricando daccapo... :'( Da linea di comando c'e' wget, che funziona benissimo: wget -c url L'opzione -c e' appunto quella che fa il resume in caso cada la connessione (basta che lanci ancora il comando wget -c url nella stessa dir dove c'e' l'altro pezzo di download, e lui continua da dove era arrivato). Se invece preferisci qualcosa in modalita' grafica, una volta avevo provato un downloader che funzionava benissimo. Mi pare si chiamasse downloader for x o qualcosa del genere... Prova a cercarlo in rete. Credo comunque che anche quello si basasse su wget... Ciao ciao! Chiara P.S.: A proposito di Nescape, hai mai provato MozillaFirebird? Lo trovi sul sito di Mozilla, e funziona che e' una meraviglia. Inoltre puoi installargli un sacco di utility aggiuntive! Cosi', tanto per dare un consiglio spassionato... =)
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
Alle 13:58, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, Eraser Head ha scritto: Da linea di comando c'e' wget, che funziona benissimo: wget -c url P.S.: A proposito di Nescape, hai mai provato MozillaFirebird? Lo trovi sul Ora provo il wget con mozilla Firebird :P Grazie Chiara! -- // ( o o ) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-- Nevermind, un newbie di Linux con tanta voglia di imparare!
Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 01:12, Nevermind wrote: /dev/hdd: Input/output error mount: impossibile determinare il tipo di filesystem, e non è stato specificato nessuno /dev/hdd è quello che lui mi usa per identificare il lettore di DVD nel mounting. devi specificargli il dispositivo esatto dovredde essere /dev/scd0 punto di mount /mnt/cdrom -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ Corollario alla seconda legge di Chisholm: 1. Quando non puo' andar peggio di cosi', lo fara'. Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] Finalmente sono riuscito ad iscrivermi! Domanda su masterizzazione
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 02:06, Corrado wrote: Il lun, 2003-10-13 alle 23:00, Moreno T ha scritto: Scusate, ma è normale che dopo aver abilitato l'emulazione scsi per il cdrom, non riesca più a sentire i cd audio con xmms? (ho il cdrom con il cavetto collegato all scheda audio, c'entra qualcosa?) Non senti solo i cd audio o non riesci ad accedere al dispositivo? Per esempio, col file manager riesci a leggere i file contenuti in un cd inserito in quel dipositivo? hai controllato dove va a cercare il cd?? tieni presente che ora il dispositivo emulato ha cambiato nome -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ counter hack web site: www.counterhack.net Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
[newbie-it] about mozilla firebird
ho provato mozilla firebird 1.6.1... è veramente velocissimo... ma... se voglio aprire due finestre di mozilla non lo posso fare, cioè... lancio la prima ed è ok. poi quando lancio la seconda mi compare il profile manager: se scelgo il profilo che sto usando con la prima finestra mi dice che il profilo è in uso e quindi non se ne fa niente... quindi devo crearmi un nuovo profilo... ma allora se devo aprire 20 finestre di mozilla devo creare 20 profili diversi? l'unica cosa è andare su file-nuovo-finestra di navigator... ed è tutto ok continuo a fare così o c'è qualcuno che sa consigliarmi qualcosa per aprire tanti mozillini semplicemente con un click sul pannello? grazie gianluca
Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
Alle 14:15, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, tom ha scritto: devi specificargli il dispositivo esatto dovredde essere /dev/scd0 punto di mount /mnt/cdrom Allora, se io in drakeconf vado a vedere come è montato il DVD mi dice: Punto di mount: /mnt/cdrom Dispositivo: scd1 Tipo: auto Opzioni: user,noauto,ro,exec Ora gli ho indicato nell'icona: dispositivo: /dev/scd1 Punto di montaggio: /mnt/cdrom Me lo legge, ma non mi permette più di fare l'eject del disco, e se provo a smontarlo mi dice che è montato diverse volte... Riposto anche il mio fstab per chiarezza: /dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrecorder auto user,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom auto user,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 -- // ( o o ) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-- Nevermind, un newbie di Linux con tanta voglia di imparare!
[newbie-it] about gdm
ho dei problemi con il display manager di gnome: gdm. quando uso gdm ed entro con gnome, a volte succede che se provo a riavviare o a spegnere il computer, il controllo ritorna sulla finestra di login di gdm. poi quando clicco su sistema-shutdown o reboot, una volta iniziata la procedura di spegnimento, scrive: Arresto dm..[FALLITO] invece con kdm è tutto ok, solo che kdm è brutto ed è terribilmente lento... che posso fare pr usare al meglio gdm? grazie gianluca
Re: [newbie-it] about mozilla firebird
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:18:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ho provato mozilla firebird 1.6.1... veramente velocissimo... ma... se voglio aprire due finestre di mozilla non lo posso fare, cio... lancio la prima ed ok. poi quando lancio la seconda mi compare il profile manager: se scelgo il profilo che sto usando con la prima finestra mi dice che il profilo in uso e quindi non se ne fa niente... quindi devo crearmi un nuovo profilo... ma allora se devo aprire 20 finestre di mozilla devo creare 20 profili diversi? l'unica cosa andare su file-nuovo-finestra di navigator... ed tutto ok continuo a fare cos o c' qualcuno che sa consigliarmi qualcosa per aprire tanti mozillini semplicemente con un click sul pannello? grazie gianluca Non ti conviene aprire pi pagine nella stessa finestra? La finestra resta una ma puoi aprire quante pagine (tab) vuoi. -- Artasersec La volpe conosce molti trucchi; l'istrice uno solo, ma buono. (Archiloco)
[newbie-it] kernel
sapete se esiste qualche tool che esamina l'hardware e genera automaticamente il file .config da usare per ricompilare il kernel? scusate se sono sfaticato :)) grazie gianluca
[newbie-it] avvio kde 3.1
Ciao a tutti ho notato che all'avvio di Kde 3.1 si ferma molto su inizializzazione periferiche. sinceramente non capisco perchè. qualcuno può darmi qualche risposta. ho visto poi che è uscita la release 3.1.4 qualcuno l'ha provata? magari è un pò più veloce ciao scido
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
