Re: The list status

2013-05-03 Thread Jonathan Link
Yeah, but he won't own it...


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Mayo, Bill bill.m...@pittcountync.govwrote:

 I'm not sure what the problem is at this point.  A new list is setup, it
 is working better than the old one, and many (most?) folks have moved over
 to it.  Stu can simply subscribe to it if he wants.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:39 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: The list status

 Google groups?

 Is that even a listserv?

 -Original Message-
 From: Sandy [mailto:san...@knowbe4.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: re: The list status

 Hello Everyone!  My name is Sandy Vandebult and I was a long Sunbelter and
 currently work with Stu at his new company Knowbe4.  GoodNews!!  GFI has
 given the list over to Stu and the list will live on!

 We are looking at moving the list over to Google groups but I am open to
 any suggestions if anybody knows of a better way to go.


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Re: The list status

2013-05-03 Thread Jonathan Link
That's not a problem for me...
I'm just sayin.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Mayo, Bill bill.m...@pittcountync.govwrote:

  The problem being….?

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, May 03, 2013 9:55 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list status

 ** **

 Yeah, but he won't own it...

 ** **

 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Mayo, Bill bill.m...@pittcountync.gov
 wrote:

 I'm not sure what the problem is at this point.  A new list is setup, it
 is working better than the old one, and many (most?) folks have moved over
 to it.  Stu can simply subscribe to it if he wants.


 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:39 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: The list status

 Google groups?

 Is that even a listserv?

 -Original Message-
 From: Sandy [mailto:san...@knowbe4.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: re: The list status

 Hello Everyone!  My name is Sandy Vandebult and I was a long Sunbelter and
 currently work with Stu at his new company Knowbe4.  GoodNews!!  GFI has
 given the list over to Stu and the list will live on!

 We are looking at moving the list over to Google groups but I am open to
 any suggestions if anybody knows of a better way to go.


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Re: problem subscription to new list

2013-05-03 Thread Jonathan Link
Try comm...@lists.myitforum.com



On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 Anyone else having issues trying to subscribe to the new list that Rod put
 up? I send the subscription e-mail, but I've gotten no confirmation back.
 I've tried 3 times over the last 3 days with no luck. Don't see it getting
 flagged as junk, and I do get the stuff from ad...@myitforum.com without
 any issues.


  *Christopher Bodnar*
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 Architecture and Engineering Services  Tel 610-807-6459
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 christopher_bod...@glic.com


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Re: problem subscription to new list

2013-05-03 Thread Jonathan Link
Hrm.  I just did it, no problems here.  And I just saw you post a question
over there...


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 That's where it's been sent to. I get nothing back indicating acceptance
 to the list.


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 To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Date:05/03/2013 10:59 AM
 Subject:Re: problem subscription to new list
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 up? I send the subscription e-mail, but I've gotten no confirmation back.
 I've tried 3 times over the last 3 days with no luck. Don't see it getting
 flagged as junk, and I do get the stuff from 
 *ad...@myitforum.com*ad...@myitforum.comwithout any issues.

   *Christopher Bodnar*
 Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
 Architecture and Engineering Services  Tel *610-807-6459* 610-807-6459
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Re: The list?

2013-05-02 Thread Jonathan Link
Pong.

Need some popcorn...


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ping?

 Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.
 On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:

 Hesienberg’s 8-Ball says:  “Uncertain”

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

 ** **

 Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list?

 ** **

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com
 wrote:
  I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running?

   No.  We're all a figment of your imagination.

 -- Ben


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Re: The list?

2013-05-02 Thread Jonathan Link
Or he sent the email and unsubbed and is wondering why is brand new shiny
list isn't getting any traffic.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  My theory is this:

 ** **

 **1)  **He sent his email a month early by accident, it isn’t
 shutting down until the end of April.

 **2)  **He has been busy, and hasn’t seen what we have been
 saying….so he isn’t aware we are freaking out.

 ** **

 *From:* Clark, Tommy R [mailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:13 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: The list?

  ** **

 I am surprised that Stu has been silent through all of this.

 ** **

 *From:* bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [
 mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.combounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 *On Behalf Of *James Kerr
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:55 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

 ** **

 Now I have to wonder if the lists were being shutdown at all and if Stu's
 email was just a ploy to get folks over to his own list. (which he never
 left instructions on how to do)

 ** **

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Pong.

 ** **

 Need some popcorn...

 ** **

 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 Ping?

 Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.

 On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:*
 ***

 Hesienberg’s 8-Ball says:  “Uncertain”

  

 -sc

  

 *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

  

 Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list?

  

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
  I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running?

   No.  We're all a figment of your imagination.

 -- Ben


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Re: The list?

2013-05-01 Thread Jonathan Link
At the rate it delivers messages, I expect it will happen sometime next
year.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

 The listserv is still processing the list-deletion request.

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'john.c...@pfsf.org');]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: The list?

 ** **

 And so the first of a new month has come and the list still exists – I
 think we’ve been hornswaggled!

  

  *John W. Cook*

 *Network Operations Manager*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*

  

 *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:49 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

  

 True I should lean to read a calendar

 Sent from my iPad mini


 On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 We haven’t hit the end of the month yet.

  

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 *Network Operations Manager*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

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Re: The list?

2013-05-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I just cleared my backlog...


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:

  I am still getting mail from the list.  Maybe it is a back log.

 ** **

 Cheers

 Ryan

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:06 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: The list?

  ** **

 Nope it went away April 30th.

 ** **

 *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com cluster...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:01 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

 ** **

 is this thing still on?

 ** **

 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 At the rate it delivers messages, I expect it will happen sometime next
 year. 



 On Wednesday, May 1, 2013, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

   The listserv is still processing the list-deletion request.

  

 -sc

  

 *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org john.c...@pfsf.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: The list?

  

 And so the first of a new month has come and the list still exists – I
 think we’ve been hornswaggled!

  

  *John W. Cook*

 *Network Operations Manager*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

 *Cell (352) 215-6944*

 *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*

  

 *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com r...@finnesey.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:49 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: The list?

  

 True I should lean to read a calendar

 Sent from my iPad mini


 On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

  We haven’t hit the end of the month yet.

  

  *John W. Cook*

 *Network Operations Manager*

 *Partnership For Strong Families*

 *5950 NW 1st Place*

 *Gainesville, Fl 32607*

 *Office (352) 244-1610*

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Re: The list?

2013-04-30 Thread Jonathan Link
But it is webscale.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, James Rankin wrote:

 It's a new feature - manual mirroring.

 In that you post the same stuff to both.


 On 30 April 2013 18:05, Stringham, Steven sstri...@lrlaw.com wrote:

 **

 Yes, but does it automatic failover?  Is it load balanced?


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  We now have list redundancy
 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
 RELIABLY
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 *Subject: *The list?

  I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running?

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Re: So where is this new list signup?

2013-04-29 Thread Jonathan Link
I'm still here.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Link is here:

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 Thanks


 Webster


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  Subject: So where is this new list signup?
 
  The list is moving, right? (I don't get to read it every day, so I
 probably missed
  something). So do I need to go and sign up for the new home of the list,
 or
  will I be migrated over as an existing user?
 
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Re: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-29 Thread Jonathan Link
Well, this is the GFI (Sunbelt) list...
I think the KnowBe4 list is the imaginary one, right now.

It's not a math problem.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:

  Since the GFI list is as yet imaginary would it be an imaginary
 subscription?

 ** **

 *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 9:25 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

  ** **

 Also, might be nice to subscribe Rod’s list to the GFI list so all
 messages to GFI go to both places in the interim.

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com kz2...@googlemail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 10:16 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 ** **

 I think we need someone to send out an official communication to pick
 everyone up :-)

 On 29 April 2013 16:09, Pete Howard pchow...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Just joined too

 ** **

 ** **

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 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 10:41 AM 


 *Subject:* RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 ** **

 Just joined myself, appreciate it

  

 Z

  

 Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network +

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 Lifespan Organization

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 Work:401-444-9081

  

  

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 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 10:38 AM 


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

 Thank you very much Sir.

  

 *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com rodtr...@myitforum.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM 


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.



 Done.  Link is here:

  

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

  

  

 *Rod Trent* http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/
 

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 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM

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 *Subject:* RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
 



 Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there…

  

 Z

  

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 ]
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
 



 I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff.

  

 *From:* rodtr...@myitforum.com 
 [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.comrodtr...@myitforum.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
 



 I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host
 over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare.

  

 Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

  

 

Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-27 Thread Jonathan Link
Did you just top post?


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 To my mind, it's all the difference...

 Email comes to me. I see it all in my inbox, and can read and respond
 at leisure, and it all works as a normal email conversation.

 I have to go to web forums. Each one has a different interface and
 ways of working.

 Definitely prefer email.

 Kurt

 On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:
  Google Plus is web based.  I like good old email over web based.
 
 
  Sent from my iPad mini
 
  On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
  wrote:
 
  I will not use a google property for something that has a business
 purpose
  for me.
 
 
 
  I’m only one person, but I doubt I’m the only one that feels that way.
 
 
 
  From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM
 
 
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
 
 
  Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?
 
  Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600
 
 
 
  Or build our own?
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  See response below...
 
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com
 wrote:
  Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
  automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
  realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
  Gmail thing?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
  This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
  will shut down at the end of this month.
 
  GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
  I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Stu
 
  Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?
 
  You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so,
 where's
  the subscription info?
 
  Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)
 
  Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
  handler?
 
  Kurt
 
  No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
  lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
  message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
  message.
 
  It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:
 
  o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
  through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
  reply, then bounce down and read the original post
 
  o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
  easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
  thoughts in the original post(s).
 
 
  Kurt
 
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  and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
  scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the
 children
  yet unborn.
 
  And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the
 Twilight
  Zone.
 
 
 
  - Rod Serling;
 
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Re: Disk space management software

2013-04-26 Thread Jonathan Link
Windirstat


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.cawrote:

  Looking for opinions on disk space management software.  We’re getting
 low on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is
 using up the space.

 ** **

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Re: Virtualization

2013-04-26 Thread Jonathan Link
No, I think he was saying you have a lot of verve...


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 You have nerve, saying that I have nerve.

 ** **

 -sc

 ** **

 *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:32 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Virtualization

 ** **

 DOH!  You went there, ouch!  I thought only I had the nerve to do that.***
 *

 ** **

 Thanks

 ** **

 ** **

 Webster

 ** **

 *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.comscaes...@caesare.com]

 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 8:05 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Virtualization

 ** **

 I have a PDF on my SAN somewhere that addresses this.. I’ll send it with
 my Linux email client.

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Re: Disk space management software

2013-04-26 Thread Jonathan Link
+1, and it has a feature that you can run it to list the files that will be
copied to ensure you've got it setup right...


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:41 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

  Robocopy

 ** **

 Niles Parr
 Network Administrator
 Morton Industries LLC

 np...@mortonind.com
 Phone: 309-291-0231
 Cell: 309-696-5045

 ** **

 *From:* Tammy George [mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 12:03 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Disk space management software

  ** **

 Thanks everyone.  I’m downloaded Treesize and I like it!

 ** **

 Ideally, we’d like to archive all files that haven’t been accessed in the
 past 3 years.   Any pointers/tips on how to approach something like that?*
 ***

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com korl...@rogers.com]
 *Sent:* April-26-13 11:57 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Disk space management software

 ** **

 Definitely tree size. 

 ** **

 *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com stevey...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Disk space management software

 ** **

 It's not comprehensive, but treesize pro works quite well.

 ** **

 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Tammy George tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca
 wrote:

 Looking for opinions on disk space management software.  We’re getting low
 on space and would like to analyze our user data to find out what is using
 up the space.

  

 Thanks in advance!

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-26 Thread Jonathan Link
IIRC, they already did this to TJ Maxx...


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:

 So did you hand the data over to your bank the police or walk in and tell
 the manager?  I know as an underpaid public employee you would never
 consider reusing the information.  You would not be underpaid if you did.
 I would think that since this has been posted that a number of students
 (hackers in training) are out in the parking lots of supermarkets looking
 for free credit card data.

 Jon

 --
 From: kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:25:19 +

  Kurt’s paper check might be the smart way.  One of the major grocery
 chains in Cleveland sent their debit card transactions complete with the
 account number and pin in plain text via wireless from their cash
 registers.  We were grabbing them from the parking lot just sitting in our
 car.



 *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 10:16 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION



 Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except
 Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile
 device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and
 if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the
 checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand
 behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right
 to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards
 all the cool kids are using these days.



 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 See response below...


 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
  Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
  This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
  will shut down at the end of this month.
 
  GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
  I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Stu
 
  Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?
 
  You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so,
 where's the subscription info?
 
  Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)
 
  Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
 handler?
 
  Kurt

 No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
 lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
 message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
 message.

 It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

 o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
 through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
 reply, then bounce down and read the original post

 o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
 easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
 thoughts in the original post(s).


 Kurt

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Jonathan Link
No, it's a Ben9K thing.  He doesn't believe in top posting.


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
  This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
  will shut down at the end of this month.
 
  GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
  I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
 handler?

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Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Jonathan Link
You share your popcorn with anyone? :D


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@outlook.comwrote:


 You rang?  Pretty sure Lyris kills images, I'll send you some popcorn
 off-list.


  - WJR


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 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
 From: rich...@gmail.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 WJR,

 I'm kinda hungry.  You bringing popcorn to this one?


 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
 automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
 realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
 Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.
 
  This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
  will shut down at the end of this month.
 
  GFI will confirm this with a separate message.
 
  I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
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 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
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Re: LoJack

2013-04-23 Thread Jonathan Link
IIRC, you can ask Dell and pay a nominal fee for Dell to futz with BIOS
settings, but due diligence to ensure that it is Activated almost negates
the effort, since it takes as much time to check that it is activated
(unless you can see that via pre-installed software) during a workstation
setup and config.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 But it does need to be set to Activated to work, then? The default setting
 of Deactivated is useless without switching it over?

 If that's right, can you ask for them to be delivered Activated, or would
 you definitely have to at least set them up to run a certain program as you
 said?

