RE: BB Storm management

[gsweers]

It should be mentioned that BPS or Blackberry Professional does not
support html and is only on the Sp4 revision currently.  The Curves and
the Storms work fine, they just don't have the advanced functionality
like HTML and making modifications to advanced policies settings not
available in the Sp4 versions.

 

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

SP6 really brought the party.

The HTML email support alone is worth the 5 minutes you will spend
installing it.

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

SP5 included the 4.5+ policies. -
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/deliverables/4071/release_notes.pdf

 

"Functional changes

Note: BlackBerry Enterprise Server Version 4.1 SP5 makes certain new
features available on BlackBerry

devices that are running BlackBerry(r) Device Software Version 4.5.
BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.5,

which was previously known as BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.3.1,
is not yet available."

 

SP6 included enhancements including the new OCS client, HTML and rich
content emails messages, and just a few others.  Many bug fixes relating
to E2K7.

 

- John Barsodi

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

I think its 4.1 SP6 (most current version)

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers,
I want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1
SP5 for Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to
confirm.  

 

- John Barsodi

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm management

 

Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper
management over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?

 

-- 
Wayne Eisenberg 
Server and PC Support Manager
Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm management

[tmccarty]

Device OS 4.5 is supported in BES 4.1.5 (4.1 SP5)  Don't remember  
about the policy question.

I concur with Martin that 4.1.6 is worth the time and trouble.  I just  
pushed a new version of 4.5 OS across the wire to a Curve.

The HTML E-mail is worth the trouble to upgrade your Curve Device OS  
to 4.5.  I can read mail on my curve without my glasses... :)

Tom McCarty
MCSE Global Messaging Support
Marsh McLennan Companies

Quoting Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> SP6 really brought the party.
>
> The HTML email support alone is worth the 5 minutes you will spend
> installing it.
>
>
>
> From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: BB Storm management
>
>
>
> SP5 included the 4.5+ policies. -
> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/deliverables/4071/release_notes.pdf
>
>
>
> "Functional changes
>
> Note: BlackBerry Enterprise Server Version 4.1 SP5 makes certain new
> features available on BlackBerry
>
> devices that are running BlackBerryR Device Software Version 4.5. BlackBerry
> Device Software Version 4.5,
>
> which was previously known as BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.3.1, is
> not yet available."
>
>
>
> SP6 included enhancements including the new OCS client, HTML and rich
> content emails messages, and just a few others.  Many bug fixes relating to
> E2K7.
>
>
>
> - John Barsodi
>
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: BB Storm management
>
>
>
> I think its 4.1 SP6 (most current version)
>
>
>
> From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: BB Storm management
>
>
>
> While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers, I
> want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1 SP5 for
> Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to confirm.
>
>
>
> - John Barsodi
>
> From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: BB Storm management
>
>
>
> Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper management
> over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?
>
>
>
> --
> Wayne Eisenberg
> Server and PC Support Manager
> Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm management

[Martin Blackstone]

SP6 really brought the party.

The HTML email support alone is worth the 5 minutes you will spend
installing it.

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

SP5 included the 4.5+ policies. -
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/deliverables/4071/release_notes.pdf

 

"Functional changes

Note: BlackBerry Enterprise Server Version 4.1 SP5 makes certain new
features available on BlackBerry

devices that are running BlackBerryR Device Software Version 4.5. BlackBerry
Device Software Version 4.5,

which was previously known as BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.3.1, is
not yet available."

 

SP6 included enhancements including the new OCS client, HTML and rich
content emails messages, and just a few others.  Many bug fixes relating to
E2K7.

 

- John Barsodi

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

I think its 4.1 SP6 (most current version)

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers, I
want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1 SP5 for
Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to confirm.  

 

- John Barsodi

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm management

 

Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper management
over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?

 

-- 
Wayne Eisenberg 
Server and PC Support Manager
Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm management

[Barsodi.John]

SP5 included the 4.5+ policies. -
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/deliverables/4071/release_notes.pdf

 

"Functional changes

Note: BlackBerry Enterprise Server Version 4.1 SP5 makes certain new
features available on BlackBerry

devices that are running BlackBerry(r) Device Software Version 4.5.
BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.5,

which was previously known as BlackBerry Device Software Version 4.3.1,
is not yet available."

