Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-05-15 Thread David W. McSpadden
In Exchange 2003 how do I verify it is pointing to the new DC.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange aware 
of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we have 
hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even though 
the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all was 
happy again.  

  As others have said but just to sum it all up:
  1.  build up your new dc
  2.  move FSMO roles
  3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
  4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

  At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just 
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping 
it.  


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables 
on Exchange?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait.. 
check for replications …  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC




The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps 
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s 
environment is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was 
implied…



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I 
am building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be 
sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???



 

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-05-15 Thread Free, Bob
http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/43584/q-how-can-i-determine-wh
ich-domain-controllers-dcs-my-microsoft-exchange-server-system-is-using.
html

 

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

In Exchange 2003 how do I verify it is pointing to the new DC.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and
Exchange aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the
other two dc's we have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and
Exchange quit working (even though the other two were global catalog
servers), ran the domainprep and all was happy again.  

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not
more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the
new dc, just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the
domain and scrapping it.  

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden
dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all
the tables on Exchange?

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs
sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication
times. Wait  Wait.. check for replications ...  Done.

 

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each
of those steps for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how
big the OP's environment is) wasn't stated in your message, although
could be that it was implied...

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC
promo move the appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of
one of them.  I am building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server
has so I can be sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate
the roles???

 

 

 

 

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-05-15 Thread David W. McSpadden
Perfect!
Thanks
  - Original Message - 
  From: Free, Bob 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:18 PM
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  
http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/43584/q-how-can-i-determine-which-domain-controllers-dcs-my-microsoft-exchange-server-system-is-using.html

   

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:05 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  In Exchange 2003 how do I verify it is pointing to the new DC.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange 
aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we 
have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even 
though the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all 
was happy again.  

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, 
just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and 
scrapping it.  

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables 
on Exchange?

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sherry Abercrombie 

  To: NT System Admin Issues 

  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM

  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

  Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times... Wait .. Wait.. 
check for replications .  Done.

   

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps 
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's 
environment is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was 
implied.

   

  From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

  Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

  Am I missing something?

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


  Rick

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

  I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be 
sure to get them on the new server.

  What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

   

  

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread David W. McSpadden

Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

- Original Message - 
From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com

To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
place??
I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.* /secvoyhkdr


 Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

/E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
/COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
/DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread David W. McSpadden
I don't see /DCOPY in the /? from command line.  
Is DCOPY in Vista but not Win2k3??
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  ROBOCOPY.EXE /?, and check what is wrong with the syntax.  Its pretty easy to 
figure out.

  --
  ME2



  On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

- Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

  I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
  place??
  I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.* /secvoyhkdr


 Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

/E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
/COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
/DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~






 

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
its a typo.

--
ME2


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

  I don't see /DCOPY in the /? from command line.
 Is DCOPY in Vista but not Win2k3??

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 12:00 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 ROBOCOPY.EXE /?, and check what is wrong with the syntax.  Its pretty easy
 to figure out.

 --
 ME2


 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

 Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
 I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

 - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org
 wrote:

 I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
 place??
 I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.* /secvoyhkdr


  Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

 ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

 /E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
 /COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
 /DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~












~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread David W. McSpadden
I don't think it is.  He explains it later in the same message and uses the 
same syntax.  Google came back with it in Vista.
I think all I want is /E /COPYALL and that should be enough.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  its a typo.

  --
  ME2



  On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

I don't see /DCOPY in the /? from command line.  
Is DCOPY in Vista but not Win2k3??
  - Original Message - 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  ROBOCOPY.EXE /?, and check what is wrong with the syntax.  Its pretty 
easy to figure out.

  --
  ME2



  On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org 
wrote:

Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

- Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:24 PM 

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org 
wrote:

  I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
  place??
  I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.* /secvoyhkdr


 Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

/E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
/COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
/DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~






 




 





 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
You're right, its not a typo for the timestamp bugfix in the Vista version
of ROBOCOPY.

--
ME2


On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:22 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

  I don't think it is.  He explains it later in the same message and uses
 the same syntax.  Google came back with it in Vista.
 I think all I want is /E /COPYALL and that should be enough.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 12:19 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 its a typo.

 --
 ME2


 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

  I don't see /DCOPY in the /? from command line.
 Is DCOPY in Vista but not Win2k3??

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
   *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2009 12:00 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 ROBOCOPY.EXE /?, and check what is wrong with the syntax.  Its pretty easy
 to figure out.

 --
 ME2


 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

 Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
 I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

 - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org
 wrote:

 I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
 place??
 I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.* /secvoyhkdr


  Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

 ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

 /E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
 /COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
 /DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~





















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:
 Ben I got a usage error for /DCOPY:T ??
 I am using robocopy from the Resource Kit??

