[obrolan-bandar] BUMI : STRONG BUY...

[Khongchakim]

ANTM : STRONG SELL.

Liat di chart masing2 ya.

 

 

Untuk yang OPTIMIS BUMI : Rp.7000 , semoga TERKABUL dekat - dekat awal
DESEMBER

 

Salam,

Khong

[obrolan-bandar] BANDAR OVERWEIGHT !!!

[Jack Cowok]

LIhat transaksi harian sudah mulai menurun.
  Itu pun, bandar hanya switch saham.
   
  Saham2 yg biasanya dimainkan bandar (terutama properti tertentu) sudah 
dibuang 
  terus menerus dan dipindah ke METAL.
   
  Keserakahan bandar sudah terlihat.
  NAFSU besar TENAGA kurang.
   
  Keinginan bandar, agar lokal / retail ikut membantu, tetapi
  Retail / lokal, cuma ikut2 an dan main pendek.
   
  PREDIKSI :  Sudah OVERWEIGHT.
  KEMUNGKINAN :
  - Masuk ICU, disuntik INFUS (nambah dana)
  - MUNTAH (ini yg bahaya)
   
   
  Salam
  JACK

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[Bandar A]

Pilih mana: Apex dipegang perusahaan yang core bisnisnya sama (Bormindo,
pemilik land rig) atau perusahaan investasi (Abacus)?

Kalo Bormindo motifnya kemungkinan untuk pertumbuhannya, sedangkan Abacus
untuk dijual lagi.


On Nov 26, 2007 2:44 PM, bernanke20551 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Kalau benar turunkan dahulu dong , supaya bisa buy back ... he he
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "laven_28" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Penawar APEX tinggal dua aja.. ABACUS ama BORMINDO...
> > ABACUS itu bukannya ARRANGERnya... berarti yang nawar murah dong,
> sampe
> > arrangernya turun tangan
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[TerryAstradika]

wah nantang nih pak peter, ntar dikasih bom, begidik lagi..hihihi..
  
tapi bener kok, pasar bulish gini baru sehari dua, waspada deh, trapnya masih 
banyak !
   
  yang laen pada ijo, cuman china aja yang minus ampe 1persen lebih, ada apa 
gerangan..?
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..
  
PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  MANE NICH BOM NYA Udah ditunggu-tungguin …. Kok nggak ada 
yang Nge-BOM yach



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Watch out ANTM Backforward

[arnold]

napas dikit lah..

setiap tanjakan yg curam akan diganjar oleh turunan yg curam..
 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Efendi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Setelah sempat menguat dari Rp 4.225 pada 19 November 2007 menjadi 
Rp 4.925 today (19-26 November=gain Rp 700)..ANTM akan turun dulu ke 
4.500 sebelum naik lagi ke 5.500..agar dapat gain Rp 1.000.
> 
> 
> 
 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[bernanke20551]

Kalau benar turunkan dahulu dong , supaya bisa buy back ... he he



















--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "laven_28" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Penawar APEX tinggal dua aja.. ABACUS ama BORMINDO...
> ABACUS itu bukannya ARRANGERnya... berarti yang nawar murah dong, 
sampe 
> arrangernya turun tangan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[RATU SIMA]

Om,

The formula is like this:

1. Index bull, BUY HIGH SELL HIGHER.
2. Index sideways, BUY LOW SELL HIGH
3. Index bear, SELL LOW BUY LOWER

These 3 makes stock playing is SO COOL.

LG = Life's Good.

Love,
Aimee

On Nov 26, 2007 2:24 PM, PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
>
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> MANE NICH BOM NYA Udah ditunggu-tungguin …. Kok nggak ada yang Nge-BOM
> yach
>
>
>
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>
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> 
> ::BCA::
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> 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

Oom BK, Oom BK.. tuh ada yg nge-bel tuh...

Oom BK kmana?? jalan2?? (tp ada representatifnya nih kayanya skrg)

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> MANE NICH BOM NYA Udah ditunggu-tungguin  Kok nggak ada yang
> Nge-BOM yach
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> ::BCA::
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[arnold]

Ratu SIMA masih sodara seperguruan sama BRahma Kumbara..

..if they are not the same person..  

bener kan ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> sudah kubilang mba aimee ini masih sodaraan ama mba kentang, 
ngakunya nubie tapi ilmunya dalem tuh! mba kentang mah agak keras 
orangnya, kalu yang ini mah santuuunn banget, kang ocoy aja sampe 
tertarik...hahaha...
>
>   ciao! salam cuan selalu..
>   
> kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Lady Sis Aimee..
> 
> guess ure not an ordinary "newbie" investor afterall.. 
> 
> u got some quite "BA Tricks up ur sleeve"... Nice...
> 
> learn so fast on such a short time?, or actually u were a "pro" 
player
> on the first place...
> 
> without means of offence.., its just ure "too good" for a newbie..
> hardly believe u once claimed to be a "newbie" on these matter...
> 
> if u were truly a "newbie" on these.. than ure a "fearful" one i
> guess.. quite an edgy and confidence one i see u were...
> 
> hav a great trade...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  
wrote:
> >
> > Om TA,
> > 
> > 7000? EOY?
> > EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
> > No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.
> > 
> > Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...
> > 
> > Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...
> > 
> > Love,
> > Aimee
 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[Dean Earwicker]

Hati-hati IHSG gap up..

Selektif dalam pembelian, jangan asal tabrak.


Regards,
DE

On Nov 26, 2007 2:32 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Gak ada bom
> Kalau mau belanja, sekarang atau ketinggalan kereta Pak
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Gak ada bom
Kalau mau belanja, sekarang atau ketinggalan kereta Pak

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> MANE NICH BOM NYA Udah ditunggu-tungguin …. Kok nggak ada yang Nge-BOM
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Uuuuh INCO! Bandel yah.

Why not down first? (coz index is +).

17 December Stock Split 1 : 10.

Now I want 99000 before SS. Please...

Who cares lah? I will take it at 96000.

Biarin.

Love,
Aimee

[obrolan-bandar] MANE NICH BOM NYA????

[PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG]

MANE NICH BOM NYA Udah ditunggu-tungguin  Kok nggak ada yang
Nge-BOM yach

 

 

 

 

 



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

hahahahaha.. dunno mate, me too feels a bit resemblance to the dear
miss "kena-tanggung", ngebom tanggung2... 

tapi kata guru ngaji pan ga boleh seudzon.. hehe, sugan weh nya'an
lain si elaine pan dosa euy berprasangka yg buruk2...


perhaps she was telling the truth.. though it seems a bit too odd for
a newbie to have that "knowledge" already, while only just a few days
ago she appears on the surface..

perhaps she's just a smart indonesian abroad economics/finance college
graduate... eventually wealthy enough to invest and trade on stocks..,
and make her way onto it...

tapi ada alibinya jg sih pak...

td saya pancing pake kata2 "BA", kayanya dy blon familiar ama
Bandarmologi analysis khasnya si embah di milis ini...

she answered on global economics matter,...

there is a probabilities that it might be true that she is just a
smart young women who just graduate and make her way on her portfolio...


so Aimee, without means of offence... if ure really not acquintance or
related to elaine en kawan2nya... sayah minta maaf sudah "berprasangka
buruk"... its just this "elaine" thingy was quite a "joke" back then..
temen2 yg laen jg pasti msh rada2 "curiga" hehe...

hope no lies and tricks on these forum for now...

but if there is, well., thats how it rolls anyway.. ya ga Mbah??


PS : Guys, she might be for real... buktinya blon bawa2 "BOM" nih ampe
skrg.. he3X, tp gatau jg deh...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> sudah kubilang mba aimee ini masih sodaraan ama mba kentang,
ngakunya nubie tapi ilmunya dalem tuh! mba kentang mah agak keras
orangnya, kalu yang ini mah santuuunn banget, kang ocoy aja sampe
tertarik...hahaha...
>
>   ciao! salam cuan selalu..
>   
> kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Lady Sis Aimee..
> 
> guess ure not an ordinary "newbie" investor afterall.. 
> 
> u got some quite "BA Tricks up ur sleeve"... Nice...
> 
> learn so fast on such a short time?, or actually u were a "pro" player
> on the first place...
> 
> without means of offence.., its just ure "too good" for a newbie..
> hardly believe u once claimed to be a "newbie" on these matter...
> 
> if u were truly a "newbie" on these.. than ure a "fearful" one i
> guess.. quite an edgy and confidence one i see u were...
> 
> hav a great trade...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  wrote:
> >
> > Om TA,
> > 
> > 7000? EOY?
> > EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
> > No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.
> > 
> > Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...
> > 
> > Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...
> > 
> > Love,
> > Aimee
> 
> 
> 
>   .
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
>
>  Ciao! Salam cuan selalu..
>   Terry Astradika 
>
>
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] Watch out ANTM Backforward

[Efendi]

Setelah sempat menguat dari Rp 4.225 pada 19 November 2007 menjadi Rp 4.925 
today (19-26 November=gain Rp 700)..ANTM akan turun dulu ke 4.500 sebelum naik 
lagi ke 5.500..agar dapat gain Rp 1.000.




