Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-24 Per discussione SOTL
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
 k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
 tells you
 KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
 OK
 so whats wrong?

You open Kmail by opening Kmail.
You did not open Kmail by opening Kcontact first.

If you do not want the error message open Kcontact and that will take you 
directly to Kmail


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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-24 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 March 2005 20:29, SOTL wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 23:35, Aron Smith wrote:
  k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
  tells you
  KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
  OK
  so whats wrong?

 You open Kmail by opening Kmail.
 You did not open Kmail by opening Kcontact first.

 If you do not want the error message open Kcontact and that will take you
 directly to Kmail

Oh wow!
I've been googling for this error all my life. Thanks you very much SOTL.

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[newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that tells 
you
KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
OK
so whats wrong?


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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:35, Aron Smith wrote:
 k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
 tells you
 KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
 OK
 so whats wrong?
I have this error too. Haven't succeded with google yet.

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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:01 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:35, Aron Smith wrote:
  k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under that
  tells you
  KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
  OK
  so whats wrong?

 I have this error too. Haven't succeded with google yet.
do you have kontact installed I don't


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Re: [newbie] K Mail question

2005-03-23 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:37, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Wednesday 23 March 2005 09:01 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
  On Thursday 24 March 2005 11:35, Aron Smith wrote:
   k Mail is opening ok but when you shut it down there is a pop under
   that tells you
   KDEInit could not launch kontact-kmail.sh
   OK
   so whats wrong?
 
  I have this error too. Haven't succeded with google yet.

 do you have kontact installed I don't

Yes I have it installed.
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[newbie] E mail server

2005-03-10 Per discussione Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores
Hello folks,

I'm installing a web server, apache, and nowadays its running quite well.
The next step is to provide full email service for those domains (nowaday we
have two, zeti.net and kendersoftware.net). I've been googling for
documentation about it, and i found some options like Postfix, Sendmail,
Fetchmail and QMail (some of these are available through my Mandrake 10.1
PowerPack copy).

I'd like to hear some opinions about, maybe someone out there can help me
choose a server. Furthermore, I'd thank a lot if someone can provide me a
tutorial, docs, etc, on what I need for making this stuff work (I'm looking
at postfix.org docs 'cause Postfix seems to be reliable, but the material
there is rather confussing...).

Thanks for your time.
Best wishes,

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Re: [newbie] E mail server

2005-03-10 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Thursday 10 March 2005 19:06, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
 Hello folks,

 I'm installing a web server, apache, and nowadays its running quite well.
 The next step is to provide full email service for those domains (nowaday
 we have two, zeti.net and kendersoftware.net). I've been googling for
 documentation about it, and i found some options like Postfix, Sendmail,
 Fetchmail and QMail (some of these are available through my Mandrake 10.1
 PowerPack copy).

 I'd like to hear some opinions about, maybe someone out there can help me
 choose a server. Furthermore, I'd thank a lot if someone can provide me a
 tutorial, docs, etc, on what I need for making this stuff work (I'm looking
 at postfix.org docs 'cause Postfix seems to be reliable, but the material
 there is rather confussing...).

 Thanks for your time.
 Best wishes,

 Fernando Gómez.

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Re: [newbie] E mail server

2005-03-10 Per discussione Mikkel L. Ellertson
Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
Hello folks,
I'm installing a web server, apache, and nowadays its running quite well.
The next step is to provide full email service for those domains (nowaday we
have two, zeti.net and kendersoftware.net). I've been googling for
documentation about it, and i found some options like Postfix, Sendmail,
Fetchmail and QMail (some of these are available through my Mandrake 10.1
PowerPack copy).
I'd like to hear some opinions about, maybe someone out there can help me
choose a server. Furthermore, I'd thank a lot if someone can provide me a
tutorial, docs, etc, on what I need for making this stuff work (I'm looking
at postfix.org docs 'cause Postfix seems to be reliable, but the material
there is rather confussing...).
Thanks for your time.
Best wishes,
Fernando Gómez.
Well, if the mail is going to come directly to your system, then you do 
not want Fetchmail. It is for fetching mail from another mail server, 
and delivering it to your local system. Great for dialup users.

Sendmail is one of the oldest mail servers, and is probably the most 
configurable, but is also one of the most cryptic to set up. While it is 
a great learning experience setting to set up and troubleshoot, it is 
not exactly user friendly.

Now, when it comes to Postfix, and Qmail, they are both good packages 
for what you are doing. There have been long and heated discussions 
about the merits of each. I don't know witch is best.

I have configured both Sendmail and Postfix. If you find the Postfix 
docs rather confussing, you don't want to try and understand the 
Sendmail ones!

As Anne has pointed you to a great source of more information, I will 
leave it at that...

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Re: [newbie] E mail server

2005-03-10 Per discussione amala singh
Mandrake comes up with postfix already installed.
qmail is the best. Even yahoo runs in qmail.
google qmail or check http://www.qmail.org
or qmailrocks etc.
Cheers
Amala Singh
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Thursday 10 March 2005 19:06, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
 

Hello folks,
I'm installing a web server, apache, and nowadays its running quite well.
The next step is to provide full email service for those domains (nowaday
we have two, zeti.net and kendersoftware.net). I've been googling for
documentation about it, and i found some options like Postfix, Sendmail,
Fetchmail and QMail (some of these are available through my Mandrake 10.1
PowerPack copy).
I'd like to hear some opinions about, maybe someone out there can help me
choose a server. Furthermore, I'd thank a lot if someone can provide me a
tutorial, docs, etc, on what I need for making this stuff work (I'm looking
at postfix.org docs 'cause Postfix seems to be reliable, but the material
there is rather confussing...).
Thanks for your time.
Best wishes,
Fernando Gómez.
   

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Re: [newbie] E mail server

2005-03-10 Per discussione Fajar Priyanto
On Friday 11 March 2005 02:06 am, Fernando Arturo Gómez Flores wrote:
 I'd like to hear some opinions about, maybe someone out there can help me
 choose a server. Furthermore, I'd thank a lot if someone can provide me a
 tutorial, docs, etc, on what I need for making this stuff work (I'm looking
 at postfix.org docs 'cause Postfix seems to be reliable, but the material
 there is rather confussing...).

Right now I'm using qmail. There are many people out there who make a 
'toaster' for qmail installation. Toaster is thing where they put everything 
useful about qmail in one easy installation package/howto. Some that are well 
known are qmailrocks.org and qmailtoaster.

As for postfix. I'm interested in learning it. And like you said, the 
explanation is rather confusing :) Well, nothing to worry though. If there is 
a will there is a way, isn't it?
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[newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Paul Smith
Dear All

I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the above
mentioned feature.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Ian
On Friday 11 Feb 2005 11:39, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
 deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
 have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the above
 mentioned feature.
Kontact does that .

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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Anne Wilson
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On Friday 11 Feb 2005 14:07, Ian wrote:
 On Friday 11 Feb 2005 11:39, Paul Smith wrote:
  Dear All
 
  I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
  deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
  have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the above
  mentioned feature.

 Kontact does that .

How/where?

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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Ian
On Friday 11 Feb 2005 16:58, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 11 Feb 2005 14:07, Ian wrote:
  On Friday 11 Feb 2005 11:39, Paul Smith wrote:
   Dear All
  
   I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
   deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
   have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the above
   mentioned feature.
 
  Kontact does that .

 How/where?

