Re: [NTG-context] ! Undefined control sequence.

2005-02-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi,
You are still using an old format file, not the one from
the new context you downloaded. You could try creating the
format files manually:
  $ su
  # texexec --make --all
K. David Prince wrote:
TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004
   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
   context : ver: 2005.01.31
   cont-en : ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.1.28  mes: english
That last line should probably have been:
 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2005.2.7  mes: english
Greetings, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
example  : texmfstart pstopdf.rb cow.eps
   texmfstart --locate examplex.rb
   texmfstart --execute examplex.rb
   texmfstart --browser examplap.pdf
   texmfstart showcase.pdf
   texmfstart --page=2 --file=showcase.pdf
   texmfstart --program=yourtex yourscript.pl arg-1 arg-2
   texmfstart --direct xsltproc kpse:somefile.xsl somefile.xml
   texmfstart bin:xsltproc kpse:somefile.xsl somefile.xml
   texmfstart --iftouched=normal,lowres downsample.rb normal 
lowres
Hmmm. What exactly 'texmfstart showcase.pdf' does? It starts something 
(AR?) shows nothing and after that freezed my Win2K Command Prompt.
Ohh, there was some terrible state of AR. After closing AR  it works now.
Is there some way how to close doc being opened in AR when running 
texexec?
--autopdf should do that (make sure that the first time you do that, the 
doc os closed)
? Something like:
  texmfstart --autopdf latin.pdf
  texmfstart texexec.pl --pdf --format=cont-cz latin.tex
but starting Perl with this way makes wrong with .pm paths, please see 
log bellow. Running

  perl c:\TeXLive\texmf-experim\scripts\context\perl\texexec.pl --pdf 
--format=cont-cz latin.tex

directly (Active Perl distr) is OK.
Vit Zyka

V:\tex\zk\context\fonttexmfstart texexec.pl --pdf --format=cont-cz 
latin.tex
Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .) at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/sc
ripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 35.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/scripts/context/pe
rl/texexec.pl line 35.
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Undefined control sequence.

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi,
You are still using an old format file, not the one from
the new context you downloaded. You could try creating the
format files manually:
  $ su
  # texexec --make --all
K. David Prince wrote:
TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004
   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 
You also need new pdfetex binary (at least 1.20). (TeXLive 2004, teTeX 3).
Vit Zyka
   context : ver: 2005.01.31
   cont-en : ver: 2003.1.31  fmt: 2005.1.28  mes: english

That last line should probably have been:
 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2005.2.7  mes: english
Greetings, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up layout - basic questions

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
cormullion wrote:
Hi there. Im a newcomer to ConTeXt, and Im so far really impressed with the power and 
flexibility I now have access to. Id be grateful for a few tips - Ive been reading the 
documentation over the last few days, and my heads getting full. Please excuse me if these 
questions are obvious.
I want to make headings in a sans serif font, such as Helvetica, and keep the body 
text in serif font (such as Times). (I use these font names loosely, I have no idea 
which fonts I can actually use, since I cant get XeTeX working yet.) I know 
that I should do something like this:
\setuphead
[chapter]
[number=yes, 
style=\ss]
  style=\ssc
\setuphead
[section]
[number=no, 
style=\ss]
  style=\ssa
You can choose from 7 sizes: \ssxx, \ssx, \ss, \ssa, \ssb, ssc, \ssd
Vit Zyka
but the sizes of the different levels of heading are lost... So something 
like 16pt for chapter, 14pt for section, 12 point for subsection?
Also, is it generally possible to make all the headings start at the left margin, with everything else (eg paragraphs, lists, etc) indented? Eg:
something like
\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [alternative=inmargin]
Vit Zyka
Chapter X
   Paragraph
Section X
   Paragraph
Subsection y
   Paragraph
  
Thanks for any pointers. Im more of a FrameMaker user up to now, so I may not yet be thinking the ConTeXt way. :-)
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Re: [NTG-context] ! Undefined control sequence.

2005-02-08 Thread Matthew Huggett
  
K. David Prince wrote:
   =20
TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004
   
   texexec : TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-200=
   5
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-200=
   4
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5)
 
   You also need new pdfetex binary (at least 1.20). (TeXLive 2004, teTeX 3)=
   =2E
   Vit Zyka


In which case, you may be better off using the minimal Context tree
for Linux from the Pragma site.  (I think you said you were running
Debian, so the packages are bound to be old.)

Matt 

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts in ConTeXt!

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
I've decided to send you the complete file (test.log)! You'll find it 
attached!

