Re: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 16 Jul 2010 at 9:42, Mike Gill  wrote:

> Or just use these links instead:
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
> http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi
> 
> That will always get you the current version and in MSI format without the
> addons/toolbars/scanners. If you want to be legit, then you should go to
> www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ and agree to the licensing for that,
> but those are the links you will get. 

I think I already did that, and AFAIR I had to agree not to give those links 
out ;-)

FWIW those 301-permanently-moved redirect to these file locations:
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_10_active_x.msi
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/licensing/win/install_flash_player_10_plugin.msi

> The "pl" version is for browsers other than IE. I haven't messed with the
> EXE's in years. 

FWIW the .EXEs I downloaded this last go-around installed totally silently 
without offering or installing toolbars when run with the "/install" command-
line option:

start \\Server\install\Adobe\install_flash_player_ax.exe /install
start \\Server\install\Adobe\install_flash_player.exe /install

Even when run interactively they didn't offer any toolbars.  It appears that 
maybe Adobe has quit bundling toolbars with Flash.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
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1-520-290-5038
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RE: Whining... (mysql)

[Ken Schaefer]

The low-end SKUs for SQL Server are free now (both for use, and to redistribute 
with applications). MSDE's been that way for years...

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] 
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2010 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining... (mysql)

On that note, I'm always amazed that so much software still uses SQL server for 
no apparent reason, forcing companies to shell out 000s over the cost of 
whatever software you are buying...when they could just use MySQL instead, save 
the client loads of initial outlay, resources, etc

We run loads of IT management software and the amount of software we use that 
runs on SQL Server and yet doesn’t use 1/10th of the SQL feature set is amazing.


--
G2 Support
Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management

Email:  oliver.marsh...@g2support.com
Web:http://www.g2support.com



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: 15 July 2010 21:02
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining...

... and this is why I wonder why people don't develop for alternative SQL 
solutions ... (MySQL anyone?)

But, I am not a programmer. Nor do I know or understand the real differences 
between different flavors of SQL servers. To me, a database is a database. Data 
goes in, and you pull data out.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Cameron Cooper
[mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 15 Jul 2010
12:46:01 -0700
Subject: RE: Whining...


> Here ya on this one... we are looking to update our DB servers 
> (hardware and
> software)
>
> - hardware - roughly $12,000 for two new servers
> - software - SQL 2008 R2 enterprise - roughly $27,000 per processor 
> (we need unlimited CALs for our clients) x 4 processors in the new 
> servers = boss and ceo that pucker
>
> I just work here.
>
> _
> Cameron Cooper
> Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc
> Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | 
> www.aurico.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
> Have you thought about looking at a plan other than buying retail?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> br...@briandesmond.com
>
> c   – 312.731.3132
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Whining...
>
> We got a quote last week from Provantage for a single-proc license 
> version of SQL Server 2008.
>
> I put in the PR on Tuesday, my purchasing person gets the PO to 
> Provantage yesterday, and they kick it back today saying it's not available 
> anymore.
>
> They're only selling R2, which, for this version, is $2000.00 more.
>
> Ouch.
>
> Worse, we're not under any kind of Open License agreement at the 
> moment, nor an EA, so we're buying box retail.
>
> We're checking with another vendor to see if they have it in stock.
>
> They probably don't, so I'll have to go to our COO to ask him to pony 
> up for the new version, and I'm sure he's not going to be happy.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Just venting.
>
> Don't mind me...
>
> Kurt


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~   ~

R: Server raid config ponderings

[HELP_PC]

I don't know about Dell , but HP has a 512MB cache with battery for
their raid cards that enable write caching improving a lot performance
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Inviato: sabato 17 luglio 2010 0.06
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Server raid config ponderings


Using a Dell 2950 with a RAID 1 for the 2008 system and RAID 5 (4 or 5
drives) total space about 1TB.  It had 2 Quad core processors and 32GB
of RAM.  I had the system up running only Hyper-V and 6 VMs all on the
RAID 5 with few issues attributable to hardware.  The VMs were AV, SQL,
AD, IIS/Print/FTP, File type of machines.  Backups were done using
native 2008 image based backup to a 1TB USB drive.
 
I would think that you should be fine with the RAID 5.  I would put the
system on a separate RAID 1 60GB drive if it was me.  I hate putting
VM's on the same drive as the OS.  It works but I still hate it.
 
Jon


On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Ben N  wrote:


I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad
core with 48GB RAM) 

The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be
old physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use.
There will be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP
servers, but not too much traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange
on it with only 2 active mailboxes. stuff like that.

Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all
drives, but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a
spare ahead of time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking
of Raid 5 with a hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write
bottleneck.
I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of
my guests.

Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5
with SAS drives?

-BenN

 



 






 


 


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~   ~

RE: NAS with Active Directory

[Phil Brutsche]

+1 on the QNAP

They are nifty little boxes.

Jason Morris  previously uttered:

I absolutely love my QNAP. You buy the chassis and install your own  
drives to make it go. I have a 4 slot unit with 3 x 1.5tb Drives. (  
I should have filled it at first for the cost but it was a demo unit.)


Jason


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NAS with Active Directory

Need recommendations for a decent NAS device with 2-5TB storage  
that'll tie in with Active Directory.  We've tried a couple from  
LaCie and WD but each has had issues like lock-ups and dropping off  
the network.


Most of the SoHo devices we've looked at get lousy reviews.

Oh... and it needs to be in the $1000-1200 range

Suggestions?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
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RE: Friday diversion

[Crawford, Scott]

It's essentially the major step in "jail-breaking" it.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

And just what, pray tell, did this secret code give you?

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/16/2010 1:17 PM >>>
Yeah, B, A, Start or B, A, Select, Start for two players.

Interestingly, typing upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart into a Palm Pre 
puts it into developer mode.

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

I've seen references to both. Was the one I listed for two players?

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Phillip Partipilo 
mailto:p...@psnet.com>> wrote:
Konami... but it was B, A, I thought?


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Let's see here.. games I had/played:

Summer Games
Karataka
Commando
Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
Archon
Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
Winter Games
Labyrinth
1942
Little Computer People
Arkanoid
Hacker
Knockout!
Pitstop
Pitfall
EA Pinball
Afterburner
Huey Simulator
Pacman
Rambo
Monster Truck 3D
Donkey Kong
Defender
Test Drive
Impossible Mission
Leaderboard
Airborne Ranger
Silent Service
Spy vs Spy
Qbert
Marble Madness
Frankie goes to Hollywood
Way of the Exploding Fist

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were 
easily defeated...

-sc


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer 
> [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0 
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare 
> [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh 
> > [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> > wrote:

> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a r

Re: Whining...

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
>> This imposed certain constraints (sharp horizontal color changes had 
>> artifacts,
>> and moving sprites are practically impossible), but it gave the machine a 
>> 4096
>> color display on much cheaper hardware.
>
> Sprites were limited. I can't specifically remember, but it may have been to 
> 32 or 64 colors.

  I am just summarizing the Wikipedia article (never really got into
the Amiga much, though I was aware of them and thought some of the
tech was impressive), so this may be inaccurate, but the issue
identified with sprites in the HAM mode was that because each pixel is
defined in terms of a difference vs the previous pixel, you can't just
blit a bunch of pixels across the screen because it will artifact like
crazy at the edges.  It said the other video modes (which used a
traditional indexed palette) did not have that issue.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Michael B. Smith]

Sorry, it was two bit planes with two bitmaps for a total of 16 colors.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining...

Sprites were limited. I can't specifically remember, but it may have been to 32 
or 64 colors.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify) 
> graphics mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was 
> huge.

  Never heard of it.  Looked it up.[1]  Wow, what a brilliant hack.
Briefly, the video generator was capable of 12-bit color, but the system didn't 
have the memory bandwidth that would have been needed to back a full color 
image.  So each pixel is divided into R, G, B components, and each pixel is 
defined in terms of the difference of
*one* of those components vs the previous pixel.  This imposed certain 
constraints (sharp horizontal color changes had artifacts, and moving sprites 
are practically impossible), but it gave the machine a 4096 color display on 
much cheaper hardware.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold-And-Modify

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~


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~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Kurt Buff]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 14:58, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> And then came the video toaster, which was often used to replace very
>> expensive chiron machines.
>
>  What's a chiron machine?
>
>> Babylon 5, Max Headroom, and others, used it for special effects.
>
>  IIRC, the original BattleTech arcade VR video game system (the one
> where you sit in a full-scale simulated cockpit of an imaginary mecha)
> used an Amiga to power the graphics for each node, with some kind of
> proprietary interconnect or network.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTech_Centers
>
> -- Ben

My bad - they were Chyrons. Machines to do graphics overlays for videos.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_third

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Michael B. Smith]

Sprites were limited. I can't specifically remember, but it may have been to 32 
or 64 colors.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify) 
> graphics mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was 
> huge.

  Never heard of it.  Looked it up.[1]  Wow, what a brilliant hack.
Briefly, the video generator was capable of 12-bit color, but the system didn't 
have the memory bandwidth that would have been needed to back a full color 
image.  So each pixel is divided into R, G, B components, and each pixel is 
defined in terms of the difference of
*one* of those components vs the previous pixel.  This imposed certain 
constraints (sharp horizontal color changes had artifacts, and moving sprites 
are practically impossible), but it gave the machine a 4096 color display on 
much cheaper hardware.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold-And-Modify

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Sean Martin]

For Contra on the NES, it gave you something like 30 lives.