  There's a newer version of ROBOCOPY available, even for XP/2000.
Version ID is XP026.  It adds the /DCOPY (Directory Copy) switch,
among several other things.

  Annoyingly, Microsoft only distributes it within the the Robocopy
GUI package from a Utility Spotlight article for TechNet Magazine.
(How's *THAT* for a distribution channel?)  It's still a freebie,
though.  And you don't need the Robocopy GUI to use it.  The original
URL is:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2006.11.utilityspotlight.aspx

  If you don't care about directory timestamps, then the ROBOCOPY from
a Resource Kit should be okay, I think.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread David W. McSpadden
One other question.
I have all the user files on the old DC.
I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in place??
I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr
This doesn't keep my permissions though...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange aware 
of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we have 
hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even though 
the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all was 
happy again.  

  As others have said but just to sum it all up:
  1.  build up your new dc
  2.  move FSMO roles
  3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
  4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

  At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just 
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping 
it.  


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables 
on Exchange?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait.. 
check for replications …  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC




The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps 
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s 
environment is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was 
implied…



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I 
am building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be 
sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???



 

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Stefan Jafs
Your DC is also your File Server?

___
Stefan Jafs

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

One other question.
I have all the user files on the old DC.
I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in place??
I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\file:///\\olddc\users\*.* 
\\newdc\users\file:///\\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr
This doesn't keep my permissions though...

- Original Message -
From: Sherry Abercrombiemailto:saber...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange aware 
of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we have 
hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even though 
the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all was 
happy again.

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just 
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping it.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden 
dav...@imcu.orgmailto:dav...@imcu.org wrote:
Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables on 
Exchange?
- Original Message -
From: Sherry Abercrombiemailto:saber...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs 
sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times. Wait  Wait.. 
check for replications ...  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.milmailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps for 
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's environment 
is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was implied...



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.milmailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.orgmailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread David W. McSpadden
User files have always been on a separate drive.  
C: is 2 mirrored 72GB drives
and E: is 6 Raid 5 300GB drives.
Users directories are on E:

  - Original Message - 
  From: Stefan Jafs 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:23 AM
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  Your DC is also your File Server?

   

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:22 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  One other question.

  I have all the user files on the old DC.

  I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in place??

  I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr

  This doesn't keep my permissions though...

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange 
aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we 
have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even 
though the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all 
was happy again.  

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, 
just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and 
scrapping it.  

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables 
on Exchange?

  - Original Message - 

  From: Sherry Abercrombie 

  To: NT System Admin Issues 

  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM

  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

  Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times... Wait .. Wait.. 
check for replications .  Done.

   

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps 
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's 
environment is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was 
implied.

   

  From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

  Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

  Am I missing something?

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


  Rick

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

  I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be 
sure to get them on the new server.

  What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

   

  

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Stefan Jafs
Ok probably not Best Practices!
Anyhow  try robocopy much more control!

___
Stefan Jafs

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

User files have always been on a separate drive.
C: is 2 mirrored 72GB drives
and E: is 6 Raid 5 300GB drives.
Users directories are on E:

- Original Message -
From: Stefan Jafsmailto:sj...@amico.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Your DC is also your File Server?

___
Stefan Jafs

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

One other question.
I have all the user files on the old DC.
I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in place??
I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\file:///\\olddc\users\*.* 
\\newdc\users\file:///\\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr
This doesn't keep my permissions though...

- Original Message -
From: Sherry Abercrombiemailto:saber...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange aware 
of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we have 
hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even though 
the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all was 
happy again.

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just 
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping it.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden 
dav...@imcu.orgmailto:dav...@imcu.org wrote:
Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables on 
Exchange?
- Original Message -
From: Sherry Abercrombiemailto:saber...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs 
sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times. Wait  Wait.. 
check for replications ...  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.milmailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps for 
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's environment 
is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was implied...



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.commailto:sj...@amico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.milmailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.orgmailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Take a look at Delta Copy.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

  One other question.
 I have all the user files on the old DC.
 I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
 place??
 I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr
 This doesn't keep my permissions though...


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange
 aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's
 we have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working
 (even though the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep
 and all was happy again.

 As others have said but just to sum it all up:
 1.  build up your new dc
 2.  move FSMO roles
 3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
 4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

 At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc,
 just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and
 scrapping it.

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

  Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the
 tables on Exchange?

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
   *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

  Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait..
 check for replications …  Done.



 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:
 rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps
 for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s
 environment is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was
 implied…



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the
 appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

 Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

 Am I missing something?

