Re: Epic Fail
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: I've also seen this cause more subtle differences. For example, at home, I sometimes get different Google search results vs at work. Both on Comcast, within 30 miles of each other. Different Google cookies, so different search histories -- unless you log in to the same GMail or other Google account at both places, they'll have different histories. I do actually tend to log in to the same Google account in both places, but now that you mention it, I can't guarantee that wasn't the issue. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: ... runs a command for every computer it finds on the network ... Nice, Ben Thanks! Thanks. It's always good to see different approaches. That was my thinking. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network
I use net view combined with psexec in a few of my command scripts (most notably the ones that do *gpupdate* and *wuauclt /detectnow*), however I find that you've got to have your browser service in good working order for it to function as expected. Sometimes when the browser is getting it's electrons in a twist, I'll find machines in the server subnet not appearing when the script is run from the workstations subnet, and vice versa. If you find this issue, maybe it's time to break out the dark mysteries of *browstat *and find out how your browsing is doing. On 26 March 2010 00:36, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful. It runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via NET VIEW). Useful when you want to do something on every computer currently running on the LAN. You can specify patterns to match and patterns to exclude. The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer. It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two different OCX control files for each matching computer. http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Equallogic and Sata
What kind of ratio are you seeing for clients to array with VDI. And are you doing anything intensive with your desktops or are they just normal business apps? I really want to use VDI in the future when we can finally start doing OS refreshes. From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Equallogic and Sata I'll agree with the others and say that SATA works great on the EQ's (even though I use the SAS versions nowadays). You mentioned virtual machines... one thing that will eat up iops like nothing else is if you start doing vdi on top of the virtual machines. If so, measure carefully with San HQ and move slowly so that you don't max out the array. -Anders On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000 series? My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he is for 7.2TB of SAS. I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such off the SAN. Any experience with these models? My other option is the HP P4000 G2 series. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Client Security
I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That's the only thing I can think of that I've seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Script: Run a command for each computer on network
Nice, I feel violated after stepping into Bens dumping ground! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network Nice, Ben Thanks. It's always good to see different approaches. -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful. It runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via NET VIEW). Useful when you want to do something on every computer currently running on the LAN. You can specify patterns to match and patterns to exclude. The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer. It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two different OCX control files for each matching computer. http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:26 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Sometimes when the browser is getting it's electrons in a twist, I'll find machines in the server subnet not appearing when the script is run from the workstations subnet, and vice versa. While the NetBIOS browser is certainly not the most reliable thing in the universe, I find the following helps: A1. Use WINS A2. Configure all computers as NetBIOS P-nodes (peer-to-peer) (no broadcasts) A3. On each subnet, designate a small number of reliable computers be preferred master browsers -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
lenovo laptop help from the list
My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: lenovo laptop help from the list
While I've never used their service dept, MicroCenter here in the DC/VA/MD area is probably the best store type of place for computer gear... far better than Best buy, etc... It's almost an East Coast version of Fry's (albeit far smaller). They have a repair counter. There's one in Fairfax, which isn't too far from him. -sc From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: lenovo laptop help from the list
I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
No AV scanning that box. I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040. Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650) That takes me to this link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspx Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being attempted, including: 1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all image files 2. prior error messages in the event log 3. available RAM on the system 4. configuration settings 5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks All of these should've been OK. Just doing a straight upgrade. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: lenovo laptop help from the list
He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely needs to hand it to someone who has a clue. Thanks. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer don.gu...@prufoxroach.comwrote: I’ve had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no means a hardware guru. If he’s OK with it, have him order the fan and do it himself. It’s gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what’s involved, but don’t think it’s going to be that difficult. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: lenovo laptop help from the list