- Sean

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> And just what, pray tell, did this secret code give you?
>
> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/16/2010 1:17 PM >>>
> Yeah, B, A, Start or B, A, Select, Start for two players.
>
> Interestingly, typing upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart into a Palm Pre
> puts it into developer mode.
>
> From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:31 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
>
> I've seen references to both. Was the one I listed for two players?
>
> - Sean
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Phillip Partipilo  p...@psnet.com>> wrote:
> Konami... but it was B, A, I thought?
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
> From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com seanmarti...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
>
> Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start
>
> - Sean
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens  stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
>  On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare  > wrote:
> Let's see here.. games I had/played:
>
> Summer Games
> Karataka
> Commando
> Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
> Archon
> Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
> Winter Games
> Labyrinth
> 1942
> Little Computer People
> Arkanoid
> Hacker
> Knockout!
> Pitstop
> Pitfall
> EA Pinball
> Afterburner
> Huey Simulator
> Pacman
> Rambo
> Monster Truck 3D
> Donkey Kong
> Defender
> Test Drive
> Impossible Mission
> Leaderboard
> Airborne Ranger
> Silent Service
> Spy vs Spy
> Qbert
> Marble Madness
> Frankie goes to Hollywood
> Way of the Exploding Fist
>
> And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
> easily defeated...
>
> -sc
>
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
>
> Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare  > wrote:
> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
> (from
> > cassette tape mind you):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > Devon, PA 19333
> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com scaes...@caesare.com>]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com k...@colonialsavings.com>]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
> a
> > slide rule.
> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
> an
> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> > ran
> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > > The slide rule was faster.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com mailvor...@gmail.com>]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
>  > mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> > >
> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> > alone the
> > > ads.
> > >
> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
> the
> > day.
> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security t

Re: Server raid config ponderings

[Jon Harris]

Using a Dell 2950 with a RAID 1 for the 2008 system and RAID 5 (4 or 5
drives) total space about 1TB.  It had 2 Quad core processors and 32GB of
RAM.  I had the system up running only Hyper-V and 6 VMs all on the RAID 5
with few issues attributable to hardware.  The VMs were AV, SQL, AD,
IIS/Print/FTP, File type of machines.  Backups were done using native 2008
image based backup to a 1TB USB drive.

I would think that you should be fine with the RAID 5.  I would put the
system on a separate RAID 1 60GB drive if it was me.  I hate putting VM's on
the same drive as the OS.  It works but I still hate it.

Jon

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Ben N  wrote:

> I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad
> core with 48GB RAM)
>
> The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be old
> physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use. There
> will be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP servers, but not
> too much traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange on it with only 2
> active mailboxes. stuff like that.
>
> Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all
> drives, but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a
> spare ahead of time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking of
> Raid 5 with a hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write
> bottleneck.
> I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of my
> guests.
>
> Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5 with
> SAS drives?
>
> -BenN
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Server raid config ponderings

[Sean Martin]

How much space do you need? Preferably you'd configure a RAID 1 for the OS,
a hot spare, which would leave you with a 7 Drive RAID 5 config, or 1.8TB of
raw space (usable space will be slightly lower, probably around
260-270GB/drive).

- Sean

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Ben N  wrote:

> I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad
> core with 48GB RAM)
>
> The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be old
> physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use. There
> will be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP servers, but not
> too much traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange on it with only 2
> active mailboxes. stuff like that.
>
> Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all
> drives, but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a
> spare ahead of time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking of
> Raid 5 with a hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write
> bottleneck.
> I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of my
> guests.
>
> Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5 with
> SAS drives?
>
> -BenN
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Server raid config ponderings

[Joseph L. Casale]

I would do R10 with 2 groups of 4 and leave 2 drives for hotspares if needed.
R5 sucks for this application...

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server raid config ponderings

I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad core 
with 48GB RAM)

The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be old 
physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use. There will 
be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP servers, but not too much 
traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange on it with only 2 active 
mailboxes. stuff like that.

Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all drives, 
but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a spare ahead of 
time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking of Raid 5 with a 
hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write bottleneck.
I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of my 
guests.

Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5 with SAS 
drives?

-BenN





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Server raid config ponderings

[Brian Desmond]

RAID10 will get you fantastic perf. RAID5 write perf across that many drives is 
going to be a bit rough.

I'd just bite the bullet on the hot spare, personally. Dell's going to get you 
the new drive in 4-12 hours depending on your contract, right?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server raid config ponderings

I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad core 
with 48GB RAM)

The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be old 
physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use. There will 
be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP servers, but not too much 
traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange on it with only 2 active 
mailboxes. stuff like that.

Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all drives, 
but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a spare ahead of 
time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking of Raid 5 with a 
hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write bottleneck.
I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of my 
guests.

Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5 with SAS 
drives?

-BenN





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> And then came the video toaster, which was often used to replace very
> expensive chiron machines.

  What's a chiron machine?

> Babylon 5, Max Headroom, and others, used it for special effects.

  IIRC, the original BattleTech arcade VR video game system (the one
where you sit in a full-scale simulated cockpit of an imaginary mecha)
used an Amiga to power the graphics for each node, with some kind of
proprietary interconnect or network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTech_Centers

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Joseph Heaton]

And just what, pray tell, did this secret code give you?

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/16/2010 1:17 PM >>>
Yeah, B, A, Start or B, A, Select, Start for two players.

Interestingly, typing upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart into a Palm Pre 
puts it into developer mode.

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

I've seen references to both. Was the one I listed for two players?

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Phillip Partipilo 
mailto:p...@psnet.com>> wrote:
Konami... but it was B, A, I thought?


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Let's see here.. games I had/played:

Summer Games
Karataka
Commando
Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
Archon
Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
Winter Games
Labyrinth
1942
Little Computer People
Arkanoid
Hacker
Knockout!
Pitstop
Pitfall
EA Pinball
Afterburner
Huey Simulator
Pacman
Rambo
Monster Truck 3D
Donkey Kong
Defender
Test Drive
Impossible Mission
Leaderboard
Airborne Ranger
Silent Service
Spy vs Spy
Qbert
Marble Madness
Frankie goes to Hollywood
Way of the Exploding Fist

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were 
easily defeated...

-sc


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer 
> [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0 
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare 
> [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh 
> > [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> > wrote:

> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify) graphics
> mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was huge.

  Never heard of it.  Looked it up.[1]  Wow, what a brilliant hack.
Briefly, the video generator was capable of 12-bit color, but the
system didn't have the memory bandwidth that would have been needed to
back a full color image.  So each pixel is divided into R, G, B
components, and each pixel is defined in terms of the difference of
*one* of those components vs the previous pixel.  This imposed certain
constraints (sharp horizontal color changes had artifacts, and moving
sprites are practically impossible), but it gave the machine a 4096
color display on much cheaper hardware.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold-And-Modify

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Server raid config ponderings

[Ben N]

I have a new Dell R710, with 10 (2.5inch) x 300GB SAS drives. (dual quad
core with 48GB RAM)

The Hyper-V guests i'll be putting on here are really going to just be old
physical servers that i want to retire. So not much production use. There
will be a few important servers, like some Win2k3 IIS SMTP servers, but not
too much traffic. Also a test domain that has Exchange on it with only 2
active mailboxes. stuff like that.

Hard Drive config? I was thinking of doing Raid 10 initially with all
drives, but i'd be without a hot spare. Not liking the idea of getting a
spare ahead of time or waiting for one if i didn't. I was then thinking of
Raid 5 with a hotspare.. But i am nervous about the possible write
bottleneck.
I just want to get as much space as i can, but not suffer the wrath of my
guests.

Has anyone had a similar config like this with Hyper-V and done Raid 5 with
SAS drives?

-BenN

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Kurt Buff]

Yep.

Where would you get all of your tech support from if it went away?

Heh.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 14:09, Jeff Cain  wrote:
> Yes, the list is not going anywhere. J
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jeff Cain – supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com
>
> Technical Support Analyst
>
>
>
> Sunbelt Software, part of the GFI Software family
>
> www.sunbeltsoftware.com
>
> Tel: 1-877-757-4094
>
> Fax: +1 727-562-3402
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> Save me the trouble of digging back…
>
>
>
> 1 quick question, will this list remain alive?
>
>
>
> Sa,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> LOL!  I haven’t been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just getting
> back online.
>
>
>
> What else did I miss!!
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
>
> Kidding...apparently you've not been around...
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

[OT] Friday Funny

[Michael B. Smith]

This one is dedicated to Shooky...



Regards,



Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com





The day finally arrived.   Forrest Gump dies and goes to Heaven.



He is at the Pearly Gates, met by St. Peter himself.  However, the gates are 
closed, and Forrest approaches the gatekeeper. St. Peter said, 'Well, Forrest, 
it is certainly good to see you.   We have heard a lot about you.  I must  tell 
you, though, that the place is filling up fast, and we have been administering 
an entrance examination for everyone.  The test is short, but you have to pass 
it before you can get into Heaven.'



Forrest responds, 'It sure is good to be here, St. Peter, sir.   But nobody 
ever told me about any entrance  exam.  I sure hope the test ain't too hard.  
Life was a big enough test as it was.'



St. Peter continued, 'Yes, I know, Forrest, but the test is only three 
questions:



First: What two days of the week begin with the letter T?

Second: How many seconds are there in a year?

Third: What is God's first name?'



Forrest leaves to think the questions  over.  He returns the next day and sees 
St. Peter, who waves him up, and says, 'Now that you have had a chance to think 
the questions over, tell me your answers.'



Forrest replied, 'Well, the  first one -- which two days in the week begins 
with the letter 'T'? Shucks, that one is easy.   That would be Today and 
Tomorrow.'



The Saint's eyes opened wide and he exclaimed, 'Forrest, that is not what I was 
thinking, but you do have a point, and I guess I did not specify, so I will 
give you credit for that answer. How about the next one?' asked St. Peter.  
'How many seconds are in a year?'



'Now that one is harder,' replied Forrest, 'but I thunk and thunk about that, 
and I guess the only answer can be twelve.'



Astounded, St. Peter said, 'Twelve?  Twelve?  Forrest, how in Heaven's name 
could you come up with twelve seconds in a year?'



Forrest replied, 'Shucks, there's got to be twelve: January 2nd, February 2nd, 
March 2nd... '



'Hold it,' interrupts St. Peter.   'I see where you are going with this, and I 
see your point, though that was not quite what I had in mindbut I will have 
to give  you credit for that one, too.  Let us go on with the third and final 
question.



'Can you tell me God's first name'?'



'Sure,' Forrest replied, 'it's Andy.'



'Andy?' exclaimed an exasperated and frustrated St Peter.  'OK, I can 
understand how you came up with your answers to my first two questions, but 
just how in the world did you come up with the name Andy as the first name of 
God?'



'Shucks, that was the easiest one of all,' Forrest replied.  'I learnt it from 
the song,



ANDY WALKS WITH ME,

ANDY TALKS WITH ME,

ANDY TELLS ME I AM HIS OWN.'



