Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Riding With A Gun

[paul annen]

I'm going to chime in on this. About a month back I dumped my cbr in a sand
patch coming up to a stop sign. I did a superman over the handlebars, but
between my duty pistol and the kydex holster on my hip and my training I
walked away with a small scrape on my Palm and a few scratches on the
holster (wore a hole through my favorite shirt)... to this day I claim that
the holster prevented road rash and possibly bruising and broken bones...
On May 28, 2016 10:24 PM, "'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle
Lovers!"  wrote:

Very true

Sent from my iPhone

On May 28, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Kyle Munz  wrote:

One thing they don't mention is even in states that allow conceal carry,
it's best not to have a gun up against you. Especially not up against your
spine or ribs. If you go down, it could cause more injuries.


-Kyle

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 10:49 AM, 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk
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> https://youtu.be/HCkvvBm3320
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> Good article for you shooters among us
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Newbie battery tender question

[paul annen]

As a tech for a battery shop I can not say enough good stuff about deltran!
And as a bonus they are located about 30 minuits down the road from me...
lol great company,  great product
On Apr 7, 2016 3:10 PM, "'Hawaii Sean' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <
nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Jarod,
>
> I have the Deltrain Battery Tender Jr. on my bike I keep parked for 2 to 3
> months at a time.  It as a connector that can be left on the bike and
> plugged in when parked.  I had tried another non-name brand tender and it
> fried my battery.  I'm not a big name brand guy but in this case I'd go
> with the deltrain.  If you search on Amazon you can get it for about $25.
> It comes with both the permanent mounts you can put on your bike and clips
> just incase you want to put it on a battery to for a short term
>
> Search for "battery tender" and the top responses will be the Deltrain.
>
> Good luck - Sean
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:31:32 AM UTC-10, Jared Clifton wrote:
>
>> I just bought my first bike, a 1983 Nighthawk 650. Love it! I was looking
>> into hooking up a battery tender to it, and I have a question. I have a
>> Black and Decker charger that will go down to 2 amps and auto switch to
>> float charge, but it only has alligator clips (obviously made for car
>> batteries). I could buy a Deltran Battery Tender Plus and connect the
>> cables direct to the terminals, but if there was a way to use the charger I
>> already own, I'd love to. Is there a way to connect this charger without
>> removing the battery? Or, am I better off spending the cash on the Deltran
>> and making a more permanent connection to the battery?
>>
>> Sorry for asking a silly question. I am new to riding and motorcycles,
>> and a lot of this seemingly simple information is a bit challenging to find.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: battery, lithium ion for CB650sc

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Deltran is the brand thay batteries plus sells... only one I would
trust
On Feb 22, 2016 3:10 PM, "Matt Stanfield"  wrote:

> I really like my DelTran Lithium; it's small, too so that would leave more
> room for radio components...
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 4:15:30 PM UTC-6, shaypocoloco wrote:
>>
>> The 83 Nighthawk and others didn't work perfectly with lead acid
>> batteries and most owners probably trickle charged their CB650sc batteries
>> for the best service, but now there are lithium ion rechargeables and I'd
>> like to know the ones that have been used and in particular the largest
>> that will fit in the 1983 CB650sc. I would like to operate ham radio mobile
>> so the best quality is important.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: battery, lithium ion for CB650sc

[paul annen]

Deltran makes a great lithium battery available through batteries plus.
Expencive but great cranking amps in a light weight package. If your
running alot of equipment like ham radio I would recommend a second
radio
On Feb 15, 2016 7:08 PM, "'Hawaii Sean' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <
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> Ok I'm what we call in Hawaii Akamie - meaning I have to feel like I get
> great value for my $ but I'm not cheap just expecting a lot.  I have never
> believed that one battery is better than another.  The technology is as old
> as dirt and they all have to be the same.  So my brother in-law owns a
> trucking company and with his discount the high end Interstate batter was
> much cheaper than replacing with any other brand and the Lithium one I had
> in the bike.  This is an ST1100 that sits on the Big Island and was only
> ridded 4 weekends in 2015.  The batter was toast Thanksgiving 2014, that's
> when I put in the Interstate.  In the years that I have had that bike it
> has always been on a tender and I had to replace the battery every 9 to 12
> months.  I'm at 15 months on the interstate and the battery was still
> strong to start the bike.  It takes 3 to 5 minutes of cranking to get the
> gas into the cylinders on that bike and a bunch of cranking.  The
> interstate batter is still good and once the bike started is started every
> single time I hit the button.  So the short answer is my experience is
> that a good quality battery will last longer then the ion one.
>
> Aloha - Sean
>
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 12:15:30 PM UTC-10, shaypocoloco wrote:
>
>> The 83 Nighthawk and others didn't work perfectly with lead acid
>> batteries and most owners probably trickle charged their CB650sc batteries
>> for the best service, but now there are lithium ion rechargeables and I'd
>> like to know the ones that have been used and in particular the largest
>> that will fit in the 1983 CB650sc. I would like to operate ham radio mobile
>> so the best quality is important.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Addition to the stable

[paul annen]

I've been spoiled by the aprilia sr50... at 6 foot 3 inches tall and 300
pounds the aprilia is comfortable and impressively fast for being a 50cc...
but that's because it's a well designed liquid cooled 2 stroke
On Feb 4, 2016 11:51 AM, "EGrider"  wrote:

> You wanted convenience; you got it!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Extracting a bit more power from a 1995 250 nighthawk

[paul annen]

With my 99 250 nighthawk I put a larger sprocket on the back for better top
end (allowed me at almost 300 pounds to hit 70 mph on a good day)
On Dec 30, 2015 6:07 PM,  wrote:

> I recently purchased a nice 250 with 34,000 miles.
>
> I also (sorta) own a CD200  which is in a barn in Wales. It was a bit
> faster than the 250. I haven't visited it since 1995 so some impressions
> probably are through rose colored glasses.
>
> Has anyone in the group done any simple mods for getting  a bit more
> speed- w/o messing up the character of the bike or making it offensively
> loud. I may have the larger jets in my bench stock which is the result of
> almost 50 years of hoarding.
>
> I have several larger bikes for travel and touring but like the
> compactness for just doing 6 miles to collect mail.
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> Any suggestions appreciated
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2000 Cbr600f

[paul annen]

Spare engine is going to cost about $600, I worry about the condition of
the engine coming from eBay tho.
On Dec 23, 2015 11:37 AM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

> Well whether it is the oil pump or not blown out gears requires a rebuild
> IMHO as the bits of metal can get anywhere in the engine, destroying
> bearings and clogging oil passages. I'd look for another motor it would be
> cheaper than a rebuild and they sold allot of those bikes.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2000 Cbr600f

[paul annen]

That's what I was afraid of. But I wanted to check with the wiser men then
me. Thanks guys!
On Dec 23, 2015 2:56 PM, "Graham Rogers" <grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Overfilling with oil is a bad sign, I agree, it would mask a problem and I
> would suspect the blown out gears are related, perhaps the cause or result.
> Either way, it's a tear down as Allen indicates
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2015, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Spare engine is going to cost about $600, I worry about the condition of
>> the engine coming from eBay tho.
>> On Dec 23, 2015 11:37 AM, "Allen Thomas" <althomas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well whether it is the oil pump or not blown out gears requires a
>>> rebuild IMHO as the bits of metal can get anywhere in the engine,
>>> destroying bearings and clogging oil passages. I'd look for another motor
>>> it would be cheaper than a rebuild and they sold allot of those bikes.
>>>
>>> Allen Thomas
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[Nighthawk Lovers] 2000 Cbr600f

[paul annen]

Ok guys. I know I've been very vacant on the forum for the last year. Had
alot of stuff going on but I'm back on 2 wheels again! Picked up a
"running" 2000 cbr600 for a steal of a price and am slowly working the
gremlins out of it. The biggest regular problem is that the kid who had it
before me destroyed 2nd and 3rd gear, so I shift from first to 4th.
Inconvenience I know, but I can deal with that for now. I need more and
bigger lights, but that's happening as time and money allows my concern
for now is when I went to change the oil (after running it for about a
month) I pulled about 6 quarts out! When I put 4 back in (book says it
takes 3.5) I'm not getting the oil pressure light to turn off and it is now
tapping very bad (not an issue before I changed oil). Any ideas? How bad is
this going to be to fix?

Thanks guys, feels good to be home!
Paul

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Daisy chain my battery tender?

[paul annen]

Yes, you can run your 12v batteries in parallel no problem. I recommend a
heavier tender at this point.
On Dec 22, 2015 5:43 PM, "Tommy Hill"  wrote:

> I connect three together for a winter with no problems.  YMMV
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2000 Cbr600f

[paul annen]

I have not added the extra 2 quarts of oil, I worry about over filling and
blowing up the engine (had it happen years ago in a car). There is a sight
glass,  and on the side stand it does not show at all, but when leveled the
oil is well above the glass.

Only pic I have currently is to big to send, will try to crop and attach.

Thanks guys
On Dec 22, 2015 11:51 PM, "paul annen" <greenzer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From the day I picked it up...
> No, I have not tried adding more oil, I've had an engine blow on me from
> that.  And there is a sight glass, on the side stand it is not even in
> view, but when leveled it the oil level is way higher then the glass.
> On Dec 22, 2015 10:35 PM, "Javier Garcia" <jajgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul, first of all, you are breaking rule number 1: no pictures. Second,
>> regardless of what the manual says, haven't you tried just adding more oil?
>> If I remember correctly last time I checked one of those it didn't have an
>> oil dipstick to measure the level. Does it have a window to check the
>> level?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:29 PM, paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok guys. I know I've been very vacant on the forum for the last year.
>>> Had alot of stuff going on but I'm back on 2 wheels again! Picked up a
>>> "running" 2000 cbr600 for a steal of a price and am slowly working the
>>> gremlins out of it. The biggest regular problem is that the kid who had it
>>> before me destroyed 2nd and 3rd gear, so I shift from first to 4th.
>>> Inconvenience I know, but I can deal with that for now. I need more and
>>> bigger lights, but that's happening as time and money allows my concern
>>> for now is when I went to change the oil (after running it for about a
>>> month) I pulled about 6 quarts out! When I put 4 back in (book says it
>>> takes 3.5) I'm not getting the oil pressure light to turn off and it is now
>>> tapping very bad (not an issue before I changed oil). Any ideas? How bad is
>>> this going to be to fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys, feels good to be home!
>>> Paul
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Let's go camping!!!!

[paul annen]

I love it! I wanted to build a pop up camper on a small harbor freight
trailer to pull behind the goldwing
On Jun 15, 2015 7:55 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 You need to come to Idaho. People do it all the time.
 On Jun 15, 2015 9:03 AM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow!
   Could be wrong but I think you'd have to have a Class 1 license
 to pull a double bottom.
  -Joey

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 Thought I would pass this along. Now this is TOWING!!


