RE: Explorer on W2k3R2 servers slow to come up after unlocking screen saver
Additionally, use Process Explorer (your debugger of choice) and see what the threads in Explorer.exe are stuck on Cheers Ken From: David [blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 4 June 2009 1:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Explorer on W2k3R2 servers slow to come up after unlocking screen saver Can you replicate the same behavior under a different profile? On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.commailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Still getting the same thing, as far as the taskbar goes. Desktop icons are there, but all I see of the taskbar is the outline. No buttons, no Quick Links, not even the clock. When it does come up and I bring up the properties, if I make a change and click apply I get an hourglass. If I close the properties window, Explorer appears to restart. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.commailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Explorer on W2k3R2 servers slow to come up after unlocking screen saver I checked the settings and the only thing on was to turn the monitor off after 20 minutes. Funny thing, when I brought it up this time, the desktop icons were there and you could see the outline of the taskbar, but no buttons. I tried opening and closing task manager, then I opened Explorer by double-clicking on My Computer. When I closed the explorer, then the taskbar looked normal. I'll try it again after awhile and see if the power setting change made a difference. From: richardmccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Explorer on W2k3R2 servers slow to come up after unlocking screen saver Have you checked the power settings in the screen saver section? The NIC properties? Sometimes other parts of a system will be put into a non-active state after a period. Why this happens on a server OS is beyond me, but I'd check those first. As to the shortage of fishing poles, some of us know of an admin considering selling his fishing pole after having used it to through a practice plug through a 42 LCD TV... -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richardmccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.commailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote on 06/02/2009 10:55:59 AM: Has anyone had any issues with Windows 2003 R2 servers taking a long time for the desktop to come up after unlocking the console from a screen saver time out? I'm seeing this on a few of our servers, but can't put my finger on exactly when it started happening. I'm not seeing any of the resources getting pegged. What I'm seeing is when I log in from a time-out, I show a blank desktop, no task-bar, no icons, nuttin'. I can get the task manager to come up, and sometimes when I close out the task manager the desktop will go ahead and come up. Really weird... anyone else? If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. - Doug Larson Paul -- David _ We are summoned to act in wisdom and in conscience, to work with industry, to teach with persuasion, to preach with conviction, to weigh our every deed with care and compassion. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Windows 7 to RTM in July....
...and available from retailers Oct 22. http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/02/technology/microsoft_windows.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009060215 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Smartphone
Samsung Saga = TVK in a dress Shook From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Smartphone Love my Samsung Saga. From: hank [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Smartphone I have an Omnia (on VZW) for ~ 4 months and like it. A good friend got one after he saw mine and he likes his too. I would say most of the complaints are likely related to calibrating the touch screen. It only takes a few minutes but you might have to do it a few times. BT works well and so does voice calling. I also noticed it has comparable RF performance to phones I have had that I thought performed well. From: bounce-8557899-8231...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8557899-8231...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 08:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Smartphone I'm looking for a new smartphone/pda and I remember some discussions on here recently so I figure I can get some good opinions. I missed an important event last night so I need something to carry with me that can sync with my outlook calendar. I'm in a contract with Verizon for another 18 months, just got a plain ole dumb phone and so I'm going to have to buy on fleabay or some other second source to get a decent price. I've been looking at the Samsung Omnia, but the support guy at our local store said they had seen lots of returns of those. I've found a few negative comments online re this one but most are positive. Anyone here have experience with this one, good or bad.. Any other recommendations for a phone that works with VZ? Don't want a keyboard, like the BB or the slider on the HTC 6700 or 6800. Touch screen is fine. Music playback with Bluetooth is a plus as well as memory expansion. I don't like the fact that the Omnia doesn't have a standard 3.5mm earphone jack but I can live with that omission. Thanks guys and gals. Content Policy Scan by M+ Guardian Millions of safe clean messages delivered daily ---AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM)--- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
+1 We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. We have installed a temp/humidity alarm that will alert the hospital operator (we don't man i/s 24x7) who will page I/S and Plant Ops if it goes off. On that same note, we called HP (we use DL 380's) and they said max temp is 95F. From: tvanderk...@expl.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:59:04 -0500 Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. Once the humidity in your data center goes below 40% the chance of static electricity building starts to climb fast. I have yet to see it snow in a server room, but I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. I run my centers at 71 degrees F and 50% humidity. TVK From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS That depends. I operate a data center in Phoenix, and it gets plenty hot here. I was under the impression that a server room at 68 degrees was optimal, but when I conducted further research several months ago, it appears 85 degrees is just fine too assuming proper air flow, failovers, and architecture. Personally, I stick to 74 degrees or so because I have older equipment. I know Google runs at about 85 degrees, but they also use a commodity home-brew server per their own specs. Links: http://www.adc.com/Library/Literature/102264AE.pdf ASHRAE's Thermal Guidelines for Data Processing Environments[4] recommends a temperature range of 20–25 °C (68–75 °F) and humidity range of 40–55% with a maximum dew point of 17°C as optimal for data center conditions.[5] http://wistechnology.com/articles/4074/ “Because the average temperature [in data centers] will rise from the standard 68 [degrees Fahrenheit] to over 85 F in about 8.6 minutes when a problem arises from, for example, a power outage or an air-conditioning failure, the staff in charge must be alerted and take immediate action,” Sigourney says. “With the critical shutdown threshold for most equipment is universally agreed to be at 85 F, the best response would be to use the automatic server shut-down capabilities included with AVTECH’s PageR Enterprise software to eliminate risk by shutting down the most expensive and critical hardware when extreme conditions occur.” and finally http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/03/23/will-server-warranties-get-hotter-too/ From: Murray Freeman [mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS Like many companies these days, we're looking to reduce our expenses. With the hot weather almost here in the Chicago area, I'm being asked to up the thermostat in our server room, to allow it to get warmer and thus save some money. We have been keeping the temperature around the mid 70's, and I'm concerned about higher temps in the server room causing servers to crash or at least reduce their lifetime. What od you think is the maximum operating temperature for a room with servers? We humans are not in the room that often, so it's strictly a case of a safe temperature for the hardware. There's no need to determine how many servers I have or how large the room is, just the temperature necessary to safely operate servers. Murray _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Kayako Helpldesk
We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
I assume max temp = max room temp, not actual server temp? From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS +1 We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. We have installed a temp/humidity alarm that will alert the hospital operator (we don't man i/s 24x7) who will page I/S and Plant Ops if it goes off. On that same note, we called HP (we use DL 380's) and they said max temp is 95F. From: tvanderk...@expl.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:59:04 -0500 Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. Once the humidity in your data center goes below 40% the chance of static electricity building starts to climb fast. I have yet to see it snow in a server room, but I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. I run my centers at 71 degrees F and 50% humidity. TVK From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS That depends. I operate a data center in Phoenix, and it gets plenty hot here. I was under the impression that a server room at 68 degrees was optimal, but when I conducted further research several months ago, it appears 85 degrees is just fine too assuming proper air flow, failovers, and architecture. Personally, I stick to 74 degrees or so because I have older equipment. I know Google runs at about 85 degrees, but they also use a commodity home-brew server per their own specs. Links: http://www.adc.com/Library/Literature/102264AE.pdf ASHRAE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASHRAE 's Thermal Guidelines for Data Processing Environments[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center#cite_note-3 recommends a temperature range of 20-25 °C (68-75 °F) and humidity range of 40-55% with a maximum dew point of 17°C as optimal for data center conditions.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center#cite_note-4 http://wistechnology.com/articles/4074/ Because the average temperature [in data centers] will rise from the standard 68 [degrees Fahrenheit] to over 85 F in about 8.6 minutes when a problem arises from, for example, a power outage or an air-conditioning failure, the staff in charge must be alerted and take immediate action, Sigourney says. With the critical shutdown threshold for most equipment is universally agreed to be at 85 F, the best response would be to use the automatic server shut-down capabilities included with AVTECH's PageR Enterprise software to eliminate risk by shutting down the most expensive and critical hardware when extreme conditions occur. and finally http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/03/23/will-server-warranties-get-hotter-too/ From: Murray Freeman [mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS Like many companies these days, we're looking to reduce our expenses. With the hot weather almost here in the Chicago area, I'm being asked to up the thermostat in our server room, to allow it to get warmer and thus save some money. We have been keeping the temperature around the mid 70's, and I'm concerned about higher temps in the server room causing servers to crash or at least reduce their lifetime. What od you think is the maximum operating temperature for a room with servers? We humans are not in the room that often, so it's strictly a case of a safe temperature for the hardware. There's no need to determine how many servers I have or how large the room is, just the temperature necessary to safely operate servers. Murray Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Kayako Helpldesk