   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[laven_28]

Penawar APEX tinggal dua aja.. ABACUS ama BORMINDO...
ABACUS itu bukannya ARRANGERnya... berarti yang nawar murah dong, sampe 
arrangernya turun tangan




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bernanke20551" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Akan ada pull back kah sesi 2 ?
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Jacky]

bro charles...
saya ada tuh..udah diupload...
mudah2an bener yg itu...jd ga usah repot2 scan lg ya :D
hope it helps...

cheers,
jacky
 
---Original Message---
 
From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Date: 11/26/07 11:58:02
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun
with It!
 
saya mah gada euy.. yg laen??, anyone got the book??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kang, ocoy, sy newbie di bidang equity market. Ada temen yg saranin baca
> dulu bukunya Martin J Pring judulnya Technical Analysis Explained 4th
> edition.
> 
> Punya nggak ebook nya.
> 
> 
> 
> Saya sudah cari di gramedia, kinokuniya & spectra, tapi pd kosong.
> 
> Malah yg kebeli adalah study guide nya [isinya Tanya jawab gitu].
> 
> 
> 
> Kalo ada tolong upload ke milis kang.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> NB. Ini postingan sy yg pertama, salam untuk semua senior disini!
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun
with
> It!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
> therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 
> 
> Cek
> 
> http://finance.
> 
> groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> 
> since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
> krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
> buat contoh...
> 
> untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,
> 
> cb ambil dr ; 
> 
> http://stocks.
> 
> us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK
> 
> sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;
> 
> pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",
> 
> C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,
> 
> C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.
> 
> F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.
> 
> penjelasan :
> 
> Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung preferensi)
> 
> Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
> bloomberg ato reuters 
> 
> dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
> perkiraan laba bersih.
> 
> Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
> tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
> ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
> itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.
> 
> Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.
> 
> Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
> CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)
> 
> nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn ;
> 
> saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
> "ancer2" valuasi...
> 
> Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
> Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
> Dividen + Earning Model
> PER Model (highest valuation model)
> 
> penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
> sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.
> 
> Personal Note and Warning : 
> 
> untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
> berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
> merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
> target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
> "forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
> tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
> lebih advance dr worksheet ini.
> 
> saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
> expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
> tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
> utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
> dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
> sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
> karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutnya"
> gini, krn bisa2 nanti bukannya berguna malah jd "keblinger" gara2
> model ini. ntar bikin investasi MUTLAK dan jd PEDE berat pake model di
> worksheet ini. padahal ini mah basic dan simple and very2 less
> dependable. hanya saja yg "simpel" ini mungkin bisa sedikit berguna
> untuk ;
> 
> belajar dan mengerti ttg "sensitivitas" jika ada

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM.....PASTI Rp. 5000

[agoes_htm]

I doubt today will be closed at 5000, hehehe.. Many traders will take 
profit before 5000.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, MrJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We are now 2% short of 5000 and also there's a news
> that profit projection of ANTM increase by 300% to 5.2T
> 
> Wow men! case now close for ANTM . . . why?
> 5000 is not a problem, what bothers me now is:
> 6000 or 7000 or BNI's 8500 ...
> 
> Let's see their basis for making such statements :D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > kalu naik 3-5% per hari, masih ok lah! jangan ikut2an bumi deh 
antmnya,
> > dikit2 aja,biar nikmatinnya juga asiikk..
> > 
> >   pak Tibum, jangan kenceng2 naiknya, alon2 lah! asal klakon..
> >
> >   ciao! salam cuan selalu..
> >   
> > Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   Antm 4900 already done. Bumi 4875.
> > 5000 could be today (later of the day when fund is buying).
> > Hope for the best!
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Excuse Om, Tante, Eyang...
> > > 
> > > Uhm, today or tomorrow ANTM I believe can reach 4900 or 5000.
> > > Not only its products are diversified, but earnings have been 
> > smooth.
> > > Growth is EXCELLENT.
> > > And regional is that green.
> > > What to wait? Nothing.
> > > Riding my horse in JKSE horseracetrack.
> > > 
> > > Heyah heyah.
> > > 
> > > KMIIW.
> > > 
> > > Love,
> > > Aimee
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   .
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >
> >  Ciao! Salam cuan selalu..
> >   Terry Astradika 
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > -
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Mr. Kang Ocoy,

1. About Crude Oil passes by US 100, I don't think so. Why? Coz this
level of psychology (US 99) has been gamed smoothly by US and AS.
They have reached their target. Until King of US & AS finish their
reign, I'm not sure price will up more than US 100. Pls remember that
Kingdom of US (Pres. & Vice Pres. are oil maker & player, giant)
2. OPEC, I think will lower down oil price & production. If not what
OPEC's meeting is for. If not, better liquidate OPEC, I'll be in the
front line.
3. Another FED cut rate? Yes, I think so. To reduce horror of
sub-prime mortgage kan?
4. BI cut rate? Unlikely, GOI kan should preserve inflation level
target. Preserve image dong!

And wheeew, beautiful!

Life is good.

KMIIW.

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[TerryAstradika]

sudah kubilang mba aimee ini masih sodaraan ama mba kentang, ngakunya nubie 
tapi ilmunya dalem tuh! mba kentang mah agak keras orangnya, kalu yang ini mah 
santuuunn banget, kang ocoy aja sampe tertarik...hahaha...
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..
  
kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Lady Sis Aimee..

guess ure not an ordinary "newbie" investor afterall.. 

u got some quite "BA Tricks up ur sleeve"... Nice...

learn so fast on such a short time?, or actually u were a "pro" player
on the first place...

without means of offence.., its just ure "too good" for a newbie..
hardly believe u once claimed to be a "newbie" on these matter...

if u were truly a "newbie" on these.. than ure a "fearful" one i
guess.. quite an edgy and confidence one i see u were...

hav a great trade...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Om TA,
> 
> 7000? EOY?
> EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
> No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.
> 
> Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...
> 
> Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...
> 
> Love,
> Aimee



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[TerryAstradika]

oki doki,
   
  tins ok juga lah!
   
  alon2 asal klakon la yaw!!!
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

RATU SIMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Om TA,

7000? EOY?
EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.

Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...

Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...

Love,
Aimee


 

   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

Lady Sis Aimee..

guess ure not an ordinary "newbie" investor afterall.. 

u got some quite "BA Tricks up ur sleeve"... Nice...

learn so fast on such a short time?, or actually u were a "pro" player
on the first place...

without means of offence.., its just ure "too good" for a newbie..
hardly believe u once claimed to be a "newbie" on these matter...

if u were truly a "newbie" on these.. than ure a "fearful" one i
guess..  quite an edgy and confidence one i see u were...

hav a great trade...



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Om TA,
> 
> 7000? EOY?
> EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
> No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.
> 
> Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...
> 
> Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...
> 
> Love,
> Aimee
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO Tandatangani Kesepakatan dengan Petambak Plasma, HORE!!

[Angelo Ferdinand]

Mr Sparrow,
Pendapat anda juga poatut dipertimbangkan. Pas cutloss terus terbang, wah wah

On Nov 26, 2007 12:03 PM, Sparrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  > > > SIP : TBUMI
>  > contoh : kalau anda rugi Rp. 1 juta di CPRO dan dgn semua
>  > uang penjualan CPRO, anda dpt beli 2 LOT ANTM
>  > ANTM : Rp. 4650 x 2 LOT = Rp. 4'650'000
>  > Kerugian CPRO = Rp. 1'000'000
>  > Modal beli baru ANTM 2 LOT = Rp. 5'650'000
>  >
>  > Karena ada rugi di CPRO, maka modal beli anda ANTM bukan
>  > lagi di Rp. 4'650 melainkan sudah di Rp. 5'650.
>  > Jadi nanti anda harus jual diatas harga Rp. 5'650 baru
>  > anda dinyatakan untung dan jangan lupa hitung komisi broker.
>
>  sip ;sparrow
>
>  Yth; Pak TBUMI
>  Teknik switching begini apa tidak berbahaya ?
>  we cant really know what happend next of CPRO
>  Kalau ANTM berbalik arah, gundul donk 2-2 nya.
>  Maybe lebih baik CPRO didiamin aj.
>  Buffet said stock will hunt his hihget price ( 700 - an )?
>
>  Kalau mau maen yg lain, yah pake margin aj,
>  bursa bullish masa cut loss?
>
>
>
>  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Om TA,

7000? EOY?
EOY I think both 5500 - 6000 first lah.
No need so hurry. Little by little what matter is 'cuan'.

Train passengers kan should drop, if no 'overloaded' loh...

Btw, TINS will do some corp action. Only time...

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[TerryAstradika]

meski antm ga punya, tapi tetep aja katepaan ama Pak Tibum nulisnya ya!?
   
  kami ... KAMI... kami..!! hehehe..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  kelupaan. maap.

'kami': cleo dan kucingnya.

Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:  Pak TA, kami sudah nimbun dari 
bawah bawah. kalo harga bagus & ada rezeki ya beli. harga bagus beli lg. gitu 
aja terus mondar mandir kaya setrikaan.

jumat bagi dividend. cuma 3,8 perak seh namanya juga saham rakyat. pelor kami 
[hampir] di sono semua.

kami ndak nonton ANTM karena rezeki kami ndak di sana. rejeki kami di cpo kok. 

meminjam istilah Pak JL. semua akan indah bila waktunya. 

memangsahamcumadoang?.com

TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
  
  pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 620-650? mulai jalan tuh tbla-nya...
   
  nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...
   
  pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 620..:)

darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi 
spt AK, KZ 






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[obrolan-bandar] ANTM.....PASTI Rp. 5000

[MrJ]

We are now 2% short of 5000 and also there's a news
that profit projection of ANTM increase by 300% to 5.2T

Wow men! case now close for ANTM . . . why?
5000 is not a problem, what bothers me now is:
6000 or 7000 or BNI's 8500 ...

Let's see their basis for making such statements :D





--- TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> kalu naik 3-5% per hari, masih ok lah! jangan ikut2an bumi deh antmnya,
> dikit2 aja,biar nikmatinnya juga asiikk..
> 
>   pak Tibum, jangan kenceng2 naiknya, alon2 lah! asal klakon..
>
>   ciao! salam cuan selalu..
>   
> Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Antm 4900 already done. Bumi 4875.
> 5000 could be today (later of the day when fund is buying).
> Hope for the best!
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Excuse Om, Tante, Eyang...
> > 
> > Uhm, today or tomorrow ANTM I believe can reach 4900 or 5000.
> > Not only its products are diversified, but earnings have been 
> smooth.
> > Growth is EXCELLENT.
> > And regional is that green.
> > What to wait? Nothing.
> > Riding my horse in JKSE horseracetrack.
> > 
> > Heyah heyah.
> > 
> > KMIIW.
> > 
> > Love,
> > Aimee
> 
> 
> 
>   .
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
>
>  Ciao! Salam cuan selalu..
>   Terry Astradika 
>
>
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] No doubt, BUMI will will reach the 5000 line first

[TerryAstradika]

pak Tibum cukupan lah di 5% dulu utk hari ini utk antm, jangan ikut2an 
bumi..biar bumi naik kenceng yang pasti antm tetap oceee...saham dambaan tiap 
pemirsa...hahaha...
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

  note:
  antm tuh saham lelet, nanti dah kita buktikan akhir minggu ini..kalu ga 
terbukti tolong saya jangan diludahin ya...hahaha...
  
abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sekarang BUMI udah 4950
ANTM masih 4900

itupun ANTM sudah gak ada yang bid di 4900, malah yang bid di 4875 tinggal 300an
sementara bid BUMI masih banya yang di 4900



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[TerryAstradika]

Hi little Sis,
   
  i don't care 6000, i care about 7ooo (hihihi nolnya jadi mengecil, tapi 
profitnya tambah banyak..hehehe...)
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

RATU SIMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Om,

We target MEDC back to 6000.

It's been a bit problematic with Exxon, Texas Oil, bla bla bla...
I don't care.
I want 5600 to 6000.

Hopefully...