+1 on that. You can download the hardware maintenance manual from the Lenovo support site and probably find a fan on eBay. I replaced wireless card in my T40 that way, no big deal. (Also did the keyboard on my daughter's Gateway laptop in the same manner - get hardware manual, order keyboard, yadda , yadda) At least get the hardware maintenance manual (freebie) and look it over. If it looks too daunting, take it somewhere.. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Don Guyer don.gu...@prufoxroach.comwrote: I’ve had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no means a hardware guru. If he’s OK with it, have him order the fan and do it himself. It’s gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what’s involved, but don’t think it’s going to be that difficult. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: lenovo laptop help from the list
I missed the part about him being the bosses son. They can prolly afford to drop it off somewhere. J Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo laptop help from the list He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely needs to hand it to someone who has a clue. Thanks. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer don.gu...@prufoxroach.com wrote: I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: lenovo laptop help from the list
I caught the part about having a clue. That usually precludes the boss and his son. LOL From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: lenovo laptop help from the list I missed the part about him being the bosses son. They can prolly afford to drop it off somewhere. :-) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: lenovo laptop help from the list He isn't technical at all, not all that sure it is the fan, definitely needs to hand it to someone who has a clue. Thanks. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Don Guyer don.gu...@prufoxroach.com wrote: I've had my T61 apart a few times to fix various things and I am by no means a hardware guru. If he's OK with it, have him order the fan and do it himself. It's gonna be much cheaper. Google it to see what's involved, but don't think it's going to be that difficult. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: lenovo laptop help from the list My boss has a son in Arlington, VA who needs help with a T60 that is out of warrantee. He thinks it just needs a fan and wants to be careful where he takes it. I am in Tulsa, Ok and have no connections there. Anyone know of a person or place to recommend there? any help greatly appreciated. Jeff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems. On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: No AV scanning that box. I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040. Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650) That takes me to this link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971%28WS.10%29.aspx Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being attempted, including: 1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all image files 2. prior error messages in the event log 3. available RAM on the system 4. configuration settings 5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks All of these should've been OK. Just doing a straight upgrade. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Friday News (Sorta OT)
Excellent. -sc From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT) Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrim e-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that? Note - the snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems. On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: No AV scanning that box. I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040. Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650) That takes me to this link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971%28WS.10%29.aspx Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being attempted, including: 1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all image files 2. prior error messages in the event log 3. available RAM on the system 4. configuration settings 5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks All of these should've been OK. Just doing a straight upgrade. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Equallogic and Sata
Our VDI needs are so low that we're not maxing out a single array. We're just doing business apps. But I still find the read/write ratio is between 50/50 and 20/80 instead of the 80/20 I was expecting. Considering a write on raid5 generates 4 backend iops means that the difference on an assumed 10 client iops is upwards to 32 - 16 = 16 backend iops per client more than I had initially counted on. Scale that to 100 clients and you might max out an array far earlier than you were expecting. Or not, depending on the VDI technology and desktop usage. I'm advocating going slow, measure and don't assume that a client doesnt use any iops. -Anders On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:41 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote: What kind of ratio are you seeing for clients to array with VDI. And are you doing anything intensive with your desktops or are they just normal business apps? I really want to use VDI in the future when we can finally start doing OS refreshes. -- *From:* Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 12:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Equallogic and Sata I'll agree with the others and say that SATA works great on the EQ's (even though I use the SAS versions nowadays). You mentioned virtual machines... one thing that will eat up iops like nothing else is if you start doing vdi on top of the virtual machines. If so, measure carefully with San HQ and move slowly so that you don't max out the array. -Anders On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000 series? My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he is for 7.2TB of SAS. I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such off the SAN. Any experience with these models? My other option is the HP P4000 G2 series. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
That about sums up our experience. I last heard the long awaited next version is due out the second half of this year. It's been pushed back a number of times, as they add requested features. I'm hoping that means improved reporting, and more granular control from the console. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Probable Contrarian ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Epic Fail
On 26 Mar 2010 at 8:04, Ben Scott wrote: I do actually tend to log in to the same Google account in both places, but now that you mention it, I can't guarantee that wasn't the issue. I use a number of different Google accounts and have a routine which automatically searches every night for certain things. My search results will vary depending on which one is logged in at the time of the search. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning
Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up. You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d. Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning On 25 Mar 2010 at 22:57, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb) wrote: That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name to the Microsoft Antimalware process of MsMpEng.exe used in OneCare and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows Defender??) Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming. Probably an intentional mis-naming by the malware. Actually it turned out to be a true nasty trojan, not an FP (although I had those today also*). Info pages here: W32/IRCbot.gen.aj http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_252087.htm W32/Rimecud http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_237984.htm My infections had the filename of the first of those but the exact file- location and registry-keys of the second. VIPRE identified them as Worm.Win32.Rimecud [where DO they get these names???] and the VIPRE info page (doesn't say anything useful, unfortunately) is here: http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/ThreatDisplay.aspx?name=Worm.Win32.Rimecudtid=4268277cs=50289929C7DB40A0D03710195D3B1B1C or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydtnjw6 I had three machines where the VIPRE Deep Scan found this. I need to make sure I get Deep Scans on the rest of the network RSN as this spreads via network shares among other methods. Angus * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network. Submitted them to Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud. No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM Florida time when I submitted them. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion. What about the federal people that were working with this guy. They get to skate with nothing bad to them? They knew he was a hacker and were not watching what he was doing? Something is not right there as well. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
I've seen it miss some tools that it should have found when they were dropped onto the machine and not pick them up for a few days. Not good but at least no hacks were done or they were blocked if attempted. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
How about the businesses who let this happen? On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion. What about the federal people that were working with this guy. They get to skate with nothing bad to them? They knew he was a hacker and were not watching what he was doing? Something is not right there as well. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning
Darn spelling correction! :-) is tasked with Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: Joe Frederick Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up. You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d. Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning On 25 Mar 2010 at 22:57, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb) wrote: That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name to the Microsoft Antimalware process of MsMpEng.exe used in OneCare and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows Defender??) Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming. Probably an intentional mis-naming by the malware. Actually it turned out to be a true nasty trojan, not an FP (although I had those today also*). Info pages here: W32/IRCbot.gen.aj http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_252087.htm W32/Rimecud http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_237984.htm My infections had the filename of the first of those but the exact file- location and registry-keys of the second. VIPRE identified them as Worm.Win32.Rimecud [where DO they get these names???] and the VIPRE info page (doesn't say anything useful, unfortunately) is here: http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/ThreatDisplay.aspx?name=Worm.Win32.Rimecudtid=4268277cs=50289929C7DB40A0D03710195D3B1B1C or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydtnjw6 I had three machines where the VIPRE Deep Scan found this. I need to make sure I get Deep Scans on the rest of the network RSN as this spreads via network shares among other methods. Angus * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network. Submitted them to Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud. No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM Florida time when I submitted them. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
[OT]: Script Editors
Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT]: Script Editors
religious war VI /religious war Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
How about this: Prosecutors estimate the group stole tens of millions of debit and credit card numbers, costing corporations and banks millions when they were forced to cancel accounts, open new accounts, monitor accounts for fraud, *beef up their network security* and invest in public relations to ensure they wouldn't lose customers. Authorities found more than 40 million distinct card numbers on two of Gonzalez's computer servers. Um They needed to do that in the first place, so they wouldn't have to make the other expenditures... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: How about the businesses who let this happen? On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion. What about the federal people that were working with this guy. They get to skate with nothing bad to them? They knew he was a hacker and were not watching what he was doing? Something is not right there as well. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
Have you tried to import it? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that? Note - the snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems. On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: No AV scanning that box. I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040. Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650) That takes me to this link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971%28WS.10%29.aspx Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being attempted, including: 1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all image files 2. prior error messages in the event log 3. available RAM on the system 4. configuration settings 5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks All of these should've been OK. Just doing a straight upgrade. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
slightly OT : Netscreen 5GT config in Juniper SSG5 ???
