Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Steven Peck]

Good to know.  If I am ever in a situation where I am supporting
hundreds of friends and family rel... no no... never mind...

Steven

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Peter van Houten wrote:
> Disable NETBIOS on the Hamachi adaptor. Never had any problems with
> hundreds of remotes using Hamachi as the VPN and UltraVNC/Remote Desktop.
>
> --
> Peter van Houten
>
> On the 15/08/2009 00:32, Steven Peck wrote the following:
>>
>> I found Hamachi when I used to use it had issues over time.  Because
>> it adds a virtual NIC interface on each system it just resulted in
>> weird things.   I used the earlier versions for LAN gaming over the
>> Internet and being able to remote to friends and families systems.
>> But it wasn't worth the hassle of remembering all the passcodes in the
>> end.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 14 Aug 2009 at 15:07, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov  wrote:
>>>
 I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
 to
 use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
 connect
 to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
 watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
 calls me to connect in and fix it ...)
>>>
>>> For home use, I would look into UltraVNC SingleClick, which is totally
>>> free.
>>> It's what I use to support my home-user clients.  You just need to tweak
>>> *_your_* firewall to forward one port -- no config changes at the remote
>>> end.
>>> Works like a champ as long as their AV doesn't block VNC (some AV
>>> packages have
>>> to be told that VNC is OK).
>>>
>>>    Single Click - UltraVNC
>>>    http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html
>>>
 LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
 that?)
 Something else?
>>>
>>> Disadvantage of LogMeIn Free and GoToAssist Free is the total lack of
>>> file
>>> transfer capabilities, which may or may not affect you.  You have to
>>> figure
>>> some other way of getting files to the troubled system (not a big deal,
>>> use
>>> YouSendIt.com and the like).  Also, you log in to the remote system from
>>> a page
>>> on the LogMeIn or GoToAssist servers, so they could sniff the remote
>>> desktop's
>>> login and password info.
>>>
>>> LogMeIn Hamachi might be something worth looking into, free only for home
>>> use:
>>>
>>>    LogMeIn Hamachi - Licensing
>>>    https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/licensing.asp
>>>    "If you are using Hamachi for your own, non-commercial use, it's 100%
>>>    free."
>>>
>>> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
>>> LogMeIn - How Hamachi Works
>>>
>>>    Hamachi is a UDP-based virtual private networking system. Its peers
>>> are
>>>    helped by a third node called a mediation server to locate each other
>>> and
>>>    to bootstrap the connection between them. The connection itself is
>>> direct
>>>    and, once established, no traffic flows through our servers.
>>>
>>>    Hamachi is not just truly peer-to-peer; it is verifiably secure
>>> peer-to-
>>>    peer.
>>>
>>>    Hamachi is able to successfully mediate p2p connections in roughly 95%
>>> of
>>>    all cases. This includes peers residing behind various firewalls or
>>>    broadband routers (aka NAT devices).
>>>
>>> - Included Stuff Ends -
>>> More here with links:
>>>  https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/howitworks.asp
>>>
>>> Once you have a Hamachi link up and running, you use some flavour of VNC
>>> to do
>>> remote control.
>>>
>>> I used to use Hamachi before they got bought by LogMeIn and changed their
>>> licensing from "free for everyone" to "free for non-commercial use".
>>>
>>> Be warned there appears to be something flaky with their security
>>> certificate
>>> right now:
>>>
>>> --- Included Stuff Follows ---

 wget https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_
>>>
>>> Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
>>> --14:51:01--
>>> https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_Getting_Starte
>>> d_Guide.pdf
>>>           =>  `Hamachi_Getting_Started_Guide.pdf'
>>> Resolving secure.logmein.com... 74.201.74.193
>>> Connecting to secure.logmein.com|74.201.74.193|:443... connected.
>>> ERROR: Certificate verification error for secure.logmein.com: unable to
>>> get
>>> local issuer certificate
>>> To connect to secure.logmein.com insecurely, use
>>> `--no-check-certificate'.
>>> Unable to establish SSL connection.
>>>
>>> - Included Stuff Ends -
>>>
>>> Last but not least, here's something for the truly geeky:
>>>
>>>    Remote Desktop and SSH for the home user
>>>    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Ssh/RemoteDesktopSSH.html
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Angus Scott-Fleming
>>> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
>>> 1-520-290-5038
>>> +---+
>
> e
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ 

Re: Why flash is evil

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 14 Aug 2009 at 12:48, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> ... If you want to see something really scary, read about the Flash
> "fscommand" operator - basically it's the equivalent of system(3) in UNIX
> circa 1985. Running Flash in your browser is the equivalent of giving a
> command prompt to everyone who owns every website you visit. 

Yep, which is why I pretty much only 'surf' from machines where I'm a limited 
user, and why I usually download any flash content and view it offline using a 
standalone non-Adobe player like VLC or the "FLV Player" from 
martijndevisser.com -- AFAIK these players don't support ActionScript.

For the partially paranoid, SandboxIE is a possibility; for the truly paranoid 
among us, use a Linux-based VM Browser Appliance. 

http://www.google.com/search?q=browser+appliance

Build a Lightweight Browser Appliance
http://howto.gumph.org/content/build-a-lightweight-browser-appliance/

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Peter van Houten]

Disable NETBIOS on the Hamachi adaptor. Never had any problems with
hundreds of remotes using Hamachi as the VPN and UltraVNC/Remote Desktop.

--
Peter van Houten

On the 15/08/2009 00:32, Steven Peck wrote the following:

I found Hamachi when I used to use it had issues over time.  Because
it adds a virtual NIC interface on each system it just resulted in
weird things.   I used the earlier versions for LAN gaming over the
Internet and being able to remote to friends and families systems.
But it wasn't worth the hassle of remembering all the passcodes in the
end.

Steven

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming  
wrote:

On 14 Aug 2009 at 15:07, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov  wrote:


I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
calls me to connect in and fix it ...)


For home use, I would look into UltraVNC SingleClick, which is totally free.
It's what I use to support my home-user clients.  You just need to tweak
*_your_* firewall to forward one port -- no config changes at the remote end.
Works like a champ as long as their AV doesn't block VNC (some AV packages have
to be told that VNC is OK).

Single Click - UltraVNC
http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html


LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?)
Something else?


Disadvantage of LogMeIn Free and GoToAssist Free is the total lack of file
transfer capabilities, which may or may not affect you.  You have to figure
some other way of getting files to the troubled system (not a big deal, use
YouSendIt.com and the like).  Also, you log in to the remote system from a page
on the LogMeIn or GoToAssist servers, so they could sniff the remote desktop's
login and password info.

LogMeIn Hamachi might be something worth looking into, free only for home use:

LogMeIn Hamachi - Licensing
https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/licensing.asp
"If you are using Hamachi for your own, non-commercial use, it's 100%
free."

--- Included Stuff Follows ---
LogMeIn - How Hamachi Works

Hamachi is a UDP-based virtual private networking system. Its peers are
helped by a third node called a mediation server to locate each other and
to bootstrap the connection between them. The connection itself is direct
and, once established, no traffic flows through our servers.

Hamachi is not just truly peer-to-peer; it is verifiably secure peer-to-
peer.

Hamachi is able to successfully mediate p2p connections in roughly 95% of
all cases. This includes peers residing behind various firewalls or
broadband routers (aka NAT devices).

- Included Stuff Ends -
More here with links:
  https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/howitworks.asp

Once you have a Hamachi link up and running, you use some flavour of VNC to do
remote control.

I used to use Hamachi before they got bought by LogMeIn and changed their
licensing from "free for everyone" to "free for non-commercial use".

Be warned there appears to be something flaky with their security certificate
right now:

--- Included Stuff Follows ---

wget https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_

Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
--14:51:01--
https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_Getting_Starte
d_Guide.pdf
   =>  `Hamachi_Getting_Started_Guide.pdf'
Resolving secure.logmein.com... 74.201.74.193
Connecting to secure.logmein.com|74.201.74.193|:443... connected.
ERROR: Certificate verification error for secure.logmein.com: unable to get
local issuer certificate
To connect to secure.logmein.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.

- Included Stuff Ends -

Last but not least, here's something for the truly geeky:

Remote Desktop and SSH for the home user
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Ssh/RemoteDesktopSSH.html


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+

e

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Steven Peck]

I found Hamachi when I used to use it had issues over time.  Because
it adds a virtual NIC interface on each system it just resulted in
weird things.   I used the earlier versions for LAN gaming over the
Internet and being able to remote to friends and families systems.
But it wasn't worth the hassle of remembering all the passcodes in the
end.

Steven

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2009 at 15:07, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov  wrote:
>
>> I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to
>> use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect
>> to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
>> watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
>> calls me to connect in and fix it ...)
>
> For home use, I would look into UltraVNC SingleClick, which is totally free.
> It's what I use to support my home-user clients.  You just need to tweak
> *_your_* firewall to forward one port -- no config changes at the remote end.
> Works like a champ as long as their AV doesn't block VNC (some AV packages 
> have
> to be told that VNC is OK).
>
>    Single Click - UltraVNC
>    http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html
>
>> LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?)
>> Something else?
>
> Disadvantage of LogMeIn Free and GoToAssist Free is the total lack of file
> transfer capabilities, which may or may not affect you.  You have to figure
> some other way of getting files to the troubled system (not a big deal, use
> YouSendIt.com and the like).  Also, you log in to the remote system from a 
> page
> on the LogMeIn or GoToAssist servers, so they could sniff the remote desktop's
> login and password info.
>
> LogMeIn Hamachi might be something worth looking into, free only for home use:
>
>    LogMeIn Hamachi - Licensing
>    https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/licensing.asp
>    "If you are using Hamachi for your own, non-commercial use, it's 100%
>    free."
>
> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
> LogMeIn - How Hamachi Works
>
>    Hamachi is a UDP-based virtual private networking system. Its peers are
>    helped by a third node called a mediation server to locate each other and
>    to bootstrap the connection between them. The connection itself is direct
>    and, once established, no traffic flows through our servers.
>
>    Hamachi is not just truly peer-to-peer; it is verifiably secure peer-to-
>    peer.
>
>    Hamachi is able to successfully mediate p2p connections in roughly 95% of
>    all cases. This includes peers residing behind various firewalls or
>    broadband routers (aka NAT devices).
>
> - Included Stuff Ends -
> More here with links:
>  https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/howitworks.asp
>
> Once you have a Hamachi link up and running, you use some flavour of VNC to do
> remote control.
>
> I used to use Hamachi before they got bought by LogMeIn and changed their
> licensing from "free for everyone" to "free for non-commercial use".
>
> Be warned there appears to be something flaky with their security certificate
> right now:
>
> --- Included Stuff Follows ---
>> wget https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_
> Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
> --14:51:01--
> https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_Getting_Starte
> d_Guide.pdf
>           => `Hamachi_Getting_Started_Guide.pdf'
> Resolving secure.logmein.com... 74.201.74.193
> Connecting to secure.logmein.com|74.201.74.193|:443... connected.
> ERROR: Certificate verification error for secure.logmein.com: unable to get
> local issuer certificate
> To connect to secure.logmein.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
> Unable to establish SSL connection.
>
> - Included Stuff Ends -
>
> Last but not least, here's something for the truly geeky:
>
>    Remote Desktop and SSH for the home user
>    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Ssh/RemoteDesktopSSH.html
>
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> +---+
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Steven Peck]

Yes they do.  It's very slick.  Copied a 368MB file once.
I have been able to fix issues on a lot of friends and family PCs with this.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2009 at 12:36, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
>> http://showmypc.com/
>> Free.
>> Only an executable, no install.
>> Works great.
>>
>> One caveat, any time the UAC prompt shows up, you will be DC'd until
>> they click on it, then you can easily rejoin your session.  You can
>> have them launch it as Admin which gets around that.
>
> Interesting.  Any idea which version of VNC they're using?
>
>    "ShowMyPC application and the service, both utilize VNC for desktop
>    sharing over SSH for secured communication. ShowMyPC software uses its
>    pool of servers in the middle located across the globe to interconnect
>    users"
>
> Do you know if they support file transfers in the free version?
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> +---+
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 14 Aug 2009 at 15:07, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov  wrote:

> I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to 
> use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect 
> to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
> watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she 
> calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

For home use, I would look into UltraVNC SingleClick, which is totally free. 
It's what I use to support my home-user clients.  You just need to tweak 
*_your_* firewall to forward one port -- no config changes at the remote end.  
Works like a champ as long as their AV doesn't block VNC (some AV packages have 
to be told that VNC is OK).

