Re: Wireless Routers

[Len Hammond]

Been getting mine at Tiger

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland, LLC
l...@csihartland.com


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Carl Houseman wrote:

>  Newegg.com has a bunch of recertified routers listed right now, including
> several Linksys.
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> Carl
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> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:16 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers
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> What’s a good source for refurbed routers?
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> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
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> *From:* Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers
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> +1 on the Netgear refurbs.  I have installed about a dozen of them over the
> last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location.
> Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go
> figure.
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>
> I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link,
> Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in
> any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of
> manufacture - hung over employees, etc.  Recently, I've been getting the
> refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about
> warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a
> year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do
> something else.
>
>
> Len Hammond
> CSI:Hartland
> lenhamm...@gmail.com
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman 
> wrote:
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> Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J
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> Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
> happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
> the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.
>
>
>
> Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed
> by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.
>
>
>
> Carl
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> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
>  It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
> replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
> I'm more familiar with it.
>
>
>
> But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
> doesn't allow you to connect.
>
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Carl Houseman]

Newegg.com has a bunch of recertified routers listed right now, including
several Linksys.

 

Carl

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

What's a good source for refurbed routers?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

+1 on the Netgear refurbs.  I have installed about a dozen of them over the
last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location.
Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go
figure.

 

I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo
and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in any
flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of
manufacture - hung over employees, etc.  Recently, I've been getting the
refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about
warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a
year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do
something else. 


Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J

 

Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.

 

Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by
firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.  It
seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced.
I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more
familiar with it.

 

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

What's a good source for refurbed routers?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

+1 on the Netgear refurbs.  I have installed about a dozen of them over the
last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location.
Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go
figure.

 

I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link,
Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in
any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of
manufacture - hung over employees, etc.  Recently, I've been getting the
refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about
warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a
year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do
something else. 


Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman 
wrote:

Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J

 

Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.

 

Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed
by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
I'm more familiar with it.

 

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Len Hammond]

+1 on the Netgear refurbs.  I have installed about a dozen of them over the
last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location.
Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go
figure.

I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link,
Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in
any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of
manufacture - hung over employees, etc.  Recently, I've been getting the
refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about
warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a
year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do
something else.

Len Hammond
CSI:Hartland
lenhamm...@gmail.com


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman wrote:

>  Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J
>
>
>
> Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
> happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
> the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.
>
>
>
> Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed
> by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
>  It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
> replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
> I'm more familiar with it.
>
>
>
> But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
> doesn't allow you to connect.
>
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>  On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[RM]

My Blackberry WiFi is flaky when used with my Netgear and it
won't work at all with my old D-Link.  One more data point.

No, I haven't tried it with a Linksys.

RM



On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:31 -0400, "John Aldrich"
 wrote:

I’m pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell
laptop has a Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.)
The Desktop machine had an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card
installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it connected right up and
even got an IP address. Not to mention that the client said his
Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that morning
wirelessly.


I’ve had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that’s
part of the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers
in the future. Wired, sure. Wireless, no.


John-Aldrich Tile-Tools

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Ken Hoegeman]

Thanks,  I looked at that article, but the DHCP server is Win2003
Ken

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
wrote:

> On 10 May 2010 at 21:25, Ken Hoegeman  wrote:
>
> >
> > FYI - I have 4 year old laptop with Windows 7 & Nod 4 security suite.
> > At some of my clients I can connect to their secure WAP (not Netgear),
> > but don't get an IP thru DHCP. Connecting with ethernet cable is never a
> > problem.
> > I just disable the firewall get the IP address and then turn the
> > firewall back on.
>
> Might be related to this:
>Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from
>certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233
>
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Well, the desktop and laptop I was referring to are Windows XP machines, so
unless the "bug" or whatever affects XP machines as well... :-)




-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

On 10 May 2010 at 21:25, Ken Hoegeman  wrote:

> 
> FYI - I have 4 year old laptop with Windows 7 & Nod 4 security suite. 
> At some of my clients I can connect to their secure WAP (not Netgear), 
> but don't get an IP thru DHCP. Connecting with ethernet cable is never a 
> problem.
> I just disable the firewall get the IP address and then turn the 
> firewall back on.

Might be related to this:
Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from 
certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Windows firewall was not enabled on my laptop or the client's desktop. 

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Ken Hoegeman [mailto:ken.hoege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

FYI - I have 4 year old laptop with Windows 7 & Nod 4 security suite.  At
some of my clients I can connect to their secure WAP (not Netgear), but
don't get an IP thru DHCP. Connecting with ethernet cable is never a
problem.

I just disable the firewall get the IP address and then turn the firewall
back on.