 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:
 rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
 http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


 Rick



 *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing Win2k3 DC



 I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
 building a server to replace it.

 I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be
 sure to get them on the new server.

 What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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 for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should
 not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions
 expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those
 of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been
 taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot
 accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this
 email or attachments.









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 for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should
 not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions
 expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those
 of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been
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 email or attachments.








 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke
 Sent from Haslet, TX, United States












 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke
 Sent from Haslet, TX

RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Christopher Bodnar
RoboCopy will do this. I also highly recommend SecureCopy
http://www.scriptlogic.com/Products/securecopy/ They have a 30 day trial. 

 

 

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

One other question.

I have all the user files on the old DC.

I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
place??

I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\ file:///\\olddc\users\ *.*
\\newdc\users\ file:///\\newdc\users\ *.*  /secvoyhkdr

This doesn't keep my permissions though...

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange
aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's
we have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working
(even though the other two were global catalog servers), ran the
domainprep and all was happy again.  

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc,
just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and
scrapping it.  

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org
wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables
on Exchange?

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry mailto:saber...@gmail.com  Abercrombie 

To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times... Wait .. Wait..
check for replications .  Done.

 

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's
environment is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it
was implied.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be
sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

 

 

 

 

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Jay Dale
robocopy

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

One other question.

I have all the user files on the old DC.

I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
place??

I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\ file:///\\olddc\users\ *.*
\\newdc\users\ file:///\\newdc\users\ *.*  /secvoyhkdr

This doesn't keep my permissions though...

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and
Exchange aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the
other two dc's we have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and
Exchange quit working (even though the other two were global catalog
servers), ran the domainprep and all was happy again.  

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not
more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the
new dc, just let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the
domain and scrapping it.  

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden
dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all
the tables on Exchange?

- Original Message - 

From: Sherry Abercrombie mailto:saber...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM

Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs
sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication
times. Wait  Wait.. check for replications ...  Done.

 

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each
of those steps for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how
big the OP's environment is) wasn't stated in your message, although
could be that it was implied...

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC
promo move the appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of
one of them.  I am building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server
has so I can be sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate
the roles???

 

 

 

 

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:
 I can copy from one to the other but how do I keep the permissions in
 place??
 I will use xcopy \\olddc\users\*.* \\newdc\users\*.*  /secvoyhkdr

  Don't use XCOPY, use ROBOCOPY.

ROBOCOPY \\olddc\users \\newdc\users /E /COPYALL /DCOPY:T

/E = everything (subdirs, files, empty subdirs, etc.)
/COPYALL = dates, attributes, permissions, auditing, etc.
/DCOPY:T = directory timestamps

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Here is how to find them:

http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

To replace a DC...bring the new one up with a new name. Move the rolls you need 
to off the old one either to the new one or to the other DC's. You do that with 
the GUI tool that is listed in the chart at the link above.

DCPromo the old DC to remove the DC role. That makes it a member server. Go 
have coffee to let it all shake out and replicate then remove that DC (now a 
member server) from the domain.


From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.
I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.
What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???





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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread KenM
If you are talking about FSMO roles

netdom /query fsmo






On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.orgwrote:

  I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
 building a server to replace it.
 I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure
 to get them on the new server.
 What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???







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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Christopher Bodnar
This will get you started:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324801

 

You may have other issues as well. GC placement. DNS, WINS, DHCP, RIS,
WSUS, etc..

 

It's a really good idea to have all this documented someplace so when the
time comes to do a migration you have all the information at hand. 

 

YMMV

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be
sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

 

 



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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread David W. McSpadden
What about Exchange 2k3 will it have to be modified to point authenication to 
the new one or will it survive with the other two that are still up???
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kennedy, Jim 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:03 PM
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  Here is how to find them:

   

  http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

   

  To replace a DC.bring the new one up with a new name. Move the rolls you need 
to off the old one either to the new one or to the other DC's. You do that with 
the GUI tool that is listed in the chart at the link above.

   

  DCPromo the old DC to remove the DC role. That makes it a member server. Go 
have coffee to let it all shake out and replicate then remove that DC (now a 
member server) from the domain.

   

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

  I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure 
to get them on the new server.