Single Click - UltraVNC
http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html

> LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?)
> Something else?

Disadvantage of LogMeIn Free and GoToAssist Free is the total lack of file 
transfer capabilities, which may or may not affect you.  You have to figure 
some other way of getting files to the troubled system (not a big deal, use 
YouSendIt.com and the like).  Also, you log in to the remote system from a page 
on the LogMeIn or GoToAssist servers, so they could sniff the remote desktop's 
login and password info.

LogMeIn Hamachi might be something worth looking into, free only for home use:

LogMeIn Hamachi - Licensing
https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/licensing.asp
"If you are using Hamachi for your own, non-commercial use, it's 100% 
free."

--- Included Stuff Follows --- 
LogMeIn - How Hamachi Works

Hamachi is a UDP-based virtual private networking system. Its peers are 
helped by a third node called a mediation server to locate each other and 
to bootstrap the connection between them. The connection itself is direct 
and, once established, no traffic flows through our servers.  

Hamachi is not just truly peer-to-peer; it is verifiably secure peer-to-
peer.  

Hamachi is able to successfully mediate p2p connections in roughly 95% of 
all cases. This includes peers residing behind various firewalls or 
broadband routers (aka NAT devices).

- Included Stuff Ends -
More here with links:
  https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/howitworks.asp

Once you have a Hamachi link up and running, you use some flavour of VNC to do 
remote control.

I used to use Hamachi before they got bought by LogMeIn and changed their 
licensing from "free for everyone" to "free for non-commercial use".

Be warned there appears to be something flaky with their security certificate 
right now:

--- Included Stuff Follows --- 
> wget https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_
Getting_Started_Guide.pdf
--14:51:01--  
https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/Hamachi_Getting_Starte
d_Guide.pdf
   => `Hamachi_Getting_Started_Guide.pdf'
Resolving secure.logmein.com... 74.201.74.193
Connecting to secure.logmein.com|74.201.74.193|:443... connected.
ERROR: Certificate verification error for secure.logmein.com: unable to get 
local issuer certificate
To connect to secure.logmein.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
Unable to establish SSL connection.

- Included Stuff Ends -

Last but not least, here's something for the truly geeky:

Remote Desktop and SSH for the home user
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Ssh/RemoteDesktopSSH.html


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 14 Aug 2009 at 12:36, Steven Peck  wrote:

> http://showmypc.com/
> Free.
> Only an executable, no install.
> Works great.
> 
> One caveat, any time the UAC prompt shows up, you will be DC'd until
> they click on it, then you can easily rejoin your session.  You can
> have them launch it as Admin which gets around that.

Interesting.  Any idea which version of VNC they're using?

"ShowMyPC application and the service, both utilize VNC for desktop 
sharing over SSH for secured communication. ShowMyPC software uses its 
pool of servers in the middle located across the globe to interconnect 
users"

Do you know if they support file transfers in the free version?

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Stephan Barr]

GoToAssist Express

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM,  wrote:

> I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to
> use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect
> to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
> watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
> calls me to connect in and fix it ...)
>
> Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could
> just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch (a
> pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works wonderfully,
> it's just too slow to do a lot useful.
>
> So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know
> what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
> being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)
>
> LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?)
> Something else?
>
> Cable connection speeds, at both ends.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

[Kurt Buff]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:25, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> LOL, hilarious, gotta love this guys sense of humor.
>
> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke

I'm wondering if I should do this for work one Friday during the lunch
hour, or perhaps on April 1st...

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Sorry about that!  It probably arrived as afollw-up reply before this
message...

--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Webb, Brian (Corp)
wrote:

>  Hey ME, where do you see this?
>
> -Brian
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2009 3:32 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense
>
>   "Everyone thinks Microsoft stinks at security,” he said. “They need to
>> get some credit for some of the good stuff they've done. Microsoft has been
>> a big target for attacks for a long time, and that's actually a benefit to
>> them. They've learned how they can turn that around and protect themselves
>> better."
>
>
> ...
>
>
>> In catching and stopping socially engineered malware, a significant
>> drop-off occurred after the Microsoft browser. 
>> Firefox3 was next in line, 
>> blocking 27 percent. Apple's
>> Safari  4 thwarted 21
>> percent, followed by Google Chrome
>> (seven percent) and 
>> Opera10 (one percent).
>>
>> The browsers, as a group, performed relatively better in offering phishing
>> protection. Firefox deterred 80 percent of suspected fraud sites, Opera
>> caught 54 percent, followed by Chrome (26 percent) and Safari (two percent).
>>
>> "It's pretty shocking how bad some of the vendors are doing," Moy said.
>> "Everyone should challenge their assumptions and look at some real data when
>> they're making decisions [on which browser to use].”
>
>
> It doesnt change my mind about why I use Firefox, but this is some great
> news for Microsoft and IE. Its good too see these security initiatives
> coming to fruition.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

And now for the article link!  Whoops:

http://www.scmagazineus.com/Microsoft-leads-browsers-in-malware-phishing-defense/article/146505/

--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   "Everyone thinks Microsoft stinks at security,” he said. “They need to
>> get some credit for some of the good stuff they've done. Microsoft has been
>> a big target for attacks for a long time, and that's actually a benefit to
>> them. They've learned how they can turn that around and protect themselves
>> better."
>
>
> ...
>
>
>> In catching and stopping socially engineered malware, a significant
>> drop-off occurred after the Microsoft browser. 
>> Firefox3 was next in line, 
>> blocking 27 percent. Apple's
>> Safari  4 thwarted 21
>> percent, followed by Google Chrome
>> (seven percent) and 
>> Opera10 (one percent).
>>
>> The browsers, as a group, performed relatively better in offering phishing
>> protection. Firefox deterred 80 percent of suspected fraud sites, Opera
>> caught 54 percent, followed by Chrome (26 percent) and Safari (two percent).
>>
>> "It's pretty shocking how bad some of the vendors are doing," Moy said.
>> "Everyone should challenge their assumptions and look at some real data when
>> they're making decisions [on which browser to use].”
>
>
> It doesnt change my mind about why I use Firefox, but this is some great
> news for Microsoft and IE. Its good too see these security initiatives
> coming to fruition.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Why flash is evil

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Bzzzt!

http://get.adobe.com/reader/?promoid=BUIGO:


> Adobe Reader 9.1
> (includes Acrobat.com on Adobe AIR)
>

--
ME2



On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Phil Brutsche  wrote:

>
> The MSI installs just as easily as the self-extracting execuable and,
> without any transforms, gives you the exact same installation as the
> download from http://get.adobe.com/reader/?promoid=BUIGO gives you,
> minus Adobe AIR.
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Why flash is evil

[Jonathan Link]

Which entirely misses Jon's point, see "SOHO or Homeowner."

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Phil Brutsche  wrote:

> ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/9.x/9.1/enu/AdbeRdr910_en_US.msi
>
> The MSI installs just as easily as the self-extracting execuable and,
> without any transforms, gives you the exact same installation as the
> download from http://get.adobe.com/reader/?promoid=BUIGO gives you,
> minus Adobe AIR.
>
> Jon Harris wrote:
> > A lot of Adobe is getting evil try getting the latest Reader WITHOUT
> > having Air rammed down the users throat.  I am referring to the SOHO or
> > Homeowner not enterprise.
>
>
> --
>
> Phil Brutsche
> p...@optimumdata.com
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense

[Webb, Brian (Corp)]

Hey ME, where do you see this?
 
-Brian

 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense



"Everyone thinks Microsoft stinks at security," he said. "They
need to get some credit for some of the good stuff they've done.
Microsoft has been a big target for attacks for a long time, and that's
actually a benefit to them. They've learned how they can turn that
around and protect themselves better."

 
...
 

In catching and stopping socially engineered malware, a
significant drop-off occurred after the Microsoft browser. Firefox
  3 was next in line,
blocking 27 percent. Apple's Safari
  4 thwarted 21 percent,
followed by Google Chrome 
(seven percent) and Opera 
10 (one percent).

The browsers, as a group, performed relatively better in
offering phishing protection. Firefox deterred 80 percent of suspected
fraud sites, Opera caught 54 percent, followed by Chrome (26 percent)
and Safari (two percent).

"It's pretty shocking how bad some of the vendors are doing,"
Moy said. "Everyone should challenge their assumptions and look at some
real data when they're making decisions [on which browser to use]."


It doesnt change my mind about why I use Firefox, but this is some great
news for Microsoft and IE. Its good too see these security initiatives
coming to fruition.

--
ME2


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: OT: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Soo awesome!
--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> LOL, hilarious, gotta love this guys sense of humor.
>
> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Yay! Microsoft leads browsers in malware, phishing defense

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

>
> "Everyone thinks Microsoft stinks at security,” he said. “They need to get
> some credit for some of the good stuff they've done. Microsoft has been a
> big target for attacks for a long time, and that's actually a benefit to
> them. They've learned how they can turn that around and protect themselves
> better."


...


> In catching and stopping socially engineered malware, a significant
> drop-off occurred after the Microsoft browser. 
> Firefox3 was next in line, 
> blocking 27 percent. Apple's
> Safari  4 thwarted 21 percent,
> followed by Google Chrome (seven
> percent) and Opera  10 (one
> percent).
>
> The browsers, as a group, performed relatively better in offering phishing
> protection. Firefox deterred 80 percent of suspected fraud sites, Opera
> caught 54 percent, followed by Chrome (26 percent) and Safari (two percent).
>
> "It's pretty shocking how bad some of the vendors are doing," Moy said.
> "Everyone should challenge their assumptions and look at some real data when
> they're making decisions [on which browser to use].”


It doesnt change my mind about why I use Firefox, but this is some great
news for Microsoft and IE. Its good too see these security initiatives
coming to fruition.

--
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[tony patton]

+100 for TeamViewer, love it, nothing to install for the end user, just 
point them to the teamviewer website and away they go.

-1 for CrossLoop, at least here, performance wasn't great and always 
getting disconnected, could be down to crappy irish dsl speeds

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



Lee Douglas  
14/08/2009 20:23
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Teamviewer works fine for home use. It's a bit sluggish compared to 
LogMeIn. Not quite as good a rendering of the desktop either, but not that 
noticeable. The nice thing about TeamViewer is that the person being 
helped has the comfort of knowing that you can't (under normal 
circumstances) get to their computer until they invite you. I've only ever 
tried either one over DSL or Cable. 

HTH!




On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Richard Stovall <
richard.stov...@researchdata.com> wrote:
Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
use.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she

calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could

just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully,
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know

what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?)
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
--
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Chris Orovet]

I'll occasionally do a beta with my son(currently AION, 
http://na.aiononline.com/en/?src=hdr ) And leave vipre running while
playing with no issues. We also use the enterprise version here in work
and I have yet to have one machine infected or have any issues with any
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From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mini Notebooks

 

Taking this completely off topic but Vipre rocks!!  I've not gotten
Vipre Enterprise installed here yet, but..I recently had to have my
laptop rebuilt, I elected not to have McAfee installed on it instead,
installed I the home version of Vipre.  Right after I installed it,
which ended up being about 11:58AM, I started a deep scan.  Now, during
my lunch hour I typically play a FPS game (RTCW-ET) with a few other
co-workers and some bots.  With McAfee ePO I had to exclude the files
that are accessed during game play on the local pc's, and exclude the
pc's for the ones playing from any type of scanning because of the
performance issues that it would cause.  I ran the deep scan with Vipre
WHILE playing ET, and didn't notice a single performance issue during
the game.  Way kewl.  So in gamer-speak w00t and Vipre pwns McAfee.