St. Peter opened the Pearly Gates, and said: 'Run, Forrest. Run!'



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NAS with Active Directory

[Jason Morris]

My 4 slot QNAP was under that price range and it integrated flawlessly with AD. 
Comes with 2 gige network ports and I'm running on one. Large file transfers 
are upwards of 34Mb/sec, and my lots'o' small file transfers moved almost as 
fast as a file server with DAS.

Jason

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NAS with Active Directory

I think you're asking a lot from the price range you offered.  I think your 
experience probably backs you up.

Might want to review your range and look at a DroboPro.  Buy it empty populate 
it with drive sufficient for your current needs, attach it to a server via 
iSCSI and configure as a regular drive on a server.



On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Roger Wright 
mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Need recommendations for a decent NAS device with 2-5TB storage
that'll tie in with Active Directory.  We've tried a couple from LaCie
and WD but each has had issues like lock-ups and dropping off the
network.

Most of the SoHo devices we've looked at get lousy reviews.

Oh... and it needs to be in the $1000-1200 range

Suggestions?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___

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~   ~






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Re: Whining...

[Jonathan Link]

Ahh, Babylon5.  Good memories.  Might have to dig out the DVDs...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> And then came the video toaster, which was often used to replace very
> expensive chiron machines.
>
> Babylon 5, Max Headroom, and others, used it for special effects.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 13:54, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify)
> graphics
> > mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was huge.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not too long after that, 16 bit video cards were available, then 16 bit
> plus
> > alpha … etc.etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Amiga led in the graphics wars for a very long time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Remember – back then, b&w was the typical computer screen – one bit per
> > pixel. Sixteen colors (turtle graphics) pushed that up to 4 bits per
> pixel.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4,096 colors (12 bits) plus alpha (4 more bits) equaled 2 bytes of memory
> > per pixel !! For a typical 640x480 screen, that was 615K of RAM just for
> > video! Many computers didn’t have that much RAM for main memory.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> >
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:31 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Whining...
> >
> >
> >
> > I got some promotional VHS from them that were fun to watch. One of the
> > quotes I fondly remember is “But, beware. Complex animations like these
> > require lots of memory. Sometimes more than a megabyte.”
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:26 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Whining...
> >
> >
> >
> > Indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Awesome. Amiga was some truly amazing hardware for its time, and the OS
> > remains under-appreciated IMO.
> >
> > They also had no idea what to really do to market it against the PeeCee
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:44 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> >> Subject: RE: Whining...
> >>
> >> Just like Commodore. :-(
> >>
> >> [I did significant development on the Amiga platform, including I-Net
> > 225 and
> >> a number of other commercial applications.]
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Michael B. Smith
> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
> >>
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40 PM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: Whining...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I had a chance to play with NT4.0 on a 4-CPU Alpha box back in the
> > day.
> >> > Not a lot of appas available for it wither (hence the FX!32
> >> > emulation/dynamic compile layer), but it _SCREAMED_ at the time.
> >>
> >>   Yah, the Alpha was a sweet platform.
> >>
> >>   I remember someone telling the story that their i386 program was
> > faster on
> >> an Alpha running under FX!32 emulation than it was on native i386
> > hardware.
> >>
> >>   Compaq buying DEC was a sad moment in computer history.
> >> Unsurprising that DEC failed -- their marketing was horrible, and
> > their sales
> >> practices not much better -- but still sad.
> >>
> >> -- Ben
> >>
> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >>   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NAS with Active Directory

[Jonathan Link]

I think you're asking a lot from the price range you offered.  I think your
experience probably backs you up.

Might want to review your range and look at a DroboPro.  Buy it empty
populate it with drive sufficient for your current needs, attach it to a
server via iSCSI and configure as a regular drive on a server.



On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> Need recommendations for a decent NAS device with 2-5TB storage
> that'll tie in with Active Directory.  We've tried a couple from LaCie
> and WD but each has had issues like lock-ups and dropping off the
> network.
>
> Most of the SoHo devices we've looked at get lousy reviews.
>
> Oh... and it needs to be in the $1000-1200 range
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Jeff Cain]

Yes, the list is not going anywhere. :)

Thanks,

Jeff Cain - supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com
Technical Support Analyst

Sunbelt Software, part of the GFI Software family
www.sunbeltsoftware.com
Tel: 1-877-757-4094
Fax: +1 727-562-3402

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

Save me the trouble of digging back...

1 quick question, will this list remain alive?

Sa,




From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

LOL!  I haven't been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just getting back 
online.

What else did I miss!!

Sam

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Kidding...apparently you've not been around...
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com>> wrote:
http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html

























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Kurt Buff]

And then came the video toaster, which was often used to replace very
expensive chiron machines.

Babylon 5, Max Headroom, and others, used it for special effects.

Kurt

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 13:54, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify) graphics
> mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was huge.
>
>
>
> Not too long after that, 16 bit video cards were available, then 16 bit plus
> alpha … etc.etc.
>
>
>
> Amiga led in the graphics wars for a very long time.
>
>
>
> Remember – back then, b&w was the typical computer screen – one bit per
> pixel. Sixteen colors (turtle graphics) pushed that up to 4 bits per pixel.
>
>
>
> 4,096 colors (12 bits) plus alpha (4 more bits) equaled 2 bytes of memory
> per pixel !! For a typical 640x480 screen, that was 615K of RAM just for
> video! Many computers didn’t have that much RAM for main memory.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:31 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
>
>
> I got some promotional VHS from them that were fun to watch. One of the
> quotes I fondly remember is “But, beware. Complex animations like these
> require lots of memory. Sometimes more than a megabyte.”
>
>
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
>
>
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> Awesome. Amiga was some truly amazing hardware for its time, and the OS
> remains under-appreciated IMO.
>
> They also had no idea what to really do to market it against the PeeCee
>
> -sc
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:44 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
>> Subject: RE: Whining...
>>
>> Just like Commodore. :-(
>>
>> [I did significant development on the Amiga platform, including I-Net
> 225 and
>> a number of other commercial applications.]
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Whining...
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Steven M. Caesare
> 
>> wrote:
>> > I had a chance to play with NT4.0 on a 4-CPU Alpha box back in the
> day.
>> > Not a lot of appas available for it wither (hence the FX!32
>> > emulation/dynamic compile layer), but it _SCREAMED_ at the time.
>>
>>   Yah, the Alpha was a sweet platform.
>>
>>   I remember someone telling the story that their i386 program was
> faster on
>> an Alpha running under FX!32 emulation than it was on native i386
> hardware.
>>
>>   Compaq buying DEC was a sad moment in computer history.
>> Unsurprising that DEC failed -- their marketing was horrible, and
> their sales
>> practices not much better -- but still sad.
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NAS with Active Directory

[Jason Morris]

I absolutely love my QNAP. You buy the chassis and install your own drives to 
make it go. I have a 4 slot unit with 3 x 1.5tb Drives. ( I should have filled 
it at first for the cost but it was a demo unit.)

Jason


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NAS with Active Directory

Need recommendations for a decent NAS device with 2-5TB storage that'll tie in 
with Active Directory.  We've tried a couple from LaCie and WD but each has had 
issues like lock-ups and dropping off the network.

Most of the SoHo devices we've looked at get lousy reviews.

Oh... and it needs to be in the $1000-1200 range

Suggestions?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Michael B. Smith]

When the Amiga first came out, it featured a HAM (Hold and Modify) graphics 
mode that supported 4,096 colors plus alpha. At the time, that was huge.

Not too long after that, 16 bit video cards were available, then 16 bit plus 
alpha ... etc.etc.

Amiga led in the graphics wars for a very long time.

Remember - back then, b&w was the typical computer screen - one bit per pixel. 
Sixteen colors (turtle graphics) pushed that up to 4 bits per pixel.

4,096 colors (12 bits) plus alpha (4 more bits) equaled 2 bytes of memory per 
pixel !! For a typical 640x480 screen, that was 615K of RAM just for video! 
Many computers didn't have that much RAM for main memory.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining...

I got some promotional VHS from them that were fun to watch. One of the quotes 
I fondly remember is "But, beware. Complex animations like these require lots 
of memory. Sometimes more than a megabyte."

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

Indeed.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Awesome. Amiga was some truly amazing hardware for its time, and the OS
remains under-appreciated IMO.

They also had no idea what to really do to market it against the PeeCee

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith 
> [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
> Just like Commodore. :-(
>
> [I did significant development on the Amiga platform, including I-Net
225 and
> a number of other commercial applications.]
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Steven M. Caesare
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> wrote:
> > I had a chance to play with NT4.0 on a 4-CPU Alpha box back in the
day.
> > Not a lot of appas available for it wither (hence the FX!32
> > emulation/dynamic compile layer), but it _SCREAMED_ at the time.
>
>   Yah, the Alpha was a sweet platform.
>
>   I remember someone telling the story that their i386 program was
faster on
> an Alpha running under FX!32 emulation than it was on native i386
hardware.
>
>   Compaq buying DEC was a sad moment in computer history.
> Unsurprising that DEC failed -- their marketing was horrible, and
their sales
> practices not much better -- but still sad.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

NAS with Active Directory

[Roger Wright]

Need recommendations for a decent NAS device with 2-5TB storage
that'll tie in with Active Directory.  We've tried a couple from LaCie
and WD but each has had issues like lock-ups and dropping off the
network.

Most of the SoHo devices we've looked at get lousy reviews.

Oh... and it needs to be in the $1000-1200 range

Suggestions?


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining... (mysql)

[Andrew S. Baker]

Very, very easy.

Microsoft has always been relatively developer-friendly, whether in the ease
of development (separate discussion needed for robustness of resulting code)
or the cost of development.