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My grandson

[paul annen]

I can imagine how scarry that could be!
On Jun 16, 2015 1:13 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Had something happen today that was both cute and terrifying. My grandkids
 are staying with us this week and my grandson (who is 4) was begging for a
 motorcycle ride. I put him off until evening because of the 90 degree
 temperatures, but it finally cooled down so we headed out for a short ride
 around 8:45.

 Stopping at a stoplight I noticed in one of my mirrors that my grandson
 appeared to be looking down at the ground. As I pulled up to the light I
 asked him why his head was down and he said something about the wind being
 in his eyes. That sounded reasonable but I decided to keep an eye on him
 anyway. I pulled out from the light and hadn't gone very far before his
 head went down again. This time I was taking no chances. I reached back and
 grabbed his pants leg and found a place to pull over. I jumped off the bike
 and said, Hey bud, you can't fall asleep during a motorcycle ride! It was
 too late. He was out!

 I called my wife to come pick him up in the car. I wasn't about to risk
 riding with a sleeping 4 year old on the back.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Battery for an '85 650 Nighthawk

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A true battery tender will work with Flooded, agm, and gell batteries.
They are the best as far as I'm conerned. Battery tender also makes a
lithium that should never need changing (they claim 4 year shelf life)
they are the only ones I would trust, but at $300 each. ...
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 Well crap!  You are right.  It is too big to install with the tray, but I
 believe it will fit without. I measured my battery at 75mm wide and 80mm
 wide tray.  I will let you know when I get it.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB250 H6024 headlight swap question

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When I had my 99 250 and needed a replacement,  I would get the normal
round H3 bulb from walmart automotive section. .
On May 1, 2015 6:51 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't done that mod but I doubt any headlight bucket is rain proof.
 They always have a drain hole in them, and are rusty on the inside.

 Allen Thomas
 On May 1, 2015 1:30 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Welcome to the group Sam. Glad to have you on board. Yours is an
 excellent question which I will defer to those who may have done that
 particular swap.

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 On Apr 30, 2015 11:27 PM, Sam Spade aferling4ano...@gmail.com wrote:

 New NightHawk CB250 owner.  Just learning to ride so I don't have a lot
 of knowledge yet about motorcycles.  I read on Paul's website about running
 the H6024 headlight in place of the stock.  My question relates to the
 fitment of the actual bulb in the metal ring.  The H6024 bulb has three
 glass points that hit just inside of the inner diameter of the ring.  Is
 this normal or should they be ground down so that the bulb sits flush with
 the ring?  If not, does the unit then need to be sealed to help protect
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] starting issues

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For once I don't suspect the battery,  but it never hurts to get it
properly tested. I would look into the start button and solenoid. ..
On Apr 30, 2015 11:57 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Get the battery load tested, once charged bridge the solenoid posts to
 make sure the starter works. Then check and clean all connections
 especially the ones on the solenoid and right pod. Check and clean your
 engine and chassis ground points.

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the headlight isn't dimming when you press the starter I'd start with
 the button.


 -Kyle

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:04 PM, 'greentxnighthawk' via Nighthawk
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 seams like this is a never ending battle for me,stater issues,but here
 we r again...
 i rode my bike on sunday,fine no issues. go to leave for work
 monday,bike wont start. we have had a lot of rain as of late and i thought
 maybe the rain was causeing the issue,but its been  dry for a few days now.
 Still no luck,with it starting. It makes no clicking nor dose anything dim
 when i go to try and start the bike. is it posible the solinoid i replaced
 a year ago,has gone bad yet again??? or maybe something diffrent?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Battery for an '85 650 Nighthawk

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Did the batteries plus not have it avaiable or just not in stock? I was a
tech for then for years and never had a power sports battery we couldn't
find something to work (except a very old Indian 6v but I ended up
building him a custom pack for that!)
On Apr 30, 2015 6:13 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bikemaster sells one, just search for the yaushua part number +AGM. I put
 one in Ratbob but I've had to rescue the nighthawk with it so it will fit.

 Allen Thomas
 On Apr 30, 2015 6:03 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lithium needs a specialty charger, so there's that.

 MotoBatt had one that fit my odd sized VFR spot.

 Kurt
 On Apr 30, 2015 1:35 PM, Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the acid 12A-A battery, but it needs replacing.  Anyone know what
 size sealed battery will fit?  Or do you trust the lithium batteries?
 Batteries Plus did not have a sealed battery that would work, nor did
 Advance Auto.

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hard Bags for '96 Nighthawk

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Greg, I love the utitarian nature of it! In my mind beauty if function, and
that sounds like it's all function!
On Apr 28, 2015 9:42 PM, Greg gman...@msn.com wrote:

 I used L shaped pieces of aluminum to make my own. I replaced the shock
 mounting bolts for longer ones and put a long threaded bolt to go through
 where the rear turn signals mount. Those are attached to the frame. I had
 nuts to hold the long bolt in place where the signals were.  It was maybe a
 foot long. I'm probably calling it a wrong name, but any hardware store
 will have it. Then I made a flat bracket to hold the two pieces together to
 look like a mounting plate for a trunk. I bent the L shaped pieces to
 follow the curve of the rear end. That is why I used aluminum. Plus it's
 light. Once you put the hard bags on, you won't even see the brackets. I
 made my own hard bags from discarded street signs.  U,  pretty? Not me,
 sorry. But very useful.

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 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hard Bags for '96 Nighthawk

 Does anyone know of a solution to add fender rails or where to affix
 brackets for mounting hard bags like Pelicans on a '96 Nighthawk?
 I imagine it has been discussed here, but I have not found it yet. Thanks.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Looks like a decent deal

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But he still has the stock exaust
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 http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mcy/5001201289.html

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Just sitting here

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My 250 did not have a fuel guage, so I would fill up after 80 if I thought
about it, nervous at 120, never allow it past 150. And i still carry spare
gasoline even in my jeep (it's a MSR 20ish oz aluminum bottle with oring
seal designed for holding gasoline for backpacking camp stoves). I've
never had to use it on myself, but it has come in handy rescuing other
people stuck on the side of the road and starting fluid (pour small amount
on paper air filters and let the engine pull the vapors in)
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 That makes sense - Honda's don't break.
 Dave

 On 26 April 2015 at 22:14, john connolly lionjohnc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Omg. I was out of gas. Sorry guys.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tip for getting carb boots on and off

[paul annen]

A few people here have used a hair drier/heat gun to warm them. I've eve.
Hears stories of people boiling the boots to get them flexible enough to
put on. Also helps to use a ratchet strap to pull the air box back and out
of the way
On Apr 28, 2015 11:33 AM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Excellent tip Melissa! :)


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 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Melissa Hickson 
 melissarhick...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know this is a simple thing and a lot of you probably already know
 it... but the last time I pulled the carbs on my CB450, I found that
 leaving a hot work light shining on the boots for a few minutes first made
 them more pliable and FAR easier to get on and off without cracking.
 Definitely made my day better, so I figured I'd pass it on.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Down Under

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Very cool!
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 Wow, how cool.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Rode my first Gold Wing today

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I love my 86 goldwing 1200 and yes I have pegs on the engine guards...
pegs helped alot when I did the almost 1k miles in 24 hours
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 I love the way the Valkyrie handles. It is in the gold wing family. Almost
 bought one but did not have overdrive (6th gear) ABS was extra. and foot
 pegs seemed odd instead of foot plate. However it handled like a dream.

 On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 7:25:44 PM UTC-6, EGrider wrote:

 So I've been wondering if there isn't something else more comfortable for
 long trips than Ol' Yeller, and I went out to the local stealership today
 to have a look around.  I found a used GL1800 (2012) sitting there and I
 threw a leg over, first time in my life. Didn't feel that heavy or
 anything, though we all know it is.

 The salesman suggested I take it out, and I rode it for a half hour or
 so. Wow, I never thought I could feel comfortable on something that big,
 but it was great. The only thing is I immediately started looking for a way
 to stretch my legs, and the lower fairing was right there in front of my
 foot.  But I see there are highway pegs available; just don't know how
 they'd feel.

 I know you guys had mentioned GWs before, and I just thought they were
 out of the question, but I changed my mind today.  I feel like the heavens
 opened before me.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Rebuild gauge cluster, Done.

[paul annen]

As long as it's not chopped beyond the point of taking it back I think we
are all Intrested in mods that make our bikes safer, easier to Maintain,
better proformance
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 Yea no shame here. Most of mine are Graham's old parts bikes. Though he
 always gives them a bit of love. We just like bikes, that are done well.
 And I for one am always ready to learn something new.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Really neat russian all wheel drive off road bike.

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Shut up and take my money!
Probably a 2 stroker too
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Clutch/low gears rattling?

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I second the carb check for the idle issues...
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 If the carbs are dirty enough messing with the idle screw will need to be
 done when cold and then again once it warms up. As for the clacking I'd
 suspect the clutch. The cork friction material turns into linoleum after 30
 years then starts cracking and falling apart. Investigate the issue before
 riding more you don't want to get in a situation where you can't disengage
 the clutch.

 Allen Thomas
 On Apr 11, 2015 11:06 AM, nuevajohn johnaconnoll...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was out for a drive last night and had some unsettling sounds coming
 from my bike. When I go from higher gears to low, at stoplights and
 whatnot, I can hear some clacking and one time it was shaking bad enough to
 scare me into cutting it off and checking the oil...At one point it didn't
 want to go into first gear. I would say I heard this clacking sound about
 have the time I came to a rolling stop. It happens with the clutch
 disengaged. What is going on?
 Note: the day before yesterday I turned my idle screw up/in because it
 was shutting off at the stoplights. I turned it many (maybe 6) times and it
 only changed the RPM a little bit, but last night it was suddenly idling
 way too high and I had to turn it down. I don't know yet if that fixed the
 above problem because I turned into home a couple minutes later.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: my new nighthawk

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Major +1 to the battery tender
On Apr 11, 2015 8:44 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 That looks like an aftermarket solenoid already. BTW, check the wire ng on
 the new one. They sell them as fitting but I have gotten one that used a
 different pin out.

 Allen Thomas
 On Apr 10, 2015 10:55 PM, Raymond Gomez sirray...@gmail.com wrote:

 heres my poor relay switch. thats what i get for being ride happy lol

 On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:08:08 PM UTC-4, Raymond Gomez wrote:

 Hello all, i just purchased last year a 1983 nh 650, and i am running
 into a lot of problems,

 To get straight to the point, the previous owner attached an after
 market ferring to it(forgive me if i spelled it wrong) took off the signals
 and disconnected the headlight. Therefore i am stuck with a bike with no
 headlight and no signals. Secondly, the bike keeps draining the battery
 after one days running. I start the thing, it runs ok, then either stalls
 out when i am at a stop, then starts up again. I turn the thing off for the
 night, next morning i go to start it and it drains the entire battery
 trying to start it. So back to the recharger i go.