At another job I used Remedy help desk. Very good ticketing system. I have no idea how hard it is to set up or create new ticket forms, as I did not do that part of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Strange folder view
Maybe 4 or 5 years ago there were some proof of concepts on exploits that had desktop.ini executing code that was in the folder it was in. I don't recall any use of it in the real world and I don't know if it was addressed. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange folder view Come to think of it, I wonder if there are any security exposures from DESKTOP.INI. I know it can reference a DLL to obtain a localized string... I wonder if it can also run code? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
GPO issue
I am setting a desktop background for some test VDI workstations via GPO using the Active Desktop Wallpaper setting. The GPO needs the Active Desktop setting enabled to work. However, when you enable the Active Desktop setting, the drop shadows for icons settings disappears. Even setting the registry key HKCU\Software\MS\Windows\ CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\ListViewShadow to the required 1 doesn't make the transparent icon text appear. Disabling Active Desktop brings the drop shadows back - however, my desktop wallpaper is now gone. has anyone managed to force a desktop wallpaper via GPO that maintains the drop shadow icon settings on XP? Or would I need to set it some other way? I have tried setting the registry keys for wallpaper using reg.exe but they seem to apply after the user logs back out, for some reason. TIA, JRR *On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.* ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right! Another good site to wile away the time... :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough... Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose, natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went live a little while ago. Go ask it: Are you Skynet? Then ask it to open the pod bay doors. It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter eggs. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
Yes Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:38:14 -0400 From: david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I assume max temp = max room temp, not actual server temp? From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS +1 We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. We have installed a temp/humidity alarm that will alert the hospital operator (we don't man i/s 24x7) who will page I/S and Plant Ops if it goes off. On that same note, we called HP (we use DL 380's) and they said max temp is 95F. From: tvanderk...@expl.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:59:04 -0500 Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. Once the humidity in your data center goes below 40% the chance of static electricity building starts to climb fast. I have yet to see it snow in a server room, but I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. I run my centers at 71 degrees F and 50% humidity. TVK From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS That depends. I operate a data center in Phoenix, and it gets plenty hot here. I was under the impression that a server room at 68 degrees was optimal, but when I conducted further research several months ago, it appears 85 degrees is just fine too assuming proper air flow, failovers, and architecture. Personally, I stick to 74 degrees or so because I have older equipment. I know Google runs at about 85 degrees, but they also use a commodity home-brew server per their own specs. Links: http://www.adc.com/Library/Literature/102264AE.pdf ASHRAE's Thermal Guidelines for Data Processing Environments[4] recommends a temperature range of 20–25 °C (68–75 °F) and humidity range of 40–55% with a maximum dew point of 17°C as optimal for data center conditions.[5] http://wistechnology.com/articles/4074/ “Because the average temperature [in data centers] will rise from the standard 68 [degrees Fahrenheit] to over 85 F in about 8.6 minutes when a problem arises from, for example, a power outage or an air-conditioning failure, the staff in charge must be alerted and take immediate action,” Sigourney says. “With the critical shutdown threshold for most equipment is universally agreed to be at 85 F, the best response would be to use the automatic server shut-down capabilities included with AVTECH’s PageR Enterprise software to eliminate risk by shutting down the most expensive and critical hardware when extreme conditions occur.” and finally http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/03/23/will-server-warranties-get-hotter-too/ From: Murray Freeman [mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS Like many companies these days, we're looking to reduce our expenses. With the hot weather almost here in the Chicago area, I'm being asked to up the thermostat in our server room, to allow it to get warmer and thus save some money. We have been keeping the temperature around the mid 70's, and I'm concerned about higher temps in the server room causing servers to crash or at least reduce their lifetime. What od you think is the maximum operating temperature for a room with servers? We humans are not in the room that often, so it's strictly a case of a safe temperature for the hardware. There's no need to determine how many servers I have or how large the room is, just the temperature necessary to safely operate servers. Murray Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
On Tue, 2 Jun, 2009 at 16:59, tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. ... I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. I've been told that the primary difference between a regular air conditioner and a CRAC (computer room air conditioner) is that a CRAC is designed to lower the temperature while keeping the humidity at a more suitable level. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Notable event for October 14, 1979: Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler) Woo hoo! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right! Another good site to wile away the time... :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough... Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose, natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went live a little while ago. Go ask it: Are you Skynet? Then ask it to open the pod bay doors. It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter eggs. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
G4L (Ghost 4 Linux) is your friend on this. 100% free / Open Source project. http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l download the ISO, burn it and boot off it and you're good to go. Remember, you'll need to use Sysprep or something similar as G4L doesn't have that included. All it'll do is image the partition/drive and save the image or take the image and put it on another machine. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Kayako Helpldesk
Remedy can be very good if customized well. That often seems to be $expensive. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk At another job I used Remedy help desk. Very good ticketing system. I have no idea how hard it is to set up or create new ticket forms, as I did not do that part of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
CRAC's are big, noisy and blow a lot of things around if it's not secured..and keeps the humidity levels stable. When ours was installed a couple of years ago, I was doing some serious praying...we didn't know for sure that it would roll across our raised floor without collapsing it, and that would have been very bad. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun, 2009 at 16:59, tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. ... I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. I've been told that the primary difference between a regular air conditioner and a CRAC (computer room air conditioner) is that a CRAC is designed to lower the temperature while keeping the humidity at a more suitable level. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click... -sc From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Notable event for October 14, 1979: Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler) Woo hoo! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right! Another good site to wile away the time... :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough... Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose, natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went live a little while ago. Go ask it: Are you Skynet? Then ask it to open the pod bay doors. It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter eggs. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
I did the same thing...but didn't click on more digits On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That “more digits” link is interesting after about the 5th click… -sc *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Notable event for October 14, 1979: Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler) Woo hoo! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right! Another good site to wile away the time... :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough... Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose, natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went live a little while ago. Go ask it: Are you Skynet? Then ask it to open the pod bay doors. It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter eggs. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Click it too many times and you get:
Column[{Null,{}}[[2,1]],ItemSize-infinity]
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi
That “more digits” link is interesting after about the 5th click…
-sc
*From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Notable event for October 14, 1979:
Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler)
Woo hoo!