The bulk of Windows development costs are borne by the customers of the
apps, not the developers of said applications.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> That's an easy answer.
>
> MS-SQL is _easy_ to develop for in the Windows environment.
>
> SQL Express is free.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining... (mysql)
>
> On that note, I'm always amazed that so much software still uses SQL server
> for no apparent reason, forcing companies to shell out 000s over the cost of
> whatever software you are buying...when they could just use MySQL instead,
> save the client loads of initial outlay, resources, etc
>
> We run loads of IT management software and the amount of software we use
> that runs on SQL Server and yet doesn’t use 1/10th of the SQL feature set is
> amazing.
>
>
> --
> G2 Support
> Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management
>
> Email:  oliver.marsh...@g2support.com
> Web:http://www.g2support.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: 15 July 2010 21:02
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
> ... and this is why I wonder why people don't develop for alternative SQL
> solutions ... (MySQL anyone?)
>
> But, I am not a programmer. Nor do I know or understand the real
> differences between different flavors of SQL servers. To me, a database is a
> database. Data goes in, and you pull data out.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Cameron Cooper
> [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Jul 2010
> 12:46:01 -0700
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
>
> > Here ya on this one... we are looking to update our DB servers
> > (hardware and
> > software)
> >
> > - hardware - roughly $12,000 for two new servers
> > - software - SQL 2008 R2 enterprise - roughly $27,000 per processor
> > (we need unlimited CALs for our clients) x 4 processors in the new
> > servers = boss and ceo that pucker
> >
> > I just work here.
> >
> > _
> > Cameron Cooper
> > Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc
> > Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com |
> > www.aurico.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:33 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Whining...
> >
> > Have you thought about looking at a plan other than buying retail?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Desmond
> > br...@briandesmond.com
> >
> > c   – 312.731.3132
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:15 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Whining...
> >
> > We got a quote last week from Provantage for a single-proc license
> > version of SQL Server 2008.
> >
> > I put in the PR on Tuesday, my purchasing person gets the PO to
> > Provantage yesterday, and they kick it back today saying it's not
> available anymore.
> >
> > They're only selling R2, which, for this version, is $2000.00 more.
> >
> > Ouch.
> >
> > Worse, we're not under any kind of Open License agreement at the
> > moment, nor an EA, so we're buying box retail.
> >
> > We're checking with another vendor to see if they have it in stock.
> >
> > They probably don't, so I'll have to go to our COO to ask him to pony
> > up for the new version, and I'm sure he's not going to be happy.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > Just venting.
> >
> > Don't mind me...
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <
> http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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RE: Whining...

[Crawford, Scott]

I got some promotional VHS from them that were fun to watch. One of the quotes 
I fondly remember is "But, beware. Complex animations like these require lots 
of memory. Sometimes more than a megabyte."

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

Indeed.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Awesome. Amiga was some truly amazing hardware for its time, and the OS
remains under-appreciated IMO.

They also had no idea what to really do to market it against the PeeCee

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith 
> [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:44 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
>
> Just like Commodore. :-(
>
> [I did significant development on the Amiga platform, including I-Net
225 and
> a number of other commercial applications.]
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Steven M. Caesare
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> wrote:
> > I had a chance to play with NT4.0 on a 4-CPU Alpha box back in the
day.
> > Not a lot of appas available for it wither (hence the FX!32
> > emulation/dynamic compile layer), but it _SCREAMED_ at the time.
>
>   Yah, the Alpha was a sweet platform.
>
>   I remember someone telling the story that their i386 program was
faster on
> an Alpha running under FX!32 emulation than it was on native i386
hardware.
>
>   Compaq buying DEC was a sad moment in computer history.
> Unsurprising that DEC failed -- their marketing was horrible, and
their sales
> practices not much better -- but still sad.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Jonathan Link]

You just had the last post!

They indicated it would.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  Save me the trouble of digging back…
>
>
>
> 1 quick question, will this list remain alive?
>
>
>
> Sa,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 3:12 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> LOL!  I haven’t been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just getting
> back online.
>
>
>
> What else did I miss!!
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
>
> Kidding...apparently you've not been around...
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
>
> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Andrew S. Baker]

Indeed.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> Awesome. Amiga was some truly amazing hardware for its time, and the OS
> remains under-appreciated IMO.
>
> They also had no idea what to really do to market it against the PeeCee
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:44 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Whining...
> >
> > Just like Commodore. :-(
> >
> > [I did significant development on the Amiga platform, including I-Net
> 225 and
> > a number of other commercial applications.]
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:40 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Whining...
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Steven M. Caesare
> 
> > wrote:
> > > I had a chance to play with NT4.0 on a 4-CPU Alpha box back in the
> day.
> > > Not a lot of appas available for it wither (hence the FX!32
> > > emulation/dynamic compile layer), but it _SCREAMED_ at the time.
> >
> >   Yah, the Alpha was a sweet platform.
> >
> >   I remember someone telling the story that their i386 program was
> faster on
> > an Alpha running under FX!32 emulation than it was on native i386
> hardware.
> >
> >   Compaq buying DEC was a sad moment in computer history.
> > Unsurprising that DEC failed -- their marketing was horrible, and
> their sales
> > practices not much better -- but still sad.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Sam Cayze]

Save me the trouble of digging back...

 

1 quick question, will this list remain alive?

 

Sa,

 

 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

 

LOL!  I haven't been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just
getting back online.

 

What else did I miss!!   

 

Sam

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

 

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Kidding...apparently you've not been around...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.  

 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-so
ftware.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

[Andy Shook]

Purrfect. That's the cat's meow of licensing documents.

Shook

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

PURr is your friend.

Learn it. Love it. Live it.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/product-licensing.aspx

I didn't look it up for you, but it'll be in there. :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

SharePoint (MOSS assumed at this time) 2010 Enterprise, Internet Connector and 
Search.  Production is well, production[1] but can I stand up a "warm" DR site 
in a receive changes only mode and NOT have to license the DR site.  You can do 
this with SQL but I need to confirm SPS is the same[2].  Links[3] are helpful, 
as I'm searching [4] now as well.

Apologies for the serious question on a Friday.

Shook

[1] Thank you, Captain Obvious
[2] Little. Yellow. Different.
[3]Links.Johnsonville brats on the grill tomorrow...Hmm.
[4] How bad would an IT gig suck without Google?










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Richard Stovall]

You've been on your cow for 15 days?

That's totally cool.  Bull rider in your spare time?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> LOL!  I haven’t been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just getting
> back online.
>
>
>
> What else did I miss!!
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software
>
>
>
> Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
>
> Kidding...apparently you've not been around...
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
>
> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html
>
>
>
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>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Crawford, Scott]

Yeah, B, A, Start or B, A, Select, Start for two players.

Interestingly, typing upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart into a Palm Pre 
puts it into developer mode.

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

I've seen references to both. Was the one I listed for two players?

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Phillip Partipilo 
mailto:p...@psnet.com>> wrote:
Konami... but it was B, A, I thought?


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Let's see here.. games I had/played:

Summer Games
Karataka
Commando
Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
Archon
Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
Winter Games
Labyrinth
1942
Little Computer People
Arkanoid
Hacker
Knockout!
Pitstop
Pitfall
EA Pinball
Afterburner
Huey Simulator
Pacman
Rambo
Monster Truck 3D
Donkey Kong
Defender
Test Drive
Impossible Mission
Leaderboard
Airborne Ranger
Silent Service
Spy vs Spy
Qbert
Marble Madness
Frankie goes to Hollywood
Way of the Exploding Fist

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were 
easily defeated...

-sc


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer 
> [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare 
> [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh 
> > [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> > wrote:

> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~





























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Sam Cayze]

LOL!  I haven't been around!  Been on vaca since the 1st :)  Just
getting back online.

 

What else did I miss!!   

 

Sam

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

 

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Kidding...apparently you've not been around...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.  

 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-so
ftware.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Jacob]

Same here. B, A

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

Konami. but it was B, A, I thought?

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

 

- Sean

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
wrote:

Let's see here.. games I had/played:

 

Summer Games

Karataka

Commando

Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)

Archon

Raid over Moscow (awesome!)

Winter Games

Labyrinth

1942

Little Computer People

Arkanoid

Hacker

Knockout!

Pitstop

Pitfall

EA Pinball

Afterburner

Huey Simulator

Pacman

Rambo

Monster Truck 3D

Donkey Kong

Defender

Test Drive

Impossible Mission

Leaderboard

Airborne Ranger

Silent Service

Spy vs Spy

Qbert

Marble Madness

Frankie goes to Hollywood

Way of the Exploding Fist

 

And others. needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
easily defeated.

 

-sc

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
wrote:

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>

> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-

> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]

> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>

> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-

> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >

> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-

> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >

> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 

> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

[Michael B. Smith]

PURr is your friend.

Learn it. Love it. Live it.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/product-licensing.aspx

I didn't look it up for you, but it'll be in there. :-P

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

SharePoint (MOSS assumed at this time) 2010 Enterprise, Internet Connector and 
Search.  Production is well, production[1] but can I stand up a "warm" DR site 
in a receive changes only mode and NOT have to license the DR site.  You can do 
this with SQL but I need to confirm SPS is the same[2].  Links[3] are helpful, 
as I'm searching [4] now as well.

Apologies for the serious question on a Friday.

Shook

[1] Thank you, Captain Obvious
[2] Little. Yellow. Different.
[3]Links.Johnsonville brats on the grill tomorrow...Hmm.
[4] How bad would an IT gig suck without Google?






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Joseph L. Casale
 wrote:
>> What would be really nice is links like that for Acrobat Reader.
>
> You apply for distro rights [1], they email you a link.

  I seem to recall that, when I did that for Acrobat Reader long ago,
the link they sent was version-specific, unlike the Flash Player
links.

> Reader is packaged like sh!t, updates are msi patches and they are always
> messing with the stupid thing so that every version is an exercise in
> customization.

  That has been my experience as well.

> I've never found a better reader than Adobe (fmpov) which is a shame, I
> wish pdf's would just die so someone could make a new format with a good
> reader ...

  PDF used to be decent.  It started out as what was basically a
stripped-down PostScript, and with a way to package font resources in
the same file.  PostScript is a powerful language (I've seen at least
one web server implemented in PostScript), but you don't really want
that kind of power in an untrusted document.  So Adobe originally
restricted it to just the "safe" stuff.

  But Adobe kept "enhancing" PDF in order to justify their upgrade
treadmill.  Why buy a new version every other year if there aren't any
new features?  It's now become ridiculously over-complicated and
bloated.  Adobe's addition of JavaScript is especially ironic, given
the original design intent of *prevent* that very kind of "live"
document.