 

SP6 included enhancements including the new OCS client, HTML and rich
content emails messages, and just a few others.  Many bug fixes relating
to E2K7.

 

- John Barsodi

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

I think its 4.1 SP6 (most current version)

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers,
I want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1
SP5 for Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to
confirm.  

 

- John Barsodi

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm management

 

Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper
management over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?

 

-- 
Wayne Eisenberg 
Server and PC Support Manager
Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm management

[Martin Blackstone]

I think its 4.1 SP6 (most current version)

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm management

 

While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers, I
want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1 SP5 for
Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to confirm.  

 

- John Barsodi

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm management

 

Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper management
over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?

 

-- 
Wayne Eisenberg 
Server and PC Support Manager
Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm management

[Barsodi.John]

While I generally stay current on my BES patches on all my BES servers,
I want to say the IT Policies for the later OS's showed up in BES 4.1
SP5 for Exchange .  I would have to go back through the release notes to
confirm.  

 

- John Barsodi

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm management

 

Does anyone know what version of BES is required to have proper
management over the Curve (BB OS 4.5) and the Storm (BB OS 4.7)?

 

-- 
Wayne Eisenberg 
Server and PC Support Manager
Pepsi Bottling Ventures, LLC 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BB Storm

[Graeme Carstairs]

Mines is jailbroken,
PDANET is an awesome app.

Worth jailbreaking for that alone.

Graeme




On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Out of random Monday curiosity, how many of you have jailbroken your
> iphones?  I forget if this is a Cydia install but theres this program
> called
> "Say Who" that somehow, without training, will voice dial any of your
> contacts.
>
>
>
> Phillip Partipilo
> Parametric Solutions Inc.
> Jupiter, Florida
> (561) 747-6107
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: BB Storm
>
>
>
> I just updated mine yesterday.  It does work better but still not as
> polished as the Iphone.  Screen still takes sometimes a second to
> realize the orientation.   The media lags are very much reduced.
>
> I upgraded my software using the desktop and had zero problems being
> connected to a BES server, retained my settings, everything continues to
> sync properly.
>
> All in all I think I am pretty happy with it.  Searching for names is
> probably the more difficult function now as it requires 3 clicks to get to
> a
> name vs just typing a letter to begin the sorting process.  Voice dial has
> become a very used tool now.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: BB Storm
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone supporting these on BES?
>
>  I've had a couple inquiries; I've been advising users to hold off for a
> few months.  It's a new model, and the first-ever touch-screen for
> BlackBerry, and there was a big push to get it released.  I would be amazed
> if there weren't some bugs.
>
> > I have a couple of guys who got theirs and its been working (they both
> hate them btw)
> > and apparently there was some software upgrade they applied this
> morning and
> > blew out both their bes connections.
>
>  I went to a store to try one hands-on.  I found the UI was erratic and/or
> slow.  The salesweasel must have seen my reaction, because she proactively
> offered this explanation: Verizon does something to them which causes
> problems.  This "something" will be cleared out once the trial period ends
> (15 days, I think).  The device will then automatically reset and work much
> better.  She didn't have any knowledge as to the how or why behind it.
>
>  It doesn't make any sense to make a product *worse* to use during the
> period when the customer is going to return it.  On the other hand, I can
> totally see Verizon shooting themselves in the foot like that.  (Witness
> the
> 8830 GPS fiasco.)  So maybe your users just got their reset.  Ask them if
> the device works better now.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
>
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RE: BB Storm

[Phillip Partipilo]

Out of random Monday curiosity, how many of you have jailbroken your
iphones?  I forget if this is a Cydia install but theres this program called
"Say Who" that somehow, without training, will voice dial any of your
contacts. 


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm



I just updated mine yesterday.  It does work better but still not as
polished as the Iphone.  Screen still takes sometimes a second to
realize the orientation.   The media lags are very much reduced.

I upgraded my software using the desktop and had zero problems being
connected to a BES server, retained my settings, everything continues to
sync properly.

All in all I think I am pretty happy with it.  Searching for names is
probably the more difficult function now as it requires 3 clicks to get to a
name vs just typing a letter to begin the sorting process.  Voice dial has
become a very used tool now.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BB Storm

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone supporting these on BES?