I used the command: texexec --pdf test to produce it. By the way I'm 
running Debian 3.0r Linux!
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2) (format=cont-en 
2004.5.1)  7 FEB 2005 17:48
entering extended mode
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
**cont-en test.tex
(./test.tex{/usr/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2004.5.1  int: english  mes: english
language   : language en is active
quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex  1.20)
- remove the debian tex
- install tetex (3 beta)
- if needed update context
or
- fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website
(run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news:
1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz.
Bad news:
1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex
they are in mult-con (in the alpha)
2) it preserves long-variant hyphen for \cz case (no difference between 
\en and \cz):

\unprotected \setuplanguage
[cz]
[compoundhyphen=-,
 leftcompoundhyphen=-,
 rightcompoundhyphen=-]
that;s because in your version the keywords are not known
=
  - latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr:
 
fetch the cont-lmt.zip file if needed
I want to compare Czech accented chars in lm and csr. I started with the 
bellow code, but no criticalchars is visible in both cases. Log is 
enclosed. What are the proper family/typescript names?

%
\useencoding[il2]
\enableregime[il2]
\setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding]
(no need fo rthe regime afaik)
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[NTG-context] grid

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hallo,
I wanted use two-column typesetting, so set grid on. But even this 
simple minimal example does not fit me to the grid. Am I doing something 
wrong?

--
\setuplayout[lines=40,grid=on]
\setuphead[chapter][grid=low,before=\blank,after=\blank]
\setuphead[section][grid=low,before=\blank,after=\blank]
\showgrid
\starttext
\chapter{Examples}
  See this two paragraph examples.
\section{Knuth}\input knuth
\section{Zapf}\input zapf
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
? Something like:
  texmfstart --autopdf latin.pdf
  texmfstart texexec.pl --pdf --format=cont-cz latin.tex
texmfstart texexec --pdf --autopdf --interface=cz latin
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news:
1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz.
Bad news:
1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex
they are in mult-con (in the alpha)
Sorry Hans, I did not distinguish between current and alpha, only 
between alpha-betha.

Now it works well, indeed...
So can we move
\unprotected \setuplanguage
[cz]
[\c!compoundhyphen=-,
 \c!leftcompoundhyphen=-,
 \c!rightcompoundhyphen=-]
onto cont-cz.tex ?
And related question. Is there ANY czech user who uses cz interface, 
like \definujramovani? I guess not. It is very unconfortable and 
confusing especially for unskilled ConTeXter to edit cont-cz.tex to switch
  \def\defaultinterface{czech}
to
  \def\defaultinterface{english}

If nobody complain I suggest \def\defaultinterface{english}
to be default for cont-cz.
Thanks
Vit Zyka
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Re: [NTG-context] grid

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
\setuplayout[lines=40,grid=on]
grid=yes
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
? Something like:
  texmfstart --autopdf latin.pdf
  texmfstart texexec.pl --pdf --format=cont-cz latin.tex

texmfstart texexec --pdf --autopdf --interface=cz latin
The same problem with paths:
texmfstart texexec --pdf --autopdf --format=cont-cz latin
Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .) at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/sc
ripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 35.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/scripts/context/pe
rl/texexec.pl line 35.

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[NTG-context] RE: \defaultinterface for cont-cz

2005-02-08 Thread Martin Kolařík
Hi all,

I'm using english interface in cont-cz too... But, maybe, it could be useful
to determine interface in the highest level -- during making the format
like:

texexec --make cz --commands en

I know --interface cz cannot be used as --interface is used to select
ConTeXt format (to rewrite texexec defaults).

What about this?

Have a nice day,

Martin

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Hans Hagen wrote:
 Vit Zyka wrote:
 
 I save time to install new release and start to test. Good news:
 1) The hyphen code can be processed with cont-cz.
 Bad news:
 1) \c!compoundhyphen atc. are not defined in cont-con.tex
 
 they are in mult-con (in the alpha)

Sorry Hans, I did not distinguish between current and alpha, only 
between alpha-betha.

Now it works well, indeed...

So can we move

\unprotected \setuplanguage
 [cz]
 [\c!compoundhyphen=-,
  \c!leftcompoundhyphen=-,
  \c!rightcompoundhyphen=-]

onto cont-cz.tex ?

And related question. Is there ANY czech user who uses cz interface, 
like \definujramovani? I guess not. It is very unconfortable and 
confusing especially for unskilled ConTeXter to edit cont-cz.tex to switch
   \def\defaultinterface{czech}
to
   \def\defaultinterface{english}

If nobody complain I suggest \def\defaultinterface{english}
to be default for cont-cz.

Thanks
Vit Zyka
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts in ConTeXt!