  Morons.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html

  Darth Vader?  Luke's father?!  No way!!

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Jonathan Link]

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Kidding...apparently you've not been around...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Sharepoint licensing in a DR play

[Andy Shook]

SharePoint (MOSS assumed at this time) 2010 Enterprise, Internet Connector and 
Search.  Production is well, production[1] but can I stand up a "warm" DR site 
in a receive changes only mode and NOT have to license the DR site.  You can do 
this with SQL but I need to confirm SPS is the same[2].  Links[3] are helpful, 
as I'm searching [4] now as well.

Apologies for the serious question on a Friday.

Shook

[1] Thank you, Captain Obvious
[2] Little. Yellow. Different.
[3]Links.Johnsonville brats on the grill tomorrow...Hmm.
[4] How bad would an IT gig suck without Google?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[John Leto]

Welcome to Tuesday! Haha 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

 

Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.  

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-so
ftware.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whoa! GFI Software acquires Sunbelt Software

[Steve Ens]

Sam, you been sleeping?  LOL.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>
> http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/gfi-software-acquires-sunbelt-software.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Sean Martin]

I've seen references to both. Was the one I listed for two players?

- Sean

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Phillip Partipilo  wrote:

>  Konami… but it was B, A, I thought?
>
>
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
>
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
>
> Jupiter, Florida
>
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start
>
>
>
> - Sean
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
> I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> Let’s see here.. games I had/played:
>
>
>
> Summer Games
>
> Karataka
>
> Commando
>
> Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
>
> Archon
>
> Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
>
> Winter Games
>
> Labyrinth
>
> 1942
>
> Little Computer People
>
> Arkanoid
>
> Hacker
>
> Knockout!
>
> Pitstop
>
> Pitfall
>
> EA Pinball
>
> Afterburner
>
> Huey Simulator
>
> Pacman
>
> Rambo
>
> Monster Truck 3D
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Defender
>
> Test Drive
>
> Impossible Mission
>
> Leaderboard
>
> Airborne Ranger
>
> Silent Service
>
> Spy vs Spy
>
> Qbert
>
> Marble Madness
>
> Frankie goes to Hollywood
>
> Way of the Exploding Fist
>
>
>
> And others… needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
> easily defeated…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
>
> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
> (from
> > cassette tape mind you):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > Devon, PA 19333
> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
>
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
>
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
>
> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
>
> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> > >
>
> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
> a
> > slide rule.
> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
> an
> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> > ran
> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > > The slide rule was faster.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
>
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> > >
>
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> > >
> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> > alone the
> > > ads.
> > >
> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
> the
> > day.
> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Dang I'm old. I remember practically all of these !!!

Warm regards,

Stu


From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Friday diversion

Man, I remember a bunch of these...

http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-that-will-blow-your-processor/

-sc





...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Kim Longenbaugh]

No, sorry, they didn't have cameras then either.  However, I still have
my slide rule and I'll try to remember to take a picture.

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Pics?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

No, those weren't invented yet.  But the snakes still walked upright...

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Did you have to ride a dinosaur to school when a kid?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.  We had a computer science class featuring a teletype
terminal with an acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local
college.  It ran Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape
created/read by an attachment on the teletype terminal.
The slide rule was faster.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone
the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Cameron Cooper]

Pics?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

No, those weren't invented yet.  But the snakes still walked upright...

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Did you have to ride a dinosaur to school when a kid?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.  We had a computer science class featuring a teletype
terminal with an acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local
college.  It ran Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape
created/read by an attachment on the teletype terminal.
The slide rule was faster.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone
the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Kim Longenbaugh]

No, those weren't invented yet.  But the snakes still walked upright...

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Did you have to ride a dinosaur to school when a kid?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.  We had a computer science class featuring a teletype
terminal with an acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local
college.  It ran Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape
created/read by an attachment on the teletype terminal.
The slide rule was faster.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone
the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[RichardMcClary]

Again, my "toothpaste bonus" package had a backgammon game...

One fateful afternoon in a game, I was getting hit a lot.  I decided to 
try a "back game".  The machine offered to double.  I would accept and 
offer back.  I had the cube all the way up to 64, and I had my "table" all 
blocked up.  Then I made a few hits...

I backgammoned the system (256 points, I believe?).  The screen went 
blank.  That game program refused ever to load again...

Jay Dale  wrote on 07/16/2010 12:14:44 PM:

> OMG I had one of those too!
> 
> Jay
> 
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:53 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> Here it is attached to the computer...
> 
> This looks like exactly what I had, sans the spiffy audio cassette 
> drive I had to supply. I built mine from a kit.
> 
> You can see the BASIC keywords and the graphic shapes we were 
> talking about on the ?keyboard? too.
> 
> http://www.epromfoundry.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ts1000.JPG
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:49 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape,
> larger then the Sinclair itself?  It?s been a real long time since 
> I?ve touched one of those things, but I really remember how archaic 
> it was, playing around with it at the Boys&Girls club (some form of 
> after-school care, grew up in a single working parent household), 
> even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time J
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
> 
> 
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key orsome 
such.
> 
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho?
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 
AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these? 
> > 
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> > 
> > -sc 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Paul Gordon]

I once remember seeing a cartoon that parodied this "keyboard". - showed it
having just one massive key in the middle with *every*
letter/keyword/graphic on it, surrounded by hundreds of little "shift" keys.
J I never  had one myself, I was an Atari man back then - 800XL (proper
keys), still got it now.

 

Paul G.

 

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: 16 July 2010 17:52
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 


Looking through the magazines, I remember seeing such large modules.
However, the Sinclair version was pretty small - about the size of (tax your
memory again!) 3 DATs stacked. 

Phillip Partipilo  wrote on 07/16/2010 11:48:48 AM:

> Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape,
> larger then the Sinclair itself?  It's been a real long time since 
> I've touched one of those things, but I really remember how archaic 
> it was, playing around with it at the Boys&Girls club (some form of 
> after-school care, grew up in a single working parent household), 
> even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time J 
>   
>   
> Phillip Partipilo 
> Parametric Solutions Inc. 
> Jupiter, Florida 
> (561) 747-6107 
>   
>   
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion 
>   
> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key orsome
such. 
>   
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho' 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion 
>   
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these. 
> >   
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> >   
> > -sc 
> >   
> >   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Joseph L. Casale]

>  What would be really nice is links like that for Acrobat Reader.

You apply for distro rights [1], they email you a link.
Reader is packaged like sh!t, updates are msi patches and they are always
messing with the stupid thing so that every version is an exercise in
customization.

I've never found a better reader than Adobe (fmpov) which is a shame, I
wish pdf's would just die so someone could make a new format with a good
reader:) Clearly Adobe cant and no one else has bothered.

[1] http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/rdr_distribution1.html


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Mike Gill  wrote:
> Or just use these links instead:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
> http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi

  What would be really nice is links like that for Acrobat Reader.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Phillip Partipilo]

Konami... but it was B, A, I thought?


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

- Sean
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Let's see here.. games I had/played:

Summer Games
Karataka
Commando
Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
Archon
Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
Winter Games
Labyrinth
1942
Little Computer People
Arkanoid
Hacker
Knockout!
Pitstop
Pitfall
EA Pinball
Afterburner
Huey Simulator
Pacman
Rambo
Monster Truck 3D
Donkey Kong
Defender
Test Drive
Impossible Mission
Leaderboard
Airborne Ranger
Silent Service
Spy vs Spy
Qbert
Marble Madness
Frankie goes to Hollywood
Way of the Exploding Fist

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were 
easily defeated...

-sc


From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer 
> [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare 
> [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh 
> > [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Jay Dale]

OMG I had one of those too!

Jay

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Here it is attached to the computer...

This looks like exactly what I had, sans the spiffy audio cassette drive I had 
to supply. I built mine from a kit.

You can see the BASIC keywords and the graphic shapes we were talking about on 
the "keyboard" too.

http://www.epromfoundry.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ts1000.JPG

-sc

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape, larger 
then the Sinclair itself?  It's been a real long time since I've touched one of 
those things, but I really remember how archaic it was, playing around with it 
at the Boys&Girls club (some form of after-school care, grew up in a single 
working parent household), even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time :)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or either the BASIC 
function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 could be invoked by some 
keypress-combination with a function key or some such.

The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber band or 
tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho'

-sc

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with the 
purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste-

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on the 
keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and pushed 
the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours playing with 
this...

"Steven M. Caesare" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote 
on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these...
>
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/
>
> -sc
>
>

















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Sean Martin]

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, Select, Start

- Sean

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.
>
>   On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
> scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:
>
>>Let’s see here.. games I had/played:
>>
>>
>>
>> Summer Games
>>
>> Karataka
>>
>> Commando
>>
>> Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
>>
>> Archon
>>
>> Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
>>
>> Winter Games
>>
>> Labyrinth
>>
>> 1942
>>
>> Little Computer People
>>
>> Arkanoid
>>
>> Hacker
>>
>> Knockout!
>>
>> Pitstop
>>
>> Pitfall
>>
>> EA Pinball
>>
>> Afterburner
>>
>> Huey Simulator
>>
>> Pacman
>>
>> Rambo
>>
>> Monster Truck 3D
>>
>> Donkey Kong
>>
>> Defender
>>
>> Test Drive
>>
>> Impossible Mission
>>
>> Leaderboard
>>
>> Airborne Ranger
>>
>> Silent Service
>>
>> Spy vs Spy
>>
>> Qbert
>>
>> Marble Madness
>>
>> Frankie goes to Hollywood
>>
>> Way of the Exploding Fist
>>
>>
>>
>> And others… needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
>> easily defeated…
>>
>>
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>>
>>
>>
>> Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>> >
>> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
>> (from
>> > cassette tape mind you):
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>> >
>> > Don Guyer
>> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
>> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>> > Devon, PA 19333
>> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
>> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
>> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>> >
>> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
>> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>> > >
>> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
>> a
>> > slide rule.
>> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
>> an
>> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
>> > ran
>> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
>> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
>> > > The slide rule was faster.
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
>> > 
>>  > > wrote:
>> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
>> > >
>> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
>> > alone the
>> > > ads.
>> > >
>> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
>> the
>> > day.
>> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
>> > >
>> > > -- Ben
>> > >
>> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> > >   ~
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> > >   ~
>> >
>> >
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> >   ~
>> >
>> >
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> >   ~
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Mayo, Bill]

+1.  Mine was actually an expansion to the ColecoVision...plugged into
the expansion port on the front.  Took up a lot of desk space that way.