Regards, Tribble (my gamer name)

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Stu Sjouwerman <
s...@sunbelt-software.com> wrote:

The only comment I have is that old-style antivirus kills them dead.

 

VIPRE runs fine on them:

 

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/

 

Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  

 

 



From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA

 

 



Carol Fee

Network Administrator

617-338-0623

c...@massbar.org

 

   

   Massachusetts Bar Association

   20 West Street

   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

 

 

 

 

.

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Azle, TX, United States 

 

 

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~   ~<><>

Re: Why flash is evil

[Phil Brutsche]

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/9.x/9.1/enu/AdbeRdr910_en_US.msi

The MSI installs just as easily as the self-extracting execuable and,
without any transforms, gives you the exact same installation as the
download from http://get.adobe.com/reader/?promoid=BUIGO gives you,
minus Adobe AIR.

Jon Harris wrote:
> A lot of Adobe is getting evil try getting the latest Reader WITHOUT
> having Air rammed down the users throat.  I am referring to the SOHO or
> Homeowner not enterprise.


-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Why flash is evil

[Jon Harris]

A lot of Adobe is getting evil try getting the latest Reader WITHOUT having
Air rammed down the users throat.  I am referring to the SOHO or Homeowner
not enterprise.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Below is a snippet from the SANS Newsbites. See Ranum's editorial
> comment - it'll make you shiver.
>
> For instance, the 'exec' option here:
>
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/action_scripts/actionscript_dictionary/actionscript_dictionary372.html
>
> Kurt
>
>
>  --Quantcast Casts Out Flash Cookies in Wake of Report
> (August 12, 2009)
> In the wake of research published about Flash cookies, online tracking
> company Quantcast has stopped its practice of recreating customers'
> cookies with Flash after users deleted the regular cookies.  The
> researchers showed that some websites were circumventing customers'
> wishes not to be tracked by creating the flash cookies, which are not
> affected by browser privacy settings.  Quantcast made the change to its
> practices on Tuesday afternoon after the research was published.
> According to the report, more than half of 100 sites scrutinized for the
> research used Flash cookies.  Adobe has provided instructions for
> managing Flash cookies on its website.
>
> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/08/flash-cookie-researchers-spark-quantcast-change/
> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/546/4c68e546.html
> [Editor's Note (Ranum): The active content ("run whatever some guy over
> there tells you!") model has always been a threat; there is simply no
> way around it. I'm only surprised that it has taken so long for Flash
> to have a spotlight shined on it. If you want to see something really
> scary, read about the Flash "fscommand" operator - basically it's the
> equivalent of system(3) in UNIX circa 1985. Running Flash in your
> browser is the equivalent of giving a command prompt to everyone who
> owns every website you visit.
> (Pescatore): Palm was just outed for the Palm Pre secretly sending
> location information back to Palm. Hiding behind opt-out language buried
> in eensy beensy type in voluminous end user licensing agreements is a
> great way to anger your customers.]
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Why flash is evil

[Kurt Buff]

Below is a snippet from the SANS Newsbites. See Ranum's editorial
comment - it'll make you shiver.

For instance, the 'exec' option here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/action_scripts/actionscript_dictionary/actionscript_dictionary372.html

Kurt


 --Quantcast Casts Out Flash Cookies in Wake of Report
(August 12, 2009)
In the wake of research published about Flash cookies, online tracking
company Quantcast has stopped its practice of recreating customers'
cookies with Flash after users deleted the regular cookies.  The
researchers showed that some websites were circumventing customers'
wishes not to be tracked by creating the flash cookies, which are not
affected by browser privacy settings.  Quantcast made the change to its
practices on Tuesday afternoon after the research was published.
According to the report, more than half of 100 sites scrutinized for the
research used Flash cookies.  Adobe has provided instructions for
managing Flash cookies on its website.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/08/flash-cookie-researchers-spark-quantcast-change/
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/546/4c68e546.html
[Editor's Note (Ranum): The active content ("run whatever some guy over
there tells you!") model has always been a threat; there is simply no
way around it. I'm only surprised that it has taken so long for Flash
to have a spotlight shined on it. If you want to see something really
scary, read about the Flash "fscommand" operator - basically it's the
equivalent of system(3) in UNIX circa 1985. Running Flash in your
browser is the equivalent of giving a command prompt to everyone who
owns every website you visit.
(Pescatore): Palm was just outed for the Palm Pre secretly sending
location information back to Palm. Hiding behind opt-out language buried
in eensy beensy type in voluminous end user licensing agreements is a
great way to anger your customers.]

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~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Michael . Leone]

Steven Peck  wrote on 08/14/2009 03:36:55 PM:

> http://showmypc.com/
> Free.
> Only an executable, no install.
> Works great.
> 
> One caveat, any time the UAC prompt shows up, you will be DC'd until
> they click on it, then you can easily rejoin your session.  You can
> have them launch it as Admin which gets around that.

This is a WinXP machine, so no UAC. And she always logs in with 
administrator priveleges.
(yes, I know; no, that won't change) :-)

Hadn't heard of this one; I'll check it out.


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Ben Schorr]

Very happy with my ASUS 1000HE Netbook (with 2GB of RAM).  I only use it
for a travel/off-site/living room machine.  Most of my real work gets
done on a desktop with dual 19" monitors (will go larger when these
die).

 

Best wishes and aloha, 

 

Ben M. Schorr

Chief Executive Officer

__

Roland Schorr & Tower

www.rolandschorr.com

Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007: 
http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

And yet it will still fit in your purse...it's magic!

TVK

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

>From the site:

"Equus NOBi - Convertible 8.9' Tablet"

 

Man, that thing is HUGE!

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

Sorry, meant to include a link to the NOBi since it is a lesser known, 
http://www.microsoft.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?ItmNo=8151975

TVK

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

For personal use I highly recommend the Equus NOBi convertible. They
only sell for personal, educational and non-profit use, so there is that
limitation, but considering the touch screen capabilities the price is
awesome. I have one and it is a great little machine, much more useful
since you don't have to use keyboard all that much. They also load Blue
Dolphin on top of XP to make using the touch screen a breeze (then again
I HATE XP, it's just such a yuck interface to go back to after using
Vista and Windows 7 for over 2 years now).

TVK

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

 

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA

 

 



Carol Fee

Network Administrator

617-338-0623

c...@massbar.org

 

   

   Massachusetts Bar Association

   20 West Street

   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~   ~<>

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Steven M. Caesare]

It's not so bad as long as you relax.

-sc

> On 8/14/09, Tim Vander Kooi  wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure it was Don who told me that -sc finagles his F11
> while doing
> > other things too. Ew!
> > TVK
> >
> > From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:47 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> >
> > Please refrain from sharing those martial detailsnot an image
any
> of us
> > need.
> >
> > Shook
> >
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> >
> > My wife's ASUS is 1024x600
> >
> > With a little windows them finagling and application configuration
it
> ain't
> > bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> >
> > I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is
> reasonable and
> > performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two
> monitors
> > with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.  You
> can feel
> > really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited to
> travel.  I
> > suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I remember right
> the
> > monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a dongle if you want
> to use
> > an external monitor.
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> >
> >
> > I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...
> >
> > 1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.
> >
> > 2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably
> a USB
> > RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)
> >
> > 3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.
> >
> > 4. The keyboard is full-size.
> >
> > 5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
> > --
> > Richard D. McClary
> > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> >
> > ASPCA(r)
> > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > Urbana, IL  61802
> >
> > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> >
> > P: 217-337-9761
> > C: 217-417-1182
> > F: 217-337-9761
> > www.aspca.org
> >
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> > "Tom Miller" mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>> wrote
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> > 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:
> >
> >> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the
> >> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air
> >> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I
> >> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's
> cheap.
> >>
> >> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"
> >> >>> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 8/14/2009
> 11:04 AM
> >> >>> >>>
> >> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they?
> >>
> >> -sc
> >>
> >> From: Tom Miller
> >> [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> >>
> >> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think
its
> >> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
> >>
> >> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"
> >> >>> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 8/14/2009
> 10:11 AM
> >> >>> >>>
> >> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
> >>
> >> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse
> >> for a trip.
> >>
> >> -sc
> >>
> >> From: Carol Fee
> >> [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Mini Notebooks
> >>
> >> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of
these
> >> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required )
> use ?
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Carol Fee
> >> Network Administrator
> >> 617-338-0623
> >> c...@massbar.org
> >>
> >>
> >>Massachusetts Bar Association
> >>20 West Street
> >>Boston, MA 02111-1204
> >>(617) 338-0500
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Steven Peck]

http://showmypc.com/
Free.
Only an executable, no install.
Works great.

One caveat, any time the UAC prompt shows up, you will be DC'd until
they click on it, then you can easily rejoin your session.  You can
have them launch it as Admin which gets around that.

Steven

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Jon B. Lewis wrote:
> Ditto on gotoassist.  If you've got a few small business clients it's
> fantastic.  For free use I've used logmein and it's decent.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home
> support?
>
> Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
> it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
> mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
> free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
> use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?
>
> I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
> to
> use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
> connect
> to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
> watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
>
> calls me to connect in and fix it ...)
>
> Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could
>
> just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
> (a
> pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
> wonderfully,
> it's just too slow to do a lot useful.
>
> So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know
>
> what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
> being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)
>
> LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
> that?)
> Something else?
>
> Cable connection speeds, at both ends.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Don Ely]

That was probably Shookie and his pillow talk after he finished with you...

On 8/14/09, Tim Vander Kooi  wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it was Don who told me that -sc finagles his F11 while doing
> other things too. Ew!
> TVK
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:47 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
> Please refrain from sharing those martial detailsnot an image any of us
> need.
>
> Shook
>
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
> My wife's ASUS is 1024x600
>
> With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it ain't
> bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE
>
> -sc
>
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
> I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable and
> performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two monitors
> with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.  You can feel
> really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited to travel.  I
> suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I remember right the
> monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a dongle if you want to use
> an external monitor.
>
> Curt
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
>
> I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...
>
> 1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.
>
> 2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB
> RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)
>
> 3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.
>
> 4. The keyboard is full-size.
>
> 5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>
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> "Tom Miller" mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>> wrote on
> 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:
>
>> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the
>> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air
>> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I
>> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
>>
>> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"
>> >>> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 8/14/2009 11:04 AM
>> >>> >>>
>> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they?
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> From: Tom Miller
>> [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>>
>> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
>> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
>>
>> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"
>> >>> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 8/14/2009 10:11 AM
>> >>> >>>
>> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>>
>> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse
>> for a trip.
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> From: Carol Fee
>> [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Mini Notebooks
>>
>> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
>> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Carol Fee
>> Network Administrator
>> 617-338-0623
>> c...@massbar.org
>>
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>>20 West Street
>>Boston, MA 02111-1204
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RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[RAY ZORZ]

Teamviewer works for me.

>>> "Richard Stovall"  8/14/2009 12:13 PM >>>
Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
use.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to 
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect 
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she

calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could

just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a 
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully, 
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know

what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?) 
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Richard Stovall]

That's one of the great features of gotoassist express also.  I used it
like a fiend during beta, but when it came out of beta and they started
charging I couldn't justify it.

 

From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home
support?

 

Teamviewer works fine for home use. It's a bit sluggish compared to
LogMeIn. Not quite as good a rendering of the desktop either, but not
that noticeable. The nice thing about TeamViewer is that the person
being helped has the comfort of knowing that you can't (under normal
circumstances) get to their computer until they invite you. I've only
ever tried either one over DSL or Cable. 