 Cheers,


 JR

 On 23 April 2013 15:27, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  Depending on the vendor, you might be able to flip the BIOS setting by
 running an EXE. I know Dell machines can have their BIOS settings changed
 without having to physically touch each system. Takes some work but
 depending on the # of systems it might be worth looking at.

 ** **

 Dave

 ** **

 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:36 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: LoJack

 ** **

 I've looked at the various options and I've even seen a computer with the
 BIOS stuff installed, but I can't get an answer to the primary query I've
 got

  

 If the BIOS agent is set to Deactivated (rather than Disabled), do you
 need to switch it to Activated before the anti-theft features kick in, or
 can you switch it from Deactivated to Activated remotely (even if the thief
 has flattened the OS or switched hard drives, etc.)? I considered
 contacting LoJack directly but I'm wondering if they'll think I'm a crook
 trying to get around the anti-theft features :-) I'm just asking this
 because if my client buys 100+ machines with the BIOS piece installed but
 not Activated, are they looking at touching all the machines to get it
 working properly or can it be switched from Deactivated to Activated
 remotely in a theft situation?

  

 Cheers,

  

  

  

 JR

 On 23 April 2013 01:11, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:

 You might want to take a look at the Dell web site.  I believe they sell
 it as an option with their business line of laptops.  I think the BIOS part
 does all the work but I also think that the software does some
 configuration changes.

 Jon
  

  Subject: LoJack
  To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  From: kz2...@googlemail.com
  Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:01:33 + 


 
  Does anyone know if LoJack CompuTrace can be activated without the
 software installed? I am looking into this sort of software for a client
 but am not sure whether it needs to actually have the software installed or
 if the embedded BIOS feature does everything required? Their website isn't
 particularly clear about it and most Googling just turns up people
 complaining about civil liberties.
 
  TIA,
 
 
  JR
 
 
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Re: OT - Google Apps down?

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Sometimes percentages are bad.  If I'm in that .0007 fraction of people, I
wouldn't really care how small the fraction of the user base is affected.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 No, lots of people reporting being affected on Twitter-sphere

 less than 0.0007 of the user base allegedly affected, according to Google

 But Blogger is also very bad today

 Cheers,


 JR

 On 17 April 2013 14:13, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm having trouble signing into my Google Apps domain. I get a server
 error when going to my mail server alias (mail.mike-leone.com); I
 can't get to admin.google.com, to sign into my control panel (a 502
 error); trying to sign into another account from here (my regular
 gmail account) also errors out with a 502.

 Yet the mail is coming into my Android fine just fine; I can't access
 it it via any browser (Chrome, IE, Firefox) on my PC.

 Is it Just Me?

 EDIT: Ah, this Apps Status page is showing disruption in Mail (
 http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=env=statusts=1366203964961).
 So the actual mail servers must be up (if my Android phone is getting
 mail), but the front end servers providing the web interface have
 decided to take the morning off ...

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Re: Endpoint backups

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Remote users not using Citrix? :D


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

  What is there to backup that is not in a centralized location backed up
 by a centralized backup system?

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:57 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Endpoint backups

 ** **

 Do any of you guys back up all your endpoints/PC’s? We’re trying to do
 that via Tivoli but troubleshooting clients is a major PITA. It seems to be
 ok 90% of the time, but the broken ones seem to take forever to find and
 repair, and it’s not easy to automate resetting the password at the client
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Re: Endpoint backups

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Users never do anything that stupid.
Oh.
Wait.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 save their music and funny videos to the desktoptill they drop a
 2.8GB movie into their roaming profile :-)

 On 17 April 2013 17:00, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

  So the goal is to protect the orgs docs…not backup desktops.  Backup
 desktops is a method for getting to your goal.

 ** **

 Most of us would argue that redirect my docs to a server and back that up
 is a better way to get to that goal. Tell them anything on their desktop is
 subject to instantaneous loss, or redirect their desktop to the server also.
 

 ** **

 I prefer to redirect my docs and put some controls on space and file type
 on that share and let them save their music and funny videos to the
 desktop. The users get that and like the compromise.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:56 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Endpoint backups

  ** **

 Files they keep on the desktop and “My Documents”.

 ** **

 *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com webs...@carlwebster.com]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:49 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Endpoint backups

 ** **

 What is there to backup that is not in a centralized location backed up
 by a centralized backup system?

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:57 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Endpoint backups

 ** **

 Do any of you guys back up all your endpoints/PC’s? We’re trying to do
 that via Tivoli but troubleshooting clients is a major PITA. It seems to be
 ok 90% of the time, but the broken ones seem to take forever to find and
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Re: On the subject of security...

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Link
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:
  IOW: Security is for the MANAGEMENT of risk and MITIGATION of same. For
 real
  world systems, and usage of them, there is no such thing as perfect
 security.
 
That's true, too, but the point Munroe is trying to make is that a
  lot of people lose track of the forest for the trees.  They get so
  caught up in protecting the computer that they forget why they're
  protecting it.

 If that's the case, then he didn't make his point at all clear.

It was pretty clear to me, and coincidentally (or not!) his image looks
like a tree.  Nevermind the fact that most professionals are saying don't
run as admin.  OK, so they're not.  Does that mean they are protected?
 Protected from what?  Not getting a more pervasive infection, sure.  But
malware writers are dropping the .exe's in userland and doing stuff with
the data they access.  How do you protect that data, when the person who's
been infected, is the person who needs access to the data?

Thought it was pretty clear, to be honest.

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Re: On the subject of security...

2013-04-17 Thread Jonathan Link
You do that.  Do you enforce that down to your users?  All of that?
What is an untrusted source?


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Michael B. Smith
   mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
   IOW: Security is for the MANAGEMENT of risk and MITIGATION of same.
 For
   real
   world systems, and usage of them, there is no such thing as perfect
   security.
  
 That's true, too, but the point Munroe is trying to make is that a
   lot of people lose track of the forest for the trees.  They get so
   caught up in protecting the computer that they forget why they're
   protecting it.
 
  If that's the case, then he didn't make his point at all clear.
 
  It was pretty clear to me, and coincidentally (or not!) his image looks
 like
  a tree.  Nevermind the fact that most professionals are saying don't run
 as
  admin.  OK, so they're not.  Does that mean they are protected?
  Protected
  from what?  Not getting a more pervasive infection, sure.  But malware
  writers are dropping the .exe's in userland and doing stuff with the data
  they access.  How do you protect that data, when the person who's been
  infected, is the person who needs access to the data?
 
  Thought it was pretty clear, to be honest.

 Apparently I'm dense, then.

 I protect all of my accounts, privileged or not, in the same ways, and
 have been doing so for so long that it's completely natural to me. It
 just feels unnatural not to do so.

 No running executables from untrusted sources, turn off scripting in
 my browsers, view all email as plain text, no remembering/caching of
 passwords in browsers, using a unique password per web site and per
 other accounts, regular clearing of cookies, no linking of accounts
 between web sites, running current AV, no browsing with elevated
 accounts, laptops have full disk encryption, etc., etc., etc.

 Kurt

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Re: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Jonathan Link
Nicely done.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Symantec is well known to impact system performance in the same way
 malware does, so the rule stands ;-)

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 *Date: *Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:46:57 -0500
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.

 ** **

 So… No.  Too risky.

 ** **

 *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 ** **

 Clever

 Sent from my Windows Phone
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 *From: *Mark Boersma
 *Sent: *4/9/2013 10:20 AM
 *To: *NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject: *RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller
 than 500k you’ll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and
 those will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely
 works.  Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my
 attachment policy.

  

 Mark

 -

 Two rules for success in life:

 1. Never tell people everything you know.

  

  

 *From:* Mayo, Bill 
 [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.govbill.m...@pittcountync.gov]

 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

  

 We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
 special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
 appliance can’t inspect those).

  

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* .ZIP file e-mail attachments

  

 Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they
 were blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we’ve
 received infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today
 we caught it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and
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Re: OT: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?

2013-04-05 Thread Jonathan Link
They quoted Henry Blodget, it has to be wrong.

On Friday, April 5, 2013, Kurt Buff wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
 
 http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-grow-obsolete-by-2017-gartner-3206#
 
 
  Roger Wright

 That's one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time.

 I think it was published 4 days late, though.

 OTOH, if the article is serious, then consider that Gartner is about
 the least reliable predictor of anything I've seen or heard.

 Kurt

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Re: First Powershell script (Sent Securely)

2013-03-26 Thread Jonathan Link
Thanks, but no.


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 To access your message, simply follow these steps:

 1. Click on the above link.
 2. You will be prompted to create a password to protect your account.
 3. Access your Inbox to view your message.


 If you are unable to open the link, please make sure that your firewall or
 your company's security settings are not blocking the link.


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Re: Multithreaded tarbal or tar app for windows

2013-03-26 Thread Jonathan Link
Just how many LoC's are you trying to tarball?


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to tar (archive) a lot of files Long list.
 I tried 7-zip but it won't do multi threading for tar only bzip and .7zip.

 Anyone have a good suggestion?

 Regards,

 Justino Garcia

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Re: Friday semiOT: funny to me anyway

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Link
There's a word for what you just did there... :-)


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
  This day, 1995, Intel dropped the big one...
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos
 
Let's see... Pentium jokes... right...

 And the Weird Al song, It's all about the Pentiums ...

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Re: Manage JAVA updates

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Link
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml



On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:

  Where do you get the .msi?  I didn’t see that option on the website.

 ** **

 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:18 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Manage JAVA updates

 ** **

 “turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar”

 ** **

 First things first… 

 Get the offline MSI download meant for corporate installs.

 Then you can use anything your heart delights that can push MSI’s.  GPO,
 scripts, or any other of the hundreds of patching options.

 Personally using ManageEngine myself, and really liking it.  The price
 point was great. 

 ** **

 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.comtominyorkt...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2013 8:00 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Manage JAVA updates

 ** **

 Anyone have any suggestions for managing JAVA updates in a corporate
 environment?  At my last job we used the kbox as it was part of the patch
 stream, but the product I use  now does not include JAVA as part of the
 stream.  I'd like to be able to control when updates are performed, do to
 it silently, and to turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask
 toolbar.

  

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Re: Manage JAVA updates

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Link
I've always found it in
c:\users\username\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\jrever.  Where username is
the user which ran the installer.  I don't run with admin rights, so when
prompted I enter credentials for workstation administrator.  It then puts
the msi file under that account's folder in c:\users, not in my day-to-day
account.

You should be able to do a search for the msi from an elevated command
prompt, from the root of the system drive or even the users folder:  dir
jre*.msi /s found the file.



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 Sometimes you have to dig around a bit to find the msi. Its not an exact
 science IIRC

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 *Date: *Mon, 25 Mar 2013 21:00:52 +
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *RE: Manage JAVA updates

  Hmm, followed those directions, but there’s nothing in the folder under
 Appdata.

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2013 1:43 PM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Manage JAVA updates

 ** **

 http://www.java.com/en/download/help/msi_install.xml

 ** **

 ** **

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
 joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov wrote:

 Where do you get the .msi?  I didn’t see that option on the website.

  

 *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:18 AM
 *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Manage JAVA updates

  

 “turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask toolbar”

  

 First things first… 

 Get the offline MSI download meant for corporate installs.

 Then you can use anything your heart delights that can push MSI’s.  GPO,
 scripts, or any other of the hundreds of patching options.

 Personally using ManageEngine myself, and really liking it.  The price
 point was great. 

  

 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.comtominyorkt...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2013 8:00 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Manage JAVA updates

  

 Anyone have any suggestions for managing JAVA updates in a corporate
 environment?  At my last job we used the kbox as it was part of the patch
 stream, but the product I use  now does not include JAVA as part of the
 stream.  I'd like to be able to control when updates are performed, do to
 it silently, and to turn off that annoying prompt to install the Ask
 toolbar.

  

 Thanks,

 Tom

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Re: virtualization question

2013-03-22 Thread Jonathan Link
This doesn't strike me as a problem virtualization can solve, as stated.
As recommended, this is more of a Citrix or Terminal services issue and
whether you can do what you want is going to be governed by whether or not
the POS is capable of running concurrently in different sessions.  This
really should not be an issue, but you should be sure that the POS software
can do it in a Citrix or Terminal services environment.




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 using a RDP client.  However, I would like to put multiple instances of the
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Re: Internet Census 2012: Port scanning using insecure embedded devices

2013-03-20 Thread Jonathan Link
Too late...


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Today's interesting read:
 
  http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/paper.html

 I don't know whether to laugh or cry - that's really clever and really
 disappointing at the same time.

 And, it's going to be replicated, with far less benign intent, in
 about 30 seconds...

 Kurt

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Re: Java 7 patch 13 out...

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Link
Exploit to follow tomorrow, which is Groundhog Day. :-)

On Friday, February 1, 2013, S Powell wrote:

 no that's it...

 i'm off to update...


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Re: Limiting who can send all-staff e-mails

2013-01-25 Thread Jonathan Link
If they do it and management doesn't care...

On Friday, January 25, 2013, David Lum wrote:

  Nope, that already happens, and we have employees that REPLY ALL to
 those..

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 *Subject:* Re: Limiting who can send all-staff e-mails

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 Just wait till someone forwards a joke or scam report to your entire
 staff, or asks for someone to move their car. That should do it.

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 *Date: *Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:14:36 +

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 *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 

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 Does anyone have some links I can use to demonstrate to management why
 it’s a bad idea to allow any of our 600 employees to send e-mails to “all
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Re: Limiting who can send all-staff e-mails

2013-01-25 Thread Jonathan Link
And management doesn't make bad decisions?


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 It’s bad, just bad…

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 *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 9:10 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Limiting who can send all-staff e-mails

 ** **

 No links, but management here clamped down because people were sending
 personal charity, business, and “greeting cards” emails to everybody.
 That, and I brought up how easy it would be for a disgruntled employee to
 send an inappropriate message to the entire company.

 ** **

 -Paul

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 5:15 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Limiting who can send all-staff e-mails

 ** **

 Does anyone have some links I can use to demonstrate to management why
 it’s a bad idea to allow any of our 600 employees to send e-mails to “all
 staff”? 

 *David Lum*
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Re: Director and Files size utility (UNCLASSIFIED)

2013-01-22 Thread Jonathan Link
Shhh...