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:
Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right!
Another good site to wile away the time... :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough...
Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose,
natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those
things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you
would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went
live a little while ago.
Go ask it: Are you Skynet?
Then ask it to open the pod bay doors.
It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a
woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the
Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter
eggs.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
It's official: Wolfram Alpha is a nerd. It knew that 8675309 was a prime number, but not that it was Jenny's number. -sc From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha I did the same thing...but didn't click on more digits On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click... -sc From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Notable event for October 14, 1979: Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler) Woo hoo! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com wrote: Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right! Another good site to wile away the time... :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough... Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose, natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went live a little while ago. Go ask it: Are you Skynet? Then ask it to open the pod bay doors. It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter eggs. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Strange folder view
Bingo. Deleted the desktop.ini file from each of the folders and the real name now show. I'm sure it will be back sooner or later but at least I now know why. Thanks. Glen. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Strange folder view On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote: This is a display of home folders from a windows 2008 server. The DESKTOP.INI file can override the name of the folder it's in and tell the OS to display something else. The intent was for localized names, I believe. So, e.g., the Music folder shows up as Music for me, but might be Música for Spanish locale, or 音乐 for Chinese. It can also implement magic where folder names appear differently depending on who's viewing them. My account BSCOTT shows My Documents, but if JSMITH views my folder he'll see BSCOTT's Documents. In Vista, of course, the first-person possessive pronoun was dropped, so My Documents is just Documents. I bet that's what's doing this. I dunno of a fix, short of disabling DESKTOP.INI entirely, and I don't even know a good way to do that. I suspect the registry redirection trick used to kill AUTORUN.INF might work for DESKTOP.INI, too, though. Come to think of it, I wonder if there are any security exposures from DESKTOP.INI. I know it can reference a DLL to obtain a localized string... I wonder if it can also run code? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Indeed. ;-)
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Click it too many times and you get:
Column[{Null,{}}[[2,1]],ItemSize-infinity]
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi
That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click...
-sc
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Notable event for October 14, 1979:
Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler)
Woo hoo!
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:
Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right!
Another good site to wile away the time... :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough...
Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose,
natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those
things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you
would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went
live a little while ago.
Go ask it: Are you Skynet?
Then ask it to open the pod bay doors.
It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a
woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the
Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter
eggs.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
We like Symantec System Recovery. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
That just shows that they have very large amounts of storage, since they
can store infinity.
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Click it too many times and you get:
Column[{Null,{}}[[2,1]],ItemSize-infinity]
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi
That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click...
-sc
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Notable event for October 14, 1979:
Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler)
Woo hoo!
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:
Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right!
Another good site to wile away the time... :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough...
Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose,
natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those
things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you
would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went
live a little while ago.
Go ask it: Are you Skynet?
Then ask it to open the pod bay doors.
It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a
woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the
Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter
eggs.
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Kayako Helpldesk
Well, we had a guy who knew how to customize it when I was there, so any time we needed a new form, he created it for us. :-) And Remedy itself is not cheap, I know. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk Remedy can be very good if customized well. That often seems to be $expensive. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk At another job I used Remedy help desk. Very good ticketing system. I have no idea how hard it is to set up or create new ticket forms, as I did not do that part of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS
I hear ya. We put in a big Leibert and the first I noticed was just how noisy it was. That's when I started keeping my office door closed. I didn't want to retire and find out I'd lost some of hearing due to the constant noise from the a/c. Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:20:43 -0500 Subject: Re: PROPER OPERATING TEMPERATURES FOR SERVERS From: saber...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com CRAC's are big, noisy and blow a lot of things around if it's not secured..and keeps the humidity levels stable. When ours was installed a couple of years ago, I was doing some serious praying...we didn't know for sure that it would roll across our raised floor without collapsing it, and that would have been very bad. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun, 2009 at 16:59, tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: The part that I find most admins miss in the specs mentioned is the humidity. When you are running the A/C in a room almost constantly the humidity tends to drop fairly quickly. ... I have seen plenty of servers over the years taken out by a static charge. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: We have ours around 65 and 50 for humidity. I've been told that the primary difference between a regular air conditioner and a CRAC (computer room air conditioner) is that a CRAC is designed to lower the temperature while keeping the humidity at a more suitable level. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
I use winPE and imageX from Microsoft with a standardized image. My PCs are up and running in 20 minutes. Mark Minasi has a good description in his newsletters http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws0701.htm kind regards Doris Trimmel-Wyss Stabstelle EDV Verein für Konsumenteninformation ZVR: 389759993 A-1060 Wien, Linke Wienzeile 18 Tel: (+43 1) 58877-249 / Fax: (+43 1) 58877-74 dtrimmel-w...@vki.at Alle Testergebnisse und viele interessante Berichte zu Verbraucherthemen finden Sie auf unseren Websites: www.konsument.at www.europakonsument.at www.verbraucherrecht.at -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
WMI LastBootUpTime
I was running an SMS query and found that 4 of our servers were not showing any value for this attribute. At first I thought it was an SMS issue, but eventually found that the value is null on the client. Everything else from the Win32_OperatingSystem class looks normal on these machines, as do the rest of the WMI classes. Just the LastBootUpTime is Null. Anyone run into this before? Thanks, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Kayako Helpldesk
I'll take a peek to remedy, I used it before a long time ago. Webhelpdesk wants crazy money like 30K ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That “more digits” link is interesting after about the 5th click… Hmmm, it appears that, like the cake, pi is also a lie... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Same issue:
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ea=*C.e-_*NamedConstant-
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Click it too many times and you get:
Column[{Null,{}}[[2,1]],ItemSize-infinity]
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi
That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click...