HTH!





On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Richard Stovall
 wrote:

Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
use.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she

calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could

just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully,
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know

what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?)
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
--
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Jon B. Lewis]

Ditto on gotoassist.  If you've got a few small business clients it's
fantastic.  For free use I've used logmein and it's decent.  

-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home
support?

Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
use.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to 
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect 
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she

calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could

just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a 
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully, 
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know

what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?) 
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Lee Douglas]

Teamviewer works fine for home use. It's a bit sluggish compared to LogMeIn.
Not quite as good a rendering of the desktop either, but not that
noticeable. The nice thing about TeamViewer is that the person being helped
has the comfort of knowing that you can't (under normal circumstances) get
to their computer until they invite you. I've only ever tried either one
over DSL or Cable.

HTH!




On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Richard Stovall <
richard.stov...@researchdata.com> wrote:

> Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
> it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
> mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
> free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
> use.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?
>
> I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
> to
> use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
> connect
> to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can
> watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she
>
> calls me to connect in and fix it ...)
>
> Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could
>
> just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
> (a
> pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
> wonderfully,
> it's just too slow to do a lot useful.
>
> So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know
>
> what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
> being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)
>
> LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
> that?)
> Something else?
>
> Cable connection speeds, at both ends.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Michael Leone
> Network Administrator, ISM
> Philadelphia Housing Authority
> 2500 Jackson St
> Philadelphia, PA 19145
> Tel:  215-684-4180
> Cell: 215-252-0143
> 
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Erik Goldoff]

Probably not the best, but I've had pretty good luck with CrossLoop  



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 


-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect to
my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can watch,
observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she calls me
to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could
just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch (a
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works wonderfully,
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know
what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?)
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
--
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Chris Orovet]

Goverlan has always been my favorite. And its quite affordable. 
http://www.goverlan.com/

 

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Web: http://www.atsi-inc.com

 

 

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-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

 

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to 

use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect 

to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 

watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she


calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

 

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could


just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a 

pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully, 

it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

 

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know


what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 

being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

 

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?) 

Something else?

 

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

 

Thanks

-- 

Michael Leone

Network Administrator, ISM

Philadelphia Housing Authority

2500 Jackson St

Philadelphia, PA 19145

Tel:  215-684-4180

Cell: 215-252-0143



 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~

~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Kennedy, Jim]

Been using logmein free for about a year with for my mom. No complaints here, 
works fine.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to 
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect 
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she 
calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could 
just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch (a 
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works wonderfully, 
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know 
what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?) 
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Richard Stovall]

Gotoassist express is great.  No permanent client install, etc., but
it's w too expensive for non-paid support.  Folks here have
mentioned teamviewer in the past but I've never used it.  I like logmein
free, but the having to have a client installed is a pain for one-off
use.

-Original Message-
From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program
to 
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to
connect 
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she

calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could

just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch
(a 
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works
wonderfully, 
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know

what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make
that?) 
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Recommendations for remote control program for home support?

[Michael . Leone]

I'm interested in what the list recommends as a remote control program to 
use, to provide support in a home environment (i.e., if I want to connect 
to my friend's PC, and see exactly what's going, and so that she can 
watch, observe,learn .. and then totally forget, until the next time she 
calls me to connect in and fix it ...)

Here at work we like Intel LANDesk, which obviously I can't use. I could 
just RDP into her WinXP machine, but then she wouldn't be able to watch (a 
pre-requisite). I've used UltraVNC before, and while it works wonderfully, 
it's just too slow to do a lot useful.

So what are the recommendations? I can search out a list; I want to know 
what you guys do to help out someone remotely. I don't mind paying, but 
being frugal while still getting quality is something to shoot for. :-)

LogMeIn Free? the old standby, pcAnywhere? (do they even still make that?) 
Something else?

Cable connection speeds, at both ends.

Thanks
-- 
Michael Leone
Network Administrator, ISM
Philadelphia Housing Authority
2500 Jackson St
Philadelphia, PA 19145
Tel:  215-684-4180
Cell: 215-252-0143



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I'm pretty sure it was Don who told me that -sc finagles his F11 while doing 
other things too. Ew!
TVK

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

Please refrain from sharing those martial detailsnot an image any of us 
need.

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

My wife's ASUS is 1024x600

With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it ain't 
bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE

-sc

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable and 
performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two monitors 
with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.  You can feel 
really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited to travel.  I 
suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I remember right the monitor 
port is non-standard so you have to buy a dongle if you want to use an external 
monitor.

Curt

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks


I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB 
RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.

4. The keyboard is full-size.

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
--
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

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"Tom Miller" mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>> wrote on 
08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
>
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 
> >>> 8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>>
> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they?
>
> -sc
>
> From: Tom Miller 
> [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
>
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> 
> >>> 8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse
> for a trip.
>
> -sc
>
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks
>
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA
>
>
>
> Carol Fee
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
>
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Re: Mini Notebooks

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Taking this completely off topic but Vipre rocks!!  I've not gotten Vipre
Enterprise installed here yet, but..I recently had to have my laptop
rebuilt, I elected not to have McAfee installed on it instead, installed I
the home version of Vipre.  Right after I installed it, which ended up being
about 11:58AM, I started a deep scan.  Now, during my lunch hour I typically
play a FPS game (RTCW-ET) with a few other co-workers and some bots.  With
McAfee ePO I had to exclude the files that are accessed during game play on
the local pc's, and exclude the pc's for the ones playing from any type of
scanning because of the performance issues that it would cause.  I ran the
deep scan with Vipre WHILE playing ET, and didn't notice a single
performance issue during the game.  Way kewl.  So in gamer-speak w00t and
Vipre pwns McAfee.

Regards, Tribble (my gamer name)

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Stu Sjouwerman
wrote:

>  The only comment I have is that old-style antivirus kills them dead.
>
> VIPRE runs fine on them:
>
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Stu Sjouwerman
> Founder, VP Marketing.
> P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
> F: +1-727-562-5199
> s...@sunbelt-software.com
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Mini Notebooks
>
>  Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
> TIA
>
>
> *
> --
> * *Carol Fee*
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
>
>
>   *   Massachusetts Bar Association*
>20 West Street
>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>(617) 338-0500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Azle, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

RE: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

[Phillip Partipilo]

Heh I read about that guy doing that some time ago.  It has kinda dawned on
me that we have our home WAP wide open without security, that would be fun
to do. I'm pretty sure there is a neighbor or two mooching.  Really not
concerned enough to setup wireshark or ntop. Of course i dont mind, I like
my neighbors.  I wonder if they would come knocking at the door wondering
why everything is upside down hehee
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

  _  

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet


LOL, hilarious, gotta love this guys sense of humor.

http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
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RE: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

[Steven M. Caesare]

That's beautiful.

 

-sc

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

 

LOL, hilarious, gotta love this guys sense of humor.

http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Stu Sjouwerman]

The only comment I have is that old-style antivirus kills them dead.
 
VIPRE runs fine on them:
 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/
 
Warm regards,

Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  
 



From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks


Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA
 
 


Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org
 

 

  
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   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500
 

 

 




..
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

OT: My Neighbor is Using my Wireless Internet

[Sherry Abercrombie]

LOL, hilarious, gotta love this guys sense of humor.

http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: semi-OT: What happened to alphant?

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Yup, It went bye-bye. 


Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


 
-Original Message-
From: Buchenauer Christian [mailto:cbuchena...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: semi-OT: What happened to alphant?

Stu, is alphant gone?



Thanks
Chris
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~   ~


..

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Re: Social networking sites as a business resource

[Steven Peck]

On the flip side
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=benefits+involved+with+using+social+networking+sites+for+business&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Some simple things.  Your company should establish clear policies on
what they actually are looking to accomplish.  This should be
realistic as you cannot control the information on a social networking
site, merely respond in a positive manner which makes you look better.

You should have someone or a team responsible for this.  They should
have a policy and not over react.

Check out http://consumerist.com/  They have stories of customer who
experienced no end of bad customer service and complained on the
internet and sometimes were bad customers themselves.  If you look,
you will see what kinds of corporate responses generated positive
feedback from the internet masses and what was seen as negative.  You
can use this as a learning tool to set your response policies without
learning the hard way.

The biggest benefit of 'owning' your namespace in social networking
communities is that by keeping it positive, over time you will rank on
search results higher then some new post on a random site by an angry
customer.

Steven Peck

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM, David Lum wrote:
> Thanks ME2, I hate when I overlook searching using the “long string” method,
> usually I am better than that. Those links are awesome, thank you very much!
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Social networking sites as a business resource
>
>
>
> There are lots of things to be found online for best practices and
> recommendations for use.  There are less for reflecting the risks, but they
> are out there and reflected in the top-10  too:
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=risks+involved+with+using+social+networking+sites+for+business
>
> I very much agree with the short-lists of risks offered here:
>
>    http://www.strikingweb.com/blog/Social-Networking-Risks.html
>
> http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/networking-dos-and-donts-using-social-internet-sites-business
>
> Although, what I see as the largest risk is controlling and editing the
> feedback and commentary you openly subject yourself to from competitors out
> to make you look bad, and the jerks of the world.
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> I’ve been tasked to find out the potential pitfalls for a business
> leveraging social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc) as a medium for
> communication and other business uses.  Anyone have a good source for things
> to be aware of, best practices, etc when considering (or doing) such a
> thing?
>
>
>
> TIA,
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

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Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[James Kerr]

At the webhosting company I have the MX record pointing to an A record like its 
supposed to be. What i'm doing now is all internal DNS stuff.

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?


  Just in case: MX records should not point to CNAME records (aliases). MX 
records should point to A records only.  Spam filters may see this and penalize 
and/or block you.

  Many web sites are servers that virtually serve web site content based on the 
connecting host header (FQDN that is being used to resolve to the IP address of 
the server); this is how a single server can host many web sites simultaneously.

  If the web server is not configured for FQDN you are trying to connect to, it 
has no host header information in which to virtually serverthe correct content 
for.  So, if I understand this correctly, you need to contact your web host and 
have them add your new FQDN as an additional host header for your site.

  --
  ME2



  On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, James Kerr  wrote:

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias 
mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want anything 
internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange server and its 
working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a browser I can't 
connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup 
zone (without AD) called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This 
works but what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't 
hosted with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

James



 




 

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~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Steven M. Caesare]

Look.. anything I can do to make the small size more tolerable for the
wife, I'm proud of.

 

-sc

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

Please refrain from sharing those martial detailsnot an image any of
us need. 

 

Shook

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

My wife's ASUS is 1024x600

 

With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it
ain't bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE

 

-sc

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable
and performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two
monitors with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.
You can feel really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited
to travel.  I suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I
remember right the monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a
dongle if you want to use an external monitor.

 

Curt

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 


I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop... 

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo. 

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a
USB RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.) 

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP. 

4. The keyboard is full-size. 

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
-- 
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the 
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air 
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I 
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>> 
> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they? 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>> 
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use. 
>   
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip. 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use
?  TIA 
>   
>   
> 
> Carol Fee 
> Network Administrator 
> 617-338-0623 
> c...@massbar.org 
>   
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>(617) 338-0500 
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Re: Mini Notebooks

[Richard Stovall]

Eye to rely to much on spell Czech.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Andy Shook wrote:
> Please refrain from sharing those martial details….not an image any of us
> need.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
>
>
> My wife’s ASUS is 1024x600
>
>
>
> With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it ain’t
> bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
>
>
> I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable and
> performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two monitors
> with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.  You can feel
> really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited to travel.  I
> suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I remember right the
> monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a dongle if you want to use
> an external monitor.
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
>
>
> I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...
>
> 1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.
>
> 2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB
> RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)
>
> 3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.
>
> 4. The keyboard is full-size.
>
> 5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>
> ASPCA®
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
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> C: 217-417-1182
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> "Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:
>
>> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the
>> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air
>> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I
>> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
>>
>> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>>
>> The HP’s are almost $500 aren’t they?
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>>
>> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
>> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
>>
>> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>
>> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>>
>> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse
>> for a trip.
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Mini Notebooks
>>
>> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
>> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
>>  TIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Carol Fee
>> Network Administrator
>> 617-338-0623
>> c...@massbar.org
>>
>>
>>    Massachusetts Bar Association
>>    20 West Street
>>    Boston, MA 02111-1204
>>    (617) 338-0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Phillip Partipilo]

I've got the HP Mini 1000, not the Verizon version, and no WWAN card in it.
It's real nice.  Very thin, light, solid construction, awesome keyboard,
almost full size.  A few hacks need to be done to make it really cool.  
 