PS: Hi Koh BZ. Go with the flow...



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] New file uploaded to obrolan-bandar

[wondo aja]

Dear Kang Ocoy;
   
  Nuwun pisan untuk upload-annya yah...kami tunggu yah untuk valuasi yang 
intermediate, advanced sampe yang advance banget yah...
   
  thanks you Kang :_)
   
  God bless akang untuk segala kebaikannya
   
  peace
  wondo :_))

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[obrolan-bandar] TBLA......to:P.EKA end LAVEN8

[indra devista]

pak tanya dong...
perasaan kemarin ada penjelasan yg masih menggantung tentang 
uang muka yg di terima TBLA sebanyak 600m/60m(lupa saya).
apakah setelah laporan Q4 nya keluar bpk sudah dapat jawaban nya
tentang masalah ini?..
klu sudah tolong di jelaskan dong pak...
ini yg masih mengganjal saya untk masuk TBLA

trims...

GBU ALL...

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Udin G67]

bung cleo anda gmr bang rhoma, tapi nggak gemar minning ya. wah kalau aku gemar 
mining (antm,bumi,medc,ptba) baru yang kedua agro, tpi saat ini nggak pgng 
agro. nggak apa2 yang yg pntng kita tetap temen walaupun beda permainan.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Cleopatras Cat 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- 
TP 900


  Pak TA, kami sudah nimbun dari bawah bawah. kalo harga bagus & ada rezeki ya 
beli. harga bagus beli lg. gitu aja terus mondar mandir kaya setrikaan.

  jumat bagi dividend. cuma 3,8 perak seh namanya juga saham rakyat. pelor kami 
[hampir] di sono semua.

  kami ndak nonton ANTM karena rezeki kami ndak di sana. rejeki kami di cpo 
kok. 

  meminjam istilah Pak JL. semua akan indah bila waktunya. 

  memangsahamcumadoang?.com

  TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 620-650? mulai jalan tuh tbla-nya...

nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...

pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..

ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 620..:)

  darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Bagi mereka yang baru belajar saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER 
SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada 
akumulasi spt AK, KZ 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO Tandatangani Kesepakatan dengan Petambak Plasma, HORE!!

[Sparrow]

> > >  SIP : TBUMI
>contoh : kalau anda rugi Rp. 1 juta di CPRO dan dgn semua
>uang penjualan CPRO,  anda dpt beli 2 LOT ANTM
>ANTM : Rp. 4650 x 2 LOT  = Rp. 4'650'000
>Kerugian CPRO= Rp. 1'000'000
>Modal beli baru ANTM 2 LOT   = Rp. 5'650'000
> 
>Karena ada rugi di CPRO, maka modal beli anda ANTM bukan
>lagi di Rp. 4'650 melainkan sudah di Rp. 5'650.
>Jadi nanti anda harus jual diatas harga Rp. 5'650 baru 
>anda dinyatakan untung dan jangan lupa hitung komisi broker.

sip ;sparrow

Yth; Pak TBUMI
Teknik switching begini apa tidak berbahaya ?
we cant really know what happend next of CPRO
Kalau ANTM berbalik arah, gundul donk 2-2 nya.
Maybe lebih baik CPRO didiamin aj.
Buffet said stock will hunt his hihget price ( 700 - an )?

Kalau mau maen yg lain, yah pake margin aj,
bursa bullish masa cut loss?
  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Saham2 Lain

[Sam]

OB ini semakin focus aja .. ANTM and BUMI .. hehe .. Memang right on sich ..

 

Saran dong: selain ANTM, BUMI, discuss juga konstruksi dan property? Yg Big
Cap aja .. Spy ada portfolio diversification. 

 

 

Tks & Cheers.

Ultimate.

 

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jos_martino
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:50 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HATI2 baca SUBJECT EMAIL

 

Tapi ngga ada yang percaya...khan, take it easy aja, milis OB rata2 
orang pintar koq..

Happy cuan,
JM

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "rainbowstar789" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dari satu topik kemaren kira2 ada 30 reply, yg mungkin tidak 
dibaca 
> satu persatu isinya. Hanya dibaca Subjectnya saja..
> 
> Dari minggu malam diberitakan : SENIN MERAH berulang2. Padahal 
IHSG 
> +45. 
> 
> Ini bukan masalah tepat/ tidak tepat menebak IHSG. Tapi ada pihak 
yg 
> mencoba hipnotis trader dgn pengulangan subject berkali2.
> 
> 
> 
> Berikut Subject2nya :
> 
> Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> To All stakeholders BEJ...awas IHSG bakal diselimutin Karpet 
> MERAH...coz sedang terjadi carry trade YEN. ... Get easy, one-
click 
> access to your favorites Efendi
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> ... MERAH. ... Ini memnag sangat luar biasa kalau IHSG disambut 
dgn 
> karpet MERAH. Anda tahu, karpet MERAH biasanya hanya utk menyambut 
> tamu negara yg sangat...
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Pak Tbumi & rekan OB... IHSG senen MERAH, pasti ada yang ijo. IHSG 
> senin ijo, pasti ada yang MERAH... ya nggak ? Seperti biasa... 
ngekor 
> aja, ntar coba liat...
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[bernanke20551]

Akan ada pull back kah sesi 2 ?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] No doubt, BUMI will will reach the 5000 line first

[RATU SIMA]

Hmmm, my intuition says BUMI will close by 4950 - 5050.

If so, no big deal.

The question is which between ANTM & BUMI will 6000 first, not 5000 first.

End of December is still long way loh.

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] No doubt, BUMI will will reach the 5000 line first

[Salomo Gaol]

Dont get over excited pak.

closing sesi satu ANTM 4875.

The brightest flame burns quickest. Makanya saya sukanya si ANTM naek yang
tenang aja tp dropnya kecil2.

ehehehehewalo kali ini sih pengennya drop gede biar bisa nambah.

Pis,love n cuan

SLG

On 11/26/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   .
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC

[Eka Suwandana]

Berapa sih apex net profit USD30jt-40Jt, AREA 47 bisa gantinya minimal utk 5-6 
sumur USD40-60Jt (rencana sumur produksi ada selusin), OMAN ada tambahan 
sedikit sih dibawah 3% dari minimal 13000bopd. Ada Ethanol cuma sedikit.
  

kangduren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  MEDC bisa menembus IDR 5000 itu sudah bagus, tahulah kenapa, 
seandainya keadaan spt th 200..., mungkin. :hehehe
btw balik ke FA, menurut saya penjualan APEX ada berperan negatif juga 
krn income berkurang, bagi saya MEDC masih bisa naik di tahun depan, 
apalagi kalau dana dari penjualan dipakai utk produksi gas.
omong2 MEDC ada pabrik ethanol (atau metanol?), kalo ethanol itu 
harganya bisa naik banyak juga diperkirakan.



 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[iwan]

saya punya harcopy nya. 
beli di Kinokuniya KLCC. 
Tapi gimana cara bikin jadi PDF nya ?

Sebenarnya, TA itu mirip-mirip mau buku nya apa juga. 
yg susah handle emosi waktu buy/sell. 

Rgds
Iwanibe


  - Original Message - 
  From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:57 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with 
It!


  saya mah gada euy.. yg laen??, anyone got the book??

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > Kang, ocoy, sy newbie di bidang equity market. Ada temen yg saranin baca
  > dulu bukunya Martin J Pring judulnya Technical Analysis Explained 4th
  > edition.
  > 
  > Punya nggak ebook nya.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Saya sudah cari di gramedia, kinokuniya & spectra, tapi pd kosong.
  > 
  > Malah yg kebeli adalah study guide nya [isinya Tanya jawab gitu].
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Kalo ada tolong upload ke milis kang.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Thanks
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > NB. Ini postingan sy yg pertama, salam untuk semua senior disini!
  > 
  > _ 
  > 
  > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > On Behalf Of kang_ocoy_maen_saham
  > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:26 AM
  > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun
  with
  > It!
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
  > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
  > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
  > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
  > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
  > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 
  > 
  > Cek
  > 
  > http://finance.
  > 
  > groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
  > 
  > since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
  > krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
  > buat contoh...
  > 
  > untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,
  > 
  > cb ambil dr ; 
  > 
  > http://stocks.
  > 
  > us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK
  > 
  > sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;
  > 
  > pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",
  > 
  > C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,
  > 
  > C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.
  > 
  > F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.
  > 
  > penjelasan :
  > 
  > Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung preferensi)
  > 
  > Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
  > bloomberg ato reuters 
  > 
  > dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
  > perkiraan laba bersih.
  > 
  > Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
  > tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
  > ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
  > itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.
  > 
  > Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.
  > 
  > Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
  > CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)
  > 
  > nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn ;
  > 
  > saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
  > "ancer2" valuasi...
  > 
  > Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
  > Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
  > Dividen + Earning Model
  > PER Model (highest valuation model)
  > 
  > penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
  > sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.
  > 
  > Personal Note and Warning : 
  > 
  > untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
  > berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
  > merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
  > target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
  > "forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
  > tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
  > lebih advance dr worksheet ini.
  > 
  > saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
  > expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
  > tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
  > utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
  > dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
  > sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
  > karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutn

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[jos_martino]

Namanya udah bisa diganti PBLA (Pohon Baru Lampung) soalnya bentar 
lagi udah bisa dipanen..

rgs
JM

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Salomo Gaol" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Iya nih TBLA, saham untuk rakyat..
> 
> Hidup rakyat n hidup TBLA.
> 
> Hehehehe
> 
> On 11/26/07, Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   kelupaan. maap.
> >
> > 'kami': cleo dan kucingnya.
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Salomo Gaol]

Iya nih TBLA, saham untuk rakyat..

Hidup rakyat n hidup TBLA.