2005-02-08 Thread VnPenguin
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:07:58 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
 
  I've decided to send you the complete file (test.log)! You'll find it
  attached!
 
 
 - remove the debian tex
 - install tetex (3 beta)

No, tetex-3.0 is official release, not beta :)

Q.
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid said this at Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:28:43 -0700:
No, but I use old-style numerals as default
Ok, the next alpha will offer you:
\starttext
\usetypescript [modern][\defaultencoding]
\usetypescript [map]   [latin-modern-os] [\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[modern] test 1234 test
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] RE: \defaultinterface for cont-cz

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Martin Kolak wrote:
I'm using english interface in cont-cz too... But, maybe, it could be useful
to determine interface in the highest level -- during making the format
like:
texexec --make cz --commands en
I know --interface cz cannot be used as --interface is used to select
ConTeXt format (to rewrite texexec defaults).
What about this?
it was possible to say something
texexec --make --lang=en,cz --font=csr etc etc
to get an english format with czech fonts
however, the new version will have latin modern in ec format preloaded, so then
  texexec --make --all
will do (i may even consider loading all patterns always by default)
and in your document:
\mainlanguage[cz] % optionally \enableregime[il2]
and there is no need for special formats
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Re: [NTG-context] grid

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
\setuplayout[lines=40,grid=on]
grid=yes
YES!
Is't it good idea to make \v!yes=\v!on and \v!no=\v!off ?
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .) at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/sc
ripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 35.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/scripts/context/pe
rl/texexec.pl line 35.
can you update your perl installation? strict.pm should be in there
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
\setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding]
There is some mess with encoding, I think:
-
\setupencoding[default=il2]
\def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=}
\starttext
  \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding]
  \criticalchars
\stoptext

Both \dcaron and \v d give proper glyph, but direct '' not.
If I understand correctly, now the actual typescript is defined in 
type-exa.tex encoding: enco-il2.tex map: il2-public-lm.map with glyph 
encoding: csrm.enc.

So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is 
exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. '' has catcode letter. So a the 
letter is should enter the font.

Where is problem?
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100:

So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is
exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the
letter is should enter the font.

Where is problem?

I think it's with two things:
1) you're not using \enableregime[il2]
2) there's no il2 regime anyway!

Perhaps (as a temporary fix), you could convert your file to UTF-8
encoding and include \enableregime[utf] in your input file?

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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up layout - basic questions

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 09:31:46 +0100:

 Also, is it generally possible to make all the headings start at the
left margin, with everything else (eg paragraphs, lists, etc) indented? Eg:

something like

\setuphead
   [chapter]
   [alternative=inmargin]

Actually, I think I know what cormullion is after: this is almost
precisely the layout I used when setting my Masters thesis in Framemaker
(9 years ago, sigh). I remember it fondly because it first got me
interested in structured typesetting...

This is my interpretation. It uses some undocumented stuff, and a lot of
this is new to me:

% First we set up some `virtual' dimensions.
\newdimen\HeadOutdent% distance from Heading to text body
 \HeadOutdent=20mm
\newdimen\HeadBackspace  % inner margin, including head
 \HeadBackspace=35mm
\newdimen\HeadCutspace   % outer margin, including head
 \HeadCutspace=45mm
\definelayout[fm]  [backspace=\dimexpr(\HeadBackspace+\HeadOutdent),
cutspace=\HeadCutspace,
width=middle]
\definelayout[even][backspace=\HeadBackspace,
cutspace=\dimexpr(\HeadCutspace+\HeadOutdent),
width=middle]
% Hans: this was made a bit tougher because horoffset wasn't respected in the 
% even layout... why?
\setuplayout[fm]
\setuphead[section]   [margin=-\HeadOutdent,
   style=\ssc] 
  %different sections could be outdented differently, etc.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] % hmmm...
\showframe
\starttext
\section{Hi there}
\subsection{Ho there}
\input knuth \page
\subsection{Hey there}
\subsubsection{Ha there}
\input knuth 
\stoptext


 Chapter X
Paragraph
 Section X
Paragraph
 Subsection y
Paragraph
   
 Thanks for any pointers. Im more of a FrameMaker user up to now, so I
may not yet be thinking the ConTeXt way. :-)

It's not too tough a transition, so long as you're not afraid of a little
math. 
(Welcome to the ConTeXt list... I noticed your posts to the MacTeX list
earlier...)
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
Can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .) at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/sc
ripts/context/perl/texexec.pl line 35.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim/scripts/context/pe
rl/texexec.pl line 35.
can you update your perl installation? strict.pm should be in there
I think the problem is not in absence of strict.pm in my (not so old - 
summer 04) Perl distr. It is present in lib/strict.pm I can use strict 
in my scripts as well ;-)

Problem occures when I run perl via texmfstart. And since it is exe on 
win I do not known how and with which environment is the Perl called inside.