1. There is this piece of aluminized mylar film in front of the webcam that
makes its sensitivity suck.  You can pry the top of the display apart and
yank it out, big improvement.
 
2. The included 16gb SSD kinda sucks in write performance.  It is a 1.8" ZIF
drive, and RunCore makes a 32gb drop-in replacement that absolutely rocks,
especially in 4k random write performance.
 
HP publicly makes available full tear-down guides and repair manuals for it,
very detailed, that is nice.  I cant believe they put so much effort into a
cheap little netbook.
 
Also, supposedly, this is one of the few netbooks that can work in full
capacity with OSX.  That much I am still struggling with, its not easy.
 
Downside is the 3-cell LiPo battery which may give you 3 hours tops.
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

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From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mini Notebooks


I think it's an HP.  http://verizonmininotebook.com/

>>> Jon Harris  8/14/2009 10:17 AM >>>

You sure it is not a Dell? The Verizon commercials are showing Dells but I
think they are selling FIOS not Wireless.
Jon


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:


We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card. I think its a
branded HP. Looks nice but still testing.

>>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>


My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.



Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse for a
trip.



-sc



From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks



Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either
for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ? TIA






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Network Administrator

617-338-0623

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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Andy Shook]

Please refrain from sharing those martial detailsnot an image any of us 
need.

Shook

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

My wife's ASUS is 1024x600

With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it ain't 
bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE

-sc

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable and 
performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two monitors 
with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.  You can feel 
really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited to travel.  I 
suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I remember right the monitor 
port is non-standard so you have to buy a dongle if you want to use an external 
monitor.

Curt

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks


I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB 
RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.

4. The keyboard is full-size.

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
--
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
>
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>>
> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they?
>
> -sc
>
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
>
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
>
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse
> for a trip.
>
> -sc
>
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks
>
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA
>
>
>
> Carol Fee
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
>
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>20 West Street
>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>(617) 338-0500
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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Steven M. Caesare]

My wife's ASUS is 1024x600

 

With a little windows them finagling and application configuration it
ain't bad. Especially if you F11 while browsing with IE

 

-sc

 

From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable
and performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two
monitors with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.
You can feel really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited
to travel.  I suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I
remember right the monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a
dongle if you want to use an external monitor.

 

Curt

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 


I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop... 

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo. 

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a
USB RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.) 

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP. 

4. The keyboard is full-size. 

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
-- 
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
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Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the 
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air 
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I 
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>> 
> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they? 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>> 
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use. 
>   
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip. 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use
?  TIA 
>   
>   
> 
> Carol Fee 
> Network Administrator 
> 617-338-0623 
> c...@massbar.org 
>   
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>Massachusetts Bar Association 
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RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[Richard Stovall]

Glad it's working.  ME2 was right about the RFCs not allowing you to
point MX records to anything other than A records.  That being said, in
this case the only clients hitting your DNS servers are behind your
firewall so it's almost certainly one of those technical violations that
doesn't cause any real trouble.

 

BTW, you've just set up your first split DNS structure.  Very useful,
yet so many people have difficulty wrapping their heads around the
concept.

RS

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

It works, I'm good to go, thanks.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Stovall 


To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:27 AM

Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

No.  That's not valid.  It looks like the site is on a shared
server so the simple www record will suffice since the provider is
likely using host headers to present the correct content.  Just put in
an A record with the ip, or a CNAME to site444.whatever.com and you
should be good to go.  Let us know if it doesn't work.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

Can I setup an alias for www in this format
"site444.website.com/website" ?

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Stovall
  

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:04 AM

Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

You need a record for www pointing to the external
provider.  E.g. an A record with the static IP at your provider.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to
create an alias mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record.
Basically I want anything internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to
go to our Exchange server and its working but when I try to go to
www.domainname.org with a browser I can't connect to the site. This is
what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup zone (without AD)
called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This works but
what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't hosted
with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

 

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Backing up 2 million small files

[paul chinnery]

Does he have the money to do it to disk; perhaps a small NAS?  Our EMR server 
has over 6.5 million, tiny files (a file is generated for each patient visit).  
We're using Sym BE v11 and backing up to a CX500 SAN.  That takes about 12 
hours.
Which reminds me of the time when our EMR server was using DAS and I had to 
replace the drives.  Didn't have a backup SAN to use so I had to use Legato to 
backup/restore to/from tape.  It took over 48 hours.  Yuk.

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:36:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Backing up 2 million small files
From: jk.har...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

I am doing 753 GB to a local USB and it is looking like close to 9 hours or so 
at the moment.  I am not using any Symantec software and it is doing a copy so 
no compression.  Since I am only at about 15% done this may change.

 
Jon


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Andy Shook  wrote:




The devil is in the detailsÿÿ¦.

 

1.   Is the file server being backed-up over the internal LAN?

a.   If so, is it over Gb?

b.  Separate backup VLAN or backup network?

2.   Specs of file server?

3.   Ditto for tape drive?

4.   Is the 700GB of files on internal server storage, DAS, NAS or SAN?

 

Thatÿÿ™s enough for now. 

 


Shook

 



From: Mousehunt [mailto:active_...@yahoo.com.sg] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:15 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up 2 million small files




 


Hi All,

I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but the 
number of files is 2 million. 

They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full backup. 
The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas NetBackup 
v6.5.


May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is 
welcome.

Thanks.

WY

 




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Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[James Kerr]

It works, I'm good to go, thanks.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Stovall 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:27 AM
  Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?


  No.  That's not valid.  It looks like the site is on a shared server so the 
simple www record will suffice since the provider is likely using host headers 
to present the correct content.  Just put in an A record with the ip, or a 
CNAME to site444.whatever.com and you should be good to go.  Let us know if it 
doesn't work.

   

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

   

  Can I setup an alias for www in this format "site444.website.com/website" ?

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Stovall 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:04 AM

Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

You need a record for www pointing to the external provider.  E.g. an A 
record with the static IP at your provider.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias 
mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want anything 
internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange server and its 
working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a browser I can't 
connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup 
zone (without AD) called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This 
works but what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't 
hosted with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

 

James

 

  

  

 


 

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~   ~

Re: Backing up 2 million small files

[Lee Douglas]

That's a really nice feature of Robocopy / Richcopy - the 2nd and successive
backups may only take minutes - assuming most of the files don't change
between backups.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> robocopy with /mir so you just catch the diffs?
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Mousehunt wrote:
>
>>  Hi All,
>>
>> I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB
>> but the number of files is 2 million.
>>
>> They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full
>> backup. The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas
>> NetBackup v6.5.
>>
>> May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is
>> welcome.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> WY
>>
>> --
>>
>> Search. browse and 
>> bookyour
>>  hotels and flights through Yahoo! Travel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~

Re: Backing up 2 million small files

[Michael . Leone]

Mousehunt  wrote on 08/14/2009 12:15:13 PM:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 
> 700GB but the number of files is 2 million. 

I know the feeling (if not the same number of files); my main file share 
is 1.5TB or so.

> They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a 
> full backup. The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are 
> using Veritas NetBackup v6.5.
> 
> May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any 
> suggestion is welcome.

Backup to disk first, so the backing up finishes first. Then dump to tape. 
That may take longer than 12 hrs total, but the majority of it is cloning 
to tape (that's the term EMC Networker uses for that).



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~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Ken Schaefer]

Keyboard is cramped. But otherwise it's great (with Win7). No noise, battery 
lasts for ever, weighs next to nothing. Can sit on the coffee table for weeks 
in sleep/hibernate - and turns on to do a quick internet search etc.

If I had my time over again, I'd get something that was 10-11" - just to get a 
less cramped keyboard. But something that has no fan, and SSD, is 
disconcertingly quiet and cool :-)

Cheers
Ken

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 14 August 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mini Notebooks

+1

I have a Dell Mini.  I find it mostly impractical.

--
ME2

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Charles Whitby 
mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Biggest complaint I've heard from people  who've gotten them is cramped 
keyboards, smallish displays, and no optical drive.

OK for checking e-mails and general surfing, easy to tote around,  not so good 
for business (WP & spreadsheet) work.

Might be able to pick up a refurbed thin notebook (like Thinkpad T40 or 
something of that ilk) for same of less $ than a netbook.


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Carol Fee 
mailto:c...@massbar.org>> wrote:
Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either for 
personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Backing up 2 million small files

[Jonathan Link]

robocopy with /mir so you just catch the diffs?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Mousehunt  wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
> I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but
> the number of files is 2 million.
>
> They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full
> backup. The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas
> NetBackup v6.5.
>
> May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is
> welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> WY
>
> --
>
> Search. browse and 
> bookyour
>  hotels and flights through Yahoo! Travel
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Backing up 2 million small files

[Ken Schaefer]

Direct attached USB should get you about 1GB/sec -> 1.2GB/sec, so around 10 
hours is about right.

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 15 August 2009 12:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backing up 2 million small files

I am doing 753 GB to a local USB and it is looking like close to 9 hours or so 
at the moment.  I am not using any Symantec software and it is doing a copy so 
no compression.  Since I am only at about 15% done this may change.

Jon
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Andy Shook 
mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote:

The devil is in the detailsÿÿ¦.



1.   Is the file server being backed-up over the internal LAN?

a.   If so, is it over Gb?

b.  Separate backup VLAN or backup network?

2.   Specs of file server?

3.   Ditto for tape drive?

4.   Is the 700GB of files on internal server storage, DAS, NAS or SAN?



Thatÿÿ(tm)s enough for now.



Shook



From: Mousehunt [mailto:active_...@yahoo.com.sg]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up 2 million small files



Hi All,

I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but the 
number of files is 2 million.

They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full backup. 
The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas NetBackup 
v6.5.

May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is 
welcome.

Thanks.

W



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Re: Anyone recomend a good PDF to Doc/XLS converter

[Don Kuhlman]

We use something for a custom app called PDF Factory - don't know anything 
about costs etc. though.





From: N Parr 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:36:18 AM
Subject: Anyone recomend a good PDF to Doc/XLS converter


There's a ton out there but I guess there's a difference based on if the pdf is 
searchable or not.  If it's not then I assume the cheaper converters won't work 
and you'll need to OCR it anyway?
Thanks


  
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Re: Backing up 2 million small files

[Jon Harris]

I am doing 753 GB to a local USB and it is looking like close to 9 hours or
so at the moment.  I am not using any Symantec software and it is doing a
copy so no compression.  Since I am only at about 15% done this may change.

Jon

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  The devil is in the detailsÿÿ¦.
>
>
>
> 1.   Is the file server being backed-up over the internal LAN?
>
> a.   If so, is it over Gb?
>
> b.  Separate backup VLAN or backup network?
>
> 2.   Specs of file server?
>
> 3.   Ditto for tape drive?
>
> 4.   Is the 700GB of files on internal server storage, DAS, NAS or
> SAN?
>
>
>
> Thatÿÿ™s enough for now.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Mousehunt [mailto:active_...@yahoo.com.sg]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2009 12:15 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Backing up 2 million small files
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but
> the number of files is 2 million.
>
> They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full
> backup. The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas
> NetBackup v6.5.
>
> May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is
> welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> WY
>
>
>  --
>
> Search. browse and 
> bookyour 
> hotels and flights through Yahoo! Travel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Jim Dandy]

I have a user with one of these Verison-HPs.  The keyboard is reasonable
and performance is OK for Office 2007.  In the days of people using two
monitors with their desktop, the biggest drawback is the micro-screen.
You can feel really constrained for screen space so, it usage is limited
to travel.  I suppose you could plug in an external monitor.  If I
remember right the monitor port is non-standard so you have to buy a
dongle if you want to use an external monitor.