-sc
From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Notable event for October 14, 1979:
Birth of Stacy Keibler (wrestler)
Woo hoo!
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.com
wrote:
Neat... I even tried all your base belong to us. It got it right!
Another good site to wile away the time... :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Okay, so it's not quite Friday yet, but close enough...
Wolfram Alpha http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is a general-purpose,
natural-language knowledge retrieval system. You know, one of those
things where you're supposed to be able to ask a question like you
would a fellow human, and get back a useful response. It just went
live a little while ago.
Go ask it: Are you Skynet?
Then ask it to open the pod bay doors.
It also knows the meaning of life, and the amount of wood a
woodchuck can chuck, and quite a few other things. Much of the
Internet has apparently spent quite a bit of time looking for easter
eggs.
-- Ben
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RE: Kind of OT: PDF to Word converters
We used this product and it worked shockingly well. http://www.nuance.com/imaging/products/pdfconverter.asp Cheers! Cameron ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Kayako Helpldesk
We're using remedy now - all the tools - Incident, Knowledge, Problem, coming soon Runbook automation. Version 7.1 of Incident Management. It's really tight with ITIL and has a learning curve but you can definietly Task, Assign, track, report, email, etc. so it seems to be a good tool for the help desk and users (with self service). Don K - Original Message From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:22:42 AM Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk I'll take a peek to remedy, I used it before a long time ago. Webhelpdesk wants crazy money like 30K ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Kind of OT: PDF to Word converters
I've just spent 4 weeks dealing with their tech support :( Uninstall, reinstall, use their removal tools, reinstall, uninstall, install latest version, Turn off DEF, turn off UAC, send us your system information and all I got back was 'We still don't know why it doesn't work! When it works it's good - when it doesn't, fix it yourself! ...Spence -Original Message- From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 June 2009 15:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kind of OT: PDF to Word converters We used this product and it worked shockingly well. http://www.nuance.com/imaging/products/pdfconverter.asp Cheers! Cameron ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Kayako Helpldesk
Yep. Very powerful, and very expensive (particularly for a tailored solution.) -- ME2 On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Remedy can be very good if customized well. That often seems to be $expensive. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk At another job I used Remedy help desk. Very good ticketing system. I have no idea how hard it is to set up or create new ticket forms, as I did not do that part of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
The cake is indeed a lie! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click... Hmmm, it appears that, like the cake, pi is also a lie... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: WMI LastBootUpTime
I've never investigated this, but I do wonder what Sysinternals' BGInfo has to say - I wonder if it gets its info from the same place. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 07:07, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I was running an SMS query and found that 4 of our servers were not showing any value for this attribute. At first I thought it was an SMS issue, but eventually found that the value is null on the client. Everything else from the Win32_OperatingSystem class looks normal on these machines, as do the rest of the WMI classes. Just the LastBootUpTime is Null. Anyone run into this before? Thanks, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: WMI LastBootUpTime
Googling bginfo boot ti� brings up a few items, but not about the value being null. Might help though. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WMI LastBootUpTime I've never investigated this, but I do wonder what Sysinternals' BGInfo has to say - I wonder if it gets its info from the same place. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 07:07, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I was running an SMS query and found that 4 of our servers were not showing any value for this attribute. At first I thought it was an SMS issue, but eventually found that the value is null on the client. Everything else from the Win32_OperatingSystem class looks normal on these machines, as do the rest of the WMI classes. Just the LastBootUpTime is Null. Anyone run into this before? Thanks, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:00 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality ... For payware, I like Acronis TrueImage these days. It's very GUI, and all functionality is available from the bootable CD. The UI is a little quirky at times, but the underlying image functions seem rock-solid. For free and Free, I use PartImage on the SystemRescueCd (http://www.sysresccd.org/). SystemRescueCd is a free, Linux-based, bootable CD. SystemRescueCd has the software needed to connect to a Windows network, and/or USB hard drives. To mount a Windows share (analogous to mapping a drive letter), do something like: mkdir /mnt/tmp mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt/tmp (Directory separators on Linux are forward slashes.) PartImage is NTFS aware, so that it only backs up disk blocks that are allocated for files. (It supports other filesystems, too.) I don't think PartImage is smart enough to exclude paging or hibernation files. You may be able to save space in the image by removing those before creating the image. PartImage works at the partition level, not the disk level. So if you need to create an image of a whole disk, you need to use PartImage to create an image of each partition, and then manually grab a copy of the MBR (Master Boot Record). You can use the dd command to create such an image: dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/my/images/mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 (/dev/sda is the first disk for most systems. It might be /dev/hda for older IDE systems. /dev/sdb would be the second. You get the idea.) To restore the MBR, reverse the order of the input file (if) and output file (of) parameters. Be warned that dd will always do exactly what you tell it to do, even if it's dumb or dangerous. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: WMI LastBootUpTime
Should read bginfo boot time. :) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: WMI LastBootUpTime Googling bginfo boot ti brings up a few items, but not about the value being null. Might help though. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: WMI LastBootUpTime I've never investigated this, but I do wonder what Sysinternals' BGInfo has to say - I wonder if it gets its info from the same place. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 07:07, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: I was running an SMS query and found that 4 of our servers were not showing any value for this attribute. At first I thought it was an SMS issue, but eventually found that the value is null on the client. Everything else from the Win32_OperatingSystem class looks normal on these machines, as do the rest of the WMI classes. Just the LastBootUpTime is Null. Anyone run into this before? Thanks, Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha
Oh but it isn't. It's been on the shelf all along -sc -Original Message- From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Wolfram Alpha The cake is indeed a lie! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Wolfram Alpha On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: http://www37.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi That more digits link is interesting after about the 5th click... Hmmm, it appears that, like the cake, pi is also a lie... -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
G4L *is* smart enough to do a whole disk or a single partition. It is also a bootable linux CD. :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:00 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality ... For payware, I like Acronis TrueImage these days. It's very GUI, and all functionality is available from the bootable CD. The UI is a little quirky at times, but the underlying image functions seem rock-solid. For free and Free, I use PartImage on the SystemRescueCd (http://www.sysresccd.org/). SystemRescueCd is a free, Linux-based, bootable CD. SystemRescueCd has the software needed to connect to a Windows network, and/or USB hard drives. To mount a Windows share (analogous to mapping a drive letter), do something like: mkdir /mnt/tmp mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt/tmp (Directory separators on Linux are forward slashes.) PartImage is NTFS aware, so that it only backs up disk blocks that are allocated for files. (It supports other filesystems, too.) I don't think PartImage is smart enough to exclude paging or hibernation files. You may be able to save space in the image by removing those before creating the image. PartImage works at the partition level, not the disk level. So if you need to create an image of a whole disk, you need to use PartImage to create an image of each partition, and then manually grab a copy of the MBR (Master Boot Record). You can use the dd command to create such an image: dd if=/dev/sda of=/path/to/my/images/mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 (/dev/sda is the first disk for most systems. It might be /dev/hda for older IDE systems. /dev/sdb would be the second. You get the idea.) To restore the MBR, reverse the order of the input file (if) and output file (of) parameters. Be warned that dd will always do exactly what you tell it to do, even if it's dumb or dangerous. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Kayako Helpldesk
