Regular Expressions. WAS: Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER
Thanks, Mark. I am familiar with regular expressions from years ago when I ran an SCO 4.2-based BBS (remember BBSes?). I'm getting back into *nix with Linux, and I'm amazed at the number of things I've forgotten. Concise, clear explanations like yours are very helpful. -Paul He can be taught! Schwebel --- Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:20:33 -0800 (PST) Paul Schwebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Could you explain what regex's in the SMTP'S configuration file is? Thanks, -Paul He can be taught! Schwebel Paul, regex is a geek-speak for regular expression. what it referes to is a search function used in Unix/PERL/C/C++ and other high level languages, both interpreted and compiled to find alpha-numeric string patterns. since i'm snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER
As far as mail sorting, I've found getmail works well and is easier to set up than procmail. You can then feed mail from getmail into a spam filtering program, but I think you'd have to do that with procmail as well. -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel --- Matt Koppelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dunno.. i dont have THAT much experience.. i've heard procmail is a nightmare to install, i'm looking for something quick, and easy.. - Original Message - From: Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER From: Matt Koppelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a new sysadmin for my ISP.. we have a horrible spam problem here, and no one has done anything in the past to resolve it. I have decent linux experience, but i wouldnt exactly call myself a pro.. :) i have been looking into blackmail, but it seems very difficult to install. I was wondering if anyone out there knew of an AWESOME spam filter, that can be used system-wide (for ISP use) and is EASY to install and administer.. can anyone please help me?!?!? :) Give procmail a try. I'm about to set it up for my network as well. I don't actually have it running yet, but I've seen nothing but positive things about it. http://www.procmail.org/ Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER
--- Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, have you looked into setting up some regex's in the SMTP's configuration file. This is one good way to start taking a bite out of all that crap they're sending at your mailservers. snip Could you explain what regex's in the SMTP'S configuration file is? Thanks, -Paul He can be taught! Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sorting mail, again...skinky, are you there?
I am _still_ trying to sort mail so that my wife's mail goes to her inbox and mine goes to my inbox. I was going to use a fetchmail/procmail setup, but never got it quite working when skinky told me about getmail. Getmail setup was a snap, and it works as you mentioned, skinky. BUT, I have one problem. I think it related to permissions, but I don't know how to fix it. I have getmail setup so that when I run it, it gets our mail and sorts it into two mboxes /var/spool/mail/his and /var/spool/mail/hers. I own both files and have rw. The group homemail is assigned to both files with rw permission. My wife and I are both members of homemail. We each have identical getmailrc files in our respective directories. When I log on, this works fine, and I got this far thanks to you, skinky. But when my wife logs on, getmail fails because it can't write to my mbox. I thought that since we were both members of the homemail group and that since it has rw permission, that she'd be able to write to my mbox, but apparently, getmail wants you to be the owner. Is there anyway to set this up so that both my wife and I can run getmail successfully? -Paul desperately seeking Linux Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Configuring a LAN card
I'm setting up an old PC with Mandrake 8.1. It has an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10+ ISA card. I've tried to configure the card using the Control Center, but when I try to load the driver, it fails. When I try using ifconfig at a root console, I get no such device and the like. I've checked the card with DOS test utilities and it seems to be fine. The IRQ is set at 10 and the I/O address is 210. What could I try next? Thanks, -Paul Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