 

Ken

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 10 May 2010 at 21:25, Ken Hoegeman  wrote:

> 
> FYI - I have 4 year old laptop with Windows 7 & Nod 4 security suite. 
> At some of my clients I can connect to their secure WAP (not Netgear), 
> but don't get an IP thru DHCP. Connecting with ethernet cable is never a 
> problem.
> I just disable the firewall get the IP address and then turn the 
> firewall back on.

Might be related to this:
Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from 
certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Ken Hoegeman]

FYI - I have 4 year old laptop with Windows 7 & Nod 4 security suite.  At
some of my clients I can connect to their secure WAP (not Netgear), but
don't get an IP thru DHCP. Connecting with ethernet cable is never a
problem.
I just disable the firewall get the IP address and then turn the firewall
back on.

Ken

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Steven M. Caesare]

+1.

 

That's why I said early on to make sure it could run DD-WRT and the
like.

 

It puts the vendor firmware to shame.

 

Besides, SSH'ing in to my WAP to twiddle the MRTG graphs is cool.

 

-sc

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but with OpenWRT on a 54, small offices and
employee homes where I don't have literally 10k to spend, the things I
do with that firmware are crazy.

Iptables and OpenVPN + bash permit some pretty trick setups and the
uptime/reliability has been humorously perfect.

 

At one location, I bridged a port with the wan so the "kid" at their
home could still use his own stuff and I had my own lan to permit the
business needs end...

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I recall buying a Netgear router for a my home a few years back and
returning it to the store the same day and buying a Belkin. Don't
remember what the deal was with the netgear but I know I said I would
never buy another netgear wireless router. It was pretty though. Right
now I have a Linksys WRT54G2 (I think that's the model) and its solid.

 

James

- Original Message - 

From: John Aldrich <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>  

To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:05 AM

Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Well, all I can do is tell you guys what *my* personal
experience has been... YMMV and quite possibly does. J

 

  

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]

Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 


I would like to confess, however, that our Netgear WAP failed to
provide a connection to one of our Mac users.  I have reset it via the
web GUI.  If he still can't connect, I'll do a hard reset (pull the
power cord).  If he still can't connect, well, thanks John for the
"heads up" on Netgear.  (It had been doing fine for a couple of years.)
-- 
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote on 05/10/2010 09:38:04 AM:

> 
> Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they
have no
> business leaving before confirming that the end user connects
and 
> gets IP settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this
stuff 
> for free, either.) 
> 
> Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, 
> broadcasting SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable
to go
> with a more secure set of security measures offered by the
device. 
> 
> Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported
by the
> users NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect"
but 
> get no IP settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure! 
> 
> BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean
to the
> coast of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be
involved.
> -- 
> Richard D. McClary 
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
> ASPCA(r) 
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
> Urbana, IL  61802 
>   
> richardmccl...@aspca.org 
>   
> P: 217-337-9761 
> C: 217-417-1182 
> F: 217-337-9761 
> www.aspca.org 
>   
>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Joseph L. Casale]

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but with OpenWRT on a 54, small offices and employee 
homes where I don't have literally 10k to spend, the things I do with that 
firmware are crazy.
Iptables and OpenVPN + bash permit some pretty trick setups and the 
uptime/reliability has been humorously perfect.

At one location, I bridged a port with the wan so the "kid" at their home could 
still use his own stuff and I had my own lan to permit the business needs end...

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

I recall buying a Netgear router for a my home a few years back and returning 
it to the store the same day and buying a Belkin. Don't remember what the deal 
was with the netgear but I know I said I would never buy another netgear 
wireless router. It was pretty though. Right now I have a Linksys WRT54G2 (I 
think that's the model) and its solid.

James
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

Well, all I can do is tell you guys what *my* personal experience has been... 
YMMV and quite possibly does. :)

[John-Aldrich][Tile-Tools]

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org<mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org> 
[mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers


I would like to confess, however, that our Netgear WAP failed to provide a 
connection to one of our Mac users.  I have reset it via the web GUI.  If he 
still can't connect, I'll do a hard reset (pull the power cord).  If he still 
can't connect, well, thanks John for the "heads up" on Netgear.  (It had been 
doing fine for a couple of years.)
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

P: 217-337-9761
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richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote on 05/10/2010 09:38:04 AM:

>
> Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no
> business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and
> gets IP settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff
> for free, either.)
>
> Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open,
> broadcasting SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go
> with a more secure set of security measures offered by the device.
>
> Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the
> users NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but
> get no IP settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure!
>
> BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the
> coast of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> ASPCA(r)
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> www.aspca.org
>
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>
> "John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:28:17 AM:
>
> > Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork
> > from Geeksquad from

Re: Wireless Routers

[James Kerr]

I recall buying a Netgear router for a my home a few years back and returning 
it to the store the same day and buying a Belkin. Don't remember what the deal 
was with the netgear but I know I said I would never buy another netgear 
wireless router. It was pretty though. Right now I have a Linksys WRT54G2 (I 
think that's the model) and its solid.

