[NTG-context] Problem with Lucida Fonts

2005-11-28 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Hi all,

I'm trying ConTeXt for a week so maybe my question seems stupid but...
I have the YY Lucida fonts and i've run
sudo texfont --en=ec --ve=bh --co=lucida --in --ma --so=auto
--ro=TEXMFMAIN
to get ec-bh-lucida.map

So I want to check if my installation is working with an experiment :


__
%% Set output to pdf
\setupoutput[pdftex]
%% Activate txt in METAPOST
\useMPlibrary[txt]
%% Activate colors
\setupcolors[state=start]
 
\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\enableregime[il9]
\useencoding[ffr]
\mainlanguage[fr]

\usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
\loadmapfile[ec-bh-lucida.map]

\usetypescript[lucida][ec]
\setupbodyfont[lucida]

\starttext

Test \high{exposants} ainsi que des S\cap{mall} C\cap{apitals} !!!
{\em emph !}
{\sl slanted}
{\tt verbatim}

$$t+e+x+t = m+a+t+h + \theta$$

\stoptext
__


I've checked that the right fonts is used and it's ok but I obtain
strange errors :


This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(format=cont-en 2005.11.22) 28 NOV 2005 10:10
entering extended mode
%-line parsing enabled.
**cont-en phd.tex
(./phd.tex

ConTeXt ver: 2005.10.27 fmt: 2005.11.22 int: english mes: english

language : language en is active
protectionstate 0
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color : palette rollover is available
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
language : patterns en-ec:ec-1-2:2
uk-ec:ec-2-2:2 de-texnansi:tex
nansi-3-2:2 de-ec:ec-4-2:2
fr-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:2 fr-ec:ec-6-2:2
es-ec:ec-7-2:2 pt-texnansi:texnansi-8-2:2
pt-ec:ec-9-2:2 it-texnansi
:texnansi-10-2:2 it-ec:ec-11-2:2
nl-texnansi:texnansi-12-2:2 nl-ec:ec-
13-2:2 cz-il2:il2-14-2:2
cz-ec:ec-15-2:2 sk-il2:il2-16-2:2 sk-ec:ec
-17-2:2 pl-pl0:pl0-18-2:2
pl-ec:ec-19-2:2 pl-qx:qx-20-2:2 loaded
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout2 = `phd.tui'.

system : phd.top loaded
(./phd.top)
\openout0 = `phd-mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.


specials : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials : fdf loaded
)
specials : fdf,tpd loaded
metapost : loading metapost library txt
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/meta-txt.tex)
color : system rgb is global activated
encoding : coding ffr is loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/enco-ffr.tex
system : module tryout loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/m-tryout.tex
\openout2 = `phd.tui'.

)
language : language specific options [ec-fr] seamless appended
) (/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/local/texlive/2005/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex)

Re: [NTG-context] beginners manual

2005-11-28 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:

I got unexpected positive responce to idea of beginners manual 
translation on Saturday's Czech/Slovak TUG meeting. The small working 
group of 5 people was establish there. Nobody but me has context 
experience now, but I think it is not a serious drawback for translating.


i don't know if david antos was present, but he knows his way around 
context and can be of help (given that he has time)


He was not. Anybody's help will be welcomed, especially David...

Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] beginners manual

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

VnPenguin wrote:


On 11/28/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Thanks, it's ok. But I have to add:

\usemodule[abr-01]

into ma-cb-abbreviations.tex in order to fix error \ASCII non defined.



 


no, you need a new version of context -)
   



Release 2005.11.24 is not ok for this ?

 


i patched that at the day i uploaded the manuals to svn -)

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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Duncan Hothersall wrote:


I just foolishly downloaded the 2005-11-16 linuxtex.zip minimal linux
distribution and copied it on top of my previous one, and I now discover
that the binaries are linked to a more recent version of glibc than I
have on my linux box. Eek.
 

indeed annoying (and depressing); it also means that you cannot copy an 
old tree to a new linux installation (this is what i found out 
recently); on windows, one does not have this problem (since it carries 
previous versions of libraries); i don't know how sensitive macosx is 
for updates


(maybe we should put a set of statically linked binaries someplace; a 
kind of archive)



I will clearly need to update the linux machine in due course, but does
anyone (a) know if the binaries from the previous zip will work as a
stop-gap, and (b) happen to have a copy of the previous linuxtex.zip (or
the binaries from it) available for download?

 


yes, you can use the old binaries, no problem;

hm, a copy of previous binaries ... i can make a zip of an old tree

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:

Duncan Hothersall wrote:


I just foolishly downloaded the 2005-11-16 linuxtex.zip minimal linux
distribution and copied it on top of my previous one, and I now discover
that the binaries are linked to a more recent version of glibc than I
have on my linux box. Eek.
 

indeed annoying (and depressing); it also means that you cannot copy an 
old tree to a new linux installation (this is what i found out 
recently); on windows, one does not have this problem (since it carries 
previous versions of libraries); i don't know how sensitive macosx is 
for updates


It is precisely the same situation as Win98 refusing to run WinXP
binaries. (except it doesn't outright refuse that, it just makes
them crash unexpectedly and unexplainably)

But I grant that it is annoying ;-)

Greetings,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?


no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by  
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned by  
darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a problem?


did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Tobias Burnus

Hi,

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
indeed annoying (and depressing); it also means that you cannot copy 
an old tree to a new linux installation (this is what i found out 
recently); on windows, one does not have this problem (since it 
carries previous versions of libraries); i don't know how sensitive 
macosx is for updates

It is precisely the same situation as Win98 refusing to run WinXP
binaries. (except it doesn't outright refuse that, it just makes
them crash unexpectedly and unexplainably)
Well, or Adobe Reader 7 refusing to install on Windows ME* and demanding 
at least WinNT SP x or Win2000 SP 2, fortunally there is GhostScript to 
print PDF files. (The PDF file didn't print with 6.0.)