just had a call from a customer, their netscreen 5gt seems damaged, it keeps resetting even though power light stays on ( external power supply seems OK ) so the question posed to me was : Can the the newer Juniper SSG 5 just load the Netscreen 5GT config file and work ( including site-to-site VPN tunnels ) or will it have to be redone from scratch ? So, does anyone on this list have experience or knowledge of this you can share ? Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2
No, since there a couple of snapshots...I'm merging them into the parent disk first. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried to import it? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: So I have a good snapshot, is there a way to restore that? Note - the snapshot doesn't show up in the HV Manager. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I haven't had much luck doing R1 to R2 upgrades in our ESX 4 environment. A lot of flaky network issues with upgraded boxes, hangs on startup, all sorts of weird behaviour. In the end I opted to build a new template fresh from R2 rather than upgrade existing R1 systems. On 26 March 2010 13:57, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: No AV scanning that box. I'm getting an event id 3070 and 3040. Unnamed VM' failed to initialize. (Virtual machine 64EF49F6-3922-44E1-BB24-254088FE6650) That takes me to this link http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971(WS.10).aspxhttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd581971%28WS.10%29.aspx Check the environment in which the start virtual machine operation was being attempted, including: 1. access and permissions to the configuration file, memory file and all image files 2. prior error messages in the event log 3. available RAM on the system 4. configuration settings 5. disk space for the memory file and any expanding virtual hard disks All of these should've been OK. Just doing a straight upgrade. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: Are you running any file-level AV software on the host server? That’s the only thing I can think of that I’ve seen completely kill off guests like that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961804. -Bonnie *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:26 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2 Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine. Went through the upgrade and let it run. At home now, thinking the upgrade should be finished. Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is nowhere to be seen. I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that doesn't show up in the console. The backup files do seem to be there, but what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead? I've done these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues. ANy ideas? -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: How would you go about this?
I don't understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all the discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives, integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is (IIRC) the second comment I've read in the last few months where someone has difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you're buying factory gear from hard drive to power cord you're paying premium top dollar. That money should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific performance requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can't get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How would you go about this? You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations and servers. Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: slightly OT : Netscreen 5GT config in Juniper SSG5 ???
I haven't had much luck with that. I'm sure it can be a pain if you have 100 tunnels, but if it's a relatively small amount then you're probably better off doing the config from scratch. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: just had a call from a customer, their netscreen 5gt seems damaged, it keeps resetting even though power light stays on ( external power supply seems OK ) so the question posed to me was : Can the the newer Juniper SSG 5 just load the Netscreen 5GT config file and work ( including site-to-site VPN tunnels ) or will it have to be redone from scratch ? So, does anyone on this list have experience or knowledge of this you can share ? Thanks in advance Erik Goldoff ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT]: Script Editors
I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart scripting, but I really liked it. This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope it only got better and didn't inherit any new version quirks On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote: Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT]: Script Editors
+1 for Primal. They also have free specialty editors. Have you tried the built-in Powershell ISE for ps1 scripts? Context is a context aware tabbed notepad, and free. http://www.contexteditor.org/-- I use this one the most. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT]: Script Editors I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart scripting, but I really liked it. This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope it only got better and didn't inherit any new version quirks On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote: Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com/ This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
I would have liked to seen the top management of them prosecuted as well but I am realistic enough to know that is not going to happen. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: How about the businesses who let this happen? On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion. What about the federal people that were working with this guy. They get to skate with nothing bad to them? They knew he was a hacker and were not watching what he was doing? Something is not right there as well. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Friday News (Sorta OT)