Hehehehe

On 11/26/07, Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   kelupaan. maap.
>
> 'kami': cleo dan kucingnya.
>
>
> .
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

saya mah gada euy.. yg laen??, anyone got the book??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kang, ocoy, sy newbie di bidang equity market. Ada temen yg saranin baca
> dulu bukunya Martin J Pring judulnya Technical Analysis Explained 4th
> edition.
> 
> Punya nggak ebook nya.
> 
>  
> 
> Saya sudah cari di gramedia, kinokuniya & spectra, tapi pd kosong.
> 
> Malah yg kebeli adalah study guide nya [isinya Tanya jawab gitu].
> 
>  
> 
> Kalo ada tolong upload ke milis kang.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> NB. Ini postingan sy yg pertama, salam untuk semua senior disini!
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:26 AM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun
with
> It!
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
> therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 
> 
> Cek
> 
> http://finance.
> 
> groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> 
> since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
> krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
> buat contoh...
> 
> untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,
> 
> cb ambil dr ; 
> 
> http://stocks.
> 
> us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK
> 
> sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;
> 
> pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",
> 
> C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,
> 
> C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.
> 
> F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.
> 
> penjelasan :
> 
> Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung preferensi)
> 
> Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
> bloomberg ato reuters 
> 
> dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
> perkiraan laba bersih.
> 
> Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
> tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
> ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
> itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.
> 
> Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.
> 
> Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
> CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)
> 
> nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn ;
> 
> saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
> "ancer2" valuasi...
> 
> Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
> Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
> Dividen + Earning Model
> PER Model (highest valuation model)
> 
> penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
> sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.
> 
> Personal Note and Warning : 
> 
> untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
> berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
> merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
> target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
> "forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
> tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
> lebih advance dr worksheet ini.
> 
> saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
> expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
> tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
> utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
> dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
> sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
> karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutnya"
> gini, krn bisa2 nanti bukannya berguna malah jd "keblinger" gara2
> model ini. ntar bikin investasi MUTLAK dan jd PEDE berat pake model di
> worksheet ini. padahal ini mah basic dan simple and very2 less
> dependable. hanya saja yg "simpel" ini mungkin bisa sedikit berguna
> untuk ;
> 
> belajar dan mengerti ttg "sensitivitas" jika ada perubahan2 dalam
> salah satu variabel input ke dalam valuasi akhir / TP. u could learn
> how "fundamental factors affect price"...
> 
> minimal ada pertahanan dr spekulasi dan kemungkinan "membeli terlalu
> mahal suatu saham"... bisa men-test secara simpel "justifikasi2" yg
> membenarkan kenapa kita beli di level harga itu (har

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI

[Salomo Gaol]

Infonnya kok ndak mutu bener...?

On 11/26/07, Rita Pardede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> AALI
> Meningkatnya permintaan domestik terhadap minyak sawit
> mentah (CPO) berdampak pada penurunan volume ekspor
> CPO PT Astra Agro Lestari Tbk (AALI). Tak
> tanggung-tanggung penurunan ekspor Astra Agro sampai
> Oktober 2007 mencapai lebih dari setengah nilai ekspor
> periode yang sama tahun lalu.
>
> Sumber: Indonesiancompany.com 
>
> Regards
> Rita
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

lah justru bagus kan itu, bisa di"coba" lgsg worksheetnya pake Data2
ANTM... meski tidak akan presisi..

coba aja deh.. pasti "seneng" coz kalo input datanya pake initial year
tahun ini.. wuahh Valuasi ANTM ya "Jegar-jeger-spektakulerr" lahh...

sok dicoba...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No one care about MEDC, TINS, and all the rest of the BEJ's stocks.
> Only ANTM (and BUMI). Coba aja liat. Topik kang Ocoy ini aja dimasukin
> oleh ANTM hahaha
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 5:31 AM, Januar Ingga Bayu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > kalo MEDC gimana yah??
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rei
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:24 AM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet -
Have Fun
> > with It!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > antm 4900 bumi 4925...siapa yg sampai 5000 duluan pun juga gak dapat
> > hadiah koq, jadi santai aja...
> > Both are winners, but pak tbumi is the champ! :p
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ups, no emotion.
> > > > > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> > > > > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ting tong ting tong.
> > > > > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> > > > >
> > > > > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> > > > > I still vote for ANTM!
> > > > >
> > > > > KMIIW
> > > > >
> > > > > Love,
> > > > > Aimee
> > > > > SIP : tbumi
> > > > ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
> > > > BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
> > > > bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.
> > >
> > > Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI
> > will
> > > reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
> > > back to 4875
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Cleopatras Cat]

kelupaan. maap.

'kami': cleo dan kucingnya.

Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:   Pak 
TA, kami sudah nimbun dari bawah bawah. kalo harga bagus & ada rezeki ya beli. 
harga bagus beli lg. gitu aja terus mondar mandir kaya setrikaan.

jumat bagi dividend. cuma 3,8 perak seh namanya juga saham rakyat. pelor kami 
[hampir] di sono semua.

kami ndak nonton ANTM karena rezeki kami ndak di sana. rejeki kami di cpo kok. 

meminjam istilah Pak JL. semua akan indah bila waktunya. 

memangsahamcumadoang?.com

TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
  
pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 620-650? mulai jalan tuh  tbla-nya...
   
  nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...
   
  pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 620..:)

darma erwin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi 
spt AK, KZ 






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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[charles]

Kang, ocoy, sy newbie di bidang equity market. Ada temen yg saranin baca
dulu bukunya Martin J Pring judulnya Technical Analysis Explained 4th
edition.

Punya nggak ebook nya.

 

Saya sudah cari di gramedia, kinokuniya & spectra, tapi pd kosong.

Malah yg kebeli adalah study guide nya [isinya Tanya jawab gitu].

 

Kalo ada tolong upload ke milis kang.

 

Thanks

 

NB. Ini postingan sy yg pertama, salam untuk semua senior disini!

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:26 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with
It!

 


Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 

Cek

http://finance.

groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/

since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
buat contoh...

untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,

cb ambil dr ; 

http://stocks.

us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK

sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;

pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",

C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,

C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.

F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.

penjelasan :

Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung preferensi)

Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
bloomberg ato reuters 

dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
perkiraan laba bersih.

Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.

Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.

Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)

nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn ;

saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
"ancer2" valuasi...

Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
Dividen + Earning Model
PER Model (highest valuation model)

penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.

Personal Note and Warning : 

untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
"forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
lebih advance dr worksheet ini.

saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutnya"
gini, krn bisa2 nanti bukannya berguna malah jd "keblinger" gara2
model ini. ntar bikin investasi MUTLAK dan jd PEDE berat pake model di
worksheet ini. padahal ini mah basic dan simple and very2 less
dependable. hanya saja yg "simpel" ini mungkin bisa sedikit berguna
untuk ;

belajar dan mengerti ttg "sensitivitas" jika ada perubahan2 dalam
salah satu variabel input ke dalam valuasi akhir / TP. u could learn
how "fundamental factors affect price"...

minimal ada pertahanan dr spekulasi dan kemungkinan "membeli terlalu
mahal suatu saham"... bisa men-test secara simpel "justifikasi2" yg
membenarkan kenapa kita beli di level harga itu (harus minimal berapa
incomenya, berapa growth ratenya, berapa market premium yg sesuai etc etc)

dan mudah2an bisa memacu keingintahuan untuk mencari yahu lebih dalam
ttg valuasi.

DISCLAIMER : EKSES DAN PENGGUNAAN KEPUTUSAN INVESTASI BERDASAR
WORKSHEET INI DITANGGUNG ASUMSI INPUT DAN KESADARAN MASING2 LOH YAH.
Keputusan Investasi itu Independen Keputusan Pribadi...

Regards..

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Cleopatras Cat]

Pak TA, kami sudah nimbun dari bawah bawah. kalo harga bagus & ada rezeki ya 
beli. harga bagus beli lg. gitu aja terus mondar mandir kaya setrikaan.

jumat bagi dividend. cuma 3,8 perak seh namanya juga saham rakyat. pelor kami 
[hampir] di sono semua.

kami ndak nonton ANTM karena rezeki kami ndak di sana. rejeki kami di cpo kok. 

meminjam istilah Pak JL. semua akan indah bila waktunya. 

memangsahamcumadoang?.com

TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:   
pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 620-650? mulai jalan tuh tbla-nya...
   
  nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...
   
  pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 620..:)

darma erwin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi 
spt AK, KZ 






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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

ya emang bisa diterima nalar pak.., cuman bikinnya kan aga complicated
pak.. maksudnya yg dcf value of firm.. temen2 disini harus bisa bikin
forecast lapkeu dulu dalam bentuk detail, dari atas ampe bawah harus
dibuat dulu, mulai Income Statement ampe cashflow ampe balance sheet..
ngajarinnya jg rada ribet kalo di milis... dari mulai revenue sampe
change in working capital harus bisa buat dan ngerti proses dan cara
kerjanya.. nah itu kan rada "ribet" ya pak.. kalo mulai dr situ
kesiann kayanya.. makanya saya "me-mini-kan" jd cuman perkiraan
forecast lapkeu ke depan jd bentuk "growth"nya doank itu aja tadi...

DDM/GGM itu kan sama aja DCF of Equity kalo growthnya konstan.. hanya
Cash Flow jrg yg konstan, dan jarang kondisi perusahaan yg segala
komponen income dan biayanya konstan... 

nah kalo yg mo DCF boleh lah latihan2nya dan panduannyaada ko di buku2
valuasi dan financial statement analysis.. segera kunjungi
perpustakaan fakultas ekonomi terdekat.. he2, worksheetnya bisa
belajar pake yg Damodaran ambil aja di homepagenya.. dari situ aja
bisa ko sambil kutak-kutik dikit lahh.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> setahu saya DCF malah bisa diterima secara nalar pak ...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham"
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
> > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cek
> > 
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> > 
> > since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
> > krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
> > buat contoh...
> > 
> > untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,
> > 
> > cb ambil dr ; 
> > 
> > http://stocks.us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;
> > 
> > pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",
> > 
> > C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,
> > 
> > C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.
> > 
> > F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.
> > 
> > penjelasan :
> > 
> > Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung
preferensi)
> > 
> > Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
> > bloomberg ato reuters 
> > 
> > dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
> > perkiraan laba bersih.
> > 
> > Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
> > tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
> > ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
> > itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.
> > 
> > Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.
> > 
> > Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
> > CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)
> > 
> > nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn  ;
> > 
> > saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
> > "ancer2" valuasi...
> > 
> > Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
> >   Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
> >   Dividen + Earning Model
> >   PER Model (highest valuation model)
> > 
> > penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
> > sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Personal Note and Warning : 
> > 
> > untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
> > berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
> > merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
> > target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
> > "forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
> > tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
> > lebih advance dr worksheet ini.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
> > expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
> > tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
> > utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
> > dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
> > sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
> > karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutnya"
> > gini, krn bisa2 nanti bukannya berguna malah jd "keblinger" gara2
> > model ini. ntar bikin investasi MUTLAK dan jd PEDE berat pake model di
> > worksheet i