Tobias

* I fully agree with most world (incl. Microsoft), that WinME is bad, 
but to update Windows just for AR is a bit too much.


PS: That neither CorelDraw Linux 9/Linux (not anymore) nor CorelDraw 
Windows via Wine (not yet) runs here on my (too modern) Linux, is also 
annoying.

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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing a font for our Math Book

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans,

Yep.

bin $ locate yandy-
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida-mpgraph.mp
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.log
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.pdf
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tex
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tmp
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tui
/Users/darnold/tmp/lucida/texnansi-yandy-lucida.tuo
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
yandy-lucida.bak
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi- 
yandy-lucida.map


ah, i see; the problem is that the context predefined typescripts expect 
something


 bh-lucida

since bh is the foundry and not yandy

now, for all fonts that i buy/use, i add en entry to type-buy.tex, and 
the corresponding dat files says:


# bh lucida

--en=? --ve=bh --co=lucida --re
--en=? --ve=bh --co=lucida --so=bh/lucida --ma --in --expert

this means that you can run texfont as follows:

 texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-buy.dat

which assumes that you have the fonts in the local tree (the place where 
you run this command) under


 bh/lucida

Here i have a dedicated disk where i put my font files (the ones 
provided by the foundry) structured like:


/myboughtfonts/bh/lucida/

the last one is flat, i.e. i always copy all font files to such a path 
(pfb, afm, whatever)


i then run texfont in the

/myboughtfonts

path and (using the dat file) texfonts knows where to find the files. 
So, type-buy assumes some kind of source tree:


h:\fonts\adobe\frutiger
h:\fonts\adobe\myriad
h:\fonts\adobe\palatino
h:\fonts\adobe\symbol
h:\fonts\adobe\utopia
h:\fonts\agfa\bauhaus
h:\fonts\bh\lucida
h:\fonts\bitstream\cyberbit
h:\fonts\itc\bauhaus
h:\fonts\itc\kabel
h:\fonts\itc\mendoza
h:\fonts\itc\officina
h:\fonts\itc\stone
h:\fonts\linotype\industria
h:\fonts\linotype\optima-nova
h:\fonts\linotype\syntax
h:\fonts\linotype\univers
h:\fonts\linotype\zapfino
h:\fonts\linotype\zapfino-extra
h:\fonts\lucas\antiqua
h:\fonts\lucas\sun
h:\fonts\lucas\thesans
h:\fonts\monotype\sabon

which will be reflected in the names that en dup in the tex tree

once you have it running, adding a new font is a matter of minutes

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Tobias Burnus wrote:


Hi,

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

indeed annoying (and depressing); it also means that you cannot copy 
an old tree to a new linux installation (this is what i found out 
recently); on windows, one does not have this problem (since it 
carries previous versions of libraries); i don't know how sensitive 
macosx is for updates


It is precisely the same situation as Win98 refusing to run WinXP
binaries. (except it doesn't outright refuse that, it just makes
them crash unexpectedly and unexplainably)


sure, but at least you know that 95|me and 2000|xp are two different 
things, and now i have to get accustomed to the fact that each update of 
suse gives me another new operating system  (i wonder how it will feel 
to install suse 34.2)


what puzzles me most is that since tex is not that demanding, it is 
still so dependent (maybe only pdftex with its graphic libraries is a 
problem)


Well, or Adobe Reader 7 refusing to install on Windows ME* and 
demanding at least WinNT SP x or Win2000 SP 2, fortunally there is 
GhostScript to print PDF files. (The PDF file didn't print with 6.0.)


that's an adobe issue ... they don't care about older machines (same 
with mac: they didn't even bother to provide proper support for a while 
back); i must have a floppy with an acrobat 1.0 for msdos somewhere; it 
actually gave a pretty good picture -)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Duncan Hothersall
Hans wrote:
 yes, you can use the old binaries, no problem;
 
 hm, a copy of previous binaries ... i can make a zip of an old tree

That would be great, thanks!

Thanks Taco for the suggestions, I was exploring both of those in
parallel to hoping that someone had kept a copy of the old ones..

Thanks both.

Duncan
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:
what puzzles me most is that since tex is not that demanding, it is 
still so dependent (maybe only pdftex with its graphic libraries is a 
problem)


It is only dependent because it was created on my (brand new) machine.

If it was recompiled on an older machine, that executable would work
fine on my machine as well. But my binaries will not run on older
installations, and I am not going to *downgrade* my machine just so I
can create more portable binaries.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux binaries

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Hans Hagen wrote:


Duncan Hothersall wrote:


I just foolishly downloaded the 2005-11-16 linuxtex.zip minimal linux
distribution and copied it on top of my previous one, and I now 
discover

that the binaries are linked to a more recent version of glibc than I
have on my linux box. Eek.
 

indeed annoying (and depressing); it also means that you cannot copy 
an old tree to a new linux installation (this is what i found out 
recently); on windows, one does not have this problem (since it 
carries previous versions of libraries); i don't know how sensitive 
macosx is for updates



It is precisely the same situation as Win98 refusing to run WinXP
binaries. (except it doesn't outright refuse that, it just makes
them crash unexpectedly and unexplainably)


sure, but at least i can run old texs during the time-span that xp is 
around (say a 5 year pseudo-platform stability compared to a 1-year for 
linux); it makes me worry a bit; maybe the tex code base is just messed up




But I grant that it is annoying ;-)



so we need to do something about it (some day -)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Vit Zyka wrote:


Dear Metafun Wizards,

I have noticed some strange behaviour with box shading. It works OK 
until some number of shadings. Please see example:

  http://typokvitek.com/tmp/shade-many.pdf
Any idea for solving? Next not-minimal but small and illustrative 
example can help.


works ok here; since it concerns independent mp runs, i cannot imagine 
what goes wrong; mayeb a bad random numer; does your log say something?