They still took a major PR hit and anytime this type of thing happens to them again it makes it easier for the lawyers to get damages out of the company which will have an adverse effect on earnings which will hurt management in the pocket. BUT it still should never have happened with the relative ease that it was done. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: How about this: Prosecutors estimate the group stole tens of millions of debit and credit card numbers, costing corporations and banks millions when they were forced to cancel accounts, open new accounts, monitor accounts for fraud, *beef up their network security* and invest in public relations to ensure they wouldn't lose customers. Authorities found more than 40 million distinct card numbers on two of Gonzalez's computer servers. Um They needed to do that in the first place, so they wouldn't have to make the other expenditures... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: How about the businesses who let this happen? On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Not long enough and not severe enough, but that is just my opinion. What about the federal people that were working with this guy. They get to skate with nothing bad to them? They knew he was a hacker and were not watching what he was doing? Something is not right there as well. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Hacker gets harsh sentence: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/03/26/hacker-gets-harshest-cybercrime-sentence-passed/ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
I'm not in a position to do it now, but I'm trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it's going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: [OT]: Script Editors
Haven't progressed to PS yet, unfortunately. Hopefully I'll get around to it this year, time permitting. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: John Allhiser jallhi...@generaliusa.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 26/03/2010 17:17 Subject: RE: [OT]: Script Editors +1 for Primal. They also have free specialty editors. Have you tried the built-in Powershell ISE for ps1 scripts? Context is a context aware tabbed notepad, and free. http://www.contexteditor.org/-- I use this one the most. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT]: Script Editors I played with Primal Script a few years back soley for Kixtart scripting, but I really liked it. This was 2004-2005 timeframe, I hope it only got better and didn't inherit any new version quirks On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote: Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
That's how I'm approaching things. One physical, one maybe two virtual DC's. No need to upgrade the 2003 boxes, just let them go when it's their time! On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you intend to do at the time? I know that the last place I worked we skipped the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not want to keep a lot of hardware around. Space for them was at a premium both in the racks and on the floor. The only reason for the last DC to remain physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the networking was done. If things were different there would have been no phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
We're a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that. I don't know enough about virtual machines to be comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J I certainly wouldn't object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them reside on the SAN. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later) Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you intend to do at the time? I know that the last place I worked we skipped the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not want to keep a lot of hardware around. Space for them was at a premium both in the racks and on the floor. The only reason for the last DC to remain physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the networking was done. If things were different there would have been no phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I'm not in a position to do it now, but I'm trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it's going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: : Script Editors
On 26 Mar 2010 at 17:03, Michael B. Smith wrote: religious war VI /religious war flamebait What is VI? I've used vi, use it extensively on my Linux systems. /flamebait I still use qedit in DOS boxes a lot -- I'm going to miss it when I move to Win7/64. I use metapad a lot for quick edits, notepad++ when I have a lot to do. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning
ASF: * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network. Submitted them to Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud. No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM Florida time when I submitted them. On 26 Mar 2010 at 12:14, Stu Sjouwerman wrote: Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up. You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d. Thanks, Stu. I already had, I think via the web form, and he got back to me this morning confirming their FP-ness. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: How would you go about this?
On 26 Mar 2010 at 10:05, Mike Gill wrote: if you can´t get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill FWIW I'm about to write a memo to a client telling them we need to replace their Windows 2000 Server box, which I put in sometime in 2004. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: How would you go about this?
