RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
Here is the sample script I am trying to execute: #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; This is what I get running it from shell: [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ ls -lh total 48k -rw-r--r--1 apache apache268 Oct 17 15:09 printenv -rwxr--r--1 root root 788 Mar 28 22:16 script.cgi* -rw-r--r--1 apache apache757 Oct 17 15:09 test-cgi -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 216 Mar 28 14:34 test.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 eric eric 20k Mar 27 23:48 wwwboard.pl* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 102 Mar 31 02:08 x2.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 92 Mar 29 00:19 x.cgi* [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ perl x.cgi Content-type: text/html [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ When trying to run it from the browser this is how I call it: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/x.cgi This is the result in the browser: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.22 Server at Mithrilhall.LinuxServer Port 80 This is the error I got in the error log: [Mon Apr 1 23:39:40 2002] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec of /var/www/cgi-bin/x.cgi failed [Mon Apr 1 23:39:40 2002] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of script headers: /var/www/cgi-bin/x.cgi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gerald Waugh Sent: March 31, 2002 4:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question On Sunday 31 March 2002 02:02 am, Mithrilhall2000 wrote: Here ya go: [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ ls -lh total 52k -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 359 Mar 28 13:12 hello.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 359 Mar 28 13:13 hello.pl* -rw-r--r--1 apache apache268 Oct 17 15:09 printenv -rwxr--r--1 root root 788 Mar 28 22:16 script.cgi* -rw-r--r--1 apache apache757 Oct 17 15:09 test-cgi -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 216 Mar 28 14:34 test.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 eric eric 20k Mar 27 23:48 wwwboard.pl* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 92 Mar 29 00:19 x.cgi* [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ looks like +x is turned on. You have to watch ownership to get the cgi Also what does /var/log/httpd/error_log read, after you run the script. Make sure that #!/usr/bin/perl Is the very first line in the script (must be at the top of the page) The '*' in this line must be the very first character in the file -- Gerald Waugh : Registered Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 7:10am up 9 days, 15:35, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.02, 1.07 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
Here ya go: [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ ls -lh total 52k -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 359 Mar 28 13:12 hello.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 359 Mar 28 13:13 hello.pl* -rw-r--r--1 apache apache268 Oct 17 15:09 printenv -rwxr--r--1 root root 788 Mar 28 22:16 script.cgi* -rw-r--r--1 apache apache757 Oct 17 15:09 test-cgi -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 216 Mar 28 14:34 test.cgi* -rwxr-xr-x1 eric eric 20k Mar 27 23:48 wwwboard.pl* -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 92 Mar 29 00:19 x.cgi* [eric@Mithrilhall cgi-bin]$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald Waugh Sent: March 28, 2002 9:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question On Friday 29 March 2002 03:18 am, Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I tried it and it works fine from the shell but not from a browser. post anls -lon the script. I want to see the ownergroup and permissions -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 12:43am up 7 days, 9:08, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.07, 1.01 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
I tried your script and it ran fine from shell but it didn't run at all when trying to run it from my browser. This is how I called it in the browser: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/x2.cgi This is the result from calling it in a browser: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.22 Server at Mithrilhall.LinuxServer Port 80 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: March 28, 2002 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question try it this way...since you've specified to the browser that you're sending HTML then you've got to give it what it's waiting for. html paste below this line = #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; print EOF; html headtitleA test script/title/head body centerBRBRBRBRBR font size=+6bHello, world!/b /font /center /body /html EOF ; exit; = end of script daRcmaTTeR Here it is: #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; print Hello, world!\n; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: March 28, 2002 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question It looks like the script runs fine from the command line, but isn't browser friendly. What does your test script look like? Miark Mithrilhall2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Here's the error message: [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec of /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of script headers: /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: March 28, 2002 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question What does your log report in the error file as the cause of the problem? daRcmaTTeR I changed Apache to run on listen on port 8000 and was wondering if this would have any connection to my problem of not being able to run cgi or perl scripts from my browser? Such as: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/test.cgi If I run the cgi or perl scripts from shell they work fine but I can't get them to work when calling them from my browser. * * Mithrilhall Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