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Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Vit Zyka wrote:


Dear Metafun Wizards,

I have noticed some strange behaviour with box shading. It works OK 
until some number of shadings. Please see example:

  http://typokvitek.com/tmp/shade-many.pdf
Any idea for solving? Next not-minimal but small and illustrative 
example can help.



works ok here; since it concerns independent mp runs, i cannot imagine 
what goes wrong; mayeb a bad random numer; does your log say something?


Hans


Hmmm strange, the second similar result in last two days: wrong result 
also on wiki.


My log says (whole log is attached)
systems : randomizer starts with 981406338

Vit
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.21b-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (format=cont-en 
2005.11.24)  28 NOV 2005 13:56
entering extended mode
\write18 enabled.
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/web2c/natural.tcx)
**cont-en shade-many.tex
(./shade-many.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.09.08  fmt: 2005.11.24  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color   : palette rollover is available
)
system  : cont-old loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys loaded
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-dis.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns en-ec:ec-1-2:2 uk-ec:ec-2-2:2 de-texnansi:tex
nansi-3-2:2 de-ec:ec-4-2:2 fr-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:2 fr-ec:ec-6-2:2
 es-ec:ec-7-2:2 pt-texnansi:texnansi-8-2:2 pt-ec:ec-9-2:2 it-texnansi
:texnansi-10-2:2 it-ec:ec-11-2:2 nl-texnansi:texnansi-12-2:2 nl-ec:ec-
13-2:2 cz-il2:il2-14-2:2 cz-ec:ec-15-2:2 sk-il2:il2-16-2:2 sk-ec:ec
-17-2:2 pl-pl0:pl0-18-2:2 pl-ec:ec-19-2:2 pl-qx:qx-20-2:2 loaded
specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout2 = `shade-many.tui'.

system  : shade-many.top loaded
(./shade-many.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(c:/TeXLive/texmf-experim2/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
)
\openout0 = `shade-many-mpgraph.mp'.

\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.

 (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo)
(./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo)
(./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo) (./shade-many.tuo)
(./shade-many.tuo)
systems : begin file shade-many at line 56
\openout5 = `shade-many-mpgraph.mp'.

systems : randomizer starts with 981406338
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.4000) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3999)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3998) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3997)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3996) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3995)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3994) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3993)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3992) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3991)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3990) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3989)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3988) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3987)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3986) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3985)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3984) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3983)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3982) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3981)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3980) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3979)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3978) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3977)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3976) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3975)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3974) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3973)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3972) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3971)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3970) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3969)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3968) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3967)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3966) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3965)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3964) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3963)
[MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3962) [MP to PDF] (./shade-many-mpgraph.3961)
[MP to PDF] 

Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:


it's related to the fact that there can be 1000 specials only (this 
/1000 in mp-spec)


Why?


if you add:

\def\MPrgbnumber#1{\expandafter\doMPrgbnumber#1.0\relax}
\def\doMPrgbnumber#1.#2#3#4#5#6\relax{#2#3#4#5}

\startMPinclusions
_special_div_ := 1 ;
\stopMPinclusions

to the file, and change all 1000's in mp-spec.tex into _special_div_ it 
works ok; so, the question (for taco is): does mp have the right 
precission (it looks ok to me, unless we need to start calculating with it)


I am not sure what you are doing, but ... in general the fractional
part of a dimension in TeX, divided by an integer, maps to an identical
fraction (of a bp) in metapost, since both use the same 16-bit (% 65536)
calculus algorithm. Same quantity, different unit.

Whether or not that makes dividing by 10.000 safe is not clear
to me. I have to read up on what is going on first.

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Re: [NTG-context] Drag and Drop and Authenticate on the Mac OS Tiger

2005-11-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
 fonts $ ls -l
 total 0
 drwxr-xr-x8 root wheel  272 Nov 20 19:59 cm-super
 drwxrwxr-x   14 darnold  wheel  476 Nov 27 19:27 iwona

 See how the result is owned by darnold:wheel? Is that gonna cause a
 problem? Should it be changed to root:wheel?
 Would it be OK to change to /usr/local/teTeX/share and then as root:
 chown -R root:wheel *

That should cause no problems.

 Gerben, I think maybe all these font thingys I've been trying out to
 go in ~/Library/texmf. What say you?

On my system it works this way (I keep all my additional fonts etc there).

Greetlings,
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] beginners manual

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Mari Voipio wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:

I 'reorganized' (split) the beginners manual and put it in svn, so 
anyone who is willing to translate can check out a copy.



OK, I'm either out of the loop (had off-the-Internet holiday) or just 
a dummy Windows user, but the above doesn't really parse here so 
cannot even get started...