  I've had a couple inquiries; I've been advising users to hold off for a
few months.  It's a new model, and the first-ever touch-screen for
BlackBerry, and there was a big push to get it released.  I would be amazed
if there weren't some bugs.

> I have a couple of guys who got theirs and its been working (they both
hate them btw)
> and apparently there was some software upgrade they applied this
morning and
> blew out both their bes connections.

  I went to a store to try one hands-on.  I found the UI was erratic and/or
slow.  The salesweasel must have seen my reaction, because she proactively
offered this explanation: Verizon does something to them which causes
problems.  This "something" will be cleared out once the trial period ends
(15 days, I think).  The device will then automatically reset and work much
better.  She didn't have any knowledge as to the how or why behind it.

  It doesn't make any sense to make a product *worse* to use during the
period when the customer is going to return it.  On the other hand, I can
totally see Verizon shooting themselves in the foot like that.  (Witness the
8830 GPS fiasco.)  So maybe your users just got their reset.  Ask them if
the device works better now.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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RE: BB Storm

[gsweers]

I just updated mine yesterday.  It does work better but still not as
polished as the Iphone.  Screen still takes sometimes a second to
realize the orientation.   The media lags are very much reduced.

I upgraded my software using the desktop and had zero problems being
connected to a BES server, retained my settings, everything continues to
sync properly.

All in all I think I am pretty happy with it.  Searching for names is
probably the more difficult function now as it requires 3 clicks to get
to a name vs just typing a letter to begin the sorting process.  Voice
dial has become a very used tool now.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: BB Storm

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone supporting these on BES?

  I've had a couple inquiries; I've been advising users to hold off
for a few months.  It's a new model, and the first-ever touch-screen
for BlackBerry, and there was a big push to get it released.  I would
be amazed if there weren't some bugs.

> I have a couple of guys who got theirs and its been working (they both
hate them btw)
> and apparently there was some software upgrade they applied this
morning and
> blew out both their bes connections.

  I went to a store to try one hands-on.  I found the UI was erratic
and/or slow.  The salesweasel must have seen my reaction, because she
proactively offered this explanation: Verizon does something to them
which causes problems.  This "something" will be cleared out once the
trial period ends (15 days, I think).  The device will then
automatically reset and work much better.  She didn't have any
knowledge as to the how or why behind it.

  It doesn't make any sense to make a product *worse* to use during
the period when the customer is going to return it.  On the other
hand, I can totally see Verizon shooting themselves in the foot like
that.  (Witness the 8830 GPS fiasco.)  So maybe your users just got
their reset.  Ask them if the device works better now.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: BB Storm

[Ben Scott]

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone supporting these on BES?

  I've had a couple inquiries; I've been advising users to hold off
for a few months.  It's a new model, and the first-ever touch-screen
for BlackBerry, and there was a big push to get it released.  I would
be amazed if there weren't some bugs.

> I have a couple of guys who got theirs and its been working (they both hate 
> them btw)
> and apparently there was some software upgrade they applied this morning and
> blew out both their bes connections.

  I went to a store to try one hands-on.  I found the UI was erratic
and/or slow.  The salesweasel must have seen my reaction, because she
proactively offered this explanation: Verizon does something to them
which causes problems.  This "something" will be cleared out once the
trial period ends (15 days, I think).  The device will then
automatically reset and work much better.  She didn't have any
knowledge as to the how or why behind it.

  It doesn't make any sense to make a product *worse* to use during
the period when the customer is going to return it.  On the other
hand, I can totally see Verizon shooting themselves in the foot like
that.  (Witness the 8830 GPS fiasco.)  So maybe your users just got
their reset.  Ask them if the device works better now.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: BB Storm

[Martin Blackstone]

Sucks to be them J

I've told everyone to make sure they test drive one before buying and
everyone I know who has done it wasn't pleased.

 

Now the Bold on the other hand is wonderful. Javelin is next and it looks
good as well. Probably a few bucks cheaper than Bold as well.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

That's the thing we did reactivate them and they don't sync up. I had them
reset the handheld, try to re-activate several times today and nothing. 