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 Windirstat?



 On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com
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 I currently use Treesize Pro by Jam software to check files and folders
 for size on my Windows 2003 fileserver, however it always seem to cause
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Re: dell servers

2013-01-21 Thread Jonathan Link
Ding ding.


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

 Do you want (require) support for that?

 Thanks


 Webster


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  Subject: RE: dell servers
 
  The Dell website server configurator wants $68 for a 1GB SD card, sheesh.
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Re: hakin9.org magazine

2013-01-15 Thread Jonathan Link
They only wish to raise quality of life for all species.


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 They are spammers so by definition they are thieves.
 
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 Subject: hakin9.org magazine

 Anyone know about this magazine? I got SPAM from them and it did make me
 curious so I did take a look and it looks legit, but…
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Re: smb firewall recommendation

2013-01-14 Thread Jonathan Link
I have no problem with my Sonicwalls.


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 I've got a dozen TZ series Sonicwalls across the country all connected to
 my main office.  They run great.


 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Jimmy Tran jt...@teachtci.com wrote:

 Hi All,

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 I’m in the market for a firewall for a small office with les that 15
 users.  I was looking at the Sonicwall TZ series but people are telling me
 to stay away from Sonicwall.  Has the product improved?  Any other
 recommendations.  Would like the UTM features.

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 Thanks,

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Re: Replacement for SteadyState

2013-01-07 Thread Jonathan Link
Universities are a much different beast than primary and secondary schools.

1) Logging out was part of the Acceptable Use Policy, meaning it is the
student's responsibility to log out.
2) Teachers were taught to double check that students logged out.
3) Teachers in labs, put it on their syllabus, and those who used labs
regularly but were not actually in a lab, did so, as well, to remind
students that not logging off could result in a loss of work.
4) Make sure that you give teachers some mechanism for resetting student
passwords to some default password, and unlocking the account.  This became
a huge problem in the school I worked at previously.  I had to roll my own
solution at the time.  Having a solution for this in place before you
switch over will make life so much easier.
5) Disable locking of the computer for student accounts.

I'm probably missing something, but it's been 7 years since I left that job.






On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote:

  *Yeah ... For all the universities I’ve worked at and had this
 discussion, this perceived problem has never morphed into an actual issue.
 *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com*

 * *

 *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132*

 * *

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  ** **

 ** **

 “…….. how do you handle situations where students don’t logout before they
 leave…… then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.”

 ** **

 Self-correcting problem.  Student 2 deletes all of Students 1’s stuff and
 Student 1 never does it again. With 7,000 students we have very little
 trouble with this issue actually.

 ** **

 Also we set inactivity timeouts so they auto log out.

 ** **

 I would not go with generic accounts. There is no accountability, no
 tracking of what they do….

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 10:04 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  ** **

 No on the student login.  We use a generic account per classroom.

 We’ve talked about moving to a individual student login, but I’m not sure
 we need or want that.

 For others that have gone that route, how do you handle situations where
 students don’t logout before they leave.

 You either have a locked computer, logged on as said student or if not
 locked, then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.

 ** **

 *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.combr...@briandesmond.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 9:32 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

 ** **

 *Sure so scenarios where you’re teaching classes that require changes to
 the OS to accomplish the class makes good sense and I’d not argue against a
 solution like DeepFreeze in that case.*

 * *

 *In the case of things like wallpaper and user profile stuff, are you not
 using named user accounts for your students? That solves a bunch of this on
 the spot. *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com*

 * *

 *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132*

 * *

 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

 ** **

 We teach classes and let the students make any and all changes to the
 desktop environment.

 Here’s one example.  Student comes in and sets the desktop wallpaper to
 his favorite pinup gal.  Next student doesn’t like it, but is a beginner
 and doesn’t know how to change it to something else.  Reboot and the pin up
 gal is gone.

 Also, I’ve seen some programs/apps that can now be installed without admin
 rights, Google Chrome for example.

 Not a problem with Deep Freeze.

 ** **

 I’m sure there are other ways to do this, but DeepFreeze works great in
 our environment.

 ** **

 *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.combr...@briandesmond.com]

 *Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:36 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

 ** **

 *I’ve worked at a lot of customers that use DeepFreeze and similar
 products and I’m not a huge fan of the concept in general. It makes the
 overall lifecycle maintenance of a desktop environment a heck of a lot more
 complicated.*

 * *

 *The question I always pose (and usually don’t get much of a response
 to), is “what problems/issues is DeepFreeze protecting you from that
 running as a local user wouldn’t solve?”*

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com*

 * *

 *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132*

 * *

 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2013 11:33 AM
 *To:* NT 

Re: Replacement for SteadyState

2013-01-07 Thread Jonathan Link
Oh, I did it in the school I was in, too.  I had a huge amount of
resistance that needed to be overcome.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote:

  *When I worked for a K-12 (~450K students), we issued accounts to all
 students at any school that was using our central AD. I’ve seen the same
 practice at the other K-12 districts I’ve worked at. *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com* br...@briandesmond.com**

 * *

 *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132*

 * *

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 10:12 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Replacement for SteadyState

 ** **

 Universities are a much different beast than primary and secondary schools.
 

 ** **

 1) Logging out was part of the Acceptable Use Policy, meaning it is the
 student's responsibility to log out.

 2) Teachers were taught to double check that students logged out.

 3) Teachers in labs, put it on their syllabus, and those who used labs
 regularly but were not actually in a lab, did so, as well, to remind
 students that not logging off could result in a loss of work.

 4) Make sure that you give teachers some mechanism for resetting student
 passwords to some default password, and unlocking the account.  This became
 a huge problem in the school I worked at previously.  I had to roll my own
 solution at the time.  Having a solution for this in place before you
 switch over will make life so much easier.

 5) Disable locking of the computer for student accounts.

 ** **

 I'm probably missing something, but it's been 7 years since I left that
 job.

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com
 wrote:

  *Yeah ... For all the universities I’ve worked at and had this
 discussion, this perceived problem has never morphed into an actual issue.
 *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com* br...@briandesmond.com

 * *

 *w – **312.625.1438* 312.625.1438* | c – **312.731.3132* 312.731.3132*
 ***

 * *

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  

  

 “…….. how do you handle situations where students don’t logout before they
 leave…… then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.”

  

 Self-correcting problem.  Student 2 deletes all of Students 1’s stuff and
 Student 1 never does it again. With 7,000 students we have very little
 trouble with this issue actually.

  

 Also we set inactivity timeouts so they auto log out.

  

 I would not go with generic accounts. There is no accountability, no
 tracking of what they do….

  

  

 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 10:04 AM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  

 No on the student login.  We use a generic account per classroom.

 We’ve talked about moving to a individual student login, but I’m not sure
 we need or want that.

 For others that have gone that route, how do you handle situations where
 students don’t logout before they leave.

 You either have a locked computer, logged on as said student or if not
 locked, then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.

  

 *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.combr...@briandesmond.com]

 *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 9:32 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  

 *Sure so scenarios where you’re teaching classes that require changes to
 the OS to accomplish the class makes good sense and I’d not argue against a
 solution like DeepFreeze in that case.*

 * *

 *In the case of things like wallpaper and user profile stuff, are you not
 using named user accounts for your students? That solves a bunch of this on
 the spot. *

 * *

 *Thanks,*

 *Brian Desmond*

 *br...@briandesmond.com* br...@briandesmond.com

 * *

 *w – **312.625.1438* 312.625.1438* | c – **312.731.3132* 312.731.3132*
 ***

 * *

 *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
 *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState

  

 We teach classes and let the students make any and all changes to the
 desktop environment.

 Here’s one example.  Student comes in and sets the desktop wallpaper to
 his favorite pinup gal.  Next student doesn’t like it, but is a beginner
 and doesn’t know how to change it to something else.  Reboot and the pin up
 gal is gone.

 Also, I’ve seen some programs/apps that can now be installed without admin
 rights, Google Chrome for example

Re: Replacement for SteadyState

2013-01-04 Thread Jonathan Link
I know our local school district uses Deep Freeze.


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Bambi J Saastad 
bambi.j.saas...@seagate.com wrote:

 Hello
 I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState.
 I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that
 I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down.

 Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any
 changes on reboot?

 TIA
 B



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Re: It is quiet today

2012-12-27 Thread Jonathan Link
Zombies never sleep.


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote:

 S, you’ll wake up the users…

 ** **

 J

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 Happy holidays!

 ** **

 Regards,

 * *

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 **Catholic Health East - Information Technology*

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 *From:* Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:43 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: It is quiet today

 ** **

 Has to do with the Amazon - Netflix issue.

 Daniel Rodriguez
 drod...@gmail.com

 On Dec 26, 2012 8:50 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 Sad but true. Enjoy your quiet time!
 John W. Cook
 Network Operations Manager
 Partnership for Strong Families
  

 *From*: Joe Gibson [mailto:jodgi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent*: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time
 *To*: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject*: Re: It is quiet today
  

 Happy Holidays workhorses

 On Dec 26, 2012 8:24 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:

 Either the list is down or it is really quiet today.

 Jon

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Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Jonathan Link
Alright, that's what I thought and I was wrestling with the question. Am I
crazy or missing something here?

I know, yes and yes.  Still...



On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Steve Kradel skra...@zetetic.net wrote:

 I don't find this alarming at all: it requires access to the key data,
 and is useful if you have a memory dump or a cleartext hibernation
 file (hiberfil.sys is going to be *encrypted* on a hibernating machine
 with whole-disk encryption).  This tool appears to be a good
 time-saver, given a memory dump, because it knows where to look in for
 the keys and how to extract them, but it does not attack any inherent
 cryptographic weakness or key management problems in PGP, TC, etc..

 --Steve

 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Matthew W. Ross
 mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:
  I'm no security expert.
 
  But I do assume that if the physical machine is compromised, then the
 data it holds is as good as compromised as well, no matter what level of
 encryption you have.
 
 
  --Matt Ross
  Ephrata School District
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ziots, Edward
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  To: NT System Admin Issues
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  09:57:51 -0800
  Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?
 
 
  I would say off the record no, if you used popular encryption software
  and a repeatable process, but when you lose physical security of an
  asset, given a reasonable amount of time and effort the encryption will
  be cracked and data will be obtained.
 
 
 
  Z
 
 
 
  Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +
 
  Security Engineer
 
  Lifespan Organization
 
  ezi...@lifespan.org
 
 
 
  From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com]
  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:37 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?
 
 
 
  Oh, great.  I wonder what view CMS will take if a laptop is stolen\lost
  and it's encrypted.  Will they still say it's a HIPAA violation?
 
 
 
  From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
  Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:29 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?
 
 
 
  Comments anyone? Looks like bad news...
 
 
 http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/12/20/this-299-tool-is-reportedly-cap
  able-of-cracking-bitlocker-pgp-and-truecrypt-disks-in-real-time/
 
 
 
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Re: Disk encryption killer: Anyone see this?

2012-12-21 Thread Jonathan Link
Sensationalist tech press is sensational?


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  You could unlock my safe if I gave you the keys as well, which is all
 that is happening here.
  Even the bit about using the hibernation file is not worthy of the
 headline they provided...
  It's not like they're *cracking* the encyption.

   Extra!  Extra!  Read all about it!  Sensationalist tech press
 headline is misleading!

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Re: I hate newegg...

2012-12-11 Thread Jonathan Link
I go to Newegg...
Then I go to Amazon.  If they have it, too...


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 Newegg rocks, propaganda or not. Unless I need it ASAP, then I drive 20
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 *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2012 6:45 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: I hate newegg...

 ** **

 Part of my job is ordering computer stuff. I've done it for so long that
 it takes me forever to just go to new egg or some other site to order stuff
 that I need personally, I've needed to order a DVD burner and some RAM for
 about a month, still haven't got around to it or for that matter the winch
 locks for my truck. Neweggs propaganda doesn't work on me.

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 Seems every time I buy something they give me coupon code to suck me into
 buying some related and irresistible item that I seem to think I really
 want.

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Re: missing VMs

2012-12-06 Thread Jonathan Link
Is there a missing LUN, perhaps?  Any possibility of browsing the iSCSI
device directly to see if there is a damaged volume or something?


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote:

   I did that.  they aren’t there when I browse the datastores.

  *From:* Walker, Michael mwal...@mail.cvhp.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 1:24 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject:* RE: missing VMs


 Can you do a right mouse click over the data store and browse the volume?
 If so, you can search for the vmtx files and then add them back to the
 inventory.

 

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 Citrus Valley Health Partners

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 *mwal...@mail.cvhp.org* mwal...@mail.cvhp.org 

 

 *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:14 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: missing VMs

 

 I did a rescan for added storage or vmfs volumes and nothing changed.

  

 *From:* John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org 

 *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:50 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 

 *Subject:* RE: missing VMs

  

 Well in the paid for version I can do a rescan for datastore on a host, is
 that an available option? Do you have any idea which datastore the VM’s
 were located on to begin with? 

  

 *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.comseanmarti...@gmail.com]

 *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 12:17 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: missing VMs

  

 Sure sounds like there's a datastore missing.

 - Sean


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   Trying to solve other people’s problems here and I’m at a loss.  My
 VMware experience is rudimentary.  

  

 A rack full of equipment was moved.  In this rack, there was an ESXI
 (free) host with 7 VMs on it.  Everything is up except for two WMs.  These
 two VMs were LAMP servers running a couple of websites.  In the Vspere
 client they show as unknown.  There are two data stores listed under
 storage.  I don’t see folders for either unknown VM on either datastore.
 One datastore is local disk.  The other datastore is scsi array connected.
 The array appears to be functioning correctly.  Any way I can see where the
 two VMs expect the vmx files to be?  anything else I should be looking for?
 

  

 Thanks for any help.

  

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Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

2012-11-29 Thread Jonathan Link
Isn't it better to set this via the DHCP server (assuming one is being
used)?


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 I would start with something like this in PowerShell.

 http://digitaldeviation.com/articles/change-dns-servers-remotely-powershell


 I'd modify it to look at the current DNS server config of the adapter and
 only modify it if it's got the old DNS server address. I think that's what
 you are trying to do.