 

Curt

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 


I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop... 

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo. 

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a
USB RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.) 

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP. 

4. The keyboard is full-size. 

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
-- 
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the 
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air 
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I 
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>> 
> The HP's are almost $500 aren't they? 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>> 
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use. 
>   
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip. 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use
?  TIA 
>   
>   
> 
> Carol Fee 
> Network Administrator 
> 617-338-0623 
> c...@massbar.org 
>   
>   
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>(617) 338-0500 
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RE: Mini Notebooks

[John Aldrich]

Depends. some vendors have a special cable that one can use to hook up drive
bay drives (i.e. floppy or CD/DVD) to usb or something.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mini Notebooks

 


Hey, I've not hijacked a thread in a while... 

I had a very silly accident and smashed the screen of my old HP laptop (used
mostly for web surfing).  I too am looking into minis for a replacement. 

Is there some sort of gizmo that might let me pull the DVD drive out of the
laptop and attach it via USB? 

Thanks, and sorry for the hijack!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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Sherry Abercrombie  wrote on 08/14/2009 09:36:52 AM:

> I've got an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.  Love it.  Pros:  
> size, weight, portability are awesome, great for general surfing, 
> email, note taking in meetings etc.  Cons:  Keyboard size is small, 
> any install of additional applications will require a USB key or USB
> based CD/DVD drive because it's not built in, not a real issue to 
> me, but worth noting.  Would not be a good piece of equipement for 
> users that need to do a lot of word processing/spreadsheet work.
> 
> FYI, I choose not to get the EEE PC that has the solid state drive 
> in it because of the size limitations there still.  I have a 
> "regular" 160GB harddrivepersonal preferance, YMMV.  Also 
> personal preference is that I must have a mouse to use with it, but,
> I have to have a mouse to use with my laptop also because I do not 
> like touchpads at all.

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Rod Trent  wrote:

> The Dell's are getting the best reviews.  Plus, if you watch 
> Twitter, they're always posting rebate codes.
> 

> 

> My wife is wanting one but until I get a pay increase that is out of
> the question.  The Dell's we have seen look nice but that is all I can
say. 
>   
> Jon

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare  > wrote: 
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use. 
>   
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip. 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks 
>   
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA 
>   
>   
> 
> Carol Fee 
> Network Administrator 
> 617-338-0623 
> c...@massbar.org 
>   
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> 
> -- 
> Sherry Abercrombie
> 
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
> Arthur C. Clarke 
>   
>   

 

 

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RE: Backing up 2 million small files

[Andy Shook]

The devil is in the details���.


1.   Is the file server being backed-up over the internal LAN?

a.   If so, is it over Gb?

b.  Separate backup VLAN or backup network?

2.   Specs of file server?

3.   Ditto for tape drive?

4.   Is the 700GB of files on internal server storage, DAS, NAS or SAN?

Thas enough for now.

Shook

From: Mousehunt [mailto:active_...@yahoo.com.sg]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backing up 2 million small files

Hi All,

I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but the 
number of files is 2 million.

They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full backup. 
The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas NetBackup 
v6.5.

May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is 
welcome.

Thanks.

WY



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book your 
hotels and flights through Yahoo! Travel





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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Erik Goldoff]

Yep, HP 1033cl netbook ... actually fully functional with HP Home and you
*can* make Virtual PC run on it... has 1gb RAM, 120 or 160gb hard drive,
forget which but it was plenty ...  no optical drive, but 90% of the time
don't need one anyway ... not extremely powerful for intensive recalc or
graphic work, but for starndard data entry, email, web surfing,  and RDP
while in transit it's pretty good
 
the keyboard is a bit tiny but for extended desktop use you can use the USB
port for peripherals, and screen is a bit compressed ... but it is so
convenient for travelling that it's simple to toss it in a briefcase ( or
purse for the women ), motorcycle saddlebag, even some car glove boxes ...
And dealing with the screen/keyboard being a bit tiny is MUCH better than
having no system and the cost  was below $400 ... I still have my Toshiba
with 12" screen for normal use but even that isn't as handy as the netbook.
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks


Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either
for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA
 
 
  _  

Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org
 



  
   Massachusetts Bar Association
   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500
 

 


 


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Backing up 2 million small files

[Mousehunt]

Hi All,

I have a customer who has a file server. The server data is about 700GB but the 
number of files is 2 million. 

They are currently using tape to backup and it uses 12 hours for a full backup. 
The customer wanted to reduce to 8 hours and they are using Veritas NetBackup 
v6.5.

May I know how can we achieve what the customer wants. Any suggestion is 
welcome.

Thanks.

WY



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Re: Windows 7 Sysprep'd image fails restart

[David W. McSpadden]

Call support.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adam Meixler 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:52 AM
  Subject: Windows 7 Sysprep'd image fails restart


  Hi, I just wrapped up a Windows 7 RTM build and used sysprep /shutdown /oobe 
/generalize to prep the machine to be WIM'd. Everything went fine until the 
machine was brought online afterwards to complete its setup. The machine (and 
all machines that have been deployed to) stops with an error "Windows could not 
finish configuring the system".

   

  Google hasn't turned up anything really useful aside from, kill wmpntrk.exe 
during sysprep or rebuild and try again.

   

  Is there any way to troubleshoot what is going wrong? (shift-f10 does get a 
cmd prompt)

   

  Thanks!




 

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RE: Social networking sites as a business resource

[David Lum]

Thanks ME2, I hate when I overlook searching using the "long string" method, 
usually I am better than that. Those links are awesome, thank you very much!

Dave

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Social networking sites as a business resource

There are lots of things to be found online for best practices and 
recommendations for use.  There are less for reflecting the risks, but they are 
out there and reflected in the top-10  too:

   
http://www.google.com/search?q=risks+involved+with+using+social+networking+sites+for+business

I very much agree with the short-lists of risks offered here:

   http://www.strikingweb.com/blog/Social-Networking-Risks.html
   
http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/networking-dos-and-donts-using-social-internet-sites-business

Although, what I see as the largest risk is controlling and editing the 
feedback and commentary you openly subject yourself to from competitors out to 
make you look bad, and the jerks of the world.

--
ME2

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:

I've been tasked to find out the potential pitfalls for a business leveraging 
social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc) as a medium for communication 
and other business uses.  Anyone have a good source for things to be aware of, 
best practices, etc when considering (or doing) such a thing?



TIA,
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764














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~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Tim Vander Kooi]

And yet it will still fit in your purse...it's magic!
TVK

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

>From the site:
"Equus NOBi - Convertible 8.9' Tablet"

Man, that thing is HUGE!

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

Sorry, meant to include a link to the NOBi since it is a lesser known, 
http://www.microsoft.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?ItmNo=8151975
TVK

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

For personal use I highly recommend the Equus NOBi convertible. They only sell 
for personal, educational and non-profit use, so there is that limitation, but 
considering the touch screen capabilities the price is awesome. I have one and 
it is a great little machine, much more useful since you don't have to use 
keyboard all that much. They also load Blue Dolphin on top of XP to make using 
the touch screen a breeze (then again I HATE XP, it's just such a yuck 
interface to go back to after using Vista and Windows 7 for over 2 years now).
TVK

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either for 
personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA



Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org

[cid:image002.gif@01CA1CCE.E965BD00]
   Massachusetts Bar Association
   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500


















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~   ~<>

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Richard Stovall]

>From the site:

"Equus NOBi - Convertible 8.9' Tablet"

 

Man, that thing is HUGE!

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

Sorry, meant to include a link to the NOBi since it is a lesser known, 
http://www.microsoft.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?ItmNo=8151975

TVK

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

For personal use I highly recommend the Equus NOBi convertible. They
only sell for personal, educational and non-profit use, so there is that
limitation, but considering the touch screen capabilities the price is
awesome. I have one and it is a great little machine, much more useful
since you don't have to use keyboard all that much. They also load Blue
Dolphin on top of XP to make using the touch screen a breeze (then again
I HATE XP, it's just such a yuck interface to go back to after using
Vista and Windows 7 for over 2 years now).

TVK

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

 

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA

 

 



Carol Fee

Network Administrator

617-338-0623

c...@massbar.org

 

   

   Massachusetts Bar Association

   20 West Street

   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~   ~<>

Windows 7 Sysprep'd image fails restart

[Adam Meixler]

Hi, I just wrapped up a Windows 7 RTM build and used sysprep /shutdown /oobe 
/generalize to prep the machine to be WIM'd. Everything went fine until the 
machine was brought online afterwards to complete its setup. The machine (and 
all machines that have been deployed to) stops with an error "Windows could not 
finish configuring the system".

Google hasn't turned up anything really useful aside from, kill wmpntrk.exe 
during sysprep or rebuild and try again.

Is there any way to troubleshoot what is going wrong? (shift-f10 does get a cmd 
prompt)

Thanks!

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Social networking sites as a business resource

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

There are lots of things to be found online for best practices and
recommendations for use.  There are less for reflecting the risks, but they
are out there and reflected in the top-10  too:


http://www.google.com/search?q=risks+involved+with+using+social+networking+sites+for+business

I very much agree with the short-lists of risks offered here:

   http://www.strikingweb.com/blog/Social-Networking-Risks.html

http://www.utahpulse.com/featured_article/networking-dos-and-donts-using-social-internet-sites-business

Although, what I see as the largest risk is controlling and editing the
feedback and commentary you openly subject yourself to from competitors out
to make you look bad, and the jerks of the world.

--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:23 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I’ve been tasked to find out the potential pitfalls for a business
> leveraging social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc) as a medium for
> communication and other business uses.  Anyone have a good source for things
> to be aware of, best practices, etc when considering (or doing) such a
> thing?
>
>
>
> TIA,
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~

Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Just in case: MX records should not point to CNAME records (aliases). MX
records should point to A records only.  Spam filters may see this and
penalize and/or block you.

Many web sites are servers that virtually serve web site content based on
the connecting host header (FQDN that is being used to resolve to the IP
address of the server); this is how a single server can host many web sites
simultaneously.

If the web server is not configured for FQDN you are trying to connect to,
it has no host header information in which to virtually serverthe correct
content for.  So, if I understand this correctly, you need to contact your
web host and have them add your new FQDN as an additional host header for
your site.

--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, James Kerr  wrote:

>  In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias
> mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want
> anything internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange
> server and its working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a
> browser I can't connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I created a
> new forward lookup zone (without AD) called domainname.org and created an
> alias called mail. This works but what do I need to do to be able to access
> the website which isn't hosted with us? Maybe I just went about this all
> wrong from the get go?
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~

Re: Paging the Powershell gurus

[Gavin Wilby]

To make a little clearer, I want to be able to use this:

*[ps] new-variable servername -value*

But then to be prompted to enter the hostname, so I can then drop the
"servername" into the previous script.