[obrolan-bandar] Complains

[Sri Murni]

saya sudah menunggu hampir 1 bulan, tapi complain saya belum ada penyelesaian, 
dr yp 5835. saya minta laporan bulanan juga gak pernah diberi, bagaimana ini e 
trad. kok servicenya mengecewakan atau memang mau eliminasi nasabah gurem hanya 
mau trima yg kakap saja
saya sudah complain ke cab. sby tapi yg pihak sby juga hanya bisa meneruskan 
keluhan saya ke jkt karena memang mereka gak ada wewenang untuk memutuskan 
apapun, sekedar jadi penyambung lidah aja, yang mengecewakan saya ya pusat itu, 
hanya dijawab akan dichek dulu, tapi sampai kapan tidak ada kepastian dan gak 
pernah dijawab, saya sudah ber-kali2 tlp, menghabiskan banyak dana hanya untuk 
menanyakan nasib uang saYA  yang gak jelas perinciannya. perlu saya tegaskan 
keruwetan ini dimuali tg 29 okt, yaitu mulai adanya peraturan baru yang mau 
main paksa jual saham kalau ada yang minus di t + 3, tapi ini apa fair 
sangsinya, kalau etrad yang sering molor update data, ada transfer tidak 
langsung masuk porto folio, saya pernah transfer baru 2 minggu kemudian nampak 
di porto folio, hayo mana ada di sekuritas lain yang manual aja sehari nyampe, 
apalagi yg ini katanya online kok malah jongkok? sudah di fax bukti transfer 
ber kali2 ya tetap aja gak ada perubahan, apa sdm nya begitu parah, belum 
dididik dg benar untuk melayani konsumen? dan mungkin sudah kebanyakan nasabah 
sehingga merasa sangat dibutukan dan tidak pernah ngreken nasabah? tolong saya 
dikasih jawaban segera jangan hanya janji2 saja, sudah bosan saya karena banyak 
kesempatan hilang berarti juga merugikan saya secara tidak langsung dan jangan 
keluarkan peraturan yang cenderung merugikan nasabah tanpa meneliti dulu 
service e trad pada nasabah.makasih atas perhatiannya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[Kalyana Mitta]

Heboh APEX buat apa yah? heboh bumi dan antm aja..apex 2000

Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  is it good news or is it 
bad news for MEDC price ?

On Nov 24, 2007 12:48 PM, bernanke20551 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (Kontan 24 Nov 07)
> Berdasarkan penjelasan tertulis manajemen Medco kpd BEJ , mereka akan
> menggelar RUPSLB pd tgl 27 Des 07 dgn agenda tunggal yaitu meminta
> persetujuan pemegang saham atas rencana penjualan Apexindo .
>
> Hilmi Panigoro , Direktur Utama Medco berjanji akan mengumumkan
> pemenangnya pada awal pekan depan .
>
> 


 

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[obrolan-bandar] No doubt, BUMI will will reach the 5000 line first

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Sekarang BUMI udah 4950
ANTM masih 4900

itupun ANTM sudah gak ada yang bid di 4900, malah yang bid di 4875 tinggal 300an
sementara bid BUMI masih banya yang di 4900

[obrolan-bandar] Re: HATI2 baca SUBJECT EMAIL

[jos_martino]

Tapi ngga ada yang percaya...khan, take it easy aja, milis OB rata2 
orang pintar koq..

Happy cuan,
JM

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "rainbowstar789" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dari satu topik kemaren kira2 ada 30 reply, yg mungkin tidak 
dibaca 
> satu persatu isinya. Hanya dibaca Subjectnya saja..
> 
> Dari minggu malam diberitakan : SENIN MERAH berulang2. Padahal 
IHSG 
> +45. 
> 
> Ini bukan masalah tepat/ tidak tepat menebak IHSG. Tapi ada pihak 
yg 
> mencoba hipnotis trader dgn pengulangan subject berkali2.
> 
> 
> 
> Berikut Subject2nya :
> 
> Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> To All stakeholders BEJ...awas IHSG bakal diselimutin Karpet 
> MERAH...coz sedang terjadi carry trade YEN. ... Get easy, one-
click 
> access to your favorites Efendi
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> ... MERAH. ... Ini memnag sangat luar biasa kalau IHSG disambut 
dgn 
> karpet MERAH. Anda tahu, karpet MERAH biasanya hanya utk menyambut 
> tamu negara yg sangat...
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Pak Tbumi & rekan OB... IHSG senen MERAH, pasti ada yang ijo. IHSG 
> senin ijo, pasti ada yang MERAH... ya nggak ? Seperti biasa... 
ngekor 
> aja, ntar coba liat...
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
> Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN Balasan: 
[obrolan-
> bandar] Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] kok gak ada yang sebut?

[BEJ Trader]

I just left MIRA at 660.
I gave the "tongkat estafet" to another Bozz...
Good Luck

Regards,
The Bandar

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sucahya Jaya 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:06 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] kok gak ada yang sebut?



  yang sebut sebut MIRA lagi mana nih?? kok pada sepi?

  ENRG susah banget naik nya kenapa yah? apa masih masalah ama lapindo?
  thanks

  SJ


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Hi Om,

We target MEDC back to 6000.

It's been a bit problematic with Exxon, Texas Oil, bla bla bla...
I don't care.
I want 5600 to 6000.

Hopefully...

PS: Hi Koh BZ. Go with the flow...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

No one care about MEDC, TINS, and all the rest of the BEJ's stocks.
Only ANTM (and BUMI). Coba aja liat. Topik kang Ocoy ini aja dimasukin
oleh ANTM hahaha

On Nov 26, 2007 5:31 AM, Januar Ingga Bayu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> kalo MEDC gimana yah??
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Rei
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:24 AM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun
> with It!
>
>
>
>
> antm 4900 bumi 4925...siapa yg sampai 5000 duluan pun juga gak dapat
> hadiah koq, jadi santai aja...
> Both are winners, but pak tbumi is the champ! :p
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ups, no emotion.
> > > > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> > > > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> > > >
> > > > Ting tong ting tong.
> > > > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> > > >
> > > > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> > > > I still vote for ANTM!
> > > >
> > > > KMIIW
> > > >
> > > > Love,
> > > > Aimee
> > > > SIP : tbumi
> > > ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
> > > BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
> > > bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.
> >
> > Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI
> will
> > reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
> > back to 4875

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Kidod25]

setahu saya DCF malah bisa diterima secara nalar pak ...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
> therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it... 
> 
> 
> 
> Cek
> 
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> 
> since kmaren jg ada yg nanya BLTA, untuk contohnya coba ke saham ini,
> krn karakteristiknya jg stable growth jd relatif lebih enak dipake
> buat contoh...
> 
> untuk inputnya bisa diambil dari laporan keuangan biasa aja,
> 
> cb ambil dr ; 
> 
> http://stocks.us.reuters.com/stocks/overview.asp?symbol=BLTA.JK
> 
> 
> 
> sedikit tutorial utk membuat Hitungan fair value saat ini ;
> 
> pertama2 buka worksheet "data input sheet",
> 
> C5 sampe C13 itu bisa diinput dr laporan keuangan,
> 
> C13 dan selanjutnya itu asumsi atau forecast kita.
> 
> F7 Perkiraan realistis exit harga 5 tahun ke depan.
> 
> penjelasan :
> 
> Riskfree rate = SBI ato kupon SUN jangka panjang (tergantung preferensi)
> 
> Beta saham = historikal sensitivitas saham kpd market, bisa didapet di
> bloomberg ato reuters 
> 
> dividen = perkiraan DPR kira2(atau payout ratio historikal)dikali
> perkiraan laba bersih.
> 
> Stock Repo = Jumlah perkiraan saham yg akan dibuyback perusahaan pada
> tahun itu hingga batas level tertinggi ketentuan buyback perusahaan,
> ditinggalkan tidak terisi (dikosongkan) jg gapapa kalo keterangan ttg
> itu tidak ada/sulit didapat.
> 
> Market Premium = perkiraan return rata2 market equity.
> 
> Expected Growth Rate = perkiraan pertumbuhan laba perusahaan (bisa
> CAGR atau perkiraan yg berbeda2 utk masing2 tahun)
> 
> nah dari bagian 21 kebawah itu hasil komputasi dgn  ;
> 
> saya asumsikan variasi bbrp valuasi dasar ini bisa mencover utk skdar
> "ancer2" valuasi...
> 
> Komputasi Gordon Growth Model (Constant dr tahun awal valuasi) 
>   Variable Growth (tingkat pertumbuhan bervariasi)
>   Dividen + Earning Model
>   PER Model (highest valuation model)
> 
> penjelasan mengenai formula dan komputasi dr masing2 model ada di
> sheet tersendiri yg sebaiknya dilihat jg untuk tahu cara kerjanya.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Personal Note and Warning : 
> 
> untuk sekedar dasar2 atau perkiraan "kasar2an", worksheet ini cukup
> berguna... hanya ya itu, ini mah simpel pisan jd saya jg ga mau
> merekomenkan untuk menggunakan ini utk buat "forward value" alias
> target nilai wajar di masa yg akan "datang"... karena utk buat
> "forward value" kita harus buat Laporan keuangan forecast sendiri utk
> tahun2 ke depan, baru dimasukkan sbg input didalam worksheet yg jauh
> lebih advance dr worksheet ini.
> 
> 
> 
> saya sendiri ingin mengingatkan bahwa "there is no shortcut to
> expertise".., maksudnya kalo model ini bisa kepake, alangkah baiknya
> tetep dipelajari di buku referensi dan textbook2 finance dan valuasi
> utk cara kerja, filosofi dan latihan pembuatan tentang masing2 model
> dalam worksheet ini. sukur2 bisa latihan soal dr mulai bikin manual
> sampe ke komputasi menggunakan forecasted financial statement sendiri.
> karena ya itu td.., sebenernya bahaya jg saya kasih lgsg "shortcutnya"
> gini, krn bisa2 nanti bukannya berguna malah jd "keblinger" gara2
> model ini. ntar bikin investasi MUTLAK dan jd PEDE berat pake model di
> worksheet ini. padahal ini mah basic dan simple and very2 less
> dependable. hanya saja yg "simpel" ini mungkin bisa sedikit berguna
> untuk ;
> 
> belajar dan mengerti ttg "sensitivitas" jika ada perubahan2 dalam
> salah satu variabel input ke dalam valuasi akhir / TP. u could learn
> how "fundamental factors affect price"...
> 
> minimal ada pertahanan dr spekulasi dan kemungkinan "membeli terlalu
> mahal suatu saham"... bisa men-test secara simpel "justifikasi2" yg
> membenarkan kenapa kita beli di level harga itu (harus minimal berapa
> incomenya, berapa growth ratenya, berapa market premium yg sesuai
etc etc)
> 
> 
> dan mudah2an bisa memacu keingintahuan untuk mencari yahu lebih dalam
> ttg valuasi.
> 
> 
> 
> DISCLAIMER : EKSES DAN PENGGUNAAN KEPUTUSAN INVESTASI BERDASAR
> WORKSHEET INI DITANGGUNG ASUMSI INPUT DAN KESADARAN MASING2 LOH YAH.
> Keputusan Investasi itu Independen Keputusan Pribadi...
> 
> 
> 
> Regards..
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] to Pak Eka S: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[Eka Suwandana]

Kalo saya sih udah anggap MEDCO punya tambahan minimum 36000bopd dari Libya dan 
13000bopd dari OMAN, dan diskonsolidasi APEX itu hitungan pesimis. Selama MEDCO 
GLOBAL belum listing, nggak ada pilihan lebih baik daripada MEDC.JK. 

Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Kalau naik, berarti good
Kalau turun, berarti bad..


Masalahnya medc itu agak laggard, sekalinya gerak liar banget...

Just be careful..

long term sih ok, short term gak tau...

Pak Eka, mohon komentarnya... 

Regards,
DE

  On Nov 26, 2007 11:10 AM, Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
is it good news or is it bad news for MEDC price ?
  







  

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Januar Ingga Bayu]

kalo MEDC gimana yah??

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rei 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:24 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with 
It!


  antm 4900 bumi 4925...siapa yg sampai 5000 duluan pun juga gak dapat 
  hadiah koq, jadi santai aja...
  Both are winners, but pak tbumi is the champ! :p 

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  
  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Ups, no emotion.
  > > > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
  > > > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
  > > >
  > > > Ting tong ting tong.
  > > > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
  > > >
  > > > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
  > > > I still vote for ANTM!
  > > >
  > > > KMIIW
  > > >
  > > > Love,
  > > > Aimee
  > > > SIP : tbumi
  > > ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
  > > BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
  > > bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.
  > 
  > Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI 
  will
  > reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
  > back to 4875
  >



   

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Ibnu Rusdan]

Saya mau dong filenya Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet

Kirim ke   [EMAIL PROTECTED] aja deh

 

Ibnu Rusdan

Dealer Pasar Modal

DIVISI PUPM

PT JAMSOSTEK (Persero)

Phone : 5207797 ext 3183

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Marcello Djunaidy
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:58 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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lha...kok filenya error?

On Nov 26, 2007 10:56 AM, Marcello Djunaidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com> wrote:

udah bisa di download...

thanks

MD

 

On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham < kang_ocoy_maen_
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
simple and
> > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> >
> > Cek
> >
> > http://finance.

groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
>

 

 

 

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[rainbowstar789]

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Dari minggu malam diberitakan : SENIN MERAH berulang2. Padahal IHSG 
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Ini bukan masalah tepat/ tidak tepat menebak IHSG. Tapi ada pihak yg 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[budi zhu]

Dear Kang Ocoy,

Kang Ocoy, saya mau mengucapkan terima kasih atas file excel basic valuation
yang telah diupload di milis.

Dengan adanya file tersebut akan sangat membantu dalam pick stock.

Semoga YMK memberkarti kita semua.


Best Regards and All Due Respect,

Budi

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Sucahya Jaya]

kang...
  gimana caranya make sheet XL tersebut? masukin data langsung aja gitu?
  maaf masih newbie soalnya...hehehe
  makasih banyak kang!

kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  nA-Ah, Not me, Not my stuffs.. hehe.. di seberang meja saya noh udah
ada yg udah bagiannya "trading harian".., she deals my office's
trading portfolio.. en jauh di jalan seberang fund kolektif saya en
temen jg dah ada sebagian kecil proporsi dana yg dihandle sama "market
player yg kerjaannya keluar masuk harian"...
me??, u'hh im no good at it.. just sit around and working on some
excel sheet, do some screening, examining financial statement, do some
valuation, initiating some, upgrading others., downgrading few
others.. made a recommendation, rebalancing the portfolio... and of
course.., sit learn and watch things and stuffs here on OB...

everyone is for their role missy... 

nah, u hav a gud trade than today yah...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ups, no emotion.
> Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> 
> Ting tong ting tong.
> Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> 
> And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> I still vote for ANTM!
> 
> KMIIW
> 
> Love,
> Aimee
>



 

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Eka Suwandana]

Aman beli TBLA lihat saja di website www.tunasbarulampung.com , umur profile 
lahan sudah di update. Saham ini bisa ditahan sampai 2015 dan akan naik terus 
asalkan DER dibawah 2 (diatas itu RI lagi ). 1000 sih perem.

TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 
620-650? mulai jalan tuh tbla-nya...
   
  nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...
   
  pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 620..:)

darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi 
spt AK, KZ 






  .
 



   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> antm 4900 bumi 4925...siapa yg sampai 5000 duluan pun juga gak 
dapat 
> hadiah koq, jadi santai aja...
> Both are winners, but pak tbumi is the champ! :p 
> 
  SIP : TBUMI
  Yg menang juga para investor yg duluan cepat masuk sejak dulu.
  Yg masuk saat ini butuh waktu beberapa hari lagi baru
  bisa menang cuan, karena ANTM bisa naik terus.
  Masih belum terlambat utk menang, karena target berikutnya
  adalah Rp. 6000 di akhir 2007.



> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  
> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Ups, no emotion.
> > >  > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> > >  > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> > >  >
> > >  > Ting tong ting tong.
> > >  > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> > >  >
> > >  > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> > >  > I still vote for ANTM!
> > >  >
> > >  > KMIIW
> > >  >
> > >  > Love,
> > >  > Aimee
> > >  > SIP : tbumi
> > >  ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
> > >  BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
> > >  bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.
> > 
> > Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI 
> will
> > reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
> > back to 4875
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HIDUP ANTM....ANTM.....PASTI Rp. 5000

[RATU SIMA]

Sssst...
Om, no need so loud.
Om Ical is also maintaning pride lah.
Look at how round 2 will knock.
Knock in or knock out?
The winner always comes at last dong???

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kinerja Antam melambung

[Mas Anto]

Biasanya kalau sudah ada berita resmi, harganya dalam 1-2 hari bakalan
melorot,
kayaknya ada yang pernah nulis siapa ya..
Buy On Rumors
Sell On News

So...siap-siap saja, biar kalau melorot tidak melotot



On 11/26/07, Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>hati-hati ANTM bisa ke 5.000 dlm waktu dekat...punya ANTM bisa
> menyebabkan ANDA jadi OKB (Orang Kaya Baru).
>
>
>
>
>
> Senin, 26/11/2007
> Kinerja Antam melambung
>
>- 
> Cetak
>
> JAKARTA: PT Aneka Tambang Tbk hingga akhir tahun diperkirakan meraup laba
> bersih Rp5,2 triliun, naik lebih dari 300%�� dibandingkan dengan perolehan
> laba tahun lalu Rp1,56 triliun.
>
> Melambungnya kinerja perusahaan milik negara ini didukung lonjakan harga
> komoditas tambang global a.l. emas dan nikel yang masing-masing naik 44%
> dan 100% dalam dua tahun terakhir. "Perolehan laba bersih Antam didukung
> penjualan yang akan mencapai Rp10 triliun-Rp11 triliun," ujar sumber Bisnis
> di internal perusahaan, akhir pekan lalu.
>
> Namun, Direktur Utama PT Antam Dedi Aditya Sumanegara menolak berkomentar
> lebih jauh soal itu.
>
> Kepala Analis PT Kresna Graha Sekurindo Tbk Adrian Rusmana memprediksi
> perolehan laba bersih Antam sampai akhir tahun berkisar Rp4,9 triliun. Angka
> itu bisa meningkat lagi kalau harga nikel terus merangkak naik.
>
> Pergerakan harga saham Antam� terus menunjukkan tren meningkat. Harga
> saham Antam pekan lalu kembali naik 6,9% menjadi Rp4.650 per saham
> dibandingkan dengan hari sebelumnya. "Nilai wajar harga Antam setelah
> akuisisi bisa mencapai Rp8.500 per saham yang didukung juga oleh kenaikan
> harga emas," kata Norico Gaman, Analis BNI Securities.
>
> Gaman memperkirakan laba bersih Antam dapat mencapai posisi Rp5 triliun
> pada akhir tahun. Namun, Antam tidak bisa dibandingkan dengan perusahaan
> tambang lainnya seperti PT International Nickel Indonesia Tbk yang hanya
> memiliki satu produk.
>
> "Inco berbeda dengan Antam, kinerja Antam lebih menjanjikan dibandingkan
> dengan Inco karena adanya diversifikasi produk yang lebih luas. Inco sangat
> bergantung kepada Nikel, sedangkan Antam memiliki bauksit, aluminium, emas,
> dan lainnya yang harganya sedang tinggi."
>
> Harga emas pekan lalu mencapai US$824 per ounce, telah naik hingga 44%
> sejak akhir 2005. Sementara itu, harga nikel di London bertengger ke posisi
> US$28.926 per ton, naik lebih dari 100% dua tahun terakhir.
> *
> Rencana akuisisi*
>
> Selain mengembangkan usaha, Antam juga mengkaji kemungkinan�� mengalihkan
> rencana mengakuisisi perusahaan pertambangan emas dari semula membeli PT
> Newmont Nusa Tenggara (NNT) ke pertambangan emas lain.
>
> Adrian juga menjelaskan akuisisi yang akan dilakukan oleh Antam terhadap
> 10% saham NNT sebaiknya tidak perlu dipaksakan.
>
> "Paling maksimal Antam hanya� dapat 10% saham, tetapi harus mengeluarkan
> uang kas�� 30%-40% dari total aset. Tidak ada manfaatnya jika dipaksakan."
>
> Aset Antam pada 30 September 2007 mencapai Rp10,93 triliun sehingga
> perseroan harus menyiapkan dana Rp3,2 triliun untuk membiayai akuisisi saham
> NNT.
>
> Menurut sumber Bisnis lainnya, Antam akan mengakuisisi perusahaan
> pertambangan emas lainnya apabila 10% saham NNT tidak bisa diperoleh.
>
> Antam meminati semua saham Newmont yang masih mungkin untuk diakuisisi
> dari NNT. Bahkan BUMN itu sudah mengantongi komitmen dana dari BCA, Bank
> BNI, Bank Mandiri US$1,25 miliar untuk akuisisi beberapa tambang emas itu.
> *(adhitya noviardi)*
>
> --
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your 
> homepage.
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] to Pak Eka S: MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[Dean Earwicker]

Kalau naik, berarti good
Kalau turun, berarti bad..