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 To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Date:11/29/2012 01:54 PM
 Subject:DNS settings in GPO or logon script
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 I have active directory server 2008r2 standard.
 I want to push DNS primary and secondary.  I can netsh it but not everyone
 has the same adapter settings name?
 I have all static addressing on all 24 LAN’s.
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Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

2012-11-29 Thread Jonathan Link
Well, I assign all my IP addresses via reservations, so I'm essentially
static.  I thought I'd float it, just in case.




On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  He has 24 LANs statically addressed.

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:40 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

 ** **

 Isn't it better to set this via the DHCP server (assuming one is being
 used)?

 ** **

 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
 christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 I would start with something like this in PowerShell.

 http://digitaldeviation.com/articles/change-dns-servers-remotely-powershell


 I'd modify it to look at the current DNS server config of the adapter and
 only modify it if it's got the old DNS server address. I think that's what
 you are trying to do.

 

 *Christopher Bodnar*
 Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
 Architecture and Engineering Services 

 Tel 610-807-6459
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 To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 Date:11/29/2012 01:54 PM 

 Subject:DNS settings in GPO or logon script 
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Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

2012-11-29 Thread Jonathan Link
Sometimes you have to rip the bandaid off. :-)

On Thursday, November 29, 2012, itli...@imcu.com wrote:

 We will be moving to a more DHCP type shop in the next couple of years.
 But not quite yet.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'jonathan.l...@gmail.com');]
 *Posted At:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:05 PM
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 'itli...@imcu.com');
 *Conversation:* DNS settings in GPO or logon script
 *Subject:* Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

 ** **

 Well, I assign all my IP addresses via reservations, so I'm essentially
 static.  I thought I'd float it, just in case. 

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

 He has 24 LANs statically addressed.

  

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:40 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* Re: DNS settings in GPO or logon script

  

 Isn't it better to set this via the DHCP server (assuming one is being
 used)?

  

 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Christopher Bodnar 
 christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 I would start with something like this in PowerShell.

 http://digitaldeviation.com/articles/change-dns-servers-remotely-powershell


 I'd modify it to look at the current DNS server config of the adapter and
 only modify it if it's got the old DNS server address. I think that's what
 you are trying to do. 

 *Christopher Bodnar*
 Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
 Architecture and Engineering Services 

 Tel 610-807-6459
 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
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Re: excluding WDS from System State backup

2012-11-26 Thread Jonathan Link
IMO, the WDS server doesn't change often enough to require frequent
backups.  It gets an ad hoc backup, and relatively infrequent updates, as
necessary, based on changes to the image library.


On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:05 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote:

 WDS is already on a separate drive.  Yet I'm still forced to back up WDS as
 part of the System State, best I can tell.


 Original Message:
 -
 From: Mike Hoffman m...@drumbrae.net
 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:46:34 +
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup


 That's the reason we use lots of drive letters. In the SBS world where we
 typically work we tend to put WSUS and other 'stuff' on their own drives
 for that kind of reason. Heck we even have one server with a TB USB drive
 attached which is then passed through to the Hyper-V client just for random
 un-backed up stuff.

 How about moving WDS into it's own drive? You could always virtualise and
 over-provision (is that he correct word?).

 Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
 Sent: 26 November 2012 18:10
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: excluding WDS from System State backup

 Don't think you can exclude any part of the SS.

 Regards,

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 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: excluding WDS from System State backup

 I'm using Backupexec 2012.  I'd like to exclude WDS from being backed up as
 part of the System State backups because it adds 100Gb to each nightly
 System State backup because of the images folder.  I can't seem to find a
 way to exclude JUST the WDS stuff from the System State.  It seems to be
 all or nothing.  Is this possible to do?

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Re: OT: RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Jonathan Link
He said what.  Not who.


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:

  We’ll let you know after the paternity tests are back. J

 ** **

 ** **

 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/

 ** **

 *From:* Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
 *Subject:* Re: OT: RE: AD Washout

 ** **

 What'd I do?

 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

 agreed on the subj line change Don

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Re: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

2012-11-14 Thread Jonathan Link
That KB applies to i386/64/ia64 versions of Windows 7/Server 2008.
The hotfix can be downloaded for each of those versions.


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  Looks very promising, but these are 32 bit Win7 boxes. That is only a 64
 bit fix but I will certainly give the reg entries a try.

 ** **

 *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:01 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

  ** **

 Might check this out. We had similar issues because the computers didn’t
 have a DHCP lease when the drives were mapped so the mapping failed.

 ** **

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2459530

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:33 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

 ** **

 Yes, straight after logon. Wired connections are ok.  I will do some
 testing with a gpupdate and also turn up GP logging and report back in a
 few days. Both very good ideas, tyvm.

 ** **

 *From:* James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com falc...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:07 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

 ** **

 Jim,

 ** **

 I’m assuming that straight after logon they are not there?  When using GP
 does a gpupdate cause the drives to appear?

 ** **

 What about on a wired connection, does the fault still exist then?

 ** **

 James.

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim 
 [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgkennedy...@elyriaschools.org]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 November 2012 4:01 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Win 7 wireless mapped drives

 ** **

 I have been fighting this off and on for some time. Time to reach out for
 some help.

 Win 7 wireless computers. We map drives for the students, a couple of
 shares and their MY Docs redirect is also mapped as a drive letter.
 Randomly, not all the time, but very frequently they fail to get all three
 drives. The VAST majority of the time it is the mapped shares. Their my
 docs mapped drive are fine for the most part. Event logs show the policy
 applying and show successful mapping of the drive. But they are not there.
 

 I have been through it all, enablelinkedconnections, wait for network,
 fastlogon off…everything that google and I can think of. Tried VBS
 scripting and GPP’s. Mapping to DFS and straight to a server share make no
 difference.  No change in behavior despite any of the adjustments I have
 made.

 Any ideas?

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Re: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

2012-11-14 Thread Jonathan Link
*touches nose and points*


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  Only if you click on ‘Show hotfixes for all platforms and languages’.  ;)
 

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:34 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

 ** **

 That KB applies to i386/64/ia64 versions of Windows 7/Server 2008.

 The hotfix can be downloaded for each of those versions.

 ** **

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

 Looks very promising, but these are 32 bit Win7 boxes. That is only a 64
 bit fix but I will certainly give the reg entries a try.

  

 *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:01 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

  

 Might check this out. We had similar issues because the computers didn’t
 have a DHCP lease when the drives were mapped so the mapping failed.

  

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2459530

  

  

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:33 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

  

 Yes, straight after logon. Wired connections are ok.  I will do some
 testing with a gpupdate and also turn up GP logging and report back in a
 few days. Both very good ideas, tyvm.

  

 *From:* James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com falc...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:07 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Win 7 wireless mapped drives

  

 Jim,

  

 I’m assuming that straight after logon they are not there?  When using GP
 does a gpupdate cause the drives to appear?

  

 What about on a wired connection, does the fault still exist then?

  

 James.

  

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim 
 [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgkennedy...@elyriaschools.org]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 November 2012 4:01 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Win 7 wireless mapped drives

  

 I have been fighting this off and on for some time. Time to reach out for
 some help.

 Win 7 wireless computers. We map drives for the students, a couple of
 shares and their MY Docs redirect is also mapped as a drive letter.
 Randomly, not all the time, but very frequently they fail to get all three
 drives. The VAST majority of the time it is the mapped shares. Their my
 docs mapped drive are fine for the most part. Event logs show the policy
 applying and show successful mapping of the drive. But they are not there.
 

 I have been through it all, enablelinkedconnections, wait for network,
 fastlogon off…everything that google and I can think of. Tried VBS
 scripting and GPP’s. Mapping to DFS and straight to a server share make no
 difference.  No change in behavior despite any of the adjustments I have
 made.

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Re: 2013 security predictions

2012-11-13 Thread Jonathan Link
Of course it fails to mention compromising the Hypervisor... :D


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 http://vmblog.com/archive/2012/11/13/bromium-security-predictions-2013-malware-cross-pollination-and-next-generation-virtualization.aspx

 I find the part of this article about the end of the signature era quite
 interesting

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Re: OT McAfee wanted for murder.

2012-11-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Mmmm. Bath salts


On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 He was bought out years ago.  Gizmodo did an article on his increasingly
 erratic behavior last week and a few months ago.

 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Stephen Holtz 
 ste...@addisonreserve.ccwrote:

 Well that explains the problems with their product!

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 ** **

 There are a lot of possible one liners here, but I will refrain out of
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 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57548458-83/antivirus-pioneer-john-mcafee-reportedly-accused-of-murder/
 

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Re: SSH (PuTTY) session from Windows2008R2

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Link
That Login box...is it a windows system login box, kinda like what's
presented at a UAC elevation prompt?  Provide a picture of it, or
additional details?



On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Christopher Bodnar 
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:

 I have no problems using Putt or SSH Secure Shell connecting to our ESX
 hosts.


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 Subject:SSH (PuTTY) session from Windows2008R2
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 Greetings!

 We use PuTTY for SSH sessions to manage various devices.  An issue has
 recently been discovered by us here…

 We have no problem logging in to our Cisco Catalyst 3750 switch stack via
 SSH from machines running Windows XP, Windows 7, or Windows 2003.  However,
 if we are logged into a Windows 2008R2 system…

 Using PuTTY, we connect to the switch stack and get a login box.  After
 providing user name and password, we are denied access.

 Using telnet (MS version enabled in the “Features” page of Control
 Panel/Applications), we can log in with no problem.

 My preliminary Google searches seem to indicate that although SSH clients
 and servers are not a part of Windows 2008, it is supported.  So far,
 nothing regarding this inability to log in to other systems using SSH.
  Again, this is weird as a telnet session from the same Windows 2008
 machine gives access.

 Anyone???  Thanks!!!
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Re: Confused about DNS resolution on a server with 2 NICs on a DMZ

2012-11-09 Thread Jonathan Link
Violently agreeing. :D


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

 Then I think we are saying the same thing, just in different ways. :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:09 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Confused about DNS resolution on a server with 2 NICs on a DMZ

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:
  Your statements are true in regards to DNS in the abstract. But as you
 allude to, different adapters may have access to different servers and the
 results you obtain - especially when both adapters point to DNS servers
 that have different answers for queries can be surprising.

   That's what I'm trying to say: There's one DNS namespace/cache.
 Resolver query order may be determined by adapter priority, but the
 answers feed into the same cache.  If you try to treat it as anything
 *other* than a system-wide thing, you get those surprises.

   The fact that people fall into the trap of treating Windows DNS as not
 system-wide, doesn't mean it's not actually system-wide.

   If DNS *wasn't* system-wide, having different resolvers configured on
 different network adapters might be able to work -- you'd be able to
 maintain different, disjoint namespaces simultaneously.  But it doesn't
 work that way, and that's the problem.

   Bad car analogy time: My car has one steering wheel.  More than one
 person can grab the wheel and try to steer at once.  It won't end well,
 because while you can provide multiple inputs, steering is a car-wide thing.

   (As an aside: This isn't a Windows-specific problem, either.  You can
 configure multiple resolvers on *nix or most other OSes, too, and if those
 resolvers have different ideas of what the namespace is, the same problems
 occur.)

 -- Ben

  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:31 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Confused about DNS resolution on a server with 2 NICs on
  a DMZ
 
  On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:
   DNS is not specific to a given network adapter.  It's a system-wide
 thing.
 
  Your first two sentences are not really true with Windows. It's
  complicated. :P
 
My understanding is that the Windows DNS subsystem has a single
 namespace, shared across the entire system.  If a record is cached by the
 local resolver, that cached record is the same for the entire system.  Is
 that incorrect?
 
I realize the order in which full-service resolvers are tried is
 driven by network adapter priority.
 
Assuming my understanding is correct: If it's all one namespace, I
 think it's best to consider it a system-wide thing.  DNS *is* the
 namespace, as far as most things are concerned.  Playing games with the
 resolver order to try and influence that single namespace is a very bad
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Re: Fwd: Kurt's current security recommendations for your computer - the 2012 update

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
That's tl;dr in the vernacular. :P


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:

 Reminds me of War and Peace. You lost me after the first paragraph. Hehehe
 On Nov 7, 2012 9:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, that was unintended...

 This was meant to go to friends and family, and not to such a large
 audience.

 However, if you find it useful, well, good.

 And I'd still be interested to hear what you think of it.

 Kurt

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:24 PM
 Subject: Kurt's current security recommendations for your computer - the
 2012 update
 To: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com


 All,

 I sent out the last version of this back over a year ago. It's time for a
 refresh. I've only done a few minor updates, as things haven't really
 changed much. However, I'd be pleased if share with me any thoughts you
 have on what I've written.
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Re: Deploy Java using GPO Windows 2003

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Alternatively, have you deployed software via GPO before?
That document doesn't state it, but Domain Computers needs to have access
to the share.


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  “an MSI*.log  file in the users temp folder but nothing, nothing”

 ** **

 Are you assigning it to the users or the machine.  The install should be
 assigned to the machine.

 ** **

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 *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:22 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Deploy Java using GPO Windows 2003

 ** **

 Have you rebooted the PC.  They will only get the package when starting
 up.  Also, have your looked at gpresults in the GPMC?  This will tell you
 if the computers are trying to apply your policy.

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ok, I’m trying to push out the latest Java 1.7.0_09 for Windows using
 Windows 2003 GPO, I have followed : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816102
 

 It seems very straight forward, I extracted the .msi file copied to a
 shared folder assigned the package using the full UNC path but nothing is
 happening the PC's are not getting the package. I even check for debugging
 and added a Reg key that was supposed to add an MSI*.log  file in the users
 temp folder but nothing, nothing . . 

 I’m at a total loss here, any suggestions would be very welcome.


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Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Do you have a suitable repalcement for PGP Whole Disk Encryption that
includes centralized management and SSO capabilities?


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 No, the first rule of Symantec is you don't use any of their products :-)


 On 8 November 2012 16:23, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 The first rule of Symantec is you don't talk about symantec


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 It is SEP12, I'm sorry I do not know the definition file, that is
 handled by the security group...and they don't really want to talk about
 Symantec right now.