grande domanda... :-| --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sapete se esiste qualche tool che esamina l'hardware e genera automaticamente il file .config da usare per ricompilare il kernel? scusate se sono sfaticato :)) grazie gianluca __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 14:22, Nevermind wrote: Allora, se io in drakeconf vado a vedere come è montato il DVD mi dice: Punto di mount: /mnt/cdrom Dispositivo: scd1 ok,è sul secondo canale ide e non nel promo come supponevo :) Ora gli ho indicato nell'icona: dispositivo: /dev/scd1 Punto di montaggio: /mnt/cdrom Me lo legge, ma non mi permette più di fare l'eject del disco, e se provo a smontarlo mi dice che è montato diverse volte... non so che gli abbia preso. prova a chiudere prima il file menager (konqueror suppongo) e poi a smopntarlo e ejctarlose tentavi di ejectare con konqueror aperto,non è la prima volta che sento di questi inconvenienti... -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ 17 verticale: Stende il bucato... overdose Slack 9.0 , cercando il tempo per upgradare a la 9.1 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] about gdm
A me ne da degli altri tipo quando faccio il reboot non mi da l'elenco dei sistemi ecc... ed è per questo che lo sostituito con kdm. On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:23:12 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ho dei problemi con il display manager di gnome: gdm. quando uso gdm ed entro con gnome, a volte succede che se provo a riavviare o a spegnere il computer, il controllo ritorna sulla finestra di login di gdm. poi quando clicco su sistema-shutdown o reboot, una volta iniziata la procedura di spegnimento, scrive: Arresto dm..[FALLITO] invece con kdm è tutto ok, solo che kdm è brutto ed è terribilmente lento... che posso fare pr usare al meglio gdm? grazie gianluca
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
Alle 14:08, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, Nevermind ha scritto: Alle 13:58, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, Eraser Head ha scritto: Da linea di comando c'e' wget, che funziona benissimo: wget -c url P.S.: A proposito di Nescape, hai mai provato MozillaFirebird? Lo trovi sul Ora provo il wget con mozilla Firebird :P Grazie Chiara! il migliore mai provato è downloader 4X cercalo su google trovi anche gli rpm il sito è crasu ... qualcosa... ottimo grafico ..drag n drop cattura i link dai browsers resume .. ti consiglio quello ciao Francesco
Re:R: R: [newbie-it] mandrake 9.2 pre order
Vedasi per maggiore informazione LETTERE AL DIRETTORE del Corriere della Sera di oggi : dal Belgio all'Italia, ad esempio, il bonifico è gratuito, ma la Banca Italiana ha applicato una commissione di, mi pare, la bellezza di 10 euro o forse più ( l'ho letto stamattina presto ma ora non ho sottomano il Corriere).. Non tutti i ladri sono in prigione ! Della serie S.L.V.L.V. ( Se La Va La Va ) Il fatto che qualcuno faccia una cosa è concetto diverso dal fatto che quel qualcuno avesse diritto a farla. Ovvero: l'informazione (a volte) riduce le orme di piedi altrui sulla propria testa... ;) (cercherò, appena ho tempo, di andarmi a leggere direttamente il Regolamento UE) Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 20:55, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, Moreno T ha scritto: Ho un lettore cdrom, un lettore dvd e un masterizzatore. All'inizio tutte e tre le periferiche venivano montate come CDROM montato su /mnt/cdromX, il che mi creava un certa confusione. Ho notato però che modificando /etc/fstab in modo che il masterizzatore sia montato su /mnt/cdwriter (e solo così!) sul desktop compare l'icona del masterizzatore (disco dorato) e la scritta Masterizzatore montato su /mnt/cdwriter. Qualsiasi altro punto di montaggio crea un'icona del tipo Disco rigido montato su... ...se ne impara sempre una nuova... - -- - - -- Fabio Manunza -- ## n° macchina 140545 ## Fair is foul, and foul is fair - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/i9uVVF8uFQvRMPQRArEhAKCbcqOM0f8DkfgTWH3u6Pn+2M89fACeI50y SkpwBsqcyCs98uputj8BvwE= =NJc0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] Oggetto: Installazione Linux 'Mandrake 9.1'
sono un 'newbie' quindi non meravigliatevi delle mie richieste ho avuto un nuovo PC che consiste in un 'Athlon xp' da 2400 Mhz funzionante a 2000 Mhz un hard disk di 80 Giga Maxtor 6Y080L0 da 512 Mega di memoria DRam undrive CD R-W un DVD uno scanner una stampante una cam Radeon 9600SE (scheda grafica) un TFT (video) da 17 pollici scheda di rete SIS900 based PCI fast ethernet UDMA 133 vengo al dunque: quando installo Mandrake 9.1 da 'CD' l'installazione rileva il disco in maniera corretta ma in sede di rilevamento sicronismo su..hda: mi appare la dicitura
Re: [newbie-it] about mozilla firebird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 14 October 2003 14:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ho provato mozilla firebird 1.6.1... è veramente velocissimo... ma... se voglio aprire due finestre di mozilla non lo posso fare, cioè... lancio la prima ed è ok. poi quando lancio la seconda mi compare il profile manager: se scelgo il profilo che sto usando con la prima finestra mi dice che il profilo è in uso e quindi non se ne fa niente... E'' normale che sia cosi'. Cliccando due volte sull'icona non lanci un'altra finestra, lanci un altro Mozilla, e alla fine e' anche comodo poter lanciare due profili diversi contemporaneamente. Fanno cosi' moltissimi programmi in fondo. Per avere piu' finestre puoi usare il ctrl+N, anche se anch'io uso i tab, e in quel caso hai il pulsante sulla barra per aprirne di nuovi. Credo comunque che a seconda delle impostazioni, Mozilla apra una nuova finestra o un nuovo tab per il link su cui si clicca col tasto centrale. bye - -- Devil Inside Experiment - C'era un bambino che odiava la polizia http://www.acidlife.com/mayhem/freefred/ Davide Banda Partial Arts [2000] - http://www.marcob.org/go.asp?~freefred/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jEZkJoljSvtxdFkRAotHAJ9Lg3afHeEpQPx1JLo5ZXnlbWU5rACfcnNj WDCRc/8PCOZc5h1wX1mi/YQ= =Qtha -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
ho provato il downloader dx della mandrake 9.1 power ma non funziona sul mio sistema. ho installato quello di 8.2 che si chiamava nt versione nt-130-1mdk e funziona anche sotto 9.1 francesco.melo wrote:
[newbie-it] versioni concorrenti di perl/pyton
Ciao. Nel tentativo di installare versioni aggiornate di alcuni programmi (tipo gimp o dia) mi sono trovato di fronte un problema nuovo. Alcuni hanno bisogno di versioni più nuove (rispetto a quelle installate) di librerie o interi linguaggi di scripting come perl o python. E' possibile lasciare anche le versioni vecchie (altrimenti qualche programma non funziona più)? Ad esempio per mettere gimp 1.2.5 devo avere perl 5.8.1 ma adesso ho la versione 5.8.0. Come mi regolo? Cosa mi consigliate per non fare casini? Grazie a tutti. Ant -- La lucertola e' il riassunto del coccodrillo. -- Da it.hobby.umorismo
Re: [newbie-it] Download Manager
Il mar, 2003-10-14 alle 13:48, Nevermind ha scritto: Salve di nuovo a tutti. Sapete se esiste un qualche download manager per Mandrake che mi dia la possibilità di fare il resume dei download nel caso in cui cada la linea? Downloader for X 8noto prima come nt ora come D4X) è il migliore; ha anche possibilità come limitare la banda relativa al download se nel frattempo vuoi anche, per esempio, navigare... Lo trovi su rpmfind (scegli la versione per il tuo sistema) o naturalmente tramite MandrakeUpdate. L'ultima stabile è la 2.4 Ebbene si, ho un misero 56k Come l'80% della popolazione internettiana italica :) -- Corrado