James
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Aldrich 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:05 AM
  Subject: RE: Wireless Routers


  Well, all I can do is tell you guys what *my* personal experience has been. 
YMMV and quite possibly does. J

   



   

  From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:43 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

   


  I would like to confess, however, that our Netgear WAP failed to provide a 
connection to one of our Mac users.  I have reset it via the web GUI.  If he 
still can't connect, I'll do a hard reset (pull the power cord).  If he still 
can't connect, well, thanks John for the "heads up" on Netgear.  (It had been 
doing fine for a couple of years.)
  -- 
  Richard D. McClary 
  Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  ASPCA® 
  1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
  Urbana, IL  61802 

  richardmccl...@aspca.org 

  P: 217-337-9761 
  C: 217-417-1182 
  F: 217-337-9761 
  www.aspca.org 


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  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote on 05/10/2010 09:38:04 AM:

  > 
  > Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no
  > business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and 
  > gets IP settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff 
  > for free, either.) 
  > 
  > Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, 
  > broadcasting SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go
  > with a more secure set of security measures offered by the device. 
  > 
  > Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the
  > users NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but 
  > get no IP settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure! 
  > 
  > BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the
  > coast of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
  > -- 
  > Richard D. McClary 
  > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  > ASPCA® 
  > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
  > Urbana, IL  61802 
  >   
  > richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  >   
  > P: 217-337-9761 
  > C: 217-417-1182 
  > F: 217-337-9761 
  > www.aspca.org 
  >   
  > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments 
  > hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to 
Animals®
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  >   
  > 
  > "John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:28:17 
AM:
  > 
  > > Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork 
  > > from Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included 
  > > the wireless password. It would "connect" but it would never get an 
  > > IP address. 
  > >   
  > > [image removed] [image removed] 
  > >   
  > > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
  > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
  > > To: NT System Admin Issues
  > > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
  > >   
  > > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
  > > factory specs? 
  > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 a

RE: Wireless Routers

[Kim Longenbaugh]

What hasn't been answered is what exactly does "airspeed velocity" mean,
since speed and velocity are actually two different things.

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

This has been answered J

 

http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/

 

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Another silly question;

 

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 

 

Shook

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
factory specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Mike Gill]

This has been answered J

 

http://www.style.org/unladenswallow/

 

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Another silly question;

 

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 

 

Shook

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Yeah. in this case I'd been messing with it for a couple hours, trying to
get everything to connect and when he said he'd had problems connecting to
the internet wirelessly on his laptop that morning, that was the final
straw. In the future, I'm not going to take as much time to reach that
decision. If I have any problems connecting to it, I'll recommend a new
router. 

The customer told me that the Netgear had cost over $100 brand new. 'Course
part of that was probably Geek Squad setting it up. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J

 

Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.

 

Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed
by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
I'm more familiar with it.

 

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Carl Houseman]

Buy factory refurbs.  They've already been fixed.. J

 

Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be
happier.  This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but
the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS.

 

Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by
firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash.

 

Carl

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.  It
seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced.
I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more
familiar with it.

 

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___




On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Yeah. I agree with you there. not to mention that they are coming out with
more powerful routers, with newer technology every 18-24 months, so it's
almost like it's "planned obsolescence" anyway. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
I'm more familiar with it.

 

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.



Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___




On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Murray Freeman  wrote:
> As to the channel in use, 1,6 & 11 are the recommended channels for all wifi 
> ..

  That's because they are the only three channels which allow for
three channels with no overlap.

  Table here:

http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/2point4freq.cfm

> I've been using 9 since that one ie rarely ever being switched to
> or being used at all.

  9 overlaps with 6 and 11.  That spectrum is being used, even if the
channel numbers are not being chosen.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Roger Wright]

I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers.
 It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be
replaced.  I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because
I'm more familiar with it.

But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset
doesn't allow you to connect.


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Erik Goldoff]

PPPoPidgeon


Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '



-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

IP over avian carrier?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:22, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
> 802.11sw
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> --
> richard, from an autonomous collective
>
>
> Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
>
>> Another silly question;
>>
>> Whats the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>>
>> Shook
>>
>> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
>>
>> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
>> factory specs?
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
>> > > wrote:
>> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a clients site (side
>> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
>> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
>> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
>> fussing with it for over 2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
>> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
>> hooked it up. Instant success.
>> Long story short  if I ever have a job where I cant get the
>> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, Im
>> not even going to spend time on it, Ill just tell the client Im
>> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
>> Linksys.
>> Just thought Id pass this along for anyone whos looking for a new
>> wireless router. J
>>
>> [image removed] [image removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Yeah, well. you know the old saying: "If mama ain't happy, ain't NOBODY
happy!" J I learned a long time ago to try and keep peace in the household. 