How do you turn CGI on in Apache? Is there a setting in the conf file that I need to change? Thanks for the help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerald Waugh Sent: March 28, 2002 9:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question On Friday 29 March 2002 01:44 am, Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I changed Apache to run on listen on port 8000 and was wondering if this would have any connection to my problem of not being able to run cgi or perl scripts from my browser? Such as: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/test.cgi If I run the cgi or perl scripts from shell they work fine but I can't get them to work when calling them from my browser. did you turn cgi on in apache? -- Gerald Waugh Linux user # 255245 http://www.frontstreetnetworks.com New Haven, CT, United States of America 12:22am up 7 days, 8:47, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 1.07, 1.02 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
Here it is: #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; print Hello, world!\n; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: March 28, 2002 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question It looks like the script runs fine from the command line, but isn't browser friendly. What does your test script look like? Miark Mithrilhall2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Here's the error message: [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec of /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of script headers: /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: March 28, 2002 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question What does your log report in the error file as the cause of the problem? daRcmaTTeR I changed Apache to run on listen on port 8000 and was wondering if this would have any connection to my problem of not being able to run cgi or perl scripts from my browser? Such as: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/test.cgi If I run the cgi or perl scripts from shell they work fine but I can't get them to work when calling them from my browser. * * Mithrilhall Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CGI/Perl question
I tried it and it works fine from the shell but not from a browser. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: March 28, 2002 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question try it this way...since you've specified to the browser that you're sending HTML then you've got to give it what it's waiting for. html paste below this line = #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; print EOF; html headtitleA test script/title/head body centerBRBRBRBRBR font size=+6bHello, world!/b /font /center /body /html EOF ; exit; = end of script daRcmaTTeR Here it is: #!/usr/bin/perl # hello.pl -- my first perl script! print Content-type: text/html\n\n; print Hello, world!\n; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: March 28, 2002 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question It looks like the script runs fine from the command line, but isn't browser friendly. What does your test script look like? Miark Mithrilhall2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Here's the error message: [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] (2)No such file or directory: exec of /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi failed [Thu Mar 28 22:09:29 2002] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of script headers: /var/www/cgi-bin/test.cgi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of daRcmaTTeR Sent: March 28, 2002 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CGI/Perl question What does your log report in the error file as the cause of the problem? daRcmaTTeR I changed Apache to run on listen on port 8000 and was wondering if this would have any connection to my problem of not being able to run cgi or perl scripts from my browser? Such as: http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net/cgi-bin/test.cgi If I run the cgi or perl scripts from shell they work fine but I can't get them to work when calling them from my browser. * * Mithrilhall Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cgi-bin
How can you tell if cgi scripts will work on your web server? I'm sure I have everything in the correct places but I can't seem to get a message board I downloaded to work. * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Update help please
I'm looking to do the same. I really want to know if I'll have to reconfigure everything, such as SAMBA, Proftpd, and my two hotline servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of linux Sent: March 21, 2002 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Update help please Hi I have Mandrake 8.1 and I would like to upgrade my packages to 8.2. Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks Brian _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] translucent shell window
