RE: What's Your Phone?

[John Hornbuckle]

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may 
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd think 
MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as stable as 
can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't say the same 
for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And the Metro UI has 
gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new way of looking at 
information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI to be quite pleasing. 
It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that standpoint, WP7 is ready 
to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is where 
WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The phone 
went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the 
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order to 
seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps 
available. You can see the stats visualized here:

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs.




John

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement.  By the time 
"down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't 
already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows Mobile 
user from the beginning.  But it's obvious for a long time now that Apple and 
now Google are doing things to get market penetration that Microsoft can't seem 
to figure out. I think it's mostly to do with ease of access to apps and making 
the phone easy to use for the non-technically oriented person. Yet still giving 
us geeks the ability to hack the phones to pieces.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Windows Phone 7 here.

And let me take a moment to shamelessly plug it... The WP7 platform is pretty 
nice! It will absolutely give the iOS and Android platforms real competition 
down the road.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us





- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" 
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 


http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-n
ielsen.html?docid=120610f

https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get
.html?hpg1=bn


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[ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Michael B. Smith]

[Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_1I1oYApw&feature=youtu.be

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RE: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[John Hornbuckle]

+1!



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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:09 AM
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Subject: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_1I1oYApw&feature=youtu.be

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Re: What's Your Phone?

[James Kerr]

Or mine either. She cooks for me so I have lunch to bring to work each day.

On 1/3/2011 6:12 PM, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:
>
> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a 
> fantastic cook to boot..
>
> *Greg Sweers*
>
> CEO
>
> */ACTS360.com /*//
>
> /P.O. Box 1193/
>
> /Brandon, FL  33509/
>
> /813-657-0849 Office/
>
> /813-758-6850 Cell/
>
> /813-341-1270 Fax/
>
> *From:*Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>
> *From:*Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and 
> all that goes with that line of thought.
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr  > wrote:
>
> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which 
> many chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.
>
> James
>
> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>
>
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>
>
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
> >From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at 
> the very least computer savvy..."
>
> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>
> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and 
> kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was 
> wrong with the device?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). 
> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
> Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
>
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f
>
> https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn
>
>
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Re: What's Your Phone?

[James Kerr]

My wife didn't know how to cook well either, so I taught her so she 
could cook for me.

James


> *From:*Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 7:14 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
>
> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like
> to cook, but I would like to have more time in the evenings to
> devote to other hobbies.
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM,  > wrote:
>
> Shhh..  Don’t tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is
> a fantastic cook to boot..
>
> *Greg Sweers*
>
> CEO
>
> */ACTS360.com /*
>
> /P.O. Box 1193/
>
> /Brandon, FL  33509/
>
> /813-657-0849 Office/
>
> /813-758-6850 Cell/
>
> /813-341-1270 Fax/
>
> *From:*Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>
> *From:*Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored",
> and all that goes with that line of thought.
>
> --
> ME2
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr  > wrote:
>
> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.]
> which many chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't
> understand why.
>
> James
>
> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  >
>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>
>
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are
> at the very least computer savvy..."
>
> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>
> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone
> and kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out
> what was wrong with the device?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is).
> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
> Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  >
>
> 
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f
>
>
>
>
> 
> https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn
>
>
> Roger Wright
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Rod Trent]

The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback (bug,
customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line.  There's not enough fanatics
for WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large number of
Apple screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty.  I was an
avid WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released.  I just
recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob device
after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping myself
for waiting so long.  WP7 looks nice.  I was particularly impressed with the
Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that
experience to a phone.  Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone competitor,
which they have done.  However, while they were developing with that in
mind, Android has increased market share and looks to overtake the
competition in the very near future.  And, with the iPhone coming to Verizon
shortly, WP7 really doesn't have a great chance.  Unless RIM does something
significant, you won't hear from them in 5 years or so.

I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money in
again.  I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely hate
that I have to rely on Google  services so much for Android
devices.  I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best
experience available right now for my situation.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd
think MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as
stable as can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't
say the same for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And
the Metro UI has gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new
way of looking at information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI
to be quite pleasing. It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that
standpoint, WP7 is ready to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is
where WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The
phone went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order
to seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps
available. You can see the stats visualized here:

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs.




John

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement.  By the time
"down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't
already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows
Mobile user from the beginning.  But it's obvious for a long time now that
Apple and now Google are doing things to get market penetration that
Microsoft can't seem to figure out. I think it's mostly to do with ease of
access to apps and making the phone easy to use for the non-technically
oriented person. Yet still giving us geeks the ability to hack the phones to
pieces.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Windows Phone 7 here.

And let me take a moment to shamelessly plug it... The WP7 platform is
pretty nice! It will absolutely give the iOS and Android platforms real
competition down the road.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us





- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" 
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 


http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-n
ielsen.html?docid=120610f

https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get
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Re: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

+1???

How about +1,000,000!!!

...And before you go thinking I'm anti-Brit, I'm not. I can proudly trace my 
ancestry back 15 generations to Wales. I'm pro-freedom, and highly irritated 
about the way some things have turned out over here.probably not what our 
founding fathers envisioned. Another Tea party anyone?  ;-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "John Hornbuckle" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 7:31 am
Subject: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

+1!



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_1I1oYApw&feature=youtu.be

Regards,

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Re: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Andrew S. Baker]

Oh, that is most spectacular... :)


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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> [Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_1I1oYApw&feature=youtu.be
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
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Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Jon D]

Do you have to configure Raid 0 before wiping, or does it matter?
I would be a little nervous something like Raid 5 would leave data somewhere???


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Re: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[William Robbins]

That was very nice!

 - WJR


On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 07:43, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Oh, that is most spectacular... :)
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:
>
>> [Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_1I1oYApw&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>>
>>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[John Hornbuckle]

Android has performed admirably, but that platform has no solution to the 
fragmentation problem. As I mentioned earlier, when I was doing my research for 
a new phone I was blown away by how many different versions of Android were 
floating around out there. Every phone seemed to be running a different 
version, and most devices couldn't be updated to the latest versions as Google 
released them. That's the Android platform's only really big weakness that I'm 
aware of, but it was enough to push me to WP7.



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback (bug, 
customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line.  There's not enough fanatics for 
WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large number of Apple 
screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty.  I was an avid 
WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released.  I just 
recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob device 
after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping myself 
for waiting so long.  WP7 looks nice.  I was particularly impressed with the 
Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that experience 
to a phone.  Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone competitor, which they have 
done.  However, while they were developing with that in mind, Android has 
increased market share and looks to overtake the competition in the very near 
future.  And, with the iPhone coming to Verizon shortly, WP7 really doesn't 
have a great chance.  Unless RIM does something significant, you won't hear 
from them in 5 years or so.

I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money in 
again.  I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely hate 
that I have to rely on Google  services so much for Android devices.  
I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best experience available 
right now for my situation.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may 
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd think 
MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as stable as 
can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't say the same 
for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And the Metro UI has 
gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new way of looking at 
information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI to be quite pleasing. 
It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that standpoint, WP7 is ready 
to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is where 
WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The phone 
went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the 
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order to 
seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps 
available. You can see the stats visualized here:

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs.




John

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement.  By the time 
"down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't 
already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows Mobile 
user from the beginning.  But it's obvious for a long time now that Apple and 
now Google are doing things to get market penetration that Microsoft can't seem 
to figure out. I think it's mostly to do with ease of access to apps and making 
the phone easy to use for the non-technically oriented person. Yet still giving 
us geeks the ability to hack the phones to pieces.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Windows Phone 7 here.

And let me take a moment to shamelessly plug it... The WP7 platform is pretty 
nice! It will absolutely give the iOS and Android platforms real competition 
down the road.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us





- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" 
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 


http://www.networkworld.com/news/201

RE: wiping drives in a RAID

[Maglinger, Paul]

One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides more 
satisfaction and stress relief.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store 
sensitive info, just controller data.
What specific errors are you getting?

Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the back I 
use:)
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wiping drives in a RAID

We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a new 
home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.

Specifics:

Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.  

We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I 
don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would talk 
to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.

What do you guys use in this type of scenario?

Thanks,

Joe



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RE: FEP 2010

[Steve Burkett]

Indeed it is, 74MB ISO, go get it!



-Original Message-
From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 December 2010 15:27
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: FEP 2010

According to
http://blogs.technet.com/b/forefront/archive/2010/12/16/announcing-foref
ront-endpoint-protection-2010.aspx
it'll be on VLSC on saturday.

-Anders

Sent from my iPhone

On 29 dec 2010, at 19:56, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> The EA part is what I meant.  Saw that it was RTM, and went to look
for it on our EA.
>
 Anders Blomgren  12/29/2010 10:09 AM >>>
> What do you mean by production release? It RTM'd a bit over a week 
> ago. Still not on EA though.
>
> -Anders
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 dec 2010, at 18:46, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
>
>> Anyone know when the production release is going to be?
>>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Rod Trent]

I suspect the same thing will happen with WP7, but I could be wrong.  WinMob
had the same problem and it was up to the device manufacturer to release an
update after testing with the specific devices.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Android has performed admirably, but that platform has no solution to the
fragmentation problem. As I mentioned earlier, when I was doing my research
for a new phone I was blown away by how many different versions of Android
were floating around out there. Every phone seemed to be running a different
version, and most devices couldn't be updated to the latest versions as
Google released them. That's the Android platform's only really big weakness
that I'm aware of, but it was enough to push me to WP7.



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback (bug,
customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line.  There's not enough fanatics
for WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large number of
Apple screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty.  I was an
avid WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released.  I just
recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob device
after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping myself
for waiting so long.  WP7 looks nice.  I was particularly impressed with the
Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that
experience to a phone.  Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone competitor,
which they have done.  However, while they were developing with that in
mind, Android has increased market share and looks to overtake the
competition in the very near future.  And, with the iPhone coming to Verizon
shortly, WP7 really doesn't have a great chance.  Unless RIM does something
significant, you won't hear from them in 5 years or so.

I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money in
again.  I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely hate
that I have to rely on Google  services so much for Android
devices.  I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best
experience available right now for my situation.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd
think MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as
stable as can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't
say the same for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And
the Metro UI has gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new
way of looking at information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI
to be quite pleasing. It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that
standpoint, WP7 is ready to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is
where WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The
phone went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order
to seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps
available. You can see the stats visualized here:

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs.