I've used CVS, but SVN is totally new for me (although I've seen it 
mentioned here once or twice) - so if anyone has recommendations for 
what client/program to use in Windows (2000/XP) and Mac OS 10.4, I'd 
be very interested. And a URL or other directions towards the SVN 
server (or whatever it is) would be appreciated; my work computer 
isn't very cooperative with online pdf pages, so I've got real 
problems with finding anything on Pragma website (*never* install 
newer Acrobat Reader on a Windows that already has an older full 
Acrobat...).



for windows ... google for tortoise svn

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing YandY Lucida Bright fonts

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Sytse Knypstra wrote:

But unfortunately I don't have these files. How can I create them? Or 
should I take the identically named files from Hans's recent 
(bh-)lucida.zip file?


these files come with the (formerly) yandy floppies/cd; just take them 
from the posted zip (i suppose that in a while tug will ship those tfm's)



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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread David Arnold

Hans, I did, but I'll try again:

sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



junk.log
Description: Binary data



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?


no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by   
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned  
by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a  
problem?


did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

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Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Whether or not that makes dividing by 10.000 safe is not clear
to me. I have to read up on what is going on first.



for i=1 upto 1 :
   show i/1 ;
endfor ;

indicates that indeed the precision is ok

i put a version for testing purposes at 
www.pragma-ade.com/temp/cont-tmf.zip


 \settrue \manyMPspecials

will permit 10K specials

(it also has GB's desparate prefix patch so he'd better test it -)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] No partial contents for parts after the first

2005-11-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, November 28, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 sure, but i need a small test file -)

\setuphead[part][placehead=yes,resetnumber=no]

\starttext

\part{Part one}

\placecontent

\chapter{One}

\section{One-one}

\chapter{Two}

\section{Two-one}

\part{Part two}

\placecontent

\chapter{Three}

\chapter{Four}

\section{Four-one}

\stoptext




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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


well, the log says:

 Warning: pdfetex (file texnansi-iwona.map): cannot open font map file

and i took a look at the latest zip and there they use

  iwona-*.map

names instead of

  *-iwona.map

so ... another uncommunicated change in names

i slowly come to the conclusion that

(1) we should forget about being early adopters (or not adopt at all)
(2) distributions will become more and more instable
(3) if things go on this way, tex will not survive
(4) it's time we start making our own repository and distribution

i simply don't have the time to keep up with all those changes;  it 
looks like the policy of today is wipe out and start new which also 
means never buy a font and don't install your own stuff etc


(there is no way to determine such changes unless we load every map file 
available which is something i don't want to do at all because it's the 
cause of even more trouble)




sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?



no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned by   
root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are owned  
by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this be a  
problem?



did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


you can try this; the price is that you get messages about missing map 
files that you can ignore; i'm not in the mood for renaming and 
reorganizing my system(s) now


Hans


type-map.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Peter Rolf
Vit Zyka wrote:
 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Vit Zyka wrote:

 Dear Metafun Wizards,

 I have noticed some strange behaviour with box shading. It works OK
 until some number of shadings. Please see example:
   http://typokvitek.com/tmp/shade-many.pdf
 Any idea for solving? Next not-minimal but small and illustrative
 example can help.


 works ok here; since it concerns independent mp runs, i cannot
 imagine what goes wrong; mayeb a bad random numer; does your log say
 something?


 My results are the same as Vit's example: The last 9 items are
 not shaded but have 3 black sides and 1 white one
 (with \write18 disabled, using a single \jobname-mpgraph.mp)

 I don't know what is going, but at least I can reproduce the problem.
 I'm attaching an example wrong image.

 Taco
 
 A minimal version is here. It shows the randomization is not the reason.
 Shade disappears at 989th shade.

Both examples work here (win xp).

pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-20050924-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
ConTeXt  ver: 2005.11.16  fmt: 2005.11.17  int: english  mes: german
MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2c 7.5.3)

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[NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread Nikolai Weibull
I've followed the instructions listed at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't quite
give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup as a base
and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.  Does anyone
know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script to match the
setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in /etc/texmf and
/var/lib/texmf)?

Thanks.

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Re: [NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

I've followed the instructions listed at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't quite
give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup as a base
and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.  Does anyone
know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script to match the
setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in /etc/texmf and
/var/lib/texmf)?


It would be simplest (and definately justified) to ask this to the 
Gentoo maintainer, because (s)he has apparently succeeded in setting

that up (Gentoo's trees seem to bear only a passing resemblance to
teTeX and would be more accurately called Gentoo-TeX).

My best guess: find the non-etc version of texmf.cnf (I'm fairly
certain there is one), and attempt to pass the root of texmf tree
that contains it as  --datadir to the configure script.

Good luck,

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Re: [NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Nikolai Weibull wrote:


I've followed the instructions listed at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't quite
give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup as a base
and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.  Does anyone
know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script to match the
setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in /etc/texmf and
/var/lib/texmf)?
 

well, since it's the gentoo people who use a structure different from 
tds, it's up to them to provide support for that; btw, this 
var/lib/texmf path looks unfamiliar to me (i wonder what libs tex ships 
with/provides -)


the problem is that there are so many texmf paths nowadays (not 
texmf-xxx under one root, but multiple texmf (main) paths in different 
locations that the change for clashes is pretty big)


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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread David Arnold

Hans,

Frustrating and I agree.

So, perhaps the way to go is through trouble shooting advice in the  
manuals. This advice should take the form of If you see this, then  
do this...


The difficulty, at least for me, is the fact that I don't understand  
the sequence of engines that are brought to bear when compiling. When  
compiling stops with an error with this not found or that not  
found, I have no clue on how to fix it.


On the other hand, you and other gurus see such a message and you  
seem to say oh, such and such is missing. Maybe a manual like  
mfonts.tex should spend a significant amount of space addressing  
these trouble shooting techniques.