 

The etp message makes it to the email but the phone never picks it up. Ill
get support on the phone on Monday.

 

In regard to the heavy user, these guys are travelling the world most of the
time and can't go an hour without email (else I get the call!) so that's
likely why they don't like them.

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 15:45
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

Since there is no thumbwheel or ball, click whatever the heck you are
supposed to click to simulate balls or thumbwheels.

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the
BES server.

That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going through
the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No need to
reset or wipe the device.

 

You may also try:

1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning

2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel >
Register Now

 

On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you
are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm

 

Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and
its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some
software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes
connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go.
Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences. 

 

Running BES Express 4.1.4 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

That's the thing we did reactivate them and they don't sync up. I had them
reset the handheld, try to re-activate several times today and nothing. 

 

The etp message makes it to the email but the phone never picks it up. Ill
get support on the phone on Monday.

 

In regard to the heavy user, these guys are travelling the world most of the
time and can't go an hour without email (else I get the call!) so that's
likely why they don't like them.

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 15:45
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

Since there is no thumbwheel or ball, click whatever the heck you are
supposed to click to simulate balls or thumbwheels.

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the
BES server.

That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going through
the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No need to
reset or wipe the device.

 

You may also try:

1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning

2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel >
Register Now

 

On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you
are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm

 

Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and
its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some
software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes
connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go.
Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences. 

 

Running BES Express 4.1.4 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: BB Storm

[James Kerr]

My Pro is coming in next week I hope. Can't wait to play around with it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Ens 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: BB Storm


  While on the topic of new handhelds, I just got one my technician a HTC Touch 
Pro.  It has the most beautiful screen (full VGA) I've ever seen on a phone.  
He can run a full RDP session with the terminal server.  The Flow is nice 
too...No Storms here yet...I'm sure they will come though.


  On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the 
BES server.

That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going 
through the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No need 
to reset or wipe the device.



You may also try:

1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning

2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel > 
Register Now



On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you 
are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.



From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm



Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and 
its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some 
software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes 
connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go. 
Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences. 



Running BES Express 4.1.4 





 




 






 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: BB Storm

[Steve Ens]

While on the topic of new handhelds, I just got one my technician a HTC
Touch Pro.  It has the most beautiful screen (full VGA) I've ever seen on a
phone.  He can run a full RDP session with the terminal server.  The Flow is
nice too...No Storms here yet...I'm sure they will come though.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the
> BES server.
>
> That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going
> through the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No
> need to reset or wipe the device.
>
>
>
> You may also try:
>
> 1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning
>
> 2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel >
> Register Now
>
>
>
> On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you
> are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.
>
>
>
> *From:* Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* BB Storm
>
>
>
> Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and
> its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some
> software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes
> connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go.
> Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences.
>
>
>
> Running BES Express 4.1.4
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: BB Storm

[Martin Blackstone]

Since there is no thumbwheel or ball, click whatever the heck you are
supposed to click to simulate balls or thumbwheels.

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BB Storm

 

Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the
BES server.

That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going through
the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No need to
reset or wipe the device.

 

You may also try:

1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning

2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel >
Register Now

 

On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you
are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm

 

Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and
its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some
software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes
connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go.
Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences. 

 

Running BES Express 4.1.4 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: BB Storm

[Martin Blackstone]

Typically when you upgrade the OS you need to reactivate the phone to the
BES server.

That usually means just sending them a new activation code and going through
the steps (Options, Advanced Options, Enterprise Activation). No need to
reset or wipe the device.

 

You may also try:

1. Options > Network > Click Thumbwheel > Start Provisioning

2. Options > Advanced Options > Host Routing Table > Click Thumbwheel >
Register Now

 

On a side note, I have played with the Storm. Fantastic device UNLESS you
are a heavy email or text user. I just didn't enjoy the keyboard at all.

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BB Storm

 

Anyone supporting these on BES? I have a couple of guys who got theirs and
its been working (they both hate them btw) and apparently there was some
software upgrade they applied this morning and blew out both their bes
connections. I went through and reset the phone, reset activation and no go.
Just wondering if anyone else has similar experiences. 

 

Running BES Express 4.1.4 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~