Yeah - I'm sure its expensive - for enterprise use and scale - we did use it out of the box this time without modifications to keep it simple, so to speak. From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 9:57:43 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yep. Very powerful, and very expensive (particularly for a tailored solution.) -- ME2 On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Remedy can be very good if customized well. That often seems to be $expensive. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Kayako Helpldesk At another job I used Remedy help desk. Very good ticketing system. I have no idea how hard it is to set up or create new ticket forms, as I did not do that part of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Greene [mailto:maill...@webjogger.net] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk We evaluated Kayako and found the ticketing system quite good. However, its support for associating those tickets with tasks is quite limited, and if you will need to find a 3rd party solution to integrate with if you want to track inventory as well. - Original Message - From: Carlos Garcia-Moran cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Kayako Helpldesk Yeah Ive looked at those before but wanted products with more features. On another note are we having lyris issues? I'm not getting any emails at all from the list, but the WebUI works fine ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Mac Anti-Malware
What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware Thats a good question. The most common answer youre going to find is we dont need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so its available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Mac Anti-Malware
Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: That’s a good question. The most common answer you’re going to find is “we don’t need antivirus/anti-malware.” For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the “usual suspects”: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner “antivirus.com”) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it’s available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Mac Anti-Malware
Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That’s a good question. The most common answer you’re going to find is “we don’t need antivirus/anti-malware.” For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the “usual suspects”: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner “antivirus.com”) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it’s available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
+1 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac Anti-Malware Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com http://antivirus.com/ ) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Mac Anti-Malware
I have heard the same suggestion made. It is supposed to be a very good product and for a 1 off, I would lean in that direction. At work, we corporately use McAfee across the board, on PC and Mac clients, and have no issues with it. Andrew On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That’s a good question. The most common answer you’re going to find is “we don’t need antivirus/anti-malware.” For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the “usual suspects”: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner “antivirus.com”) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it’s available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
Fw: A new era of Mac hacks?
This just in since there's a Mac thread going John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: Threat Monitor To: John Cook Sent: Thu Jun 04 13:05:14 2009 Subject: A new era of Mac hacks? June 04, 2009 Published by SearchSecurity.comhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441194/1852829 Current Threats [http://media.techtarget.com/searchSecurity/images/header_logo.gif]http://go.techtarget.com/r/7441195/1852829 Mac OS memory flaws pose challenges for enterprise endpoint protectionhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441196/1852829 Dee-Ann LeBlanc, Contributor At the recent Source Boston security conference, researcher Dino Dai Zovi shared a presentation on the hackability of Mac OS X that's caused quite a stir. According to Dai Zovi, a noted author and Mac security expert, easy access to the root memory in Apple Inc.'s operating system makes it trivial for malicious attackers to take over a Mac system, establish a TCP connection and download additional malicious code. Read morehttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441197/1852829 Get this tip via our RSS feedhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441198/1852829 Listen to this tip on your favorite mp3 playerhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441199/1852829 ALSO ON SEARCHSECURITY.COM Interview with Macbook hacker Dino Dai Zovihttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441200/1852829 Macbook hacker and financial services industry consultant Dino Dai Zovi knows security from both sides. In this Information Security magazine interview, he discusses his Mac exploits and his efforts toward quantifying enterprise risk. Also, check out this video on the Mac OS attackhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441201/1852829 Sign up for more e-newsletters from SearchSecurty.comhttp://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/tieredRegPage/1,294138,sid14,00.html?track=NL-427ad=705975 SearchSecurity.com offers many timely and informative newsletters. Sign up today for our monthly Risk Management Strategies tip, covering the intersection of business risk and security program management. Edit your preferences to sign up for all our newsletters!http://go.techtarget.com/r/7441202/1852829 ADVERTISEMENT Must-Have Resources for IT Security Pros http://go.techtarget.com/r/7441203/1852829 Take advantage of all SearchSecurity.com has to offer: * Expert webcasts, podcasts and videoshttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441204/1852829 * Online security schools offering CPE creditshttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441205/1852829 * IT Security RSS feedshttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441206/1852829 * IT security technical tipshttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441207/1852829 * And more!http://go.techtarget.com/r/7441208/1852829 [http://media.techtarget.com/digitalguide/images/Misc/nl_itke_logo.gif] Need current threat advice and answers? Ask your own questionhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441209/1852829 or browse thousands of IT answers on IT Knowledge Exchange. ABOUT THIS E-NEWSLETTER [http://searchtechtarget.techtarget.com/images/ttlogofooter_white-lg.gif] Get Information Security magazine? Answer 12 quick questions and start a FREE subscription: http://www.omeda.com/cgi-win/insec.cgi?mode=lgadp=YHL87http://go.techtarget.com/r/7441210/1852829 This e-newsletter is published by SearchSecurity.com, part of the TechTarget network. TechTarget provides IT professionals with the resources they need to perform their jobs: Web sites, newsletters, forums, blogs, white papers, webcasts, events and more. Copyright 2009 TechTargethttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441211/1852829. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. We're sending you this information based on the Topics you selected in your TechTarget Member Profile. To unsubscribe, click herehttp://searchSecurity.techtarget.com/u?track=NL-427em=john.cook%40pfsf.orguid=1852829eid=705975;. Unsubscribe requests may take up to 24 hours to process; you may receive additional mailings during that time. A confirmation e-mail will be sent when your request has been successfully processed. Please note, this will not affect any other subscriptions you have signed up for. Contact Us: SearchSecurity.com Member Services 117 Kendrick Street, Suite 800 Needham, MA 02494 Contact: webmas...@techtarget.commailto:webmas...@techtarget.com When you access content from this newsletter, your information may be shared with the sponsors or future sponsors of that content as described in our Privacy Policy: PRIV LINKhttp://go.techtarget.com/r/7441212/1852829 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material.