John

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement.  By the time
"down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't
already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows
Mobile user from the beginning.  But it's obvious for a long time now that
Apple and now Google are doing things to get market penetration that
Microsoft can't seem to figure out. I think it's mostly to do with ease of
access to apps and making the phone easy to use for the non-technically
oriented person. Yet still giving us geeks the ability to hack the phones to
pieces.  

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Windows Phone 7 here.

And let me take a moment to shamelessly plug it... The WP7 platform is
pretty nice! It will

RE: What's Your Phone?

[Maglinger, Paul]

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men that 
do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook, but I 
would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, 
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a fantastic 
cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all that 
goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many chicks 
seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the very 
>least computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept 
saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with 
the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f


https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn


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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Hahaha...+1

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men that 
do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook, but I 
would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, 
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
Shhh..  Don’t tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a fantastic 
cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all that 
goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many chicks 
seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the very 
>least computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept 
saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with 
the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f


https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn


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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Glen Johnson]

I'm seeing that fragmentation more and more with the Android.  Apps work well 
on one phone, but not so good on others.   Carriers add their own bells and 
whistles which confuses users.
Just try writing instructions to set up active sync with an exchange server.  
Different menus, choices and steps, depending on phone model and os version.
I think Android will be as fragmented as Linux in a couple years, and I just 
switched from WinMo to Android back in August.
I really hate this about Android as I like the os and how it works, the ui is 
good and there are plenty enough apps and features, but if Google doesn't take 
back some control, I think it will be doomed.
Don't even want to think about the various flavors on android tablets.

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Android has performed admirably, but that platform has no solution to the 
fragmentation problem. As I mentioned earlier, when I was doing my research for 
a new phone I was blown away by how many different versions of Android were 
floating around out there. Every phone seemed to be running a different 
version, and most devices couldn't be updated to the latest versions as Google 
released them. That's the Android platform's only really big weakness that I'm 
aware of, but it was enough to push me to WP7.



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback (bug, 
customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line.  There's not enough fanatics for 
WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large number of Apple 
screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty.  I was an avid 
WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released.  I just 
recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob device 
after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping myself 
for waiting so long.  WP7 looks nice.  I was particularly impressed with the 
Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that experience 
to a phone.  Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone competitor, which they have 
done.  However, while they were developing with that in mind, Android has 
increased market share and looks to overtake the competition in the very near 
future.  And, with the iPhone coming to Verizon shortly, WP7 really doesn't 
have a great chance.  Unless RIM does something significant, you won't hear 
from them in 5 years or so.

I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money in 
again.  I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely hate 
that I have to rely on Google  services so much for Android devices.  
I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best experience available 
right now for my situation.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may 
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd think 
MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as stable as 
can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't say the same 
for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And the Metro UI has 
gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new way of looking at 
information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI to be quite pleasing. 
It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that standpoint, WP7 is ready 
to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is where 
WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The phone 
went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the 
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order to 
seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps 
available. You can see the stats visualized here:

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs.




John

-Original Message-
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement.  By the time 
"down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't 
already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows Mobile 
user from the beginning.  But it's obvious for a long time now that Apple and 
now Google are 

RE: wiping drives in a RAID

[Glen Johnson]

Might want to check the RAID bios setup.
Some have a clean/wipe routine built in.

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides more 
satisfaction and stress relief.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store 
sensitive info, just controller data.
What specific errors are you getting?

Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the back I 
use:) jlc

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wiping drives in a RAID

We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a new 
home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.

Specifics:

Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.  

We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I 
don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would talk 
to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.

What do you guys use in this type of scenario?

Thanks,

Joe



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RE: What's Your Phone?

[David Lum]

I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once took 
a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.

Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

Hahaha...+1

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men that 
do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook, but I 
would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, 
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a fantastic 
cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all that 
goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many chicks 
seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the very 
>least computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept 
saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with 
the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.
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From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f


https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn


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Re: [ot] OK, it's a MSFT advert - but it made me smile

[Jonathan Link]

Very good, thanks!

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

> [Smiles are for US-only; prolly irritate Brits. :-) ]
>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Alan Davies]

I have some hope that it won't as much - the carriers have no real way
of customising WP7 like Android, other than adding their own apps.
Also, one would *hope* that MS have more experience in the whole
patching/SP'ing of products and pushing that out to various carriers
(again, to the original point, there should be far less scope for a
release to cause an issue with an individual carrier/handset with WP7
than Android .. in theory).

I'm really torn between an Android handset such as the Desire HD and a
WP7 phone such as the Samsung Omnia 7 (the handset it great, but a
little ugly).  I don't "do" Mac .. ethically, aesthetically,
baah-baahlly or anything elsely!!  Since I have a Hotmail address from
15 years back, use Messenger and have an Xbox live account (I'm not a
huge MS-o-phile, honest!), it seems like the integration would be
tighter on WP7 than Android, but I'm not sure how much of an issue this
is in reality.

Owing to not being a 15 year old girl, or working in PR/marketing, the
total amount of apps in 100s of thousands doesn't really seem very
relevant as long the basic killer apps are covered, which hopefully is a
given.  ;o)



a 

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: 04 January 2011 14:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I suspect the same thing will happen with WP7, but I could be wrong.
WinMob
had the same problem and it was up to the device manufacturer to release
an
update after testing with the specific devices.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Android has performed admirably, but that platform has no solution to
the
fragmentation problem. As I mentioned earlier, when I was doing my
research
for a new phone I was blown away by how many different versions of
Android
were floating around out there. Every phone seemed to be running a
different
version, and most devices couldn't be updated to the latest versions as
Google released them. That's the Android platform's only really big
weakness
that I'm aware of, but it was enough to push me to WP7.



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback
(bug,
customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line.  There's not enough
fanatics
for WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large
number of
Apple screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty.  I was
an
avid WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released.  I
just
recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob
device
after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping
myself
for waiting so long.  WP7 looks nice.  I was particularly impressed with
the
Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that
experience to a phone.  Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone
competitor,
which they have done.  However, while they were developing with that in
mind, Android has increased market share and looks to overtake the
competition in the very near future.  And, with the iPhone coming to
Verizon
shortly, WP7 really doesn't have a great chance.  Unless RIM does
something
significant, you won't hear from them in 5 years or so.

I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money
in
again.  I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely
hate
that I have to rely on Google  services so much for Android
devices.  I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best
experience available right now for my situation.


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just
may
happen sooner than many people think.

If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews,
I'd
think MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as
stable as can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly
couldn't
say the same for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2).
And
the Metro UI has gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh
new
way of looking at information. I agree with those reviews, and find the
UI
to be quite pleasing. It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from
that
standpoint, WP7 is ready to compete right now.

Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this
is
where WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME).
The
phone went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the
Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the cre

Konica Minolta Drivers

[Kelli Sterley]

This probably isn't the correct list but I'm hoping someone else has what I
need or can point me in the right direction.

I have a Konica Minolta BizHub 222 and I need both the 64 and 32 bit drivers
for it.  The only thing KM has on their website is a universal driver that
isn't worth the time it takes to download.  It can't even find my BizHub.

Any help would be great - I've tried contacting KM but they are no help at
all.

KS

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Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Bill Humphries]

i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so 
frustrating.  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a 
christmas to justify the purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic 
piece of cookery. highly recommended.


David Lum wrote:

I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once took 
a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.

Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:11 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

Hahaha...+1

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men that 
do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook, but I 
would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, 
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a fantastic 
cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all that 
goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many chicks 
seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the very least 
computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept saying, 
"I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f


https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn


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RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Webster]

Did you get any ham to go with your Green Egg? :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Subject: Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
> 
> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so frustrating.
i
> also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas to justify the
> purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly
> recommended.


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RE: wiping drives in a RAID

[VIPCS]

But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of data.
Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able to
recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.

While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
against? 

Sincerely,
 
Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS
 
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
more satisfaction and stress relief.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
sensitive info, just controller data.
What specific errors are you getting?

Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the back
I use:)
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wiping drives in a RAID

We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.

Specifics:

Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.  

We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.

What do you guys use in this type of scenario?

Thanks,

Joe



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OT: What you see ISN'T necessarily what you get...

[Roger Wright]

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/cityofate/2010/12/fast_food_burger_ads_vs_realit.php


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Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Roger Wright]

I doubt it meets DoD standards, but I've used one of these for years on all
discarded drives.  It consistently removes any partitions, formatting, and
scambles the data.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-LARGE-Bulk-Tape-Eraser-44-233A-BOX-MANUAL-/360319177434


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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, VIPCS  wrote:

> But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of data.
> Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able to
> recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
> mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.
>
> While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
> really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
> against?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> VIPCS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
> more satisfaction and stress relief.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
> sensitive info, just controller data.
> What specific errors are you getting?
>
> Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the
> back
> I use:)
> jlc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
> new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.
>
> Specifics:
>
> Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.
>
> We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
> don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
> talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.
>
> What do you guys use in this type of scenario?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
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RE: wiping drives in a RAID

[VIPCS]

There are DoD standards for degaussers, since degaussing is an approved
method for wiping drives.  However, as you say, the Radio Shack product
probably does not meet those standards!

 

Sincerely,

 

Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris

VIPCS

 

  _  

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: wiping drives in a RAID

 

I doubt it meets DoD standards, but I've used one of these for years on all
discarded drives.  It consistently removes any partitions, formatting, and
scambles the data.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-LARGE-Bulk-Tape-Eraser-44-233A-BOX-MANUAL-/3
60319177434



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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, VIPCS  wrote:

But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of data.
Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able to
recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.

While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
against?

Sincerely,

Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS


-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
more satisfaction and stress relief.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
sensitive info, just controller data.
What specific errors are you getting?

Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the back
I use:)
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wiping drives in a RAID

We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.

Specifics:

Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.

We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.

What do you guys use in this type of scenario?