From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion



My first computer.. the ADAM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

 

Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don't remember the price, but I worked
all summer with my dad to pay it off!

 

My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a
286, with 25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram... $850.  It did not have a
cd rom and I needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x
CD-Rom For $450.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions
on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key
and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy
hours playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Cameron Cooper]

Played Spy Hunter, Zork series, 1942, Arkanoid, Pitstop, Afterburner,
Huey Sim., Pacman, Test Drive, Donkey Kong, Spy vs Spy and Marble
Madness.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

Never played any of the Ultima or Zork series.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

None of the Ultimas?

I had most of those games, and also M.U.L.E. and Seven Cities of Gold.



 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Let's see here.. games I had/played:

 

Summer Games

Karataka

Commando

Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)

Archon

Raid over Moscow (awesome!)

Winter Games

Labyrinth

1942

Little Computer People

Arkanoid

Hacker

Knockout!

Pitstop

Pitfall

EA Pinball

Afterburner

Huey Simulator

Pacman

Rambo

Monster Truck 3D

Donkey Kong

Defender

Test Drive

Impossible Mission

Leaderboard

Airborne Ranger

Silent Service

Spy vs Spy

Qbert

Marble Madness

Frankie goes to Hollywood

Way of the Exploding Fist

 

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games
were easily defeated...

 

-sc

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]

> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]

> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]

> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues

> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]

> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >

> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 

> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Phillip Partipilo]

Heh, I had the same thing.  You hit F12 to load up Deskmate from ROM as well.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Yup.

 

-sc

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 


Looking through the magazines, I remember seeing such large modules.
However, the Sinclair version was pretty small - about the size of (tax
your memory again!) 3 DATs stacked. 

Phillip Partipilo  wrote on 07/16/2010 11:48:48 AM:

> Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape,
> larger then the Sinclair itself?  It's been a real long time since 
> I've touched one of those things, but I really remember how archaic 
> it was, playing around with it at the Boys&Girls club (some form of 
> after-school care, grew up in a single working parent household), 
> even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time J 
>   
>   
> Phillip Partipilo 
> Parametric Solutions Inc. 
> Jupiter, Florida 
> (561) 747-6107 
>   
>   
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion 
>   
> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key
orsome such. 
>   
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho' 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion 
>   
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010
09:10:40 AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
> >   
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> >   
> > -sc 
> >   
> >   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Cameron Cooper]

Did you have to ride a dinosaur to school when a kid?

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.  We had a computer science class featuring a teletype
terminal with an acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local
college.  It ran Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape
created/read by an attachment on the teletype terminal.
The slide rule was faster.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone
the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Here it is attached to the computer...

 

This looks like exactly what I had, sans the spiffy audio cassette drive
I had to supply. I built mine from a kit.

 

You can see the BASIC keywords and the graphic shapes we were talking
about on the "keyboard" too.

 

http://www.epromfoundry.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ts1000.JPG

 

-sc

 

From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape,
larger then the Sinclair itself?  It's been a real long time since I've
touched one of those things, but I really remember how archaic it was,
playing around with it at the Boys&Girls club (some form of after-school
care, grew up in a single working parent household), even compared to my
home TRS80 COCO2 at the time :-)

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or either
the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 could be
invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key or some such.

 

The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho'

 

-sc

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions
on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key
and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy
hours playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[RichardMcClary]

Looking through the magazines, I remember seeing such large modules. 
However, the Sinclair version was pretty small - about the size of (tax 
your memory again!) 3 DATs stacked.

Phillip Partipilo  wrote on 07/16/2010 11:48:48 AM:

> Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape,
> larger then the Sinclair itself?  It?s been a real long time since 
> I?ve touched one of those things, but I really remember how archaic 
> it was, playing around with it at the Boys&Girls club (some form of 
> after-school care, grew up in a single working parent household), 
> even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time J
> 
> 
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
> 
> 
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key orsome 
such.
> 
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho?
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 
AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these? 
> > 
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> > 
> > -sc 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Phillip Partipilo]

Was this the expansion pack that was roughly the size of a VHS tape, larger 
then the Sinclair itself?  It's been a real long time since I've touched one of 
those things, but I really remember how archaic it was, playing around with it 
at the Boys&Girls club (some form of after-school care, grew up in a single 
working parent household), even compared to my home TRS80 COCO2 at the time :)


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107


From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or either the BASIC 
function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 could be invoked by some 
keypress-combination with a function key or some such.

The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber band or 
tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho'

-sc

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with the 
purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste-

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on the 
keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and pushed 
the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours playing with 
this...

"Steven M. Caesare" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote 
on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these...
>
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/
>
> -sc
>
>









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Mike Gill]

Or just use these links instead:

http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_msi
http://www.adobe.com/go/full_flashplayer_win_pl_msi

That will always get you the current version and in MSI format without the
addons/toolbars/scanners. If you want to be legit, then you should go to
www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ and agree to the licensing for that,
but those are the links you will get. The "pl" version is for browsers other
than IE. I haven't messed with the EXE's in years.

-- 
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

On 15 Jul 2010 at 22:20, Ben Scott  wrote:

>   Don't forget that [expletive] "Adobe Download Manager" crap.

Here's the batch file I use to retrieve the latest flash player
= Included Stuff Follows =
:: Flash 10 for Windows2000-7 Internet Explorer:
wget
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_ax.
exe

:: Flash 10 Player for Windows 2000-7, Firefox, Opera, Chrome/Safari:
wget
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_playe
r.exe

= Included Stuff Ends =

Also, I have found that you can download the Flash ActiveX installer by 
downloading it in Firefox.  And if you choose "other OS" you can usually
bang 
your way to a download link that works without the #...@%#$%@!# installer.

>   ftp://ftp.adobe.com/ still works, fortunately, but it's a maze of
> twisty passages, all alike.  Not exactly user-friendly.

At least they provide it, kudos to them for that.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Scot Parsons]

Before they closed and Service Merchandise moved in, we had a store called Sam 
Solomon. I think Service Merchandise bought them out when they went under.

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Actually, I preferred Best Products over Service Merchandise.

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Man... Kay Bee toys and Service Merchandise (a "Catalog Showroom"!) bring back 
memories all in themselves.

-sc

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

My first computer.. the ADAM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don't remember the price, but I worked all 
summer with my dad to pay it off!

My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a 286, with 
25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram... $850.  It did not have a cd rom and I 
needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x CD-Rom For $450.

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with the 
purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste-

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on the 
keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and pushed 
the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours playing with 
this...

"Steven M. Caesare" mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote 
on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these...
>
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/
>
> -sc
>
>

















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Jonathan Link]

I worked at a Best, before they liquidated...

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Jacob  wrote:

>  Actually, I preferred Best Products over Service Merchandise.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 9:21 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> Man… Kay Bee toys and Service Merchandise (a “Catalog Showroom”!) bring
> back memories all in themselves…..
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 11:46 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> My first computer.. the ADAM.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam
>
>
>
> Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don’t remember the price, but I worked
> all summer with my dad to pay it off!
>
>
>
> My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a 286,
> with 25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram… $850.  It did not have a cd rom and I
> needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x CD-Rom…. For $450.
>
>
>
> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>
>
>
>
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with
> the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste-
>
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game
>
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on
> the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and
> pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours
> playing with this...
>
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
> AM:
>
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these…
> >
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Steve Ens]

I loved Contra on the original Nintendo.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Let’s see here.. games I had/played:
>
>
>
> Summer Games
>
> Karataka
>
> Commando
>
> Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
>
> Archon
>
> Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
>
> Winter Games
>
> Labyrinth
>
> 1942
>
> Little Computer People
>
> Arkanoid
>
> Hacker
>
> Knockout!
>
> Pitstop
>
> Pitfall
>
> EA Pinball
>
> Afterburner
>
> Huey Simulator
>
> Pacman
>
> Rambo
>
> Monster Truck 3D
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Defender
>
> Test Drive
>
> Impossible Mission
>
> Leaderboard
>
> Airborne Ranger
>
> Silent Service
>
> Spy vs Spy
>
> Qbert
>
> Marble Madness
>
> Frankie goes to Hollywood
>
> Way of the Exploding Fist
>
>
>
> And others… needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
> easily defeated…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
> (from
> > cassette tape mind you):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > Devon, PA 19333
> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
> a
> > slide rule.
> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
> an
> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> > ran
> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > > The slide rule was faster.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> > >
> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> > alone the
> > > ads.
> > >
> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
> the
> > day.
> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Jacob]

Actually, I preferred Best Products over Service Merchandise.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

Man. Kay Bee toys and Service Merchandise (a "Catalog Showroom"!) bring back
memories all in themselves...

 

-sc

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

My first computer.. the ADAM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

 

Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don't remember the price, but I worked all
summer with my dad to pay it off!

 

My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a 286,
with 25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram. $850.  It did not have a cd rom and I
needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x CD-Rom.. For $450.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with
the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on
the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and
pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours
playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these. 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Man... Kay Bee toys and Service Merchandise (a "Catalog Showroom"!)
bring back memories all in themselves.

 

-sc

 

From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 

My first computer.. the ADAM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

 

Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don't remember the price, but I worked
all summer with my dad to pay it off!

 

My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a
286, with 25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram... $850.  It did not have a
cd rom and I needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x
CD-Rom For $450.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions
on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key
and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy
hours playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Never played any of the Ultima or Zork series.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

None of the Ultimas?

I had most of those games, and also M.U.L.E. and Seven Cities of Gold.



 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Let's see here.. games I had/played:

 

Summer Games

Karataka

Commando

Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)

Archon

Raid over Moscow (awesome!)

Winter Games

Labyrinth

1942

Little Computer People

Arkanoid

Hacker

Knockout!