I was wondering how I could get the shell window to appear translucent. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all
Chicopee, Massachusetts -Original Message- From: Hanan Shargi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 12, 2002 7:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all Paul Vortex wrote this on his reply to programs running on wine post, and since there is this trend in the past 2 days in the list where people are posting things that are not neccesarily == ( never mind the spelling ... hint would be nice to add a spell checker in Kmail /hint) related to the list objectivs :) Why dont we people post in what part of the world r we ?? starter: Name: Hanan Country: Fairfax, VA United States IP: .. nah ;-) - Hanan AL-Shargi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] KDE - Connection
I tried to install the kde-moreartwork-liquid and rebooted because it wasn't showing up in LookNFeel/Style. Ever since the reboot I cant connect to the internet. When I click the Connect Icon on the desktop it just sits there and never even completely showing the window. If I try to reconfigure my connection it goes fine until I try to test the connection and it does it says that it can't connect and something must be messed up. I don't really want to reinstall the OS since I finally got so many things working and I don't want to loose the settings. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me. Thanks again, Mithrilhall * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
RE: [newbie] KDE - Connection
I just remembered that I did do some update the other day. I think they were : Samba, Apache, and a few others that I can't think of. Maybe these are the problems. How would I go about uninstalling the updates I recently did if you think that might be my problem? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mithrilhall2000 Sent: March 3, 2002 10:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE - Connection I tried to install the kde-moreartwork-liquid and rebooted because it wasn't showing up in LookNFeel/Style. Ever since the reboot I cant connect to the internet. When I click the Connect Icon on the desktop it just sits there and never even completely showing the window. If I try to reconfigure my connection it goes fine until I try to test the connection and it does it says that it can't connect and something must be messed up. I don't really want to reinstall the OS since I finally got so many things working and I don't want to loose the settings. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me. Thanks again, Mithrilhall * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KDE - Connection
Just found another problem. I can't connect to my network drive (From Windows XP to Mandrake 8.1) Now I think the Samba update is the problem. I had these two computers networked and working fine befor the update. How would I go about finding and uninstalling the update to see if that's my problem? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mithrilhall2000 Sent: March 3, 2002 10:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KDE - Connection I tried to install the kde-moreartwork-liquid and rebooted because it wasn't showing up in LookNFeel/Style. Ever since the reboot I cant connect to the internet. When I click the Connect Icon on the desktop it just sits there and never even completely showing the window. If I try to reconfigure my connection it goes fine until I try to test the connection and it does it says that it can't connect and something must be messed up. I don't really want to reinstall the OS since I finally got so many things working and I don't want to loose the settings. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me. Thanks again, Mithrilhall * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Transparent menu
How do you enable this? I have looked in: Control Center--LookNFeel and I don't see the option anywhere. * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
RE: [newbie] Accessing SSH login through Webmin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry Sent: March 1, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Accessing SSH login through Webmin Hello out there .. I am having trouble accessing my work PC with LM 8.1 through the SSH Login feature of Webmin from any computer. I get random errors from each machine I try to use (most of them say they are java-related). I have Bastille installed and running, and allowing people to access port 22 for the SSH. I also have portsentry running. When I check the /etc/hosts.deny file, I see the machine addresses of the machines which I try to access SSH from. Anyone have any ideas why this isn't working? Thanks! Terry A few questions: The computer you are trying to connect to is running what OS? The computer you are trying to connect from is running what OS? Have you tried connecting from shell? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Killing a program
I installed a called Synapse Hotline X and I have it running in the background and I want to kill it but I have no clue. If someone could tell me how to kill this I would appreciate it. Thanks, Mithrilhall * * Mithrilhall's Linux* * Server * * AMD-K2 350MHz* * http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net * * _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question concerning Hotline server