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get
flaky.
And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I
do enjoy baking, too.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so frustrating.
>  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas to justify the
> purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly
> recommended.
>
> David Lum wrote:
>
>> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once
>> took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>>
>> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Tuesday,
>> January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> Hahaha...+1
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
>> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
>> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
>> Subject: What's Your Phone?
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>>
>> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
>> that do.
>> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>>
>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
>> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook,
>> but I would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other
>> hobbies.
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, > greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
>> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a
>> fantastic cook to boot..
>>
>> Greg Sweers
>> CEO
>> ACTS360.com
>> P.O. Box 1193
>> Brandon, FL  33509
>> 813-657-0849 Office
>> 813-758-6850 Cell
>> 813-341-1270 Fax
>>
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>>
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com> michealespin...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all
>> that goes with that line of thought.
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr > cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many
>> chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.
>>
>> James
>>
>> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com>
>>
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" > >
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> >From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the
>> very least computer savvy..."
>>
>> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>
>> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>>
>> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and
>> kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong
>> with the device?
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please
>> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
>> Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" > >
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn
>>
>>
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RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Webster]

".I don't always get flaky"

 

Some of us may disagree with that statement! J

 

 

Webster

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

 

Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get
flaky.

And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I
do enjoy baking, too.


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RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Don Guyer]

Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make
biscuits...

 

J

 

I usually make mine AFTER dinner...

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

 

Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always
get flaky.

And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though
I do enjoy baking, too.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries 
wrote:

i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so
frustrating.  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a
christmas to justify the purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic
piece of cookery. highly recommended.

David Lum wrote:

I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I
once took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.

Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent:
Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

Hahaha...+1

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
excuse brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to
cook, but I would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to
other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM,
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>>
wrote:
Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a
fantastic cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all
that goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many
chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues"
mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-s
oftware.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the
very least computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and
kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was
wrong with the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please
excuse brevity & any misspellings.
- Reply message -
From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues"
mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-s
oftware.com>> 



http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-n
ielsen.html?docid=120610f


https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get
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Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Joseph Heaton]

But that also leaves the drive unuseable, right?  Unfortunately, we're passing 
these servers on to another agency, with very little budget, so I need to wipe 
the data, but leave them useable.

>>> Roger Wright  01/04/11 7:30 AM >>>
I doubt it meets DoD standards, but I've used one of these for years on all
discarded drives.  It consistently removes any partitions, formatting, and
scambles the data.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-LARGE-Bulk-Tape-Eraser-44-233A-BOX-MANUAL-/360319177434


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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, VIPCS  wrote:

> But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of data.
> Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able to
> recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
> mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.
>
> While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
> really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
> against?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> VIPCS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
> more satisfaction and stress relief.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
> sensitive info, just controller data.
> What specific errors are you getting?
>
> Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the
> back
> I use:)
> jlc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
> new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.
>
> Specifics:
>
> Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.
>
> We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
> don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
> talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.
>
> What do you guys use in this type of scenario?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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RE: Konica Minolta Drivers

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Kelli,

We use some KM devices - in fact, we just installed two new ones about 20 
minutes ago. In my past experience (5 years or so with KM, specifically), KM 
has not offered much in the way of drivers for the devices that we've acquired. 
If there isn't a 64 bit driver on their website, chances are that there won't 
be one (based on my experience, anyway).

YMMV. Good luck.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Kelli Sterley [mailto:kjsterley.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Konica Minolta Drivers

This probably isn't the correct list but I'm hoping someone else has what I 
need or can point me in the right direction.

I have a Konica Minolta BizHub 222 and I need both the 64 and 32 bit drivers 
for it.  The only thing KM has on their website is a universal driver that 
isn't worth the time it takes to download.  It can't even find my BizHub.

Any help would be great - I've tried contacting KM but they are no help at all.

KS

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RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Bah dump, bump, crash!

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From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make biscuits...

:)

I usually make mine AFTER dinner...

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get flaky.
And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I do 
enjoy baking, too.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries 
mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so frustrating.  i 
also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas to justify the 
purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly 
recommended.

David Lum wrote:
I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once took 
a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.

Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
[mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 
04, 2011 6:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

Hahaha...+1

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Maglinger, Paul" mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>>
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: What's Your Phone?
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men that 
do.
Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?

From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook, but I 
would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other hobbies.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, 
mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>>>
 wrote:
Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a fantastic 
cook to boot..

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Rod Trent 
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I thought it was because women no longer cook.

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all that 
goes with that line of thought.

--
ME2



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr 
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many chicks 
seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.

James

[1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.


- Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>>

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

>From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the very 
>least computer savvy..."

What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...

What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept 
saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with 
the device?

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.
--

RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

There's a shampoo for that...


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From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: What's Your Phone?

"...I don't always get flaky"

Some of us may disagree with that statement! :)


Webster

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get flaky.
And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I do 
enjoy baking, too.

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Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

I prefer loose tennon joinery over biscuits, thank you very much.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Don Guyer wrote:

>  Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make biscuits…
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> I usually make mine AFTER dinner…
>
>
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get
> flaky.
>
> And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I
> do enjoy baking, too.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries 
> wrote:
>
> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so frustrating.
>  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas to justify the
> purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly
> recommended.
>
> David Lum wrote:
>
> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once
> took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>
> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Tuesday,
> January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> Hahaha...+1
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
> Subject: What's Your Phone?
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>  Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook,
> but I would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other
> hobbies.
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM,  greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a
> fantastic cook to boot..
>
> Greg Sweers
> CEO
> ACTS360.com
> P.O. Box 1193
> Brandon, FL  33509
> 813-657-0849 Office
> 813-758-6850 Cell
> 813-341-1270 Fax
>
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com michealespin...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all
> that goes with that line of thought.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr  cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many
> chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.
>
> James
>
> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <
> jra...@eaglemds.com>
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> >From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the
> very least computer savvy..."
>
> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>
> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and kept
> saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong with
> the device?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
> - Reply message -
> From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
> Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
>
>
>
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120130-iphones-android-men-women-nielsen.html?docid=120610f
>
>
>
> https://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-want-a-wife-girlfriend-get.html?hpg1=bn
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> "Never make hard what you can make easy." - Fred W. Frailey
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ 

Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Jeff Bunting]

Have you checked to see if there are BIOS or PERC firmware updates for this
server?  Might correct the hardware errors.

Jeff

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Lol... I'd like to do that, but we can't destroy the drives.  This
> particular instance is giving me issues I've never seen before.
>
> If we boot the server without the DBAN CD, it will boot normally to the
> Windows login screen.  If we boot with the DBAN CD in, I get to the DBAN
> screen.  I hit Enter, to start the interactive session, DBAN starts loading
> the Linux kernal, and I get hardware error on the front panel of the server:
>  E07F0, proc 1 IERR proc 2 IERR.  These errors are pretty generic, just
> saying that there is an issue with the processors (Faulty of improperly
> installed microprocessor)
>
> >>> "Joseph L. Casale"  1/3/2011 4:04 PM >>>
>  Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
> sensitive info, just controller data.
> What specific errors are you getting?
>
> Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the
> back I use:)
> jlc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: wiping drives in a RAID
>
> We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
> new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.
>
> Specifics:
>
> Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.
>
> We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
> don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
> talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.
>
> What do you guys use in this type of scenario?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Jonathan Link]

So, are these SAS, SATA or SCSI drives?

Since you're having trouble with the RAID controller, time to consider
throwing them into a machine with the appropriate connection and clearing
them one at a time...  Not sure what your timeframe on the project is,
though.  If they're SAS or SCSI, it could be a bit more challenging to find
an appropriate machine, you might have to use the server's integrated
conrollers to do one disk at a time.  If SATA, you could setup multiple
workstations and run the DBAN in parrallel.


On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> But that also leaves the drive unuseable, right?  Unfortunately, we're
> passing these servers on to another agency, with very little budget, so I
> need to wipe the data, but leave them useable.
>
> >>> Roger Wright  01/04/11 7:30 AM >>>
>  I doubt it meets DoD standards, but I've used one of these for years on
> all
> discarded drives.  It consistently removes any partitions, formatting, and
> scambles the data.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-LARGE-Bulk-Tape-Eraser-44-233A-BOX-MANUAL-/360319177434
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> "Never make hard what you can make easy." - Fred W. Frailey
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, VIPCS  wrote:
>
> > But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of
> data.
> > Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able
> to
> > recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
> > mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.
> >
> > While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
> > really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
> > against?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> > VIPCS
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
> > more satisfaction and stress relief.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
> > sensitive info, just controller data.
> > What specific errors are you getting?
> >
> > Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the
> > back
> > I use:)
> > jlc
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
> > new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.
> >
> > Specifics:
> >
> > Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.
> >
> > We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.
>  I
> > don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
> > talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.
> >
> > What do you guys use in this type of scenario?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
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Re: wiping drives in a RAID

[Roger Wright]

Most often I use this when prepping drives for disposal.  But I have been
able to reuse some of them after re-partitioning and formatting.


Roger Wright
___

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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> But that also leaves the drive unuseable, right?  Unfortunately, we're
> passing these servers on to another agency, with very little budget, so I
> need to wipe the data, but leave them useable.
>
> >>> Roger Wright  01/04/11 7:30 AM >>>
> I doubt it meets DoD standards, but I've used one of these for years on all
> discarded drives.  It consistently removes any partitions, formatting, and
> scambles the data.
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-LARGE-Bulk-Tape-Eraser-44-233A-BOX-MANUAL-/360319177434
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> "Never make hard what you can make easy." - Fred W. Frailey
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, VIPCS  wrote:
>
> > But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of
> data.
> > Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able
> to
> > recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
> > mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.
> >
> > While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
> > really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
> > against?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
> > VIPCS
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
> > more satisfaction and stress relief.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
> > sensitive info, just controller data.
> > What specific errors are you getting?
> >
> > Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the
> > back
> > I use:)
> > jlc
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: wiping drives in a RAID
> >
> > We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
> > new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.
> >
> > Specifics:
> >
> > Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.
> >
> > We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.
>  I
> > don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
> > talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.
> >
> > What do you guys use in this type of scenario?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
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Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Bill Humphries]

i use a semi-homemade recipe...glue and a brad nailer.