Re: [newbie-it] Oggetto: Installazione Linux 'Mandrake 9.1'
Alle 20:51, lunedì 13 ottobre 2003, Claudio Callocchia ha scritto: sono un 'newbie' quindi non meravigliatevi delle mie richieste ho avuto un nuovo PC che consiste in un 'Athlon xp' da 2400 Mhz funzionante a 2000 Mhz un hard disk di 80 Giga Maxtor 6Y080L0 da 512 Mega di memoria DRam un drive CD R-W un DVD uno scanner una stampante una cam Radeon 9600SE (scheda grafica) un TFT (video) da 17 pollici scheda di rete SIS900 based PCI fast ethernet UDMA 133 vengo al dunque: quando installo Mandrake 9.1 da 'CD' l'installazione rileva il disco in maniera corretta ma in sede di rilevamento sicronismo su..hda: mi appare la dicitura Che dicitura?Non si capisce! NIC -- ...siate sempre capaci di sentire nel+profondo qualsiasi ingiustizia commessa contro chiunque,in qualsiasi parte del mondo.è la qualità+bella di un rivoluzionario che
Re: [newbie-it] nfs root
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 10:37, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, Eraser Head ha scritto a MLdrake in merito a [newbie-it] nfs root : Ciao a tutti. Qualcuno ha mai avuto a che fare con macchine linux diskless con boot via rete e filesystem via nfs? Io ci sto provando da un po' di tempo, ma non riesco a superare init. Cioe', riesco a scaricare il kernel, a farne il boot e a passare il controllo ad init (presente sul server via nfs). Il processo di init inizia le sue operazioni, ma mi da' subito errore di respawn e poi mi annuncia bellamente che non ci sono piu' cose da fare per quel runlevel (cosa assolutamente non vera)... Se qualcuno sa qualcosa di quello che sto parlando me lo dica, che sono quasi disperata... hai generato il root filesystem sul server ? girano correttamente nts e tftp? il kernel dei client l'hai fatto con mknbi ? il floppy di boot? le variabili sono tante... trovi molta documentazione su http://www.etherboot.org/ Grazie a tutti! Chiara - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22 @ ASUS S1N 1330c +- R.U.#219755 -+- S.R.U.#705 -+- R.M.#110932 -+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jG0lF/9fksDJ4y0RAnl9AKCPMcjXLzIS2xRMKeqZQv5K87TEQQCdG2ff Rk7hadCBhnN8DH2L+tYTx1U= =OFNA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] Primi passi in MySQL
finalmente sono riuscito ad installare MySQL! Partiamo subito, digito da shell mysql e riesco a connettermi come anonymous perchè il server mysql è in localhost. Ho provato a digitare i primi comandi seguendo la guida mysql tipo SELECT VERSION(), CURRENT_DATE; Ora però non riesco a creare una tabella... sicuramente mi stò perdendo in un bicchiere d'acqua e la stanchezza mi sta giocando brutti scherzi. Io digito... mysql CREATE DATABASE prova; ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'prova' ?!?! Come accesso negato? Non posso creare un nuova BD di nome prova? uhmm.. Help... thanx byebye by Davide PS: Sono riuscito a creare un BD chiamato prova ma solo da root! Da root sono riuscito anche ad inserire i record... ma da user?? Se provo a connettermi al DB prova creato ovviamente mi dice che non ho i permessi. Dove li salva i DB? Ma soprattutto perchè da user non riesco a creare un database? Sorry per le mille domande... ma alla fin fine si riducono a due. Grazie ancora! ciaociao -- \\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@] -o00-(..)-00o by Dave,Adde,Kudega,Kua,Zarax,Pichan... - Se esiste un problema esiste anche la sua soluzione, se invece la soluzione non c'è... allora nemmeno il problema sussiste!!! =
Re: [newbie-it] Icone sul desktop
Alle 15:20, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, tom ha scritto: non so che gli abbia preso. prova a chiudere prima il file menager (konqueror suppongo) e poi a smopntarlo e ejctarlose tentavi di ejectare con konqueror aperto,non è la prima volta che sento di questi inconvenienti... Ora funziona alla grande... forse dovevo semplicemente riavviare il sistema... boh... -- // ( o o ) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-- Nevermind, un newbie di Linux con tanta voglia di imparare!
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 14:25, martedì 14 ottobre 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto a newbie-it in merito a [newbie-it] kernel : sapete se esiste qualche tool che esamina l'hardware e genera automaticamente il file .config da usare per ricompilare il kernel? /dev/brain ;P grazie gianluca - -- bye miKe Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22 @ ASUS S1N 1330c +- R.U.#219755 -+- S.R.U.#705 -+- R.M.#110932 -+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jIM8F/9fksDJ4y0RAkXgAKCOJAMXch+iGrM4DZJLMtN3xrrVoQCglsAj 76SIEqxUxgB7Aaq7tBEoan0= =R/CP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] kernel
Il mer, 2003-10-15 alle 01:14, miKe ha scritto: /dev/brain Io per comodità a volte uso il link simbolico /dev/comodino dove oltre al cervello lascio anche molte altre cose... :-D -- Corrado
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:21 am, Eric Huff wrote: I'm wondering too : why all the hassle ? - Linux is safe in itself. You have your own /home/anarky directory, and you are the only one with permission to go there (aside from root, who will be yourself, right ?). On the other hand, if you mean you'll leave your PC open while doing something else and prevent others to snoop around, why not just put your sensitive stuff in /root/sensitive or something like that. Then only root (you) has access. I have wanted the same thing because i am a little paranoid: what if my computer gets stolen? Then anyone who wants to be will be root... Yes, but there is no such thing as 100% security. But I doubt the ordinary burglar has access to a linux boot disk - and the skill to use it. My guess is, that he uses another popular OS, uncapable to read a linux file system. To him, there's nothing than gibberish on the disk. If you are paranoid, keep sensitive material outside a PC, locked down in a safe in a locked and guarded room. Booby-trap it and hope for the best. Regards Kaj haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good news .. and a question
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyhow, a couple of issues I'm having. First and foremost the user account I'm running under is having some permission issues. For one, the FAT32 partitions I created (/mp3s) gives me access denied errors every time I drag and drop mp3 tracks from a CD-R onto the directory in the file browser. I tried to chmod the directory and chown the directory all to no avail. For a normal user (ie. not root user) to access a FAT32 partition, you'll need to mount the partn with the following options: user,umask=0 and do not store any sensitive data on that partn as it will then be read-write accessible by all users. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT]The mad Russian's new response...