Masalahnya medc itu agak laggard, sekalinya gerak liar banget...

Just be careful..

long term sih ok, short term gak tau...

Pak Eka, mohon komentarnya...

Regards,
DE

On Nov 26, 2007 11:10 AM, Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   is it good news or is it bad news for MEDC price ?
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Antm & Bumi kejar2-

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Uhm, I match ANTM with TINS, not BUMI.
> Just anticipating schedule of EGMS, devidend sharing, & stock split
> Somebody has real schedule. SS maybe January. Seems so.
> Meanwhile price in LME rises...
> 
> Love,
> Aimee
>  SIP : TBUMI
  Pemain TINS sangat sedikit, maka nilai transaksi TINS
  juga rendah beserta volumenya. 
  Kalau ANTM pengemarnya banyak dan tentu akan membuat
  sahamnya lebih cepat naik nanti.

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Antm & Bumi kejar2-

[RATU SIMA]

Uhm, I match ANTM with TINS, not BUMI.
Just anticipating schedule of EGMS, devidend sharing, & stock split
Somebody has real schedule. SS maybe January. Seems so.
Meanwhile price in LME rises...

Love,
Aimee

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Rei]

antm 4900 bumi 4925...siapa yg sampai 5000 duluan pun juga gak dapat 
hadiah koq, jadi santai aja...
Both are winners, but pak tbumi is the champ! :p 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA"  
wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Ups, no emotion.
> >  > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> >  > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> >  >
> >  > Ting tong ting tong.
> >  > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> >  >
> >  > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> >  > I still vote for ANTM!
> >  >
> >  > KMIIW
> >  >
> >  > Love,
> >  > Aimee
> >  > SIP : tbumi
> >  ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
> >  BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
> >  bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.
> 
> Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI 
will
> reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
> back to 4875
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[TerryAstradika]

pak CC, ga nambah lagi di 620-650? mulai jalan tuh tbla-nya...
   
  nonton antm dulu aja ya...? biar harapan tbla naik tambah besarhihihi...
   
  pak AA, daripada nyesel liatain antm naik terus, mending duitnya masukin ke 
tbla aja sebagian, cuman saran lho pak..jangan diikutin...hihihi..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu...

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 
620..:)

darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!

Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi 
spt AK, KZ 






  .

 
 


 
   
 Ciao! Salam cuan selalu..
  Terry Astradika 
   
   

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

On Nov 26, 2007 5:02 AM, tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > Ups, no emotion.
>  > Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
>  > U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
>  >
>  > Ting tong ting tong.
>  > Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
>  >
>  > And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
>  > I still vote for ANTM!
>  >
>  > KMIIW
>  >
>  > Love,
>  > Aimee
>  > SIP : tbumi
>  ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
>  BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di
>  bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.

Despite of your faith (and mine too) on ANTM, it seems that BUMI will
reach the finish line first. Now BUMI reaches 4900 while ANTM goes
back to 4875

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HIDUP ANTM....ANTM.....PASTI Rp. 5000

[TerryAstradika]

kalu naik 3-5% per hari, masih ok lah! jangan ikut2an bumi deh antmnya, dikit2 
aja,biar nikmatinnya juga asiikk..

  pak Tibum, jangan kenceng2 naiknya, alon2 lah! asal klakon..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..
  
Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Antm 4900 already done. Bumi 4875.
5000 could be today (later of the day when fund is buying).
Hope for the best!

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Excuse Om, Tante, Eyang...
> 
> Uhm, today or tomorrow ANTM I believe can reach 4900 or 5000.
> Not only its products are diversified, but earnings have been 
smooth.
> Growth is EXCELLENT.
> And regional is that green.
> What to wait? Nothing.
> Riding my horse in JKSE horseracetrack.
> 
> Heyah heyah.
> 
> KMIIW.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee



  .

 
 


 
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Antm & Bumi kejar2-a

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> ngapain pegang dua2nya satu aja gain sama kok..? hehehe..
>
>   ciao! salam cuan selalu..
> 
  SIP : TBUMI
  Anda benar. Pembalap kuda biasanya mau tunggangi satu 
  jenis kuda saja.  


> abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   NOoo
> 
> Turun dulu se
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 3:35 AM, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sama2 4825-4850 dgn vol. Antm menang belasan milyar. Kita lihat 
siapa
> > yg sampai garis finish duluan...Selamat buat yg pegang 
dua2nya...Pak
> > DE? Traktir dong! :)
> 
> 
>  
> 
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

waduh ms iya bos?, iya td sih waktu upload rada2 ngerror gitu..

tp td saya cek download bisa ko... coba lg aja pak.. ntar kalo ga bisa
jg saya send lewat milis aja dah.. kecil ini sizenya..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Marcello Djunaidy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> lha...kok filenya error?
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 10:56 AM, Marcello Djunaidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > udah bisa di download...
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > MD
> >
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
> > > kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
,
> > > "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> > >
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on
> > > stock
> > > > > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is
a rather
> > > > > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very
simple
> > > > > one... because its simple, it is very-very less
dependable... but
> > > > > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
> > > simple and
> > > > > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use
it...
> > > > >
> > > > > Cek
> > > > >
> > > > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> > > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Akhmad Ferdinand]

kang Ocoy, you're the man!
Ambil di yahoo groups Obrolan Bandar bagian filenya pak.

On 11/26/07, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> >  valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> >  complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> >  one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> >  quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
> >  therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> >
> >  Cek
> >
> >  http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antm & Bumi kejar2-a

[TerryAstradika]

ngapain pegang dua2nya satu aja gain sama kok..? hehehe..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  NOoo

Turun dulu se

On Nov 26, 2007 3:35 AM, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sama2 4825-4850 dgn vol. Antm menang belasan milyar. Kita lihat siapa
> yg sampai garis finish duluan...Selamat buat yg pegang dua2nya...Pak
> DE? Traktir dong! :)


 

   
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[obrolan-bandar] kok gak ada yang sebut?

[Sucahya Jaya]

yang sebut sebut MIRA lagi mana nih?? kok pada sepi?
   
  ENRG susah banget naik nya kenapa yah? apa masih masalah ama lapindo?
  thanks
   
  SJ

   
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[obrolan-bandar] etrading.....cape dech...........

[addi_wong]

Saya ingin tanya kepada rekan2 yg pernah mengalami masalah dgn 
etrading, apakah masalah nya akhirnya di selesaikan oleh e-trading.?
Saldo bank saya berkurang dan  saya sdh berulang kali complain, baik 
melalui CS - sering gak di angkat- dan walaupun tersambung setelah 
mendengar keluhan saya tlpn tiba2 putus. Hal tsb saya alami 2 kali , 
saya tidak tahu apakah itu kesengajaan ato tidak. Karena kesal saya 
datang langsung ke kantor cabang dgn menyerahkan bukti R/K dan di akui 
sendiri oleh e-trading memang ada  kesalahan  pendebetan dan 
dijanjikan akan di follow up tp sampai sekarang belom ada penyelesaian.
Appetite saya utk bertransaksi lewat etrading menjadi hilang dan 
berencana utk menutup rekening tp bagaimana dgn saldo saya yg 
berkurang tsb kalo tetap tidak ada penyelesaian?
kemana saya harus mengadu ???

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet

[gangway]

Udah kang …. Bisa dapet dan buka juga,
Tapi belon di maeinin …. Masih liat celingak celinguk ndulu

A3K


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kang_ocoy_maen_saham
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar]  - Have Fun with It!


TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
simple and
> > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> >
> > Cek
> >
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Marcello Djunaidy]

lha...kok filenya error?

On Nov 26, 2007 10:56 AM, Marcello Djunaidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> udah bisa di download...
>
> thanks
>
> MD
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
> > kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on
> > stock
> > > > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> > > > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> > > > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> > > > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
> > simple and
> > > > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> > > >
> > > > Cek
> > > >
> > > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global

[Irawan Sudarman]

is it good news or is it bad news for MEDC price ?

On Nov 24, 2007 12:48 PM, bernanke20551 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> (Kontan 24 Nov 07)
>  Berdasarkan penjelasan tertulis manajemen Medco kpd BEJ , mereka akan
>  menggelar RUPSLB pd tgl 27 Des 07 dgn agenda tunggal yaitu meminta
>  persetujuan pemegang saham atas rencana penjualan Apexindo .
>
>  Hilmi Panigoro , Direktur Utama Medco berjanji akan mengumumkan
>  pemenangnya pada awal pekan depan .
>
>  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[Marcello Djunaidy]

udah bisa di download...

thanks

MD

On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
> kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> > > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> > > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> > > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> > > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
> simple and
> > > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> > >
> > > Cek
> > >
> > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
> >
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] ENRG

[Sucahya Jaya]

ENRG kok gak ada yang tarik ya??
  mohon bantuan informasinya dong para suhu disini...
  terima kasih

   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

nA-Ah, Not me, Not my stuffs.. hehe.. di seberang meja saya noh udah
ada yg udah bagiannya "trading harian".., she deals my office's
trading portfolio.. en jauh di jalan seberang fund kolektif saya en
temen jg dah ada sebagian kecil proporsi dana yg dihandle sama "market
player yg kerjaannya keluar masuk harian"...
me??, u'hh im no good at it.. just sit around and working on some
excel sheet, do some screening, examining financial statement, do some
valuation, initiating some, upgrading others., downgrading few
others.. made a recommendation, rebalancing the portfolio...  and of
course.., sit learn and watch things and stuffs here on OB...

everyone is for their role missy... 

nah, u hav a gud trade than today yah...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ups, no emotion.
> Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> 
> Ting tong ting tong.
> Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> 
> And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> I still vote for ANTM!
> 
> KMIIW
> 
> Love,
> Aimee
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Yup Mr. T,

My portfolio between both = 4 : 1.
In addition, Ical's stocks are moody, sometimes.
I focus on ANTM, TINS, & PTBA.
YO YO

Love,
Aimee

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[jos_martino]

Ssst... TBLA paling kenceng 6.45% rupanya semua ngarepin deviden 
bulan depan..