More over, you are using strict in texexec.pl atc., and both it works well:
texexec.exe file.tex
perl texexec.pl file.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:29 +0100:

 latin modern fonts instead of cmr/plr/csr/aer/vnr:

Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be
converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't
documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion?

Also, something I just realised (thanks to Vit's example): XeTeX hasn't a
clue when it comes to grid typesetting. (Has to do with the difficulty of
getting the metrics from the platform fonts, I think.)

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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Vit Zyka said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:30:20 +0100:

So problem is at the very beginning stage. I check if input file is 
exactly in il2 encoding, yes it is. 'ì' has catcode letter. So a the 
letter is should enter the font.

Where is problem?

I think it's with two things:
1) you're not using \enableregime[il2]
2) there's no il2 regime anyway!
another option is to copy cont-en into cont-xx and replace the ec in there 
by il2
(or to say: \definetypeface[modern][il2] \setupbodyfont[modern], but that is 
slower)

%D \module
%D   [   file=cont-en,
%Dversion=1997.08.19,
%D  title=\CONTEXT,
%D   subtitle=\CONTEXT\ English Format Generation,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D   date=\currentdate,
%D  copyright={PRAGMA / Hans Hagen \ Ton Otten}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
\catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \def\defaultinterface{english}
\input context.tex
\unprotect
\setupcurrentlanguage[\s!en]
\loaduserspecifications
\installlanguage [\s!en] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!uk] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!de] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!fr] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!es] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!it] [\c!state=\v!start]
\installlanguage [\s!nl] [\c!state=\v!start]
% \setupbodyfont [cmr,ams,rm,12pt]
%
% \setupencoding[default=ec] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding] 
\setupbodyfont[modern,rm,12pt]

\setupencoding[default=ec] \usetypescript[fallback][\defaultencoding] 
\setupbodyfont[rm,12pt]

\protect \errorstopmode \dump \endinput

btw, if you patch enco-il2 by
  \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry
and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -)
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
\setupencoding[default=il2] \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding]

There is some mess with encoding, I think:
-
\setupencoding[default=il2]
\def\criticalchars{\dcaron=\v d=}
\starttext
  \usetypescript[modern][\defaultencoding]
  \criticalchars
\stoptext
in addition to previous mails: encodings are switched by font switches, i.e. 
each font has an associated encoding, so in principle one can have typefaces and 
styles with mixed encodings; the default is ec which happens to partially 
overlay with il2 and unless some regime is used, your specific input

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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Ah, here's a conflict: XeTeX doesn't have latin modern yet. (Needs to be
converted to OpenType, with some special table enabled... JK hasn't
documented it yet.) Do you have a switch to avoid the cmr-lm conversion?
hm, we should have a \beginXETEX ... \endXETEX section then
but before we do that, can you contact
  Boguslaw Jackowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
there has be done some work on lm open type so maybe if you join forces ...
Also, something I just realised (thanks to Vit's example): XeTeX hasn't a
clue when it comes to grid typesetting. (Has to do with the difficulty of
getting the metrics from the platform fonts, I think.)
context does grid typesetting itself, there is no dependency on pdftex or so
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up layout - basic questions

2005-02-08 Thread cormullion
Vit Zyka [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on 2005-02-08, 9:31 (+0100 GMT):

 \setuphead
[chapter]
[alternative=inmargin]

Excellent - simple, really! :-)

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[NTG-context] List of special characters

2005-02-08 Thread cormullion
I cant find a definitive list of the special characters that I need to 
escape when used in a ConTeXt document. Im writing a short script that 
converts documents, and I need to catch some characters. Some of the TeX ones I 
tried didnt work. Couldnt see it in the manuals.

Ive done the obvious ones - \%, \#, \, \$ - but wondering about some of the 
others (eg ! \ # $ %  ' ( ) * + , - . /  : ;  =  ? @   [ \ ] ^ _ ` { | } ~  
). 

thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] RE: \defaultinterface for cont-cz

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
will do (i may even consider loading all patterns always by default)
Yes, presence of cz patterns in cont-en solve the confusion.
VZ
and in your document:
\mainlanguage[cz] % optionally \enableregime[il2]
and there is no need for special formats
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Vit Zyka wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Problem occures when I run perl via texmfstart. And since it is exe on 
win I do not known how and with which environment is the Perl called 
inside.
Here is a very small script. Save to a file and run texmfstart on it.
# envtest.pl
map { print INC .= $_\n } @INC;
map { print $_ = $ENV{$_}\n; } keys %ENV;
Greetings, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Problem occures when I run perl via texmfstart. And since it is exe on 
win I do not known how and with which environment is the Perl called 
inside.