 Anne
Click forward, the attachments show at the bottom of the mail.simply hit 
delete. Well, it does here..
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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Anne Wilson
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On Friday 11 Feb 2005 19:24, Ian wrote:
 On Friday 11 Feb 2005 16:58, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 11 Feb 2005 14:07, Ian wrote:
   On Friday 11 Feb 2005 11:39, Paul Smith wrote:
Dear All
   
I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the above
mentioned feature.
  
   Kontact does that .
 
  How/where?
 
  Anne

 Click forward, the attachments show at the bottom of the mail.simply
 hit delete. Well, it does here..

Ah, yes.  I've done that.  I thought the OP meant the ability to delete an 
attachment on stored messages.

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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Ian
On Friday 11 Feb 2005 19:27, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 11 Feb 2005 19:24, Ian wrote:
  On Friday 11 Feb 2005 16:58, Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Friday 11 Feb 2005 14:07, Ian wrote:
On Friday 11 Feb 2005 11:39, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All

 I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
 deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
 have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the
 above mentioned feature.
   
Kontact does that .
  
   How/where?
  
   Anne
 
  Click forward, the attachments show at the bottom of the mail.simply
  hit delete. Well, it does here..

 Ah, yes.  I've done that.  I thought the OP meant the ability to delete an
 attachment on stored messages.
A, no, I haven't seen a mailer do that.
Nice trick, though.
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Re: [newbie] E-mail program with the possibility of deleting attachments

2005-02-11 Per discussione Paul Smith
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:39:42 +, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am looking for a good e-mail program with the possibility of
  deleting attachments out of the messages. Is there such a thing? I
  have happily used Mozilla Thunderbird, but it does not have the
  above mentioned feature.

 Kontact does that .
   
How/where?
   
Anne
  
   Click forward, the attachments show at the bottom of the mail.simply
   hit delete. Well, it does here..
 
  Ah, yes.  I've done that.  I thought the OP meant the ability to delete an
  attachment on stored messages.
 A, no, I haven't seen a mailer do that.
 Nice trick, though.

I have just found out that Mozilla Thunderbird has an extension which does that:

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=281

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-26 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 07:26 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:17, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  On Tuesday 25 January 2005 03:24 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote:
  huge snip
 
   2) Install thundirbird
  
   urpmi mozilla-thunderbird
   http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010
  .1md k.i586.rpm
 
  snip
 
   Avi
 
  When I typed step 2 as root I typed as follows:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# urpmi
  mozilla-thunderbirdhttp://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thund
 erbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm
 
   I put in a space between urpmi and mozilla and got
  the following:
 
  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
 
  what did I do wrong?
 
  Andy

 Easiest way to do this:

 1. Go to:
 http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1//mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1md
k.i586.rpm

 ...which will start downloading the RPM.

 2.) Once it's saved, go to the place you downloaded it to and
 double click on it - enter in the root password and let the
 installation complete.

 3.) Wait a few minutes whilst the menus are updated - you might
 even have to logout and then back in again for the change to
 take on whatever desktop you're running.

 Voilá ! You're done!
 stephen kuhn
  Hi Stephen,
Before the file installed a message said it hd bad signatures. I 
clicked install anyway. 
(1) should I have not gone ahead with installation?
(2) what does bad signatures mean?
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-26 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:39, Andy Yankovich wrote:

   Hi Stephen,
 Before the file installed a message said it hd bad signatures. I 
 clicked install anyway. 
 (1) should I have not gone ahead with installation?
 (2) what does bad signatures mean?
 Andy

You'll be right mate. Don't worry about it. You'll get that error every
now and again with RPM installations. The error means basically that it
is an unverifiable installation package - you can always get the MD5
sums for them, but that's a PITA.

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-26 Per discussione Rick Kunath
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:39, Andy Yankovich wrote:

 Hi Stephen,
Before the file installed a message said it hd bad signatures. I 
clicked install anyway. 
(1) should I have not gone ahead with installation?
(2) what does bad signatures mean?
Andy

The bad signature error is usually because either the rpm isn't signed 
with a gpg key, or it is and you don't have the key.

There should have been something in the error message saying something 
like MD5 OK and something more on the key.

If the MD5 is bad, don't install as the rpm is corrupted. If the key is 
missing, you have no way of knowing if the rpm is legit. If you know and 
trust the site, decide if you want to install it. Usually there are keys 
to be installed for any repository doing much with rpms. If so, just 
install the keys.

The keys are there to make sure that no modified rpm gets slipped into 
your system under the guise an official or trusted one.

It doesn't sound like you did any damage. Just be sure of the source of 
any rpm you decide to install, and evaluate the risks from there.

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-26 Per discussione Andy Yankovich

 Andy,
 you can install any software on your system using Mandrake
 Control Center. The same dialog you used for changing the
 resolution but this time it's on the Software Management tab.
 But before you do read these following links:

 Here is a really good intro to installing software on Mandrake
 linux by, Zeb, although it shows screenshots of mdk 10, IIRC,
 it is still relevant.
 http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML

 another good link with screenshots of mdk 10.1 plus much more
 .. http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/configuration101.html

 And, Have you had a chance to look at the Community TWiki ?
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome
 Specifically this page titled:
 All You Ever Wanted to Know About Urpmi But Never Dared Asking
 Before
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi
 this will help you understand urpmi soo much more ..
 The TWiki has a lot more there also ..

 HTH some ..

 p.s.
 Anne I already added these links to the NewbieFriendly page 8)

Thanks Rick,
I will read all.

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[newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
Would someone please tell me how install Thunderbird. Derick gave 
me such great instructions on installing Opera, that I wonder if 
there is also an equally easy way to install Thunderbird. The 
more details supplied (i.e. step by step) would be very, very 
much appreciated. Maybe in a few months I'll get some knowledge 
and patience. Read and read and read but still don't understand.
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Dennis Myers
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:51 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 Would someone please tell me how install Thunderbird. Derick gave
 me such great instructions on installing Opera, that I wonder if
 there is also an equally easy way to install Thunderbird. The
 more details supplied (i.e. step by step) would be very, very
 much appreciated. Maybe in a few months I'll get some knowledge
 and patience. Read and read and read but still don't understand.
 Andy
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 02:58 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:51 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  Would someone please tell me how install Thunderbird. Derick
  gave me such great instructions on installing Opera, that I
  wonder if there is also an equally easy way to install
  Thunderbird. The more details supplied (i.e. step by step)
  would be very, very much appreciated. Maybe in a few months
  I'll get some knowledge and patience. Read and read and read
  but still don't understand. Andy

 Andy, do you want thunderbird, the mail client or firefox, the
 web browser?
 I would like both. Even tho I now have Opera on my system, I 
would love to tinker with both Opera and Firefox.

Re Thunderbird, I would llike that program also on my system to 
make it easier to decide between KMail and Thunderbird. 

Greed, Huh?
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Avi Schwartz
Andy Yankovich wrote:
Would someone please tell me how install Thunderbird. Derick gave 
me such great instructions on installing Opera, that I wonder if 
there is also an equally easy way to install Thunderbird. The 
more details supplied (i.e. step by step) would be very, very 
much appreciated. Maybe in a few months I'll get some knowledge 
and patience. Read and read and read but still don't understand.
Andy
 

If you run 10.1 then go to http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/ for the latest 
Thunderbird and Firefox.

Steps:
1) as root add the media source:
urpmi.addmedia eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/ with hdlist.cz
2) Install thundirbird
urpmi mozilla-thunderbird 
http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm

3) Install firefox
urpmi mozilla-firefox 
http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:

 Re Thunderbird, I would llike that program also on my system to 
 make it easier to decide between KMail and Thunderbird. 
 