Has anyone ever installed this on Linux? If so, could you help me get mine up and running? I don't quite understand what I'm supposed to do in the hsx.conf file. This is what it contains by default: R,put your site root path here (/home/hsx for instance) P,5500 (this is the default hotline port) T,put tracker address here (you can define upto 32 T lines) S,put the sitename here (max 31 characters) D,put the site description here (max 255 characters) X,put the number of simultaneous downloads (-1=unlimited) This is what the README file says: Installing your HSX hotline site in N+1 steps :-) - Before running HSX, you must configure your site. 1. edit hsx.conf (you can rename it if you want) to enter your own parameters. 2. You can optionally init your news directory with something in the news file (and rand.??? files if you want). 3. Fill the files directory with what you want. 4. Start HSX 5. use a hotline client and log in as admin. This account has no password and is the initial site administrator account. 6. create a guest account with no password if you want to build a public site. 7...N. Do whatever you want N+1. Set a password on the admin account. This is MANDATORY if you don't want to have problem with intruders. Your site is running now. And remember, you use HSX at your own risk. --- I'm not even sure how to start this thing let alone set it up properly. If anyone can help me here I would greatly appreciate it. Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Shell question
How do you get the last shell command you called to come back up? Example: I type: cp index.php /var/www/html I don't want to keep typing this. In windows you can do something (hitting F3 or something) to bring up the last command you typed in. I thought I read somewhere how to do that in Linux but it's been so long I can't remember. Thanks Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Samba/Windows XP
Can you ping each computer from the other? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Thomas Sent: February 23, 2002 1:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Samba/Windows XP I have a cable modem, a Windows box and a linux box. Both computers are connected to the internet through a hub and both have their own IP addresses to connect. This works perfectly. My laser printer is on my windows box. I wish to set up Samba so that I can print from my linux machine onto the windows machine. So today I downloaded and installed Samba (2.2.3a). I've browsed the web, perused the Samba howto docs from Webmin, followed the instructions EXACTLY and my windows machine won't recognize my Linux machine and vice-versa. Anyone have any tips or can point me to the proper web sites to make this possible? Thanks in advance! James _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux and Win XP
I have XPprofessional and Mandrake 8.1 networked and working fine. Do you have Samba setup yet and if so do you have a user (with the same name) on each computer with the same password (same on each computer)? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: February 21, 2002 6:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux and Win XPIn a message dated 2/21/2002 8:57:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have heard that XP is crippled in the networking area if you run the home edition. do you have home or pro?professional
[newbie] Update question
Every time I try to use the MandrakeUpdate I get errors saying it wasn't able to install anything. Does anyone know what the problem might be or if there was originally a problem when 8.1 shipped? Thanks Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MandrakeUpdate
Every time I try to use the MandrakeUpdate I get errors saying it wasn't able to install anything. Does anyone know what the problem might be or if there was originally a problem when 8.1 shipped? Thanks Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Changing user
For some reason, when I reinstalled Mandrake I have it logging in automatically with a certain user rather than prompting. I want to make it so there are no default users logging in when the computer boots up. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] group permissions
What I really want to do is make every directory non-browse-able to the user anonymous. I want anonymous to only be able to browse its home directory. So I guess I would like to also change all subdirectories and the files within them as well. Something like: chgrp -R anonymous /etc/ Now the only problem I have is I don't know what's going on with a command like this. What would this (or whatever would be correct) do? Again, thanks for your time. Mithrilhall -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Viron Sent: February 13, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] group permissions This depends on what exactly you mean to do. Do you mean to change the group of all files / subdirectories of the directory? If so, you can use 'chgrp -R newgroup directoryname'. Do you want to change only the ownership of the directory itself? Use 'chgrp newgroup directoryname'. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 02:07 AM 02/14/2002 -0800, you wrote: Could someone post an example showing how to change permissions for a certain group. Example: I have a group by the name of anonymous with one user name anonymous belonging in the group. I want to be able to set permissions for group anonymous on certain directories. If someone could post an example I would greatly appreciate it. Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] group permissions