Jonathan Link wrote:
> I prefer loose tennon joinery over biscuits, thank you very much.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Don Guyer  > wrote:
>
> Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make
> biscuits…
>
>  
>
> J
>
>  
>
> I usually make mine AFTER dinner…
>
>  
>
> Don Guyer
>
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>
> Devon, PA 19333
>
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com 
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
>
>  
>
> Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't
> always get flaky.
>
> And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area,
> though I do enjoy baking, too.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries
> mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
>
> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so
> frustrating.  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a
> christmas to justify the purchase of a big green egg.  it is a
> fantastic piece of cookery. highly recommended.
>
> David Lum wrote:
>
> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the
> town...I once took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>
> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> Hahaha...+1
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Maglinger, Paul"  >
> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
> Subject: What's Your Phone?
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  >
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number
> of men that do.
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
> ]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like
> to cook, but I would like to have more time in the evenings to
> devote to other hobbies.
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM,  
>  >> wrote:
> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is
> a fantastic cook to boot..
>
> Greg Sweers
> CEO
> ACTS360.com
> P.O. Box 1193
> Brandon, FL  33509
> 813-657-0849 Office
> 813-758-6850 Cell
> 813-341-1270 Fax
>
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
>  >]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com
>  >]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored",
> and all that goes with that line of thought.
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr   >> wrote:
> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.]
> which many chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't
> understand why.
>
> James
>
> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
>   >>
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  
>  

Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

Are you making hide glue or making the brads?

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> i use a semi-homemade recipe...glue and a brad nailer.
>
>
> Jonathan Link wrote:
>
> I prefer loose tennon joinery over biscuits, thank you very much.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Don Guyer wrote:
>
>>  Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make biscuits…
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> I usually make mine AFTER dinner…
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Guyer
>>
>> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>>
>> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>>
>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>>
>> Devon, PA 19333
>>
>> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>>
>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>>
>> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get
>> flaky.
>>
>> And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though I
>> do enjoy baking, too.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries 
>> wrote:
>>
>> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so frustrating.
>>  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas to justify the
>> purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly
>> recommended.
>>
>> David Lum wrote:
>>
>> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I once
>> took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>>
>> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Tuesday,
>> January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> Hahaha...+1
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
>> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
>> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
>> Subject: What's Your Phone?
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>>
>> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
>> that do.
>> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>>
>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>  Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
>> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook,
>> but I would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other
>> hobbies.
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, > greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
>> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a
>> fantastic cook to boot..
>>
>> Greg Sweers
>> CEO
>> ACTS360.com
>> P.O. Box 1193
>> Brandon, FL  33509
>> 813-657-0849 Office
>> 813-758-6850 Cell
>> 813-341-1270 Fax
>>
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>>
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com> michealespin...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all
>> that goes with that line of thought.
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr > cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many
>> chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.
>>
>> James
>>
>> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com>
>>
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" > >
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> >From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the
>> very least computer savvy..."
>>
>> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>
>> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>>
>> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and
>> kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong
>> with the device?
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is). Please
>> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Roger Wright" mailto:rhw...@gmail.com>>
>> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm
>> Subject: OT: What's Your Phone?
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/

Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Bill Humphries]

neither. just really easy joinery.

Jonathan Link wrote:
> Are you making hide glue or making the brads?
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bill Humphries  > wrote:
>
> i use a semi-homemade recipe...glue and a brad nailer.
>
>
> Jonathan Link wrote:
>> I prefer loose tennon joinery over biscuits, thank you very much.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Don Guyer
>> mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make
>> biscuits…
>>
>>  
>>
>> J
>>
>>  
>>
>> I usually make mine AFTER dinner…
>>
>>  
>>
>> Don Guyer
>>
>> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>>
>> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>>
>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>>
>> Devon, PA 19333
>>
>> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>>
>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>>
>> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com 
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I
>> don't always get flaky.
>>
>> And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother
>> area, though I do enjoy baking, too.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries
>> mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote:
>>
>> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so
>> frustrating.  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents
>> and a christmas to justify the purchase of a big green egg.
>>  it is a fantastic piece of cookery. highly recommended.
>>
>> David Lum wrote:
>>
>> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the
>> town...I once took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>>
>> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
>> ] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011
>> 6:11 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> Hahaha...+1
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is)
>> Droid. Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Maglinger, Paul" > >
>> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
>> Subject: What's Your Phone?
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>> > >
>>
>> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
>> number of men that do.
>> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>>
>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
>> ]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
>> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I
>> like to cook, but I would like to have more time in the
>> evenings to devote to other hobbies.
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM,
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus
>> she is a fantastic cook to boot..
>>
>> Greg Sweers
>> CEO
>> ACTS360.com
>> P.O. Box 1193
>> Brandon, FL  33509
>> 813-657-0849 Office
>> 813-758-6850 Cell
>> 813-341-1270 Fax
>>
>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com
>> > >]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>>
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com
>> > >]
>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be
>> bored", and all that goes with

Re: OT: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

Well, then can you call it semi-homemade then?!

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> neither. just really easy joinery.
>
>
> Jonathan Link wrote:
>
> Are you making hide glue or making the brads?
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:
>
>> i use a semi-homemade recipe...glue and a brad nailer.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Link wrote:
>>
>> I prefer loose tennon joinery over biscuits, thank you very much.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Don Guyer wrote:
>>
>>>  Watch the New Yankee Workshop if you need to know how to make biscuits…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I usually make mine AFTER dinner…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Guyer
>>>
>>> Systems Engineer - Information Services
>>>
>>> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
>>>
>>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>>>
>>> Devon, PA 19333
>>>
>>> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>>>
>>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>>>
>>> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:37 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: OT: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Biscuits flummox a lot of people.  I can make 'em, but I don't always get
>>> flaky.
>>>
>>> And, you're diverging into baking, which is a whole 'nother area, though
>>> I do enjoy baking, too.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bill Humphries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> i enjoy cooking.  i'm still flummoxed by biscuits though.  so
>>> frustrating.  i also skipped a couple of birthday presents and a christmas
>>> to justify the purchase of a big green egg.  it is a fantastic piece of
>>> cookery. highly recommended.
>>>
>>> David Lum wrote:
>>> I can cook - Kraft Mac n Cheese, frozen pizza, dinner on the town...I
>>> once took a leap and cooked fettuccini, lol.
>>>
>>> Of my circle of friends I know more guys that cook than don't.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent:
>>> Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:11 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>> Hahaha...+1
>>>
>>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>>
>>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
>>> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Maglinger, Paul" 
>>> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:08 am
>>> Subject: What's Your Phone?
>>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>>>
>>> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
>>> that do.
>>> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>>>
>>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>>  Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:14 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>> I love my nightly meals, too.  I make 'em.
>>> I sometimes wish my wife would cook.  Don't get me wrong, I like to cook,
>>> but I would like to have more time in the evenings to devote to other
>>> hobbies.
>>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:12 PM, >> greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>> wrote:
>>> Shhh..  Don't tell me wife.  I love my nightly meals.  Plus she is a
>>> fantastic cook to boot..
>>>
>>> Greg Sweers
>>> CEO
>>> ACTS360.com
>>> P.O. Box 1193
>>> Brandon, FL  33509
>>> 813-657-0849 Office
>>> 813-758-6850 Cell
>>> 813-341-1270 Fax
>>>
>>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> rodtr...@myitforum.com>]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
>>>
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>> I thought it was because women no longer cook.
>>>
>>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> michealespin...@gmail.com>]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:27 PM
>>>
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>> I find its because women increasingly "cant stand to be bored", and all
>>> that goes with that line of thought.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ME2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, James Kerr >> cluster...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Male owners of iPhones are also more likely to be a metro[1.] which many
>>> chicks seem to be into these days, though I can't understand why.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> [1.] I said more likely but not necessarily.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" <
>>> jra...@eaglemds.com>
>>>
>>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" >> >
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:15 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>>>
>>> >From the second article."Having an iPhone suggests users are at the
>>> very least computer savvy..."
>>>
>>> What the ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>>
>>> My (albeit somewhat limited) experience points to the contrary...
>>>
>>> What was that cartoon where the end user kept asking for an iPhone and
>>> kept saying, "I don't care" to every comment that pointed out what was wrong
>>> with the device?
>>>
>>> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>>
>>> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (a

RE: What's Your Phone?

[Charlie Kaiser]

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***  


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> 
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
> 
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Steve Ens]

I'd like to see your smoked pork shoulder.  Recipe that is.  I make a mean
batch as well. We could have NT list cookoff.  Stu, will Sunbelt sponsor
something like this?

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Charlie Kaiser
wrote:

> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

HmmmI have a buddy or two that would take you up on that challenge. I live 
about 20 minutes from Lexington, NC.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone? [ot]

[Michael B. Smith]

Back before i-85 became business i-85 near lexington, there was a small bbq 
shack just off the first Lexington exit (heading south) that made (IMO) the 
best carolina bbq in the world. I can't remember its name though.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

HmmmI have a buddy or two that would take you up on that challenge. I live 
about 20 minutes from Lexington, NC.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
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-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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***


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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
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> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of 
> men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Sean Rector]

I'm installing System Center Operations Manager 2007 R2 and I'm trying
to get it to connect to my existing SQL 2008 server, but it won't create
a db (it doesn't ask for login info at all).  I created a db, and it
says the db must be upgraded.  Ideas?

 

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RE: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Michael B. Smith]

Did you give the user installing scom sysadmin privileges on the sql server? Or 
at least dbo on the db you created?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

I'm installing System Center Operations Manager 2007 R2 and I'm trying to get 
it to connect to my existing SQL 2008 server, but it won't create a db (it 
doesn't ask for login info at all).  I created a db, and it says the db must be 
upgraded.  Ideas?

Sean Rector, MCSE

Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association

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Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[John Cook]

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Sean Rector]

Yes...already was a SysAdm on the server.  I think I've found the
problem - thought R2 was a full install, looks like the w/ SP1 disc is
what I needed first...

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

 

Did you give the user installing scom sysadmin privileges on the sql
server? Or at least dbo on the db you created?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

 

I'm installing System Center Operations Manager 2007 R2 and I'm trying
to get it to connect to my existing SQL 2008 server, but it won't create
a db (it doesn't ask for login info at all).  I created a db, and it
says the db must be upgraded.  Ideas?

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

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Virginia Opera Association 

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RE: wiping drives in a RAID

[Maglinger, Paul]

That response was partially tongue-in-cheek.  We have a statement of 
destruction from our recycling company for drives from systems with sensitive 
data.

-Original Message-
From: VIPCS [mailto:vi...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

But that is not a satisfactory solution for ensuring non-recovery of data.
Jeffrey once met some Air Force forensics experts who claimed to be able to
recover data from hard drive magnetic platters that had been physically
mangled and missing substantial segments of the platters.