 Greed, Huh?
 Andy

There is Evolution 2.0, Sylpheed-Claws, Balsa, Mozilla-Mail,
Netscape-Mail - and actually a slew of other lesser known email clients.
Evolution is probably already on your system - and it ain't all that bad
- rather like a clone of MS Outlook (Lookout!).

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 03:24 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: 
huge snip

 2) Install thundirbird

 urpmi mozilla-thunderbird
 http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1md
k.i586.rpm
snip

 Avi

When I typed step 2 as root I typed as follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# urpmi 
mozilla-thunderbirdhttp://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm

 I put in a space between urpmi and mozilla and got the 
following:

bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

what did I do wrong?

Andy



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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:17, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 03:24 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: 
 huge snip
 
  2) Install thundirbird
 
  urpmi mozilla-thunderbird
  http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1md
 k.i586.rpm
 snip
 
  Avi
 
 When I typed step 2 as root I typed as follows:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] andy]# urpmi 
 mozilla-thunderbirdhttp://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm
 
  I put in a space between urpmi and mozilla and got the 
 following:
 
 bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
 
 what did I do wrong?
 
 Andy

Easiest way to do this:

1. Go to:
http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1//mozilla-thunderbird-1.0-4.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm

...which will start downloading the RPM.

2.) Once it's saved, go to the place you downloaded it to and double
click on it - enter in the root password and let the installation
complete.

3.) Wait a few minutes whilst the menus are updated - you might even
have to logout and then back in again for the change to take on whatever
desktop you're running.

Voilá ! You're done!


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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  Re Thunderbird, I would llike that program also on my system
  to make it easier to decide between KMail and Thunderbird.

 There is Evolution 2.0, Sylpheed-Claws, Balsa, Mozilla-Mail,
 Netscape-Mail - and actually a slew of other lesser known email
 clients. Evolution is probably already on your system - and it
 ain't all that bad - rather like a clone of MS Outlook
 (Lookout!).
 stephen kuhn

Thanks Stephen,

Would you  please tell me how do I find Evolution on my system and 
especially how do I install it?
Many thanks, Andy


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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:29, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   Re Thunderbird, I would llike that program also on my system
   to make it easier to decide between KMail and Thunderbird.
 
  There is Evolution 2.0, Sylpheed-Claws, Balsa, Mozilla-Mail,
  Netscape-Mail - and actually a slew of other lesser known email
  clients. Evolution is probably already on your system - and it
  ain't all that bad - rather like a clone of MS Outlook
  (Lookout!).
  stephen kuhn
 
 Thanks Stephen,
 
 Would you  please tell me how do I find Evolution on my system and 
 especially how do I install it?
 Many thanks, Andy

It should already be in your system menus - under Internet = Email; but
if it's not, it's very easy to run either urpmi or rpmdrake and install
it from your CD's/DVD.

Example:

(as root)

urpmi evolution

...and sit back and wait for instructions.

Ditto with rpmdrake.

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Andy Yankovich
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 07:43 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:29, Andy Yankovich wrote:
  On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
   On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:

 It should already be in your system menus - under Internet =
 Email; but if it's not, it's very easy to run either urpmi or
 rpmdrake and install it from your CD's/DVD.
 Example:
 (as root)

 urpmi evolution

 ...and sit back and wait for instructions.
stephen kuhn

as root I got the following:
Some package requested cannot be installed:
evolution-2.0.3-1.1.101mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
libgnutls.so.11)
Continue? (Y/n)

Sorry to bug so so often Stephen, but what do i donow?
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione RickSisler
Andy Yankovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   Re Thunderbird, I would llike that program also on my system
   to make it easier to decide between KMail and Thunderbird.
 
  There is Evolution 2.0, Sylpheed-Claws, Balsa, Mozilla-Mail,
  Netscape-Mail - and actually a slew of other lesser known email
  clients. Evolution is probably already on your system - and it
  ain't all that bad - rather like a clone of MS Outlook
  (Lookout!).
  stephen kuhn
 
 Thanks Stephen,
 
 Would you  please tell me how do I find Evolution on my system and 
 especially how do I install it?
 Many thanks, Andy
Andy,
you can install any software on your system using Mandrake Control
Center. The same dialog you used for changing the resolution but
this time it's on the Software Management tab. But before you do
read these following links:

Here is a really good intro to installing software on Mandrake linux
by, Zeb, although it shows screenshots of mdk 10, IIRC, it is still
relevant. 
http://www.zebulon.org.uk/ICML0.HTML

another good link with screenshots of mdk 10.1 plus much more ..
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/configuration101.html

And, Have you had a chance to look at the Community TWiki ?
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome
Specifically this page titled:
All You Ever Wanted to Know About Urpmi But Never Dared Asking
Before
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi
this will help you understand urpmi soo much more .. 
The TWiki has a lot more there also ..

HTH some ..

p.s.
Anne I already added these links to the NewbieFriendly page 8)
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Avi Schwartz
Andy Yankovich wrote:
Would someone please tell me how install Thunderbird. Derick gave 
me such great instructions on installing Opera, that I wonder if 
there is also an equally easy way to install Thunderbird. The 
more details supplied (i.e. step by step) would be very, very 
much appreciated. Maybe in a few months I'll get some knowledge 
and patience. Read and read and read but still don't understand.
Andy
There was a strange problem with the mail I sent earlier.  This one 
should be correct:

If you run 10.1 then go to http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/ for the latest
Thunderbird and Firefox.
Steps:
1) as root add the media source:
urpmi.addmedia eslrahc http://www.eslrahc.com/10.1/ with hdlist.cz
2) Install thundirbird
urpmi mozilla-thunderbird
3) Install firefox
urpmi mozilla-firefox
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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 January 2005 07:43 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:29, Andy Yankovich wrote:
   On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 
  It should already be in your system menus - under Internet =
  Email; but if it's not, it's very easy to run either urpmi or
  rpmdrake and install it from your CD's/DVD.
  Example:
  (as root)
 
  urpmi evolution
 
  ...and sit back and wait for instructions.
 stephen kuhn
 
 as root I got the following:
 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 evolution-2.0.3-1.1.101mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
 libgnutls.so.11)
 Continue? (Y/n)
 
 Sorry to bug so so often Stephen, but what do i donow?
 A.

Let it resolve the dependencies for you.

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Re: [newbie] Thunderbird mail client

2005-01-25 Per discussione Mikkel L. Ellertson
Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 07:43 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
   

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:29, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 04:14 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote:
   

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 07:02, Andy Yankovich wrote:
 

It should already be in your system menus - under Internet =
Email; but if it's not, it's very easy to run either urpmi or
rpmdrake and install it from your CD's/DVD.
 

Example:
   

(as root)
urpmi evolution
...and sit back and wait for instructions.
stephen kuhn
 

as root I got the following:
Some package requested cannot be installed:
evolution-2.0.3-1.1.101mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied 
libgnutls.so.11)
Continue? (Y/n)

Sorry to bug so so often Stephen, but what do i donow?
A.
   

Let it resolve the dependencies for you.
 

urpmi --auto evolution


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[newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione JoeHill

Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 06:46 am, JoeHill wrote:
 Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...
We're trying to ignore you but
:-D

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione JoeHill
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:57:36 -0800
Aron Smith disseminated the following:

  Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...
 We're trying to ignore you but
 :-D

I'm on my way to setting up a dedicated mail and web server! Soon I will be all
powerful and impossible to ignore! DNS is next, watch out Internet!