 1) I do not know what battery if takes( i need a part number on it) and
 even when i get that, what am i going to do to figure out if it is just the
 battery or a power drain.)

 2) where do i go to get the correct parts and how do i get the headlamp
 reconnected. ( all i have is a plug that went into the ferring)

 3) i purchased the clymer manual.

 So perhaps you all can help me figure out where to begin.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Gomez
 Grand Rapids,oh

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New set of pipes for 83 550NH

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I am currently installing air horns from ambulances on my jeep, scooter,
goldwing, aztek, golfcart and as soon as I can figure out how to power
them off my boots

Loud pipes are just annoying, they don't do anything except piss off quiet
respectful riders and neighbors.
The best way to avoid being run over by the cars that don't see you is to
assume that nobody sees you!
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 I diasageee to a certain extent. While running no baffles is seriously
 annoying. I don't think most people mind the sound coming from a VH or Mac
 exhaust, or for that matter modified stock systems. I use my exhaust sound
 in place of the horn because ppl know it is a bike and look for one instead
 of a dump truck.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: my new nighthawk

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Don't go cheap with the batteries ither.  Get a sealed agm (batteries
plus,  Duracell line is the best) and a true battery tender. That combo
will save you lots of money in the long run!
On Apr 5, 2015 11:23 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 It takes a 12 series.

 Allen Thomas
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 The clymer manual will have the battery specs you need.  I think mine is
 12v with 12 or 14 ah.  Walmart has inexpensive batteries.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] irritating clutch issue

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I agree with the thought that it has something to do with the master
clutch. My goldwing has a leak in the system, when I get those same
symptoms it tells me that it's time to top off the fluid.
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 Thanks for the input.  I was using 20w50 I believe. Ill try bleeding it
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] my new nighthawk

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Take your battery to batteries plus.  Leave it with them overnight to slow
change and properly test it. If bad they will have a replacement on hand
charged and ready to go. I recommend the sealed agm line, now they are
branded as Duracell,  used to be X2 power...
On Apr 4, 2015 3:08 PM, Raymond Gomez sirray...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all, i just purchased last year a 1983 nh 650, and i am running into
 a lot of problems,

 To get straight to the point, the previous owner attached an after market
 ferring to it(forgive me if i spelled it wrong) took off the signals and
 disconnected the headlight. Therefore i am stuck with a bike with no
 headlight and no signals. Secondly, the bike keeps draining the battery
 after one days running. I start the thing, it runs ok, then either stalls
 out when i am at a stop, then starts up again. I turn the thing off for the
 night, next morning i go to start it and it drains the entire battery
 trying to start it. So back to the recharger i go.

 1) I do not know what battery if takes( i need a part number on it) and
 even when i get that, what am i going to do to figure out if it is just the
 battery or a power drain.)

 2) where do i go to get the correct parts and how do i get the headlamp
 reconnected. ( all i have is a plug that went into the ferring)

 3) i purchased the clymer manual.

 So perhaps you all can help me figure out where to begin.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Gomez
 Grand Rapids,oh

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Lost Key: Conclusion

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That's about what I expected.  Just have to put the time Into the RR...
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] HELP!

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Idiot (kill) switch on the handlebar?
On Mar 31, 2015 11:33 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it in neutral? General question to everyone: if the main fuse blows,
 will the headlight still get power, or that kills everthing?


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Make, model and year of bike?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 31, 2015, at 23:01, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote:

 When was the last time it ran? You could try tapping on The starter when
 you press the start button. Have you checked the fuses?


 On Mar 31, 2015, at 21:03, Tyler Hooten tylerpathoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 First to admit im a novice on motorcycle knowledge, this is my first
 bike, went to start it this afternoon and it wont do anything. I still have
 power to lights and all instruments just when i hit the ignition button
 nothing happens. No clicking, buzzing, or any sense of the bike wanting to
 turn over. Initially i thought the battery might be dead. However my
 headlight works great. Trying to figure out asap since this is my only
 means of transportation. Any help or tips on what i should look at would be
 very greatly appreciated!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What are his options?

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I second the option of pulling the ignition or helmet lock and taking that
to a dealer/locksmith
On Mar 30, 2015 7:02 PM, James O'Gorman aspor...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I got my bike, it never came with any keys. It was from a police
 auction.
 All I had to do was take out the lock cylinder and bring it to the local
 Honda Authorized Dealership and they were able to cut a new key. There is a
 code stamped on the cylinder and they look it up in a book. Then they use a
 special took to cut the key. The tool was more like a hand held punch
 press than any other key copier that i've seen.

 The bike is an 83 CB650SC Nighthawk.

 The place was called Power Motorsports at the time. This was about 7
 years ago. Now it seems to be listed under this name:
 http://www.davidallenracingmotorsports.com/

 That is likely an easier option that drive the bike in circles all the way
 to the dealership :)


  - James


 On Mar 30, 2015, at 16:31 PM, Paul wrote:

 Man do I wish!
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 Ok, so the key is there in the fork lock!

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 30, 2015, at 15:12, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:


 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Then ride it until it runs out of gas?


 ​Actually it's worse than that! Before coming in the house he locked the
 front fork!!​



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: hiding a key on a '92 750.

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Another reason I was thinking inside the helmet linings. ...
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 No need to hack your Google acct. This is a Google group so all the
 messages are publicly searchable. That's we recommend that no one share
 their address or phone number to the whole group.

 -Kyle
 On Mar 22, 2015 1:47 PM, dh davidwhenn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been mugged twice before. Gun to the head, whole nine yards.
 Wallet, phone, keys, dignity, everything.

 The key is hidden on the bike as a last resort.

 I highly doubt someone is going to hack my google account and track me
 down so they can get their hands on my '92 Nighthawk with 82 thousand miles
 on it.
 But hey, ya never know.

 On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 11:02:11 AM UTC-7, Phil wrote:

 Keep it in your wallet with your house key.

 That way, if you advertise it the world on GOOGLE, no big deal.



 On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 11:19:18 AM UTC-7, dh wrote:

 OK, I zip-tied the key to the left fairing's upper grommet. Seemed to
 work out alright.

 I'm still going to try and find an eventual better spot but this is a
 good temporary solution.


 On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 7:23:31 PM UTC-7, dh wrote:

 I'm looking to put a key hider on the inside of one of the side
 fairings on my '92 750.

 My question is; what kind of glue or epoxy would you one use? I'm
 worried about accidentally using a glue or epoxy that might damage the
 plastic fairing.

 Any recommendations?

 Also, can anyone think of a better spot on the bike that I haven't
 thought of?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: hiding a key on a '92 750.

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I would go for taped inside the helmet between the lining and the
Styrofoam.  Or In the tool bag or in your wallet
On Mar 18, 2015 11:24 PM, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't seen one lately, but these used to be pretty common: A
 shallow weatherproof box which mounts to your license plate bracket and
 your license plate then mounts to the box.  Deep enough to hold a key and
 insurance/registration papers and lockable.  And generic enuf to not be
 noticeable unless you knew what it was and were specifically looking for it.


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 I'm looking to put a key hider on the inside of one of the side fairings
 on my '92 750.

 My question is; what kind of glue or epoxy would you one use? I'm worried
 about accidentally using a glue or epoxy that might damage the plastic
 fairing.

 Any recommendations?

 Also, can anyone think of a better spot on the bike that I haven't
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Electric

[paul annen]

I would check the voltage of the battery under load before replacement of
cables. A recharged old battery could be bad if it sat discharged for to
long.
On Mar 18, 2015 9:22 AM, john connolly lionjohnc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just bought an 83 550, it's my first bike and I love it! Yesterday morning
 I re-installed my freshly charged battery (13.6V), put the choke on and
 started her up. Sounded fine, so I ran inside to grab my helmet (wish I had
 stayed there with her). When I came back out a minute or so later,
 everything was off. The engine was off, no lights in the dash, nothing! The
 main fuse is fine, the other four are fine...Any ideas???
 Note: My battery cables look kind of rough and the small gauge ground
 wire(separate from the big one) looks like it's ready to break off(a bit
 frayed and old looking).

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] P.O.S 1991 Honda night hawk - $450 (Katy)

[paul annen]

I could work with that! All I want is an engine and title... Texas is to
far tho...
On Mar 9, 2015 12:40 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea, just passing along the CL ad I found entertaining. In my head I'm
 guessing it is a 750 but I have nothing to base that on.


 -Kyle

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:59 AM, nythawk night eaglehawktaw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Kyle, what size engine is it.


 On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 5:06:17 PM UTC-4, Kyle Munz wrote:

 This might be the most honest CL ad I've ever read.

 I am selling my p.o.s. motorcycle. Back tire is flat gas cap is missing
 turn signals don't work.
 It hasn't been registered in years and over all I would rate this bike
 as a 2. It has been laid down before but not by me, apparently some
 previous owner didn't keep it up right.
 The battery is shot and if you want to start it you should bring a
 battery.
 I haven't started it in about 6 months because of the battery. I also
 have aluminum ramps and a battery charger I will throw in.
 I am not willing to negotiate. It is a piece of crap and I already have
 an offer of $250 for the bike only. So don't be offended if I tell you to
 kiss my ass with any dumb ass offers.
 I do have the title and it does run with a battery that works.
 Don't expect I will take a check or that I will answer endless emails
 about this bike.
 Perfect condition it is worth $1500
 It will take about $600 to make the perfect condition happen.
 I would entertain a trade for a gun and nothing else.


 http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4921753816.html

 -Kyle

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Project thoughts?

[paul annen]

I like that idea!
On Mar 6, 2015 12:49 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it were a 1500 and had reverse I'd say do a drive train conversion on
 a Karman Ghia. Take a Miata rear end and make it a mid engine, with twice
 the HP of a VW 1600. Gut the car and put a tight suspension under it.

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:26 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Still have the boat, but not living on it... I have thought about a
 1200cc dinghy.

 Also thinking about offroad golf cart
 On Mar 4, 2015 7:12 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 You still on that boat? I'm thinking Goldwing powered dinghy!


 -Kyle

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Well, unless you're strongly driven to restore the Wing it probably
 best to create something new. The trike idea kinda sounds fun. Something to
 play with on the sand maybe?