While that action might eliminate casual data recovery, the question is
really:  What is the level of data recovery that you want to protect
against? 

Sincerely,
 
Jeffrey and Mary Jane Harris
VIPCS
 
-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

One of our sys admins uses a .45 and a .223.  I think our method provides
more satisfaction and stress relief.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 6:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wiping drives in a RAID

Dban won't get to the metadata parts of the drive, but those don't store
sensitive info, just controller data.
What specific errors are you getting?

Bottom line, if the data is sensitive, I have two 50 ton presses in the back
I use:)
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: wiping drives in a RAID

We have some servers that we are going to survey, and they will go find a
new home.  We want to wipe the drives before we send them out.

Specifics:

Dell Poweredge 2850s, with RAID 5.  

We have DBAN, but we're getting hardware errors when we try to start it.  I
don't know if DBAN would see the drives anyway, as I don't think it would
talk to the RAID controller, to be able to see the drives.

What do you guys use in this type of scenario?

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Richard Stovall]

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French
guys.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:

> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[John Cook]

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Eldridge, Dave]

Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!

++1 on the Green Egg.
I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is dessert.
Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
Wood fired pizza.
The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is priceless.
This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the different dry 
rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never knew there were so many 
around the world that create different flavors.
Damn good stuff.


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Michael B. Smith]

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Richard Stovall]

:)

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Jim Holmgren]

+1 on chief cook and bottle washer in the household.  

Made a nice standing rib roast and Yorkshire pudding for dinner on Sunday along 
with some baked potatoes and asparagus.   Mm...I love cooking, but really 
wouldn't want to be forced to do it to make a living.

Say...can I trade that Steak Diane for a nice Steak au Poivre?   Not that I'm 
opposed to Steak Diane...  :-)


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201 
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: Small/Mid Firewall?

[Kramer, Jack]

Definitely been in your shoes – my first SSG-5 is a little over a year and a 
half old now and setting that thing up was an experience to end all 
experiences. You may benefit from trying it on the command line – simple 
policies make a lot more sense written out. Also swing for Tier-2 support as 
the Tier-1 people vary wildly in quality.

If you're still having problems make sure you try another firmware version for 
the device – I had ipsec issues with the client who got the device for about a 
month until I tried one of the later releases and then poof, all fixed 
overnight.


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: Ben Schorr mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:41:35 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

Well I think part of the frustration is that appears that to create a simple 
port forward that sends all incoming traffic on a specific port to an internal 
server (for example) requires 17 different “policies” and “interfaces” and 
“zones”.  I’m exaggerating a bit, yes, but the Juniper seems very powerful and 
ridiculously complex.  We’re not trying to do anything fancy and it’s taken 
more than 2 days to get it even half working and that’s with more than an hour 
of a Juniper support engineer remoting into it and working on it themselves.

The old SnapGear 580s (before McAfee bought SnapGear at least) could be set up 
for this in 15 minutes or so.  Even a newbie could figure out how to set up a 
basic port forward fairly quickly.

I suspect we’ll like the Juniper…once we get a thousand pages or so deeper into 
the documentation and figure out how to actually make the damned thing do 
anything useful.

We have one IPSEC tunnel created with it (created by the Juniper engineer).  
The dashboard on the “Home” Screen says it’s “Inactive/Unused” but the VPN 
monitor lists it as “Active”.   Ummm….o.k.

This morning my day started with a phone call from one of the local users 
telling me they can’t even get on the web.  Good grief.

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

I agree with Andrew … I’ve been configuring the Juniper ‘screens for years now, 
including the 5GT and SSG 5 that replaced it.
Granted, the Juniper is very different from a Cisco PIX/ASA firewall, and 
different from Checkpoint.
I wonder if extensive knowledge of some other brand of firewall is what is 
causing your minions problems with the Juniper.

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Ben Schorr 
[mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

Well, to be fair *I* haven’t looked at it yet myself.  It’s been in the hands 
of two of my junior people; at least one of whom is generally very capable and 
has deployed several other firewall/routers of other vendors in the past.  But 
he’s spent the better part of all day trying to get the Juniper working and 
finally has resorted to having Juniper tech support remote in and try to get it 
working.

Apparently even the Juniper support person has spent quite a bit of time 
wrestling with it to only mixed results.  It gives me some pause that even a 
Juniper support engineer would struggle with getting this unit configured.  But 
I’ve still got 2200 more pages of the manual to read so…


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com
b...@rolandschorr.com

From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 8:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small/Mid Firewall?

Really?  IPSec VPNs are one of the easiest things to configure on those devices.

In fairness, however, I've been using Netscreen devices since Feb 2000, so that 
might simply be familiarity talking.

The VPN wizard is very straightforward



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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Steve Ens]

More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is this
the answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill or
supplement it?

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave  wrote:

> Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!
>
> ++1 on the Green Egg.
> I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is dessert.
> Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
> 8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
> 12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
> Wood fired pizza.
> The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is priceless.
> This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the different dry
> rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never knew there were so many
> around the world that create different flavors.
> Damn good stuff.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

The dish is challenging here in the states, because it's tough to find a
rooster at your local megamart.  You need a tough old bird that can stand up
to all the boiling.  If you have access to a farm/chickens/rooster.
Roasting chickens available to most consumers can't take the boiling and are
designed to be tender with roasting, something that rooster above would
never be without the long cooking time.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[John Cook]

Steak Au Poivre is one of those things that looks easy but is difficult to get 
right, Black and Blue would be the ideal temp. I always referred to myself as 
the Executive Dishwasher (in a real kitchen - not those fake ones on TV) 
everyone has to wash dishes sometimes.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1 on chief cook and bottle washer in the household.

Made a nice standing rib roast and Yorkshire pudding for dinner on Sunday along 
with some baked potatoes and asparagus.   Mm...I love cooking, but really 
wouldn't want to be forced to do it to make a living.

Say...can I trade that Steak Diane for a nice Steak au Poivre?   Not that I'm 
opposed to Steak Diane...  :-)


Jim Holmgren
Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
XLHealth Corporation
The Warehouse at Camden Yards
351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Bret I. Omdal]

http://www.biggreenegg.com/

 

Welcome to the Big Green Egg, the Original American Designed Ceramic Cooker. 
Derived from an ancient clay cooker called a "kamado," the modern Big Green Egg 
has undergone many improvements since it was introduced in 1974. Especially 
significant is replacement of the clay used in early models with durable 
space-age ceramics developed specifically for Big Green Egg to make the EGG® 
virtually indestructible under ordinary cooking conditions.

 

J

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

 

More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is this the 
answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill or supplement it?

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave  wrote:

Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!

++1 on the Green Egg.
I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is dessert.
Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
Wood fired pizza.
The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is priceless.
This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the different dry 
rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never knew there were so many 
around the world that create different flavors.
Damn good stuff.



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
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> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
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>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Eldridge, Dave]

Biggreenegg.com

My opinion it supplements it. For hamburgers and the like it is easier to just 
gas them.

 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

 

More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is this the 
answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill or supplement it?

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave  wrote:

Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!

++1 on the Green Egg.
I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is dessert.
Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
Wood fired pizza.
The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is priceless.
This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the different dry 
rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never knew there were so many 
around the world that create different flavors.
Damn good stuff.



-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

[Ben Schorr]

Looks like we've got it settled now - there are one or two little
things.  We'd like to be able to tweak the IPSEC tunnel to improve VOIP
performance across it for example.  But otherwise I think we've got it
all working for the basic services.  Definitely a LOT to learn though.

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

 

From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:19
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small/Mid Firewall?

 

Definitely been in your shoes - my first SSG-5 is a little over a year
and a half old now and setting that thing up was an experience to end
all experiences. You may benefit from trying it on the command line -
simple policies make a lot more sense written out. Also swing for Tier-2
support as the Tier-1 people vary wildly in quality.

 

If you're still having problems make sure you try another firmware
version for the device - I had ipsec issues with the client who got the
device for about a month until I tried one of the later releases and
then poof, all fixed overnight.

 


Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

 

From: Ben Schorr 
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:41:35 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

 

Well I think part of the frustration is that appears that to
create a simple port forward that sends all incoming traffic on a
specific port to an internal server (for example) requires 17 different
"policies" and "interfaces" and "zones".  I'm exaggerating a bit, yes,
but the Juniper seems very powerful and ridiculously complex.  We're not
trying to do anything fancy and it's taken more than 2 days to get it
even half working and that's with more than an hour of a Juniper support
engineer remoting into it and working on it themselves.

 

The old SnapGear 580s (before McAfee bought SnapGear at least)
could be set up for this in 15 minutes or so.  Even a newbie could
figure out how to set up a basic port forward fairly quickly.

 

I suspect we'll like the Juniper...once we get a thousand pages
or so deeper into the documentation and figure out how to actually make
the damned thing do anything useful.  

 

We have one IPSEC tunnel created with it (created by the Juniper
engineer).  The dashboard on the "Home" Screen says it's
"Inactive/Unused" but the VPN monitor lists it as "Active".
Ummmo.k.

 

This morning my day started with a phone call from one of the
local users telling me they can't even get on the web.  Good grief.

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com  
b...@rolandschorr.com  

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

 

I agree with Andrew ... I've been configuring the Juniper
'screens for years now, including the 5GT and SSG 5 that replaced it.

Granted, the Juniper is very different from a Cisco PIX/ASA
firewall, and different from Checkpoint.

I wonder if extensive knowledge of some other brand of firewall
is what is causing your minions problems with the Juniper.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

 

Well, to be fair *I* haven't looked at it yet myself.  It's been
in the hands of two of my junior people; at least one of whom is
generally very capable and has deployed several other firewall/routers
of other vendors in the past.  But he's spent the better part of all day
trying to get the Juniper working and finally has resorted to having
Juniper tech support remote in and try to get it working.  

 

Apparently even the Juniper support person has spent quite a bit
of time wrestling with it to only mixed results.  It gives me some pause
that even a Juniper support engineer would struggle with getting this
unit configured.  But I've still got 2200 more pages of the manual to
read so...

 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
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www.rolandschorr.com 

RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[John Cook]

Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: Any Cisco ASA experts here?

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

Any takers before I resort to calling the consultants on this?
Shoot me an email direct if you can spare 10-15 mins, thanks!