On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Gavin Wilby  wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> I use a anti-spam system that's on a remote server, and so I like to lock
> down my Receive Connectors/ SMTP servers to only accept email from certain
> IP addresses.
>
> I have the following script that kinda does it for me:
>
>
> *[PS] C:\Windows\System32>Set-ReceiveConnector "Windows SBS Internet
> Receive %SERVERNAME%" -RemoteIPRanges (Get-Content
> c:\users\sys_adm\desktop\%youriplist%.txt)*
> its a little bit of a pain though, as I have to have the IP list in a text
> file somewhere and then modify the script to use it. and also the receive
> connector name is never the same so i have to change that in the script.
>
> Id LIKE to have it so it asks for certain variables before it starts, so it
> picks up the right hostname for instance, a little like a set /p does.
>
> Can this be done?
>
> --
> Gavin Wilby,
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby
> GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Gavin Wilby,
Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby
GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk
Sent from Whitehaven, Eng, United Kingdom

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Re: Mini Notebooks

[David W. McSpadden]

We bought two recently but they both came with Home and not Pro so we took them 
back.
They did both get extremely HOT but they with the did perform well and seemed 
like they would be good for a kid or lite work.
Nothing like what my users would put them through though.
  - Original Message - 
  From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:31 AM
  Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks



  I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop... 

  1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo. 

  2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB 
RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.) 

  3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP. 

  4. The keyboard is full-size. 

  5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
  -- 
  Richard D. McClary 
  Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 

  ASPCA® 
  1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
  Urbana, IL  61802 

  richardmccl...@aspca.org 

  P: 217-337-9761 
  C: 217-417-1182 
  F: 217-337-9761 
  www.aspca.org 

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  "Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

  > I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the 
  > Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air 
  > cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I 
  > don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
  > 
  > >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>> 
  > The HP's are almost $500 aren't they? 
  >   
  > -sc 
  >   
  > From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
  > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
  > To: NT System Admin Issues
  > Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks 
  >   
  > We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
  > a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
  > 
  > >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>> 
  > My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use. 
  >   
  > Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
  > for a trip. 
  >   
  > -sc 
  >   
  > From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
  > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
  > To: NT System Admin Issues
  > Subject: Mini Notebooks 
  >   
  > Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
  > either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  
TIA 
  >   
  >   
  > 
  > Carol Fee 
  > Network Administrator 
  > 617-338-0623 
  > c...@massbar.org 
  >   
  >   
  >Massachusetts Bar Association 
  >20 West Street 
  >Boston, MA 02111-1204
  >(617) 338-0500 
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   
  >   
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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Sorry, meant to include a link to the NOBi since it is a lesser known, 
http://www.microsoft.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?ItmNo=8151975
TVK

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

For personal use I highly recommend the Equus NOBi convertible. They only sell 
for personal, educational and non-profit use, so there is that limitation, but 
considering the touch screen capabilities the price is awesome. I have one and 
it is a great little machine, much more useful since you don't have to use 
keyboard all that much. They also load Blue Dolphin on top of XP to make using 
the touch screen a breeze (then again I HATE XP, it's just such a yuck 
interface to go back to after using Vista and Windows 7 for over 2 years now).
TVK

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either for 
personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA



Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org

[cid:image002.gif@01CA1CCA.DC42D760]
   Massachusetts Bar Association
   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500










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Re: Mini Notebooks

[Linda Jones]

Using a Dell Inspiron mini right now on an airplane with wireless. Pretty
fun. It weighs a bit more than 2 pounds so is perfect for travel. It runs MS
Office just fine. As a consultant, I carry all of my client info everywhere.
I have encrypted part of the 160 GB  drive using TrueCrypt for this purpose.

I wouldn't edit videos on this thing, but for regular office apps it is just
fine.

Linda

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Carol Fee  wrote:

>  Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
> TIA
>
>
> *
> --
> * *Carol Fee*
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
>
>
>   *   Massachusetts Bar Association*
>20 West Street
>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>(617) 338-0500
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Mini Notebooks

[RichardMcClary]

I got curious and went next door to the Verizon shop...

1. It is definitely an HP - they make no effort to cover the logo.

2. It has WiFi and G3, but it has no RJ-45 jack.  (There is probably a USB 
RJ-45 ethernet adaptor out there some place.)

3. Standard is 1 Gb RAM, 80 Gb hard drive, and a flavor of XP.

4. The keyboard is full-size.

5. No optical drive, but it does have an SD card slot.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
richardmccl...@aspca.org
 
P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
www.aspca.org
 
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"Tom Miller"  wrote on 08/14/2009 10:19:32 AM:

> I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the 
> Verizon units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air 
> cards, which we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I 
> don't know if that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>>
> The HP?s are almost $500 aren?t they?
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks
> 
> We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its
> a branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.
> 
> >>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
> 
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip.
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks
> 
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ? 
 TIA
> 
> 
> 
> Carol Fee
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
> 
> 
>Massachusetts Bar Association
>20 West Street
>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>(617) 338-0500
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Paging the Powershell gurus

[Gavin Wilby]

Hi,

I use a anti-spam system that's on a remote server, and so I like to lock
down my Receive Connectors/ SMTP servers to only accept email from certain
IP addresses.

I have the following script that kinda does it for me:


*[PS] C:\Windows\System32>Set-ReceiveConnector "Windows SBS Internet Receive
%SERVERNAME%" -RemoteIPRanges (Get-Content
c:\users\sys_adm\desktop\%youriplist%.txt)*
its a little bit of a pain though, as I have to have the IP list in a text
file somewhere and then modify the script to use it. and also the receive
connector name is never the same so i have to change that in the script.

Id LIKE to have it so it asks for certain variables before it starts, so it
picks up the right hostname for instance, a little like a set /p does.

Can this be done?

-- 
Gavin Wilby,
Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby
GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk

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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Tim Vander Kooi]

For personal use I highly recommend the Equus NOBi convertible. They only sell 
for personal, educational and non-profit use, so there is that limitation, but 
considering the touch screen capabilities the price is awesome. I have one and 
it is a great little machine, much more useful since you don't have to use 
keyboard all that much. They also load Blue Dolphin on top of XP to make using 
the touch screen a breeze (then again I HATE XP, it's just such a yuck 
interface to go back to after using Vista and Windows 7 for over 2 years now).
TVK

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either for 
personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA



Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org

[cid:image001.gif@01CA1CC9.CE305A40]
   Massachusetts Bar Association
   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500






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RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[Richard Stovall]

No.  That's not valid.  It looks like the site is on a shared server so
the simple www record will suffice since the provider is likely using
host headers to present the correct content.  Just put in an A record
with the ip, or a CNAME to site444.whatever.com and you should be good
to go.  Let us know if it doesn't work.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

Can I setup an alias for www in this format
"site444.website.com/website" ?

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Stovall 


To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:04 AM

Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

You need a record for www pointing to the external provider.
E.g. an A record with the static IP at your provider.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an
alias mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I
want anything internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our
Exchange server and its working but when I try to go to
www.domainname.org with a browser I can't connect to the site. This is
what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup zone (without AD)
called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This works but
what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't hosted
with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

 

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Social networking sites as a business resource

[David Lum]

I've been tasked to find out the potential pitfalls for a business leveraging 
social networking sites (Facebook, Twitter, etc) as a medium for communication 
and other business uses.  Anyone have a good source for things to be aware of, 
best practices, etc when considering (or doing) such a thing?

TIA,
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



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RE: Mini Notebooks

[Tom Miller]

I bought one for a friend at Best Buy for about $350.  But the Verizon
units are about $250+ and we like that they ship with air cards, which
we already extensively use for our roaming staff.  I don't know if
that's a promotion or regular pricing but that's cheap.

>>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 11:04 AM >>>

The HP’s are almost $500 aren’t they?
 
-sc
 

From:Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 
We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its a
branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.

>>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>
My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
 
Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse for
a trip.
 
-sc
 

From:Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

 

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
 TIA

 

 


Carol Fee
Network Administrator
617-338-0623
c...@massbar.org
 
  
   Massachusetts Bar Association
   20 West Street
   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

  

  
 
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RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[Steven M. Caesare]

DNS only deals with hosts. So www can alias to everything to the left of
the slash. Everything to the right s a (virtual) directory that would
need to be present in the url on the "aliased" address as well.

 

-sc

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

Can I setup an alias for www in this format
"site444.website.com/website" ?

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Stovall 


To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:04 AM

Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

You need a record for www pointing to the external provider.
E.g. an A record with the static IP at your provider.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an
alias mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I
want anything internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our
Exchange server and its working but when I try to go to
www.domainname.org with a browser I can't connect to the site. This is
what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup zone (without AD)
called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This works but
what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't hosted
with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

 

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: thunderbird sending emails several days ahead

[Miguel Gonzalez]

Mistery solved. For some reason when I checked his machine's date and time I 
overlooked the fact that the date was wrong...It can be that sometimes I don't 
know which date I'm living in :)

Sorry for this stupidity

Miguel

--- El vie, 14/8/09, tony patton  escribió:

> De: tony patton 
> Asunto: RE: thunderbird sending emails several days ahead
> Para: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Fecha: viernes, 14 agosto, 2009 10:26
> Looks OK
> at that end.
> 
> 
> 
> How is the user
> determining the date
> is wrong, checking the sent items folder or the recipient
> telling them?
> 
> Any weird settings in the
> user.js file?
> 
> 
> 
> Use Tbird constantly at
> home but not
> here at work so can't check the config options.
> 
> Unfortunately, we use
> Lotus Notes.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> Tony Patton
> 
> Desktop Operations Cavan
> 
> Ext 8078
> 
> Direct Dial 049 435 2878
> 
> email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Miguel
> Gonzalez 
> 
> 14/08/2009 14:45
> 
> 
> 
> Please
> respond to
> 
> "NT System Admin Issues"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To
> "NT System Admin
> Issues"
> 
> 
> 
> cc
> 
> 
> 
> Subject
> RE: thunderbird
> sending emails several
> days ahead
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> sorry i pressed the enter key too
> quickly...The time
> is right, however the date is set to 9 days ahead
> 
> 
> 
> Miguel
> 
> 
> 
> --- El vie, 14/8/09, Miguel Gonzalez
> 
> escribió:
> 
> 
> 
> > De: Miguel Gonzalez
> 
> 
> > Asunto: RE: thunderbird sending emails several days
> ahead
> 
> > Para: "NT System Admin Issues"
> 
> 
> > Fecha: viernes, 14 agosto, 2009 9:43
> 
> > I have. These are the headers (I have
> 
> > replaced FQDN and IPs with xxx):
> 
> > 
> 
> > Received: from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx])    by
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id Received:
> 
> > n7EDWehZ007437    for
> ;
> 
> > Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:32:40 +0200
> 
> > Delivered-to: by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > (Postfix)    id 4AB0D11FAD0; Fri, 14
> Aug 2009
> 
> > 15:32:40 +0200 (CEST)
> 
> > unixs...@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > Received: from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx])    by
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > (Postfix) with ESMTP    id :
> 3B88411FAC8;
> 
> > Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:32:40 +0200 (CEST)
> 
> > Received: from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 
> > [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx])    (authenticated
> 
> > bits=0)    by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> (8.13.1/8.13.1)
> 
> > with ESMTP id n7EDWe47007434;    Fri,
> 14 Aug
> 
> > 2009 15:32:40 +0200
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Return-Path: 
> 
> > 
> 
> > --- El vie, 14/8/09, Ken Schaefer
> 
> 
> > escribió:
> 
> > 
> 
> > > De: Ken Schaefer 
> 
> > > Asunto: RE: thunderbird sending emails several
> days
> 
> > ahead
> 
> > > Para: "NT System Admin Issues"
> 
> 
> > > Fecha: viernes, 14 agosto, 2009 6:51
> 
> > > Have the user send an email to you.
> 
> > > Have a look at the SMTP headers.
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > ?
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Cheers
> 
> > > Ken
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > -Original Message-
> 
> > > From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es]
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Sent: Friday, 14 August 2009 6:10 PM
> 
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> 
> > > Subject: Re: thunderbird sending emails several
> days
> 
> > ahead
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Then everybody would report the same issue,
> isn't it?
> 
> > > That's not the case
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > Miguel
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > --- El vie, 14/8/09, tony patton
> 
> 
> > > escribió:
> 
> > > 
> 
> > > > De: tony patton
> 
> 
> > > > Asunto: Re: thunderbird sending emails
> several
> 
> > days
> 
> > > ahead
> 
> > > > Para: "NT System Admin Issues"
> 
> 
> > > > Fecha: viernes, 14 agosto, 2009 6:07
> 
> > > > I would say
> 
> > > > its the smtp server time that
> 
> > > > is off, but just a guess.
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Regards
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Tony Patton
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Desktop Operations Cavan
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Ext 8078
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Direct Dial 049 435 2878
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Miguel
> 
> > > > Gonzalez 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 14/08/2009 11:05
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Please
> 
> > > > respond to
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > "NT System Admin Issues"
> 
> > > >
> 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > To
> 
> > > > "NT System Admin
> 
> > > > Issues"
> 
> > > >
> 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > cc
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > 
> 
> > > > Subject
> 
> > > > thunderbird sending
> 
> > > > emails several days
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Re: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[James Kerr]

Can I setup an alias for www in this format "site444.website.com/website" ?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Stovall 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:04 AM
  Subject: RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?