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Time to update firmware on the wife.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

WRT54GS2 is supported by DD-WRT. However, I knew my wife would be upset (she
was) about how long it was taking, so I just left the factory firmware on
there and set it up as secure as I could.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Whatever you buy, make sure it will run DD-WRT (or Tomato).

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Steven M. Caesare]

Time to update firmware on the wife.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

WRT54GS2 is supported by DD-WRT. However, I knew my wife would be upset
(she was) about how long it was taking, so I just left the factory
firmware on there and set it up as secure as I could.

 

  

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Whatever you buy, make sure it will run DD-WRT (or Tomato).

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. :-)

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Jonathan Link]

Déjà vu!

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> IP over avian carrier?
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:22, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
> > 802.11sw
> >
> >
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
> >
> >
> >
> > Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> > --
> > richard, from an autonomous collective
> >
> >
> > Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
> >
> >> Another silly question;
> >>
> >> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
> >>
> >> Shook
> >>
> >> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> >>
> >> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> >> factory specs?
> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side
> >> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> >> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
> >> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
> >> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> >> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> >> hooked it up. Instant success.
> >> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the
> >> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m
> >> not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m
> >> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
> >> Linksys.
> >> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> >> wireless router. J
> >>
> >> [image removed] [image removed]
>  >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

WRT54GS2 is supported by DD-WRT. However, I knew my wife would be upset (she
was) about how long it was taking, so I just left the factory firmware on
there and set it up as secure as I could.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Whatever you buy, make sure it will run DD-WRT (or Tomato).

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Steven M. Caesare]

Wireless IP over CP.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> 
> IP over avian carrier?
> 
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:22, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
> > 802.11sw
> >
> >
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
> >
> >
> >
> > Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> > --
> > richard, from an autonomous collective
> >
> >
> > Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05
> AM:
> >
> >> Another silly question;
> >>
> >> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
> >>
> >> Shook
> >>
> >> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> >>
> >> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> >> factory specs?
> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side
> >> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> >> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to
> >> get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing
> >> with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> >> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> >> hooked it up. Instant success.
> >> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the
> >> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m
> >> not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m
> >> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
> >> Linksys.
> >> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> >> wireless router. J
> >>
> >> [image removed] [image removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Kurt Buff]

IP over avian carrier?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:22, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
> 802.11sw
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> --
> richard, from an autonomous collective
>
>
> Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
>
>> Another silly question;
>>
>> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>>
>> Shook
>>
>> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
>>
>> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
>> factory specs?
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
>> > > wrote:
>> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side
>> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
>> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
>> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
>> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
>> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
>> hooked it up. Instant success.
>> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the
>> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m
>> not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m
>> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
>> Linksys.
>> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
>> wireless router. J
>>
>> [image removed] [image removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[Sean Rector]

I've used many Netgear wireless routers with no problems.  Of course,
YMMV.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 

  

 

 

 

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RE: Wireless Routers

[Steven M. Caesare]

Whatever you buy, make sure it will run DD-WRT (or Tomato).

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. :-)

 

  

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Steven M. Caesare]

802.11sw

 

-sc

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 


Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow? 
-- 
richard, from an autonomous collective 


Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:

> Another silly question; 
>   
> What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 
>   
> Shook 
>   
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
>   
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> factory specs? 
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com%0b> > > wrote: 
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> hooked it up. Instant success. 
> Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the 
> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm
> not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm 
> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
Linksys. 
> Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new 
> wireless router. J 
>   
> [image removed] [image removed] 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Kurt Buff]

So, I'm really late on this...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:36, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:
>
> An African or European Swallow?
>
>
>
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Another silly question;
>
>
>
> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory 
> specs?
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  
> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job) 
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router 
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to 
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I 
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I 
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to 
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to 
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different 
> router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless 
> router. J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Wireless Routers

[Kurt Buff]

African or European?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:26, Andy Shook  wrote:
>
> Another silly question;
>
>
>
> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory 
> specs?
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  
> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job) 
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router 
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to 
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I 
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I 
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to 
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to 
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different 
> router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless 
> router. J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Wireless Routers

[Murray Freeman]

As to the channel in use, 1,6 & 11 are the recommended channels for all
wifi, but I've used all of them at one time or another. It seems that
some of the newer wif's search for a quiet channel if there are a lot of
units nearby. I have a dozen neighbors in my area that have wifi and
several are always changing channels. I've been using 9 since that one
ie rarely ever being switched to or being used at all. BTW, I'm using
"Inssider" software to monitor my area. I've never noticed any
difference among the channels, but I just prefer to be alone on a
channel.
 