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 03:29, ed tharp wrote: I will write him right now and let him know it has not stopped. You mean we should redirect the sms@ messages to all those 4 I count 5 @ Yahh, it was 2.30 AM for me...got tired:) boxes till they clog up, or just 1? good luck, HarM I would never suggest anything like that but if you do,,, say please in each letterG For the time being I'm redirecting to info@, still contemplating your list i.e. 1 or all. Too bad I can't put please in a redirected message, èhh? Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:32:02 +0200 H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 October 2003 23:02, Heather/Femme wrote: Harm: someone would need to run an IRC server to do that OR you might pick an irc server that exists already...and just create a room for ppl like us to hang out in. Very simple... hell i can do the room...anywhere. I hang out on a specific IRC server can make a room called Manadrake i fppl are interested. Won't bothe rMe. Femme -- well someone named - fransje_2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was in my irc channel. did not ID when i asked so i kicked them. if it was anyone on this list, sorry...but next time msg me (do a whois to find out which person i am in the ops list) and tell me who you are. it is a pvt channel i don't like ppl i don't know in it for personal reasons. didn't know if i shoul dpost this to this thread... but didn't know where else ot put it. For the time being the channel is on invite only mode. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 01:21, Eric Huff wrote: I'm wondering too : why all the hassle ? - Linux is safe in itself. You have your own /home/anarky directory, and you are the only one with permission to go there (aside from root, who will be yourself, right ?). On the other hand, if you mean you'll leave your PC open while doing something else and prevent others to snoop around, why not just put your sensitive stuff in /root/sensitive or something like that. Then only root (you) has access. I have wanted the same thing because i am a little paranoid: what if my computer gets stolen? Then anyone who wants to be will be root... it is possible, but not trivial, to use have your /home/anarky folder mounted as an encrypted file system, and long-in using pam. that way even if they steal your laptop, the files are safe. of course, if They realy want your files, they could install a custom login mangler that keeps (or sends) your login password and return the computer to you, then the next time you login, they would have the password, then they could ssh, or steal the computer. but it would be pretty safe from your local police (or wife) seeing your a,,, pictures. -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 04:05, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05:21 am, Eric Huff wrote: I'm wondering too : why all the hassle ? - Linux is safe in itself. You have your own /home/anarky directory, and you are the only one with permission to go there (aside from root, who will be yourself, right ?). On the other hand, if you mean you'll leave your PC open while doing something else and prevent others to snoop around, why not just put your sensitive stuff in /root/sensitive or something like that. Then only root (you) has access. I have wanted the same thing because i am a little paranoid: what if my computer gets stolen? Then anyone who wants to be will be root... Yes, but there is no such thing as 100% security. But I doubt the ordinary burglar has access to a linux boot disk - and the skill to use it. My guess is, that he uses another popular OS, uncapable to read a linux file system. To him, there's nothing than gibberish on the disk. If you are paranoid, keep sensitive material outside a PC, locked down in a safe in a locked and guarded room. Booby-trap it and hope for the best. Regards Kaj haulrich. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6381 -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Urgent help !!!!Installation of mandrake in compaq server
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 02:01, John Wilson wrote: On October 13, 2003 08:59 pm, Rohit_Sundriyal wrote: Dear Group Is anybudy having experince in installing mandrake on compaq server .please provide me setp by setp installation notes if anybudy has done this befor on compaq servers. First hint is not to send HTML mail cause a lot of people on the list filter it out. :-) That said, they'll see you now and someone will answer :-) ttfn NEED more info... what model, cpu, mem, drives (raid?) controllers, etc. that question was like anyone ever drive a Oldsmobile? how do you do that? John __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gaim-0.71
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 10:09, Heather/Femme wrote: well someone named - fransje_2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was in my irc channel. did not ID when i asked so i kicked them. Attaway. Wasn't me! Not my kind of thing, I'm into Linux;) I'm on the #mandrake channel at freenode as..HarM. Good luck, HarM if it was anyone on this list, sorry...but next time msg me (do a whois to find out which person i am in the ops list) and tell me who you are. it is a pvt channel i don't like ppl i don't know in it for personal reasons. didn't know if i shoul dpost this to this thread... but didn't know where else ot put it. For the time being the channel is on invite only mode. Femme -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] (2nd post)exporting directories via Samba or NFS?
On Monday 13 Oct 2003 10:24 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 13 October 2003 05:14 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: I could tell you how to get NFS working, but I would have to stretch my memory to do it and NFS sucks so bad I will tell you a better way. Derek, I know you have a lot more exp. at this stuff than I do, but why don't you like NFS? I'm using it here on my 3 comp LAN and its rock solid and fast. I understand that there are some issues if you need a very secure setup, but for a simple at home LAN like mine, I don't understand why it wouldn't be a recommended option. Thanks. IMO NFS sucks for a number of reasons such as. 1/ Newbies have trouble setting it up. I have lost count of the number of times I have gone over it on this list (try searching the archives for 'NFS jennings') Since Mandrake 9.0 Mandrake Control Centre has had a nice GUI for setting up NFS clients. But there is still no GUI for setting up the server. 2/ It is chronically insecure. It depends on the host believing a client when they identify who they are (there is no password exchange). NFS should therefore never be used on any Lan segment attached to the internet. By contrast kio_fish is as secure as your ssh server. I have posted often on how to use privacy keys with ssh that makes it very secure indeed and suitable for using over the internet. 3/ The user account management sucks. You either need an Ldap server to manage users, (something I have no experience with), or else you must ensure that the usernames and User/Group ID numbers (UID/GID) on the different machines are identical. If not then the permissions on the files shared with NFS is all screwed up. 4/ NFS has a habit of hanging the system. If you switch off one machine without unmounting the NFS shares, then the other machine will hang when it is shut down. In Mandrake 8.1 it would hang forever. From Mandrake 8.2 onwards it hangs for 5 minutes. (Forever in many peoples mind) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good news .. and a question
I can understand why Aaron would want this. If he has other users on his computer then they would also have access to that wallpaper if it was placed in /usr/share/wallpapers. I ran into the same problem when I started but ended up just creating a folder for them in my home directory as you suggested. Russ John Wilson wrote: As a second example, I downloaded a really nice wallpaper and when attempting to copy the wallpaper to the /usr/share/wallpapers directory I get another access denied message. As someone else has pointed out it's bad form to mess around with permissions outside your home directory. Thankfully you can don't need to. You can set up a directory right in your home directory for wallpapers. In KDE and, I assume, GNOME you don't need to stay /usr/share/wallpapers to get your picture loaded. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Procmail mangling my email headers, rendering Netscape Mail/Kmail useless.