Could someone post an example showing how to change permissions for a certain group. Example: I have a group by the name of anonymous with one user name anonymous belonging in the group. I want to be able to set permissions for group anonymous on certain directories. If someone could post an example I would greatly appreciate it. Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] proftpd question
Maybe I sent the wrong message. When the user anonymous logs in he is sent to the proper directory but they are able to browse other users home directories and are capable of downloading from them. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: February 12, 2002 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] proftpd question Mithrilhall, That somehow seems contradictory. If users are to be sent to their home directory, then they need to long in as themselves, no? I would think that you'd want anonymous logins to be sent to /pub or whatever it is nowadays. Maybe I'm wrong. Miark - Original Message - From: Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:40 PM Subject: [newbie] proftpd question I have set up proftpd to allow a user by the name anonymous to login and download files. They seem to be able to browse my other directories and download from them. Is there a way to make the user anonymous only able to view their home directory and download from that alone? Thanks, Mithrilhall Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Samba Question
I'm setting up Samba and I think I have just about everything perfect. I have a user on the linux computer (Ex. login name: bob password: test) and I have the same user on my Windows XP computer with the same login name and password. When at my Windows XP computer I do a search using the IP of the linux computer and it shows this: Name Folder Comment 192.168.1.3 unknown If I double-click the IP address shown above I get a login prompt and I type in the username bob and the password test but it never logs in. It just keeps giving me the same prompt. If I go to the linux computer and open Network Monitoring I can see that it is sending and receiving but I can't figure out why it's not letting me log in. If anyone can help me with this I would greatly appreciate it. Mithrilhall # ### ## ## ### ##()#()## #### @ # #### @@@ ## ## ### ### ###### # # # # ### ## ##### ## #### ## # # ## # ## ## ## ## ## ### # # ## ### ## ## ## ## ###@@# #@@ ## # ##### ## ## ## ## ## @# #@ ## ## ### # ## ## ### ##### ##@@# #@@ ### ### # # @#@ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Samba Question
Where do I find webmin. I am still very new to Linux.
As for users and passwords. I have the same user and password combo on my
Linux and Windows XP computer.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anke Max
Sent: February 3, 2002 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [newbie] Samba Question
Gidday Mithrilhall
I know nothing of XP, but I am using Samba (via webmin).
Do you have a samba user of the same name and password?
In webmin it's easy, you tell it to convert all linux users to samba users.
rgds
max
I'm setting up Samba and I think I have just about everything perfect. I
have a user on the linux computer (Ex. login name: bob password: test) and
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have the same user on my Windows XP computer with the same login name and
password.
When at my Windows XP computer I do a search using the IP of the linux
computer and it shows this:
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If I double-click the IP address shown above I get a login prompt and I
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in the username bob and the password test but it never logs in. It
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keeps giving me the same prompt. If I go to the linux computer and open
Network Monitoring I can see that it is sending and receiving but I
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figure out why it's not letting me log in.
If anyone can help me with this I would greatly appreciate it.
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RE: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16
That sounds like an internal IP. If someone wants to reach you on that IP they'll need to be on the network as far as I know. If you going through a router see if you can find out what the public IP is. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: January 31, 2002 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CAN i be reached with ip :10.2.0.16 On Thursday 31 January 2002 12:26, you wrote: Check with your ISP and see if they have a proxy server running. If so, you can probably make your web services available via that route. The proxy should be available via your lan, since it would be on the ISP's network. The purpose of a proxy server is to shield your local IP address from outside negative influences. However in your case, it's main value would be in giving your machine access to the internet at large. my ISP has assigned me ip: 10.2.0.16 in our LAN, since this ip adress is not routable in the internet, IS there any client by which i can make my system a web server , and can be reached from any where in the world. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP upload; did I miss something?