JM


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tbumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > tadi udah 660 tuh, tapi turun lagi ke 650. Sebel deh gue sama 
tbla
> > ini. gemes habis... pengen nendang pantatnya biar lebih kenceng
> > wakakaka
> 
> 
> > SIP : TBUMI
>   Kalau ada satu atau dua saham yg lagi ngetop di buru investor,
>   maka saham yg lain susah naik, karena konsentrasi investor
>   ke saham yg lagi ngetop.
> 
>  
> > On Nov 26, 2007 4:44 AM, jos_martino  wrote:
> > >
> > > Klo tembus 650 bakal ke 700...
> > >
> > >  Happy cuan
> > >  JM
> > >
> > >  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Data Saham 

> > >
> > >  wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat 
ada 
> di
> > >  620..:)
> > >  >
> > >  > darma erwin 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas IHSG MERAH SENIN

[Odink]

hehee ikutin aja yg punya hajatan. kita cari makan dari bandar yg punya  
hajatan, bukan cari makan dari ngelawan bandar.
jd kl ada yg lagi ada hajatan jgn diganggu, jg jangan ngerebut rejeki  
bandar :))

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:16:26 +0700, arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I start to feel stupid riding on the wave of new highs, am I
> stupid...??
>


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "RATU SIMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ups, no emotion.
> Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
> U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.
> 
> Ting tong ting tong.
> Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.
> 
> And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
> I still vote for ANTM!
> 
> KMIIW
> 
> Love,
> Aimee
>  SIP : tbumi
  ANTM duluan yg tembus Rp. 6000 dan bukan BUMI.
  BUMI pernah crashed sekali beberapa hari dulu di 
  bawah Rp. 4000, jadi investor ada yg kecewa dgn BUMI.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[Data Saham]

KZ hari ini boroong byk...sebelumnya dia juga boorongpaling tidak dia jual 
di 850 (profit 30%) ...jadi klo 700 dia belum kenyang PROFITNYA,,,jd HOLD saja 
yg punya TBLA jgn jual dulu ya:D



jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Klo tembus 
650 bakal ke 700...
 
 Happy cuan
 JM
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:
 >
 > hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 
 620..:)
 > 
 > darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:   Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
 saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
 avoid.avoid..!!
 > 
 > Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 > TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada 
 akumulasi spt AK, KZ 
 > 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> tadi udah 660 tuh, tapi turun lagi ke 650. Sebel deh gue sama tbla
> ini. gemes habis... pengen nendang pantatnya biar lebih kenceng
> wakakaka


> SIP : TBUMI
  Kalau ada satu atau dua saham yg lagi ngetop di buru investor,
  maka saham yg lain susah naik, karena konsentrasi investor
  ke saham yg lagi ngetop.

 
> On Nov 26, 2007 4:44 AM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Klo tembus 650 bakal ke 700...
> >
> >  Happy cuan
> >  JM
> >
> >  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Data Saham 
> >
> >  wrote:
> >  >
> >  > hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada 
di
> >  620..:)
> >  >
> >  > darma erwin 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[RATU SIMA]

Ups, no emotion.
Market is good. Why not focus on trading or going with rally?
U can do that this noon, Mr. Kang Ocoy.

Ting tong ting tong.
Let's rally in marathon before oil >100 and windowdressing.

And a... which is first reaching 6000: ANTM or BUMI?
I still vote for ANTM!

KMIIW

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

udah bisa dibuka
thx den Bagus eh kang Ocoy
jgn kapok bagi2 ilmu yahh

On Nov 26, 2007 4:49 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
>  kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
>
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
>  >
>  > On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
>  > > valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
>  > > complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
>  > > one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
>  > > quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
>  simple and
>  > > therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
>  > >
>  > > Cek
>  > >
>  > > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

tadi udah 660 tuh, tapi turun lagi ke 650. Sebel deh gue sama tbla
ini. gemes habis... pengen nendang pantatnya biar lebih kenceng
wakakaka

On Nov 26, 2007 4:44 AM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Klo tembus 650 bakal ke 700...
>
>  Happy cuan
>  JM
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di
>  620..:)
>  >
>  > darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[kang_ocoy_maen_saham]

TAU NIH NET KANTOR LG SERET, PUTUS2.. UDAH ADA BLON??
kalo udah ada en bisa kebuka kasitau yeh.. ni eror mulu dr td..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???
> 
> On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
> >  valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
> >  complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
> >  one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
> >  quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is
simple and
> >  therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
> >
> >  Cek
> >
> >  http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM BISA TEMBUS RP. 6000 DI AKHIR 2007

[TerryAstradika]

yahudi memang saat ini sangat berpengaruh di dalam pemerintahan dan industri 
amrik, dan bukan hanya di amrik saja mereka punya pengaruh, bbrp negara pun 
merupakan cengkeraman mereka baik secara langsung / tidak langsung (via amrik 
juga).
   
  yahudi pintar memainkan duitnya, dan mereka tidak mau duitnya di amrik amblas 
hanya gara2 kredit macet kpr, kalu perlu amblasnya dikirim ke negara lain 
(jepang misalnya), toh sekarang yen lagi tinggi2nya otomatis ekspor mereka jadi 
kalah bersaing dengan negara lain, apalagi dengan indonesia..hahahaha indonesia 
kebagian getah untungnya ternyata...
   
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "laven_28" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Betul sekali, kayaknya US gak bakal resesi, yang kena getahnya 
adalah 
> Eropa dan Jepang
> Sekarang aja, klo kita yang biasanya import barang2 Eropa udah 
mulai 
> cari2 yang buatan US, karna barang2 Eropa dari kursnya aja udah 
naek 
> 20%... Jepang juga begitu, klo Yen ke 100 per US... bisa kolap 
> exportir Jepang!
> 
> SIP : TBUMI
Tak mungkin ada resesi di USA karena semua negara Industri 
Jerman, Korsel, Jepang dll sangat berhutang budi dgn USA.
Dgn hadirnya militer USA di kota Berlin Barat dulu, maka
Jerman barat tak begitu takut dgn kepungan tentara Rusia 
yg ada di Jerman Timur. Jerman merupakan jantung kekuatan
ekonomi di Eropa saat ini.
Demikian juga dgn Korsel dan Jepang. Dgn adanya militer USA
di Korsel, maka Korut takut menyerang Korsel dan Jepang.
India dan China bisa berjaya karena kehadiran investor USA
disana. Sedangkan dgn Israel, orang terkaya di USA banyak
orang Israel juga.
Jadi USA masih aman aman saja dan jangan takut. Semua negara
masih segan dan patuh dgn omongan negara cowboy ini.




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900

[jos_martino]

Klo tembus 650 bakal ke 700...

Happy cuan
JM


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> hari ini TBLA lumayan naiknya sempat ke 650...support kuat ada di 
620..:)
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> darma erwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:   Bagi mereka yang baru belajar 
saham, "BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN" 
avoid.avoid..!!
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> Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
> TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada 
akumulasi spt AK, KZ 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO Tandatangani Kesepakatan dengan Petambak Plasma, HORE!!

[tbumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dhany Setiawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> Selamat dulu untuk pak tbumi...
> Hasil dari promosinya, makin banyak orang yg hold antm
> makin banyak yg hold, harga makin cepet naik
> 
> Tapi ada inflow tentu ada outflow...
> Seandainya outflownya pelan2 nggak ada masalah, 
> kalo yg beli antm cuma karena ikut2an, trus panik selling, bisa 
parah juga...
> 
> anyway... pak tbumi sudah sukses menggiring opini publik, selamat!! 
> 
> Jadi inget dulu ada yg bilang tmpi saham seribu umat karena yakin 
bakal naik terus :)
> 
  SIP : TBUMI
  Anda dpt ilmu ini gratis dari OB, maka jangan lupa membantu
  teman atau saudara anda juga gratis bila mereka belum
  mengerti teknis bermain saham



>   - Original Message - 
>   From: tbumi 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:08 AM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO Tandatangani Kesepakatan 
dengan Petambak Plasma, HORE!!
> 
> 
>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker" 
>wrote:
>   >
>   > Okelah CPRO punya fundamental bagus(?), tapi kalo bandarnya mo 
>   jualan, masa
>   > kita sok-sok an mau nampung...
>   > 
>   > Logika aja, *kalau memang bagus, kenapa mereka mau jual? *Kasar 
pula
>   > caranya. Kalau bd nya smart, dia mesti angkat dulu baru jual. 
Kalau 
>   di level
>   > sekarang, siapa yang mau beli? secara psikologis tidak 
menarik...
>   > 
>   > Wong mata semua orang ke mining sama agri.
>   > 
>   > Udah lah, bandarnya aja gak mau pegang... sama kaya POLY... 
forget 
>   it..
>   > literlally... if they don't like it, why should we...?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Regards,
>   > DE
> 
>   > sip : tbumi
>   Memang pemikiran anda cerdas. Kalau barang yg nilainya akan
>   naik terus seperti ANTM, tentu tak akan dijual murah di market.
>   Ini pasti ada sesuatu yg ngak beres di CPRO. Maka kami 
>   bilang, jauhilah dulu CPRO dulu.
> 
>   > On Nov 25, 2007 11:36 PM, jsxtraders  wrote:
>   > 
>   > > Sejak tgl 1/11, HD net sell 73rb lot.. setengahnya BW.
>   > >
>   >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Discre Fund

[TerryAstradika]

jual beli saham adalah highrisk, namun sebagai imbalannya adalah high return / 
profit
  minjemin duit tanpa jaminan (hanya selembar sertifikat ber-notariil) adalah 
very very high risk karena high no-return (dibawa lari maksudnya dananya 
nanti..)
   
  berinvestasilah utk diri sendiri, dan percayailah pada dirimu sendiri..
   
  ciao! salam cuan selalu..

tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Maksud pak JL, client tersebut mau pinjem duit khan?
> Hmmm, mau dipake beli ANTM kali??? kekekeke
> 
> On Nov 25, 2007 3:16 PM, James Liem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear all members

> > SIP : TBUMI
Memang ANTM lagi hebat sekali sampai ada yg berani cari
pinjaman utk beli ANTM.
Memang kalau pinjaman minimal 3 bulan, tentu bisa untung
besar dgn ANTM karena peluang naiknya ANTM masih besar.
Selama 3 bulan masih ada kesempatan naik diatas 10%, maka
kesempatan keluar masih besar.
Asal jangan pinjam utk beberapa hari atau minggu saja, 
sebab kesempatan keluar sedikit karena faktor merah bursa
regional nanti. 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Basic Stock Valuation Worksheet - Have Fun with It!

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Mana sih file excelnya kang ocoy???

On Nov 26, 2007 4:25 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>  Several Days ago somebody ask me for excel worksheet example on stock
>  valuation... here it goes, since a DCF or FCFE worksheet is a rather
>  complex for newbie to comprehend, ill start with just a very simple
>  one... because its simple, it is very-very less dependable... but
>  quite an appropriate one for just learning the input is simple and
>  therefore i guess it wouldnt be difficult for anyone to use it...
>
>  Cek
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>  http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/files/