Tell your doctor that Data reliability and cheap don't go together. He/she will have to choose. Mirrored drives, along with daily backups will give you some reliability. They don't necessarily have to be hot swappable, unless downtime is not an option. I have run both Compaq and Dell servers in a public school environment (Netware, not Linux). I prefer the Dells. My .02, -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District --- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Jim. Your reccomendations have been very helpful. I've been going over several options over the last few days. I'm afraid server grade components seem to be outside the price range of this environment. The doctor is looking for components in the $500 range. That being said, I'd like to know more about hot-swappable drives. Because of the importance of data reliability, I will definately be going for a RAID setup, probably just mirroring as you said. And because of price considerations I'm currently leaning towards integrated motherboard RAID controllers. Having never used removable hard drives, I need to ask whether or not this needs to be integrated into the case or can be added to later. snip Subject: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =_1005591342-1851-1811 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
I'm sure there are many opinions about this, and what Dell calls a 'server' and what I think of as server components may not be the same, AND there are esoteric hardware distinctions that I do not know. Servers are optimized for speed and fault-tolerance. This means considering the type of processor, the chipset that controls data throughput on the motherboard, the hard drive sytem, and the LAN card. In general, a server box will have SCSI internals for its hard drives. It will have redundant power supplies. It will run a full-blown microprocessor (Pentium vs. Celeron, for example). It will have one, or better, two NICS at a minimum of 100Mbps (Dell is shipping servers with Gb Ethernet on the motherboard). Now, here's where my knowledge gets spotty. Motherboards. Some motheboards/chipsets are more efficient at moving data to and from the processor. Also, different types of memory are more robust/faster. A RAID 5 array (you need 3 hard drives, minimum) will give you better performance than simple mirroring, as well as uninterrupted fault-tolerance if one drive fails. -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District --- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly differentiates server grade hardware and desktop grade? I ask this because checking out some Dell servers (just above the price range for this project, but wrangleable) they seem to be pretty much the same hardware I would find in a desktop computer. IDE drives for example, and not even ATA/100/133 RAID. -Paul Rodríguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How do I sync my Visor - USB (was: Info on Syncing Visor (USB)}
I installed jpilot from the cd. It looks like it requires some kind of /dev/... entry in the preferences. So, I went looking for a ttyUSB... kind of entry, but there are NONE in my /dev folder. I did some research and found that 8.1 defaults to a new devfs system that's is, as I understand it, supposed to be more dynamic in that you don't get a bzillion unused device files in /dev. BUT, my USB Visor doesn't work, and I'm not sure how to get Mandrake 8.1 to recognize it. I tried disabling the devfs system per instructions from the MUO site, but still no good. Any ideas? -Paul 'oy vay' Schwebel --- shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jpilot, used, works, requiered no changes that i recall (in other words there may have been, but minor. kpilot is reported to handle usb in the next version.. jpilot should be on the cd if you don't have it installed, or in apps comm jpilot if you do. On Thursday 01 November 2001 13:40, you spoke unto me thusly: I'm in the process of migrating to Linux from WinMe. I've got a long check list of 'todos'. One of them is syncing my Visor. I found the Pilot application that comes with 8.1, but it seems to be only for a serial connection. I've tried searching the Mandrake site and the LDP, and found some info, including a Mini-HOWTO, but it seems to be slightly out of date, and implies that I need to compile a kernel, a feat that I am very uncomfortable trying just yet. I was wondering if anyone syncs their Visor to their Linux box, and how they did it. Also, are there apps out there (like ahem, Outlook) that allow me to sync my Visor's address book with my computer's email list. -Paul the saga continues Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
Thanks. I will let you know the results... =Paul --- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, sorry for the delay... On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote: Ralph, I can see three possible approaches. Approach 1: The one you wrote here makes sense, but I'm not snip Now you should both be able to read / write to those folders and nobody else. However this ends up, I've been learning alot. Thanks. We all have :-) LOL Give it all a shot what's the worst that can happen? Maybe your computer will turn into a barbeque :-)) ROFL! Good luck and I hope this helps explain some stuff. Ralph __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
Yeah, but now...it's personal! ;-) -Paul --- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, really to make things simple, why not just drop her old address (just not use it), create a yahoo mail address for her, and fetch that account using pop? This may save you a hell of a lot of time and effort :-) Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What I did wrong