I pretty much agree, we replace after three years, then we have always re-tasked the systems and used them for other projects for at least 5 years. We have some that are whitebox products that are over 7 years and still running. If we do not have a production use for them we move them into a test network and still utilize them there. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How would you go about this? I don't understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all the discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives, integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is (IIRC) the second comment I've read in the last few months where someone has difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you're buying factory gear from hard drive to power cord you're paying premium top dollar. That money should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific performance requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can't get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How would you go about this? You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations and servers. Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
I would be looking at maybe one virtual in each of the outer offices and one in the main office with leaving all of your physicals in place until they were dying or were no longer supportable. Putting them on the SAN for backup purposes is a very good idea. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: We’re a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with that. I don’t know enough about virtual machines to be comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J I certainly wouldn’t object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them reside on the SAN. [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later) Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you intend to do at the time? I know that the last place I worked we skipped the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not want to keep a lot of hardware around. Space for them was at a premium both in the racks and on the floor. The only reason for the last DC to remain physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the networking was done. If things were different there would have been no phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
[OT - it's Friday!] RE: : Script Editors
Ttthhht :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: : Script Editors On 26 Mar 2010 at 17:03, Michael B. Smith wrote: religious war VI /religious war flamebait What is VI? I've used vi, use it extensively on my Linux systems. /flamebait I still use qedit in DOS boxes a lot -- I'm going to miss it when I move to Win7/64. I use metapad a lot for quick edits, notepad++ when I have a lot to do. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT]: Script Editors
PrimalScript is pretty sweet. -Original Message- From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT]: Script Editors
I have PrimalScript, I still use notepad++ a lot. I also primarily use PowerShell. If you want a cross language one then PrimalScript is pretty good (I think you can use it 30 days for free too). If just PowerShell only then PowerShellPlus is awesome. So a better question is, what is driving you to look for a better script tool? Steven On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov wrote: PrimalScript is pretty sweet. -Original Message- From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: [OT]: Script Editors
unix is case sensitive vi /unix is case sensitive Sorry, just being an a$$. :) Now on topic: I just downloaded this: http://powergui.org/index.jspa ...while I wait for my boss to approve purchasing either PrimalScript or Powershell Plus (http://www.idera.com/Products/PowerShell/PowerShell-Plus/) -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT]: Script Editors religious war VI /religious war Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT]: Script Editors
I have both, but use ASE more than PrimalScript on a daily basis. The main things I like about ASE are the ScriptForm Designer and the WMI Wizard. Both are great tools. YMMV Chris Bodnar, MCSE Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 From: tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 03/26/2010 01:56 PM Subject:[OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning
Excellent !! Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning ASF: * FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network. Submitted them to Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud. No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM Florida time when I submitted them. On 26 Mar 2010 at 12:14, Stu Sjouwerman wrote: Joe Frederick here at Sunbelt is takes with handling FP's when they come up. You can report these directly to him. He's cc-d. Thanks, Stu. I already had, I think via the web form, and he got back to me this morning confirming their FP-ness. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: printer redirection woes
No, it is definitely the 64 bit driver. Yesterday, it looked like I couldn't get much info like driver location from the printer properties. i assumed that was becuase the driver is included with Win7. I can relook again when I get access to the machine. Bill James Hill wrote: It really does sound like the driver is 32bit when you have selected to import a 64bit or vice versa. Sometimes when a driver won't import on the server you can upload it from a client. So log on to the client and then browse to printers and faxes on the terminal server. Then select File - Server Properties. Select the Drivers tab and click on Add etc. I have the universal driver on my 2008 servers but don't have any 03's to test it on. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: printer redirection woes Oops, I somehow deleted that info out of my original post. It's a 2003 32 bit terminal server. James Hill wrote: What version of terminal server? -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: printer redirection woes Hi all, We have a client a terminal server. They have a laserjet 1320 USB printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop. The user now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP Universal Driver. Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an additional driver for x64. It errors and says that a driver can't be found for the requested processor architecture. Am I screwed here? Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here? Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT]: Script Editors
Vim On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:03, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: religious war VI /religious war Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [OT]: Script Editors Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? I'm using NotePad++ and VBSEdit at the moment for creating mainly VBscripts, they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. Going to take a look at these AdminScriptEditor http://www.adminscripteditor.com/ PrimalScript http://www.primaltools.com/products/info.asp?p=PrimalScript They're not cheap, look to have a lot of features and I've got provisional approval for the cost. Just wondering what everyone else was using or other options to look at. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
True That true and with bess it would be easy Also wonder if you can get a pin and bbm?? --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 3:06 PM Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
That too would work - Original Message - From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com jgarciaitl...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:15:23 2010 Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager. My BES is a VM. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