Here is a very small script. Save to a file and run texmfstart on it.
# envtest.pl
map { print INC .= $_\n } @INC;
map { print $_ = $ENV{$_}\n; } keys %ENV;
Toco, my result is:
-
INC .= .
USERPROFILE = D:\Documents and Settings\vit
HOMEDRIVE = D:
TEMP = D:\DOCUME~1\vit\LOCALS~1\Temp
SYSTEMDRIVE = D:
PROCESSOR_REVISION = 060a
OS2LIBPATH = D:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;
SYSTEMROOT = D:\WINNT
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = D:\Program Files\Common Files
COMSPEC = D:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe
LOGONSERVER = \\SPEKOUN
APPDATA = D:\Documents and Settings\vit\Application Data
WINDIR = D:\WINNT
PROGRAMFILES = D:\Program Files
OS = Windows_NT
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = 6
PATHEXT = .COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
MATLAB = D:\Program Files\matlab
USERNAME = vit
PROMPT = $P$G
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = 1
HOMEPATH = \Documents and Settings\vit
PATH = 
C:\programs\ImageMagick-6.1.6\VisualMagick\bin;C:\programs\gs\gs8.14\bin;
D:\Perl\bin\;D:\WINNT\system32;D:\WINNT;D:\WINNT\System32\Wbem;C:\TeXLive\bin\wi
n32;D:\Program Files\Common 
Files\GTK\2.0\bin;D:\bin;c:\programs\matlab\bin;d:\v
it\perl;C:\programs\libs\netcdf\bin;L:\bin
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel
USERDOMAIN = SPEKOUN
COMPUTERNAME = SPEKOUN
ALLUSERSPROFILE = D:\Documents and Settings\All Users.WINNT
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = x86
TMP = D:\DOCUME~1\vit\LOCALS~1\Temp
TEXMFSTART.ENVTEST = ./envtest.pl
--

but running 'perl envtest.pl'
--
INC .= D:/Perl/lib
INC .= D:/Perl/site/lib
INC .= .
...
texmfstart does not inherit @INC array?
Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] permissions in texmf/scripts/context/*

2005-02-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Vit Zyka wrote:
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Here is a very small script. Save to a file and run texmfstart on it.
texmfstart does not inherit @INC array?
So it would seem... that makes no sense? There is an environment passed
on, though, and PATH does not look crippled, so my guess that there was
a problem with %ENV was obviously wrong.
I do not have a Windows machine to do further testing, sorry.
Greetings, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
btw, if you patch enco-il2 by
  \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry
and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -)
OK. That is the game. Chars were born.
I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin 
Modern v. CS Fonts). See http://typokvitek.com/tmp/latin.pdf

Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment:
1) LM has very ugly caron
2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules
3) ring is lifeless/faint
4) acute is OK; I would prefer vertical position somewhere inbetween LM 
an CS, but CS are consistent with tight accents (acute and caron)
5) \v t: caron is too low (does not look as neither ligature connection 
nor separate accent

No kernings checking for now, just glyph drawing. I can ask LM author 
(Boguslaw Jackowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?) about his opinion. But the 
current tests (especially points 1,2,3) prevent me from the LM font 
usage in ConTeXt.

So, for me, there are two possibilities to fullfil my aesthetic feeling:
1) go back to the old (no lm) ConTeXt version, or
2) simple switch to set complete CS fonts environment (I use the next 
code, but it is just a quick hack:
  \loadmapfile[il2-ams-cmr.map]
  \definetypeface[computer-modern][il2] \setupbodyfont[modern]

I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution?
Thank
vit
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
btw, if you patch enco-il2 by
  \startcoding[il2][il2] % second entry
and regenerate the format you have a regime for free -)

OK. That is the game. Chars were born.
I prepared a quick comparision of Czech/Slovak accented letters (Latin 
Modern v. CS Fonts). See http://typokvitek.com/tmp/latin.pdf

Font design is very subjective game, I know. There is my comment:
1) LM has very ugly caron
2) caron is too high at both capitals and minuscules
3) ring is lifeless/faint
4) acute is OK; I would prefer vertical position somewhere inbetween LM 
an CS, but CS are consistent with tight accents (acute and caron)
5) \v t: caron is too low (does not look as neither ligature connection 
nor separate accent

No kernings checking for now, just glyph drawing. I can ask LM author 
(Boguslaw Jackowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?) about his opinion. But the 
current tests (especially points 1,2,3) prevent me from the LM font 
usage in ConTeXt.