Kaminsky Moshe wrote: AFAIK, Netscape (and maybe also Kmail) do not work with procmail. Netscape is not, strictly speaking, a MUA, but a whole mail system in one program: It delivers the mail to the local machine, and does all the redistribution and filtering by itself (I think), basically performing the roles of fetchmail, sendmail, procmail and a MUA. If you want to work the traditional unix way (which IMO is better), you need to use a decent MUA, such as mutt. (Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and there is some setting that allows netscape mail to function as a MUA, but you probably have to set this in one of the endless menus) On a typical server setup, procmail kicks in before Netscape/Mozilla/whatever downloads your mail, so you can run both. I set procmail to send notorious known spam to /dev/null and let Mozilla handle the more subtle stuff. Mozilla's heuristics are pretty good - the disadvantage is that it has to download the mail before it can decide it's spam. Sir Robin -- I declare this sentence a performative! Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good news .. and a question
On Monday 13 Oct 2003 11:54 pm, Russ wrote: John Wilson wrote: As a second example, I downloaded a really nice wallpaper and when attempting to copy the wallpaper to the /usr/share/wallpapers directory I get another access denied message. As someone else has pointed out it's bad form to mess around with permissions outside your home directory. Thankfully you can don't need to. You can set up a directory right in your home directory for wallpapers. In KDE and, I assume, GNOME you don't need to stay /usr/share/wallpapers to get your picture loaded. I can understand why Aaron would want this. If he has other users on his computer then they would also have access to that wallpaper if it was placed in /usr/share/wallpapers. I ran into the same problem when I started but ended up just creating a folder for them in my home directory as you suggested. Russ If Aaron were to change the permissions on /usr/share/wallpapers to allow him to keep his new wallpaper there, then he would find that the msec(Mandrake Secure) security system would only go and change them back again one hour later. Then he would be posting here asking why he cannot change permissions. The easiest solution is to not mess with permissions, and to either open a 'Super User' instance of konqueror to write the file to /usr/share/wallpapers (KMenuApplicationsFileToolsFileManager(SuperUserMode) ), or else keep his downloaded wallpapers in a directory in his /home. Using a directory in /home has the advantage that when he comes to upgrade his system, his downloaded wallpapers will not be lost. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
hello... What URPMI do i need to get my MCC programs back? I can't get to run RPM's via GUI. Any advise would help! YPK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 13:26, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: hello... What URPMI do i need to get my MCC programs back? I can't get to run RPM's via GUI. Any advise would help! YPK It will not run from CML either? you know: as root mcc in an xterm. Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
I get Command not found, I know I did a texstar upgrade and it aborted in the middle i m left with half working programs YPK On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 07:29, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 13:26, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: hello... What URPMI do i need to get my MCC programs back? I can't get to run RPM's via GUI. Any advise would help! YPK It will not run from CML either? you know: as root mcc in an xterm. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 13:48, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: I get Command not found, I know I did a texstar upgrade and it aborted in the middle i m left with half working programs Gahh, sounds bad:( Easiest way out: shove in your install cd's and choose the upgrade option. Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lightwave 3D / 3d artwork / Blender
--- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robin wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look at it , and frankly , to a complete beginner it seemed a bit too much to understand. They assume you already know a lot of the terms, but if you are like me you have never ever seen a 3d modeling programme before, and while I dare say I will get used to it all in time, so far I haven't succeded in so doing. Back on the subject of Wings 3D, I found a site that provides a urpmi source of wings 3D rpms! Here it is: http://rpm.nyvalls.se/graphics9.0.html Just add his source, and urpmi wings =) I must say, however, that I am skeptical of adding a urpmi source that is not necessarily trusted. Couldn't he add malicious code to the packages? Or is this site known enough to have a decent reputation? Am I just being paranoid here? What do you guys think? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
If I choose this method, do i have to install the whole packages over again? like Opera, Vmware etc.. YPK On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 08:00, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 13:48, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: I get Command not found, I know I did a texstar upgrade and it aborted in the middle i m left with half working programs Gahh, sounds bad:( Easiest way out: shove in your install cd's and choose the upgrade option. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:26:27 -0400 Yoel P. Krigsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: hello... What URPMI do i need to get my MCC programs back? I can't get to run RPM's via GUI. Any advise would help! what about running drakconf from the command line? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ It is through symbols that man consciously or unconsciously lives, works and has his being. -- Thomas Carlyle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
Drats: it says, Command not found.. YPK On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 08:03, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:26:27 -0400 Yoel P. Krigsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: hello... What URPMI do i need to get my MCC programs back? I can't get to run RPM's via GUI. Any advise would help! what about running drakconf from the command line? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:06:35 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If you thikn it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki! The only problem with that is Newsforge could at some point move or *re*move the article, then you have a dead link mon. Better to do a rewrite, in your own words, not just copy and paste G. It's public domain info anyway, right? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Fain would I climb, yet fear I to fall. -- Sir Walter Raleigh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blender - ing
--- Anarky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look ... and there is a long list on the elysiun forums in the tutorials sticky topic in blender general category, I think ... and anyway, in case you're interested, here are some bookmarks of mine: What do you and others suggest for Wings 3D tutorials? Just the ones that are on the Wings homepage? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 14:02, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: If I choose this method, do i have to install the whole packages over again? like Opera, Vmware etc.. No -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blender - ing
Tango Echo wrote: --- Anarky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: I installed blender on M9.0 and took a close look ... and there is a long list on the elysiun forums in the tutorials sticky topic in blender general category, I think ... and anyway, in case you're interested, here are some bookmarks of mine: What do you and others suggest for Wings 3D tutorials? Just the ones that are on the Wings homepage? Yes, I guess so. Don't know of such a big user comunity there yet. I did one from there too :) ... or ... no ... I think I found this guys site with Wings3d links. Google around ... but yes .. I guess the tuts there are best. Also .. if you wanna be left staring with awe ... search for videos of Martin Krol working in Mirai (I think wings3d has this program as one of it's inspirations :) ). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good news .. and a question
Thank you all for replying and suggesting changes to my line of thinking. That is exactly what I was looking for since at this point it's hard to trust anything I think up on my own. I've taken everyone's advice (which thinking about it now, makes perfect sense) and have created a directory inside my /home/user directory to hold my backgrounds. Works a peach. I'm still unclear, on how to handle the /mp3s directory/partition. I don't mind storing all the mp3s under /home if that is the best thing to do permissions wise/global wise, but at this point, I wouldn't know how to move that directory and it's mount point to /home. If someone could be a little more detailed, that would help a lot. Thanks, again. Not sure what I'd do without this list. | aaron west | www.trajiklyhip.com On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 06:20, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 13 Oct 2003 11:54 pm, Russ wrote: John Wilson wrote: As a second example, I downloaded a really nice wallpaper and when attempting to copy the wallpaper to the /usr/share/wallpapers directory I get another access denied message. As someone else has pointed out it's bad form to mess around with permissions outside your home directory. Thankfully you can don't need to. You can set up a directory right in your home directory for wallpapers. In KDE and, I assume, GNOME you don't need to stay /usr/share/wallpapers to get your picture loaded. I can understand why Aaron would want this. If he has other users on his computer then they would also have access to that wallpaper if it was placed in /usr/share/wallpapers. I ran into the same problem when I started but ended up just creating a folder for them in my home directory as you suggested. Russ If Aaron were to change the permissions on /usr/share/wallpapers to allow him to keep his new wallpaper there, then he would find that the msec(Mandrake Secure) security system would only go and change them back again one hour later. Then he would be posting here asking why he cannot change permissions. The easiest solution is to not mess with permissions, and to either open a 'Super User' instance of konqueror to write the file to /usr/share/wallpapers (KMenuApplicationsFileToolsFileManager(SuperUserMode) ), or else keep his downloaded wallpapers in a directory in his /home. Using a directory in /home has the advantage that when he comes to upgrade his system, his downloaded wallpapers will not be lost. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems
I checked out the article, and I can definitely add to the newbie perspective and say that it would have been a lot of help had I read it before installation. I've cleared up a lot of file system questions I had just by reading that article. -A On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 00:06, Eric Huff wrote: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/07/196222mode=threadtid=23 Excellent article! Do you think a link should be put on Twiki for it? If you thikn it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki! I would suggest going to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration and adding the link. Or, add a page if you have more you want to add. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC is missing from my Menus
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 08:02 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: If I choose this method, do i have to install the whole packages over again? like Opera, Vmware etc.. Probably not, it doesn't overwrite the directories, IIRC, it just updates the packages that are there. However, you may not get a working system since newer packages won't be overwritten and I don't think that Texstar stuff will coexist with the regular Mandrake stuff, at least not all of it. You can always download the Texstar rpm's manually and run RPM to install them to try to get your system working again. Funny, this is the first time I have heard of packages getting removed by installing updates, normally, if the package install doesn't work, you still have the original files there. You might want do an ls in /usr/bin/ to see if the mcc application is there but just renamed to something like mcc.rpmold. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] (2nd post)exporting directories via Samba or NFS?