  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.comwrote:

  curious, SEP 11 or 12, and what definitions when this happened ?

 Thanks

  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 Yep, all on its own. Granted this was based on setting that were made
 during installation, based on recommendations from the onstie Symantec
 vendor/engineer.



  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

   “SEP quarantined the files and then went to all machines on the
 network and quarantined them on all machines…”

 ** **

 Holy smokes, it decided to do that on it’s own? And quarantined the
 machines that had NOT been updated yet?

 ** **

 So glad I don’t run AV.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:45 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   ** **

 Ken

  

 These two updates were only installed on a couple of Win7 machines at
 most. They were approved during the day for install overnight, a couple 
 of
 users saw the pop-up and installed. SEP quarantined the files and then 
 went
 to all machines on the network and quarantined them on all machines 
 (Win7,
 Vista, and XP).

  

 It would be nice if we had a separate network, but I'm not sure that
 will get approved.

  

 Robert

 ** **

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 Even if you don’t have a separate network, you can create a separate
 group in WSUS, and put a test machine(s) with your SOE image in that 
 group.
 

  

 That would allow you to test patches prior to mass deployment.
 Checking for AV issues would be just one thing – I’d recommend that you
 have some test cases for all your important apps as well.

  

 Cheers

 Ken

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:48 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*
 

  

 Ken,

  

 That was my first question, but it is still unanswered. I am still
 new at this %dayjob%. 

  

 In this case, the testing would have had to be done in a separate
 network, which I am fairly sure we don't have. I will take that 
 suggestion
 to the table when we analyze the breakdowns of this incident.

  

 Robert

  

 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 No matter who you migrate to, you’ll also run into issues (false
 positives seem to occur all the time, with all vendors).

  

 Did you test the patches before releasing to Production? Might be
 worth beefing up the testing regime.

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 5:22 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   

  

 FYI

  

 We approved two MS patches yesterday (KB2574819 KB2592687) in WSUS.
 One user installed the two updates in the afternoon and Symantec Endpoint
 Protection 12 with several advanced features enabled (threat protection,
 hurestics, SONAR, etc). SEP quarrantined 15 system files, run32.dll among
 them. The real problems started when SEP decided to quarantine the files
 across all ~600 workstations taking us completely offline.

  

 The fix was to boot each workstation into safe mode and removing SEP.
 

  

 It was a long night.

  

 The good news:

 None of the advanced features were enabled on the servers.

 We are migrating away from SEP as of this morning.

  

 Robert

  

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Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Excellent.  May I ask about your annual maintenance costs?


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.com wrote:

 CheckPoint has a full disk encryption solution that has those features. We
 purchased 100 seats for ~$80 a seat.


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:

 Do you have a suitable repalcement for PGP Whole Disk Encryption that
 includes centralized management and SSO capabilities?


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 No, the first rule of Symantec is you don't use any of their products :-)


 On 8 November 2012 16:23, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 The first rule of Symantec is you don't talk about symantec


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 It is SEP12, I'm sorry I do not know the definition file, that is
 handled by the security group...and they don't really want to talk about
 Symantec right now.


  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.comwrote:

  curious, SEP 11 or 12, and what definitions when this happened ?

 Thanks

  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Robert Cato 
 cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 Yep, all on its own. Granted this was based on setting that were
 made during installation, based on recommendations from the onstie 
 Symantec
 vendor/engineer.



  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

   “SEP quarantined the files and then went to all machines on the
 network and quarantined them on all machines…”

 ** **

 Holy smokes, it decided to do that on it’s own? And quarantined the
 machines that had NOT been updated yet?

 ** **

 So glad I don’t run AV.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:45 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   ** **

 Ken

  

 These two updates were only installed on a couple of Win7 machines
 at most. They were approved during the day for install overnight, a 
 couple
 of users saw the pop-up and installed. SEP quarantined the files and 
 then
 went to all machines on the network and quarantined them on all 
 machines
 (Win7, Vista, and XP).

  

 It would be nice if we had a separate network, but I'm not sure
 that will get approved.

  

 Robert

 ** **

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 Even if you don’t have a separate network, you can create a
 separate group in WSUS, and put a test machine(s) with your SOE image 
 in
 that group. 

  

 That would allow you to test patches prior to mass deployment.
 Checking for AV issues would be just one thing – I’d recommend that you
 have some test cases for all your important apps as well.

  

 Cheers

 Ken

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:48 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*
 

  

 Ken,

  

 That was my first question, but it is still unanswered. I am still
 new at this %dayjob%. 

  

 In this case, the testing would have had to be done in a separate
 network, which I am fairly sure we don't have. I will take that 
 suggestion
 to the table when we analyze the breakdowns of this incident.

  

 Robert

  

 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 No matter who you migrate to, you’ll also run into issues (false
 positives seem to occur all the time, with all vendors).

  

 Did you test the patches before releasing to Production? Might be
 worth beefing up the testing regime.

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 5:22 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   

  

 FYI

  

 We approved two MS patches yesterday (KB2574819 KB2592687) in WSUS.
 One user installed the two updates in the afternoon and Symantec 
 Endpoint
 Protection 12 with several advanced features enabled (threat 
 protection,
 hurestics, SONAR, etc). SEP quarrantined 15 system files, run32.dll 
 among
 them. The real problems started when SEP decided to quarantine the 
 files
 across all ~600 workstations taking us completely offline.

  

 The fix was to boot each workstation into safe mode and removing
 SEP.

  

 It was a long night.

  

 The good news:

 None of the advanced features were enabled on the servers.

 We are migrating away from SEP as of this morning.

  

 Robert

  

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
What wasn't? :P


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 **
 No, but I bet it was better before Symantec got hold of it
 ---Blackberried
 --
 *From: * Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:40:59 -0500
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

 Do you have a suitable repalcement for PGP Whole Disk Encryption that
 includes centralized management and SSO capabilities?


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 No, the first rule of Symantec is you don't use any of their products :-)


 On 8 November 2012 16:23, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 The first rule of Symantec is you don't talk about symantec


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 It is SEP12, I'm sorry I do not know the definition file, that is
 handled by the security group...and they don't really want to talk about
 Symantec right now.


  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.comwrote:

  curious, SEP 11 or 12, and what definitions when this happened ?

 Thanks

  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Robert Cato cato.rob...@gmail.comwrote:


 Yep, all on its own. Granted this was based on setting that were made
 during installation, based on recommendations from the onstie Symantec
 vendor/engineer.



  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Kennedy, Jim 
 kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote:

   “SEP quarantined the files and then went to all machines on the
 network and quarantined them on all machines…”

 ** **

 Holy smokes, it decided to do that on it’s own? And quarantined the
 machines that had NOT been updated yet?

 ** **

 So glad I don’t run AV.

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:45 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   ** **

 Ken

  

 These two updates were only installed on a couple of Win7 machines
 at most. They were approved during the day for install overnight, a 
 couple
 of users saw the pop-up and installed. SEP quarantined the files and 
 then
 went to all machines on the network and quarantined them on all machines
 (Win7, Vista, and XP).

  

 It would be nice if we had a separate network, but I'm not sure that
 will get approved.

  

 Robert

 ** **

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 Even if you don’t have a separate network, you can create a separate
 group in WSUS, and put a test machine(s) with your SOE image in that 
 group.
 

  

 That would allow you to test patches prior to mass deployment.
 Checking for AV issues would be just one thing – I’d recommend that you
 have some test cases for all your important apps as well.

  

 Cheers

 Ken

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:48 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*
 

  

 Ken,

  

 That was my first question, but it is still unanswered. I am still
 new at this %dayjob%. 

  

 In this case, the testing would have had to be done in a separate
 network, which I am fairly sure we don't have. I will take that 
 suggestion
 to the table when we analyze the breakdowns of this incident.

  

 Robert

  

 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
 wrote:

 No matter who you migrate to, you’ll also run into issues (false
 positives seem to occur all the time, with all vendors).

  

 Did you test the patches before releasing to Production? Might be
 worth beefing up the testing regime.

  

 *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 5:22 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Symantec %@(*OI:TNGF(P*

   

  

 FYI

  

 We approved two MS patches yesterday (KB2574819 KB2592687) in WSUS.
 One user installed the two updates in the afternoon and Symantec 
 Endpoint
 Protection 12 with several advanced features enabled (threat protection,
 hurestics, SONAR, etc). SEP quarrantined 15 system files, run32.dll 
 among
 them. The real problems started when SEP decided to quarantine the files
 across all ~600 workstations taking us completely offline.

  

 The fix was to boot each workstation into safe mode and removing SEP.
 

  

 It was a long night.

  

 The good news:

 None of the advanced features were enabled on the servers.

 We are migrating away from SEP as of this morning.

  

 Robert

  

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise

Re: Kurt's current security recommendations for your computer - the 2012 update

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Thanks for lumping North Dakota in with other countries.  About time
everyone knows it's the United States of North Dakota. :-)


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh heck no - share it all you want, and you don't even have to include my
 name if you don't want to.

 A couple of minor fixes:

  Bulgaria, China and North Dakota are as close and your next door
 should read Bulgaria, China and North Dakota are as close as your next
 door

  you're in better shape that would otherwise be the case should read
 you're in better shape than would otherwise be the case

 Kurt



 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Very well done Kurt - Thanks for the efforts.  I hope you don't mind me
 sharing it with Stu's link included?

 Don K


   --
 *From:* Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:24 PM

 *Subject:* Kurt's current security recommendations for your computer -
 the 2012 update

 All,

 I sent out the last version of this back over a year ago. It's time for a
 refresh. I've only done a few minor updates, as things haven't really
 changed much. However, I'd be pleased if share with me any thoughts you
 have on what I've written.

 The first thing to remember is that security (computer or otherwise) is
 not an end state. It's a process, and a mind set. Why do security
 professionals say that? For three related reasons:

 *o- The world changes*
 Trite, perhaps, but it's fundamental. For the computing world, this
 means new applications, new versions of applications, new versions of
 operating systems, patches to current operating systems and applications,
 etc. It also means new criminals and new ways of crime - they are tricksy
 beasts.

 *o- All software has bugs*
 Lots of them. If (when!) encountered, many of those bugs will cause
 your computer to behave in ways that are much less safe than you would hope
 or expect.

 *o- The computing world has more risks than the physical world*
 There are hostile actors in the computing world trying to take
 advantage of the above, which means that what might have been relatively
 safe earlier is unlikely to be so in short order. What you *MUST*
 understand is that, for these people, infecting your computer is a
 business. They make money from it, in several different ways. The specifics
 of the business are beyond the scope of this discussion, but understanding
 that should lead you to understand that you and your computer are a target,
 no matter how insignificant or obscure you think you or your computer might
 be. And, they can be anywhere in the world - Bulgaria, China and North
 Dakota are as close and your next door neighbor.

 *But, all is not lost, nor insuperable.* Understanding the above, and
 following a few pieces of advice, will keep you out of most trouble and
 will improve your odds of safe computing over the longer term.

 Understand that the situation in the computing world is fluid and that
 the enemy is mobile, agile and hostile, and you're in better shape that
 would otherwise be the case.

 So, the advice, in rough order:

 *o- Mobile devices are still more dangerous than traditional computers
 such as laptops and desktops*
 They, and the software on them, are still not mature, and methods for
 using and managing them safely are not well developed. In particular, it's
 very difficult to achieve separation of privileges between administrative
 functions and normal user functions, because there aren't any easy ways to
 use more than one account. What that means, and why this is important will
 become a bit more clear if you read this whole message. Right now I'll just
 caution you that mobile devices are under intense scrutiny by computer
 criminals for any advantage, and are the fastest rising targets for
 malicious activity. Be careful with them.
 Don't
 a) install apps without understanding what they do and what
 privileges they require,
 b) open random text messages - especially you shouldn't follow links
 in text message to web sites, or
 c) perform any really sensitive tasks on them - by this I mostly mean
 doing financial tasks or keeping financial data on the device without
 encrypting it.

 Do keep your eyes peeled for good security software and for unexpected or
 suspicious behavior on your mobile device.

 *o- Keep your machine patched*
 For your computer's operating system (Windows, Mac, Linux or other)
 and for every program that you commonly use on your machine, make sure that
 at least once a month you visit the vendor's web site and keep current with
 the latest security updates. This includes your operating system (Windows,
 Mac, Linux, whatever), and your application software - not only the major
 pieces like MS Office or OpenOffice, and your web browser, but also the
 various Adobe 

Re: A question about Virtualization

2012-11-06 Thread Jonathan Link
Thinly provisioning servers, too.
In that most of my servers now host a single app or role.  I went from 3
physical to 10 virtual, but I planned it out.


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, David Mazzaccaro 
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote:

 Good luck!
 Also consider VM Sprawl.
 You may have 6 servers now, but that could very easily double or triple.

 (testing, backup, upgrades, redundancy, load balancing, etc...)





 -Original Message-
 From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:09 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: A question about Virtualization

 Thanks all,
 I know I will have 6 servers to virtualize.  Outside of that I am not
 sure.  I am waiting on specs.
 I will look through archives and trying and get more info going forward.


 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
 Posted At: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 11:57 AM
 Posted To: itli...@imcu.com
 Conversation: A question about Virtualization
 Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization

 Hey David.

 My recommendation: Start small. Find a desktop with a VM enabled chip
 and create a little VM server. All of the major players have a free
 version to use:

 VMWare: ESXi (The industry standard)
 Microsot: Hyper-V Server (Quickly gaining popularity)
 Citrix: XenServer (Best for Desktop Virtualization, I hear.)
 Linux: ProxMox VE (Web-based VM, but no Desktop Virtualization option)

 

 After you get your feet wet, you will then start to see what kind of
 investment you are in for. You'll have to start thinking of large
 servers to host VMs, with lots of processors/memory, not to mention
 extra networking and shared storage.


 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


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 [mailto:itli...@imcu.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2012
 08:28:21 -0800
 Subject: A question about Virtualization


  I have no experience with Virtualized anything.
 
  I have read VMware is better than Citrix.
 
  What kind of hardware do I put all of this on?
 
  A Blade server with a SAN back end?
 
  I really have no opinions or experience on any of this.
 