Murray

 



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers



Actually this reminded me, I did have a client a year or so ago with a
similar problem, and changing the channel the Netgear used solved the
connection issue for him.  I can't remember if we changed from channel
11 to 8, or 8 to 11 , but you get the idea.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend's home
network.  She had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old
that included a router and additional access point.  Nothing I did would
get the Netgear to keep a consistent connection; including pushing the
reset button(s).  Changed to Linksys and everything came up fine. 

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I'm pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine
had an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys
in, it connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention
that the client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the
internet that morning wirelessly.

 

I've had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that's part
of the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the
future. Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

  

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Nahh. that's all good. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Understood, but had to make sure it wasn't an incompatibility between
802.11A router and G clients or vice versa ..

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I'm pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
morning wirelessly.

 

I've had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that's part of
the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Well, all I can do is tell you guys what *my* personal experience has been.
YMMV and quite possibly does. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 


I would like to confess, however, that our Netgear WAP failed to provide a
connection to one of our Mac users.  I have reset it via the web GUI.  If he
still can't connect, I'll do a hard reset (pull the power cord).  If he
still can't connect, well, thanks John for the "heads up" on Netgear.  (It
had been doing fine for a couple of years.)
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
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richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote on 05/10/2010 09:38:04 AM:

> 
> Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no
> business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and 
> gets IP settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff 
> for free, either.) 
> 
> Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, 
> broadcasting SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go
> with a more secure set of security measures offered by the device. 
> 
> Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the
> users NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but 
> get no IP settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure! 
> 
> BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the
> coast of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
> -- 
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> ASPCAR 
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> "John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:28:17
AM:
> 
> > Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork 
> > from Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included 
> > the wireless password. It would "connect" but it would never get an 
> > IP address. 
> >   
> > [image removed] [image removed] 
> >   
> > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
> >   
> > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> > factory specs? 
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 > > wrote: 
> > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> > hooked it up. Instant success. 
> > Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can&#x

RE: Wireless Routers

[Erik Goldoff]

Don’t have time to name that movie, on the way to the hospital to have a
Spinal Tap 

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Sweet…they go to 11 (name that movie J )

 

I’m on a roll today, baby. 

 

Shook

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Actually this reminded me, I did have a client a year or so ago with a
similar problem, and changing the channel the Netgear used solved the
connection issue for him.  I can’t remember if we changed from channel 11 to
8, or 8 to 11 , but you get the idea.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend’s home network.
She had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old that included a
router and additional access point.  Nothing I did would get the Netgear to
keep a consistent connection; including pushing the reset button(s).
Changed to Linksys and everything came up fine. 

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I’m pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
morning wirelessly.

 

I’ve had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that’s part of
the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Richard Stovall]

Please.  You need a Spinal Tap.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Sweet…they go to 11 (name that movie J )
>
>
>
> I’m on a roll today, baby.
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:48 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Actually this reminded me, I did have a client a year or so ago with a
> similar problem, and changing the channel the Netgear used solved the
> connection issue for him.  I can’t remember if we changed from channel 11 to
> 8, or 8 to 11 , but you get the idea.
>
>
>
> *Erik Goldoff***
>
> *IT  Consultant*
>
> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>
> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>
> *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend’s home network.
> She had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old that included a
> router and additional access point.  Nothing I did would get the Netgear to
> keep a consistent connection; including pushing the reset button(s).
>  Changed to Linksys and everything came up fine.
>
>
>
> *Bill Lambert*
>
> *Concuity*
>
> *Phone  847-941-9206*
>
>
>
> *The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached
> files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the
> recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or
> authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified
> that you have received this communication in error and that any review,
> dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly
> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact
> the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message.  Thank you.
> ***
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> I’m pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
> Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
> an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
> connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
> client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
> morning wirelessly.
>
>
>
> I’ve had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that’s part of
> the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
> Wired, sure. Wireless, no.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
> 802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?
>
>
>
> *Erik Goldoff***
>
> *IT  Consultant*
>
> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>
> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Wireless Routers

[Bill Lambert]

Heh heh...Shook said swallow.

 

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Concuity

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From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

An African or European Swallow?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Another silly question;

 

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 

 

Shook

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
factory specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Andy Shook]

Sweet...they go to 11 (name that movie :) )

I'm on a roll today, baby.

Shook

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

Actually this reminded me, I did have a client a year or so ago with a similar 
problem, and changing the channel the Netgear used solved the connection issue 
for him.  I can't remember if we changed from channel 11 to 8, or 8 to 11 , but 
you get the idea.

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend's home network.  She 
had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old that included a router 
and additional access point.  Nothing I did would get the Netgear to keep a 
consistent connection; including pushing the reset button(s).  Changed to 
Linksys and everything came up fine.