Skinky, Thanks, I will look into getmail. This is great! I love the fact that there are so many interesting possible solutions to problems. I've gotten a lot of ideas and approaches from people on this list. Thank you all. -Paul where's the Any key? Schwebel --- skinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:22, skinky wrote: | sorry for this rushed reply but I have a big day ahead of me (away from | my pc - k... shock... horror). Will look into it tonight and let | you know whatever I find works. Thanks for your reply. | | skinky | | On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 07:05, Paul Schwebel wrote: | | Yes, this is helpful to me, too. Thanks. The questions | | that occur to me are as follows: | | | | You wrote: snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Info on Syncing Visor (USB)
Thanks, I will check the CD and let you know if I got it to work. -Paul but I don't WANT to RTFM! Schwebel --- shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jpilot, used, works, requiered no changes that i recall (in other words there may have been, but minor. kpilot is reported to handle usb in the next version.. jpilot should be on the cd if you don't have it installed, or in apps comm jpilot if you do. On Thursday 01 November 2001 13:40, you spoke unto me thusly: I'm in the process of migrating to Linux from WinMe. I've got a long check list of 'todos'. One of them is syncing my Visor. I found the Pilot application that comes with 8.1, but it seems to be only for a serial connection. I've tried searching the Mandrake site and the LDP, and found some info, including a Mini-HOWTO, but it seems to be slightly out of date, and implies that I need to compile a kernel, a feat that I am very uncomfortable trying just yet. I was wondering if anyone syncs their Visor to their Linux box, and how they did it. Also, are there apps out there (like ahem, Outlook) that allow me to sync my Visor's address book with my computer's email list. -Paul the saga continues Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't. shane registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
--- Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, quaylar wrote: So you better not run /etc/procmailrc! root privileges!!! Just make a simple one and copy to other users... much better than having a security 'hole'! Then, how do I get this to work? Say I put a .procmailrc in my home directory and another one in my wifes. The point of this is to filter the mail headers so that mail addressed to me goes to my mailbox and mail addressed to my wife goes to hers (we have different addresses that get forwarded to the same email account at my ISP). Now, say I log in. I have a .procmailrc in my home directory, so Linux invokes procmail. My recipe tries to move mail addressed to my wife into her home directory. I'm not logged in as root, so won't this fail? Will this work?? The man page says nothing about /etc/procmailrc. u sure ? and whats this then : man procmail If no rcfiles and no -p have been specified on the command line, procmail will, prior to reading $HOME/.procmailrc, interpret commands from /etc/procmailrc (if present). Care must be taken when creating /etc/procmailrc, because, if circumstances permit, it will be executed with root privileges (contrary to the $HOME/.procmailrc file of course). read more carefully ;) --quay -- == Linux user # 102240 = Machine # 96125 = Seti@home user == Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
Ralph,
I can see three possible approaches.
Approach 1:
The one you wrote here makes sense, but I'm not sure
what you meant below by export both our mail
folders. She uses Kmail, and I use Evolution.
Approach 2:
Put the .procmailrc in /etc and have procmail run as
root, though I'm not sure:
1. how to invoke it, and
2. I don't know if procmail runs with root priviledges
anyway, and
3.if I have to setuid it and if this is too dangerous
from a security standpoint, not to mention
4. I don't know if a procmail recipe can put mail in
any folder I specify or if it has to be a subfolder of
{HOME}/Mail.
Finally, we have Approach 3:
Privacy is not the issue. It's just that we share our
email account. Under Win9x this wasn't a problam, but
since Linux really isolates one user from another,
when I get the mail it goes into my inbox and when she
gets the mail it goes into her inbox. I get mail
intended for her and vice versa.
So, the 3rd approach might be to change the
permissions on the directory that fetchmail dumps the
mail into so we can both access it.
Is that easier than the symlink approach you
mentioned? We could each symlink our inbox folder to
where fetchmail dumps it? I haven't much experience
with symlinks, so I'm not sure how the permissions
would work.
However this ends up, I've been learning alot. Thanks.
-Paul
--- Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote:
Then, how do I get this to work? Say I put a
.procmailrc in my home directory and another one
in my
wifes.
The point of this is to filter the mail headers so
that mail addressed to me goes to my mailbox and
mail
.
.
.