(Also can't even get into the web interface via https for some reason, or
ADSM, for management purposes...)


-Original Message-
From: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Any Cisco ASA experts here?

I'm stuck on an issue with getting VPN working on my Cisco ASA.  It was
previously working... Now broke.  Anyone willing to contact me offline to
help me out for 10 minutes or so?  Rather not post the information
publically here due to security reasons.  I can't seem to get VPN working
for either the Cisco VPN Client or the Web Client.   Send an email direct,
thanks.

J





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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Michael B. Smith]

The only French food I like is French fries. ☺ I’ve tried French food several 
times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.

I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron 
Chef” or “Chopped” guy.

That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no 
problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: Any Cisco ASA experts here?

[Erik Goldoff]

your system had any recent java updates ?  I keep an old Windows 2000
virtual PC with original IE 5 to maintain ability to connect to PDM and ASDM

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
wrote:

> Any takers before I resort to calling the consultants on this?
> Shoot me an email direct if you can spare 10-15 mins, thanks!
>
> (Also can't even get into the web interface via https for some reason, or
> ADSM, for management purposes...)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesse Rink [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Any Cisco ASA experts here?
>
> I'm stuck on an issue with getting VPN working on my Cisco ASA.  It was
> previously working... Now broke.  Anyone willing to contact me offline to
> help me out for 10 minutes or so?  Rather not post the information
> publically here due to security reasons.  I can't seem to get VPN working
> for either the Cisco VPN Client or the Web Client.   Send an email direct,
> thanks.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[John Cook]

Well on a personal note I’m with you on DD&D but every now and then some over 
the top Haute cuisine is a nice break.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

The only French food I like is French fries. ☺ I’ve tried French food several 
times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.

I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron 
Chef” or “Chopped” guy.

That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no 
problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Steve Ens]

The duck livers are awesome if done properly.  Also poutine (LOL)...and
French toast.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food
> several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.
>
>
>
> I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron
> Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
>
>
>
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no
> problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Jonathan Link]

I've been craving foie gras lately...

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  Well on a personal note I’m with you on DD&D but every now and then some
> over the top Haute cuisine is a nice break.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:39 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food
> several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.
>
>
>
> I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron
> Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
>
>
>
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no
> problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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Re: Small/Mid Firewall?

[Andrew S. Baker]

Use QoS for the VoIP.   That should be easy enough to setup in the policy...


*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Ben Schorr  wrote:

> Looks like we’ve got it settled now – there are one or two little things.
> We’d like to be able to tweak the IPSEC tunnel to improve VOIP performance
> across it for example.  But otherwise I think we’ve got it all working for
> the basic services.  Definitely a LOT to learn though.
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:19
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Small/Mid Firewall?
>
>
>
> Definitely been in your shoes – my first SSG-5 is a little over a year and
> a half old now and setting that thing up was an experience to end all
> experiences. You may benefit from trying it on the command line – simple
> policies make a lot more sense written out. Also swing for Tier-2 support as
> the Tier-1 people vary wildly in quality.
>
>
>
> If you're still having problems make sure you try another firmware version
> for the device – I had ipsec issues with the client who got the device for
> about a month until I tried one of the later releases and then poof, all
> fixed overnight.
>
>
>
> 
> Jack Kramer
> Computer Systems Specialist
> University Relations, Michigan State University
> w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
>
>
>
> *From: *Ben Schorr 
> *Reply-To: *NT System Admin Issues 
> *Date: *Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:41:35 -0500
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues 
>
> *Subject: *RE: Small/Mid Firewall?
>
>
>
> Well I think part of the frustration is that appears that to create a
> simple port forward that sends all incoming traffic on a specific port to an
> internal server (for example) requires 17 different “policies” and
> “interfaces” and “zones”.  I’m exaggerating a bit, yes, but the Juniper
> seems very powerful and ridiculously complex.  We’re not trying to do
> anything fancy and it’s taken more than 2 days to get it even half working
> and that’s with more than an hour of a Juniper support engineer remoting
> into it and working on it themselves.
>
>
>
> The old SnapGear 580s (before McAfee bought SnapGear at least) could be set
> up for this in 15 minutes or so.  Even a newbie could figure out how to set
> up a basic port forward fairly quickly.
>
>
>
> I suspect we’ll like the Juniper…once we get a thousand pages or so deeper
> into the documentation and figure out how to actually make the damned thing
> do anything useful.
>
>
>
> We have one IPSEC tunnel created with it (created by the Juniper
> engineer).  The dashboard on the “Home” Screen says it’s “Inactive/Unused”
> but the VPN monitor lists it as “Active”.   Ummm….o.k.
>
>
>
> This morning my day started with a phone call from one of the local users
> telling me they can’t even get on the web.  Good grief.
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b...@rolandschorr.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 31, 2010 5:20 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Small/Mid Firewall?
>
>
>
> I agree with Andrew … I’ve been configuring the Juniper ‘screens for years
> now, including the 5GT and SSG 5 that replaced it.
>
> Granted, the Juniper is very different from a Cisco PIX/ASA firewall, and
> different from Checkpoint.
>
> I wonder if extensive knowledge of some other brand of firewall is what is
> causing your minions problems with the Juniper.
>
>
>
> *Erik Goldoff*
>
> *IT  Consultant*
>
> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>
> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>
> *From:* Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 31, 2010 1:16 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Small/Mid Firewall?
>
>
>
> Well, to be fair **I** haven’t looked at it yet myself.  It’s been in the
> hands of two of my junior people; at least one of whom is generally very
> capable and has deployed several other firewall/routers of other vendors in
> the past.  But he’s spent the better part of all day trying to get the
> Juniper working and finally has resorted to having Juniper tech support
> remote in and try to get it working.
>
>
>
> Apparently even the Juniper support person has spent quite a bit of time
> wrestling with it to only mixed results.  It gives me some pause that even a
> Juniper support engineer would struggle with getting this unit configured.
> But I’ve still got 2200 more pages of the manual to read so…
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben M. Schorr
> Chief Executive Officer
> __
> *Roland Schorr & Tower
> *www.rolandschorr.com
> b.

Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Daniel Rodriguez]

I am sure you could eat this French Food.

French Dinner 

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food
> several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.
>
>
>
> I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron
> Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
>
>
>
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no
> problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Don Guyer]

One of my FAV movies!

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

 

I am sure you could eat this French Food.

French Dinner  

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:

The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food several 
times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.

 

I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron 
Chef” or “Chopped” guy.

 

That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no 
problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

 

Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

 

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 

 John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

 

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Michael B. Smith]

Poutine I love. Had in in Montreal. What's not to like about French fries with 
sharp cheddar cheese and chicken gravy? Yum!

That's a very DD&D dish. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

The duck livers are awesome if done properly.  Also poutine (LOL)...and French 
toast.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
The only French food I like is French fries. :) I've tried French food several 
times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.

I'm more of a "Diners, Drive-ins & Dives" or "Good Eats" guy than an "Iron 
Chef" or "Chopped" guy.

That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no 
problems. But French just doesn't agree with my taste buds.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]



Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

Coque au vin, si vous plait.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically French 
guys.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order with 
Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser 
[mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Stephen Wimberly]

Going from memory I believe when you install SCOM with a SQL 2008 you need
to create the database first, then install SCOM.

I need to do this, but I've been putting it off!  The migration we have to
SQL 2008 has been pushed off several months so I'm not actively keeping up,
but that might point you in the right direction to search.

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RE: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Rod Trent]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2425714 

 

From: Stephen Wimberly [mailto:riverside...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

 

Going from memory I believe when you install SCOM with a SQL 2008 you need
to create the database first, then install SCOM.

 

I need to do this, but I've been putting it off!  The migration we have to
SQL 2008 has been pushed off several months so I'm not actively keeping up,
but that might point you in the right direction to search.

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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Bill Humphries]

my family refers to my smoked pork butt as "meat candy".  i usually chop 
it and they eat it off the platter like finger food.


Bill


Steve Ens wrote:
I'd like to see your smoked pork shoulder.  Recipe that is.  I make a 
mean batch as well. We could have NT list cookoff.  Stu, will Sunbelt 
sponsor something like this?  

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Charlie Kaiser 
mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org>> wrote:


+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org 
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Jonathan Link]

I really threw up in my mouth a little.



On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:14 PM, John Cook  wrote:

>  This is more of a real life scene, I miss those days!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v1mp8X6EI0&feature=fvsr
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:05 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> I am sure you could eat this French Food.
>
> French Dinner 
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
>
> The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food
> several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.
>
>
>
> I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron
> Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
>
>
>
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no
> problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
> *System Administrator*
>
> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>
> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>
> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>
> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>
> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>
>
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
> French guys.
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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RE: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

[Malcolm Reitz]

Did you run SCOM 2007 R2 Setup on the SQL Server first (just choosing to
install the database component only)?

 

 

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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:55
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Installing SC OM2007 - SQL Server question

 

I'm installing System Center Operations Manager 2007 R2 and I'm trying to
get it to connect to my existing SQL 2008 server, but it won't create a db
(it doesn't ask for login info at all).  I created a db, and it says the db
must be upgraded.  Ideas?

 

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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Man, I couldn't believe that. And I have been in the kitchens of some
Mexican Food restaurants, too. If you saw how they made those refried beans,
you would gag too!

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> I really threw up in my mouth a little.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:14 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
>>  This is more of a real life scene, I miss those days!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v1mp8X6EI0&feature=fvsr
>>
>>
>>
>>  *John W. Cook*
>>
>> *System Administrator*
>>
>> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>>
>> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>>
>> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>>
>> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>>
>> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:05 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure you could eat this French Food.
>>
>> French Dinner
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French food
>> several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an “Iron
>> Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
>>
>>
>>
>> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc. no
>> problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>>
>>
>>
>> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>>
>>
>>
>>  *John W. Cook*
>>
>> *System Administrator*
>>
>> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>>
>> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>>
>> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>>
>> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>>
>> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: What's Your Phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *John W. Cook*
>>
>> *System Administrator*
>>
>> *Partnership For Strong Families*
>>
>> *5950 NW 1st Place*
>>
>> *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>>
>> *Cell (352) 215-6944*
>>
>> *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: What's Your Phone?
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you classically
>> French guys.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>>
>> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to order
>> with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your foodie talk!
>>
>> 
>> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
>> 
>>
>>  John W. Cook
>> System Administrator
>> Partnership For Strong Families
>> 5950 NW 1st Place
>> Gainesville, Fl 32607
>> Cell (352) 215-6944
>> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>>
>> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
>> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>>
>> ***
>> Charlie Kaiser
>> charl...@golden-eagle.org
>> Kingman, AZ
>> ***
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>> >
>> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
>> that do.
>> >
>> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>>
>>
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Diskshadow Console Use

[Joseph L. Casale]

I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn't mind making my main 
script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to pipe multiple 
commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more generic for me?

Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the console 
to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it supports.

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: Diskshadow Console Use

[Michael B. Smith]

I didn't try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I write a 
DSH script.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Diskshadow Console Use

I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn't mind making my main 
script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to pipe multiple 
commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more generic for me?

Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the console 
to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it supports.

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Bill Humphries]

It is the answer.

It is a smoker, grill and convection oven all wrapped up together.  
There may be a bit of a learning curve getting the temps right, but once 
you that clicks, you are set.  Also, a nice investment is one of these 
electric starters.  It takes all the hassle of charcoal-starting out of 
the equation.


http://www.amazon.com/Char-Broil-2984810-Electric-Charcoal-Starter/dp/B0001B50BM

I've done all kinds of pig, cow and lamb parts, as well as pizza, 
veggies, etc.  My brother-in-law has a crappy oven incapable of baking 
in their house and he has actually baked brownies and cakes in the egg.


It is also super efficient with charcoal for the low and slow cooking.  
If you do things just right, you can smoke a couple of butts for 12 
hours without ever adding any additional charcoal.


Bill

Steve Ens wrote:
More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is 
this the answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill 
or supplement it?


On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave > wrote:


Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!

++1 on the Green Egg.
I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is
dessert.
Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
Wood fired pizza.
The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is
priceless.
This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the
different dry rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never
knew there were so many around the world that create different
flavors.
Damn good stuff.


-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org
]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to
order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with
your foodie talk!


I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs
experience


 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?

+1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org 
Kingman, AZ
***


> -Original Message-
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
number of men
that do.
>
> Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?



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RE: Diskshadow Console Use

[Joseph L. Casale]

Thanks Michael,
In that case, I'll obviously give up:)
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Diskshadow Console Use

I didn't try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I write a 
DSH script.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Diskshadow Console Use

I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn't mind making my main 
script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to pipe multiple 
commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more generic for me?

Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the console 
to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it supports.

Thanks!
jlc

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OTish Security Conference

[Kennedy, Jim]

There is a new security conference on the horizon that might be of interest to 
some of you. Disclaimer: My son is one of three principles putting it together, 
so this email was pre-cleared with Stu to avoid any concerns. He felt it was on 
topic.

It's focus is going to be more on the other side of the screen, more offensive 
than defensive. But having used his tools, and those of the other people that 
will be there I can say it is a good way of approaching security. Know how you 
are going to get owned and then mitigate that, rather than following 'best 
practices'. Having and knowing tools like Metasploit, Backtrack and Fast-Track 
can make you your own in house security consultant at no cost.

Offensive is my son's back ground. Five years in the Marines where he developed 
their network exploitation team. Then some time on loan to the NSA and some 
foreign governments. After that he went private sector at a very good security 
consultant firm and is now the Director of Information Security at a major 
corporation that shall remain nameless. They approve of and support his outside 
efforts but don't want to make themselves a bigger target than they already 
are. He has spoken at or been the key note at every major security/white hat 
hacking convention you can name.

This is an inexpensive conference, with lots of training options available. The 
list of trainers and speakers is a who's who of the white hat community. It 
could very well be worth your time. Here is the website, the teaser video on it 
just went live yesterday.

http://derbycon.com/

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RE: Diskshadow Console Use

[Michael B. Smith]

Dude - I'm not saying it can't be done! I'm not a C# or C++ expert programmer 
and I could've just been doing it wrong.

Just sayin'...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Diskshadow Console Use

Thanks Michael,
In that case, I'll obviously give up:)
jlc

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Diskshadow Console Use

I didn't try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I write a 
DSH script.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Diskshadow Console Use

I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn't mind making my main 
script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to pipe multiple 
commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more generic for me?

Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the console 
to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it supports.

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Diskshadow Console Use

[Sean Martin]

"Just sayin'"

http://www.lssu.edu/banished/current.php :)

- Sean

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Dude – I’m not saying it can’t be done! I’m not a C# or C++ expert
> programmer and I could’ve just been doing it wrong.
>
>
>
> Just sayin’…
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:44 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Diskshadow Console Use
>
>
>
> Thanks Michael,
> In that case, I’ll obviously give upJ
> jlc
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Diskshadow Console Use
>
>
>
> I didn’t try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I
> write a DSH script.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Diskshadow Console Use
>
>
>
> I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn’t mind making my main
> script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to pipe
> multiple commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more
> generic for me?
>
>
>
> Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the
> console to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it
> supports.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
> jlc
>
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Re: Diskshadow Console Use

[Jonathan Link]

That page is "full of win."



On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:

> "Just sayin'"
>
> http://www.lssu.edu/banished/current.php :)
>
> - Sean
>
>   On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Michael B. Smith  > wrote:
>
>>  Dude – I’m not saying it can’t be done! I’m not a C# or C++ expert
>> programmer and I could’ve just been doing it wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just sayin’…
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:44 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Diskshadow Console Use
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Michael,
>> In that case, I’ll obviously give upJ
>> jlc
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:36 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Diskshadow Console Use
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn’t try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I
>> write a DSH script.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael B. Smith
>>
>> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>>
>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
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>> *Subject:* Diskshadow Console Use
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn’t mind making my main
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>> multiple commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be more
>> generic for me?
>>
>>
>>
>> Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the
>> console to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it
>> supports.
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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[RichardMcClary]

Well, "french fries" come from Belgium.

Eating them "their way", with mayonaise, tends to make _me_ gag!
--
richard

Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 01/04/2011 01:05:18 PM:

> I am sure you could eat this French Food.
> 
> French Dinner

> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith  > wrote:
> The only French food I like is French fries. J I?ve tried French 
> food several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me 
gag.
>  
> I?m more of a ?Diners, Drive-ins & Dives? or ?Good Eats? guy than an
> ?Iron Chef? or ?Chopped? guy.
>  
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc.
> no problems. But French just doesn?t agree with my taste buds.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>  
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
>  
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>  
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
>  
> 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>  
> Coque au vin, si vous plait.
>  
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>  
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>  
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you 
> classically French guys.
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to 
> order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your
> foodie talk!
> 
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs 
experience
> 
> 
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> 
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
> 
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of 
men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
> 
> 
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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Jonathan Link]

You'd probably feel different if it wasn't mayonnaise out of a jar, but
freshly prepared.

The egg recall scared me off making it fresh, though...

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:07 PM,  wrote:

>
> Well, "french fries" come from Belgium.
>
> Eating them "their way", with mayonaise, tends to make _me_ gag!
> --
> richard
>
> Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 01/04/2011 01:05:18 PM:
>
>
> > I am sure you could eat this French Food.
> >
> > French Dinner
>
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith  > > wrote:
> > The only French food I like is French fries. J I’ve tried French
> > food several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me
> gag.
> >
> > I’m more of a “Diners, Drive-ins & Dives” or “Good Eats” guy than an
> > “Iron Chef” or “Chopped” guy.
> >
> > That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc.
> > no problems. But French just doesn’t agree with my taste buds.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
> >
> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
> >
> > Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith?
> >
> >  John W. Cook
> > System Administrator
> > Partnership For Strong Families
> > 5950 NW 1st Place
> > Gainesville, Fl 32607
> > Cell (352) 215-6944
> > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> >
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]
> >
> > 
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith
> > Consultant and Exchange MVP
> > http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
> >
> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > Coque au vin, si vous plait.
> >
> >  John W. Cook
> > System Administrator
> > Partnership For Strong Families
> > 5950 NW 1st Place
> > Gainesville, Fl 32607
> > Cell (352) 215-6944
> > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> >
> > From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you
> > classically French guys.
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> > I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to
> > order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your
> > foodie talk!
> >
> > 
> > I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs
> experience
> > 
> >
> >  John W. Cook
> > System Administrator
> > Partnership For Strong Families
> > 5950 NW 1st Place
> > Gainesville, Fl 32607
> > Cell (352) 215-6944
> > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> > shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
> >
> > ***
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
> > Kingman, AZ
> > ***
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> > >
> > > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of
> men
> > that do.
> > >
> > > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Scot Parsons]

I cook my pigs in a box. 

http://lacajachina.com/



-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

my family refers to my smoked pork butt as "meat candy".  i usually chop it and 
they eat it off the platter like finger food.

Bill


Steve Ens wrote:
> I'd like to see your smoked pork shoulder.  Recipe that is.  I make a 
> mean batch as well. We could have NT list cookoff.  Stu, will Sunbelt 
> sponsor something like this?
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Charlie Kaiser 
> mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org>> wrote:
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org 
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
> ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
> number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[RichardMcClary]

Kid - "I asked for salad cream"

Basil - "This is mayonaise, freshly made!"

Kid - "It's puke is what it is!"

Basil - "Yes, but it's FRESH puke!"




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You'd probably feel different if it wasn't mayonnaise out of a jar, but 
freshly prepared.
 
The egg recall scared me off making it fresh, though...

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:07 PM,  wrote:

Well, "french fries" come from Belgium. 

Eating them "their way", with mayonaise, tends to make _me_ gag! 
-- 
richard 

Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 01/04/2011 01:05:18 PM: 


> I am sure you could eat this French Food.
> 
> French Dinner

> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith  > wrote: 
> The only French food I like is French fries. J I?ve tried French 
> food several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me 
gag. 
>   
> I?m more of a ?Diners, Drive-ins & Dives? or ?Good Eats? guy than an
> ?Iron Chef? or ?Chopped? guy. 
>   
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc.
> no problems. But French just doesn?t agree with my taste buds. 
>   
> Regards, 
>   
> Michael B. Smith 
> Consultant and Exchange MVP 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>   
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT] 
>   
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith? 
>   
>  John W. Cook 
> System Administrator 
> Partnership For Strong Families 
> 5950 NW 1st Place 
> Gainesville, Fl 32607 
> Cell (352) 215-6944 
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 
>   
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT] 
>   
>  
>   
> Regards, 
>   
> Michael B. Smith 
> Consultant and Exchange MVP 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>   
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? 
>   
> Coque au vin, si vous plait. 
>   
>  John W. Cook 
> System Administrator 
> Partnership For Strong Families 
> 5950 NW 1st Place 
> Gainesville, Fl 32607 
> Cell (352) 215-6944 
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 
>   
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? 
>   
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you 
> classically French guys. 
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook  wrote: 
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to 
> order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your
> foodie talk!
> 
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs 
experience
> 
> 
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> 
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
> 
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of 
men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
> 
> 
> 
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RE: What's Your Phone? [OT]

[Damien Solodow]

It's not his Fawlt...