  You need a record for www pointing to the external provider.  E.g. an A 
record with the static IP at your provider.

   

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

   

  In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias 
mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want anything 
internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange server and its 
working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a browser I can't 
connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup 
zone (without AD) called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This 
works but what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't 
hosted with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

   

  James

   

 


 

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RE: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[Richard Stovall]

You need a record for www pointing to the external provider.  E.g. an A
record with the static IP at your provider.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS change- what did I do wrong?

 

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias
mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want
anything internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange
server and its working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a
browser I can't connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I
created a new forward lookup zone (without AD) called domainname.org and
created an alias called mail. This works but what do I need to do to be
able to access the website which isn't hosted with us? Maybe I just went
about this all wrong from the get go?

 

James

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Steven M. Caesare]

The HP's are almost $500 aren't they?

 

-sc

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mini Notebooks

 

We are testing the Verizon unit with built in air card.  I think its a
branded HP.  Looks nice but still testing.

>>> "Steven M. Caesare"  8/14/2009 10:11 AM >>>

My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.

 

Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse for
a trip.

 

-sc

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

 

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA

 

 



Carol Fee

Network Administrator

617-338-0623

c...@massbar.org

 

  

   Massachusetts Bar Association

   20 West Street

   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DNS change- what did I do wrong?

[James Kerr]

In order to fix some issues with Exchange I needed to create an alias 
mail.domainname.org which is our external MX record. Basically I want anything 
internal that goes to mail.domainname.org to go to our Exchange server and its 
working but when I try to go to www.domainname.org with a browser I can't 
connect to the site. This is what I did in DNS. I created a new forward lookup 
zone (without AD) called domainname.org and created an alias called mail. This 
works but what do I need to do to be able to access the website which isn't 
hosted with us? Maybe I just went about this all wrong from the get go?

James
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~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> Geeze guys, I said that the choice for a harddrive over the ssd was personal
> preference ;)

  I ain't trying to argue anyone out of it, just explain *my* choice.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A bit OT: Need a linux package...

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:45 AM,  wrote:
>>   Look also at ntop and MRTG.
>
> Thanks, but our vendor specs Wireshark.

  In addition to, not instead of.  Neither are packet analyzers like
Wireshark is.

  ntop does sniff the wire, but only so it can present real-time
information of usage.  Kind of like a Task Manager for your network.
(The name actually comes from "network top"; "top" is a Unix tool
similar in intent to Task Manager.)

  MRTG graphs performance statistics over time.  Anything you can read
via SNMP, such as packet and error counters.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[RichardMcClary]

Hey, I've not hijacked a thread in a while...

I had a very silly accident and smashed the screen of my old HP laptop 
(used mostly for web surfing).  I too am looking into minis for a 
replacement.

Is there some sort of gizmo that might let me pull the DVD drive out of 
the laptop and attach it via USB?

Thanks, and sorry for the hijack!
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Sherry Abercrombie  wrote on 08/14/2009 09:36:52 AM:

> I've got an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.  Love it.  Pros:  
> size, weight, portability are awesome, great for general surfing, 
> email, note taking in meetings etc.  Cons:  Keyboard size is small, 
> any install of additional applications will require a USB key or USB
> based CD/DVD drive because it's not built in, not a real issue to 
> me, but worth noting.  Would not be a good piece of equipement for 
> users that need to do a lot of word processing/spreadsheet work.
> 
> FYI, I choose not to get the EEE PC that has the solid state drive 
> in it because of the size limitations there still.  I have a 
> "regular" 160GB harddrivepersonal preferance, YMMV.  Also 
> personal preference is that I must have a mouse to use with it, but,
> I have to have a mouse to use with my laptop also because I do not 
> like touchpads at all.

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Rod Trent  
wrote:
> The Dell's are getting the best reviews.  Plus, if you watch 
> Twitter, they're always posting rebate codes.
> 

> 

> My wife is wanting one but until I get a pay increase that is out of
> the question.  The Dell's we have seen look nice but that is all I can 
say.
>  
> Jon

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
 > wrote:
> My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>  
> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse 
> for a trip.
>  
> -sc
>  
> From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Mini Notebooks
>  
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use 
?  TIA
>  
>  
> 
> Carol Fee
> Network Administrator
> 617-338-0623
> c...@massbar.org
>  
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>Massachusetts Bar Association
>20 West Street
>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>(617) 338-0500
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> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
> Arthur C. Clarke
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Geeze guys, I said that the choice for a harddrive over the ssd was personal
preference ;)

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ben Scott wrote:
> >> ... solid state drive ...
> >
> >  (1) it was cheaper and (2) no moving parts.
>
>   P.S.: And (3) less power usage, so more battery life.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Azle, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A bit OT: Need a linux package...

[RichardMcClary]

Thanks, but our vendor specs Wireshark.

Ben Scott  wrote on 08/14/2009 09:28:43 AM:

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:44 AM,  wrote:
> > For dealing with VoIP QoS issues, it would be nice to have Wireshark
> > monitoring traffic between either the gateway or the "media server"
> > continuously.  Then, when someone reports a call which is distorted, 
etc, I
> > can grab the capture from that time to send to support.
> 
>   Look also at ntop and MRTG.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
> 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ben Scott wrote:
>> ... solid state drive ...
>
>  (1) it was cheaper and (2) no moving parts.

  P.S.: And (3) less power usage, so more battery life.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
> any install of additional applications will require a USB key or USB
> based CD/DVD drive because it's not built in ...

  There's also an SD card slot on most (all?) of the Eee models.  But
the most common install path for me is network (wired or wireless).
Especially in the world of Linux, where that's more the norm than the
exception.  But even with Windows, just share the CD drive on another
PC, or -- this is what I do -- copy all install CDs to a big hard
drive and install from there.  Makes re-install/upgrade easier to have
everything in one place.

> Would not be a good piece of equipement for users that need to do a lot of 
> word
> processing/spreadsheet work.

  Heh, no, I can't imagine doing a large amount of typing on it.  :)
Heck, during setup I plugged a full-sized external USB keyboard in
just to make that easier.

> FYI, I choose not to get the EEE PC that has the solid state drive in it
> because of the size limitations there still.

  Yah, 4 GB isn't very much, but I went that route because (1) it was
cheaper and (2) no moving parts.  This way I can leave it in my bag,
toss it on to the car seat or couch, and otherwise mistreat it, and I
don't have to worry about a head crash.  And I do manage to get it
lost or stolen, I'm only out $200.  With the SD card slot, I have room
for movies, should I want them.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: thunderbird sending emails several days ahead

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Yeah, especially since I see nothing of a date that is 9 days ahead of
today, unless you think that it's August 5th...

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Miguel Gonzalez
>  wrote:
> > I have. These are the headers (I have replaced FQDN and IPs with xxx):
>
>   Those aren't the full headers.  They're also wrapped, which makes
> them hard to decipher.  Use http://pastebin.com or similar to post the
> full headers.  You can replace the IP and names if you like, but the
> rest is important.  In particular, the "Date:" header is rather the
> point of this whole discussion.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Azle, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Mini Notebooks

[Richard Stovall]

I've got a Dell Mini 9 that I use for traveling and whatnot that's the
bee's knees.  Win7 RC runs exceptionally well on it (it has the 16GB
SSD).  The keyboard blows, and you couldn't do real 'work' with it
productively, but that's not what it's for.  It really is awesome for
checking in while traveling - light, small, and holds a charge well.

 

RS

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mini Notebooks

 

Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
TIA

 

 



Carol Fee

Network Administrator

617-338-0623

c...@massbar.org

 

   

   Massachusetts Bar Association

   20 West Street

   Boston, MA 02111-1204
   (617) 338-0500

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Sherry Abercrombie]

I've got an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.  Love it.  Pros:  size,
weight, portability are awesome, great for general surfing, email, note
taking in meetings etc.  Cons:  Keyboard size is small, any install of
additional applications will require a USB key or USB based CD/DVD drive
because it's not built in, not a real issue to me, but worth noting.  Would
not be a good piece of equipement for users that need to do a lot of word
processing/spreadsheet work.

FYI, I choose not to get the EEE PC that has the solid state drive in it
because of the size limitations there still.  I have a "regular" 160GB
harddrivepersonal preferance, YMMV.  Also personal preference is that I
must have a mouse to use with it, but, I have to have a mouse to use with my
laptop also because I do not like touchpads at all.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Rod Trent  wrote:

> The Dell's are getting the best reviews.  Plus, if you watch Twitter,
> they're always posting rebate codes.
>
> --
>
>
> My wife is wanting one but until I get a pay increase that is out of the
> question.  The Dell's we have seen look nice but that is all I can say.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
>>  My wife has an Asus EEE PC netbook for personal use.
>>
>>
>>
>> Loves it for light duty surfing/email/media. Shoves it in her purse for a
>> trip.
>>
>>
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Carol Fee [mailto:c...@massbar.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2009 10:09 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Mini Notebooks
>>
>>
>>
>> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
>> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
>> TIA
>>
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>> *Carol Fee*
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> 617-338-0623
>>
>> c...@massbar.org
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>>20 West Street
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>>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>>(617) 338-0500
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-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: thunderbird sending emails several days ahead

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Miguel Gonzalez
 wrote:
> I have. These are the headers (I have replaced FQDN and IPs with xxx):

  Those aren't the full headers.  They're also wrapped, which makes
them hard to decipher.  Use http://pastebin.com or similar to post the
full headers.  You can replace the IP and names if you like, but the
rest is important.  In particular, the "Date:" header is rather the
point of this whole discussion.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

+1

I have a Dell Mini.  I find it mostly impractical.

--
ME2


On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Charles Whitby
wrote:

> Biggest complaint I've heard from people  who've gotten them is cramped
> keyboards, smallish displays, and no optical drive.
> OK for checking e-mails and general surfing, easy to tote around,  not so
> good for business (WP & spreadsheet) work.
>
> Might be able to pick up a refurbed thin notebook (like Thinkpad T40 or
> something of that ilk) for same of less $ than a netbook.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Carol Fee  wrote:
>
>>  Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these
>> either for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> *
>> --
>> * *Carol Fee*
>> Network Administrator
>> 617-338-0623
>> c...@massbar.org
>>
>>
>>   *   Massachusetts Bar Association*
>>20 West Street
>>Boston, MA 02111-1204
>>(617) 338-0500
>>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: Mini Notebooks

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Carol Fee wrote:
> Very general question - anyone have any experience with any of these either
> for personal or business ( limited functionality required ) use ?  TIA

  I bought an Asus Eee PC 900A from BestBuy for $200 a few months ago.
 1.6 GHz Atom CPU, 1 GB RAM, 4 GB SSD.  Runs Linux great.  Handy for
taking notes, or surfing the web on the run, or remote access.  It's
not suitable to replace a full-sized laptop, but that's really not
what it's intended for.  I see it as more of a super-PDA than a
mini-laptop.  From that point-of-view, the display and keyboard are
*big*.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~