So, for me, there are two possibilities to fullfil my aesthetic feeling:
1) go back to the old (no lm) ConTeXt version, or
2) simple switch to set complete CS fonts environment (I use the next 
code, but it is just a quick hack:
  \loadmapfile[il2-ams-cmr.map]
  \definetypeface[computer-modern][il2] \setupbodyfont[modern]

I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution?
a better solution is to use alternative glyphs, now, one problem is that there 
are no il2-lm files in the lm distribution and such things could be solved in a 
il2-lm.* tfm set combined with enc files that map to the prefered instances of 
glyphs (some glyphs are present in more variants), so

i prefer the first variant with adaptions since that was part of the reason for 
the lm project: replace plr, csr, aer etc

kerning is a different game, since the csr metric files are used, you get the 
same kerns as in csr; but future versions of lm will have improved kerning pairs

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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote:
I prefer the second variant. Can we find its solution?
added to the previous mail: german has dedicated umlauts in latin modern, so 
what you ask for is dedidated (positioned lower) caron's and such; about the 
small circular thingie, it indeed looks a bit to spiny in latin modern, so that 
may be a bug (you may as well be one of the first czech tex users looking into 
latin modern -)

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[NTG-context] Why uses Context 8r encoding used instead of the specified ec encoding?

2005-02-08 Thread Stefan Wachter
Hi all!
Fonts are driving my crazy! I have the following document that clearly 
states that the font encoding should be ec. Yet, somewhere behind the 
scenes the ec-encoded font uhvr8t is mapped into the 8r-encoded font 
uhvr8r.

Can someone reveal this deep secret?
Best regards,
--Stefan
PS: The pdfmapline instruction cause the uhvr8r font not to be embedded. 
Doing so proves that Context really uses the uhvr8r font and not the 
uhvr8t font.

\enableregime[il1]
\setupencoding[default=ec]
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\usetypescriptfile[pdf-typescript.tex]
\usetypescript[pdf]
\setupbodyfont[MyHelvetica,sans,20pt]
\setupheadertexts[]
\pdfoptionpdfminorversion 4
\starttext
\pdfmapline{=uhvr8r Helvetica TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont 8r.enc}
This is a test.
\stoptext
With the typescriptfile pdf-typescript.tex:
\starttypescript [sans] [xhelvetica] [name]
 \writestatus{x}{y}
 \definefontsynonym [Sans][uhvr8t]  [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansBold][uhvb8t]  [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]  [uhvro8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansSlanted] [uhvro8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic]  [uhvbo8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted] [uhvbo8t] [encoding=ec]
 \definefontsynonym [SansCaps][uhvr8t]  [encoding=ec]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [pdf]
 \definetypeface [MyHelvetica] [ss] [sans] [xhelvetica] [default] 
[encoding=ec]
\stoptypescript

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts in ConTeXt!

2005-02-08 Thread G.C.H.M. Verhaag
 Hans Hagen wrote:
.
quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex  1.20)
- remove the debian tex
- install tetex (3 beta)
- if needed update context
or
- fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website
(run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)

I'm afraid that I don't understand this! I'm not using Debian TeX, but 
installed TeXLive Ed.9 (2003) on my Debian (3.0r) based Linux box.

Am I right in saying that an installation of ConTeXt from TeXLive is 
incomplete? Do I really have to fetch the latest ConTeXt from PRAGMA ADE 
to get those fonts working? Do I perhaps have to configure ConTeXt more 
before being able to use those fonts?

Well fetching large files from Internet is very time consuming when 
using a simple modem, which I do, with an average speed of around 
4Kbytes/sec! So this isn't really an option.

Isn't it possible to create the missing tfm files, which ConTeXt uses, 
from the fonts already present in /usr/TeX/texmf/fonts?

What if I install TeXLive 2004?
Regards,
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[NTG-context] Tex-Live bittorrent sites?

2005-02-08 Thread K. David Prince
Is there a bittorrent site for downloading the current version of texlive?
Dave
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts in ConTeXt!

2005-02-08 Thread Vit Zyka
G.C.H.M. Verhaag wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
.
quite ancient ... (we now have pdftex  1.20)
- remove the debian tex
- install tetex (3 beta)
- if needed update context
or
- fetch the minimal context linux tree from our website
(run setuptex in the root of it to enable that tree)

I'm afraid that I don't understand this! I'm not using Debian TeX, but 
installed TeXLive Ed.9 (2003) on my Debian (3.0r) based Linux box.