Bill Lambert
Concuity
Phone  847-941-9206

The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, 
is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) 
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

I'm pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a Dell 
Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had an 
Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it 
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the client 
said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that morning 
wirelessly.

I've had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that's part of the 
reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future. Wired, 
sure. Wireless, no.

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF02E.8BAC30C0][cid:image002@01caf02e.8bac30c0]

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B, 802.11G, 
and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job) 
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router 
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to 
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went 
to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at 
home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to 
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to 
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different 
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless 
router. :)

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF02E.8BAC30C0][cid:image002@01caf02e.8bac30c0]






















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Erik Goldoff]

Actually this reminded me, I did have a client a year or so ago with a
similar problem, and changing the channel the Netgear used solved the
connection issue for him.  I can’t remember if we changed from channel 11 to
8, or 8 to 11 , but you get the idea.

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend’s home network.
She had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old that included a
router and additional access point.  Nothing I did would get the Netgear to
keep a consistent connection; including pushing the reset button(s).
Changed to Linksys and everything came up fine. 

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached
files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the
recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or
authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified
that you have received this communication in error and that any review,
dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly
prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact
the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message.  Thank you.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I’m pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
morning wirelessly.

 

I’ve had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that’s part of
the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Erik Goldoff]

Understood, but had to make sure it wasn’t an incompatibility between
802.11A router and G clients or vice versa ..

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I’m pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
morning wirelessly.

 

I’ve had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that’s part of
the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Yeah. well, it *was* working, until the user decided to move the router,
only to discover that he didn't have an internet jack where he wanted the
router, so I moved it back and ordered him a wireless PCI NIC for his
desktop. That was the catalyst for the new router.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 


Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no
business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and gets IP
settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff for free,
either.) 

Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, broadcasting
SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go with a more secure
set of security measures offered by the device. 

Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the users
NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but get no IP
settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure! 

BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the coast
of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
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"John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:28:17
AM:

> Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork 
> from Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included 
> the wireless password. It would "connect" but it would never get an 
> IP address. 
>   
> [image removed] [image removed] 
>   
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
>   
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> factory specs? 
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 > wrote: 
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> hooked it up. Instant success. 
> Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the 
> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm
> not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm 
> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
Linksys. 
> Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new 
> wireless router. J 
>   
> [image removed] [image removed] 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   

 

 

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RE: Wireless Routers

[RichardMcClary]

I would like to confess, however, that our Netgear WAP failed to provide a 
connection to one of our Mac users.  I have reset it via the web GUI.  If 
he still can't connect, I'll do a hard reset (pull the power cord).  If he 
still can't connect, well, thanks John for the "heads up" on Netgear.  (It 
had been doing fine for a couple of years.)
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
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richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote on 05/10/2010 09:38:04 AM:

> 
> Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no
> business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and 
> gets IP settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff 
> for free, either.) 
> 
> Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, 
> broadcasting SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go
> with a more secure set of security measures offered by the device. 
> 
> Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the
> users NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but 
> get no IP settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure! 
> 
> BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the
> coast of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
> -- 
> Richard D. McClary 
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
> ASPCA® 
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
> Urbana, IL  61802 
> 
> richardmccl...@aspca.org 
> 
> P: 217-337-9761 
> C: 217-417-1182 
> F: 217-337-9761 
> www.aspca.org 
> 
> The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments 
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Animals®
> (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named 
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> delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout 
thereof. 
> 
> 
> "John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 
09:28:17 AM:
> 
> > Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork 
> > from Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included 
> > the wireless password. It would ?connect? but it would never get an 
> > IP address. 
> > 
> > [image removed] [image removed] 
> > 
> > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
> > 
> > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> > factory specs? 
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
 > > wrote: 
> > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client?s site (side
> > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> > hooked it up. Instant success. 
> > Long story short ? if I ever have a job where I can?t get the 
> > wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I?m
> > not even going to spend time on it, I?ll just tell the client I?m 
> > going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another 
Linksys.
> > Just thought I?d pass this along for anyone who?s looking for a new 
> > wireless router. J 
> > 
> > [image removed] [image removed] 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: [ot] Wireless Routers

[Michael B. Smith]

That ain't what she said.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

It was just a flesh wound...I'm good.

Shook

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers


Well, there went Shook...

Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote on 
05/10/2010 09:29:33 AM:

> Blue, no...yellow
>
> Shook
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org<mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org> 
> [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]<mailto:[mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
> Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> --
> richard, from an autonomous collective
>
>
> Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>> wrote on 
> 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
>
> > Another silly question;
> >
> > What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
> >
> > Shook
> >
> > From: Cameron 
> > [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> >
> > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> > factory specs?
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com%0b>> > > wrote:
> > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
> > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
> > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> > hooked it up. Instant success.
> > Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the
> > wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm
> > not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm
> > going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
> > Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
> > wireless router. J
> >
> > [image removed] [image removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>









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RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Good to see I'm not the only person having problems with Netgear equipment.
I used to use Netgear for my ISDN dial-up accounts a few years back. Still
have the ISDN routers, if anyone's interested. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I usually have at least one employee a month telling me they can't get their
new wireless router to work and if I have any advice.  First question is if
it's a Netgear.  So far I'm batting 1000.  Tell them to take it back and get
a linksys/cisco branded one.

 

  _  

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Jonathan Link]

♫ Bravely ran away... ♫



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:38 AM,  wrote:

>
> Well, there went Shook...
>
> Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:29:33 AM:
>
> > Blue, no…yellow
> >
> > Shook
> >
> > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
>
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
> >
> >
> > Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> > --
> > richard, from an autonomous collective
> >
> >
> > Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
>
> >
> > > Another silly question;
> > >
> > > What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
> > >
> > > Shook
> > >
> > > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> > >
> > > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> > > factory specs?
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side
> > > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> > > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
> > > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
> > > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> > > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> > > hooked it up. Instant success.
> > > Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the
> > > wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m
> > > not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m
> > > going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another
> Linksys.
> > > Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> > > wireless router. J
> > >
> > > [image removed] [image removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[Andy Shook]

It was just a flesh wound...I'm good.

Shook

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers


Well, there went Shook...

Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:29:33 AM:

> Blue, no...yellow
>
> Shook
>
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
>
>
> Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
> --
> richard, from an autonomous collective
>
>
> Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
>
> > Another silly question;
> >
> > What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
> >
> > Shook
> >
> > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> >
> > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> > factory specs?
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  > > wrote:
> > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
> > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
> > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> > hooked it up. Instant success.
> > Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the
> > wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm
> > not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm
> > going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
> > Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
> > wireless router. J
> >
> > [image removed] [image removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>





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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[RichardMcClary]

Well, there went Shook...

Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:29:33 AM:

> Blue, no?yellow
> 
> Shook
> 
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Wireless Routers
> 
> 
> Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow? 
> -- 
> richard, from an autonomous collective 
> 
> 
> Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:
> 
> > Another silly question; 
> > 
> > What?s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 
> > 
> > Shook 
> > 
> > From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Wireless Routers 
> > 
> > Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> > factory specs? 
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
 > > wrote: 
> > This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client?s site (side
> > job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> > wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> > to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> > fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> > WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> > hooked it up. Instant success. 
> > Long story short ? if I ever have a job where I can?t get the 
> > wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I?m
> > not even going to spend time on it, I?ll just tell the client I?m 
> > going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another 
Linksys.
> > Just thought I?d pass this along for anyone who?s looking for a new 
> > wireless router. J 
> > 
> > [image removed] [image removed] 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[RichardMcClary]

Geek Squad should not set these things up!  If they do, they have no 
business leaving before confirming that the end user connects and gets IP 
settings, etc from it.  (I don't believe they do this stuff for free, 
either.)

Most of these things come with "default" settings wide-open, broadcasting 
SSID, no encryption, etc.  It is highly desirable to go with a more secure 
set of security measures offered by the device.

Now, if one chooses "n", an encryption standard not supported by the users 
NIC, etc, one will either not connect or will "connect" but get no IP 
settings.  Hey, if you can't connect, it is secure!

BTW, it is possible for a coconut to drift from the Caribbean to the coast 
of Ireland via the Gulf Stream.  Swallows need not be involved.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
richardmccl...@aspca.org
 
P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
www.aspca.org
 
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"John Aldrich"  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:28:17 
AM:

> Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork 
> from Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included 
> the wireless password. It would ?connect? but it would never get an 
> IP address. 
> 
> [image removed] [image removed] 
> 
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> 
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> factory specs?
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
 > wrote:
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client?s site (side
> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> hooked it up. Instant success. 
> Long story short ? if I ever have a job where I can?t get the 
> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I?m
> not even going to spend time on it, I?ll just tell the client I?m 
> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another 
Linksys.
> Just thought I?d pass this along for anyone who?s looking for a new 
> wireless router. J
> 
> [image removed] [image removed] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[Bill Lambert]

I had a similar experience with trouble shooting a friend's home
network.  She had a Netgear set up that was about a year and half old
that included a router and additional access point.  Nothing I did would
get the Netgear to keep a consistent connection; including pushing the
reset button(s).  Changed to Linksys and everything came up fine. 

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

Phone  847-941-9206

 

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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

I'm pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine
had an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys
in, it connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention
that the client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the
internet that morning wirelessly.