SMS gateway products
For those of you running SMS software on an Internet facing server, what product(s) are you running\supporting so your servers can process text messages? Thx 4 ur hlp. (Dang,�m freak� hilarious) Shook ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
Here we use Sophos Antivirus which has a MAC client, we have very few MAC's here but it seems to work fine and gets updates automatically through the same system that updates all the Windows clients. From: Andrew Laya [mailto:andrew.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac Anti-Malware I have heard the same suggestion made. It is supposed to be a very good product and for a 1 off, I would lean in that direction. At work, we corporately use McAfee across the board, on PC and Mac clients, and have no issues with it. Andrew On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.commailto:saber...@gmail.com wrote: Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think :)) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.comhttp://antivirus.com/) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. :) [cid:image001.jpg@01C9E4FD.611BF210][cid:image002@01c9e4fd.611bf210] From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States - Key Technology, Inc. Disclaimer Notice - The information and attachment(s) contained in this communication are intended for the addressee only, and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately, and delete this communication from any computer or network system. Any interception, review, printing, copying, re-transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. Key Technology, Inc. is not liable for the improper and/or incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication or for any delay in its receipt. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.jpg
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
*nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't automatically have admin privileges the way you do in the Windows world. By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to infect the O/S. Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do not give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not familiar with *all* variants, so I'm saying most to cover my butt) you have to be root or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install software. In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced privileges.) That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
Yeah, I use KlamAV at home (uses ClamAV in the background, with the GUI interface being a KDE util, thus the K in KlamAV.) John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac Anti-Malware Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com http://antivirus.com/ ) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
Thanks for the pointers, all. I'll check these options out. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
+1 From: Andrew Laya [mailto:andrew.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac Anti-Malware I have heard the same suggestion made. It is supposed to be a very good product and for a 1 off, I would lean in that direction. At work, we corporately use McAfee across the board, on PC and Mac clients, and have no issues with it. Andrew On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Our Mac guru here recommends ClamAV, or actually for the Mac version I think it's ClamXAV. Free, open source, certainly worth looking into. It's what he uses at home on his personal Macs. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Well the user in question has repeatly stated that he does not need AV but the Univeristy just said make it so (cutting out his argument that he does not need any). That said we will not install anything from Symantec after the last time we used their stuff and had it NOT find viruses. McAfee may be an option but not one I was hoping to see. Jon On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com http://antivirus.com/ ) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Haslet, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Finding a neddle in a haystack
The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Command prompt from a windows machine that would be aware of/ has connected to the MAC address. arp -a The switches and routers in the environment would also have this info in their arp tables. From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He’s begun to fixate on a system I can’t positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it’s the hosted web server, but I don’t have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn’t replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure “That’s the Webhost?” You're going to have to describe the network a bit more before we can say too much about that. However, I'll say that Wireshark is your friend - especially the version you find at www.portableapps.com Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Can you outline the topology? The SQL server is at the client site (behind a DMZ?), and the web server is co-located at a web hosting company? Is that correct? Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 _ From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
OK, maybe I'm a bit dense today, but I don't see Wireshark at portableapps.com ... Got any pointers ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He’s begun to fixate on a system I can’t positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it’s the hosted web server, but I don’t have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn’t replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure “That’s the Webhost?” You're going to have to describe the network a bit more before we can say too much about that. However, I'll say that Wireshark is your friend - especially the version you find at www.portableapps.com Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
OK, nevermind ... They don't include it in portableapps , but point to a portable version on sourceforge.net ...thanks Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He’s begun to fixate on a system I can’t positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it’s the hosted web server, but I don’t have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn’t replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure “That’s the Webhost?” You're going to have to describe the network a bit more before we can say too much about that. However, I'll say that Wireshark is your friend - especially the version you find at www.portableapps.com Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
Well the first internet malware was a UNIX worm... In any case, I'd be careful asserting that for the most part based on UNIX = not susceptible to malware. I've been admin around UNIX-based boxen for years... and all the system vendors put out security patches... many of which can be exploitable... -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware *nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't automatically have admin privileges the way you do in the Windows world. By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to infect the O/S. Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do not give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not familiar with *all* variants, so I'm saying most to cover my butt) you have to be root or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install software. In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced privileges.) That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Depending on your type of network switch, you can do a show mac-address (on Cisco anyway) and it will tell you the switchport that the mac address is connected to. You can track it down that way. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 15:08 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack OK, maybe I'm a bit dense today, but I don't see Wireshark at portableapps.com ... Got any pointers ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? You're going to have to describe the network a bit more before we can say too much about that. However, I'll say that Wireshark is your friend - especially the version you find at www.portableapps.com Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
On the same subnet? If so, ping-sweep the subnet and then check your local arp cache. -sc From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Given what little detail the OP posted, it seems unlikely that the MAC address will be present on any switch he can examine. Wireshark listening to a monitor/span port will allow him to pinpoint the IP address that's talking on port 1733, though. That would certainly be helpful. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:19, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: Depending on your type of network switch, you can do a show mac-address (on Cisco anyway) and it will tell you the switchport that the mac address is connected to. You can track it down that way. *** John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: jckel...@drmc.org *** -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 15:08 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack OK, maybe I'm a bit dense today, but I don't see Wireshark at portableapps.com ... Got any pointers ? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? You're going to have to describe the network a bit more before we can say too much about that. However, I'll say that Wireshark is your friend - especially the version you find at www.portableapps.com Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
-Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack Got any pointers ? *6076AD007 Shook Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