On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:55 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Hans, I did, but I'll try again:


well, the log says:
 Warning: pdfetex (file texnansi-iwona.map): cannot open font map file

and i took a look at the latest zip and there they use

  iwona-*.map

names instead of

  *-iwona.map

so ... another uncommunicated change in names

i slowly come to the conclusion that

(1) we should forget about being early adopters (or not adopt at all)
(2) distributions will become more and more instable
(3) if things go on this way, tex will not survive
(4) it's time we start making our own repository and distribution

i simply don't have the time to keep up with all those changes;  it  
looks like the policy of today is wipe out and start new which  
also means never buy a font and don't install your own stuff etc


(there is no way to determine such changes unless we load every map  
file available which is something i don't want to do at all because  
it's the cause of even more trouble)




sudo texhash

And got this response:

Password:
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
texhash: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
texhash: Done.

Mktexlsr seems to do the same thing:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/tmp/texfonts/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.

Then:

011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ cat junk.tex

\definetypeface[david][rm][sans][iwona][default][encoding=texnansi]
%\definetypeface[david][mm][math][iwona][default]

\setupbodyfont[david,ss,10pt]

\starttext
This should work.
\stoptext

And, no luck. Log file attached.



On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


1. Do I have to also do an updmap or enable or some such thing?



no, context loads the files needed at runtime



2. I note that on my office system, /usr/local/teTeX is owned  
by   root:wheel. But done in my fonts directory, some files are  
owned  by  darnolddarn:admind and some by root:admin. Could this  
be a  problem?



did you run a mktexlsr ? (otherwise tex cannot find the files)

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Re: [NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread VnPenguin
On 11/28/05, Nikolai Weibull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've followed the instructions listed at
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't quite
 give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup as a base
 and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.  Does anyone
 know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script to match the
 setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in /etc/texmf and
 /var/lib/texmf)?

The simple way, IMHO, is to build teTeX into /usr/local/teTeX.
After finished all, you need put /usr/local/teTeX/bin at top of your
$PATH and that should ok.

PATH=/usr/local/teTeX/bin:/usr/bin:.

By this way I have always teTeX/pdfetex/ConTeXt up-to-date on my FC4 box.

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Re: [NTG-context] beginners manual

2005-11-28 Thread VnPenguin
On 11/28/05, Mari Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 finding anything on Pragma website (*never* install newer Acrobat Reader
 on a Windows that already has an older full Acrobat...).

\startOT
At work, I have Acrobat 5.0 (full) + Acrobat Reader 7.x = work perfectly :-)
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Re: [NTG-context] Iwona font

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans,

Frustrating and I agree.

So, perhaps the way to go is through trouble shooting advice in the  
manuals. This advice should take the form of If you see this, then  
do this...


that won't help ... if filenames change and files come and go ...



The difficulty, at least for me, is the fact that I don't understand  
the sequence of engines that are brought to bear when compiling. When  
compiling stops with an error with this not found or that not  
found, I have no clue on how to fix it.  



normally it's:

- tex error message (tex stops): some tfm file missing
- pdf file wrong: type 1 font  file missing
- unexpected characters: map file missing



On the other hand, you and other gurus see such a message and you  
seem to say oh, such and such is missing. Maybe a manual like  
mfonts.tex should spend a significant amount of space addressing  
these trouble shooting techniques.


ha, don't underestimate the time i sometimes spend sorting things out, 
or worse: to get thing sintegrated and find out later that thing shave 
changed


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread Nikolai Weibull
Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Nikolai Weibull wrote:

  I've followed the instructions listed at
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't
  quite give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup
  as a base and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.
  Does anyone know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script
  to match the setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in
  /etc/texmf and /var/lib/texmf)?

 It would be simplest (and definately justified) to ask this to the 
 Gentoo maintainer, because (s)he has apparently succeeded in setting
 that up (Gentoo's trees seem to bear only a passing resemblance to
 teTeX and would be more accurately called Gentoo-TeX).

Sadly, there's no separate pdfetex ebuild for Gentoo.  If there was, I
wouldn't have to mess with this :-).

 My best guess: find the non-etc version of texmf.cnf (I'm fairly
 certain there is one), and attempt to pass the root of texmf tree
 that contains it as  --datadir to the configure script.

Yes, there's one in /var/lib/texmf/web2c.  The reason for this layout is
to separate architecture-dependent files and non-architecture-dependent
files.  I can't say that the added complexity justify this separation.

nikolai

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[NTG-context] blackboard bold and calligraphic

2005-11-28 Thread Hans van der Meer

BLACKBOARD

There is a problem with the Blackboard symbols, when used in regular  
and bold forms both.


In the Lucida fontset there is a regular series in lbma (or hlcra),  
and a bold series in font lbmad (or hlcda).
As I understand from the current code, switching from regular to bold  
should be accompanied by a switch from Blackboard to something like  
BlackboardBold in the command \bbd (from the sources I guess \bbd in  
font-ini.tex is the most basic macro here).

The problem is that \bbd is defined as:
\def\bbd {\mathortext{\fam\purefamily  {blackboard}}{\symbolicfont   
{Blackboard}}}

Thus the font is hardcoded to regular Blackboard.

I have no idea what should be the best strategy to repair this.
As for now, the most general mechanism for switching to other/bold  
math fontfamilies I could find is using \bfmath (and friends).
The font needed is in one of the math font registers, of course, so  
something like {\ma CNRZ} instead of {\bbd CNRZ} will do. But this  
low level code makes the TeX text source explicitely dependent on the  
font; for example in the AMS-series these characters are found in  
msmb, usually ending up in \ma.


Is there some generic solution here?