 

I've had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that's part
of the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the
future. Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

  

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Maglinger, Paul]

An African or European Swallow?

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Another silly question;

 

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 

 

Shook

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
factory specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

I'm pretty sure the Netgear was an 802.11G router. The Dell laptop has a
Dell Wireless Dual-Band WLAN card in it (on-board.) The Desktop machine had
an Edimax EX-7128G 802.11 b/g card installed. Once I got the Linksys in, it
connected right up and even got an IP address. Not to mention that the
client said his Vista laptop had problems getting onto the internet that
morning wirelessly.

 

I've had problems with Netgear wireless routers before and that's part of
the reason I will refuse to use Netgear wireless routers in the future.
Wired, sure. Wireless, no.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Andy Shook]

Blue, no...yellow

Shook

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers


Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
--
richard, from an autonomous collective


Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:

> Another silly question;
>
> What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>
> Shook
>
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
>
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
> factory specs?
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  > wrote:
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable
> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After
> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a
> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and
> hooked it up. Instant success.
> Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the
> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm
> not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm
> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
> Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
> [image removed] [image removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[David W. McSpadden]

What do you mean, an African or European Swallow?

 

  _  

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wireless Routers

 

Another silly question;

 

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 

 

Shook

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. :-)

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Richard Stovall]

African, or European?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Andy Shook  wrote:

>  Another silly question;
>
>
>
> What’s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?
>
>
>
> Shook
>
>
>
> *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers
>
>
>
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
> specs?
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[RichardMcClary]

Would that be an African swallow or a European swallow?
--
richard, from an autonomous collective


Andy Shook  wrote on 05/10/2010 09:26:05 AM:

> Another silly question;
> 
> What?s the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow? 
> 
> Shook
> 
> From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Wireless Routers
> 
> Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to 
> factory specs?
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
 > wrote:
> This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client?s site (side
> job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing 
> wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable 
> to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After 
> fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a 
> WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and 
> hooked it up. Instant success. 
> Long story short ? if I ever have a job where I can?t get the 
> wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I?m
> not even going to spend time on it, I?ll just tell the client I?m 
> going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another 
Linksys.
> Just thought I?d pass this along for anyone who?s looking for a new 
> wireless router. J
> 
> [image removed] [image removed] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

Nope, but I did review the settings on it, and I had the paperwork from
Geeksquad from when they originally set it up, which included the wireless
password. It would "connect" but it would never get an IP address. 

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

 

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich
 wrote:

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[N Parr]

I usually have at least one employee a month telling me they can't get
their new wireless router to work and if I have any advice.  First
question is if it's a Netgear.  So far I'm batting 1000.  Tell them to
take it back and get a linksys/cisco branded one.



From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers


Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to
factory specs?


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich <
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:


This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site
(side job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing
wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to
get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with
it for over  2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys
wireless (same exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant
success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the
wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not
even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to
go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a
new wireless router. J

 

  

 

 


 






 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Murray Freeman]

Just a quick response to your "Anti-Netgear" attitude. I've had 2
Netgear WIFI's and they both work just fine. When I moved up to a
Rangemax, I gave my old one to a friend and he reports no problems. Oh,
that was more than 2 years ago. I've worked on other brands at work, but
I'm very happy with my Netgear.I highly recvommend them. BTW, when
friends and relatives come over with laptops, we have no problems
connecting, and some of these people have MAC's. I'm using WPA2 and I
always have radio broadcast turned off.
 

Murray

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers



This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side
job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless
router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell
laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over
2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same
exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless
to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even
going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy
a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new
wireless router. J

 

  

 

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Andy Shook]

Another silly question;

What's the airspeed velocity of an un-laden swallow?

Shook

From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wireless Routers

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory 
specs?
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job) 
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router 
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to 
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I went 
to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at 
home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to 
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to 
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different 
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.
Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless 
router. :)

[cid:image001.jpg@01CAF02B.328EF4D0][cid:image002@01caf02b.328ef4d0]











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Wireless Routers

[Erik Goldoff]

Could be a dumb question, but what was the Netgear, 802.11A, 802.11B,
802.11G, and what was the wireless adapter in the user systems ?

 

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wireless Routers

 

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

Re: Wireless Routers

[Cameron]

Silly question, but did you try resetting the original one back to factory
specs?

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job)
> trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
> (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
> talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
> went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
> have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success.
>
> Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to
> connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to
> spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different
> router that **will** work and get another Linksys.
>
> Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new
> wireless router. J
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Wireless Routers

[John Aldrich]

This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job)
trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router
(Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to
talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over  2 hours, I
went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I
have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. 

Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to
connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to
spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different
router that *will* work and get another Linksys.

Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless
router. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>