  Please don't flame me to badly.
 
  Thanks
 
  David
 
 
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Re: Strange SBS2011 migration path, looking for some input

2012-11-06 Thread Jonathan Link
+1
It was the best $200 I spent during our migration from physical to virtual.
 I had an issue and it was a relatively common issue with the steps for
resolving it clearly detailed.  I couldn't tell you what the issue was, as
I did this several years ago.


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 Should you decide to do the swing migration pony up for the SBS migration
 package. If it's something you don't do often (or will ever again) it's
 worth the knowledge and support.

  John W. Cook
 Network Operations Manager
 Partnership For Strong Families
 5950 NW 1st Place
 Gainesville, Fl 32607
 Office (352) 244-1610
 Cell (352) 215-6944
 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 -Original Message-
 From: James R. Costa, MCP [mailto:james.co...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 4:20 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Strange SBS2011 migration path, looking for some input

 A mess, indeed.  Thanks for your input Art.  I must have been thinking of
 SBS2011 Standard when I wrote about not using newer Exchange... was kinda
 braindead yesterday.

 You would think Essentials was installed to replace a DC... but it was
 just added to the mess.  While it's a great idea to virtualize those old
 servers, it's pretty pointless in this case.  They shouldn't be there in
 the first place.  There were a total of 6 DCs in the 8 servers for about 23
 users, Exchange installed on 3 boxes, only really running on the one VM
 though.  Basically anything they are doing can be combined on one server.
  Their whole system is pretty backwards right now.

 I'm thinking SBS 2011 Standard with appropriate user CALs is still the
 right choice for them.  The box it would be installed on is a Dell
 Poweredge R710, 2x 6-core Xeon w/ HT, 32GB RAM, 6x 2TB/7.2k in RAID5.  SO
 it definitely has the horsepower and capacity they need.  All of the other
 servers are running Win2K/Win2K3 on effectively junk hardware... OLD Compaq
 ML530 Pentium III Xeon (160lbs.), Pentium Dual-Core whitebox, etc.

 There is one older-gen Intel whitebox server that could be used for a
 swing migration.  Although I'm still up in the air about which path to
 take.  I could do a swing to that other box, although I have never done one
 before, and at the same time, I'm inclined to start fresh and visit every
 workstation to disjoin/rejoin to make sure everything is configured
 properly.  I will check on the public folders.  Exporting their mail to PST
 will be interesting too, as some of the users have mailboxes that are
 20-25GB in size.  Would you foresee any issues in exporting mailboxes of
 that size?

 Thanks again for your input!!

 James

 
 What a mess.

 SBS 2011 Essentials will not support Exchange. That's why he has it
 installed on another box. It looks like Essentials was installed to replace
 an old DC and try to update the network. But that's in the past now.

 I would plan to install a new version of SBS 2011 Premium based on the
 number of servers. You get the rights for 2 physical boxes (and SQL) and
 can virtualize some of the other servers on the second box.

 What are the specs for the latest box you plan on installing SBS 2011
 Standard on?
 What are the other 7 servers doing and can they be combined and
 virtualized?
 You will need SBS 2011 Standard and the appropriate number of CALs. None
 of the CALs they have now are valid for SBS 2011.

 David is right in that you can do a swing migration. You will need
 another server for this. Will one of the others work temporarily?

 Is the rest of the network, AD, users, etc. OK or do they look iffy also?
 If so I would be inclined to start from scratch and build it so you know
 exactly what you have. I know it's a pain but you could export the PST
 files. That should cover most of their Exchange data. Unless they are using
 Public Folders.

 If the client is growing, this might be a good time to start over with a
 good base and review existing policies and build it to match the client's
 needs and expectations.

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Re: Friday on target Dilbert for anyone tired of hearing the cloud

2012-10-26 Thread Jonathan Link
I've actually used the line (or some derivation of it) in the second to
last frame.  Of course, it happened to be true in my case.

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Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

2012-10-23 Thread Jonathan Link
Sure robocopy will do this just fine.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings: This subject must have made several rounds already but here it
 is again.

 - Doing major file migration (~20TB); all from Windows box to another
 windows box - tool of choice Brocade StorageX is broken.

 - Tried richcopy (which all the chatter suggests replaces robocopy) -
 Crashes all the times - reliability factor is a huge concern.

 I want to know from someone who has indeed used any free/opensource tool
 or paid tool to transfer the file where ACLs and timestamps must gets
 transferred over.

 Thanks in advance,

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Re: What is your IT department name?

2012-10-23 Thread Jonathan Link
Systems Handing, Information Technology, Helping Employ Aberrant, Deviant
Sociopaths.

That can be read in multiple ways... It's an exercise for the reader.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Kennedy, Jim
kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote:

  He sent this back.

 ** **

 Systems Handling, Information Technology, Applications, Systems Training,
 and Identification Control Services

 ** **

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitasticdefid=57890

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:02 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: What is your IT department name?

  ** **

 I’ll see your boss, and raise you.

 ** **

 Systems Handling and Information Technology, Training, Infrastructure,
 Engineering, Storage, and Transitioning. 

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:26 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: What is your IT department name?

 ** **

 Nice.  My boss just took your name to the next level.

 ** **

 Systems Handling and Information Technology, Training and Yoyo Services***
 *

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:07 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: What is your IT department name?

 ** **

 Agreed – that was my recommendation, my 2nd one being “Systems Handling
 and Information Technology Services”, aka SHITS J

 ** **

 *From:* Kennedy, Jim 
 [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgkennedy...@elyriaschools.org]

 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:59 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: What is your IT department name?

 ** **

 It Services is ours, and I think it fits your scenario very well.

 ** **
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 *From:* David Lum david@nwea.org
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2012 2:57 PM
 *Subject:* What is your IT department name?

 ** **

 We get to rename the group I work for as we’re doing some restructuring.
 Currently the team is called the Service Desk but we’re going to roll me
 and another Systems Engineer into it so we’ll cover everything from
 workstations to phones to file/print/application server as well as all
 Active Directory functions. We already have product-facing IS groups called
 IS Delivery and IS Operations and we’d like to differentiate a little by
 using “IT” and we support the internal side of the house (employee’s) and
 not NWEA customers.

  

 I’m looking for a few ideas as well as what others’ use.

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

  

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Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

2012-10-23 Thread Jonathan Link
Oh, and you might want to set the retries to 1 or 0 and the wait on an open
file to a second or two, too.  If a file is open, I think it retries 30
times for 30 seconds (I'm not looking this up, just kind of remembering)
which could make the initial copy take a LONG time if a number of files are
open.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:23 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

 **
 Ditto, run it whenever to get the bulk of the data copied.  Then kick
 everyone out, run it again to roll up any changes, let everyone back in.
 If you want a GUI with a ton of options you can look at this app.  I use
 it as my primary file level back solution but it also works great for
 little projects like this.  It's dirt cheap for everything it can do.
 http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbpro.html

  --
 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:26 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

  Sure robocopy will do this just fine.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings: This subject must have made several rounds already but here it
 is again.

 - Doing major file migration (~20TB); all from Windows box to another
 windows box - tool of choice Brocade StorageX is broken.

 - Tried richcopy (which all the chatter suggests replaces robocopy) -
 Crashes all the times - reliability factor is a huge concern.

 I want to know from someone who has indeed used any free/opensource tool
 or paid tool to transfer the file where ACLs and timestamps must gets
 transferred over.

 Thanks in advance,

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Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

2012-10-23 Thread Jonathan Link
I don't doubt you on the number of times.  I just remembered that 30 was
part of it..somewhere.
:-)

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.comwrote:

 **
 It retries something stupid like 2 million times with a 30 second wait
 between each. Seriously
 ---Blackberried
 --
 *From: * Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:38:40 -0400
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

 Oh, and you might want to set the retries to 1 or 0 and the wait on an
 open file to a second or two, too.  If a file is open, I think it retries
 30 times for 30 seconds (I'm not looking this up, just kind of remembering)
 which could make the initial copy take a LONG time if a number of files are
 open.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:23 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

 **
 Ditto, run it whenever to get the bulk of the data copied.  Then kick
 everyone out, run it again to roll up any changes, let everyone back in.
 If you want a GUI with a ton of options you can look at this app.  I use
 it as my primary file level back solution but it also works great for
 little projects like this.  It's dirt cheap for everything it can do.
 http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbpro.html

  --
 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:26 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

  Sure robocopy will do this just fine.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings: This subject must have made several rounds already but here
 it is again.

 - Doing major file migration (~20TB); all from Windows box to another
 windows box - tool of choice Brocade StorageX is broken.

 - Tried richcopy (which all the chatter suggests replaces robocopy) -
 Crashes all the times - reliability factor is a huge concern.

 I want to know from someone who has indeed used any free/opensource tool
 or paid tool to transfer the file where ACLs and timestamps must gets
 transferred over.

 Thanks in advance,

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Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

2012-10-23 Thread Jonathan Link
Well, to be fair, I wasn't going to write out his full robocopy command, he
still has timestamps and file permissions to preserve.  I was just
mentioning a possible gotcha of trying to stage data at the final
destination...

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Here's an example of the /r and /w options on robocopy

 /r:3 /w:2  = retry 3 times,  wait 2 secs between retries

 etc...

   --
 *From:* Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:38 PM

 *Subject:* Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

 Oh, and you might want to set the retries to 1 or 0 and the wait on an
 open file to a second or two, too.  If a file is open, I think it retries
 30 times for 30 seconds (I'm not looking this up, just kind of remembering)
 which could make the initial copy take a LONG time if a number of files are
 open.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:23 PM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

 **
 Ditto, run it whenever to get the bulk of the data copied.  Then kick
 everyone out, run it again to roll up any changes, let everyone back in.
 If you want a GUI with a ton of options you can look at this app.  I use
 it as my primary file level back solution but it also works great for
 little projects like this.  It's dirt cheap for everything it can do.
 http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbpro.html

  --
 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:26 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: File Server Migration - File transfer utility

  Sure robocopy will do this just fine.

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings: This subject must have made several rounds already but here it
 is again.

 - Doing major file migration (~20TB); all from Windows box to another
 windows box - tool of choice Brocade StorageX is broken.

 - Tried richcopy (which all the chatter suggests replaces robocopy) -
 Crashes all the times - reliability factor is a huge concern.

 I want to know from someone who has indeed used any free/opensource tool
 or paid tool to transfer the file where ACLs and timestamps must gets
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Re: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry

2012-10-19 Thread Jonathan Link
This is harshing my mellow.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 They're getting smoked.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:03 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry

 From DHS, if any of your companies or associates are on the list, I would
 assume you are going to be seeing more attacks coming up.

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 been feeding fuel to the fire as far as keeping this safe plant we know and
 love called cannabis illegal for years. It is our time now to show them who
 is the boss and that we are not afraid to show action.
 This is NOT A THREAT! It's a promise! We are asking all anonymous
 hacktivists to help join the party!
 4.
 5.There will be 10 days of DDoS attacks on 10 different tobacco
 sites/agencies. Starting October 18th 2012 -- October 27th 2012.
 6.Each day we will be attacking a new site.
 7.
 8.Every night at 8:00pm EST (Eastern Standard Time) We will Fire our Laz0rs
 towards a specific site/agency. Check down below for more details on attack
 dates.
 9.
 10.**IMPORTANT**
 11.If you do plan on helping with the attack, please make sure you are
 using
 a VPN  make sure your DNS is not leaking when DDoSing!!!
 12.
 13.DO NOT USE LOIC!!!
 14.Use HOIC and the WebHive!!!
 15.
 16.Also HOIC is pointless without booster scripts so please use a booster
 script for the specific site we are attacking!!! (Links Below) 17.
 18.~~
 19.**How To Use HOIC**
 20.
 21.If your using an older computer with little ram or weak processors.
 Set the thread count for 2 or 3.
 22.
 23.If you are using a newer computer with a good amount of ram and
 processors. Set the thread count for 4 or 5.
 24.
 25.~~
 26.**DNS Leak Check**
 27.Once you have set up your VPN. Go to the DNS Leak Checker Link down
 below
 and check to see if your DNS is leaking. If you see anything that has your
 ISP (Internet Service Provider) then your DNS IS LEAKING!!!
 (Which can be very bad!!)
 28.
 29.If you DO NOT see anything with your ISP then your DNS is NOT Leaking!
 (Which is good!!) 30.~~
 31.**How to use HOIC Booster Scripts**
 32.
 33.Just copy and paste the code into any text editor an save it as a .hoic
 file.
 34.(You can name the booster whatever you want as long as it is a .hoic
 extension!!)
 35.
 36.Then take the booster script an drag it into the same folder HOIC is in.
 37.
 38.Then when you are ready to attack the a specific site. Find the booster
 meant for that specific site an you should be set to fire!
 39.
 40.~~
 41.Tools  Goodies
 42.
 43.Here's a bunch of links for tools for the attack and TuTs as well as the
 WebHive URL.
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 52.
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 55.DNS Leak Checker: http://www.dnsleaktest.com/ 56.
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 58.**ATTACK DATES!!!**
 59.
 60.October 18th: http://www.camel.com/
 61.
 62.October 19th: http://www.lm.com/
 63.
 64.October 20th: http://www.marlboro.com/ 65.
 66.October 21st: http://www.newport-pleasure.com/ 67.
 68.October 22nd: http://www.rjrt.com/
 69.
 70.October 23rd: http://www.altria.com/
 71.
 72.October 24th: http://philipmorrisusa.com/ 73.
 74.October 25th: http://pmi.com/
 75.
 76.October 26th: http://www.johnmiddletonco.com/ 77.
 78.October 27th: http://www.lorillard.com/ 79.
 80.~~
 81.HOIC Booster Scripts
 82.
 83.Altria Booster: http://pastebin.com/Zx5Gqu6E 84.
 85.Camel Booster: http://pastebin.com/QbDYxHSR 86.
 87.JohnMiddleton Booster: http://pastebin.com/fibSqGKt 88.
 89.LM Booster: http://pastebin.com/ZV62sgzj 90.
 91.Lorillard Booster: http://pastebin.com/fpybW7NV 92.
 93.Marlboro Booster: http://pastebin.com/X09p2tbA 94.
 95.Newport Booster: http://pastebin.com/FgCVYU0F 96.
 97.PhilipMorris USA Booster: http://pastebin.com/Nnn8zvXA 98.
 99.PhilipMorris International Booster: http://pastebin.com/r02ZBiPz 100.
 