Muahahahahahaha!!

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 01:46, JoeHill wrote:
 Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...

Always more than happy to ignore you JoeHill...(g)

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 06:09, JoeHill wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:57:36 -0800
 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
 
   Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...
  We're trying to ignore you but
  :-D
 
 I'm on my way to setting up a dedicated mail and web server! Soon I will be 
 all
 powerful and impossible to ignore! DNS is next, watch out Internet!
 
 Muahahahahahaha!!

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wednesday 24 November 2004 11:09 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:57:36 -0800

 Aron Smith disseminated the following:
   Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls
   ignore...
 
  We're trying to ignore you but
 
  :-D

 I'm on my way to setting up a dedicated mail and web server! Soon I will be
 all powerful and impossible to ignore! DNS is next, watch out Internet!

 Muahahahahahaha!!
The solution
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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione JoeHill
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:55:29 +1100
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

Just makin' sure I'm still able to post with my new setup, pls ignore...
   We're trying to ignore you but
   :-D
  
  I'm on my way to setting up a dedicated mail and web server! Soon I will be
  all
  powerful and impossible to ignore! DNS is next, watch out Internet!
  
  Muahahahahahaha!!
 
 Dang. Give a Canuck a millimetre and they take a kilometre.

Oh, you bet. Someday, every server on the Web will be under my control, and they
will all start like this:

?php
   if (eregi(MSIE,getenv(HTTP_USER_AGENT)) ||
   eregi(Internet Explorer,getenv(HTTP_USER_AGENT))) {
Header(Location: http://www.getarealos.ca/ie_reject.php;);
exit;
   }
?

Heh. I can dream, can't I?

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Re: [newbie] Testing Mail setup

2004-11-24 Per discussione Stephen Kühn
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 11:04, JoeHill wrote:
 
  Dang. Give a Canuck a millimetre and they take a kilometre.
 
 Oh, you bet. Someday, every server on the Web will be under my control, and 
 they
 will all start like this:
 
 ?php
if (eregi(MSIE,getenv(HTTP_USER_AGENT)) ||
eregi(Internet Explorer,getenv(HTTP_USER_AGENT))) {
   Header(Location: http://www.getarealos.ca/ie_reject.php;);
   exit;
}
 ?
 
 Heh. I can dream, can't I?

Er...dunnit take more than four brain cells to dream?

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[newbie] Re: mail problems

2004-10-21 Per discussione Russell W. Behne
Today at 02:59, Russell W. Behne wrote:
 As if I haven't had enough problems, now my postfix is broken. I was 
 using MandrakeLinux Control Center, and under server wizards, clicked on 
 ``Configure groupware''.  It installed a lot of software, and after 
 that Postfix was broken. I have removed as many of the rpms as I could, 
 removed and reinstalled postfix, and have gotten it to he point where I 
 can send mail out, but none can arrive here when addressed to anyone 
 @behne.us. I tried to send a message from Yahoo mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 and got this bounce message returned to my Yahoo account:
 
   Message from  yahoo.com.
   Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   67.21.58.221 does not like recipient.
   Remote host said: 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: 
   Relay access denied
   Giving up on 67.21.58.221.
 
 Does anyone have any idea what I need to do next to fix this? I've about 
 run out of ideas.
 
 BTW: since I'm no longer able too get mail from the list, please use the 
 Reply-to header when replying, or I won't be able to get your reply!!!

Ok, I haven't received any help with this problem in my yahoo box, so 
I'm assuming nobody answered. It looks like I've got main comming in 
now, but now procmail isn't sortting the mail as it should: every mail 
is getting dumped into my inbox. What do I ned to fix this?

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[newbie] Best mail Server for Mandrake

2004-10-18 Per discussione Ryan Raz
Hi Guys,

What's your bet for the better mail server to use...
in Mandrake 10.1



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Re: [newbie] Best mail Server for Mandrake

2004-10-18 Per discussione Miark
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:10:12 -0700 (PDT), Ryan wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 What's your bet for the better mail server to use...
 in Mandrake 10.1

Postfix gets my vote. 

Miark


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Re: [newbie] Best mail Server for Mandrake

2004-10-18 Per discussione David Johnson
I would say Postfix no matter what version of Linux you are using. 
Much easier to administer than SendMail.


On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:46:11 -0400, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:10:12 -0700 (PDT), Ryan wrote:
 
  Hi Guys,
 
  What's your bet for the better mail server to use...
  in Mandrake 10.1
 
 Postfix gets my vote.
 
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[newbie] Voice mail

2004-07-19 Per discussione Thomas Ewald
Is anyone aware of a good (and easy to install and use) voice mail/fax combination for Mandrake 10? This would be a system that answers the telephone, senses whether it's voice or fax, and reacts accordingly.
TIA,
Tom Ewald
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Re: [newbie] Postfix - Mail Sending Relay Problem.

2004-07-12 Per discussione Derek Jennings
On Saturday 10 Jul 2004 00:52, mark rogers wrote:
 Hi Team
SNIP

 Problem 2)

 The PC that downloads POP mail from the ML10 PC Is
 having trouble sending mail to the ML10 box. Keep in
 mind that people from the outside world (internet) are
 currently sending mail to it - just the internal
 network isnt being recognised. Here is the error
 message from the system logs:-

 ¨Jul 10 09:30:10 gw1 postfix/smtpd[16575]: NOQUEUE:
 reject: RCPT from
 gw1.orion-solutions.com.au[202.76.175.231]: 554
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied;
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP
 helo=192.168.1.3 ¨

 ideas?

 Thanks in advance for any help that can be given :-)

 Mark

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Your mail server is on 202.76.175.0 subnet while your client is on
192.168.1.0 subnet

Postfix needs to know that 192.168.1.0 is a local network and then it will 
agree to relay mail for that subnet.

In /etc/postfix/main.cf  set
mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8

and comment out any mynetworks_style parameter you might have.

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[newbie] Postfix - Mail Sending Relay Problem.

2004-07-09 Per discussione mark rogers
Hi Team

Still comming to grips with ML10, have hit two
problems, I have setup Postfix to handle 3 domains,
all resolving to the one domain. Postfix correctly
handles incomming mail to the correct user mail boxes.
I can also now download/fetch/get those mail messages
from another POP3 compliant mailer on another PC.
However my two problems are as follows:-

Problem 1) If, from the ML10 PC, using WEBMIN to reply
to an email, Postfix tries to send it but fails with
the following:-

¨Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
name=202.76.175.231.orionsolutions.com.au type=A: Host
not found¨

This confuses me as the DNS records dont have anything
like this, all I can think of is that its resolving
the  host name into an IP address then appending the
domain name onto it. If its doing this which conf file
do I need to look in to correct this behavior?

Ideas?

Problem 2)

The PC that downloads POP mail from the ML10 PC Is
having trouble sending mail to the ML10 box. Keep in
mind that people from the outside world (internet) are
currently sending mail to it - just the internal
network isnt being recognised. Here is the error
message from the system logs:-

¨Jul 10 09:30:10 gw1 postfix/smtpd[16575]: NOQUEUE:
reject: RCPT from
gw1.orion-solutions.com.au[202.76.175.231]: 554
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied;
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=SMTP
helo=192.168.1.3 ¨

ideas?