CALLIGRAPHIC

There is a similar problem with $\cal ...$
It is defined as
\def\cal {\mathortext{\fam\purefamily{calligraphic}}{\symbolicfont 
{Calligraphic}}}


I definded font Calligraphic but here ConTeXt does not seem to use  
it in math mode. The calligraphic symbols appear to be taken from the  
sy (symbol) math family instead of the Calligraphic font. It is a  
problem, because in the font I am using the calligraphic letters are  
in another font. Typesetting

${\cal XYZ}\hbox{\cal XYZ}$
gives the wrong characters from the symbol font in the first case,  
the correct letters in the second.


How can this be solved?

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer






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[NTG-context] texteuro

2005-11-28 Thread Hans van der Meer
I clearly have some misunderstanding about the typesetting of the  
euro sign.


In an attempt to implement the MathTimes font and expert fontset, I  
came across a problem with typesetting the euro.


I could not redefine the \texteuro. In \showcharacters it stays empty.
Doing \definecharacter texteuro to_some_value in a typescript does  
not work (giving: Runaway argument?)


The euro does appear when I define it explicitely (as coming from the  
marvosym font):

\def\euro{\symbol[europe][EUR]}
But then \texteuro is still unaffected and therefore doing  
\enableregime[mac] € (euro) does not work.


Any pointer how to solve this?

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer




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Re: [NTG-context] beginners manual

2005-11-28 Thread VnPenguin
On 11/28/05, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so for vietnamese you need another encoding.

 (i added language modes, so we can now do for vietnamese):

 \startmode[*vn]
 \enableregime[utf]
 \setupencoding[default=t5]
 \stopmode

 \startnotmode[atpragma]

 \usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
 \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
 \setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt]

 \stopnotmode

 (in ma-cb-style.tex)

 can you test that?


It does not work :(

...
(/work/apps/teTeX/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-buy.tex))kpathsea:
Running mktextfm uplr8t
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfive; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; input uplr8t
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf uplr8t
! I can't find file `uplr8t'.
* ...:=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input uplr8t

Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
* ...:=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input uplr8t

Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: uplr8t.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfive; mag:=1; nonstopmode;
input uplr8t' failed to make uplr8t.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*palatino12ptrmtf*:=uplr8t at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file no
t found.
to be read again
   \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname
  \tryingfontfalse \fi
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
  \relax \fi \iftryingfont \...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.73\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

? x

But when I try:

\startnotmode[atpragma]
   \enableregime[utf]
   \setupencoding[default=t5]
  \usetypescript[berry][\defaultencoding]
  %\usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
  \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
  \setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt]
\stopnotmode

It's OK.

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Re: [NTG-context] Building and installing pdftex 1.30 on teTeX 3.0

2005-11-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
I have once tried to set up TeX on gentoo, and found this to be the  
most complicated and least user-friendly distribution I have ever  
seen. There's a bunch of texmf-trees in all kinds of bizarre  
locations, and a symlink farm in /etc like you wouldn't believe, and  
there's not a shred of documentation to be seen anywhere. So they  
make everything as complex as possible, but the TeX binaries are  
simply dumped into /usr/bin, so the only way to update is via the  
emerge system. But enough of this rant: be careful to figure out what  
cnf file is a symlink and which one is real. They have an entire  
web2c tree in /etc/conf.d/texmf, if memory serves right, and the cnf  
files are regenerated from texmf.d/00texmf.cnf or somesuch, so this  
is the file you need to modify. But in the end, you may find it's not  
worth the trouble: just unmerge tetex and install a vanilla teTeX  
system.


Best

Thomas

On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Nikolai Weibull wrote:


Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Nikolai Weibull wrote:



I've followed the instructions listed at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation, but it won't
quite give.  The problem is that I use the Gentoo installation setup
as a base and have the latest ConTeXt installed in /usr/local/share.
Does anyone know what options to pass to pdftex's configure-script
to match the setup on a Gentoo system (where stuff is stored in
/etc/texmf and /var/lib/texmf)?



It would be simplest (and definately justified) to ask this to the
Gentoo maintainer, because (s)he has apparently succeeded in setting
that up (Gentoo's trees seem to bear only a passing resemblance to
teTeX and would be more accurately called Gentoo-TeX).


Sadly, there's no separate pdfetex ebuild for Gentoo.  If there was, I
wouldn't have to mess with this :-).


My best guess: find the non-etc version of texmf.cnf (I'm fairly
certain there is one), and attempt to pass the root of texmf tree
that contains it as  --datadir to the configure script.


Yes, there's one in /var/lib/texmf/web2c.  The reason for this  
layout is
to separate architecture-dependent files and non-architecture- 
dependent

files.  I can't say that the added complexity justify this separation.

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[NTG-context] indentation + YandY Lucida on TeXlive2005+debian

2005-11-28 Thread Renaud AUBIN




First of all, thanks for Lucida tips...
It work now with my debian install of texlive 2005.

I'm working now on the layout and structure of my phd thesis. Due to
the fact that my thesis is in french I need to setup indentation of the
first paragraph and I've got a problem with \setupindenting \indenting

I have followed the structure given in cont-eni.pdf :

__phd.tex_begin
%% Set output to pdf
\setupoutput[pdftex]
%% Activate txt in METAPOST
\useMPlibrary[txt]
%% Activate colors
\setupcolors[state=start]

% fr settings
\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\enableregime[il9]
\useencoding[ffr]
\mainlanguage[fr]

% Fonts
\usetypescriptfile[type-buy]
\loadmapfile[ec-bh-lucida.map]
\usetypescript[lucida][ec]
\setupbodyfont[lucida]

\startproject phd

\environment phdenv
\product phdprod

\stopproject
__phd.tex_end


__phdend.tex_begin
\startenvironment phdenv

\setupwhitespace[big]
\setupindenting[first,medium]
\indenting[first,always]
\setupfootertexts[part][chapter]