As is mine which is why I specified. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:17:47 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager. My BES is a VM. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally,
RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes wifi, be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan? I think so, right. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote: Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager. My BES is a VM. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
Think about it from a recoverability stand-point. Pretty good read: http://www.petri.co.il/domain-controller-virtualization-options.htm Original Blog by Ben Armstrong...includes questions/answers in the comments section: http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2008/11/24/the-domain-controller-dilemma.aspx - Sean On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: I would be looking at maybe one virtual in each of the outer offices and one in the main office with leaving all of your physicals in place until they were dying or were no longer supportable. Putting them on the SAN for backup purposes is a very good idea. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: We’re a relatively small organization (3 sites, all within 30 minutes driving distance, connected by a VPN) and currently have 2 physical DCs. My only concern about having all virtual DCs is that I’m not sure I’d be comfortable with that. I don’t know enough about virtual machines to be comfortable with all my eggs in one basket. J I certainly wouldn’t object to having 1 or 2 virtual DCs and let them reside on the SAN. [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2010 1:30 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later) Would that not depend on the load, how old the hardware is, and what you intend to do at the time? I know that the last place I worked we skipped the 2003 R2 step and went with 2008 but that machine was a VM as I did not want to keep a lot of hardware around. Space for them was at a premium both in the racks and on the floor. The only reason for the last DC to remain physical was that it was the PDCe and there were several trusts involved that were very difficult to setup and keep running due to the way the networking was done. If things were different there would have been no phyical DC's all would have been VM's running on two differnet boxes. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I’m not in a position to do it now, but I’m trying to think ahead a year or two and wondering how hard it’s going to be to upgrade our DCs when we want to go from 2003R2 to the newest and best thing. Assuming I wanted to upgrade today, would it be better to start from scratch on new hardware and just add the 2008 machine to the mix of the AD and then upgrade the schema or what? Also, I was talking to a potential SAN vendor this morning and they mentioned virtualizing machines. I would think one would not want to virtualize all of their domain controllers, would you? Would it be safe to virtualize one DC and have one physical DC? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Only thing I can't figure out is if I need a SIM in the phone or not. Some people say they weren't able to activate it without a SIM, but once it was activated the SIM could be removed. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes wifi, be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan? I think so, right. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote: Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager. My BES is a VM. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES?
Rim sells wifi only enterpise bbs but not sure about bess support Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:24:45 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Only thing I can't figure out is if I need a SIM in the phone or not. Some people say they weren't able to activate it without a SIM, but once it was activated the SIM could be removed. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? can any blackberry wifi even with 3g or cdma or edge, that includes wifi, be used with just wifi and no cellphone plan? I think so, right. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, N Parr wrote: Yes from what I understand it should work through desktop manager. My BES is a VM. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Or active via desktop manger Right?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:13:00 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? If your BES is a physical server you might just plug it in to the server for activation, I think I did this once or twice back in the day. - Original Message - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:06:20 2010 Subject: RE: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Prefer the physical keyboard. And a device they wouldn't want to play with to much. Therefore a $100 hot pink curve probably wouldn't get misplaced to easily. I've done some googling and there does seem to be issues with BES WIFI activations if you don't do it just right. -Original Message- From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? What about an itouch nice and simple and apple has deployment tools that are free and can lock down the itouch and setup email. For 200 usd you get a device that works via wifi and supports exchange --Original Message-- From: N Parr To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone use WiFi only BB's on their BES? Sent: Mar 26, 2010 2:31 PM I have a need for some internal users to have quick access to email. Can't justify a service plan so I was thinking of just getting something like an old Curve 8320 that has Wifi and activating them on my BES. Hook them up to my facility wireless and away they go. Could use an ipaq type device but I think it's simpler for them to use a BB because of familiarity, keyboard, ease of management, etc. Thanks Niles ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/
re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
In regards to having DCs virtualized. We have 15 DCs and only 2 of them are physical (PDCe and another GC). When we bring down the data center for a recovery exercise or a scheduled power outage, we need to have AD come up first since other things are authenticating against it. This makes it much quicker then waiting for the VMWare environment to come online. Another benefit is that if there is an issue with the back end storage where the VMWare LUNS reside, we have something to authenticate against until it comes back. YMMV ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Upgrading from 2003R2 to 2008R2 (or later)
+1 Well articulated arguments for physical DC(s). On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: In regards to having DCs virtualized. We have 15 DCs and only 2 of them are physical (PDCe and another GC). When we bring down the data center for a recovery exercise or a scheduled power outage, we need to have AD come up first since other things are authenticating against it. This makes it much quicker then waiting for the VMWare environment to come online. Another benefit is that if there is an issue with the back end storage where the VMWare LUNS reside, we have something to authenticate against until it comes back. YMMV ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: [OT]: Script Editors
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote: Slightly OT, but those of you who write scripts, whats your preferred editor? Notepad++. ;-) ... they both do the job, but looking for something with a bit more. What are you looking for that you don't have now? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: How would you go about this?