Thanks in advance for any help that can be given :-)

Mark

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[newbie] Share Mail Linux/W98 - T'Bird 0.7

2004-06-27 Per discussione Betti Ann Preston Smith
Hi!
I want to be able to share my mail/profile between W98 and Mdk 10.0 
version of Thunderbird 0.7.  I followed the procedure found at 
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html and succeeded,in Mdk, 
to be able to read the details of each of the accounts used in W98.  But 
I can not get access to the folders in each account and to the folders 
in Local Folders

Can anyone help resolve this?
Thanks
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[newbie] Injection mail into postfix

2004-06-22 Per discussione Miroslav Urbanovic
Hi 



I have postfix+amavis-ng+clamav on my mailserver.

Can somebody tell me, how can I inject quarantine or problem mail into second postfix 
that listens on localhost:10026. Amavis stores mails in quarantine (problems) 
directories and I need to delivery some mails to recipients.



I used FILTER_README from postfix documentation.



Thank You



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[newbie] Bulk mail program

2004-06-20 Per discussione Cezary Morga
I'm looking for a good bulk mail program to send my newsletter. It'll be nice 
if it could support constant width fonts... Anyone could help?
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Re: [newbie] Simple mail server

2004-06-17 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 06:08, Mark Annandale wrote:
 Hi Guys
 
 I recently moved from cable Internet to adsl and am about to lose the old 
 cable suppliers smtp services. I have been pondering over setting myself up 
 with a simple mail server, using my mandrake box. What I require is:-
 
 pop mail for 3 users
 smtp service for above
 
 I have a dynamically assigned IP address which I believe is not too much 
 problem using no-ip.com or similar, however looking at the gumph about 
 postfix and sendmail I'm not sure if I've not bitten off more than I could 
 chew.
 
 Does anyone have an easier solution for a mail server, or is there an 
 extremelly simple how to floating about.
 
 King regards
 
 
 Mark A

I still currently prefer sendmail over postmortem, er, postfix...easier
for me - but then again, I've been using sendmail for yonks so it's
easier for me - and using Webmin as part of the interface to the
program...then again, I don't mind manually editing the
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc and recompiling it...besides, so many anti-spam
packages work so well with sendmail...

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Re: [newbie] Simple mail server

2004-06-17 Per discussione Todd Slater
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:40:45PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 Mark Annandale wrote:
 Hi Guys
 
 I recently moved from cable Internet to adsl and am about to lose the
 old cable suppliers smtp services. I have been pondering over setting
 myself up with a simple mail server, using my mandrake box. What I
 require is:-
 
 pop mail for 3 users smtp service for above
 
 I have a dynamically assigned IP address which I believe is not too
 much problem using no-ip.com or similar, however looking at the gumph
 about postfix and sendmail I'm not sure if I've not bitten off more
 than I could chew.
 
 Does anyone have an easier solution for a mail server, or is there an
  extremelly simple how to floating about.
 
 King regards
 
 
 Mark A
 
 
 Mark,
   Before you do a lot of work setting up a SMPT server, make sure you
 are allowed to run a mail server on your ADSL connection.  Some ISPs
 block incomming port 25 connections to anything but their own mail
 servers.  Some also block outgoing mail servers, but you may be able to
 relay through their mail server.  You may have to do this anyway, if the
 IP block your ISP uses for dynamic IP address is listed as a dialup IP
 block in the SPAM blocking lists.
   If you can run a mail server, Postfix is not that bad a mail server to
 set up.  The default setup, with a couple of minor changes, will
 probably work for you.  The mail change will be to set up the relay
 through your ISPs mail server...

I used to use my Mandrake box for a mail server until I realized that
ISP's were blocking my mail because its IP is in a range of dynamic
IP's. Now I mostly use my ISP's mail accounts and relay through its
servers. Once I told postfix to use the ISP for relay, people started
getting my mail again. However, I think I still have problems with
people who use AOL and excite.

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Re: [newbie] Simple mail server

2004-06-17 Per discussione Mikkel L. Ellertson
Stephen Kuhn wrote:
I still currently prefer sendmail over postmortem, er, postfix...easier
for me - but then again, I've been using sendmail for yonks so it's
easier for me - and using Webmin as part of the interface to the
program...then again, I don't mind manually editing the
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc and recompiling it...besides, so many anti-spam
packages work so well with sendmail...
stephen kuhn - proprietor
I don't know - I find Postfix is easyer to configure then Sendmail.  The 
config files are actualy readable...  Though I have to admit is was fun 
tweeking sendmail.cf files...  (I know - modify sendmail.mc, and not 
sendmail.cf...)

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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-14 Per discussione Eric Huff
 I get one of these every time I post to the newbie list, and they
 all share the same common path. Here's the latest:
 
   i5DGIrO09036 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13
   Jun 2004 17:18:53 +0100
 
 I don't know who Andrew Cliffe is

He has been subscribed for a long time (i have an oldish copy of the
subscribe list).  Probably just a dead account, though i don't know
why my direct email didn't get bounced.

I just removed him, but if it is still a good account, he has an
email from me and he can get in touch to correct it.

I only recently reset my newbie account to recieve mail (just too
busy for awhile), so that's when i looked into this, but even then,
it took me awhile to get to it.

 As for the note from sympa, For further assistance, please
 contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], I fell for that. Never
 heard from the postmaster, nor has the problem been remedied.

Yeah, a long time ago, after i tried most of the emails listed in
the headers and got nowhere, Vincent hooked me up with Charles at
Mandrake (who i can't find anymore) who gave me sub/unsub ability
for issues like this.

But then i figured out why no one listens: those addresses get so
much spam. I had to just send them to trash.  That's why i put the
section in the weekly newsletter saying to email me for issues.

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[newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Johan Sch
Hi List,
been a while now getting this below.
Funny my mail gets posted , but this annoying message.
Kindly, any way to stop/fix/shoot or whatever this please.
Thanks

This is the Postfix program at host smtp.mandrax.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

For further assistance, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.

The Postfix program

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail forwarding loop for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***
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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Chuck MATTSEN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Johan Sch wrote:
| Hi List,
| been a while now getting this below.
| Funny my mail gets posted , but this annoying message.
| Kindly, any way to stop/fix/shoot or whatever this please.
Lots of discussion on this in the archives (comes up every couple of
days, it seems) ... easiest thing to do is to filter it to the trash.
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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Johan Sch
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:01:10 -0500
Chuck MATTSEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Johan Sch wrote:
 | Hi List,
 | been a while now getting this below.
 | Funny my mail gets posted , but this annoying message.
 | Kindly, any way to stop/fix/shoot or whatever this please.
 
 Lots of discussion on this in the archives (comes up every couple of
 days, it seems) ... easiest thing to do is to filter it to the trash.
 
 - --
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Thanks Chuck. Will do

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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Eric Huff
testing to see where it comes from, please ignore



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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Eric Huff
 testing to see where it comes from, please ignore

Ok, i think i know what the offending address is.  I sent a mail
directly, and didn't get a bounce, so i'll wait a little bit to see
if i get a response and unsub the address if i don't.

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Re: [newbie] Undelivered mail

2004-06-13 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 13 June 2004 02:40 pm, Eric Huff wrote:
 testing to see where it comes from, please ignore

Eric:
I get one of these every time I post to the newbie list, and they all share 
the same common path. Here's the latest:

Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com 
(host213-106-224-113.no-dns-yet.ntli.net [213.106.224.113])
by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C931C56A0C
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:49:26 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com ([213.106.224.113]) by 
jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
 Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:30:24 +0100
Received: by jigsaw-sbs02.jigsawfinance.com (Microsoft Connector for POP3 
Mailboxes 5.00.2195) with SMTP (Global POP3 Download)
 id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:30:23 
+0100
Received: from smtp.mandrake.com (smtp.mandrake.com [212.85.147.176])
by lml503.securepod.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5DGIrO09036
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:18:53 +0100

I don't know who Andrew Cliffe is, nor have I ever heard of jigsawfinance.com, 
but I have developed an intense dislike for both.