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:14, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 13 Oct 2003 6:10 pm, Thinker wrote: Could someone please point me in the right direction on how to accomplish this? As I said, I finally got my old hard drive with mandrake 9.0 in a new machine and back on the network. Now, I need to take most of the files in my home directory (including /evolution ) and move them to my Win2k Machine for archiving and to my SuSE 8.2 Machine for use. Someone on the SuSE list suggested that I start NFS on the Mandrake box and export the directory to the SuSE box. Then start Samba on the Mandrake box and export the same directory to the Windows machine. I am not too familiar with NFS and exporting directories. How does this work? Thanks in advance, -=Thinker I could tell you how to get NFS working, but I would have to stretch my memory to do it and NFS sucks so bad I will tell you a better way. On your Suse machine install and start ssh server. OK. Got that. Then on your Mandrake machine open a konqueror window and enter in the url line fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I did this and got an error on the mandrake box. Protocol not supported fish I am using Mandrake 9.0 / KDE (konqueror 3.0.5a I went to the mandrake control center and looked for kio-fish or fish to install but I did not find anything. I googled and found your info on your site, but I was not able to access the server you linked to, and the other links from google had similar results. How do I go about getting kio-fish for my mandrake box? You will then see the file system of the Suse machine displayed in konqueror, and you can just frag and drop files into it.. You could probably do it from Suse to Mandrake too. I just do not know if Suse include the kio_fish plugin for konqueror. I tried this (going from SuSE to Mandrake)and did not get the same error. could not connect to localhost My SuSE box is more up to date than my Mandrake box (I have KDE 3.1.4 on it, thanks to apt). What should I do on my Mandrake box to allow me to get to it from my SuSE box? kio_fish is a plugin for konqueror whuch uses sftp (secure ftp) to transfer files between the machines. You can use it on any computer Linux/Unix or Windows which has an ssh server running. HTH derek BTW: Please delete the Reply To in your Evolution config. It is not necessary and a pain when replying to your posts. What exactly do you mean here? Take out my reply-to address? Why would I do that? I thought you were supposed to do that in Evolution when you are using it to manage multiple accounts. Thanks for your help, -=Thinker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux complient notebooks
I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] (2nd post)exporting directories via Samba or NFS?
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 2:13 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 17:14, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 13 Oct 2003 6:10 pm, Thinker wrote: Could someone please point me in the right direction on how to accomplish this? As I said, I finally got my old hard drive with mandrake 9.0 in a new machine and back on the network. Now, I need to take most of the files in my home directory (including /evolution ) and move them to my Win2k Machine for archiving and to my SuSE 8.2 Machine for use. Someone on the SuSE list suggested that I start NFS on the Mandrake box and export the directory to the SuSE box. Then start Samba on the Mandrake box and export the same directory to the Windows machine. I am not too familiar with NFS and exporting directories. How does this work? Thanks in advance, -=Thinker I could tell you how to get NFS working, but I would have to stretch my memory to do it and NFS sucks so bad I will tell you a better way. On your Suse machine install and start ssh server. OK. Got that. Then on your Mandrake machine open a konqueror window and enter in the url line fish://[EMAIL PROTECTED] I did this and got an error on the mandrake box. Protocol not supported fish I am using Mandrake 9.0 / KDE (konqueror 3.0.5a I went to the mandrake control center and looked for kio-fish or fish to install but I did not find anything. I googled and found your info on your site, but I was not able to access the server you linked to, and the other links from google had similar results. How do I go about getting kio-fish for my mandrake box? You will then see the file system of the Suse machine displayed in konqueror, and you can just frag and drop files into it.. You could probably do it from Suse to Mandrake too. I just do not know if Suse include the kio_fish plugin for konqueror. I tried this (going from SuSE to Mandrake)and did not get the same error. could not connect to localhost My SuSE box is more up to date than my Mandrake box (I have KDE 3.1.4 on it, thanks to apt). What should I do on my Mandrake box to allow me to get to it from my SuSE box? kio_fish is a plugin for konqueror whuch uses sftp (secure ftp) to transfer files between the machines. You can use it on any computer Linux/Unix or Windows which has an ssh server running. HTH derek BTW: Please delete the Reply To in your Evolution config. It is not necessary and a pain when replying to your posts. What exactly do you mean here? Take out my reply-to address? Why would I do that? I thought you were supposed to do that in Evolution when you are using it to manage multiple accounts. Thanks for your help, -=Thinker As I recall in 9.0 kio_fish is in contrib and a lot of the mirrors no longer have 9.0/contrib so it might be a bit difficult to find the RPM. In 9.1 kio_fish is installed as standard, and according to rpmfind.net there is an RPM for Suse called kio_fish so it might be easier to do it with the ssh server on Mandrake. You could always use gftp instead of kio_fish. Just start gftp and log onto the ssh server. Just remember to select the drop down box on the right as ssh. Not as pretty as konqueror, but it will get the job done. As for the Reply To in your posts. :- Normally when people reply to an email the reply will go to the same address the mail came from. But if you fill that in the Reply To field then when people reply to your mails they will always go to that address. This is not usually an issue since normally the addresses are the same. But when you post to a mailing list the From address is that of the mail server. In this case [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I reply to a post I want the reply to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only trouble is your Reply To overrides it, and I have to re-address the post to make sure it goes to the correct destination. Of course that is less trouble than writing this paragraph explaining why Reply To is a pain ;-) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XWC - Undelete?
On Tuesday October 14 2003 10:39 am, Jason Greenwood wrote: Anyone know how to undelete in XWC? I accidentally deleted some files I'd dearly like to have back =( Cheers All, Jason File manager you use isn't the question, what file system you use is. Anyhow, undelete is not doable, and/or you won't be too happy with the results anyhow. If the files you accidently deleted belong to a package, just use 'rpm -Uvh --force package.rpm' (same version/patch level as already installed) to replace the missing files. See 'man rpm' to see just what --force does. This is just about the only proper use of --force. If it was your data or config files, restore from the backups you regularly make ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 is out!