Sounds like a permissions problem. What are you signing in as? - Original Message - From: Tuan Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [newbie] FTP upload; did I miss something? Hi all, I am setting up FTP and I can not create of up load files to the Linux server (RH7.1 Pro version). I use CuteFTP and can log in to the server. However, when I tried to upload a file to this server it gave me an error. Any thought? Thank you Tuan PS. I use WU-FTP for this server _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Format drive
I recently installed a slave drive into my linux computer (the slave drive was formatted from windows). When viewing this slave drive from linux, linux indicated that the drive was only 2.9 Gigs when in fact it's 20 Gigs. Well, I've decided to start from scratch and want to re-format the slave drive and was wondering how to do this in linux. I would like to re-format the slave drive and partition it as well. One more question: I have a proftpd server running. I recently took some games I have in zip files and burned them to a CD and dumped them on the linux computer. If I download the game (via FTP) back to my windows computer and try unzipping them they always have some errors and will not work. The games work perfectly if I copy them off the CD to my windows computer so the files must be getting corrupted when being transferred via FTP. Does anyone have any knowledge of proftpd having problems with files that are over a certain size? The zip files (which have been make into .exe are about 172MB to 400+MB. Any help on either of these problems would be greatly appreciated. Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP
Go into your bios and change your boot up sequence to boot from CD or something like that. Then you don't need boot disks for Win2k or Win XP. - Original Message - From: Hugo Saro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: [newbie] I'm giving up on XP I couldn't fix my problem (would be hard w/o the cd anyway), so i'm leaving XP. I want to switch to 2000 Server, but i have no idea of how to create a startup disk for NTFS.. Does anyone know how to ? Thanks, and happy new year guys __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Slave drive question
I installed a 20 gig slave drive that had windows on it and mounted it with diskdrake. The question I have is, the drive was a 20 gig and when I open Disk Free it shows both of the windows drives and where it says size it shows and incorrect number. One drive is 157Mb and the other is 2.29Gb with the 157Mb being 100% full and the 2.29Gb at 38.9%. This must be incorrect because the drive is a 20 gig. Is there something I am doing wrong here? Also, is it possible to mount the two windows drives (C D) anywhere I want? When I mount them it gives me a list to pick from but I want to be able to mount it to where I want. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux - slave drive
I just put in a slave hard drive into my linux computer and when starting up the computer it sees the slave drive but when I'm in linux I don't see it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The slave drive currently has windows on it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive
Ok, I must be an idiot because I can't find diskdrake anywhere. Can you point me to where it is? Thanks again - Original Message - From: tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux - slave drive Mithrilhall2000 wrote: I just put in a slave hard drive into my linux computer and when starting up the computer it sees the slave drive but when I'm in linux I don't see it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. The slave drive currently has windows on it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, yes, run diskdrake, mount the drive from there then say to save the info to /etc/fstab when asked. It probably sees the dribve just fine but you have no definition for the partition(s) and mount point(s). Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hotline
Thanks! - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Hotline On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 10:03:28PM -0800, E Estes wrote: I'm not sure if anyone is familiar with the program hotline. I was wondering if there was a Linux version of this available for download? I did a search online and didn't find anything. http://gtkhx.sourceforge.net/links.html Or, http://synhxd.sourceforge.net/ Or, http://hx.fortyoz.org/ -- Cheers, Stephen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Can someone explain to me how to.................
install files (that are not rpm) on linux, such as something like this ghx3_Linux_x86_glibc22_20010802.tar.gz. I understand this is compressed twice from what I've read, once tar and the other gzip but I have no clue what to do with it. Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall =Mithrilhall= Linux - Mandrake 8.1 AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz File Server FTP Server Web Server http://mithrilhall.redirectme.net = _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Question on slave hard drive
I have an extra 20 gig hard drive sitting in my desk and want to use it as a slave in my Linux comp. but was wondering a few things. The hard drive currently has windows 98 installed on it. What would happen if I connected it to the linux computer? Will it re-partition it? Secondly, if I do connect the 20 gig and it re-partitions and everything is ok, how do I give more disk space to certain users? I have an anonymous user set up and would like to give most if not all of the space to that user to for file room (this will be my file server). Thanks in advance, Mithrilhall =Mithrilhall= Linux - Mandrake 8.1 AMD K-2 / 350 Mhz File Server FTP Server Web Server = _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP help please
