RE: IT Departmental Meetings
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RE: IT Departmental Meetings
We're a small department, 7 fte, so we meet once a week. Usually lasts about an hour unless the director gets on something. He tends to enjoy listening to himself. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy; he's a great guitar player, btw. But, but, somedays I just want to scream out, SHUT UP! You've said the same thing 5 times already! sigh Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 _ From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Hi SherriL Do the leads meet togetheror separate? -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: 11/11/08 9:19 AM Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings In our IT dept., there are 5 areas with leads over each area. The leads meet weekly with the IT Manager, the leads will then update their teams with pertinent information. All the areas meet weekly usually. We have fun with our official name, I am on the Data Center Administration Team, abbreviated as DCAT, we call ourselves DeeCat, and the area where our cubes are located is dee litter box. We don't have a formal all IT staff meetings, but certainly have good intradept. communication with the structure that we currently have. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting im taking some notes thanks.. -- *From:* Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. *Andy Crellin * Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11 November 2008 13:30 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Unfortunately I see many companies which have dysfunctional inter and intradepartmental communication. For some meetings = donuts. Mike Original Message: - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:51:14 -0800 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings +1 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting. im taking some notes. thanks.. _ From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: IT Departmental Meetings
The leads have a regular scheduled meeting all together with the manager. If the manager has something special or specific with an area, he might meet with the individual lead, but that is an impromptu meeting that happens as needed. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi SherriL Do the leads meet togetheror separate? -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: 11/11/08 9:19 AM Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings In our IT dept., there are 5 areas with leads over each area. The leads meet weekly with the IT Manager, the leads will then update their teams with pertinent information. All the areas meet weekly usually. We have fun with our official name, I am on the Data Center Administration Team, abbreviated as DCAT, we call ourselves DeeCat, and the area where our cubes are located is dee litter box. We don't have a formal all IT staff meetings, but certainly have good intradept. communication with the structure that we currently have. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away – people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting… im taking some notes… thanks.. -- *From:* Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. *Andy Crellin * Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11 November 2008 13:30 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Supply Pizza. From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
I want to throw in my two cents and agree with the others who have mentioned the importance of meetings that include people from multiple functional areas. I know both from personal experience and what I've been studying in school that great things can happen when cross-functional communication occurs, and bad things can happen when it doesn't. That doesn't mean the meetings have to last an eternity, though, or that each team needs to know all of the minutiae of the other teams. But the DBAs need to know what the Network guys are doing, and the techs need to know what the system guys are doing-at least in a broad sense. There's something each of them could learn from the other, and their combined knowledge is greater than their separate knowledge. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: IT Departmental Meetings
We have a monthly (only 5 IT staff) where everyones projects are touched on and then we discuss problem areas. My boss gets the happiness of C-level meetings and aprises us of any developments, I get the monthly middle managers Interdepartmental meeting and we (IT) usually have ad hoc discussions when something comes up. We all work in the same hall (Testosterone Zone as we call it) so we're fairly cohesive in that respect. YMMV. ;-) hello to all at the Connections conference! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry From: Michael B. Smith To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tue Nov 11 09:03:54 2008 Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away – people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That’s a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting… im taking some notes… thanks.. From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they’ll be turned into projects and done. It’s mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don’t want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don’t want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don’t like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the “team�. Every week is way too often and doesn’t give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission
Re: IT Departmental Meetings
My group has a regular weekly meeting on Monday's for cross-training. We don't always meet, but it is on the calendar, the conference room and projector are reserved, so we are good to go whenever we have something to go over. We also have a weekly group meeting to go over any pertinent projects, new stuff, issues etc. that we do the same thing with, if we need to meet we do, if not we skip it. And like others have stated, we do a lot of ad-hoc meetings when necessary. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
We have a weekly team meeting with the Windows Server admins and our supervisor - scheduled for an hour, but often we either skip the meeting entirely or cut it short. We try to make sure we get any updates from management and know what each other is doing. Any problems, new processes, etc are brought up here. We also have a every other week on-call meeting where we go over all the pages from the last 2 weeks and transition the on-call phone. This is scheduled for 30 minutes - it usually takes 15 to go through the pages. -Brian ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: IT Departmental Meetings
In our IT dept., there are 5 areas with leads over each area. The leads meet weekly with the IT Manager, the leads will then update their teams with pertinent information. All the areas meet weekly usually. We have fun with our official name, I am on the Data Center Administration Team, abbreviated as DCAT, we call ourselves DeeCat, and the area where our cubes are located is dee litter box. We don't have a formal all IT staff meetings, but certainly have good intradept. communication with the structure that we currently have. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away – people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting… im taking some notes… thanks.. -- *From:* Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. *Andy Crellin * Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 11 November 2008 13:30 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Don't tell me you're making changes on a Friday afternoon?? How about changes on Christmas eve? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Typical meeting. Boss.. Why does this not work? Server Admins. It is a coding problem with the application. Software Developers. It is a server problem. From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings We get to sit in on our change control meeting once a day, which is usually as interesting as watching paint dry, and invariably ends up with our own changes being rejected. However I find our weekly infrastructure meeting much more interesting, as I get to fight with other departments who try to blame us for their failings :-) 2008/11/11 Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Run into the same thing here. Sounds dysfunctional, and it usually is. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + _ From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