 *Paul LeBoutillier *
 *www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/*
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:14 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It would need new plastics all around. Everything from saddle bags to
 windshield, new seat, new lights and lenses. All factory speaker grills 
 are
 broken, needs new radio head unit and clock (basically all new dash)...
 that would fix the cosmetic issues. Other then that new clutch sight 
 glass,
 rear break switch,  tires and maeby breaks. Carbs need cleaned and
 synced

 I bought it for $500 and then ran the hell out of it... what would you
 expect?
 On Mar 4, 2015 1:55 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Paul, what would it cost to restore the Wing to original? In other
 words, define A lot :)


 *Paul LeBoutillier *
 *www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/*
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers

 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ok guys. Here's the deal I have an 86 goldwing 1200, needs ALOT
 of cosmetic work and a new fuse block (caught fire on me 8 months ago 
 when
 I last rode it), and tires. I can make it run again with about $20 
 worth of
 parts, but it won't be pretty.

 I've been wanting a dirtbike recently (dreaming would be the Aprilia
 400cc), but I have also been thinking of building an off road/street 
 legal
 trike with the engine (florida I can keep it registered as a bike as 
 long
 as it's a trike), or I can use the engine and make a sand rail (would 
 need
 new registration)

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Project thoughts?

[paul annen]

It would need new plastics all around. Everything from saddle bags to
windshield, new seat, new lights and lenses. All factory speaker grills are
broken, needs new radio head unit and clock (basically all new dash)...
that would fix the cosmetic issues. Other then that new clutch sight glass,
rear break switch,  tires and maeby breaks. Carbs need cleaned and
synced

I bought it for $500 and then ran the hell out of it... what would you
expect?
On Mar 4, 2015 1:55 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Paul, what would it cost to restore the Wing to original? In other words,
 define A lot :)


 *Paul LeBoutillier *
 *www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/*
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers

 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok guys. Here's the deal I have an 86 goldwing 1200, needs ALOT of
 cosmetic work and a new fuse block (caught fire on me 8 months ago when I
 last rode it), and tires. I can make it run again with about $20 worth of
 parts, but it won't be pretty.

 I've been wanting a dirtbike recently (dreaming would be the Aprilia
 400cc), but I have also been thinking of building an off road/street legal
 trike with the engine (florida I can keep it registered as a bike as long
 as it's a trike), or I can use the engine and make a sand rail (would need
 new registration)

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Project thoughts?

[paul annen]

Still have the boat, but not living on it... I have thought about a 1200cc
dinghy.

Also thinking about offroad golf cart
On Mar 4, 2015 7:12 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 You still on that boat? I'm thinking Goldwing powered dinghy!


 -Kyle

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Well, unless you're strongly driven to restore the Wing it probably best
 to create something new. The trike idea kinda sounds fun. Something to play
 with on the sand maybe?


 *Paul LeBoutillier *
 *www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/*
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:14 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 It would need new plastics all around. Everything from saddle bags to
 windshield, new seat, new lights and lenses. All factory speaker grills are
 broken, needs new radio head unit and clock (basically all new dash)...
 that would fix the cosmetic issues. Other then that new clutch sight glass,
 rear break switch,  tires and maeby breaks. Carbs need cleaned and
 synced

 I bought it for $500 and then ran the hell out of it... what would you
 expect?
 On Mar 4, 2015 1:55 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 Paul, what would it cost to restore the Wing to original? In other
 words, define A lot :)


 *Paul LeBoutillier *
 *www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/*
 Honda Nighthawk Lovers Email group
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nighthawk_lovers

 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:31 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ok guys. Here's the deal I have an 86 goldwing 1200, needs ALOT of
 cosmetic work and a new fuse block (caught fire on me 8 months ago when I
 last rode it), and tires. I can make it run again with about $20 worth of
 parts, but it won't be pretty.

 I've been wanting a dirtbike recently (dreaming would be the Aprilia
 400cc), but I have also been thinking of building an off road/street legal
 trike with the engine (florida I can keep it registered as a bike as long
 as it's a trike), or I can use the engine and make a sand rail (would need
 new registration)

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear shocks

[paul annen]

+1 kyle
On Mar 4, 2015 7:11 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Suspension is one of those areas I wouldn't cheap out on, Besides,
 installing quality parts now is a selling point you can use later.


 -Kyle

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Progressive are about the best value you can get in shocks, save good
 condition cheap used ones.

 Any brand in particular you're thinking of?

 Kurt
 On Mar 4, 2015 5:17 PM, Jim Bolen jim.playofli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone have any experience with rear shocks other than
 Progressive?  I need new shocks, but because I don't expect to have the
 bike for more than a year or so longer, I don't want to spend that much.
 Of course there are a bunch on eBay, but I'm really hesitant.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New lithium iron batteries from Shorai

[paul annen]

That's right, forgot that they went to a Duracell label. Same line as the
X2 great choice!
On Mar 3, 2015 10:28 PM, 'mike21222' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Thanks guys. I ended up going with a Duracell Ultra at batteries plus,
 it's a standard agm type, but they actually give a 2 year warranty on them,
 I can't find anyone else willing to do that for a motorcycle battery.


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


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 From: paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com
 Date: 03/03/2015 8:22 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New lithium iron batteries from Shorai

 I agree with Allen here. I used to work for a battery shop and we would
 sell am batteries left and right (have one in both of my bikes). The
 lithium batteries are cool, but VERY dangerous.  If you were running a
 track bike on a track I would say go for it... but for a daily rider or
 weekend warrior your best bang for the buck will be a sealed agm. I
 recommend the batteries plus X2 series personally.
 On Mar 3, 2015 1:52 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some more f the guys on the VFR list have them. Personally the weight
 savings isn't worth the extra cost over an AGM battery. Also some of those
 LiPo batteries don't come with integrated charging circuits which can be
 dangerous. They tend to explode in a fireball if over charged. Not
 something I want between my legs. So to each his own, do your research and
 spend your coin. A wise man once said forget about buying parts to màke
 your bike lighter, and spend that money on track days and eat less.

 Allen Thomas

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New lithium iron batteries from Shorai

[paul annen]

I agree with Allen here. I used to work for a battery shop and we would
sell am batteries left and right (have one in both of my bikes). The
lithium batteries are cool, but VERY dangerous.  If you were running a
track bike on a track I would say go for it... but for a daily rider or
weekend warrior your best bang for the buck will be a sealed agm. I
recommend the batteries plus X2 series personally.
On Mar 3, 2015 1:52 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some more f the guys on the VFR list have them. Personally the weight
 savings isn't worth the extra cost over an AGM battery. Also some of those
 LiPo batteries don't come with integrated charging circuits which can be
 dangerous. They tend to explode in a fireball if over charged. Not
 something I want between my legs. So to each his own, do your research and
 spend your coin. A wise man once said forget about buying parts to màke
 your bike lighter, and spend that money on track days and eat less.

 Allen Thomas

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Project thoughts?

[paul annen]

Ok guys. Here's the deal I have an 86 goldwing 1200, needs ALOT of
cosmetic work and a new fuse block (caught fire on me 8 months ago when I
last rode it), and tires. I can make it run again with about $20 worth of
parts, but it won't be pretty.

I've been wanting a dirtbike recently (dreaming would be the Aprilia
400cc), but I have also been thinking of building an off road/street legal
trike with the engine (florida I can keep it registered as a bike as long
as it's a trike), or I can use the engine and make a sand rail (would need
new registration)

Any thoughts?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2 ea. CB650SC for sale

[paul annen]

If they were on the southern east coast I would try to make an offer for
both... just a bit far for me tho...

Looks like great deals tho!
On Feb 20, 2015 4:42 PM, Hanghank hangh...@new.rr.com wrote:


  I sent this information earlier, but was unable to include any pictures.
 Several now attached.

 Also available is the Harbor Freight support/move platform under the black
 one, and the helmets and jackets.

 I am interested in “getting them gone” so I won’t have to haul them 100
 miles, so let’s make a deal.

 I would sell the black one for $800.  It needs carb work.  I will provide
 a new battery.

 I would sell the red one for $1400.  It is ready to go but I would include
 a new battery also.  We can deal on helmets, jackets, , moving cart, etc..

 Any takers out there?  Any and all questions OK and answered truthfully.

 Gene Henry
 Appleton, WI
 920-731-0392


  *From:* Hanghank
 *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2015 8:17 AM
 *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Such a deal I got for you.

Deal of the day/week/month/year.

  I have two, TWO 1984 CB650SC M/C for sale.  I just turned 79 and
 purchased a new home in the north woods of Wisconsin – my “last home”.
  7 acres... small spring fed creek that plays the music of the
 universe for me... raise bees and a large garden...
 paradise for me.

  Won’t ride the bikes much, and can use the money.

  The Red One is the best, with 29987 miles.  Runs excellent.  Probably
 could use a new battery; about 4 years old.
  Always garage kept, all original decals.  Windshield, saddle bags, self
 cancelling turn signals, daytime headlight blinker, (irritating as hell to
 ride in front of, I am told) brake light blink module, excellent.  Sorry to
 see her go.  *:~(*

  I was not looking to buy this bike, but was looking online for
 replacement shocks for the black one, and HERE SHE WAS!
 Garage kept, dealer serviced, beautiful. *I am since divorced...* 
 *perhaps
 this was a (small) factor. ;~)*

  The Black one has 34655 miles, and has not been run for almost 2 years.
 Needs carb work.  Just got a new battery, not installed yet.
  Has been laid down, some gas tank dings.  Rear shocks are sticky,
 “newer” ones included.

  If I take them with me on my move and get them ready next spring, I will
 be asking $1800 for the Red one and $1200 for the Black one.

 I
 f seriously interested call or email me.  Take them both for $2400.  I am
 moving by Feb 28th.  They are in the back of the garage blocked with a
 trailer load of $h1T, but pictures of some sort could be taken.

  Gene Henry
  Appleton, WI
  920-731-0392
  ghenry
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 750 with pinstriping.

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I used to have a helmet that would match that
On Feb 20, 2015 7:40 AM, Jim Bolen jim.playofli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian-
 Not too bad.  Took about 45 minutes or so.  The nice thing is you can use
 an application spray to wet it down so it's easier to position.  I just
 happened to have some window film application spray leftover so I used
 that.  It was tricky around the gas cap (which I removed first) and the
 front of the tank, but with patience, it ended up nice and smooth.


 On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 7:46:37 AM UTC-7, Jim Bolen wrote:

 So I got a bug up my butt and thought a pinstripe down the center would
 look good.  Did it last night, and I gotta say, I think it looks really
 good!