9.2 is out for club members Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems
Excellent article! Do you think a link should be put on Twiki for it? If you think it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki! I would suggest going to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration and adding the link. Or, add a page if you have more you want to add. Gonna make me do it, eh? :-) Sorry, just trying to get people used to the idea :) Regarding links being broken, Maybe we should just print it to pdf and include the file on the twiki, giving proper credit and reason for pdf'ing it? If that's what people want, i'll be happy to do it. (it'll be my 1st time attaching a file in wiki...) Or, i guess we could save the html? What are the legal issues with this sort of thing? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
I have wanted the same thing because i am a little paranoid: what if my computer gets stolen? Then anyone who wants to be will be root... Yes, but there is no such thing as 100% security. But I doubt the ordinary burglar has access to a linux boot disk - and the skill to use it. My guess is, that he uses another popular OS, uncapable to read a linux file system. To him, there's nothing than gibberish on the disk. If you are paranoid, keep sensitive material outside a PC, locked down in a safe in a locked and guarded room. Booby-trap it and hope for the best. Regards Kaj haulrich. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6381 Cool. Thanks for the link. I am also about to build a new computer desk here, and was planning on making the computer fastened heavily to the table (is enclosed except for ventilation). At least this way a burgler would have to work hard to get it, which they're not likely to do... Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux complient notebooks
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I would like to get opinions from those possesing linux compatible notebooks without any driver problem. Further I would like to ask those possessing intel centrino based notebooks their usability in linux for wireless connection. Mine will be general purpose using productivity apps and also video and audio playing from cds and dvds in addition to internet oriented jobs. I have just just gotten a Dell Inspiron 5150, 3.06gig Mobile Pention 4. 512MB DDR. Geforce FX5200 go. 60 gig HDD. TM1300 b/g wireless. I have not loaded linux on it yet, was waiting for Mandrake 9.2 however I did start the machine with knoppix and it all seemed to work fine. Didn't try the wireless but some searching on the net shows it is possible to work, but you have to compile a module to do it. (no biggie). When mdk9.2 comes out, I will be documenting all the steps I took to get it working and link it on the Twiki. hope that helps. regards Franki Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 17:11, Eric Huff wrote: I am also about to build a new computer desk here, and was planning on making the computer fastened heavily to the table (is enclosed except for ventilation). At least this way a burgler would have to work hard to get it, which they're not likely to do... Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me. eric How about spraying the keyboard and mouse with some kind of killer spray you yourself are immune to? Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter
Anyone know how to print to pdf (from all programs, well specifically mozilla) w/o using kprinter? kprinter (which is also where qtcups links to) is s slow to start up... I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf. Hmmm i wonder if i could get a bash script to do it... thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sensitive materials
Just because i am paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me. How about spraying the keyboard and mouse with some kind of killer spray you yourself are immune to? Hmmm..., that might work... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT: Mad Russians (sms) and list issues
Return-path: sms @ kaluga.mts.ru Hi folks. I was going to wait until the owner or request email was getting forwarded properly, but since this came up: There were no owners for newbie, so Charles put me on the owner list so that someone (besides him) could deal with list issues. There is someone sub'd as [EMAIL PROTECTED] which looks like it might be the cel phone number. (actual numbers witheld to protect the guilty) I sent a message to that address, and if i don't here back, i'll unsub it. I just got this in response to the mail: Short Message delivery answer: Message for +### with identification ### has been delivered on 2003-10-14 at 08:57:41. Well, i'd say that's a cel phone Anyway, if anyone has trouble subing or unsubing, i can help with that now. (unfortunately, i have no power over the sympa issues...) eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 4:24 pm, Eric Huff wrote: Anyone know how to print to pdf (from all programs, well specifically mozilla) w/o using kprinter? kprinter (which is also where qtcups links to) is s slow to start up... I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf. Hmmm i wonder if i could get a bash script to do it... thanks, eric Of course. That is all kprinter does. Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters Right click on the pdf pseudo printerselect configure click on the spanner icon next to PostScript to pdf converter click on Edit command and you will see it just calls up the command gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=%filteroutput -sPAPERSIZE=%psl %filterargs -c .setpdfwrite -f %filterinput derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: 9.2 is out for club members Good luck, HarM Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone else? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printing to pdf w/o using kprinter
I know i can print to ps, then ps2pdf. Hmmm i wonder if i could get a bash script to do it... Of course. That is all kprinter does. Open KDE ControlCentrePeripheralsPrinters Right click on the pdf pseudo printerselect configure click on the spanner icon next to PostScript to pdf converter click on Edit command and you will see it just calls up the command gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=%filteroutput -sPAPERSIZE=%psl %filterargs -c .setpdfwrite -f %filterinput That rocks! I should poke around kcontrol some more and see what else is in there... Thanks Derek, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Adding files to CD-RW with k3b
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 13, 2003 08:25 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I have burned some data (.mp3 files) on a CD-RW using k3b. It only used about half of the disk. Now I want to add some additional files to it (new session?) but can't seem to find a way to take more files and add to the existing CD-RW disk. Am I missing something. Should I have saved the first burn as a session? Thanks. Yes. Yes. Yes. g You'll probably have to copy the files off the CD-RW and then blank the disk, then in the new project select multi seesion in order to do what you want. Multi session is slightly wasteful (about 10 MB waste per session IIRC) but less so than not using the space available. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:05:40 up 23 days, 23:28, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.21, 0.27 If it smells it's chemistry, if it crawls it's biology, if it doesn't work it's physics. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jB+nG11CaRuZZSIRArV+AKCqN+0R1UJOSEuX8qqUCAdQ/PcWlwCcDVvm uGNctv0oNkj3rx2UX6oI7Ck= =jAIL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems
I think that article would serve well to be in Twiki. Just be sure to get the author's permission before pushing it to a PDF. I would recommend putting it up in it's original form if the author will allow it. Rewritting it will surely take away from it's original clarity and easy read. Just my thoughts. -A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Huff Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems Excellent article! Do you think a link should be put on Twiki for it? If you think it's a good article, then sure, put it on the wiki! I would suggest going to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/InstallationAndSystemConfiguration and adding the link. Or, add a page if you have more you want to add. Gonna make me do it, eh? :-) Sorry, just trying to get people used to the idea :) Regarding links being broken, Maybe we should just print it to pdf and include the file on the twiki, giving proper credit and reason for pdf'ing it? If that's what people want, i'll be happy to do it. (it'll be my 1st time attaching a file in wiki...) Or, i guess we could save the html? What are the legal issues with this sort of thing? eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Spamassassin Configuration
Erylon Hines wrote: Anyone have some tips on this? http://www.softwaredesign.co.uk/Information.SpamFilters.html I followed it, rpm:ed spammassassin and running it as a daemon, Quick to set up, and runs well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bnl]# rpm -qa | grep -i spam spamassassin-tools-2.55-2mdk perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-2mdk spamassassin-2.55-2mdk /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XWC - Undelete?