As for the note from sympa, For further assistance, please contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I fell for that. Never heard from the 
postmaster, nor has the problem been remedied.

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Re: [newbie] undelivered mail notices

2004-05-23 Per discussione Frank Bax
At 06:51 PM 5/22/04, John wrote:
I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting 
undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the postmaster at 
mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have posted and had 
replies and then received the notice. Help please
john

I also received a bounced message after my last posting to this list.  On 
closer inspection of the received headers, I realise the bounce did not 
come from this list, but actually came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 
My guess is this email address no longer exists and that this misconfigured 
mailserver bounces messages to the wrong email address.

Frank 



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[newbie] undelivered mail notices

2004-05-22 Per discussione John
I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting 
undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the 
postmaster at mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have 
posted and had replies and then received the notice. Help please
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Re: [newbie] undelivered mail notices

2004-05-22 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Saturday 22 May 2004 03:51 pm, John wrote:
 I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting
 undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the
 postmaster at mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have
 posted and had replies and then received the notice. Help please
 john
we have all been getting those You are a victem of SYMPA I don't know whatcan 
be done about it. there was a discussion on it about a month ago.


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Re: [newbie] undelivered mail notices

2004-05-22 Per discussione Margot
John wrote:
I am having problems getting through to the list. I keep getting 
undelivered mail notices. I have sent several e-mails to the postmaster 
at mandrax.org but have yet to receive a response. I have posted and had 
replies and then received the notice. Help please
john

This happens to most of us from time to time - the failure notices 
tend to arrive *after* the message is already on the list. If your 
messages are getting to the list, there's nothing to worry about. If 
your messages stop reaching the list, contact Eric 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and he'll sort it out for you.

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Re: [newbie] Exporting mail from Kmail - solved

2004-05-12 Per discussione rikona
Hello,

Sunday, May 9, 2004, 3:16:15 PM, you wrote:

J On Sun, 9 May 2004 14:24:51 -0700
J rikona disseminated the following:

 I'd like to move messages in and out of Kmail, but don't see any
 export function. Can I just select multiple messages, export as text,
 and then import as an mbox file?

After a bit of testing to make sure I didn't lose any messages,
attachments, etc, it seems that this DOES work from some other mailer
(not Kmail) if all the headers are exported with the text, AND there
are no extra separators added (such as  , etc).

J IIRC, this is one of those two-step processes. Moz to import mail, which then
J stores it in mbox format, which can then be read by smarter e-mail clients.

First, thanks to JoeHill and John Wilson for the replies. By doing
text as above, it can be done in one easy step, and you don't have to
go through Mozilla. I usually use TheBat for strange mail
conversions, as it can handle several formats well, both in and out.

J Doesn't KMail have an option to store mail in mbox format yet? EG

Yes, and it can be selected on a per-folder basis. But no mbox export,
that I can find, IF mail is stored in another format other than mbox.
Am I missing something?

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[newbie] Exporting mail from Kmail

2004-05-09 Per discussione rikona
I'd like to move messages in and out of Kmail, but don't see any
export function. Can I just select multiple messages, export as text,
and then import as an mbox file?

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Re: [newbie] Exporting mail from Kmail

2004-05-09 Per discussione JoeHill
On Sun, 9 May 2004 14:24:51 -0700
rikona disseminated the following:

 I'd like to move messages in and out of Kmail, but don't see any
 export function. Can I just select multiple messages, export as text,
 and then import as an mbox file?

IIRC, this is one of those two-step processes. Moz to import mail, which then
stores it in mbox format, which can then be read by smarter e-mail clients.

Doesn't KMail have an option to store mail in mbox format yet? EG

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Re: [newbie] Exporting mail from Kmail

2004-05-09 Per discussione John Wilson
On May 9, 2004 03:16 pm, JoeHill attempted to joke:
 On Sun, 9 May 2004 14:24:51 -0700

 rikona disseminated the following:
  I'd like to move messages in and out of Kmail, but don't see any
  export function. Can I just select multiple messages, export as text,
  and then import as an mbox file?

 IIRC, this is one of those two-step processes. Moz to import mail, which
 then stores it in mbox format, which can then be read by smarter e-mail
 clients.

 Doesn't KMail have an option to store mail in mbox format yet? EG

Yup. :-)

Always has, as far as I know.

ttfn

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[newbie] M$ mail in linux (continued) - kolab server

2004-04-13 Per discussione hugenots
about kolab server!

I found, I installed...

but I have one suggestion:
wouldn't it be nice to add kolab client too!?
or there is no need for that!?


force, my friend, is violence!
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R -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
R Hash: SHA1

R Op vrijdag 9 april 2004 10:52, schreef hugenots:
 but I found that Mandrake 10.0 will contain a full featured Kolab

R this is from the mcc on my system (MDK 10)
R Name: kolab-server
R Version: 1.0-0.16mdk
R Grootte: 694 KB
R Medium: update_source

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Re: [newbie] ms mail in linux

2004-04-13 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Tuesday 13 April 2004 12:26 pm, Tango Echo wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: hugenots [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] ms mail in linux

 Haiz newbie,

   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any
 way for linux
   users work with microsoft mail...

   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
I don't think that there is anything  __That _Bad___ ;-)
but if look and feel is your thing try Evolution

 
 force, my friend, is violence!
  hugenots
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 hugenots,

 Did you get any replies to this question?  Note that
 you had reply-to on so that if you did - nobody else
 saw them...  I'm interested becuase I face a similar
 issue.  I have a network running this same app, but
 have been unable to find any smooth way to port to a
 different Linux based email system.  I will probably
 try to implement OpenGroupware but haven't even done
 any testing yet.  Eitherway, MS Mail should bed
 dropped becuase it is so old.  Well, hope to hear back
 from you!

 Thanks,

 Tango Echo







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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-09 Per discussione hugenots
my tnks to everyone who came with his advice!

not speeking about my poor knowledge about instaling programms under
linux

but I found that Mandrake 10.0 will contain a full featured Kolab
server (http://kroupware.org/faq/faq.html)
as for now, it is not true, so I wonder WHEN???


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R -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
R Hash: SHA1

R Op woensdag 7 april 2004 18:27, schreef hugenots:
 actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
 make meeting requests...
 someting what outlook does over ms mail.

 so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
 and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.

R maybe this is what you are looking for..

R http://www.kontact.org
R http://kolab.kde.org
R http://egroupware.org
R http://opengroupware.org

R HTH.  ronald





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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-09 Per discussione Ronald
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Op vrijdag 9 april 2004 10:52, schreef hugenots:
 but I found that Mandrake 10.0 will contain a full featured Kolab

this is from the mcc on my system (MDK 10)
Name: kolab-server
Version: 1.0-0.16mdk
Grootte: 694 KB
Medium: update_source

HTH.  ronald
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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
 Haiz newbie,
 
   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
   users work with microsoft mail...
 
   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
 
 
 force, my friend, is violence!
  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ types of mail.
M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
software.

2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
and RTFM.