 This is where I ordered it from, and I told him I wanted a medium silver
 metallic. Matches the decals almost perfectly!
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L00M35E/ref=oh_aui_
 detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1



 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TmlX19YNbXw/VOX22MJCHwI/Aic/a0kC-QUGXzs/s1600/Nighthawk750pinstripe1.jpg


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] need some pros and cons

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I have an 86 1200 goldwing and i love it. It is a tall bike, but plenty of
power and comfortable to cruise for hours on end.

The carbs are a pita to pull, but other then that a dream to work on.
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 So i found an 82 honda goldwing 1100 needs some work but over all good
 looking bike but i would appreciate some feed back as to parts easy of
 repair and such i will include the link below
 http://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/4854006222.html

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Mixture (pilot screw)

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There is a link at the bottom of every email to unsuscribe.
On Feb 15, 2015 2:57 PM, 'Joseph Letourneau' via Nighthawk Motorcycle
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 Please, remove me from the Nighthawk group.  I do not wish to receive
 e-mails anymore.  Went to the site to be removed, followed instructions;
 it’s not working.  NO MORE E-MAILS.

 *Joe (DR) Letourneau*



 *Equitant ad vivere, vivere equitare!Aspera ascensorem aeternum, aeternum
 aspera ascensorem.  *


   On Saturday, February 14, 2015 5:30 PM, Jeremy jman2...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Try to find a lower mileage parts bike and pull the engine.  Or find a
 used engine might be cheaper and faster.

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 14, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Oh, and it is like a paste.  Piston must be grinding down.  Now I won't
 ride it anymore for fear of failure.  Will start on the top end when I
 decide on and get parts.
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] deal of the year

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Wow if I had any way of getting it, I would already be on my way!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] ST1100 Fan blowing fuses

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I vote bad wire. Mainly because it's the cheapest to check and fix.
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 +1 I'd say you have a loose hot wire on that makeshift wiring job that is
 shorting out somewhere. Get a multimeter and check resistances on your hot
 circuits, they should all be low. You can check resistance on the fan motor
 as well to see how many amps it will draw, just google ohms law.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Anybody in SC want a deal on a 91 CB750?

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I wish I had the money I would pick it up this weekend!
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 Go have a look. Buy it now and sell it in May. If you don't have the cash
 right now, let me know it checks out and I'll come buy it and sell it in
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carrying Extra Gas

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Winner winner chicken dinner
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 Down Periscope.

 Hokey movie, but funny!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carb cleaner vs gun cleaner

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Yea, carb cleaner would be bad on plastic,  painted, or composite parts
yes some gun cleaners do have some light oils, hence my oil it well
comment. I also feel like the carb cleaner is stronger.
On Jan 19, 2015 7:15 PM, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 If his gun cleaner smells like licorice, it's probly Ballistol, which is a
 pretty popular product among shooting enthusiasts..  Though it's marketed
 as  a multi-purpose cleaner/lubricant, it's best use is as a lubricant and
 rust inhibitor.  Contains pharmaceutical grade mineral oil and isopropyl
 alchohol.

 I use it regularly to clean my pistols and as chain lube in a pinch but
 never to clean carbs.  Since it coats metal surfaces with a thin layer of
 oil, seems it would attract dirt.





 On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 2:32:28 PM UTC-5, kiwinPA wrote:

 Hey, does anyone out there know if the spray our son uses to clean his
 guns is the same as spray carb cleaner? He buys it at Dicks Sporting Goods
 for about $6 - $8 a can. It feels, smells and acts like the $2 spray carb
 cleaner I buy at Walmart,bGraham cle

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carrying Extra Gas

[paul annen]

I don't see a problem with using it do me a favor and paint a red
stripe on it so you don't confuse it for the scotch!
On Jan 19, 2015 3:57 PM, mark.wf...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was going to post this on the other thread
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nighthawk_lovers/K67iFohEpAw,
 but decided it could get long and silly, as usual.

 My wife and I recently bought a couple of these 64oz flasks for 75% in
 after Christmas sale.
 Ours are brushed stainless steel.


 http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-1792766/wembley-stainless-steel-overtime-flask.jsp

 I figure the pouring and filling may be an issue, but maybe it could carry
 the extra gas you need to get through a long mountain ride with many miles
 between gas stations.
 The ride around Mt. Rainier in WA is one of these. The '83 NH 550 needs a
 little extra for that one. We will typically be loaded up for an overnight
 stay somewhere, so small, easy to pack is the goal.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carrying Extra Gas

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”thins the mix, gives her an extra 50 rpm!”

{OK, the line was about whiskey... Anybody remember the movie?}
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 Scotch...hmm.  Wonder if that would make it faster...?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The map!

[paul annen]

Hey! I just saw that we have 2 members near me! Deltona and Genova
Florida... We need to get together!
On Jan 18, 2015 4:18 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found the map, but my pin had gone missing. I found it 70 miles off
 shore of Atlantic City. I guess I was sleeping with the fishes, see?


 https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=zpjD_s35KWaM.kHZ67oZ5jK_omsa=0ll=65.512963%2C-97.734375spn=93.0277%2C346.289063dg=feature


 -Kyle

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 Might be a good time to introduce the newer members to our map
 anybody have the link handy?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb cleaner vs gun cleaner

[paul annen]

I have used carb cleaner on the metal parts of my guns with no issues...
probably is about the same just make sure to lube the firearms well
after the cleaner has dried off.
Also try to keep it away from plastic parts (duh)
On Jan 19, 2015 2:32 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, does anyone out there know if the spray our son uses to clean his
 guns is the same as spray carb cleaner? He buys it at Dicks Sporting Goods
 for about $6 - $8 a can. It feels, smells and acts like the $2 spray carb
 cleaner I buy at Walmart,bGraham

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Adding oil on the go

[paul annen]

I usually keep a large veterinary syringe with a length of tube but not
something you want to be traveling/camping with
On Jan 16, 2015 1:13 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's a pretty good advice.

 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Hanghank hangh...@new.rr.com wrote:


  An easy way to add oil when traveling is to get a couple of the long
 necked bottles that hold products like gas-line-antifreeze, like Heet, and
 fill them with new oil.  The long thin neck lets you add oil anywhere with
 any mess.


  *From:* Melissa Hickson melissarhick...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:16 PM
 *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] volume of oil in CB450?

  Thanks everybody! I'll buy three full qts; the leftover can be
 consolidated into the mostly-empty quart I carry with me. I appreciate all
 the input!

 2015-01-15 10:58 GMT-08:00 Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com:

 Manual says 2.5 qts.  You can easily get two qts and use some of your
 extra qt. No need to carry a full qt.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Adding oil on the go

[paul annen]

I like the shampoo bottle idea... and filling the sealed trans on my
friends Tacoma was a HUGE pita... that's when I found out that trans fluid
takes days to wash out of your hair, but leaves it bright and shiney as
well as my syringe trick
On Jan 16, 2015 11:05 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've used an old, and well rinsed, shampoo bottle with the hand pump and a
 bit of hose to get oil into places where a bottle won't fit. Such as the
 fill plug on the top of the transmission of my Tacoma.


 -Kyle

 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I, luckily, have a lot of practice with adding oil in odd places with the
 usual narrow mouth bottles, but that sounds like a really good idea.

 -Kurt

 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:06 AM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I usually keep a large veterinary syringe with a length of tube but
 not something you want to be traveling/camping with
 On Jan 16, 2015 1:13 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's a pretty good advice.

 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Hanghank hangh...@new.rr.com wrote:


  An easy way to add oil when traveling is to get a couple of the long
 necked bottles that hold products like gas-line-antifreeze, like Heet, and
 fill them with new oil.  The long thin neck lets you add oil anywhere with
 any mess.


  *From:* Melissa Hickson melissarhick...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:16 PM
 *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] volume of oil in CB450?

  Thanks everybody! I'll buy three full qts; the leftover can be
 consolidated into the mostly-empty quart I carry with me. I appreciate all
 the input!

 2015-01-15 10:58 GMT-08:00 Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com:

 Manual says 2.5 qts.  You can easily get two qts and use some of your
 extra qt. No need to carry a full qt.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] volume of oil in CB450?

[paul annen]

I want to say that my 250 took 2, but please don't quote me on that... I
run the same oil in the bike as my jeep and aztek (she'll Rotella before we
get into the Mc rated debate) so when it's time I tipicaly buy 3 gallons
and just hold what's left for top offs and other projects.  Always good to
have some extra around
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 Hi folks, I know this is a silly question, but my bike is my only
 transportation. I wanted to be sure I have all the supplies before I start
 an oil change, else I'll be stranded! Does anyone know offhand how many
 quarts of oil I need for a change in a CB450? (1986, if that matters.)

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] My new ride!

[paul annen]

I recommend the washer shim mod to ANYBODY who is already breaking down the
carbs.
Factory they are jetted VERY lean, more fuel (to a point) is more power.

Kind of unrelated, but I had a modern 2.5hp 4 stroke outboard burn a hole
in the cylinder wall because it was factory jetted to lean, just wasent
ment to be rum like I ran it. Under More Investigation Simply Changing the
jets would have given me at least another hp. That's the only difference
between the merc. 2.5 and 3.5... lesson learned
On Jan 15, 2015 5:53 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 You have to remove the idle mixture screws if you want to get the idle
 passages clean. Dont feel bad it took me three soaks in chem dip and
 stealing the best parts from 3 racks of carbs before I got my GS sorted.
 I've probably pulled those carbs 10 times by now.

 Allen Thomas
 On Jan 14, 2015 5:23 PM, Tommy Hill ominbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 So here is what it has needed so far:

 Idles, but that is it.  #1-2 exhaust pipes cold.
 Seafoam it.  Now won't start at all.
 Replace coils, THEN realize it would be 1 and 3 cold if one bad coil.
 Change all the gas. Still wouldn't start.
 Swap carbs with recently cleaned set.  Not very clean, broken choke
 valve (plastic) cap nut, loose screws (found only after installed). New
 fuel line.  Still won't start. Not getting fuel.
 Swap out fuel petcock. Still won't start and petcock leaking from the
 lever.  (Anyone know if this is fixable?). Back to original petcock but
 changed the vacuum part.  It was stuck closed.  Now getting fuel.
 Starts!!  Yeah.  Step back to enjoy my handy work.  Leaking fuel like
 crazy. Crap.  One exhaust pipe cold.
 Fuel coming from the rail. Dammit. Carbs off again.  (We all know how
 hard THAT IS!)
 Doing it right this time.  O-rings are literally in pieces.  Decide to
 completely rebuild and clean.
 Looking great so far.  No extra parts and two more carbs to put back
 together.  Now works gets in the way. Hope to finish Tuesday.