So, that was kind of nettling you, eh? From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack Can't stand it any longer, the correct spelling is needle. Thank you, I feel better now. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack Got any pointers ? *6076AD007 Shook Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack
http://slashweb.org/programming/25-best-programmer-webcomic-strips.html On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:26, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack Got any pointers ? *6076AD007 Shook Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
I never said they weren't susceptible to malware, just that they are LESS susceptible to malware. Less =/=0 :-) I specifically said That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. Just a clarification as it appears you misread my post. J -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware Well the first internet malware was a UNIX worm... In any case, I'd be careful asserting that for the most part based on UNIX = not susceptible to malware. I've been admin around UNIX-based boxen for years... and all the system vendors put out security patches... many of which can be exploitable... -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware *nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't automatically have admin privileges the way you do in the Windows world. By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to infect the O/S. Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do not give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not familiar with *all* variants, so I'm saying most to cover my butt) you have to be root or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install software. In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced privileges.) That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging
Yea, although I am a FOSS advocate, G4L has too many limitations with NTFS. WinPE is free, adding driver support is trivial, and imagex is fast. jlc -Original Message- From: Trimmel-Wyss Doris [mailto:dtrimmel-w...@vki.at] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I use winPE and imageX from Microsoft with a standardized image. My PCs are up and running in 20 minutes. Mark Minasi has a good description in his newsletters http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws0701.htm kind regards Doris Trimmel-Wyss Stabstelle EDV Verein für Konsumenteninformation ZVR: 389759993 A-1060 Wien, Linke Wienzeile 18 Tel: (+43 1) 58877-249 / Fax: (+43 1) 58877-74 dtrimmel-w...@vki.at Alle Testergebnisse und viele interessante Berichte zu Verbraucherthemen finden Sie auf unseren Websites: www.konsument.at www.europakonsument.at www.verbraucherrecht.at -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Recommendations for Simple Imaging I have a need for some pretty simple imaging functionality, and am looking for advice. I admit to being totally in the dark when it comes to system imaging options; when we reimage a machine new, we just do it using imaging DVDs that Dell gives us to restore our custom image. It's low-tech, but effective. But one of my techs has a project where we need to create an image on a non-Dell laptop and copy it to a number of other identical laptops. I don't need anything fancy... We're not looking to image across the network or anything like that. We just need to configure a machine, create an image of it on a firewire external hard drive, then duplicate that image to another machine. Any recommendations? John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
So MAC addresses are only locally significant. If you've got this machine offsite then there's no way that MAC address is showing up on your end unless the app is carrying it as metadata or something... Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
For the sake of those interested in such things on the list To suggest that: ...we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix ...is shaky at best. -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware I never said they weren't susceptible to malware, just that they are LESS susceptible to malware. Less =/=0 :-) I specifically said That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. Just a clarification as it appears you misread my post. J -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware Well the first internet malware was a UNIX worm... In any case, I'd be careful asserting that for the most part based on UNIX = not susceptible to malware. I've been admin around UNIX-based boxen for years... and all the system vendors put out security patches... many of which can be exploitable... -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware *nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't automatically have admin privileges the way you do in the Windows world. By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to infect the O/S. Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do not give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not familiar with *all* variants, so I'm saying most to cover my butt) you have to be root or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install software. In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced privileges.) That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Typo. :P From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack Can't stand it any longer, the correct spelling is needle. Thank you, I feel better now. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack Got any pointers ? *6076AD007 Shook Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
He was pulling information from some SQL utility. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack So MAC addresses are only locally significant. If you've got this machine offsite then there's no way that MAC address is showing up on your end unless the app is carrying it as metadata or something. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He's begun to fixate on a system I can't positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it's the hosted web server, but I don't have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn't replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure That's the Webhost? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a needle in a haystack
Sooowhy didn't you fix it in the subject line when you vented? :) _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack Can't stand it any longer, the correct spelling is needle. Thank you, I feel better now. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack Got any pointers ? *6076AD007 Shook Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.45/2141 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack
So, I think my comment stands - you'll need to monitor port 1733, IIRC. That's easy enough to do, as someone else pointed out, with 'netstat -anp tcp | findstr 1733', or by installing wireshark on the machine and building a bpf filter for that source port. I like wireshark because you can just log packets to a file for review later, but if you've got the other party on the telephone, and he/she/it can initiate the query while you're talking, then the netstat command is much less intrusive. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:05, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: He was pulling information from some SQL utility. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack So MAC addresses are only locally significant. If you’ve got this machine offsite then there’s no way that MAC address is showing up on your end unless the app is carrying it as metadata or something… Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He’s begun to fixate on a system I can’t positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it’s the hosted web server, but I don’t have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn’t replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure “That’s the Webhost?” ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack
Yeah, I was able to prove that was the source. Thanks for all your help guys. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Finding a neddle in a haystack So, I think my comment stands - you'll need to monitor port 1733, IIRC. That's easy enough to do, as someone else pointed out, with 'netstat -anp tcp | findstr 1733', or by installing wireshark on the machine and building a bpf filter for that source port. I like wireshark because you can just log packets to a file for review later, but if you've got the other party on the telephone, and he/she/it can initiate the query while you're talking, then the netstat command is much less intrusive. Kurt On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:05, Jim Majorowicz jmajorow...@gmail.com wrote: He was pulling information from some SQL utility. From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Finding a neddle in a haystack So MAC addresses are only locally significant. If you’ve got this machine offsite then there’s no way that MAC address is showing up on your end unless the app is carrying it as metadata or something… Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Finding a neddle in a haystack The developer for one of my clients is trying to figure out what is causing his app to crash on a regular basis. He’s begun to fixate on a system I can’t positively identify that connects via SQL on a regular basis. I suspect it’s the hosted web server, but I don’t have to contact information for the hosting company, and the person with that information is currently in China with a spotty connection and hasn’t replied to my emails. I have the name of the host, and the MAC address but not the IP address. Is there any way to find the IP based on the MAC, so I can say for sure “That’s the Webhost?” ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Mac Anti-Malware