Am I right in saying that an installation of ConTeXt from TeXLive is 
incomplete? Do I really have to fetch the latest ConTeXt from PRAGMA ADE 
TeX Live 2003 is 1.5 year old distribution. It is very fresh for 
(plain)TeX but mediaeval for ConTeXt. More over you can not combine TeX 
Live 2003 with today ConTeXt (if you have no deep insight).

What if I install TeXLive 2004?
Yes that is the solution (we have already recommended). Install TeX Live 
2004 and (optionally) fresh ConTeXt (cont-tmf.zip).

Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] alpha release / latin modern

2005-02-08 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:41:26 +0100:

 Also, something I just realised (thanks to Vit's example): XeTeX hasn't a
 clue when it comes to grid typesetting. (Has to do with the difficulty of
 getting the metrics from the platform fonts, I think.)

context does grid typesetting itself, there is no dependency on pdftex or so

I sort of tried to say that XeTeX's vertical measurements are very
conservative (based on Apple's text system: it just doesn't want to let
lines get too close!).

Anyway, here are some adjusted logos that seem to save 80% of my
headaches in XeTeX's vertical spacing:

\beginXETEX depth adjustment of logos
\let\NormalTeXLogo\TeX%save it---just in case!
\def\XeTeX{X\smash[d]{\lower.5ex\hbox{\kern-.15em\mirror{E}}}\kern-
.1667em\TeX}
\def\TeX{T\smash[d]{\kern-.1667em\lower.5ex\hbox{E}}\kern-.125emX}
\endXETEX

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[NTG-context] Fourier Expert Fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Randall Skelton
Hi all,

Can someone explain how I go about adding the Adobe Utopia Expert
fonts so that ConTeXt is aware of them?  I have the postscript fonts
from Adobe but cannot figure out what to do with them.  Is there a
document that I've missed somewhere?  Poking around in type-enc.tex
suggests that much of the hard work has already been done...

The type one fonts (Mac) were exported using FontLab and renamed to

  ls *.afm *.pfb
  futb8t.afm  futbi9d.afm futr8t.afm  futri8t.afm
futs9e.afm  futsc9wt.afm
  futb8t.pfb  futbi9d.pfb futr8t.pfb  futri8t.pfb
futs9e.pfb  futsc9wt.pfb
  futb9d.afm  futbi9e.afm futr9e.afm  futri9d.afm
futsc9d.afm futsi9d.afm
  futb9d.pfb  futbi9e.pfb futr9e.pfb  futri9d.pfb
futsc9d.pfb futsi9d.pfb
  futb9e.afm  futc9d.afm  futr9p.afm  futri9e.afm
futsc9dd.afmfutsi9e.afm
  futb9e.pfb  futc9d.pfb  futr9p.pfb  futri9e.pfb
futsc9dd.pfbfutsi9e.pfb
  futbi8t.afm futc9e.afm  futrc9d.afm futs9d.afm  futsc9hd.afm
  futbi8t.pfb futc9e.pfb  futrc9d.pfb futs9d.pfb  futsc9hd.pfb

and tried to run a trivial fontinst script:

  \input fontinst.sty
  \needsfontinstversion{1.926}
  \recordtransforms{fut-rec.tex}
  \latinfamily{fut}{}
  \endrecordtransforms
  \bye

but I don't get any propery list or virtual property list files?  

Apologies if this is trivial... it has been a while since I tinkered
with fonts in TeX.

Thanks,
Randall
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[NTG-context] Installing Bitstream fonts

2005-02-08 Thread cormullion
I found a font package called bitstream-vera4context on a website and 
downloaded it. Unfortunately I cant work out how to install them on my MacOS 
X system. Anyone care to give me the necessary mystic incantation?

thanks

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[NTG-context] Fonts, Fonts, Fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull
Always with the fonts on this list...

Anyway, I am running some recent beta of tetex and am still having
problems getting fonts loaded in ConTeXt.

\starttext
\showbodyfont[cmr,12pt]
\showbodyfont[lbr,12pt]
\stoptext

seems innocent enough, but produces two identical tables.  pdfetex is
complaining about an all-base.map:

Warning: pdfetex (file all-base.map): cannot open font map file

and there is no such file anywhere (and a grep through /usr/share/texmf,
/etc/texmf, and /var/lib/texmf turns up nothing).