\stopenvironment
__phdend.tex_end


__phdprod.tex_begin
\startproduct phdprod

\project phd

\startfrontmatter
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter
\component first
\component second
\stopbodymatter

\startbackmatter
\completecontent
\stopbackmatter

\stopproduct
__phdprod.tex_end


__first.tex_begin
\startcomponent first

\part{One}
\completecontent
\chapter{First}

\section{Section1}
This is a cut-down version of the below Unicode Symbols package,
designed to be simple and usable with any pdfTeX-centric \ConTeXt\
installation. Little installation, minimal usage effort, and you gain
over a hundred symbols for use in ConTeXt. The PDF file documents how
to use the PDF native ZapfDingbats font along with a catalogue of the
available symbols, and the zip file includes all that's necessary for
an installation, including a modified encoding, a tfm file, and a
ConTeXt support file. No Unicode knowledge necessary.

This is a cut-down version of the below Unicode Symbols package,
designed to be simple and usable with any pdfTeX-centric \ConTeXt\
installation. Little installation, minimal usage effort, and you gain
over a hundred symbols for use in ConTeXt. The PDF file documents how
to use the PDF native ZapfDingbats font along with a catalogue of the
available symbols, and the zip file includes all that's necessary for
an installation, including a modified encoding, a tfm file, and a
ConTeXt support file. No Unicode knowledge necessary.

\chapter{Second}
Another test text.

\completeindex

\stopcomponent
__first.tex_end


As you can see I use \setupindenting[first,medium]
and \indenting[first,always] in my phdenv environment but the first
paragraph in my output file isn't indented. I have tried local
invocation of \setupindenting or \indenting as \par but nothing works...

What's wrong ?

I suspect that I need to improve my ConTeXt practice...

I have got my ConTeXt working with YY Lucida on GNU Linux Debian +
TeXlive2005, I can send my installation trace if it can help for
contextgarden wiki...

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[NTG-context] I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!

2005-11-28 Thread ktt

Hello,

I've installed stand-alone CONTEXT editing environment
(windows) from Pragma website.
But it reports problems, when I buil pdf's: 

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c
7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!
pdfetex: unrecognized option `--alias=context'
pdfetex: unrecognized option `--undump=cont-en'
TeXExec | runtime: 10.047

And there is no pdfetext.fmt in the package in fact.
How could I fix this problem?

regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

ktt wrote:


Hello,

I've installed stand-alone CONTEXT editing environment
(windows) from Pragma website.
But it reports problems, when I buil pdf's: 


This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c
7.5.5)
\write18 enabled.
I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!
pdfetex: unrecognized option `--alias=context'
pdfetex: unrecognized option `--undump=cont-en'
TeXExec | runtime: 10.047

And there is no pdfetext.fmt in the package in fact.
How could I fix this problem?
 



it looks like texexec detects miktex ... do you have miktex installed?

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] indentation + YandY Lucida on TeXlive2005+debian

2005-11-28 Thread Hans Hagen

Renaud AUBIN wrote:

First of all, thanks for Lucida tips... It work now with my debian 
install of texlive 2005.


I'm working now on the layout and structure of my phd thesis. Due to 
the fact that my thesis is in french I need to setup indentation of 
the first paragraph and I've got a problem with \setupindenting \indenting


I


it's now one command:

\setupindenting[medium,yes]

(the split became too fuzy when we added fancy things like first, next, 
odd, even, even)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] shading box many times

2005-11-28 Thread Vit Zyka

Hans Hagen wrote:

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Vit Zyka wrote:


Dear Metafun Wizards,

I have noticed some strange behaviour with box shading. It works OK 
until some number of shadings. Please see example:

  http://typokvitek.com/tmp/shade-many.pdf
Any idea for solving? Next not-minimal but small and illustrative 
example can help.




works ok here; since it concerns independent mp runs, i cannot 
imagine what goes wrong; mayeb a bad random numer; does your log say 
something?




My results are the same as Vit's example: The last 9 items are
not shaded but have 3 black sides and 1 white one
(with \write18 disabled, using a single \jobname-mpgraph.mp)

I don't know what is going, but at least I can reproduce the problem.




it's related to the fact that there can be 1000 specials only (this 
/1000 in mp-spec)


if you add:

\def\MPrgbnumber#1{\expandafter\doMPrgbnumber#1.0\relax}
\def\doMPrgbnumber#1.#2#3#4#5#6\relax{#2#3#4#5}

\startMPinclusions
_special_div_ := 1 ;
\stopMPinclusions

to the file, and change all 1000's in mp-spec.tex into _special_div_ it 
works ok; so, the question (for taco is): does mp have the right 


Really? Hmmm, not for me. I have got the graphics with flat color per 
picture; every picture in the sequence has lighter and lighter color 
(starting from black). (After performing your instructions in the 
mp-spec.mp and refreshing metafun.mem.)