Pitstop

Pitfall

EA Pinball

Afterburner

Huey Simulator

Pacman

Rambo

Monster Truck 3D

Donkey Kong

Defender

Test Drive

Impossible Mission

Leaderboard

Airborne Ranger

Silent Service

Spy vs Spy

Qbert

Marble Madness

Frankie goes to Hollywood

Way of the Exploding Fist

 

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games
were easily defeated...

 

-sc

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]

> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]

> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues

> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]

> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues

> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]

> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >

> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 

> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Jonathan Link]

None of the Ultimas?
I had most of those games, and also M.U.L.E. and Seven Cities of Gold.



On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Let’s see here.. games I had/played:
>
>
>
> Summer Games
>
> Karataka
>
> Commando
>
> Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)
>
> Archon
>
> Raid over Moscow (awesome!)
>
> Winter Games
>
> Labyrinth
>
> 1942
>
> Little Computer People
>
> Arkanoid
>
> Hacker
>
> Knockout!
>
> Pitstop
>
> Pitfall
>
> EA Pinball
>
> Afterburner
>
> Huey Simulator
>
> Pacman
>
> Rambo
>
> Monster Truck 3D
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Defender
>
> Test Drive
>
> Impossible Mission
>
> Leaderboard
>
> Airborne Ranger
>
> Silent Service
>
> Spy vs Spy
>
> Qbert
>
> Marble Madness
>
> Frankie goes to Hollywood
>
> Way of the Exploding Fist
>
>
>
> And others… needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games were
> easily defeated…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Friday diversion
>
>
>
> Mmmm...Bard's Tale.
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
> (from
> > cassette tape mind you):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > Devon, PA 19333
> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
> a
> > slide rule.
> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
> an
> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> > ran
> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > > The slide rule was faster.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
>  > > wrote:
> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> > >
> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> > alone the
> > > ads.
> > >
> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
> the
> > day.
> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Let's see here.. games I had/played:

 

Summer Games

Karataka

Commando

Spy Hunter (built my own hybrid joystick for this one)

Archon

Raid over Moscow (awesome!)

Winter Games

Labyrinth

1942

Little Computer People

Arkanoid

Hacker

Knockout!

Pitstop

Pitfall

EA Pinball

Afterburner

Huey Simulator

Pacman

Rambo

Monster Truck 3D

Donkey Kong

Defender

Test Drive

Impossible Mission

Leaderboard

Airborne Ranger

Silent Service

Spy vs Spy

Qbert

Marble Madness

Frankie goes to Hollywood

Way of the Exploding Fist

 

And others... needless to say, the copy protection mechanisms on games
were easily defeated...

 

-sc

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
>
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 
> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Jacob]

My first computer.. the ADAM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

 

Bought it at a Kay Bee toy store. Don't remember the price, but I worked all
summer with my dad to pay it off!

 

My first computer I purchased was from Service Merchandise. It was a 286,
with 25 MB hard drive and 16KB of Ram. $850.  It did not have a cd rom and I
needed one. I saved and saved for months to purchase a 2x CD-Rom.. For $450.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with
the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on
the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and
pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours
playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these. 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Jonathan Link]

Mmmm...Bard's Tale.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
> (from
> > cassette tape mind you):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> >
> > Don Guyer
> > Systems Engineer - Information Services
> > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> > Devon, PA 19333
> > Direct: (610) 993-3299
> > Fax: (610) 650-5306
> > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
> a
> > slide rule.
> > > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
> an
> > > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> > ran
> > > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > > The slide rule was faster.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> > >
> > >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> > alone the
> > > ads.
> > >
> > >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
> the
> > day.
> > > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Don Guyer]

Yeah, I had Zaxxon, don't remember any more titles at the moment though.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> 
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 
> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Hehe... I liked me some Beach Head, Bards Tale, Zaxxon, etc... on my C64

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from
> cassette tape mind you):
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0
> 
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> >
> > I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got
a
> slide rule.
> > We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with
an
> > acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
> ran
> > Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> > attachment on the teletype terminal.
> > The slide rule was faster.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
> 
> > wrote:
> > > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> >
> >   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
> alone the
> > ads.
> >
> >   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for
the
> day.
> > Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Don Guyer]

OMG! I was just watching this game I used to play for hours on the C64
(from cassette tape mind you):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QVl5Z9gL0

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.
> We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with an
> acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
ran
> Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> attachment on the teletype terminal.
> The slide rule was faster.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> 
>   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
alone the
> ads.
> 
>   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.
> Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Especially when typing in those lo...@ss program listings from the
magazine??

 

-sc

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Friday diversion

 


I did invest $2 and a stamp to get a KB "Template".  It stuck onto the
membrane KB and had holes in it for fingers.  It truly spead things up! 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 10:19:56
AM:

> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key
orsome such. 
>   
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho' 
>   
> -sc 
>   
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion 
>   
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010
09:10:40 AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
> >   
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> >   
> > -sc 
> >   
> >   
>   
>   
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[RichardMcClary]

I did invest $2 and a stamp to get a KB "Template".  It stuck onto the 
membrane KB and had holes in it for fingers.  It truly spead things up!

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 10:19:56 
AM:

> Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or 
> either the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 
> could be invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key orsome 
such.
> 
> The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
> band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho?
> 
> -sc
> 
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> 
> Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
> with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 
> 
> 1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
> 2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
> 3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 
> 
> The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC 
> functions on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you 
> simply held one key and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids 
> and I wpent many happy hours playing with this... 
> 
> "Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 
AM:
> 
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these? 
> > 
> > http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> > that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
> > 
> > -sc 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Exactly. Thee (membrane!) keyboard had standard characters, or either
the BASIC function names, or graphic shapes. The latter 2 could be
invoked by some keypress-combination with a function key or some such.

 

The expansion pack I had was 16KB. You had to supply your own rubber
band or tape to keep it from wobbling out of the connector tho'

 

-sc

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

 


Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away,
with the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste- 

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81 
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion 
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game 

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions
on the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key
and pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy
hours playing with this... 

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40
AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these... 
>   
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/ 
>   
> -sc 
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

And to think they built the SR-71 with those things.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Friday diversion
> 
> I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.
> We had a computer science class featuring a teletype terminal with an
> acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local college.  It
ran
> Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape created/read by an
> attachment on the teletype terminal.
> The slide rule was faster.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> 
>   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
alone the
> ads.
> 
>   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.
> Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

"Hold my screwdriver, I have to use 2 hands to lift this full-height
5-1/4" drive in to the bay."

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > Remember installing 5 and 10 MB HDD's and deciding whether to format
> > them MFM or RLL to squeeze a little extra space out of them.
> 
>   And the obligatory, "Wow!  That's like 40 floppies!  I'll *never*
run out of
> disk space again!"
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[RichardMcClary]

Mid-year 1983, a St Louis-based grocery store chain was giving away, with 
the purchase of 3 tubes of toothpaste-

1. Sinclair/Timex Z-81
2. 8 Kb (or was it 16?)memory expansion
3. Cassettes for a spread sheet, a database, and a backgammon game

The Sinclair had its OS and BASIC on ROM.  It also had BASIC functions on 
the keys.  That is, instead of typing "Poke", you simply held one key and 
pushed the key that said "Poke".  My kids and I wpent many happy hours 
playing with this...

"Steven M. Caesare"  wrote on 07/16/2010 09:10:40 
AM:

> Man, I remember a bunch of these?
> 
> http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-
> that-will-blow-your-processor/
> 
> -sc
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Kim Longenbaugh]

I had an abacus when I was a kid.  When I got to high school, I got a
slide rule.  We had a computer science class featuring a teletype
terminal with an acoustic modem that connected to a LameFrame at a local
college.  It ran Fortran.  Our programs were stored on paper tape
created/read by an attachment on the teletype terminal.
The slide rule was faster.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday diversion

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these...

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone
the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Remember installing 5 and 10 MB HDD's and deciding whether to format
> them MFM or RLL to squeeze a little extra space out of them.

  And the obligatory, "Wow!  That's like 40 floppies!  I'll *never*
run out of disk space again!"

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

I think that was 10 years too late.. that was already the Palmer Era.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > Well, later in life anyway when they couldn't figure out how to kill
> > their sacred VAX cow and movie on. For a good while, they were about
> > as good as it got, as I've gathered from many people who were their
> > customers and from reading I've done.
> 
>   From what I've heard: Their tech was always sweet.  And they were
easier
> to buy from than IBM, but that's damning with faint praise.
> 
>   Circa 1995 I was working for a place that was bought a lot of DEC
stuff, and
> from what I saw it was incredibly difficult to be a DEC customer.
Hard to get
> in touch with sales.  The joke was you had to argue with the sales
reps to
> convince them you really wanted to buy something.  Hard to know what
to
> buy.  You needed million line items to get a working configuration.
> Expensive.  Onerous licensing.  Etc, etc.  Maybe they had already
declined at
> that point; I dunno.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Yeah, I counted 16-17 that I remember.

Worked and/or played on a bunch of them.

Remember installing 5 and 10 MB HDD's and deciding whether to format
them MFM or RLL to squeeze a little extra space out of them.

-sc
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 11:03 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday diversion
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > Man, I remember a bunch of these...
> 
>   I remember using and even owning several of those products, let
alone the
> ads.
> 
>   My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.
> Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Whining...

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
> Well, later in life anyway when they couldn't figure out how to kill
> their sacred VAX cow and movie on. For a good while, they were about as
> good as it got, as I've gathered from many people who were their
> customers and from reading I've done.

  From what I've heard: Their tech was always sweet.  And they were
easier to buy from than IBM, but that's damning with faint praise.

  Circa 1995 I was working for a place that was bought a lot of DEC
stuff, and from what I saw it was incredibly difficult to be a DEC
customer.  Hard to get in touch with sales.  The joke was you had to
argue with the sales reps to convince them you really wanted to buy
something.  Hard to know what to buy.  You needed million line items
to get a working configuration.  Expensive.  Onerous licensing.  Etc,
etc.  Maybe they had already declined at that point; I dunno.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Friday diversion

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> Man, I remember a bunch of these…

  I remember using and even owning several of those products, let alone the ads.

  My first "IBM compatible" was a Tandy 1000 SL.  Neat machine for the
day.  Had MS-DOS in ROM so you didn't need to boot from floppy.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Passwords on paper? Seriously?