Ok, I was following the talk about the proftpd server and I have been trying to get it working with no luck. I read the basic.conf file and made a few changes and saved it as proftpd.conf like it said. I then opened port 21 on my linksys router and I still can't log in to the proftpd server. Here is a copy of my proftpd.conf file: # This is a basic ProFTPD configuration file (rename it to # 'proftpd.conf' for actual use. It establishes a single server # and a single anonymous login. It assumes that you have a user/group # nobody and ftp for normal operation and anon. ServerName ProFTPD Default Installation ServerType standalone DefaultServer on # Port 21 is the standard FTP port. Port21 # Umask 022 is a good standard umask to prevent new dirs and files # from being group and world writable. Umask022 # To prevent DoS attacks, set the maximum number of child processes # to 30. If you need to allow more than 30 concurrent connections # at once, simply increase this value. Note that this ONLY works # in standalone mode, in inetd mode you should use an inetd server # that allows you to limit maximum number of processes per service # (such as xinetd) MaxInstances 30 # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at. Usereric Grouperic # Normally, we want files to be overwriteable. Directory /* AllowOverwrite on /Directory # A basic anonymous configuration, no upload directories. Anonymous ~ftp Userftp Groupftp # We want clients to be able to login with anonymous as well as ftp UserAlias anonymous ftp # Limit the maximum number of anonymous logins MaxClients 10 # We want 'welcome.msg' displayed at login, and '.message' displayed # in each newly chdired directory. DisplayLogin welcome.msg DisplayFirstChdir .message # Limit WRITE everywhere in the anonymous chroot Limit WRITE DenyAll /Limit /Anonymous This is the only section I changed: # Set the user and group that the server normally runs at. Usereric Grouperic I log into my linux computer with the login name eric and I am in the group eric (at least that's what it says when I go into the User Manager). Any and all help would be appreciated, Mithrilhall - Original Message - From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric Budinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] FTP help please On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:57:25 +0100 Jun Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: it's up and running, configure it as you want. On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:21:18AM -0500, Eric Budinger wrote: Eric, What you do next depends upon what you want to do with it. If you're thinking of offering it as a private FTP server for folks you're expecting to stop by and grab files then the setup will be somewhat different then if you're setting it up to run 24/7 for just anyone who either finds it or knows it's there and stops by for a look around at what you've got available. One thing I will mention here is that Proftpd is somewhat more permissions sensitive then wu-ftpd, so be mindful of how you set it up. there is some very good documentation at the Proftpd site that will help you get going and get it configured to suit your needs as well as some good example config files both there and on your system from the install. check here -- /usr/share/doc/proftpd-1.2.2 on your system for documentation that will shed quite a bit of light on what makes this app tick. very informative. If you've still got questions then let'em fly here and we'll take them one at a time. I've got some experience with Proftpd and it's been running on my system for a few months now as well as on a server I setup at work. I'm very pleased with it's performance. -- daRcmaTTeR Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 7:05am up 22:46, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question on floppy
Yes there is a disk in the drive. Yes it's formated. I'm not sure about the last question though. Could you tell me exactly what you mean. I'm still very new to linux but if I am correct you're talking about the File System Type? If so it's set to auto. - Original Message - From: Ed Tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question on floppy On Friday 14 December 2001 15:09, you wrote: On Friday 14 December 2001 05:48, you wrote: | Everytime I try to mount the floppy drive by clicking on the drive icon | on the desktop it goes to open the drive and then displays and error. The | error is as follows: Could not read / | | I have no clue what the problem is. Any help would be greatly | appreciated. | | Thanks, | Mithrilhall Do you have a disk in the drive? a formated disk? and is your fstab set to read a disk of that formating? ie.; fat? mac? ext2? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question on floppy
How would you unmount it and is this doable from the desktop (GUI) or just through shell? - Original Message - From: Gerald Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question on floppy On Saturday 15 December 2001 01:49, Mithrilhall2000 wrote: Yes there is a disk in the drive. Yes it's formated. I'm not sure about the last question though. Could you tell me exactly what you mean. I'm still very new to linux but if I am correct you're talking about the File System Type? If so it's set to auto. command line. try man mount try mount /dev/fd0 -t msdos /mnt/floppy if it's an msdos floppy -- -Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy drive question........