Yes, in my opinion this will fail miserably. The
problem here is that you
both receive mail via the same e-mail address
(forwarded). There are
probably several complicated ways to get this
eventually to work, maybe by
internally mailing messages accross, but this is of
course a pain in the
ass. 1 solution I can think of is to export both
your mail folders, into
a shared folder like /home/mail . In /home/mail you
.
.
.
This of course has absolutely no point if you want
total privacy, but hey,
you married her :-) LOL
Not sure what mail program you guys are using, but
most standard
mailfolders can just be symlinked to the
/home/mail/you or
/home/mail/your_wife folders.
Hope this helps ya,
greetings
Ralph
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Re: [newbie] fetchmail and procmail
No, I think I get it. Right now I have fetchmail get our mail. Then, you're saying that I can set up a procmail recipe so that when I get the mail, it sends wife-specific mail to her, and when she opens the mail, it sents husband-specific mail to me. Right? --- Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:36:53 -0800 (PST) Hi Paul, If you know how to get procmail running on your own account, then there would be a simple solution as long as you have postfix running too. You can set up a recipe for procmail that determines if mail is for you or your wife. If it is your wife's, then just have . . . , the 3rd approach might be to change the permissions on the directory that fetchmail dumps the mail into so we can both access it. -- He who binds to himself a joy Does a winged life destroy But he who kisses a joy as it flies Lives in eternal sunrise -William Blake http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cool looking themes don't work (GNOME, Enlightenment, M8.1)
Thank you! I've been wanting to know the relationship between GTK+ themes and window manager themes. That brings up one more thing I'd like to understand: I know what a window manager is, and how it works with X to manage desktop graphics. Where to the desktop environments fit into this (GNOME Desktop, CDE and KDE, for example)? Thanks, -Paul he can be taught! Schwebel --- Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GTK+ handles what is _inside_ the windows (buttons, scrollbars, etc.), also known as widgets. Enlightenment handles the window frames, including the title bars. Each has its own theming system, and so to have a uniform look you need to use similar GTK+ and Enlightenment themes. On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:22:29 +0200, Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay i'm not following. under gnome i have a theme selected (which changes the widgets etc... very nice, but not aqua) so when i try enlighenment (by itself or as gnomes wm) i use the aqua enlightenment theme. now it appears to use the gnome theme for the windows and the aqua theme for the title bars. are you saying i need to find the gnome aqua theme to get the windows right as well? ___ Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbie List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] cool looking themes don't work (GNOME, Enlightenment, M8.1) On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:03:35 +0200, Robert MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi My problem is that I can't get themes to work the way they should in Enlightenment. I select a theme (i'm trying to get aqua to work) but all it does is change enlightenment's menu, and the title bars. In the screen shots it changes the windows as well. Any idea how to get it to change the windows as well? I think you may be confusing GTK+ themes with Enlightenment themes. Both are separate, and are installed independently. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Are you all on drugs? Get your acts together, guys. Stop blathering and frothing at the mouth -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting mail
Thanks, I will be working on fetchmail this weekend. Yes, pobox.com works very well. -Paul --- Ricardo Castanho de O. Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Paul Schwebel wrote: It's a simple task if you use fetchmail! It will fetch all and every mail and distribute locally to the correct user! It's just like I do with my email and my wife's! You can use fetchmailconf (on X windows) to generate it! It can be a little difficult at the beginning but, don't worry! It IS simple! In case of doubt, just drop me a line! I can send you a sample!(of the necessary '.fetchmailrc' file) []s Ricardo Castanho ps: by the way! I use former Iname, now Mail.com andwell, does pobox.com works? Okay, now that I have my DSL connection up and running, I can get to the problem I _really_ wanted to ask about! This may be a simple case of RTFM, but if . . . use that will sort the mail based on the alias being mine or my wifes. Thanks, -Paul How Do I Work This? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Yesterday, I was trying to show of the 'better' OS (Mandrake 8.1) to my daughter, who is a major Harry Potter fan. We went to the Warner Brother's site (http://www.harrypotter.com) to 'enroll' in Hogwarts and go to the Quidditch practice pages. But I kept getting told that I had to install Flash and Shockwave. I checked the plugins on the browser (I tried both Netscape and Mozilla (and Konqueror for that matter)) and they appeared to be installed, but still not working. I tried installing from macromedia's website, but that effort kept crashing the browser. Which leads me to the questions: 1. What browsers in Linux support Flash and Shockwave? 2. Why didn't the installed plugins work? Version conflict? I'm trying to convert the family to Linux, but with demonstrations like these, I just proved to my daughter that things work more smoothly in Windoze. Yuck. -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Did you try the area where you practice Quidditch? The site worked fine for me, too, until I went to Seeker practice I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Flash and Shockwave
Did you actually go into the area I mentioned? The site worked fine until I went to practice Quidditch, and that's where I ran into problems. --- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:52:53 -0400 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Paul Schwebel's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) I just fired up Mozilla (running MDK8.0) and that works just A-OK on the site. Paul Works great with Opera 5.05TP1 Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
Thanks Dave, I will check on this and post you back. Since my system is not really live yet (I'm still dual booting from WinMe) I did a complete reinstall last night. I had tried so many leads that I wasn't sure what state my system was in, and (sigh) didn't document as I went. I will this time. -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 October 2001 10:13, Paul Schwebel opined on the topic: Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Yes, you do need DNS to resolve those, too ;-) Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? No, Linux should try to use DNS by default, as long as you have the IP addresses in your resolv.conf. You will need bind-utils installed. Do this in an xterm: rpm -qa|grep bind and see if you get a bind-utils package. If not, you will need to install it. If you know what bind is (a full DNS server), then you may guess that bind-utils is just a set of tools for domain name resolution and other information gathering. Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. I have only used SUSe once, and it was a 6.x version. Back then (a couple of years ago), it seemed pretty good, but I ended up switching to Caldera, and then switching to Mandrake at the suggestion of a friend. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE71JYUA68l26XsZUYRAsO5AKCSJa05bH14LFCwsLwn5UjJ1mM8MACg3GIP ak7eZasT8/EGvnk2KtXVFW4= =Yf1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga SOLVED!
Dave and Paul, I'm not sure what fixed things. I reinstalled Mandrake last night because I have played around with so many files that I wasn't sure of the original state of the install. I made sure I had bind utilities installed, and carefully configured my rp-pppoe software, initially with NO firewall, since the instructions for adsl-setup said that if I selected a firewall setting AND I had any servers running, that no traffic would pass. Since I don't know how to tell if I have any servers running (do you?) I said NONE for the firewall setting. Now, everything works! DNS, mail, everything. I set up my login and my wife's login. Everything looks good. Now I can post the newbie group about something else! Thanks, -Paul Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sorting mail
Okay, now that I have my DSL connection up and running, I can get to the problem I _really_ wanted to ask about! This may be a simple case of RTFM, but if someone could point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. I use an email forwarding service, pobox.com. If you're not familiar with it, pobox.com allows you to use up to 5 email names. It will forward mail addressed to those names to your real email account with your ISP. I started using the service so that if I had to change ISPs I wouldn't have to change email addresses. This has worked beautifully. I have had to change ISPs two or three times in the last few years, but my email address remains the same. I simply have pobox.com forward my mail to my current ISP. I have aliases for my wife and for myself. This worked great when I was a Win9x user. We just used the same mail application. But now, I'm migrating to Linux- Mandrake.My wife and I now have separate mailboxes on the PC because we have separate logins. I was wondering if there's some way I can sort the mail so that mail addressed to my wife goes to her mail reader (KMail), and mail addressed to me goes to my reader (Evolution). I've looked at the mail headers, and you can find the pobox.com alias in it. There must be something I can use that will sort the mail based on the alias being mine or my wifes. Thanks, -Paul How Do I Work This? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