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 15 Jul 2010 at 22:20, Ben Scott  wrote:

>   Don't forget that [expletive] "Adobe Download Manager" crap.

Here's the batch file I use to retrieve the latest flash player
= Included Stuff Follows =
:: Flash 10 for Windows2000-7 Internet Explorer:
wget 
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_ax.exe

:: Flash 10 Player for Windows 2000-7, Firefox, Opera, Chrome/Safari:
wget 
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe

= Included Stuff Ends =

Also, I have found that you can download the Flash ActiveX installer by 
downloading it in Firefox.  And if you choose "other OS" you can usually bang 
your way to a download link that works without the #...@%#$%@!# installer.

>   ftp://ftp.adobe.com/ still works, fortunately, but it's a maze of
> twisty passages, all alike.  Not exactly user-friendly.

At least they provide it, kudos to them for that.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

bes express + sbs 2008

[justino garcia]

Does sbs 2008 exchange support bess express
10 user office?

-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Friday diversion

[Steven M. Caesare]

Man, I remember a bunch of these...

 

http://www.informationtechnologyschools.org/blog/2010/30-old-pc-ads-that
-will-blow-your-processor/

 

-sc


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

I know Fujitsu and NEC had some big systems... and I think they went the 
Itanium route.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
> 
> Windows - probably 2003 at that time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> br...@briandesmond.com
> 
> c   - 312.731.3132
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
> 
> Nice... what OS?
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:49 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Whining...
> >
> > I've seen pictures of tests of an IP Video solution on Itanium where
> > they had something like 512 NICs in the back of the box.
> >
> > The Itanium deployments were always narrow but they definitely do/did
> > exist. I still run into the boxes fairly frequently. IA64 Windows is dead
> though.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Desmond
> > br...@briandesmond.com
> >
> > c   - 312.731.3132
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:40 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Whining...
> >
> > In fear of taking this topic waaay of course...
> >
> > I used to contract for Intel, doing Bios Validation (for Linux) on
> > Itanium "Big Sur" platforms. (Notice, not Itanium 2.)
> >
> > There was a version of Windows XP for Itanium. They lady doing the
> > WHQL testing on it had a lot of fun doing it. (Ever see 127 USB
> > devices plugged into the same root USB port?) It ran well, but not any
> > better than a _much_ cheaper Pentium III of the time.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, yes. Itanium running Windows does work. Didn't Microsoft just
> > announce that they won't be making any more versions of Windows for
> IA64?
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Ben Scott
> > [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > Sent: Thu, 15 Jul 2010
> > 16:26:22 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Whining...
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Michael B. Smith
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I believe (and it maps to my experience as well) that Brian uses "rogue"
> > > as
> > > > meaning "outside of established corporate standards".
> > >
> > >   Since the dawn of the computer age, there have been corporate
> > > standards, and there have been people finding ways around them in
> > > the interests of actually getting work done.  If you waved a magic
> > > wand and made all that "rogue" stuff instantly disappear, you'd
> > > create havoc just about everywhere.
> > >
> > >   Again, you need all the pieces, both big and small.  I'm sure
> > > you'd never find a megacorp running their ERP system on PostgreSQL
> > > (not yet, anyway).  But for want of a nail...
> > >
> > > > Arguably, MS-SQL reached performance respectability with SQL 2000 ...
> > >
> > >   Wasn't SQL 2000 still stuck on the 32-bit i386 architecture?
> > >   Oh, right, I forgot about IA-64.  (Just like the
> > > rest of the industry.  ;-) )  I admit I've never even seen an IA-64
> > > box in person.  How well does Microsoft's do on IA-64?  Is it like
> > > x86-64, where it was a red-headed stepchild for the first few
> > > releases (i.e., yes, you could run it, but there was a ton of stuff
> > > that didn't work right)?
> > >
> > >   BTW, in response to another subthread: According to Wikipedia,
> > > Microsoft rewrote most of the Sybase code for SQL 2000 (7.0).
> > >
> > > -- Ben
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > >   ~
> > >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Brian Desmond]

Windows - probably 2003 at that time. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining...

Nice... what OS?

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:49 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
> 
> I've seen pictures of tests of an IP Video solution on Itanium where 
> they had something like 512 NICs in the back of the box.
> 
> The Itanium deployments were always narrow but they definitely do/did 
> exist. I still run into the boxes fairly frequently. IA64 Windows is dead 
> though.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> br...@briandesmond.com
> 
> c   - 312.731.3132
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
> 
> In fear of taking this topic waaay of course...
> 
> I used to contract for Intel, doing Bios Validation (for Linux) on 
> Itanium "Big Sur" platforms. (Notice, not Itanium 2.)
> 
> There was a version of Windows XP for Itanium. They lady doing the 
> WHQL testing on it had a lot of fun doing it. (Ever see 127 USB 
> devices plugged into the same root USB port?) It ran well, but not any 
> better than a _much_ cheaper Pentium III of the time.
> 
> 
> 
> So, yes. Itanium running Windows does work. Didn't Microsoft just 
> announce that they won't be making any more versions of Windows for IA64?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ben Scott
> [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 15 Jul 2010
> 16:26:22 -0700
> Subject: Re: Whining...
> 
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > I believe (and it maps to my experience as well) that Brian uses "rogue"
> > as
> > > meaning "outside of established corporate standards".
> >
> >   Since the dawn of the computer age, there have been corporate 
> > standards, and there have been people finding ways around them in 
> > the interests of actually getting work done.  If you waved a magic 
> > wand and made all that "rogue" stuff instantly disappear, you'd 
> > create havoc just about everywhere.
> >
> >   Again, you need all the pieces, both big and small.  I'm sure 
> > you'd never find a megacorp running their ERP system on PostgreSQL 
> > (not yet, anyway).  But for want of a nail...
> >
> > > Arguably, MS-SQL reached performance respectability with SQL 2000 ...
> >
> >   Wasn't SQL 2000 still stuck on the 32-bit i386 architecture?
> >   Oh, right, I forgot about IA-64.  (Just like the 
> > rest of the industry.  ;-) )  I admit I've never even seen an IA-64 
> > box in person.  How well does Microsoft's do on IA-64?  Is it like 
> > x86-64, where it was a red-headed stepchild for the first few 
> > releases (i.e., yes, you could run it, but there was a ton of stuff 
> > that didn't work right)?
> >
> >   BTW, in response to another subthread: According to Wikipedia, 
> > Microsoft rewrote most of the Sybase code for SQL 2000 (7.0).
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> >   ~
> >
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

Indeed it was already in development, but from what I've read Intel did
indeed incorporate some of the intellectual property in to Itanium from
Alpha program[7] (which in turn incorporated much of the cancelled
Prism[2] project within DEC[1])

-sc

[1] Geek lore would have it that the "AXP" designator on the "Alpha AXP"
chips stood for "Almost eXactly Prism"[3]
[2] Another Cutler project[4]
[3] The similarities were numerous: Palcode/Epicode, RISC instruction
set, the layout tuning, some register implementation, etc...
[4] No wonder NT[5] screamed on it
[5] Although at the time, it was to be the CPU for Mica[6]
[6] Which, as we've discussed here, was really NT v0.5 anyway
[7] Altho substantial details of exactly WHAT are hard to come by


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
> 
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Steven M. Caesare

> wrote:
> > I wonder when Itanium will finally be killed off.
> > When it goes, the last _DIRECT_ lineage from Alpha goes away.
> 
>   Is Itanium really a direct descendant of the Alpha?  I know Compaq
later sold
> the Alpha intellectual property to Intel, but Itanium was already on
the
> market by then.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

Yeah? Cool. What vintage Alpha and what model itanium?

I think HP may be the single largest distributor of them outside of
Intel, if not even larger.

Of course, HP was a significant contributor to their development with
Intel... I think there's some PA-RISC lineage in it.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
> 
> I like our Itaniums.  We're running HP-UX on them and those machines
are
> fast.  Migrated from Tru-64 on Alphas and saw run times on jobs
reduced
> from 4 hours to 23 minutes.  Oh yeah, we like our Itaniums...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Whining...
> 
> I wonder when Itanium will finally be killed off.
> 
> When it goes, the last _DIRECT_ lineage from Alpha goes away.
> 
> -sc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
> 
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>  wrote:
> > In fear of taking this topic waaay of course...
> 
>   I'm not really sure it had much of a proper topic to begin with. :)
> 
> > There was a version of Windows XP for Itanium.
> 
>   No kidding.  I didn't know that.  What was it good for?  There's no
> x86 compatibility on the Itanium, right?  So almost no software.  I
guess
> maybe you could open *really big* files in Notepad... ;-)
> 
> > Ever see 127 USB devices plugged into the same root USB port?
> 
>   Hah!
> 
>Hmmm, a few of these would come in handy:
> 
> http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/49_port_usb_hub_01-
> 499x3
> 33.jpg
> 
> -- Ben
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

ME's dad used to work on VOD stuff.

 

-sc

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Whining...

 

Don't forget what may be in your house: on-demand from cable company or
telco. ;)

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

 

Lemme see...  IP Video, massive horsepower, state of the art
equipment...

 

It had to be streaming high-res satellite imagery for a clandestine
government organization.

 

Or pr0n.

 

Probably pr0n.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ben Scott 
wrote:

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Brian Desmond 
wrote:
> I've seen pictures of tests of an IP Video solution on Itanium where
they
> had something like 512 NICs in the back of the box.

 Holy cow.  Even with quad port NICs that's 128 slots.  I know they
have separate I/O modules on these things but even so that's gotta be
a big box.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Whining...

[Steven M. Caesare]

Clendestine Gov't Pr0n!

 

-sc

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Whining...

 

Lemme see...  IP Video, massive horsepower, state of the art
equipment...

 

It had to be streaming high-res satellite imagery for a clandestine
government organization.

 

Or pr0n.

 

Probably pr0n.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ben Scott 
wrote:

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Brian Desmond 
wrote:
> I've seen pictures of tests of an IP Video solution on Itanium where
they
> had something like 512 NICs in the back of the box.

 Holy cow.  Even with quad port NICs that's 128 slots.  I know they
have separate I/O modules on these things but even so that's gotta be
a big box.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~