+2 From The Sunny Side Of The Street ! Cliff P. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 06:51 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings +1 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting. im taking some notes. thanks.. _ From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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The committee I am on, three people, me, myself, and I voted to kill the meetings as a waste of time. I update my boss by email as to issues and my schedule but otherwise meetings are a waste of time and energy. Jon On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:43 AM, James Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We get to sit in on our change control meeting once a day, which is usually as interesting as watching paint dry, and invariably ends up with our own changes being rejected. However I find our weekly infrastructure meeting much more interesting, as I get to fight with other departments who try to blame us for their failings :-) 2008/11/11 Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Run into the same thing here. Sounds dysfunctional, and it usually is. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -- *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). To borrow from another maxim: Going to meetings doesn't mean you're communicating, any more than going to a garage makes you a car.[1] Don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree that communication is the single biggest problem.[2] Alas, the problem runs much deeper than simply getting people together in the same room. [1] The original I saw was, Going to church doesn't make you religious [2] The lack of qualification is deliberate. As in, not just IT. Not just business. Everywhere. All of humanity. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Run into the same thing here. Sounds dysfunctional, and it usually is. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: IT Departmental Meetings
We get to sit in on our change control meeting once a day, which is usually as interesting as watching paint dry, and invariably ends up with our own changes being rejected. However I find our weekly infrastructure meeting much more interesting, as I get to fight with other departments who try to blame us for their failings :-) 2008/11/11 Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Run into the same thing here. Sounds dysfunctional, and it usually is. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -- *From:* Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:32 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: IT Departmental Meetings Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! *From:* Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Out department is like that, too. The IT director and clinical analyst are members of the I/S Steering committee which discusses and plans how IT fits into other dept.'s projects. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Oh yes. Our business systems team has regular meetings with lots of folks. It's one of the reasons I like our IT Director so much. I am on tap regularly to support/educate our engineering development staff, too, and I try to maintain good communications with the managers in the company as well. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Same here we have a MD on staff to translate DR speak to IT speak and vice versa... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Out department is like that, too. The IT director and clinical analyst are members of the I/S Steering committee which discusses and plans how IT fits into other dept.'s projects. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Oh yes. Our business systems team has regular meetings with lots of folks. It's one of the reasons I like our IT Director so much. I am on tap regularly to support/educate our engineering development staff, too, and I try to maintain good communications with the managers in the company as well. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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+1 We tried them for a while, thinking they'd be more laid back and enjoyable. I don't think any of us retained much from them. And if it were me, you wouldn't give me anything to think about over the weekend. You'd actually be giving me 2 days to forget what you tried showing me. I'd much rather see something on Tuesday, and start working with it on Wednesday. On Nov 11, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Chinnery, Paul wrote: Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I should've worded that better. I meant more in the line of studies, etc. not consultants per se. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Same here, but if you are meeting just to meet, as we that do a lot of meetings know all too well, then meeting to discuss something that will be brought up again and nadda done about it, is by itself fruitless.. And MGMT consultants? They are over-priced people that tell you what you want to hear, that you should have been able to figure out for yourself. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
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We do ours on Monday so we can start out behind ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Painfully sent to you from my Blackberry - Original Message - From: Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tue Nov 11 15:18:44 2008 Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal
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Hey Z, Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. :P TVK -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Same here we have a MD on staff to translate DR speak to IT speak and vice versa... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Out department is like that, too. The IT director and clinical analyst are members of the I/S Steering committee which discusses and plans how IT fits into other dept.'s projects. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Oh yes. Our business systems team has regular meetings with lots of folks. It's one of the reasons I like our IT Director so much. I am on tap regularly to support/educate our engineering development staff, too, and I try to maintain good communications with the managers in the company as well. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I can, but I wouldn't want to offend those from Boston and all parts North, because its there given right to butcher the English Language... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Hey Z, Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. :P TVK -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Same here we have a MD on staff to translate DR speak to IT speak and vice versa... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Out department is like that, too. The IT director and clinical analyst are members of the I/S Steering committee which discusses and plans how IT fits into other dept.'s projects. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Oh yes. Our business systems team has regular meetings with lots of folks. It's one of the reasons I like our IT Director so much. I am on tap regularly to support/educate our engineering development staff, too, and I try to maintain good communications with the managers in the company as well. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. No, no, it's not that the R's are missing. We in New England have to send them to Texas so they can warsh their cars. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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That is downright neighbahly of y'all. TVK -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. No, no, it's not that the R's are missing. We in New England have to send them to Texas so they can warsh their cars. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Oh yes. Our business systems team has regular meetings with lots of folks. It's one of the reasons I like our IT Director so much. I am on tap regularly to support/educate our engineering development staff, too, and I try to maintain good communications with the managers in the company as well. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away – people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I'd rather have them cap the week with some instruction or a demo. They might or might not ponder it over the weekend - I hope they do - but it's certainly *not* assigned homework. And, I'd rather they fit the work on the demo or instruction into their weekly work, rather than do it over the weekend before a Monday presentation. The Friday meeting is also used to plan time off, projects for the next week, etc. The meetings are prospective, on retrospective, and as such, I find it more useful to hold them on Friday, rather than trying to do them on Mondays, which are always busy. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Same here, but if you are meeting just to meet, as we that do a lot of meetings know all too well, then meeting to discuss something that will be brought up again and nadda done about it, is by itself fruitless.. And MGMT consultants? They are over-priced people that tell you what you want to hear, that you should have been able to figure out for yourself. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Forgot... I think I should point out - the instruction and demos are really meant more to benefit the presenter than the audience. I intend to assign these based on what I think the presenter needs to know, rather than what the audience needs to hear. It's my firm belief that if you can't teach a subject, you don't know it. So, if the presenter does a good job, they've understood the material. This doesn't preclude me from assigning the same or similar presentation in the next 6 months or a year to someone else, if I think someone else needs to learn it. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't you rather have them thinking about their families on the weekend? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a slacker (as my performance reviews would show or as the IT director said during a staff meeting once , I wish I could clone you.). For us here, we work pretty hard during the week working on projects, putting out fires, etc. like the posters on this list. For me, Fridays are a chance to catch up on paperwork, talk to vendors and do research. I think you'll find that most mgmt. consultants recommend against Friday meetings. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings Yup. Gives them something to think about over the weekend. Actually, it's a great way to cap the week. The tone is very light in our group, and there's always lots of joking, so this will keep them a bit focused. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chinnery, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Warshing starts in western PA. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. No, no, it's not that the R's are missing. We in New England have to send them to Texas so they can warsh their cars. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We meet once a month, that said, if there is critical information that needs to be shared this is done on an ad hoc basis. Clayton Doige IT Project Manager CME Development Corporation T: 020 7430 5355 M: 07949 255062 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.cetv-net.com From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this message or its contents may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by electronic mail and delete the original message and any attachments without retaining any copies. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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LOL I am originally from Western PA ( Pittsburgh Area) why I know warshin... And Youn's don't know the half of it :) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Warshing starts in western PA. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. No, no, it's not that the R's are missing. We in New England have to send them to Texas so they can warsh their cars. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Instructions and demos on a Friday afternoon? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings IT folks are notorious for not liking meetings. Our department is nine members - we've split the staff into the business systems team and the infrastructure team. We have a Wednesday departmental meeting, which the IT Director has managed to pare down to approximately 1/2 hour. That meeting covers news of the business as a whole, plus anything that is going on in the department that might impact others. No set agenda. I have also instituted, as the newly christened Supervisor for the IF team (promoted in October, yea for me), a regular Friday afternoon meeting (13:00) for me and my three charges. It is slated to last a full hour, but is often over before that. However, I plan on introducing instruction and demos at this meeting - I'll be requiring each member to come up with a topic, in rotation. I figure it'll be good for them, and I might learn something too. Kurt On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Sorry but its Caah Waaash Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 401-639-3505 MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have anyone there to translate the New Englandese to common English? Basically insert the R's where appropriate. No, no, it's not that the R's are missing. We in New England have to send them to Texas so they can warsh their cars. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I think I remember having one of those once... On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Every two weeks I take our team (it's only 4-5 of them) out for lunch and we touch on every active client followed by any announcements from sales or operations. It lasts about an hour generally, but they were going to take lunch anyhow and the meetings are usually pretty valuable for making sure everybody's on the same page. Also it keeps them on their toes and working on things because they don't want to have to go to the meeting and say Uh, yeah, I haven't done anything on that yet. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Supply Pizza... From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Haha here here! From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Interesting... im taking some notes... thanks.. From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Hahaha nice... I love when the other sections pass blame..then its WW III! Been there! From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IT Departmental Meetings ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