4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

Linux/*NIX are the original mail handlers from more than 30 years
past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
line...

How long have you been using linux now?

stephen kuhn - owner
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formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the
scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact
wholly unconcerned with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of
existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to
discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the
problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the
mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all,
one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different
way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, Cyberiad



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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione hugenots
you left my mouth wide shut :)



force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
 Haiz newbie,
 
   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
   users work with microsoft mail...
 
   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
 
 
 force, my friend, is violence!
  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK 1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ types of mail.
SK M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
SK software.

SK 2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
SK Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
SK popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
SK your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
SK default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

SK 3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
SK Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
SK and RTFM.

SK 4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
SK POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
SK and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

SK Linux/*NIX are the original mail handlers from more than 30 years
SK past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
SK line...

SK How long have you been using linux now?

SK stephen kuhn - owner
SK ==
SK illawarra computer services
SK a kuhn media australia company
SK http://kma.0catch.com
SK --
SK   * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *
SK   We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents
SK --
SK Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic
SK formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the
SK scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact
SK wholly unconcerned with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of
SK existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to
SK discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the
SK problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the
SK mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all,
SK one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different
SK way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, Cyberiad



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[newbie] ms mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione hugenots
Haiz newbie,

  I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
  users work with microsoft mail...

  and is there something like M$ mail under linux?


force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione hugenots
there seems some problem with this list!

I've made several posts because, I get bounce mail, and post go to
list realy slow...


force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:
 Haiz newbie,
 
   I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
   users work with microsoft mail...
 
   and is there something like M$ mail under linux?
 
 
 force, my friend, is violence!
  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SK 1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ types of mail.
SK M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
SK software.

SK 2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
SK Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
SK popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
SK your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
SK default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.

SK 3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
SK Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
SK and RTFM.

SK 4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
SK POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
SK and they work right off the bat. RTFM.

SK Linux/*NIX are the original mail handlers from more than 30 years
SK past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
SK line...

SK How long have you been using linux now?

SK stephen kuhn - owner
SK ==
SK illawarra computer services
SK a kuhn media australia company
SK http://kma.0catch.com
SK --
SK   * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer *
SK   We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents
SK --
SK Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic
SK formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the
SK scientific mind. The School of Higher Neantical Nillity is in fact
SK wholly unconcerned with what does exist. Indeed, the banality of
SK existence has been so amply demonstrated, there is no need for us to
SK discuss it any further here. The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the
SK problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the
SK mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all,
SK one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different
SK way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, Cyberiad



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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione frankieh
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:24, hugenots wrote:

Haiz newbie,

 I know this is unplesant question, bt is there any way for linux
 users work with microsoft mail...
 and is there something like M$ mail under linux?


force, my friend, is violence!
hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


1.) UNIX based mail and FIDO based mail came before M$ types of mail.
M$ types of mail are proprietary and generally not well written bits of
software.
2.) RESEARCH. Google is your friend. In linux you have Evolution, Balsa,
Sylpheed, Kmail and several other mail packages NOT including the ever
popular Mozilla Mail and Netscape Mail. Have you bothered to look at
your system? You SHOULD have at leat four different packages that come
default with your installation without making any choices. RTFM.
3.) Evolution is better than Outlook (otherwise known as LOOKOUT) and
Outlook Express (otherwise know and LOOKOUT NOW); dig into your system
and RTFM.
4.) You have the ability with a normal installation to have IMAP and
POP3 by default; if you want M$ style IMAP ability, install the packages
and they work right off the bat. RTFM.
Linux/*NIX are the original mail handlers from more than 30 years
past. You also have PINE, MUTT and MAIL available from the command
line...
How long have you been using linux now?

stephen kuhn - owner


I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup to
allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each other..
sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the forerunner to 
exchange..

I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client for.
He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via samba I think..
(clients looked at a shared directory on the server)
thats from memory so could be wrong.

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Re[2]: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione hugenots
uff...
thats what I had in mind, but as you said it was the forerunner to exchange..

and I would be very happy to find linux based system...
main point is not to forget about MS users.

actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
make meeting requests...
someting what outlook does over ms mail.

so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.


if solve this quest, it will be posible for me to persuade tom start
migrating to linux...


force, my friend, is violence!
 hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


f I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
f years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup to
f allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each other..
f sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the forerunner to
f exchange..

f I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client for.
f He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via samba I think..
f (clients looked at a shared directory on the server)

f thats from memory so could be wrong.






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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2004 5:27 pm, hugenots wrote:
 uff...
 thats what I had in mind, but as you said it was the forerunner to
 exchange..

 and I would be very happy to find linux based system...
 main point is not to forget about MS users.

 actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
 make meeting requests...
 someting what outlook does over ms mail.

 so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
 and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.

Exchange will do IMAP if it is configured to do so.
But it seems that is not what you want.


 if solve this quest, it will be posible for me to persuade tom start
 migrating to linux...

 
 force, my friend, is violence!
  hugenots  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 f I don't think he means like exchange or normal mail..
 f years back  I used to use a microsoft mail program which I setup
 to f allow people on the internal network to leave messages for each
 other.. f sorta like internal messanging system.. I think it was the
 forerunner to f exchange..

 f I could be wrong, but that sounds like what he is after a client
 for. f He might be out of luck, microsoft mail used to work via
 samba I think.. f (clients looked at a shared directory on the
 server)

 f thats from memory so could be wrong.

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Re: [newbie] M$ mail in linux

2004-04-07 Per discussione Ronald
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Op woensdag 7 april 2004 18:27, schreef hugenots:
 actualy, main features is posibility to share callendar, contacts,
 make meeting requests...
 someting what outlook does over ms mail.

 so I need the very server, mali client for linux Working like outlook
 and some kind of integrity with M$ outlook.

maybe this is what you are looking for..

http://www.kontact.org
http://kolab.kde.org
http://egroupware.org
http://opengroupware.org

HTH.  ronald
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[newbie] Checking Mail

2004-03-17 Per discussione Hoyt Bailey
Checking sending.
Hoyt

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[newbie] Netscape Mail

2004-03-14 Per discussione Lanman
Does anyone know what the CLI command is to launch netscape mail 
separately from Netscape - the web-browser? I'd liek to add it to my 
menus if possible. I'm currently using Netscape 7.1.

TIA

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Re: [newbie] Netscape Mail

2004-03-14 Per discussione Steve Kaufman






Found this on the netscape search engine.
http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=command+line+for+netscape+mailpage=1offset=0result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3D793dcdfcd68c865b%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D1%26amp%3BuserQuery%3Dcommand%2Bline%2Bfor%2Bnetscape%2Bmail%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fdeveloper.netscape.com%252Fdocs%252Fmanuals%252Fdeploymt%252Foptions.htm%26amp%3BinvocationType%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPResultsremove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.netscape.com%2Fdocs%2Fmanuals%2Fdeploymt%2Foptions.htm



Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03/14/04 08:33:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Netscape Mail

Does anyone know what the CLI command is to launch netscape mail
separately from Netscape - the web-browser? I'd liek to add it to my
menus if possible. I'm currently using Netscape 7.1.


TIA

Lanman













Re: [newbie] Netscape Mail

2004-03-14 Per discussione Lanman
OK Steve. My bad. Didn't think to Google my question first. Your idea 
worked. Did a search at Netscape and found the answer right away. The 
CLI command, by the way, is  /usr/lib/netscape/netscape -mail , 
assuming that this is the location for Netscape on your PC, which it is 
for me.