 Any advice on setting up the linkages?  Especially the two small springs
 that link the butterfly valves.  I am not gonna touch the factory set mix
 screws.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 50 cc 2 stroke

[paul annen]

Thanks. I'll post pics when I finally get it set up!
On Jan 4, 2015 10:29 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well Paul I did some looking into the math to try and figure it out. I
 found that your engine can flow a max of 16.2 CFM at 85% VE. The troubles
 is figuring out the flow rate of metric carb sizes. I did find this:
 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/engine-conversions-92/839599-formula-calculating-carb-size.html
 . According to that post your 27mm carb is right sized for WOT @ 22k RPM.
 So I'd check out the aprilla forum and find what jetting to use on that
 setup with a free flowing filter and exhaust.

 Allen Thomas
 On Jan 4, 2015 12:01 AM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 All good concerns,  this engine is set up to take a max 27mm carb and
 turn 22 rpm (love the 2 strokes!) Not sure of the math on that but I'm sure
 the flow from the twin 7mm is much less.

 This scooter will do 102 mph with the 27mm carb, performance exaust,
 80cc big bore kit, and a change in the weights and springs of the cv
 transmission.  That does put it at the 22k rpm...

 I swear Aprilia is itilian for hey y ' all watch this!
 On Jan 3, 2015 8:02 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 In my experience with street racing the cfm flow of your carbs can
 greatly affect performance both good and bad. For instance on a 350ci motor
 a holly 650 will out perform a 750 in all but the most highly built 1/4
 mule race engines. Because a 350ci motor can't flow that many cfm unless it
 is spinning above 8k rpm. So on a door slammer going with the smaller carb
 will give much better throttle response. So my advice is to do the math.
 Figure out how many cfm your motor can flow at the desired rpm then figure
 out what mm carb is appropriate. Too small of a carb and you will restrict
 top end flow and loose top speed. Also there can be a lot gained on those
 type of setups by playing with the pullies and weights for the CV setup. I
 like the leaf blower idea personally. Positive pressure negates consernes
 about carb sizes. Just be sure to jet for it and retard the ignition timing.

 Allen Thomas
 On Jan 2, 2015 7:07 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, question to all of my engineer friends.

 So, I want to increase the performance of my 99 Aprilia sr50. Factory
 it comes with a 7mm carb, you can go up to 19mm before an exaust mod is
 needed. Aftermarket carbs are expencive,  but factory ones are cheap my
 question is this, is there any issues with putting 2 (or 3) factory carbs
 on a manifold setup (yes, I would have some fabrication work to get the
 linkage to work right) for this 50cc single cylinder engine?

 Later possible upgrades include
 more carbs (it will handle up to 27mm)
 Performance exaust
 Electric turbo (12v leaf blower puts out 10 times the volume I need,
 but only would give about 8 pounds of boost)

 Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?

 Thanks guys
 The yeti

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[Nighthawk Lovers] The map!

[paul annen]

Might be a good time to introduce the newer members to our map anybody
have the link handy?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Mystery Fuel Leak- Update

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I'm in sanford fl
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 Where in S FL?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Clock

[paul annen]

My 86 goldwing has a factory clock in the dash... but after years in the
sun and rain it's so faded I can't see it... I've never even tried to set
it.. radio used to get one Mexican station till I broke it!
On Jan 2, 2015 12:06 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Left is a fuel gauge and right is the gear indicator. On the bottom-right
 was a volt meter I had temporarily ziptied to the handlebar. My charging
 gremlins have been exorcised so it's not there anymore.


 -Kyle

 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 11:03 AM, pa_s...@verizon.net wrote:

  I've used the exact same set up as you Kyle.  I've never seen a 700s
 dash.  I see there are 2 small gauges on each side of the speedo  tach.
 Are they oil pressure  voltage?  What's that other gauge by your throttle?

 Bernie-


 On 01/02/15, Kyle Munz wrote:


 My handlebar mounted Time-O-Meter is simply the cheapest waterproof watch
 I can find at WalMart attached to the handlebar using its own wrist strap.
 They usually last 3-4 years then I spend another $10 for a new one.

 ?




 -Kyle


 On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 As a regular commuter by bike, a clock is essential to me. Usually I just
 put my phone in the RAM grip and put it in desktop mode, but this might be
 a nice option.


 Kurt


 On Jan 2, 2015 9:16 AM, 'Rmj' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
 nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com wrote:








 True. At the time of purchase, I was riding my bike for work 
 everything. So, I needed to know if I had enough time to stop  have a
 Starbucks after I got off work  my counseling duties that started at 6pm.

 Thank you,

 Ross



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 Now see! There's the problem. When you go for a ride, there should be no
 consideration for time. Just you, the road, and the machine!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] 50 cc 2 stroke

[paul annen]

Ok, question to all of my engineer friends.

So, I want to increase the performance of my 99 Aprilia sr50. Factory it
comes with a 7mm carb, you can go up to 19mm before an exaust mod is
needed. Aftermarket carbs are expencive,  but factory ones are cheap my
question is this, is there any issues with putting 2 (or 3) factory carbs
on a manifold setup (yes, I would have some fabrication work to get the
linkage to work right) for this 50cc single cylinder engine?

Later possible upgrades include
more carbs (it will handle up to 27mm)
Performance exaust
Electric turbo (12v leaf blower puts out 10 times the volume I need, but
only would give about 8 pounds of boost)

Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?

Thanks guys
The yeti

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not bike related

[paul annen]

Don't tempt me! Just need the space to practice. .. and a semi auto shotgun
so I don't need to pump in between shots
On Dec 30, 2014 8:50 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now all you have to do is figure out how to do that while riding a bike.


 -Kyle

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 This is how I spent my Monday off!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not bike related

[paul annen]

That shotgun is very rare and expencive rather go with the M2 auto...
or a full auto saiga!
On Jan 1, 2015 8:53 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just get a lever action and twirl it around between shots like Arnold in
 T2.

 -Kyle
 On Jan 1, 2015 7:51 PM, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't tempt me! Just need the space to practice. .. and a semi auto
 shotgun so I don't need to pump in between shots
 On Dec 30, 2014 8:50 AM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now all you have to do is figure out how to do that while riding a bike.


 -Kyle

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 This is how I spent my Monday off!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Two Intersecting hobbies :-)

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Custom painted engineer hat helmet?

Intresting tho. I like it!
On Dec 23, 2014 6:39 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Simple - I tape the engineers hat to the top of the helmet! Problem solved!
-Joey

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 Oh man, I'm torn. You should always wear a helmet, but in this case I'd
 be compelled to wear a engineer's hat.


 -Kyle

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 All,
  Someone really needs to talk me out of combining my two hobbies
 on this one. :-)
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wanted... Parts for 85 cb650sc

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Test pic came through. .. but it would bug me to not have the correct
charger over the drill... other then that it looks nice
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] V-Twin Nighthawk

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My buddy had an 88 shadow 600cc... I liked it, rather smooth,  decent pep.
Not great for long highway runs, but awesome for around town. My biggest
complaint is that because of the shape of the seat you can't pass gass
while riding.
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 Mm, I don't really remember, none that I remember

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 How is the vibration?

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 i have Allen, great little bike , plenty of pep, Graham

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 While I've never ridden a 600 shadow, I'd have to imagine they are a
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Anyone near Amarillo and looking for a project?

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If it was local here in Florida I would take it on
On Dec 4, 2014 2:36 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 You could sell $500 in parts off of it if necessary.

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 It's hard to tell what a bike is worth when it's missing the starter,
 battery, and petcock. $500 could be a steal, or a bust.


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Dogs on motorcycles

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I've been trying to find that video.. they play it at the mall I work all
the time
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 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=816147231778676video_source=pages_finch_main_video


  In a message dated 12/2/2014 2:50:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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 I love the doggy helmet, LOL!

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 melissarhick...@gmail.com wrote:

 RE: Dogs on motorcycles

 For some reason I can't respond to Joey's post...

 Anyway, just thought I'd chime in. This is my dog and my ex. She was used
 to being around running bikes and had ridden a lot in a convertible, so she
 took to the sidecar really well. He took out the seat and put a dog bed
 inside. He also took a doggie seatbelt (meant for cars) and attached it so
 she can't jump out. Of course they had to have matching goggles. :)

 At first he just encouraged her (read: treats) to jump in the sidecar. He
 let her get out whenever she wanted. Later they would do it while the bike
 was running. Then he buckled her in and took her on a little ride.
 Absolutely no drama. The hardest part was convincing her to wear the
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New 2014 Kawasaki Versus 650 for $6205 Kelly Blue Book

[paul annen]

I kind of like the wild west of craigslist... yes there's alot of crap out
there,  but there are a few Diamonds in the rough too
On Nov 30, 2014 8:33 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Too bad they are so horribly ugly bikes. Everything I've read about them
 is that they are a great all around bike.

 Allen Thomas
 On Nov 29, 2014 6:47 PM, Phil bailey.phi...@gmail.com wrote:


 2015 model shown above.

 No wonder all 2014's are sold out at local dealer. These bikes are
 upright torque monsters with high tech suspension. I can't afford any of
 the other big 4 Japanese new bikes, and this one is quite a package (that I
 can actually ride without going into cramp-convulsions.) With military,
 model, and other discounts, the 2015 retail price comes down to Kelly Blue
 Book price any way. Those bandits with no integrity selling high-priced
 used piles-of-junk with dry-rot tires are going to be waiting a long time.
 Go Kawasaki!


 http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/kawasaki/versys-abs/2014-kawasaki-versys-abs/suggestedretailvalue/

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A different reason to get an Electric bike....

[paul annen]

I would love a decently powered electric bike to commute on! It needs to be
able to get to 60 mph quickly in order to do one stretch safely,  other
then that my 4 mile commute is 30 mph max and my scooter does that
perfectly! And I still have my goldwing for the long weekend trips... same
with an electric, commute on the gas saver, cruise in comfort. Why do we
need one bike to fit every roll when you can have one for each roll?
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 Allen, you're falling into a classic stance. Because an electric bike
 won't meet your wants, it's somehow not a real bike. It's for city
 dwellers and commuters only, in other words (not yours) not real riders.
 Much like people dismiss electric cars because they can't go on long trips,
 electric bikes NOW actually suit a sizable percentage of the riding
 public's habits. A smaller percentage in NA, but include around the world
 to watch the percentage skyrockets.

 A new CBR600 won't get 250 miles (52+ mpg) of neck-wringing on a tank
 either; why does an electric have to meet that standard?

 -Kurt

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 But your limited to 100 miles this is about 1/2 to 1/3 the miles I'll put
 on a bike is I go on a joy ride with my friends. And I doubt that it has
 the power of a cbr600 or if it does it won't give you 100 miles of hard
 riding. To me the CBR is more attractive. Electrics are limited to
 commuting duty and city dwellers, or at least the ones that are affordable
 are. When the have one that is equivalent to a 120HP sport bike that has a
 range of 250 miles of wringing its neck, and costs equivalent to a gas
 model, then I'm in. But I'm afraid they need to come up with a better
 battery chemistry than what is available now to make that a reality.
 Currently a bike like I just described would be massively heavy.