Meetings???, We don't need no stinkin' meetings! From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information transmitted in this message is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this document. Thank you. Butler Animal Health Supply ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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My take on meetings. At least let me know what the meeting it going to cover so I can come in prepared. Email me an agenda a day in advance. There could be topics I may need to do research on. Just because I can recover your hard drive because you decided to install a bunch of free games off the internet does not mean I know everything. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We have an IT staff of about 6, plus our manager, and there is someone from another department that joins our meetings as well. So the meetings we have are fairly small. We meet once a week, our manager updates on stuff that involves everyone. And then he goes around the table and asks each person if they have anything. Sometimes it's just that is important to everyone, other times it only involves a couple of people at the table. We used to have two meetings. One meeting was group related with the manager. For example, the networking team would meet with him on Monday's, and then the user support team would meet with him on Tuesdays. But the User Support guys complained that they didn't get to hear about what we were doing enough, so we ended up combining the meetings. Personally I liked meeting in separate groups and then bringing only the information to the table that effected the other groups during our departmental staff meeting. I spend less time listening to people talk about stuff that doesn't effect me, or asking questions that have already been answered 5 times. But, such is life On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Chyka, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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In a past life, I used to hold weekly meetings with my team. I was the Director of IT, and had 6 employees that did everything. It was a total PITA meeting weekly. As has been pointed out, not all that was discussed pertained to everyone. People got bored, the meetings derailed, etc. We stopped having meetings. Then everyone complained that they didn't know what was happening, myself included. We then started having them again biweekly, and had a focused agenda. This worked much better. As much as people hate meetings, they are a necessary evil. Someone needs to keep the event on track, to. On Nov 11, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote: I gotta tell you guys – I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away – people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That’s a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting… im taking some notes… thanks.. From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they’ll be turned into projects and done. It’s mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don’t want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don’t want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don’t like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the “team”. Every week is way too often and doesn’t give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: IT Departmental Meetings
I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting. im taking some notes. thanks.. _ From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We have bi-weekly staff meetings here for our department where we discuss what we are doing and our boss fills us in on any other details we need to know about. Once a month, we have an all-IT meeting with our CIO where he talks about the business and each of the managers provides some updates. We also have change control twice a week, plus there is an architect meeting for the architects, and an infrastructure readiness to discuss and approves changes to our infrastructure. Several of these meetings are cross-departmental and allow for collaboration. In addition, we have a weekly email that is sent out with each team's updates. All of these things server to break things up a bit. We stay in the loop with any new projects that may affect us by rotating which member of our team will be involved in the project, preferably from the design phase. Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the message and any file attachments from your computer. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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+1 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings I gotta tell you guys - I go into lots of companies where one of their major issues is a lack of interdepartmental communications (and in some case, intradepartmental communications). I often encourage them to have healthy meetings. Once the meetings go away - people claim to know NOTHING about whatever else is going on, leading to information silos. That's a bad thing. Just IMHO. YMMV. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings Interesting. im taking some notes. thanks.. _ From: Andy Crellin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IT Departmental Meetings We have just changed the way we do things because of exactly this same problem. We normally have full team meetings every 2 or 3 months (20 odd people) and do something interesting like an away day somewhere or get a departmental director/head/etc to come in a talk about what the business is doing in different areas. We then have 2 or 3 groups working for an hour or two on ideas to help that particular department make better use of IT. If the ideas we come up with are worth running with then they'll be turned into projects and done. It's mainly a social gathering though as large meetings like that are pretty much ineffective. I also meet with my opposite numbers (3 other areas of IT) and boss (Head of MIS) every month/6 weeks and we discuss general strategic stuff, major issues, problems etc etc. These meetings are generally very useful as information filters down from our boss to us and from us to our staff (and, of course, upwards as well). The 4 of us then meet with our teams once a week where possible to manage the tactical side of things. HTH. Andy Crellin Technical Services Manager Leonard Cheshire Disability Telephone: 01904 479200 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2008 13:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IT Departmental Meetings Hi Everyone, Right now we have the most boring meetings for our IT Dept. We have weekly meetings with 15 members of our staff in them from the CIO to lower level techs and everyone in between. We fill out an agenda with what we are working on etc. The meeting lasts forever and the DBAs don't want to hear what the Network guys are doing and the techs don't want to hear what the systems guys are doing etc. etc. just awful meetings and nothing gets accomplished. We were told since we don't like the meetings and they are highly ineffective to come up with a better way to hold them. I was thinking about every 2 weeks have the CIO meet with the management in each division together so we still know what is going on with the team. Every week is way too often and doesn't give enough time to report on completed projects etc. I was wondering how dept. meetings are held at your places of employment for the IT dept. Thanks..BC Internet communications are not secure and therefore Leonard Cheshire Disability does not accept any liability for the content of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Leonard Cheshire Disability. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact the sender and delete it immediately. Leonard Cheshire Disability is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England no: 552847, and a registered charity no: 218186 (England Wales) and no: SC005117 (Scotland) VAT no: 899 3223 75. Registered office: 66 South Lambeth Road, London, SW8 1RL. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