UAC fixes this in Windows Vista and newer. And creating new accounts on a standalone PC, IIRC, does not make them Administrators - only the initially created users are automatically admins For malware that spreads automatically, I hear it's just as easily to exploit a buffer overflow in a privileged service on Windows as it is on any other OS. Enabling the Windows firewall by default in XP SP2 has done a lot to cut down on this type of malware. The biggest issue vulnerability is that between keyboard and chair. If we put all those people who use Windows on *nix, I'm pretty sure we'd have a huge malware problem on *nix as well. Cheers Ken From: John Aldrich [jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Friday, 5 June 2009 3:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware *nix (Unix, Linux, *BSD) is much more difficult to infect, as you don't automatically have admin privileges the way you do in the Windows world. By default when you create a new account on a stand-alone PC, that account has Admin privileges which most viruses and other malware can exploit to infect the O/S. Unix-based operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Mac OS/X, etc) do not give normal users the right to run code with elevated privileges, which is what would be needed to infect the O/S. Let's say you wanted to install a piece of software. Under most unix-based operating systems (I'm not familiar with *all* variants, so I'm saying most to cover my butt) you have to be root or equivalent to install software. The O/S won't LET you install software. In Windows most users have the ability to install software (unless they are specifically denied that by virtue of having been given special reduced privileges.) That's not to say that it's not possible to infect a Unix-based O/S, just that it's a LOT harder to do than a Windows O/S. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) Please to be explaining. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Mac Anti-Malware That's a good question. The most common answer you're going to find is we don't need antivirus/anti-malware. For the most part that is true, as OS X is based on Unix (BSD to be exact, I think.) That being said, there has been some recently publicized (in this list even, I think J) activity that warrants looking for anti-malware on the Mac. My suggestion would be to check the usual suspects: McAfee, AVG, Symantec (YUCK!), etc. I just did a little bit of looking (not much, mind) and the ONLY thing I found was Avast! has a Mac version. Trend Micro (maker of PC-Cillin and host of the free on-line virus scanner antivirus.com) makes a Mac version of their stuff, so it's available. You just have to look a lot harder to find it than with Windows anti-malware. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Mac Anti-Malware What is a good Mac OS X(?) Anti-Malware software? I have zero experience with Mac's and was just instructed to begin looking for some software for one. Anyone got a good recommendation they will offer up? Thanks and I am off to see what is out there. Jon Harris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
My OS is better than your OS (was: Mac Anti-Malware)
[subject line changed to reflect the nature of this thread] On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote: UAC fixes this in Windows Vista and newer. Windows NT 3.1 (the first release) fixed it with user accounts. There wasn't anyone holding a gun to anyone's head saying, Make all users admins or else. Now, there's definitely a very significant momentum in the 'doze world, where many people just assume everyone has admin rights. Even Microsoft still has this problem to significant extent. For example, their latest and greatest software development suite has a long list of things that don't work right if you don't have admin rights. This reduces overall practical security. There are also legions of home computers that came pre-configured to auto-login to an admin account. If they were all running Linux or Mac OS X or BSD that way, they'd all have the same problems. Mac OS X has a few things going for it: * Smaller installed base means it's a less attractive target. * Since Apple started from scratch with it relatively recently, they were able to build in a much better overall default security stance. Application developers and users are all used to the idea of security on that OS. In conclusion, Linux rulez, Windows suxors! See also: Every OS Sucks, by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: My OS is better than your OS (was: Mac Anti-Malware)
Inline... -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: My OS is better than your OS (was: Mac Anti-Malware) [subject line changed to reflect the nature of this thread] On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote: UAC fixes this in Windows Vista and newer. Windows NT 3.1 (the first release) fixed it with user accounts. There wasn't anyone holding a gun to anyone's head saying, Make all users admins or else. [sc] Indeed there wasn't. However, without backward compatibility with the Win16 world, adoption of that new-fangled OS would have not necessarily have been a given. This remained true thru 2000, and possibly up to XP, as until Win95/98/Millennium was vanquished, Wn32 code on those platforms didn't have to deal with this. [sc]Admittedly that doesn't make it right, but the world/'net was a different place then, and market realities (aka user desires) do tend to rule. Now, there's definitely a very significant momentum in the 'doze world, where many people just assume everyone has admin rights. Even Microsoft still has this problem to significant extent. For example, their latest and greatest software development suite has a long list of things that don't work right if you don't have admin rights. This reduces overall practical security. [sc] I rather expect that DEV environments might be a bit odd in this regard (after all, you probably need SeDebug and other such perversions). I can say that from a biz software perspective, stuff from MS has been MUCH better in the last several years. It is taking some vendors a while to catch up tho. There are also legions of home computers that came pre-configured to auto-login to an admin account. If they were all running Linux or Mac OS X or BSD that way, they'd all have the same problems. [sc] Indeed. Mac OS X has a few things going for it: * Smaller installed base means it's a less attractive target. * Since Apple started from scratch with it relatively recently, they were able to build in a much better overall default security stance. Application developers and users are all used to the idea of security on that OS. [sc] The small base thing has seemed to work in Apple's favor. My concern form the earlier response was the assumption that end-user pwnage was the only significant attack vector... certainly untrue, although Apple's rather small based of servers probably makes that target somewhat less attractive as well. In conclusion, Linux rulez, Windows suxors! [sc] Well, if I _HAVE_ to, I'll take OpenBSD, thanks. ;-) See also: Every OS Sucks, by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: My OS is better than your OS (was: Mac Anti-Malware)
Hi, I think you're missing the points that: a) users were made admins by default, and so drive-by malware (e.g. autorun stuff, or via a browser vulnerability) could pretty easily compromise the machine. Other OSes avoided this by prompting users. UAC brings this to Windows b) (a) notwithstanding, the biggest problem at the moment is PEBKAC, and that's a platform agnostic problem. Cheers Ken From: Ben Scott [mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 5 June 2009 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: My OS is better than your OS (was: Mac Anti-Malware) [subject line changed to reflect the nature of this thread] On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote: UAC fixes this in Windows Vista and newer. Windows NT 3.1 (the first release) fixed it with user accounts. There wasn't anyone holding a gun to anyone's head saying, Make all users admins or else. Now, there's definitely a very significant momentum in the 'doze world, where many people just assume everyone has admin rights. Even Microsoft still has this problem to significant extent. For example, their latest and greatest software development suite has a long list of things that don't work right if you don't have admin rights. This reduces overall practical security. There are also legions of home computers that came pre-configured to auto-login to an admin account. If they were all running Linux or Mac OS X or BSD that way, they'd all have the same problems. Mac OS X has a few things going for it: * Smaller installed base means it's a less attractive target. * Since Apple started from scratch with it relatively recently, they were able to build in a much better overall default security stance. Application developers and users are all used to the idea of security on that OS. In conclusion, Linux rulez, Windows suxors! See also: Every OS Sucks, by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: My OS is better than your OS
I'm not convinced it's one that can be fixed. There will always be gullible users vulnerable to social engineering, no matter how much the non-gullible types try to educate them. Ken Schaefer wrote: b) (a) notwithstanding, the biggest problem at the moment is PEBKAC, and that's a platform agnostic problem. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