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.217.6851 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:15 PM
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Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? [OT]

 


Kid - "I asked for salad cream" 

Basil - "This is mayonaise, freshly made!" 

Kid - "It's puke is what it is!" 

Basil - "Yes, but it's FRESH puke!"




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You'd probably feel different if it wasn't mayonnaise out of a jar, but freshly 
prepared. 
  
The egg recall scared me off making it fresh, though...

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:07 PM,  wrote: 

Well, "french fries" come from Belgium. 

Eating them "their way", with mayonaise, tends to make _me_ gag! 
-- 
richard 

Daniel Rodriguez mailto:drod...@gmail.com> > wrote on 
01/04/2011 01:05:18 PM: 


> I am sure you could eat this French Food.
> 
> French Dinner 

> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Michael B. Smith   
> > wrote: 
> The only French food I like is French fries. J I've tried French 
> food several times, including in Montreal and Paris. It tends to make me gag. 
>   
> I'm more of a "Diners, Drive-ins & Dives" or "Good Eats" guy than an
> "Iron Chef" or "Chopped" guy. 
>   
> That being said, I can eat Irish/Scottish/British/Greek/Turkish/etc.
> no problems. But French just doesn't agree with my taste buds. 
>   
> Regards, 
>   
> Michael B. Smith 
> Consultant and Exchange MVP 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com   
>   
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org  ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:26 PM 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT] 
>   
> Vous non parlez Francais Mssr Smith? 
>   
>  John W. Cook 
> System Administrator 
> Partnership For Strong Families 
> 5950 NW 1st Place 
> Gainesville, Fl 32607 
> Cell (352) 215-6944 
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 
>   
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com 
>  ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:13 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? [OT] 
>   
>  
>   
> Regards, 
>   
> Michael B. Smith 
> Consultant and Exchange MVP 
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com   
>   
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org  ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? 
>   
> Coque au vin, si vous plait. 
>   
>  John W. Cook 
> System Administrator 
> Partnership For Strong Families 
> 5950 NW 1st Place 
> Gainesville, Fl 32607 
> Cell (352) 215-6944 
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 
>   
> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com  ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? 
>   
> I thought cocoa van was the hardest thing to cook for you 
> classically French guys. 
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Cook   > wrote: 
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to 
> order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with your
> foodie talk!
> 
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs experience
> 
> 
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org 
>  ]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> 
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
> 
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org  
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com 
> >  ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
> 
> 
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RE: Diskshadow Console Use

[Don Guyer]

Epic and Fail are fine, if used together...

 

Anyone else looking forward to the Candace Bailey (permanent host) debut
on 1/11/11?

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Diskshadow Console Use

 

"Just sayin'"

 

http://www.lssu.edu/banished/current.php :)

 

- Sean

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:

Dude - I'm not saying it can't be done! I'm not a C# or C++ expert
programmer and I could've just been doing it wrong.

 

Just sayin'...

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com  

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:44 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Diskshadow Console Use

 

Thanks Michael,
In that case, I'll obviously give upJ
jlc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Diskshadow Console Use

 

I didn't try in 2008 R2, but I never could get that to work in 2008. I
write a DSH script.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com  

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Diskshadow Console Use

 

I have been making scripts for diskshadow but wouldn't mind making my
main script more generic, how does one use the console redirection to
pipe multiple commands into diskshadow so that the main script could be
more generic for me?

 

Using /s requires me to write out a dsh script first, I want to use the
console to send the series of commands to it which it looks like it
supports.

 

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: Konica Minolta Drivers

[Kelli Sterley]

Thanks John ... I have reluctantly been trying the universal print driver
for both my print server and the clients but now I keep getting this error
when a TS client tries to print:

"Only users who have administrative privlieges can use this printer driver.
It is necessary to add the printer to the printer folder with administrator
privileges to enable the limited user's using."

Googling hasn't turned up much of anything.  Has anyone else seen this error
before?
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Kelli,
>
>
>
> We use some KM devices – in fact, we just installed two new ones about 20
> minutes ago. In my past experience (5 years or so with KM, specifically), KM
> has not offered much in the way of drivers for the devices that we’ve
> acquired. If there isn’t a 64 bit driver on their website, chances are that
> there won’t be one (based on my experience, anyway).
>
>
>
> YMMV. Good luck.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* Kelli Sterley [mailto:kjsterley.li...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:00 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Konica Minolta Drivers
>
>
>
> This probably isn't the correct list but I'm hoping someone else has what I
> need or can point me in the right direction.
>
>
>
> I have a Konica Minolta BizHub 222 and I need both the 64 and 32 bit
> drivers for it.  The only thing KM has on their website is a universal
> driver that isn't worth the time it takes to download.  It can't even find
> my BizHub.
>
>
>
> Any help would be great - I've tried contacting KM but they are no help at
> all.
>
>
>
> KS
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RE: What's Your Phone?

[Don Guyer]

Can't.resist.this.tooeasy..

"If you do things just right, you can smoke a couple of butts for 12 hours..."

Maybe back in the day, but nowadays it's over in less than 30 minutes...

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?

It is the answer.

It is a smoker, grill and convection oven all wrapped up together.  
There may be a bit of a learning curve getting the temps right, but once 
you that clicks, you are set.  Also, a nice investment is one of these 
electric starters.  It takes all the hassle of charcoal-starting out of 
the equation.

http://www.amazon.com/Char-Broil-2984810-Electric-Charcoal-Starter/dp/B0001B50BM

I've done all kinds of pig, cow and lamb parts, as well as pizza, 
veggies, etc.  My brother-in-law has a crappy oven incapable of baking 
in their house and he has actually baked brownies and cakes in the egg.

It is also super efficient with charcoal for the low and slow cooking.  
If you do things just right, you can smoke a couple of butts for 12 
hours without ever adding any additional charcoal.

Bill

Steve Ens wrote:
> More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is 
> this the answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill 
> or supplement it?
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave  > wrote:
>
> Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!
>
> ++1 on the Green Egg.
> I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is
> dessert.
> Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
> 8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
> 12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
> Wood fired pizza.
> The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is
> priceless.
> This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the
> different dry rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never
> knew there were so many around the world that create different
> flavors.
> Damn good stuff.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org
> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to
> order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with
> your foodie talk!
>
> 
> I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs
> experience
> 
>
>  John W. Cook
> System Administrator
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
>
> +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org 
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
> ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
> number of men
> that do.
> >
> > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
>
>
>
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Re: What's Your Phone?

[Jonathan Link]

And two?  Heck, one is trouble enough...

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Don Guyer  wrote:

>
> Can't.resist.this.tooeasy..
>
> "If you do things just right, you can smoke a couple of butts for 12
> hours..."
>
> Maybe back in the day, but nowadays it's over in less than 30 minutes...
>
> Don Guyer
> Systems Engineer - Information Services
> Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
> Devon, PA 19333
> Direct: (610) 993-3299
> Fax: (610) 650-5306
> don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:38 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What's Your Phone?
>
>  It is the answer.
>
> It is a smoker, grill and convection oven all wrapped up together.
> There may be a bit of a learning curve getting the temps right, but once
> you that clicks, you are set.  Also, a nice investment is one of these
> electric starters.  It takes all the hassle of charcoal-starting out of
> the equation.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Char-Broil-2984810-Electric-Charcoal-Starter/dp/B0001B50BM
>
> I've done all kinds of pig, cow and lamb parts, as well as pizza,
> veggies, etc.  My brother-in-law has a crappy oven incapable of baking
> in their house and he has actually baked brownies and cakes in the egg.
>
> It is also super efficient with charcoal for the low and slow cooking.
> If you do things just right, you can smoke a couple of butts for 12
> hours without ever adding any additional charcoal.
>
> Bill
>
> Steve Ens wrote:
> > More info on this green egg device.  Enlighten us ignorant folk.  Is
> > this the answer to my backyard dilemna?  does it replace the gas grill
> > or supplement it?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Eldridge, Dave  > > wrote:
> >
> > Ahhh! No fair. Amateurs only!
> >
> > ++1 on the Green Egg.
> > I've had mine 5+ years and the only thing I haven't tried on it is
> > dessert.
> > Searing steaks at 700+ degrees.
> > 8 plus hours at 200 for a rack of pork ribs.
> > 12 plus hours for a brisket that kills.
> > Wood fired pizza.
> > The look on people's faces as they taste whatever I serve up is
> > priceless.
> > This thing has a cult following. I won't even mention all the
> > different dry rubs people have come up with. Lump charcoal? Never
> > knew there were so many around the world that create different
> > flavors.
> > Damn good stuff.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org
> > ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:01 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > I'll see your pork shoulder and raise you a Steak Diane Flambé to
> > order with Bananas Foster afterwards! You guys crack me up with
> > your foodie talk!
> >
> > 
> > I'm a classic French trained certified Working Chef with 18 yrs
> > experience
> > 
> >
> >  John W. Cook
> > System Administrator
> > Partnership For Strong Families
> > 5950 NW 1st Place
> > Gainesville, Fl 32607
> > Cell (352) 215-6944
> > MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
> > ]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:33 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>  > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> >
> > +1. I'm definitely the chef in the household. I'll put my smoked pork
> > shoulder and BBQ sauce up against anyone's... :-)
> >
> > ***
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > charl...@golden-eagle.org 
> > Kingman, AZ
> > ***
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com
> > ]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:07 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: What's Your Phone?
> > >
> > > I like to cook as well and continue to be surprised at the
> > number of men
> > that do.
> > >
> > > Hey Stu!  How about a recipe forum?
> >
> >
> >
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