Yep, I'm a dummy. Thanksit's been really bothering me. - Original Message - From: bascule [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Floppy drive question you aren't unmounting the first disk before removing it, you need to do this, right click on the icon and choose 'unmount' (in kde anyway) bascule On Thursday 29 Nov 2001 2:51 am, you wrote: I did a fix to get my floppy drive working. Now I have just one more question about it. When I click the floppy desktop icon I see the activitey light go on but only the first time I click it. If I click it agian with a different disk in there it just brings up the same files that were on the first disk. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Question about installing a .tar.gz file
Thanks a ton. I was hoping someone would take it slow with me. Most people I ask assume I know a lot about linux already but I don't. And I'm really glad you told me how to do it in shell. I started messing around with linux because of the power I hear it possess. Thanks again - Original Message - From: Paul RodrÃguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Question about installing a .tar.gz file On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 23:38, E Estes wrote: I'm really new to linux and I have no clue what to do with these types of files. I right-clicked and opened it with Archiver and extracted it to a directory I made but after that point I'm simply stumped. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. It depends what the file is. A tar.gz file is a file that is compressed (kind of like zip or sit you may already be familiar with). In order to access the files inside of a .tar.bz file, you must first unextract them. In the case of .tar.bz, it's actually been compressed twice, once using tar and once using bzip. In order to unextract this file, open up a console window, or what is called a shell (think of it as a window to your computer). While you can always use graphical programs like archiver, you'll quickly discover that in GNU/Linux, it is often much quicker and more convenient to do operations in the shell, or what is also called the command line. It is an extremely powerful tool that will save you no end of time, DOS it ain't. Anyway, in the command line, find your file named *.tar.bz. You can try ls *.tar.bz or ls [name of your file] or even find -name [name of your file]. Once you find it, type tar -xvvzf [name of your file].tar.bz. This opens the program tar and everything after the dash are command paramters. In this case x is extract, vv for very verbose (it will print to the screen what it is doing, z will extract the file if it is bzipped as well which this one is, and f stands for force, meaning it won't prompt you for every message. Now, depending one what the file contained you'd do something differently. If the file contained a bunch of pictures, for example, you'd simply go into the new directory [file name] and be able to see them. If the file contained a program, which is probably the most common time you'd run across a Tar Ball or a .tar.bz, then you need to compile the program. Simply put, this means that the program you downloaded is not a machine readable, binary that just installs, but the source code or the list of commands that the program is really made up of. In windows, for example, all programs are distributed as .exe binaries. In Linux, you may use binaries as well, in Mandrake they are called .rpm. Even though it takes an extra step or two, there are a lot of advantages to installing programs from source code however. The most important is, of course, the abillity to change the program to suit your needs. And while this may seem far off in your learning, it may not come that far down the road that you can see improvements you can make in a program. Second, the program, once compiled, is specifically tuned for your system. In order to install a progam from source, you need to enter the porgrams directoory, for example, by typing cd [program's name, or name of new folder created when you extracted your file]. Then type ./configure. This runs the configuration script. The ./ is used to run a program in the current directory (it is used for security reasons. After a bunch of characters fly by, type make. Some more characters will fly by. Now you need to go to superuser mode, type su, and when prompted enter your root user's password. Now you can type make install and your program will be installed. I highly recomend you install a program called checkinstall. (Go to http://www.freshmeat.net and do a search for checkinstall) This will create a customized rpm for your system from the source code, which makes it easier to install and uninstall programs from source. Read the program's readme and install files for more info. Sorry if this was too elementary, I thought it might be a good idea to take it slow. There are hundreds of good books and websites with Unix/Linux basic information as well. Also, there are a number of documentation files on your system you should be aware of. 1. The man pages. WHen there is a program you would like to learn how to use, type man program name. For example, type man tar o learn more about the tar program and what it can do. Also try info tar. You can also do man man to learn more about the man command. Or man ls. 2. A program called apropos, and another called whatis, try them with man. 3. The Mandrake documentation itself, included in the Documentation menu in your menus. Good luck. -Paul RodrÃguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at