 Allen Thomas
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 My point was that electric bikes are already fairly mature. This isn't
 electrification of 10 years ago. A reasonably sporty electric bike with an
 80-100 mile range is only ~$13k. What's a CBR600 go for new these days?
 $11k? Not having to fuel and oil change the electric will make up that
 difference in a reasonable amount of time. I imagine insurance on the
 electric is cheaper too.

 Kurt
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 I'm not dismissing them as viable tech, electrics can exceed IC in
 performance. The limitations are range due to battery capacity and recharge
 times. But the cost is still higher. I watched the conversion to electric
 happen on the small scale with R/C airplanes. It was super expensive and
 kind of crappy compared to IC 10 years ago. But as tech evolved more ppl
 adopted it and now I'd say IC is the minority tech.

 Allen Thomas
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 I've been on the Brammo, it's definitely not gutless and the range is
 ~100 miles to a charge. No, it's not a touring bike, but it's a great
 cruise around town bike and it isn't but a grand or two more than a
 comparably powered naked bike.

 I've heard nothing but good things about the Zero bikes on the power
 and range front. There are a couple local students who do their school
 commutes on them. They have the short 65 mile range versions, but these 
 are
 twenty somethings who can't find anything to complain about on their 
 bikes.

 There will always be people who dismiss them as not being real
 motorcycles, just like people dismiss the Leaf as not a real car.

 Kurt
 On Nov 28, 2014 9:26 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not if you want something that isn't gutless, and has decent range,
 you can spend easily 10K doing a conversion that is comparable to a real
 motorcycle.

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  wrote:

 The tech is already pretty inexpensive. You can get them for 15k
 now, even ones with 100+ mile ranges.

 Kurt
 On Nov 28, 2014 6:23 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you got $30K laying around this one might be accessible.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz1aTLBKIoQ


 -Kyle

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 althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope they sell a ton of them and make the tech more accesable to
 the average Joe.

 Allen Thomas

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: What do you think I should ask for this bike?

[paul annen]

Love Florida's laws on that (unrelated note I love the no magazine capacity
limit too). All except the plate fee... almost had to pay as much to
register my jeep as the thing cost me
On Nov 24, 2014 6:47 PM, JJ jwjar...@gmail.com wrote:

 test

 On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:04:27 PM UTC-7, digi...@gmail.com wrote:

 small bikes are in demand.   they get excellent mileage but are more
 streetable than those goofy scooters.   i'd ask $1,800.BUT you might
 want to keep it for a back-up bike.   in texAss however you have to keep
 your bikes insured.  here in florida,  NO INSURANCE REQUIRED ON
 MOTORCYCLES.i was thrilled and knew that i made the right move when i
 heard that.i moved from texASS too.   best move i ever made.  oh, and
 NO STATE INSPECTION either.   get the hell out of dallASS, texASS asap.
 y'all come!

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:58:18 AM UTC-5, Stephen Wallenbeck wrote:

 http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/4769818792.html


 Ive had it for about 2 years and now I want something bigger.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] What do you think I should ask for this bike?

[paul annen]

My advice. .. don't sell it, just add another bike to the barn... I had a
99 250 that I miss riding now. If I had anything to offer and a way to get
it to florida I would gladly take her off your hands
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Bobber bobber Rat rat Mad Max honda chopper

[paul annen]

 Custom big straight pipes for that great look and mean sound; loud but
not stupid loud.

Yea... ummm how about no? Straight pipes that aren't to loud? Straight
piped lawnmowers are to loud!

Tires are almost new? Sounds like he dumped money into a wrecked bike and
now he dosent like how it rides!
On Nov 20, 2014 11:01 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 At least he started with a shadow, man I hate those stupid poser bars.

 Allen Thomas
 On Nov 20, 2014 6:15 AM, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:

 When will these guys ever learn?  Mid-weight Japanese bikes just don't
 make decent looking bobbers.  Squat, fat and low, simple lines and
 proportional aesthetics is what gets the job done.  I'd categorize this one
 as a slapped together pile of spare parts...okay, maybe a rat bike.


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:28:35 AM UTC-5, Phil wrote:

 http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/4762802586.html

 You just knew it would be a real head turner with that title on the ad.
 That's got to be my favorite bobber ad heading.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Should I grab this?

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Never said it was easy, yes carbs are a major pain, and I've had to replace
my starter twice now but it is a labor of love. I was just stating my
opinion on The bike. Yes it's heavy,  that can be overcome.  Yes the carbs
are a pain, ride often enough and the carbs don't get gummy. Starter is a
pain, how often do they go out? (My first replacement was a rebuild that I
screwed up). The charging system, previous owner mounted a 30A GM alt. Off
the main crank so I haven't dealt with that.

Yes plenty of power to get up to speed quickly.  Yes wind blockage is
great. Yes luggage is a great bonus. Yes it was designed from the rubber up
to be a long distance super slab touring machine and it does a great job at
it.
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 That PC800 is at a really good price. I think it deserves the trip to go
 and at least look at it.

 Yeti, not to say that the GL is a bad bike, but I wouldn't say is
 maintenance free, in particular the older models. Also, they are not very
 easy to work on. Carbs are difficult, if the stator goes bad (not uncommon)
 your need to remove the engine. Getting the starter engine out and in my
 GL1200 without removing the exhaust was one of the most difficult things
 I've ever done.

 Javier.

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 This PC800 is about an hour away. Maybe I need to see if I can get over
 there -- after the Browns game, of course. ;-)

 http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/mcy/4736808138.html

 I've never ridden a PC or a GL. All I know about them is what you guys
 say. Old Yeller has 40K miles now and has taken me the equivalent of back
 to San Francisco since May with zero issues. If the NH could keep the wind
 off me better and if it had better storage, I suppose I could just stick
 with it forever. I don't think anybody thinks of the NH as a touring
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Should I grab this?

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I have an 86 gl 1200, and I don't think there's anything better suited for
me on long runs. I am 6 foot 3 inches tall and almost 300 pounds. The bike
is heavy (700 pounds) but low center of gravity.  It can be a bugger to
pick up, but with proper techniques it can be done even by a small person.
The center stand is a bugger regardless of who you are and I only use it
for maintenance.

I say go for the goldwing, they are virtually maintenance free and will go
well beyond 100k miles if you just keep up on oil changes and tires.
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 The weight may be low but they are very heavy. And a bugger to get up on
 the center stand.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fixing ignition

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I say by pass the key... hot wire the bike and replace with a wireless
relay, that's what I did on the Aprilia when it was stolen and they
destroyed the cylinder
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 Unfortunately I have to keep my bikes outside so this will come handy. On
 day I took the cbr out after few weeks of no riding it. The ignition worked
 fine, but when I pull at the gas station to fill up, I couldn't get the key
 into the gas tank cap. It was completely locked, so much I was afraid I
 would brake the key if I kept trying. Luckily the station was just across
 my house. I sprayed some PB blaster and that made it work again, but for
 the ignition I would rather use something like the product mentioned here.

 Javier.

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 If the switch is sticking, you might try a touch of powdered graphite.  I
 would try a light coat on the key, then insert and wiggle it around.  (This
 works with other endeavors, also!).

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 9 below zero by Tuesday in Northern USA!

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I vote for smokey mountains.  Somewhere in the north ga to southern nc
area...
On Nov 10, 2014 9:42 AM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 and I'm only good for one landing

 On Nov 10, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Kyle Munz wrote:

 and boy are your arms tired... (rim shot)


 -Kyle

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 And the 20 something hours of flying is grueling.

 Sent from my iPad

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 That's the right idea, but that might be too far south.


 -Kyle

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 My wish list is 6 weeks in New Zealand every winter here

 Sent from my iPad

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 I know, I'll end up down south before too long. Somewhere in the
 foothills of the smoky mountains if I have my way.

 Allen Thomas
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 And you're not old!

 Sent from my iPad

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 GGG! The older I get the more I despise winter.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Clutch reservoir sight window

[paul annen]

I needed a quick fix on the road (a chip fell out of the already weeping
glass) so I just jb welded a penny over the existing until I could do a
proper fix
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB650sc for sale

[paul annen]

I would take it, but I'm in Florida don't even really have the asking
price much less the money to transport it
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 It's like a pink shirt to me, some guys can pull it off lol.  Id rather
 the and I have a qt I need to use.

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 I have the same color.

 I get tired of looking at black bikes.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] UHaul Options

[paul annen]

Either or, both will work. Just make sure its strapped in good and tight as
others have mentioned
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 When I moved from DC to Boston I rent a trailer for all my stuff. The I
 went back and rode my cbr. Then I went back and rode my NH. Had a lot of
 fun doing that :D

 Javier.

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 All,
My sole moving experience was with a Penske moving truck - I recommend
 them only because the price is similar but most of the larger box trucks
 are diesel powered, which of course will cost you less money in the long
 run compared to a gas job.
Just a thought.
 -Joey

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 Dear Nighthawkers-who-have-recently-moved,

 I have an upcoming move (Atlanta-Houston) and wanted some feedback on a
 couple options for moving the bike ('97 CB750).  Since the trailer rating
 of the Nighthawk is rather low :), UHaul seems the best choice.  Would you
 suggest:

 1. Carry the Nighthawk on a trailer behind the box truck
 2. Load the Nighthawk into the box truck

 Moving to Atlanta several years back, I had a CB250 loaded into a 10'
 box truck, sitting on the kickstand with a couple ropes to keep it from
 falling over.  That worked just fine.  Would the heaver CB750 be alright
 riding in the truck on the kickstand (with some support ropes), or do I
 need to tie it down on just the wheels?

 Cheers,
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: I have a 1985 Nighthawk 450.... but I'm still looking for an owner's Manual.

[paul annen]

Check the main fuse block. Even tweek your fuse blades to ensure connection
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 I have an issue. 82 cb 450. No lights horn starter. Fuses all good. Is it
 the right side starter button that's fried? I do not even get solenoid
 click...battery is 12.6 volts!
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 The things I use a manual for are wiring diagrams, torque specs,
 clearances, etc. Generally bikes are easy enough to figure out how to
 remove stuff.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue.

[paul annen]

Filling your battery tells that you are using a flooded battery. At the
shop we would only warrantee them for 6 months. You are due for a new one.

Trickle chargers are very different from maintainers. And I only recommend
the deltran battery tender!
On Oct 20, 2014 2:51 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dont use a trickle charger, use a maintainer.