Worked like a charm. Created a menu entry and it's all good. That's 2 
problems fixed this morning. Now, I gotta get a handle on my World 
Peace project ! Trying to get it done before lunch! Grin!

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Re: [newbie] Netscape Mail

2004-03-14 Per discussione Steve Kaufman






Glad I could be of some help. You have helped me a couple of times and I really appreciate it.

Good luck with PEACE for the world. I sure wish Google had the answer for that as well.

Steve
Linux user number 344404
---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03/14/04 09:18:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Netscape Mail

OK Steve. My bad. Didn't think to Google my question first. Your idea
worked. Did a search at Netscape and found the answer right away. The
CLI command, by the way, is"/usr/lib/netscape/netscape -mail" ,
assuming that this is the location for Netscape on your PC, which it is
for me.

Worked like a charm. Created a menu entry and it's all good. That's 2
problems fixed this morning. Now, I gotta get a handle on my "World
Peace" project ! Trying to get it done before lunch! Grin!

Lanman















[newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione acid
mandrake 9.2
How do i send email as text and not HTML. I've looked every where in Kmail and 
can't find that setting.


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Re: [newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione bascule
i think you'll find that currently kmail does not compose in html but in plain 
text only
if you meant to ask how to compose in html then you'll have to specify an 
external editor but if that is the case please reconsider if html is 
necessary

bascule

On Sunday 14 Mar 2004 6:49 pm, acid wrote:
 mandrake 9.2
 How do i send email as text and not HTML. I've looked every where in Kmail
 and can't find that setting.

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Re: [newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione fajarpri
Quoting acid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 
 mandrake 9.2 
 How do i send email as text and not HTML. I've looked every where in Kmail 
 and  
 can't find that setting. 
 
On default, KMail uses plain text. But, just in case the HTML is turned on, 
you must turn it off in: Setting  Security  Prefer HTML than text. 
HTH, 
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Re: [newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 14 March 2004 08:05 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting acid [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  mandrake 9.2
  How do i send email as text and not HTML. I've looked every where in
  Kmail and
  can't find that setting.

 On default, KMail uses plain text. But, just in case the HTML is turned on,
 you must turn it off in: Setting  Security  Prefer HTML than text.
 HTH,
 Fajar.

Fajar:
AFAIK, KMail can only send plain text. The setting that you cite refers to how 
KMail reads mail. If it is set to Prefer HTML to plain text, then incoming 
HTML mail will be displayed in HTML format (fancy fonts, colors, yada, yada). 
However, if the box is unchecked, then incoming HTML messages are displayed 
in plain text, showing all of the embedded HTML coding. (Useful if you want 
to learn how spammers use white text on a white background.) KMail also 
displays a warning message allowing the viewer to see the message in HTML 
format.

Acid:
Your message _is_ in plain text, so fret no more.

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Re: [newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione fajarpri
Quoting Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Fajar:
 AFAIK, KMail can only send plain text. The setting that you cite refers to
 how 
 KMail reads mail. If it is set to Prefer HTML to plain text, then incoming
 
 HTML mail will be displayed in HTML format (fancy fonts, colors, yada, yada).
 
 However, if the box is unchecked, then incoming HTML messages are displayed
 
 in plain text, showing all of the embedded HTML coding. (Useful if you want
 
 to learn how spammers use white text on a white background.) KMail also 
 displays a warning message allowing the viewer to see the message in HTML 
 format.
 
 Acid:
 Your message _is_ in plain text, so fret no more.
 
 -- cmg

Thanks Carol!
I didn't notice that :))
Something across my mind though, if I want to send email in HTML using Kmail, 
can I do that?


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Re: [newbie] K-mail settings

2004-03-14 Per discussione acid
Thanks people: I got it sorted out
 Quoting Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Fajar:
  AFAIK, KMail can only send plain text. The setting that you cite refers
  to how
  KMail reads mail. If it is set to Prefer HTML to plain text, then
  incoming
 
  HTML mail will be displayed in HTML format (fancy fonts, colors, yada,
  yada).
 
  However, if the box is unchecked, then incoming HTML messages are
  displayed
 
  in plain text, showing all of the embedded HTML coding. (Useful if you
  want
 
  to learn how spammers use white text on a white background.) KMail also
  displays a warning message allowing the viewer to see the message in HTML
  format.
 
  Acid:
  Your message _is_ in plain text, so fret no more.
 
  -- cmg

 Thanks Carol!
 I didn't notice that :))
 Something across my mind though, if I want to send email in HTML using
 Kmail, can I do that?


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[newbie] Evolution mail client mail folders and saved email

2004-02-18 Per discussione Brandon Rife
Has anyone else experienced the Evolution mail client losing their email 
addresses and saved email?  This has happened to me twice.  Funny  thing 
is that Evo did not lose my mail account info so its not like my whole 
config was lost.  At this point I've switched to Thunderbird.

Thanks,
Brandon
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Re: [newbie] Evolution mail client mail folders and saved email

2004-02-18 Per discussione Aron Smith
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 07:35, Brandon Rife wrote:
 Has anyone else experienced the Evolution mail client losing their email 
 addresses and saved email?  This has happened to me twice.  Funny  thing 
 is that Evo did not lose my mail account info so its not like my whole 
 config was lost.  At this point I've switched to Thunderbird.
 
 Thanks,
 Brandon
yes I had it happen several times usually when I get about 2000 mesg in
a folder it goes nuts
 
 
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Re: [newbie] 'local' mail

2004-01-10 Per discussione Paul
I assume you have postfix/qmail or similar set up properly. You need 
that to get this mailthing done.
In the config for postfix (which I use), /etc/postfix/main.cf, you need 
to have your local machine name as a valid domain (docs inside the file 
are very good).
Do you send mail to user? If that does not arrive, try 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Good luck
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On 01/10/2004 06:44 AM, jimdawson wrote:

I am trying to set up 'local' mail on my Mandrake 9.2 box (i.e. mail
between user accounts on the system and for notification of cron jobs
running, etc. rather than Internet mail) but I can't seem to get it to
work. the 'mail username...' command works but when I run 'mail' to read
the mail I tried to send earlier it doesn't show any mail.
Can anyone direct me to directions on how to set this up?
 

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[newbie] 'local' mail

2004-01-09 Per discussione jimdawson
I am trying to set up 'local' mail on my Mandrake 9.2 box (i.e. mail
between user accounts on the system and for notification of cron jobs
running, etc. rather than Internet mail) but I can't seem to get it to
work. the 'mail username...' command works but when I run 'mail' to read
the mail I tried to send earlier it doesn't show any mail.

Can anyone direct me to directions on how to set this up?

Thanks.


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Re: [newbie] Mozilla mail filters

2003-12-09 Per discussione robin
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2003 14:15, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

snip

Ideas on the current STABLE release of Mozilla (1.5?)
appreciated. Time to get learning and learn how to install an RPM
or source from an external CD.
/snip

Hylton, Mozilla 1.5 doesn't come as a rpm, but as an installer 
(bin). No big issue to use, though. Just follow the README.

But be aware that you'll lose all the nice fonts, including the 
antialiasing ones. IMHO the Mozilla fonts are terrible. Actually I 
reverted to the Mozilla 1.4 that comes with MDK 9.2 as a rpm.
You have to scroll down the downloads page to find the XFT-enabled 
version.  That will give you nice anti-aliased fonts.

Sir Robin

--
Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia.
- Robert Anton Wilson
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



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