Could someone provide me with a simple rundown on what I should do.  I
would really like to try typesetting my master's thesis in another font
than cmr before I hand it in.  Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
nikolai

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing Bitstream fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Nikolai Weibull
* cormullion (Feb 09, 2005 00:10):
 I found a font package called bitstream-vera4context on a website and
 downloaded it. Unfortunately I cant work out how to install them on
 my MacOS X system. Anyone care to give me the necessary mystic
 incantation?

You could check out mag-0009.pdf I guess, it has some information about
truetype fonts.  I don't run MacOS X so I can't really tell you much
more,
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Re: [NTG-context] Fourier Expert Fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Matt Gushee
Randall Skelton wrote:
Can someone explain how I go about adding the Adobe Utopia Expert
fonts so that ConTeXt is aware of them?  I have the postscript fonts
from Adobe but cannot figure out what to do with them.  Is there a
document that I've missed somewhere?  Poking around in type-enc.tex
suggests that much of the hard work has already been done...
This doesn't directly address your problem, but it might help a bit:
http://havenrock.com/textips/bookfonts.html
Apologies if this is trivial... it has been a while since I tinkered
with fonts in TeX.
IMHO nothing to do with fonts in TeX is trivial. Sometimes there are 
simple solutions, but I've never found solutions that are both simple 
and clearly documented.

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Re: [NTG-context] Fourier Expert Fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Randall Skelton
Thanks Matt... after reading a few more sites, I was led back to trying:

texfont --fontroot=$HOME/Library/texmf --vendor=adobe
--collection=utopia --makepath --install

This creates a tree in ~/Library/texmf/fonts/*/adobe/utopia where * is
either afm, tfm, type1, or vf.  I also get
$HOME/Library/texmf/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-adobe-utopia.map which
I've added to my pdftex.cfg and run texhash.  Unfortunately, I still
get CM fonts for the caps and there are no old-style figures?

---
\usetypescript[fourier][ec] 
\setupbodyfont[fourier]

\starttext
This is Fourier roman, {\it italic,} {\bf bold,} and {\bi bold-italic.}

{\em \bf This is also bold-italic.}

We have {\sc small caps} and old-style figures: {\os 0123456789}.
\stoptext
---

Comparing type-enc.tex and the suggestions on Bill McClain's site, the
typescript definitions are somewhat different and I'm wondering if
this isn't the source of my problems:

\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular]  [futr8t]   [encoding=ec]
vs.
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular]  [texnansi-futr8t ] 
[encoding=texnansi]

Any further hints are much appreciated.

Cheers,
Randall
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Re: [NTG-context] Fourier Expert Fonts

2005-02-08 Thread Matt Gushee
Randall Skelton wrote:
Thanks Matt... after reading a few more sites, I was led back to trying:
Well, I probably can't help much (I haven't been working w/ fonts much 
recently, either), but here are a couple of thoughts.

texfont --fontroot=$HOME/Library/texmf --vendor=adobe
--collection=utopia --makepath --install
This creates a tree in ~/Library/texmf/fonts/*/adobe/utopia where * is
either afm, tfm, type1, or vf.  I also get
$HOME/Library/texmf/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-adobe-utopia.map which
I've added to my pdftex.cfg and run texhash.
That's only useful if you are planning to use TeXnANSI encoding. You 
might try adding --encoding=ec to your texfont invocation. Then I think 
you will get an ec-adobe-utopia.map file.

Unfortunately, I still
get CM fonts for the caps and there are no old-style figures?
You mean small caps, I presume? My first guess would be that they're not 
properly referenced in the typescript. As for old-style figures, are you 
sure Utopia is supposed to have them? If so, do you know which font 
contains them?

Comparing type-enc.tex and the suggestions on Bill McClain's site, the
typescript definitions are somewhat different and I'm wondering if
this isn't the source of my problems:
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular]  [futr8t]   [encoding=ec]
vs.
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular]  [texnansi-futr8t ] 
[encoding=texnansi]
My experience leads me to think that in general you should reference 
fonts with some encoding prefix. That prefixed name has to correspond to 
a name defined in a map file in your TeX tree; e.g., if your 
texnansi-adobe-utopia.map file defines a name something like 
'texnansi-raw-futr8t.map', then in your typescript, 'texnansi-futr8t' 
should work. Then again, I suspect 'futr8t' might be the wrong name to 
use. Do you have TFM files named 'futr8t.tfm', and so on? Or are they 
named 'utopia'? In the latter case, I think the map file should say, 
e.g., 'texnansi-raw-utopia', and you should say 'texnansi-utopia' in the 
typescript.

If you want to use EC encoding, then I guess you would change every 
instance of 'texnansi' above to 'ec'. By the way, is there a particular 
reason you don't want to use TeXnANSI?

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