  What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

   

 


 

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure
to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

 

 

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Stefan Jafs
If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.
Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.
Am I missing something?
___
Stefan Jafs

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htmblockedhttp://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

Rick

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.
I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.
What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread John Cook
I'd make the other DCs Global Catalogs if they aren't already.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
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From: Stefan Jafs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wed Apr 22 13:24:47 2009
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC
If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.
Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.
Am I missing something?
___
Stefan Jafs

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htmblockedhttp://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

Rick

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.
I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.
What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps for
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's environment
is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was implied.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm
blockedhttp://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm 


Rick

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure
to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

 

 

 

 

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread David W. McSpadden
I was playing with the csvde tool getting some settings out of AD last week and 
there are about 7200 objects total in AD.
I think that is small but it is all relative I guess.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:53 PM
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps for 
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's environment 
is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was implied.

   

  From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

  Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

  Am I missing something?

  ___

  Stefan Jafs

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


  Rick

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

   

  I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

  I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure 
to get them on the new server.

  What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???

   

  

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RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Stefan Jafs
Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times. Wait  Wait.. 
check for replications ...  Done.

___
Stefan Jafs

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

The only thing that I'd add is some time in between each of those steps for 
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP's environment 
is) wasn't stated in your message, although could be that it was implied...

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.
Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.
Am I missing something?
___
Stefan Jafs

From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC

Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htmblockedhttp://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm

Rick

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC

I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.
I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure to 
get them on the new server.
What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

  Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait..
 check for replications …  Done.



 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps for
 replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s environment
 is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was implied…



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the
 appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

 Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

 Am I missing something?

 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]

 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
 http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


 Rick



 *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing Win2k3 DC



 I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
 building a server to replace it.

 I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure
 to get them on the new server.

 What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread David W. McSpadden
Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables on 
Exchange?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait.. 
check for replications …  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps for 
replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s environment 
is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was implied…



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am 
building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be sure 
to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???



 

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange
aware of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's
we have hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working
(even though the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep
and all was happy again.

As others have said but just to sum it all up:
1.  build up your new dc
2.  move FSMO roles
3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping
it.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

  Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables
 on Exchange?

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

 DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

  Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait..
 check for replications …  Done.



 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:
 rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps
 for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s
 environment is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was
 implied…



 *From:* Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the
 appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

 Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

 Am I missing something?

 *___*

 *Stefan Jafs*



 *From:* Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC [mailto:
 rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



 Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:
 http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


 Rick



 *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Replacing Win2k3 DC



 I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I am
 building a server to replace it.

 I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be
 sure to get them on the new server.

 What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???









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 or attachments.









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 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke
 Sent from Haslet, TX, United States












-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Haslet, TX, United States

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Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC

2009-04-22 Thread David W. McSpadden
Thanks
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  Yeah, I think that's all you need to do.  It just makes it and Exchange aware 
of one another.  We had to rebuild a DC recently, the other two dc's we have 
hadn't had the domainprep run on them, and Exchange quit working (even though 
the other two were global catalog servers), ran the domainprep and all was 
happy again.  

  As others have said but just to sum it all up:
  1.  build up your new dc
  2.  move FSMO roles
  3.  dcpromo old dc to demote it
  4.  and wait, we typically give it at least 24 hours if not more..

  At this point, you are in no hurry, you've replaced it with the new dc, just 
let it sit for a day or two before removing it from the domain and scrapping 
it.  


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.org wrote:

Just that one will grab the new DC name and insert it into all the tables 
on Exchange?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sherry Abercrombie 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Replacing Win2k3 DC


  DomainPrep from the Exchange 2003 cd on the new DC.


  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Stefan Jafs sj...@amico.com wrote:

Yes I should have mentioned the DC replication times….. Wait …. Wait.. 
check for replications …  Done.



___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC




The only thing that I’d add is some time in between each of those steps 
for replication etc.. (this could be depending upon how big the OP’s 
environment is) wasn’t stated in your message, although could be that it was 
implied…



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



If the aging server is still up, add the new server DC promo move the 
appropriate roles, DC promo (demote) the old one.

Exchange is smart enough to now of the change.

Am I missing something?

___

Stefan Jafs



From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC 
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Replacing Win2k3 DC



Perhaps this might help in determining what is where:  
http://www.petri.co.il/determining_fsmo_role_holders.htm


Rick



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Replacing Win2k3 DC



I have 3 DC's in my Domain.  I am at the life's end of one of them.  I 
am building a server to replace it.

I need to know how to determine what roles this server has so I can be 
sure to get them on the new server.

What is the best practice to replace a DC and to migrate the roles???



 

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intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, 
distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this 
email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico 
Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure 
no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility 
for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.



 

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Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure 
no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility 
for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.




 


  -- 
  Sherry Abercrombie

  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
  Arthur C. Clarke
  Sent from Haslet, TX, United States 



 



 


  -- 
  Sherry Abercrombie

  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
  Arthur C. Clarke
  Sent from Haslet, TX, United States 



 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~