 On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Greg wrote:

  Battery is just a year old.   Usually I have to refill the battery once
 a year here in FL. The heat is brutal. Also in the winter, I use a
 trickle charger on it.  I've just never heard it click like that before. I
 wasn't sure it I had a faulty relay.  I had the bike sitting for a week
 before it happened.

  *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*


 Phil bailey.phi...@gmail.com wrote:

  I did not see any objective information on your battery (battery
 age/type, how often you ride, periods on non-use, ), but any time the
 'clicks' appear, sooner or later the battery at fault. I'd start looking
 for an AGM battery replacement from Amazon or Ebay. You might need one in
 the near future. You had expert battery technicians reply, so I would heed
 their advice. It will crap out on you at the worst time possible: Murphy's
 Law.



 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:46:53 PM UTC-7, Greg wrote:

  Battery is good. Probably just a connection issue. Has been starting
 fine since.

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 Even the Walmart batteries I keep on a maintainer last at least 5 years
 Joey. It's when they drop below 12.3 v that they begin to sulfate and die.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Joey Kelley sand...@gmail.com wrote:

   When was the battery replaced last? If you get more than three seasons
 on a conventional battery you're doing REALLY well. Two is common.
   -Joey

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  Hey gang! I had an issue today and I am trying to get some input on how
 to remedy it. Bike is a 91 cb 750. 49000miles. Going on 8yrs with me. I was
 trying to leave today and the bike wouldn't start. I turned the key, and
 the indicator lights came on as usual but when I hit the starter button all
 I heard was a click. Then the lights went off. The click came from the
 box to which the positive lead from the battery goes to. From the box
 then the wires separate to four smaller wires. I looked at the fuse in the
 plug with the four wires, (30a) and it was fine. It took me about 10 tries,
 then the bike started fine as usual.  Thanks for any help in advance!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Well folks - it seems everyone wants in on Water Cooling

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I have a 50cc bike with liquid cooling. But that's high performance Italian
racing scooter
On Oct 20, 2014 5:42 PM, Felix sucotro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for great explanations Kurt and Phil! Definitively  air cooled
 engines are going to be limited to low engine sizes. And even with that, I
 remember to see some 125cc motorcycles with water radiators!!

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 Phil, I'm not sure why you're equating EFI with a loss of torque and low
 RPM performance. Though, if I had to hazard a guess, it's because EFI was
 introduced to motorcycles via racing, then race-reps, then general high
 performance bikes (Hayabusa, etc). All of these are characterized by high
 RPM, low bottom end, pure top end bikes.

 I'll grant that first flight motorcycle EFI was twitchy, too. Almost an
 on/off switch at times: wide open or nothing at all. But it's phenomenally
 better now. It's been the only thing available on Harley bikes (aircooled
 too) for over a decade, and it's made near universal appearance in general
 performance bikes as well, like the CBR250 (thumper, good torque, great
 bike) and the WR250 (dual sport, thumper, also great torquey bike). Even
 Triumph's Bonneville classics are fuel injected, though they have taken
 great pains to maintain the appearance of carburation.

 EFI isn't being mandated by anyone, but the market's desires for more
 power and range, as well as smoothness, cold start performance, and
 durability are all driving the shift away from carburetors. Add in that you
 don't have to consider removing and cleaning your fuel system as regularly
 scheduled maintenance, nor do you need to try-and-check tune it for
 different climate or altitude conditions or for mods like exhaust or air
 filter...

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 Carbureted, aircooled bikes have valve adjustment intervals as well, and
 historically they've been shorter than those for watercooled bikes, or the
 water pumpers just run the same intervals for consistency's sake. I'm not
 really sure why hydraulically adjusted followers aren't more common now, at
 least outside the high performance bleeding edge types, but it's not a
 cooling method thing.

 Kurt
 On Oct 16, 2014 2:43 AM, Phil bailey.phi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like Kurt said, water cooled engines have less variability. For single
 cylinders (1 fire per revolution) or big displacement pistons, I can see
 the need. But where the law is headed, and wrongly I feel, is towards EFI
 where the variability makes a significant difference with puffs of fuel 
 'mist'
 delivered. I don't know of many if any efi bikes w/o water cooled.

 The Nighthawk 750 imo does not need w.c, and especially efi. With efi,
 kiss that low end torque good bye, and say hello to high rpm/compression
 ratio/speed/hp/gas mileage. I just don't like 80mph being at the low end of
 my ridable range. I had one efi bike and don't want another, without a test
 ride and serious consideration (I had a lot of tickets with that bike,
 only.) Without high rpms, they have throttle lag (compared to carbs) in
 low/mid range, make you illegally speed ALL the time, and mine could not
 stop (with dual smaller diameter discs than the Nighthawk 750.)

 Nighthawk owners don't need water cooling, valve adjustments, or EFI.
 Yet they run maintenance free like a water cooled motorcycle. It's a
 paradox. How sweet it is! Those water cooled valve adjustments every 6K
 miles cost over $200 labor. Who needs them? That is approximately the cost
 of 2 tires and installation labor.



 On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:47:25 AM UTC-7, Joey wrote:

 All,
 Just watched some videos on the new 2015 Indian Scout -
 http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/scout-indian-red - seems it has
 a brand new for Indian 69 cubic inch water cooled engine. 100 HP and 72
 ft/lbs of torque - I watched a first ride video and the rider was very
 impressed at its get up and go.
  I wonder - with HD offering its second watercooled model line
 (the first being the V-Rod) has that legitimized water cooling in the North
 American Market - or was it already legitimized and HD is playing catch up?
 How long before we start seeing the death of air cooling all together?
  -Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue.

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Test the battery and starter
On Oct 17, 2014 4:50 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check and clean all of the wire connectors going to the solenoid.
 Preferably pull all of the wire connectors on the harness and hit them with
 contact cleaner and a brush, then reconnect with some dielectric grease.
 Doing this every few years will save you the aggravation of issues like
 this. Check your ground points too.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] need help identifying this nighthawk please

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For that price, I would buy it today regardless and ride as is
On Oct 9, 2014 6:58 PM, Matthew Ward mastermech...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/4693938421.html


 So i found this ad and call the guy and ask what was it he says a
 nighthawk 450 thinks it was either an 82 or an 87 any help is appreciated i
 would love to restore it to it's former glory

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Does this make you feel like crying?

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I'm not one to chop a good bike, but if its wrecked and I can use the
engine, wheels, ext to make something custom and unique I will
On Oct 10, 2014 6:20 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chopping it up is one thing, but it drives me nuts when they eliminate the
 airbox

 -Kyle
 On Oct 10, 2014 4:15 PM, EGrider gevan...@gmail.com wrote:

 This, gentlemen, is a cafe racer:

 http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mcy/4708280158.html

 I'd rather have the original 650 Nighthawk, but you know me.


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Suzuki

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If I found something like that locally (central Florida) I would have to
think about it seriously. I would love something small and sporty in the
450-650cc range!
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 http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/4704519145.html to get a hold of finish


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CTX700

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I did some touring on my cb250... the goldwing works better for long trips,
but it can be done
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 Sean, I think if that's true for you, then that's true for you. We had a
 couple of young riders a while back posting about their tours of the US on
 450's. THEY certainly can tour on a smaller bike. I'm the guy  who went
 from Atlanta to SF and back on a 750 in May. When I was in my 20's, I
 logged thousands of miles touring the West on my CB550K. So it is pretty
 obvious to me that one can indeed tour on something smaller than an ST,
 even if you could not personally do it. Now, if I took a trip on an ST, I
 may never be able to go back to my 750. Who knows? I can say that since I
 bought a Plexifairing 3, I could never go back to touring with no
 windshield. And since I bought a coffee maker, I could never go back to
 instant coffee. Guess why we don't feed our dog table food? But I will
 never tour on an ST because my height, weight, and body strength would not
 permit it. At least that's my perception.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Photos from Kristina Hilton's post

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Not bike related, but had a great time on and off the road today!

BTW, about a month ago I got my hands on a 93 Cherokee for $500!

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203663406403857id=1177808144set=pcb.10203663407603887source=48

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Do I Really Have To?

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Remembering my 99 cb250 there was no exaust related anything near the
clutch. But I never had clutch issues, but lots of exaust problems...
mostly I kept loosing the copper crush gaskets and half moons that hold the
assembly to the head...
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wrote:

 I did my 82 450 and did snap one exhaust bolt. Thankfully the other holds,
 and I just drilled the   old out and got a new bolt from dealer. That is
 the hardest part!

 On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, Dave D dave48...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have some experience with removing a CB250 clutch?

 Dave


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 I've never had one of those but other than removing the brake pedal it
 doesn't appear from pictures that anything else would prevent removal of
 the clutch cover.
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 Sorry...It's a 1993 CB250.

 Dave


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 What year bike? I was able to change the clutch on my 92 750NH with out
 messing with the pipes.
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 Reading the repair manual, the first step in pulling the clutch is to
 remove the right side exhaust.  Do I really have to?  Or, am I being too
 concerned and pulling the exhaust is a no brainer?  I'm envisioning
 snapping the exhaust flange studs.

 Thanks!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Honestly...

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I see them all the time in Daytona
On Oct 4, 2014 2:48 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think before I went that route I'd just get a Piaggio MP3
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_MP3




 -Kyle

 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 ...I have to admit I had never before laid eyes on a scooter trike!

 http://boise.craigslist.org/mcy/4696918615.html



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Proof POSITIVE that some people have absolutely NO taste...

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Actually a good deal. If I were in the market I might be Interested
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Proof POSITIVE that some people have absolutely NO tas...

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I wonder how flexible that is? Can I paint it on my boat sails?
On Oct 1, 2014 4:05 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shut up and take my money!

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 How about electroluminescent paint? Though sometimes I worry about
 becoming *too* visible. Driver might fixate on you and drive right into
 you like a moth to a flame.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH6oQbckCms


 -Kyle

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 wrote:

 I want a day-glo yellow bike with sharp edged midnight blue accents.
 Because it would be unique, eye catching and done properly still attractive.

 It would also be a bear to keep clean.

 Kurt
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 True, true, but the color sensors on cameras have been known to play
 tricks on the eyes. If it really is that color in the flesh, at least you
 might say that it is the safest color from the aspect of being seen by
 cars. The dayglow green the road crews wear would also do the trick...

 On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:01:11 PM UTC-4, Mike21222 wrote:

  That is an ugly red.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rides

[paul annen]

They look like the Magnum boots I wore in the navy, also popular with law
enforcement
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 I had a set of boots like that from Redwing with the side zipper.  Also
 Dicks sporting goods had ones like it
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 Of you and the kid!  Not the boot

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