Dave, Thanks for the clarification on my questions. Earthlink/Mindspring has 3 nameservers for their Mindspring customers (of which I am one). They are: 207.69.188.185 207.69.188.186 207.69.188.187 I use the first two in my resolv.conf files and in the rp-pppoe setup. I can ping these numbers. Also, I can't seem to connect with their email servers, pop.mindspring.com and smtp.mindspring.com, so I'm not sure this is strictly a DNS problem, unless DNS is also required to resolve these names. Hmm, now that I think about it, I guess DNS must be involved. Is there a simple 'enable DNS' checkbox that I've missed? Now, I used to have a SuSE distribution (7.1), but I switched to Mandrake because of what appeared to be a more user friendly wrapper around the OS. I was able to connect with SuSE on the box, and I can connect under Win, so I'm not having a hardware issue. Thanks for the help, -Paul --- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. If you can ing using an IP address but not using a domain name, then the problem almost certainly is in the domain resolution. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: . . . lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 . . . I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. LO is needed, even if you are not connected to a network. The reason is that Linux runs lots of network-aware apps (including X Windows), and they need some sort of network to run properly. The local loopback provides this, in lieu of a real network. But even if you have a real network connection, you still need the local loopback. Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? Go into Control Center, open the Services, and disable Networking on boot. AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? httpd is the Apache web server daemon. You do not need it for your PC to be connected to the Internet. Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. No problem. Like I said above, the problem is almost certainly with your domain resolution. Either your PC is unable to reach the DNS servers you specified, or else the DNS servers are not responding. What are the IP addresses of Mindspring's DNS servers? Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DSL and 8.1, the saga continues
I'm still trying to connect my Mandrake 8.1 box to the Internet via an Earthlink/Mindspring DSL connection. I've gone over the various suggestions I've gotten from this list and others, done some reading and reconfiguring. I'm not there yet, but I'm closer. Here's what's going on: I'm using the rp-pppoe gui. When I start the link, the gui appears to connect, that is, it goes 'green'. However, I can't connect with either a Web browser, or any mail client. I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and they have the correct entries for Mindspring's DNS servers. But, I CAN ping various web sites using their IP addresses. Now, an ifconfig brings up the following info: [root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:DA:7C:BC:C7 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:5849 (5.7 Kb) TX bytes:12355 (12.0 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:347 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) TX bytes:39039 (38.1 Kb) I'm wondering if that 'lo' entry is the problem. My recollection of local loopback means that the PC is only sending IP to itself? I'm not sure why I can ping, unless the loopback doesn't apply to ICMP packets. In any case, if this is a problem, can someone tell me? Also, if it IS the problem, how do I get rid of it permanently? I've looked thru linuxconf and several man pages to no avail! Also, in the HOW-TO-CONNECT doc for rp-pppoe they say DO NOT configure the card to come up at boot time. How do I do this? AND here's another possible cause of my problem. Is httpd supposed to be running? When I do a 'ps -A' while rp-pppoe is connected I get this: PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ?00:00:04 init 3 ?00:00:00 keventd 4 ?02:07:10 kapm-idled 5 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 6 ?00:00:00 kswapd 7 ?00:00:00 kreclaimd 8 ?00:00:00 bdflush 9 ?00:00:00 kupdated 10 ?00:00:00 mdrecoveryd 113 ?00:00:00 devfsd 142 ?00:00:00 open 147 vc/1100:00:04 Monitor-NewStyl 897 ?00:00:00 khubd 1360 ?00:00:00 portmap 1382 ?00:00:00 syslogd 1390 ?00:00:00 klogd 1484 ?00:00:00 apmd 1509 ?00:00:00 atd 1589 ?00:00:00 cupsd 1767 ?00:00:00 gpm 1964 ?00:00:00 crond 1988 ?00:00:01 xfs 2176 vc/1 00:00:00 mingetty 2177 vc/2 00:00:00 mingetty 2178 vc/3 00:00:00 mingetty 2179 vc/4 00:00:00 mingetty 2180 vc/5 00:00:00 mingetty 2181 vc/6 00:00:00 mingetty 2182 ?00:00:00 kdm 2193 ?00:00:24 X 2194 ?00:00:00 kdm 2296 ?00:00:00 startkde 2316 ?00:00:01 medusa-idled 2392 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2395 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2398 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2405 ?00:00:03 artsd 2444 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2472 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2473 ?00:00:00 ksmserver 2482 ?00:00:03 kdeinit 2484 ?00:00:03 kdeinit 2486 ?00:00:04 kdeinit 2494 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2495 pts/000:00:00 cat 2497 ?00:00:00 alarmd 2927 ?00:00:05 wish 2928 ?00:00:00 ifconfig defunct 3049 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 3053 ?00:00:00 kdesud 3253 ?00:00:00 xinetd 3457 ?00:00:00 gnome-terminal 3459 ?00:00:00 gnome-name-serv 3461 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe 3462 pts/100:00:00 bash 3499 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 3593 ?00:00:00 adsl-connect 3607 ?00:00:00 pppd 3608 ?00:00:00 pppoe 3656 pts/100:00:00 ps Now, httpd is nowhere to be found. Should it be there? Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to be as detailed as a newbie can be about my suspicions and my questions. =Paul How do I work this? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DSL and 8.1
I'm using Mandrake 8.1 and thouroughly enjoy it. I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com 3c90x) without a problem, but it gives me set up options that I don't understand: under the NetworkInternet - Connection settings of the Control Center, it has one section called Internet Access and another called LAN configuration. Now, I'm on a standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? When I try the wizard or the Expert mode, I can't get the thing to connect. I also tried Roaring Penguin's software. It appears to connect, but then I can't actually ping anything or use any of the browsers that come with Mandrake. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know what files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. Thanks, -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
--- Dave Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 19 October 2001 12:17, Paul Schwebel I'm trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. Is the DSL modem an external modem/router/bridge, or an internal card? I will assume an external DLS modem... This is an external DSL modem. I'm fairly sure it's not a router, since my PC, formerly WinMe, was responsible for a user ID and password. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the Mandrake Control Center. It detects my NIC (3com . . . standalone machine. Do I need to configure both of these to get to the Internet thru the DSL modem attached to my NIC? Just use the LAN Configuration. Ignore the other options. I will try this. Also, if this isn't too much to ask, I'd also like to know the _process_. That is, in M$Windows, I know . . . would want a real firewall in place to protect them. Your router is probably also set up to do DHCP for you (mine was, but I disabled it) on your internal network. Therefore, you can choose a LAN Connection, and simply tell Mandrake to use DHCP for your NIC. And that's it. The DSL router (acting as a gateway and DHCP server) takes care of the rest. Again, I will try this, but I think my DSL device is strictly a modem. When I was running WinMe, I had it configured for DHCP. When I first started playing with Linux, I had a SuSE 7.1 install that worked by using rp-pppoe, but I'm still so new at Linux that I don't know what else is required for the connection. When I set up rp-pppoe on Mandrake I still couldn't connect. If you want the nitty-gritty on exactly which config files are used to set up your networking, consult the networking-howto. Hope this helps, Dave Thanks, this is all very informative, -Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL and 8.1
--- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using a standalone computer, you don't need to setup any LAN settings. I'm not sure whay you would be having trouble connecting using the Control Center. Did you set the primary and secondary DNS numbers that your DSL provider gave you? Yes, I set those. Using the roaring penguin software, check to see whether the ping/browsing problem is ocurring just as a regular user or as root as well. It may be a problem with firewall settings. How would I check this? Also, as far as documentation, check out the man pages for adsl-setupand adsl-start. -Paul Rodríguez Thanks, will do. I'm wondering if I have to delete the LAN settings I already have (I have tried several different configurations options, so I think both ADSL and LAN are configured). On Fri, 2001-10-19 at 13:17, Paul Schwebel wrote: trying to set my up DSL connection. I have a hardware connection from my NIC(eth0) to the DSL modem on a standalone Linux box. I'm a bit confused by the set up process using the . . . files are involved in the TCP/IP configuration, and I know where to look. I don't have a clear idea of the same thing on Linux, and a lot of the man pages and HOWTOs appear to be written with a lot of *nix knowledge assumed. Thanks, -Paul Well, how did I get here? Schwebel __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