Re: Headers in Gmail

2012-10-09 Thread Jonathan Link
There are two drop down arrows.  The one to the right of Reply is the one
you want.  The other one, next to the To field, just shows slightly more
detail, not a full header.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 The time stamp in the upper right corner is next to a dropdown list.
 From that, choose 'show original'

 Kurt

 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:19 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.it wrote:
  Is it possible to read them ?
 
  How ?
 
 
 
  Guido Elia
 
  HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE
 
 
 
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Re: Why is it, in Notepad...

2012-10-03 Thread Jonathan Link
Useful posts?  You're a funny guy. :-)

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote:

 Oh, you did _not_ just bring up the Editor wars?!

 Sigh. I hope this list returns to useful posts before the end of the
 month... Sm:)e.

 BTW; pico and nano.

 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District


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 Subject: RE: Why is it, in Notepad...


  Emacs FTW!  vi sucks!  edlin rules. :)
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war
 
 
  Carl Webster
  Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
  http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/
 
  From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
  Subject: RE: Why is it, in Notepad...
 
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Re: How much is hype?

2012-10-01 Thread Jonathan Link
Yeah, this is a well crafted ad.
I'm suspicious, but a bit too lazy to do any real digging, but the fact
that the article was written the same day that the software was released
exclusively (on what I believe is a related party owned site[1])
Download.com makes me uber suspicious.

[1] Aren't download.com and cnet.com all under the same corporate umbrella?

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  Sounds almost too good to be true:
 
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57521983-83/exploitshield-appears-to-live-up-to-its-name/
 
  David Lum
  Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
  Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 Color me skeptical - more data needed.

 Kurt

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Re: How much is hype?

2012-10-01 Thread Jonathan Link
I left it unstated: I'm thinking that ZeroVulnerabilityLabs is probably
within that corporate umbrella, somewhere.
So, in the full disclosure part of things, I think there's definitely
something here...


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org wrote:

 Going to give it some testing in lab see if it holds up, looks promising,
 but like you said more data is needed. 

 ** **

 Z

 ** **

 Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

 Security Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 ezi...@lifespan.org

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, October 01, 2012 1:40 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: How much is hype?

 ** **

 Yeah, this is a well crafted ad.

 I'm suspicious, but a bit too lazy to do any real digging, but the fact
 that the article was written the same day that the software was released
 exclusively (on what I believe is a related party owned site[1])
 Download.com makes me uber suspicious.

 ** **

 [1] Aren't download.com and cnet.com all under the same corporate
 umbrella?

 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
  Sounds almost too good to be true:
 
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57521983-83/exploitshield-appears-to-live-up-to-its-name/
 
  David Lum
  Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
  Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 Color me skeptical - more data needed.

 Kurt


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Re: Everyone is the IT department

2012-09-28 Thread Jonathan Link
Doesn't Jamie usually win their competitions? :D

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

 **
 I reject your reality and substitute my own!

  --
 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:32 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Everyone is the IT department

  The one caution for IT professionals in all this is that those who could
 not make the transition from mainframe to mini and from mini to PC,
 ultimately lost out personally.  The overall ranks of IT swelled, but many
 missed the boat because they misread/resisted the changing trends.

 **

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 This reminds me of the old days when IT meant mainframes and terminals.
 User groups started setting up their own LANs and escaping our control.
 Various disasters relating to bad updates, security issues and such
 eventually brought the LANs under IT control. We are repeating history
 here, probably with the same results.

 Linda

  On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I disagree with this guy, but maybe because I’m so oldschool..

 

 “Dion Hinchcliffe, an analyst at the Dachis Group and a frequent blogger
 on the changing enterprise, says it's time for IT to acknowledge they can't
 control users. 

 

 Everyone in an organization is the IT department. There's really no
 gatekeeper anymore.

 

 Hinchcliffe, who's delivering a keynote at the CITE One-Day Forum in New
 York City on October 10, says that users are driving technology adoption in
 two critical areas: communciations, and self-service IT -- particularly in
 the form of mobile apps delivered through public app stores.

 

 The latter is particularly hard for some IT shops to accept, but it's
 reality, says Hinchcliffe. 

 

 IT depts are being disintermediated in a relentless way, and so quickly
 they can't even react to it. There are millions of apps in these app
 stores, they're disposable and free, they're easy to throw away if you want
 to. He continues, We're all consumers. That's the whole point of
 consumerization. We're all smart enough, we have tools, we can select and
 acquire software in minutes, try a whole bunch of things, and find the
 perfect thing for the task at hand. That cycle cant be supported by
 bureaucracy.

 

 Full article here:

 


 http://www.citeworld.com/consumerization/20680/dion-hinchcliffe-everyone-IT?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+citeworld%2Frss+%28CITEworld%29
 

 


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Re: Everyone is the IT department

2012-09-27 Thread Jonathan Link
Consider that you are not his audience...

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I disagree with this guy, but maybe because I’m so oldschool..

 ** **

 “Dion Hinchcliffe, an analyst at the Dachis Group and a frequent blogger
 on the changing enterprise, says it's time for IT to acknowledge they can't
 control users. 

  

 Everyone in an organization is the IT department. There's really no
 gatekeeper anymore.

 

 Hinchcliffe, who's delivering a keynote at the CITE One-Day Forum in New
 York City on October 10, says that users are driving technology adoption in
 two critical areas: communciations, and self-service IT -- particularly in
 the form of mobile apps delivered through public app stores.

 

 The latter is particularly hard for some IT shops to accept, but it's
 reality, says Hinchcliffe. 

  

 IT depts are being disintermediated in a relentless way, and so quickly
 they can't even react to it. There are millions of apps in these app
 stores, they're disposable and free, they're easy to throw away if you want
 to. He continues, We're all consumers. That's the whole point of
 consumerization. We're all smart enough, we have tools, we can select and
 acquire software in minutes, try a whole bunch of things, and find the
 perfect thing for the task at hand. That cycle cant be supported by
 bureaucracy.

 

 Full article here:

 ** **


 http://www.citeworld.com/consumerization/20680/dion-hinchcliffe-everyone-IT?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+citeworld%2Frss+%28CITEworld%29
 

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Re: Everyone is the IT department

2012-09-27 Thread Jonathan Link
I guess I should say I don't find this any different than any IT article
one of our directors brings to my attention, because he read it in the WSJ.
 My routine is usually to explain how we're already doing it, why we're not
doing it or how much it will really cost us to do it (right).

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:

 Consider that you are not his audience...


 On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I disagree with this guy, but maybe because I’m so oldschool..

 ** **

 “Dion Hinchcliffe, an analyst at the Dachis Group and a frequent blogger
 on the changing enterprise, says it's time for IT to acknowledge they can't
 control users. 

  

 Everyone in an organization is the IT department. There's really no
 gatekeeper anymore.

 

 Hinchcliffe, who's delivering a keynote at the CITE One-Day Forum in New
 York City on October 10, says that users are driving technology adoption in
 two critical areas: communciations, and self-service IT -- particularly in
 the form of mobile apps delivered through public app stores.

 

 The latter is particularly hard for some IT shops to accept, but it's
 reality, says Hinchcliffe. 

  

 IT depts are being disintermediated in a relentless way, and so quickly
 they can't even react to it. There are millions of apps in these app
 stores, they're disposable and free, they're easy to throw away if you want
 to. He continues, We're all consumers. That's the whole point of
 consumerization. We're all smart enough, we have tools, we can select and
 acquire software in minutes, try a whole bunch of things, and find the
 perfect thing for the task at hand. That cycle cant be supported by
 bureaucracy.

 

 Full article here:

 ** **


 http://www.citeworld.com/consumerization/20680/dion-hinchcliffe-everyone-IT?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+citeworld%2Frss+%28CITEworld%29
 

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Re: Pen test vendors

2012-09-26 Thread Jonathan Link
The only danger there is that he might get pulled into Steve Gibson and Leo
Laporte land...


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  My 19yr old is a computer geek wannabe (he has done misc. work for me
 and picks stuff up QUICK). Today I asked if he was serious about wanting to
 be an IT guy like me, to which he replied in the affirmative. I told him
 his first task is to “Tell me who Kevin Mitnik is, list some things he’s
 done, and why might an IT guy care about knowing this”. I figure I’ll get
 him on the security slant first. J

 ** **

 Dave

 ** **

 *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:11 AM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors

  ** **

 Hee hee!

 ** **

 He’s been a (very) successful security consultant since 2000,

 and he’s a real business partner of mine in KnowBe4.  Great

 guy to work with too. We wrote the Kevin Mitnick Security

 Awareness Training together over an 8 month period.


 Stu 

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:55 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Cc:* rich...@gmail.com
 *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors

 ** **

 LOL Stu, 

 ** **

 You know Kevin is Banned from touching computers anymore… J 

 ** **

 Z

 ** **

 Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

 Security Engineer

 Lifespan Organization

 ezi...@lifespan.org

 ** **

 *From:* Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:50 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Cc:* 'rich...@gmail.com'
 *Subject:* RE: Pen test vendors

 ** **

 Richard,

 ** **

 If it’s a relatively straightforward outside-in vulnerability check that
 gives

 you  the low-hanging fruit, combined with an hour of consulting by a
 white-hat

 hacker, than I can do that for you here at KnowBe4 for a –very- low price.
 

 http://www.knowbe4.com/products/vulnerability-scanning/

 ** **

 If you want a high-end pen test done, I can get you in touch with my
 business partner Kevin Mitnick.

 ** **

 Warm regards,

 Stu 

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com rich...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 11:20 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Pen test vendors

 ** **

 Anyone have recommendations for reputable external pen and vulnerability
 testing vendors?

 ** **

 Thanks,
 Richard

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Re: This is what I get....

2012-09-18 Thread Jonathan Link
Are those calls documented?  And what was the nature of the call?

After the initial transition, this will actually make admin's lives easier,
since they have a more controlled environment to work in.

Yeah, some things are easier when they have admin rights, but that doesn't
mean that users should be doing those things, either.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  Here’s how much fight I get when I even SUGGEST we should be removing
 admin right from our users.

 ** **

 Worthy to note  I am not a local admin on my own NWEA machine, and none
 of my %sidejob% clients are local admins on theirs. This guy knows this,
 but still fights me every time.

 ** **

 This reply incensed me enough to start again working on the management
 buy-in, as it’s a lot harder to stop a top down order.

 ** **


 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:35 AM
 *To:* David Lum
 *Subject:* RE: IE 0-day, MS releases bulletin

 ** **

 We have this very rare instance of a Zero Day attack in IE for a few sites
 and you think that is a reason to create the complete nightmare of taking
 away Admin rights to a local machine.  Clearly you don’t know how often our
 users are using their admin rights on their machines.  The SD got a
 call once a week from the ONE person who had that setup when she was moved
 to Windows 7.   If we spent some time building the infrastructure that
 makes such a situation workable (like I did at the school district I worked
 at), then we could live with our 500 users not being admins.

 ** **

 David Grand

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:24 AM
 *Subject:* IE 0-day, MS releases bulletin

 ** **

 Please read this article and weigh in on the suggested workarounds.

 ** **

 Microsoft has released a bulletin on this, and has suggested workarounds.
 Most can be achieved via GPO:

 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2757760

 ** **

 Note 1: “An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could
 gain the same user rights as the current user. Users whose accounts are
 configured to have fewer user rights on the system could be less impacted
 than users who operate with administrative user rights.”

 *SD – this exact scenario is the benefit of users not being local
 administrators.*

 ** **

 Note 2: Some of this is already done via the Trusted Site GPO. Their
 additional recommendations recommend disabling ActiveX for Internet and
 Local Intranet. The latter would disable some Commons functionality, but we
 can disable it on the Internet site zone temporarily. Even this will
 generate Service Desk calls but I feel this is worth mitigating the risk.*
 ***

 ** **

 Dave

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum
 *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2012 12:39 PM
 *Subject:* Just so you know that I know..

 ** **

 0-day of the week:

 ** **


 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231367/Hackers_exploit_new_IE_zero_day_vulnerability?source=rss_latest_contentutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fnews%2Ffeed+%28Latest+from+Computerworld%29
 

 ** **

 Dave

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Re: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
♫ There's nothing I can really say
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Re: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
I figured people would catch it...as to whether it would get comments...
 Well...  :D

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.eduwrote:

  I knew that sounded familiar. J

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Re: I don't see any problems with this

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Different state...

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote:

 On 11 Sep 2012 at 13:49, Jonathan Link  wrote:

  Not at all...
  In other news, I'm moving to Montana, living off the land and going off
  the grid...

 Don't change your name to Randy Weaver.


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Re: Password policy question

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Introduce him to something like Lastpass...

And also point to him all the news articles for breaches, including the
latest one for LinkedIn (he's on it, right?).

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:

 I told him the other day that I have about 15 - 20 different passwords
 that I remember on a daily bases, he did not think that was possible, I
 think it's very important not to have the same login and password for
 everything, actually a sales guy just had his Linkedin, Yahoo accounts
 compromised and also his Aeroplan miles stolen.
 So I'm working on the President to add a few more variations on his
 password, we'll see. Anyhow for the rest of the company, I'm starting to
 enforce complex passwords.

 Stefan

 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

  Because no doubt he's the most careful employee when it comes to
 password security :-)
 John W. Cook
 Network Operations Manager
 Partnership for Strong Families

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 *Sent*: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 01:16 PM
 *To*: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject*: Re: Password policy question

  Thanks Jonathan, just needed to confirm, the President does not want to
 change his password, so I'll leave his as never expire.

 Stefan

  On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 That's correct, Never expire takes precedence.

  On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.comwrote:

  Windows 2003 AD, if i turn on “Maximum password age� in GP but a user
 have Password never expire set in Active Directory Users and Computers I
 assume that it will not affect that user, am I correct it that assumption?


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Re: Something for the thin client crowd...