That entirely depends on your purpose, business and cost hardware issues would have. We go on a three year cycle here. Do we have boxes older for various reasons? Yes, but those are decided on a case by case basis. Support. How important to the business is it? If it's important, then it gets replaced. Period. Hardware cost is a small part of the equation. Downtime, loss of business, potential loss of access to the data and how much that would cost the business, etc. Tactical. Is their new hardware technology coming out soon from our HW vendor? If yes, we may delay new hardware (new HP series later this year?) so that we will get the benefit of the new technologies sooner. If you can stretch your budget and risk on hardware for 5 years and all the associated OS and associated application updates associated with it, then that's is perfectly alright. But if you business would have a negative cost then there is nothing wrong with updating in a timely manner. We have much older systems out there. We find them irritating and darn near impossible to get sign off on upgrading them 'because it's working fine' when no, not really, it strains the support people more when things go wrong on them. Again, this is all down to your business requirements, not 'replacing hardware sooner then 5 years is just wrong'. Steven Peck On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Terry Dickson te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote: I pretty much agree, we replace after three years, then we have always re-tasked the systems and used them for other projects for at least 5 years. We have some that are whitebox products that are over 7 years and still running. If we do not have a production use for them we move them into a test network and still utilize them there. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How would you go about this? I don’t understand this mentality. I would expect to get 3 years from some white box generic desktop built with on-sale, B-grade components. With all the discussions on the list lately for getting matching brand hard drives, integrated management and other things than imply quality of build, this is (IIRC) the second comment I’ve read in the last few months where someone has difficulty with the concept of tech making it 5 years. If you’re buying factory gear from hard drive to power cord you’re paying premium top dollar. That money should mean something besides just the service contract. Specific performance requirements and current economic conditions aside, if you can’t get at least 5 years out of your servers before replacement, then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: How would you go about this? You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations and servers. Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all
http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7 It's a WSJ article, so at least there's no skin or ink. Best quote from the article? If that thing back there blows, God help us all for miles. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all
Oops. This is SFW, but it did go to the wrong list. I apologize for the error. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7 It's a WSJ article, so at least there's no skin or ink. Best quote from the article? If that thing back there blows, God help us all for miles. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OK, now I've REALLY, REALLY seen it all
On 26 Mar 2010 at 21:02, Richard Stovall wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ycg23z7 FWIW, out of respect for my readers I _*always*_ post tinyurl links with preview.tinyurl.com as too many spammers use shortened links to direct people places they shouldn't be going. If I were to click that link, I'd actually copy it and change it to use the preview page first. It's one reason I use tinyurl over is.gd and other link-shorteners. While is.gd also supports a preview option, the option is enabled by appending - to the link. That this is a safe preview link isn't obvious to non-techies the way preview.tinyurl.com is. IMHO, YMMV. Happy Friday, POETS! [*] Angus [*] P*ss On Everything, Tomorrow's Saturday! -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