--
\def\MPrgbnumber#1{\expandafter\doMPrgbnumber#1.0\relax}
\def\doMPrgbnumber#1.#2#3#4#5#6\relax{#2#3#4#5}

\startMPinclusions
  _special_div_ := 1 ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startuseMPgraphic{F}
  def log(expr Xstart, Xstop)=
  begingroup
save x, y, D, w, P;
pair D;
path P;
w := 2.5pt; w := w/2;
D := unitvector(Xstop-Xstart) rotated 90;
z1 = Xstart shifted (w*D);
z2 = Xstop shifted (w*D);
z3 = Xstop shifted (-w*D);
z4 = Xstart shifted (-w*D);
P := z1--z2{z2-z1}..{z4-z3}z3--z4{z4-z3}..{z2-z1}cycle;
P
  endgroup
  enddef;

  path P;
  x11 = 0;
  x12 = \overlaywidth;
  y11 = y12 = \overlayheight;
  P:= log(z11,z12); linear_shade(P,8,(1,1,1),(0,0,0)); draw P;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[F][\uniqueMPgraphic{F}]
\defineframed[F][offset=2mm,strut=yes,background=F,frame=off]

\starttext
  \noindent\dorecurse{1000}{\F{\recurselevel} }
\stoptext
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precission (it looks ok to me, unless we need to start calculating with it)

so, it may be a dangerous patch. I'll adapt spec-mp to  this new 
constant but for the moment keep the 1 in my cont-loc file


Hans
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML en-dash

2005-11-28 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hello,

I just started to experiment with typesetting XML using ConTeXt ...
I ran into this problem which I'm unable to solve:
1) I added the following rule to my xml map file:
\defineXMLentity[en]--
2) yet calling en; in my document results in the TeX equivalent of -
rather than -- being typeset.

Any pointers?

Thanks for your help,

Joh

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML, multiple attributes evaluation

2005-11-28 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hello again,

Another one:
I'm trying to expand 
\defineXMLenvironment [list]%
 {%
  \expanded{%
   \startitemize%
[%
 \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked}%
]%
  }%
 }%
 {\stopitemize}

which can deal with things like
list packed=yes
 item
 /item
/list

To something able to deal with multiple attributes (a setup statement for
now):
list packed=yes setup=n
 item
 /item
/list

I have tryed multiple incarnations of
\defineXMLenvironment [list]%
 {%
  \expanded{%
   \startitemize%
[%
 \XMLifequalelse{list}{setup}{n}{n}{},%
 \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked}%
]%
  }%
 }%
 {\stopitemize}

but this doesn't work ...

Can anybody give me any pointers here?

Thanks for time and help,

Joh

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Re: [NTG-context] I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!

2005-11-28 Thread ktt
Yes, that's true.

--- Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ktt wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I've installed stand-alone CONTEXT editing
 environment
 (windows) from Pragma website.
 But it reports problems, when I buil pdf's: 
 
 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2c
 7.5.5)
  \write18 enabled.
 I can't find the format file `pdfetex.fmt'!
 pdfetex: unrecognized option `--alias=context'
 pdfetex: unrecognized option `--undump=cont-en'
 TeXExec | runtime: 10.047
 
 And there is no pdfetext.fmt in the package in
 fact.
 How could I fix this problem?
   
 
 
 it looks like texexec detects miktex ... do you have
 miktex installed?
 
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML en-dash

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Johannes Graumann wrote:

Hello,

I just started to experiment with typesetting XML using ConTeXt ...
I ran into this problem which I'm unable to solve:
1) I added the following rule to my xml map file:
\defineXMLentity[en]--


That should have been:

  \defineXMLentity[en]{--}

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML, multiple attributes evaluation

2005-11-28 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hello Johannes,

I consider your first \XMLifequalelse command a bit strange. This
command is intented to be used if you want to convert the attribute
values into something else (e.g. "yes" into "packed").
If you need the unmodified parameter value, simply use \XMLpar.
So e.g.:

\startitemize[ \XMLpar{list}{setup}{}, \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked} ]

Of course "setup" should be a required attribute of list (in
your DTD), otherwise it would lead to something like
\startitemize[,packed] which obviously wouldn't work at all. 
If it's not the case, I'd use \doifXMLparelse:

\doifXMLparelse{list}{setup}{%
 \startitemize[ \XMLpar{list}{setup}{}, \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked} ]%
}{%
 \startitemize[1, \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked} ]
}


-Richard

From: Johannes Graumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ntg-context@ntg.nlSent: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:30:25 +0100Subject: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML, multiple attributes evaluationHello again,Another one:I'm trying to expand \defineXMLenvironment [list]% {%  \expanded{%   \startitemize%[% \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked}%]%  }% }% {\stopitemize}which can deal with things likelist packed="yes" item /item/listTo something able to deal with multiple attributes (a "setup" statement fornow):list packed="yes" setup="n" item /item/listI have tryed multiple incarnations of\defineXMLenvironment [list]% {%  \expanded{%   \startitemize%[% \XMLifequalelse{list}{setup}{n}{n}{},% \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}{packed}{unpacked}%]%  }% }% {\stopitemize}but this doesn't work ...Can anybody give me any pointers here?Thanks for time and help,Joh-- +--+| Johannes Graumann, Dipl. Biol.   ||  ||  Graduate StudentTel.: ++1 (626) 395 6602||  Deshaies LabFax.: ++1 (626) 395 5739||  Department of Biology   ||  CALTECH, M/C 156-29 ||  1200 E. California Blvd.||  Pasadena, CA 91125  ||  USA |+--+___ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML, multiple attributes evaluation

2005-11-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Johannes Graumann wrote:


but this doesn't work ...


But it worked fine for me!?

Anyway, it is probably a better idea to do it like this:

\defineXMLenvironment [list]%
 {%
  \let\listoptions\empty
  \XMLifequalelse{list}{setup}{n}
  {\appendtocommalist{n}\listoptions}
  {}%
  \XMLifequalelse{list}{packed}{yes}
  {\appendtocommalist{packed}\listoptions}
  {\appendtocommalist{unpacked}\listoptions}%
  \expanded{%
   \startitemize[\listoptions]%
  }%
 }%
 {\stopitemize}


Because that way, the xml attributes can be optional.
If it still doesn't work, please explain what goes wrong.

Greetings, Taco
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