On Tuesday October 14 2003 08:59 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday October 14 2003 10:39 am, Jason Greenwood wrote: Anyone know how to undelete in XWC? I accidentally deleted some files I'd dearly like to have back =( Cheers All, Jason File manager you use isn't the question, what file system you use is. Anyhow, undelete is not doable, and/or you won't be too happy with the results anyhow. If the files you accidently deleted belong to a package, just use 'rpm -Uvh --force package.rpm' (same version/patch level as already installed) to replace the missing files. See 'man rpm' to see just what --force does. This is just about the only proper use of --force. If it was your data or config files, restore from the backups you regularly make ;) Just an addition. There's a pertinent article to the subject today at http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/10/08/1416248.shtml?tid=23 It's mostly about recovering file systems, but deals with undeleting also. If you read the whole article, I believe you'll see why I wrote 'undelete is not doable, and/or '. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
Tom Brinkman wrote: I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru torrent and not iso's by ftp. Torrent sux! As does any p2p scheme for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be max'd out. And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers). I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my company's T1. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP: ftp.phys.ttu.edu -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out! On Tuesday October 14 2003 11:49 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: Ditto on that Error 404!!! I am wondering if 9.2RC2 is the same as 9.2 If you're using RC2, you can just add cooker sources for RPMS and RPM2 from a cooker mirror and update to tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Torrent) for i586 A lot less frustrating than bittorrent, and less mb's to d/l too. Current cooker on the mirrors is 9.2, plus a few updates. 9.1 users can also use cooker to update to 9.2, just 'urpmi urpmi' first, then get the rest. Don't be put off by the total number of mb's urpmi displays. That's installed space, not actual d/l. As a rule of thumb, the amount you'll be d/l'g is about 40% of the installed space. Since you're upgrading (ie, replacing packages) there'll be little to no additional disk space needed. The challenge will be finding a good mirror. (hint: European mirrors are better) http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru torrent and not iso's by ftp. Torrent sux! As does any p2p scheme for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be max'd out. And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers). If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this, I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Mad Russians (sms) and list issues
There is someone sub'd as [EMAIL PROTECTED] which looks like it might be the cel phone number. (actual numbers witheld to protect the guilty) I deleted that address. I guess this email will be my first test to see if that was the culprit... (ie, will i get an sms response? :) eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] P.S. Good Luck Ya'll
Mandrake Linux 9.2 for i586 and higher Mandrake 9.2 Packs CDs are available for order at Mandrakestore.com. Austria ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/Mandrake-linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Graz) Czech Republic ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Prague) Denmark ftp://ftp.darenet.dk/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Aalborg) Estonia ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/ Finland ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Espoo) France ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Lyon) ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Nancy) ftp://ftp.u-strasbg.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Strasbourg) ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Toulouse) Germany ftp://ftp.fh-giessen.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Giessen) ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Goettingen) ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Munchen) ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Chemnitz) ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (bayreuth) ftp://ftp.uni-kassel.de/pub/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Kassel) Netherlands ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ Norway ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Oslo) Poland ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Gdansk) Spain ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/Linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Sevilla) Sweden ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Dalarma) ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/ United Kingdom ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake /9.2/i586/ (Canterbury) United States ftp://ftp.cs.ucr.edu/pub/mirrors/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (California) ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Utah) ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Indiana) ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Texas) ftp://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Missouri) ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Indiana) ftp://mandrake.mirrors.pair.com/mandrake/9.2/i586/ (Pennsylvania) ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/ Last modified: Tue Oct 14 18:29:02 2003 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP: ftp.phys.ttu.edu whack That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve less bandwidth than what you're doing. Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably just as fast. BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual release when it's available on the mirrors. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 12:56:53 up 24 days, 2:19, 1 user, load average: 0.52, 0.28, 0.26 Academy: A modern school where football is taught. Institute: An archaic school where football is not taught. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jElVG11CaRuZZSIRApm5AJwMiVfK6W0FJlmskWaKW0bt7bnh+QCdGE/o ML8Dsbovo6DCAhJK2c4kSWo= =Pn9A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP: ftp.phys.ttu.edu whack That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve less bandwidth than what you're doing. You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for [urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake. Am I right? Thorsten Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:07, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP: ftp.phys.ttu.edu whack That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve less bandwidth than what you're doing. Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably just as fast. BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual release when it's available on the mirrors. Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of 9.2 thanks! YPK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 01:26 pm, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of 9.2 thanks! YPK See the Community Wiki. I believe it's been added there, http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome if not it's still on Greg's page at: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html It won't do you any good until the ISOs are available on the mirrors that are set for rsync though. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 13:37:17 up 24 days, 2:59, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.09 It's raisins that make Post Raisin Bran so raisiny ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jFGzG11CaRuZZSIRAlVQAJ0Tnwe8GUxXjHEu3oFyIv8bDWTWOgCfQW09 NwiS0PqD5sOaB1yUmN5hBq8= =up7B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] And the beat goes on...
Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-) http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: Ditto on that Error 404!!! On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 12:47, Poogle wrote: On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 H:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: 9.2 is out for club members Good luck, HarM Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone else? Likewise - error 404 For me clicking on the torrent in the browser starts btdownloadergui which promptly gives me an error message: GOT BAD FILE_INFO or similar A clue anyone? Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] And the beat goes on...
Ronald J. Hall wrote: Poor, poor, Microsloth... ;-) http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-10-14-019-26-NW-MS-PB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com As a friend told me..governments not using microsoft products doesn't mean anything. It is big corporations not using them that would kill them. This is probably true in my book. Walt running Mandrake Linux 9.2 and loving it... between George Bush, Microsoft and Wal-Mart, we are all going to get F***ed... -- me Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 21:26, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote: Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of 9.2 thanks! YPK http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html tells all:) Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote: If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this, I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Yep, I'm waiting for that. I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:( Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 01:22 pm, Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner wrote: Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP: ftp.phys.ttu.edu whack That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve less bandwidth than what you're doing. You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for [urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake. Am I right? Thorsten You should be able to, with some restrictions; you need a fast enough connection to make it worthwhile, you need to change the Path to hdlist/synthesis to reflect the new tree you're pulling from. If you have the space on your system I'd recommend that you ftp the 9.2 tree (all of it including contrib) from any mirror you can find it on to a local directory and make a boot floppy or CD using the hd.img from /Mandrake/base. You can quite likely do a hard drive upgrade install that way. But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 13:42:53 up 24 days, 3:05, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.09, 0.08 If someone says he will do something without fail, he won't. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jFwMG11CaRuZZSIRAhueAKCan0tQ3WUMnXM6YUtPm78gi3fBOwCdFUYl oaLSQfQAhM/BV8a1tP95emA= =bVZU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
Charlie wrote: [...] But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway. Thank you in advance. Thorsten Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 14, 2003 02:17 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote: If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this, I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Yep, I'm waiting for that. I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:( Good luck, HarM I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site. I suppose I'll have to order the box set from the store since the retail channels here in Canada (this part of it anyway) suck vacuum through a thousand mile long leaky straw. Who the devil has time for the club? C. - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 14:29:00 up 24 days, 3:51, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.13 Sometimes I live in the country, And sometimes I live in town. And sometimes I have a great notion, To jump in the river and drown. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/jF1BG11CaRuZZSIRAj9kAJ9kbCsV/iR9mWnTis9y/XYsGePSiwCfVmZ3 2DT+y9zsVUsiEUgyyoFxwm0= =IKcw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:32, Charlie M. wrote: I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site. I've still got 700 and so much days to go before my membership expiresI'm not sure 'cause I can't login, club is saturated. That's about another 2 years i.e. upto Mdk-11.2 ;) I'll just pre-order a boxed set at Mdk store anyway. I'm doing this to support (I run cooker) so who cares if it takes a week or so longer. I collect linux distro CD's, the more obscure (or older) the better:) Soplease don't feel inhibited (anyone) to offer:D Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good Article on Linux Filesystems
On October 14, 2003 09:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that article would serve well to be in Twiki. Just be sure to get the author's permission before pushing it to a PDF. I would recommend putting it up in it's original form if the author will allow it. Rewritting it will surely take away from it's original clarity and easy read. Just my thoughts. -A Eric is right about potential legal issues with respect to this article though one is left to wonder about the notion of fair use. It would certainly not be my intention to change a dot of the article as that would create major problems with both the the publisher and the author. I think it's called plagarism. :-) Nor was it ever my intent to republish the article on a PDF. Personally I find PDF files to be an enormous pain in the butt and really have never seen the point in them. Also, PDF is proprietory and I'm not comfortable using a proprietory format on Twiki. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