2012-09-12 Thread Jonathan Link
And it's Viewsonic...  My experience with their monitors over the lest few
years has been...less than stellar.  Trusting them to do a whole
computer... yeah, I'm going to pass...

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:

 That's a pretty hefty tablet - it outweighs my son's 17 Alienware laptop.
 John W. Cook
 Network Operations Manager
 Partnership for Strong Families

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 07:35 PM
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 Subject: Re: Something for the thin client crowd...

 Except you can connect keyboard and mouse to it...

 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So its like a tablet you can't take anywhere?
 
  - Sean
 
  On Sep 12, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  22 Android
  http://www.viewsonic.com/products/vsd220.htm
 
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Re: I don't see any problems with this

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Link
Not at all...
In other news, I'm moving to Montana, living off the land and going off the
grid...


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you?

 Kurt




 http://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2012/09/get-ready-computers-worldwide-automatically-smother-cyber-strikes/57977/

 By Aliya Sternstein
 Nextgov
 September 10, 2012

 The federal government is strategizing to build a virtual community
 that would prompt computers worldwide to instantly, en mass, suppress
 cyberattacks, sometimes without humans at the keyboard.

 The so-called cyber ecosystem would take “collective action” to
 galvanize cooperation among networks, external devices, and consumers,
 the Obama administration announced today.

 “Computer systems, devices, applications and users will automatically
 work together in near real time to anticipate and prevent
 cyberattacks, automatically respond to attacks while continuing normal
 operations, evolve to address new threats, limit the spread of attacks
 across participating devices,” as well as share timely security
 information, a government research solicitation stated.

 The Homeland Security Department and National Institute of Standards
 and Technology are seeking public input on the potential benefits and
 challenges of the approach before forging ahead with construction.

 [...]

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Re: I don't see any problems with this

2012-09-11 Thread Jonathan Link
3 felonies a day...

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

 I knew that one day it would become criminal to be a libertarian.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:07 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: I don't see any problems with this

 Oh yes - the pre-crime unit will be by your office today to escort you to
 the kindness facility for thought retraining. Please be prepared.

 Kurt

 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:
  You are joking, right?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:48 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: I don't see any problems with this
 
  Do you?
 
  Kurt
 
 
 
  http://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2012/09/get-ready-computers-world
  wide-automatically-smother-cyber-strikes/57977/
 
  By Aliya Sternstein
  Nextgov
  September 10, 2012
 
  The federal government is strategizing to build a virtual community that
 would prompt computers worldwide to instantly, en mass, suppress
 cyberattacks, sometimes without humans at the keyboard.
 
  The so-called cyber ecosystem would take “collective action” to
 galvanize cooperation among networks, external devices, and consumers, the
 Obama administration announced today.
 
  “Computer systems, devices, applications and users will automatically
 work together in near real time to anticipate and prevent cyberattacks,
 automatically respond to attacks while continuing normal operations, evolve
 to address new threats, limit the spread of attacks across participating
 devices,” as well as share timely security information, a government
 research solicitation stated.
 
  The Homeland Security Department and National Institute of Standards and
 Technology are seeking public input on the potential benefits and
 challenges of the approach before forging ahead with construction.
 
  [...]
 
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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Sometimes businesses are compelled to choose products because of
requirements. If we didn't have certain Line of Business applications our
environment would look very different.

On Saturday, September 8, 2012, Ken Schaefer wrote:

  If you’re that amazed, and think that Microsoft is that much of a
 screw-up, I’m amazed that you use their products in your environment.

 ** **

 Cheers

 Ken

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', 'jonathan.l...@gmail.com');]
 *Sent:* Friday, 7 September 2012 11:41 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Did y'all know...

 ** **

 Your confidence in Microsoft amazes me...

 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 

 I’m pretty sure there’s a direct line between the Adobe Flash people and
 the Microsoft IE people…

  

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, 7 September 2012 11:32 PM


 *To:* NT System Admin Issues

 *Subject:* RE: Did y'all know...

  

 “If these policies are retained, then there will be a systematic
 vulnerability window. Microsoft will patch Internet Explorer, and then a
 week or two later, Adobe will reveal a raft of new Flash security flaws
 when it patches Flash. Windows users will then have to wait several weeks
 for Microsoft's next update”

  

 Hopefully MS will sort this one out.

  

 *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:16 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Did y'all know...

  

 ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside
 of the Microsoft update release channel?

  

 I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update
 my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let
 me.

  


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/
 

  

 Wow

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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Works for online banking systems.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

  Always an excuse…

 ** **

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:36 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Did y'all know...

 ** **

 Sometimes businesses are compelled to choose products because of
 requirements. If we didn't have certain Line of Business applications our
 environment would look very different.

 On Saturday, September 8, 2012, Ken Schaefer wrote:

 If you’re that amazed, and think that Microsoft is that much of a
 screw-up, I’m amazed that you use their products in your environment.

  

 Cheers

 Ken

  

 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, 7 September 2012 11:41 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Did y'all know...

  

 Your confidence in Microsoft amazes me..

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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-07 Thread Jonathan Link
Your confidence in Microsoft amazes me...

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

  I’m pretty sure there’s a direct line between the Adobe Flash people and
 the Microsoft IE people…

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Friday, 7 September 2012 11:32 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Did y'all know...

  ** **

 “If these policies are retained, then there will be a systematic
 vulnerability window. Microsoft will patch Internet Explorer, and then a
 week or two later, Adobe will reveal a raft of new Flash security flaws
 when it patches Flash. Windows users will then have to wait several weeks
 for Microsoft's next update”

 ** **

 Hopefully MS will sort this one out.

 ** **

 *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:16 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Did y'all know...

 ** **

 ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside
 of the Microsoft update release channel?

 ** **

 I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update
 my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let
 me.

 ** **


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/
 

 ** **

 Wow

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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-07 Thread Jonathan Link
Bears repeating.
Your confidence in Microsoft amazes me.

On Friday, September 7, 2012, Daniel Rodriguez wrote:

 Yeah. Like two tin cans and string. :)

 Daniel
 On Sep 7, 2012 9:37 AM, Ken Schaefer 
 k...@adopenstatic.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'k...@adopenstatic.com');
 wrote:

  I’m pretty sure there’s a direct line between the Adobe Flash people
 and the Microsoft IE people…

 ** **

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'david@nwea.org');]
 *Sent:* Friday, 7 September 2012 11:32 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Did y'all know...

 ** **

 “If these policies are retained, then there will be a systematic
 vulnerability window. Microsoft will patch Internet Explorer, and then a
 week or two later, Adobe will reveal a raft of new Flash security flaws
 when it patches Flash. Windows users will then have to wait several weeks
 for Microsoft's next update”

 ** **

 Hopefully MS will sort this one out.

 ** **

 *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] javascript:_e({},
 'cvml', '[mailto:rich...@gmail.com]');
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 06, 2012 7:16 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Did y'all know...

 ** **

 ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside
 of the Microsoft update release channel?

 ** **

 I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update
 my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let
 me.

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 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/
 

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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-06 Thread Jonathan Link
Chrome it is, then!

On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Richard Stovall wrote:

 ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside
 of the Microsoft update release channel?

 I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update
 my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let
 me.


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/

 Wow.

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Re: Did y'all know...

2012-09-06 Thread Jonathan Link
Oh the irony.

On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Sean Martin wrote:

 From the article...

 Internet Explorer 10 bundles Adobe 
 Flashhttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/windows-8-will-integrate-include-adobe-flash/,
 with Microsoft taking on responsibility for shipping updates to the
 integrated plugin. One repercussion of this arrangement is that Adobe's
 patches and autoupdate mechanism can't be used; they can update the
 standalone version used by Firefox, but not the embedded version in
 Internet Explorer. *The same is true of Chrome; it includes an embedded
 version of Flash, and the only way to update that is with a Chrome update.
 Adobe's updater can't touch it.*


 - Sean

 On Sep 6, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Jonathan Link 
 jonathan.l...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 
 'jonathan.l...@gmail.com');
 wrote:

 Chrome it is, then!

 On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Richard Stovall wrote:

 ... that MS baked Flash into IE 10, and that you can't update it outside
 of the Microsoft update release channel?

 I discovered this tonight when Secunia PSI was screaming at me to update
 my shiny new Win 8 playpen, but then I couldn't do it because MS won't let
 me.


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/internet-explorer-10s-bundled-flash-leaves-users-exploitable/

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Re: Another Exploit discovered in Java to escape sandbox and run code in context of the logged on user.

2012-08-31 Thread Jonathan Link
How does one patch a mega corporation?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Such are the drawbacks of patching the symptom and not the underlying
 cause...


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 Technology for the SMB market…

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 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.orgwrote:

 Did I not tell you they was going to find another, only a day after they
 posted Update 7. 


 http://www.cio.com/article/715219/Researchers_find_critical_vulnerability_in_Java_7_patch_hours_after_release
 

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 This is from the same guys that told Oracle about the one they just
 patched like 4 months ago. 

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 Z

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Re: Quickbooks getting slower and slower

2012-08-31 Thread Jonathan Link
Uhh, popups?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:58 PM, ANDREW F OFALT afo...@psu.edu wrote:

 Well, we have standalone clients, so its not the server.
 On a couple of machines I worked on reinstalling .NET 1, 1.1,2,3,3.5
 seemed to fix a quickbooks problem.
 On others I have noticed that Quickbooks sometimes updated or installed
 some .NET software.
 On others I noticed that there are .NET updates that have not installed,
 but quickbooks runs ok.
 So I am not sure it is .NET, but suspecting it *might* have something to
 do with some of the slowness and popups we are seeing on some computers.

 So I am thinking that Quickbooks has some .NET code in it.  Maybe, but,
 not a lot of time has been spent on Quickbooks.

 Just looking for verification, so I threw it out there.

 Andy0

 - Original Message -
 What particular reason are you suspecting .NET to be the problem?

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 -
 From: ANDREW F OFALT afo...@psu.edu
 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Quickbooks getting slower and slower


 on ours, i have been suspecting .NET, but I have not been able to prove it
 yet.

 Andy0

 - Original Message -
 Found out that Intuit remotely moved Quickbooks from the server (wish I had
 known this earlier, lol) to a user's PC in hopes of fixing the problem.
 That's the Database Service wasn't running on the server.  However, it
 wasn't performing any better on the user's workstation either.  Doing the
 same tasks in a different Quickbooks file such as the sample file, results
 in things working as fast as expected.  Only when using the company file do
 things get slow...  So now we're waiting on a response from Intuit's
 datamanagement team.  Fun.

 Thanks for the tips.



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 From: Hank . hgedr...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:28:42 -0400
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Quickbooks getting slower and slower


 The database service definitely needs to be running.  Even though they
 tout they have an enterprise version it really isn't a true database
 server. So stuff still works but really slow when the database service
 isn't running.


 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:00 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
 jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
  wrote:

  I just checked, and the QuickbooksDB22 service (Description listed as
  Quickbooks Database Service is set for Disabled. The Logon As account
  for that service is .\QBDataServiceUser22... Strange that it's disabled,
  especially since you said your issues went away after it was running.  I
  might call Intuit and see if that service is supposed to be running.  ??
 
  Aside from that, I can't find anything wrong on the service except
 messages
  once per day related to the USB backup drive Seagate GoFlex Desk Adapter
  3.0.  The event log shows The driver detected a controller error on
  \device\harddisk2\dr2 nearly every other day at 7am (no idea the
  significance of 7am since my backups run at Noon and 11pm to that drive).
  I'm doubting this is related to the slowness issue with Quickbooks
 however
  since those errors go back longer than when users started reporting
  slowness with Quickbooks.  I may still run a chkdsk /r on the server
  anyways... ?
 
 
  J
 
 
 
  Original Message:
  -
  From: Hank . hgedr...@gmail.com
  Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:40:05 -0400
  To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Subject: Re: Quickbooks getting slower and slower
 
 
  The enterprise version is not true client server (thats why you still
  need to have a share with wide open permissions to the company files) so
  make sure networking is solid.
 
  I had one case where the database service didn't start on the server
 and
  the users complained about slowness.
 
  How big is the company file?
 
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:45 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
  jesse-r...@wi.rr.comwrote:
 
   Have a customer with an SBS2011 server.   Server is basically brand new
   (good specs).  For the last 4 months, no issues.  Then over the last 3
   weeks, their Quickbooks (Enterprise 12.0) has been getting slower and
   slower when saving invoices and work orders, etc.  Initially it would
  start
   taking 2 minutes, or 5 minutes, and now 10 minutes just to save a
 single
   invoice or work order.  Prior to 3 weeks ago, everything was fast as
 can
   be.
  
   Quickbooks support hasn't been too helpful -- they keep pointing at the
   server itself, but Task Manager and Resource Monitor don't show any
 areas
   of bottlenecking (CPU, memory, disk, etc.).  Users also say it doesn't
   matter if only ONE person is in the office, and using Quickbooks, they
   still get the slowness problems... So it's not load related either.
  
   I'm guessing right now there's something corrupt wiht the database
 maybe
  or
   a problem with Quickbooks, but this is just a wild guess at this time.
  
   Thoughts?
   J
  
  
   

Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins

2012-08-30 Thread Jonathan Link
Permissions for installing printer drivers?
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/install-network-printers-without-local-admin/b21aa72b-5a7f-485d-999e-f844e7d4a550



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Matthew W. Ross
mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote:

 Good Afternoon.

 I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2
 Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted
 to deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason,
 Administrators see the printers. Non-admins do not.

 I am using the Print Management GUI to deploy the printers. I have them
 deployed via a Group Policy that is assigned to all computers in an OU, not
 users. The printers are being setup as TCP/IP printers and the drivers are
 being distributed by the print server.

 Now... why is this working in all of my labs that I have setup but this
 one? And why only Admins? Has anybody else run into this problem?


 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District

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Re: VMware drops vRAM pricing

2012-08-28 Thread Jonathan Link
Discussed last week... :-)

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Just saw this announcment from VMware re their vRAM pricing being
 dropped in vSphere 5.1


 http://www.cio.com/article/714918/VMware_Kills_vRAM_Pricing_With_vSphere_5.1?source=CIONLE_nlt_network_2012-08-28

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