date:20120405

2012/4/6 Pedro Giffuni 

>
> Hi Lily;
>
> --- Gio 5/4/12, xia zhao  ha scritto:
> ...
>
> > Data: Giovedì 5 Aprile 2012, 22:03
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On the lincese page, http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. It still
> > saying "developers could use the Creative Commons
> > Attribution License
> > ("Attribution-NoDerivs
> > 2.5").
> > SUN/Oracle only accepted work under this license that was
> > non-editable and
> > for which there was no editable version that could be
> > contributed to the
> > project.".
> >
>
> If you notice carefully, the phrase is in past tense and
> applies only to legacy releases.
>
> > Who can help modify this page?
> >
>
> I think a review to the whole page is desirable for
> the new release. Any committer can change it using
> the Apache CMS bookmarklet or SVN. The big question
> is what to write in there.
>
>   Yes. I can review the whole pages but what to write here is one problem.
Maybe here we can just replace Sun/Oracle using Apache? Rob or other
project mentors, can you advise?

Lily

Cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>
>

[WWW] Australian OO site

2012-04-05 Thread Ian

Hi All,

I found this http://www.openoffice.org.au/ is it part of the Apache World
.. or should it be? I can't see how recent it is, but it should probably be
brought into line with the current world?

Cheers,

Ian

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Hi Kevin...

It would not hurt making the logo in vector. I know that Rob wanted the
logo in .SVG format.

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I a can recreate in vector. Is SVG our format of choice?
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Being a Photoshop Amateur I would not know how to make the seagull orb a
> > vector graphic. Were you able to use the .svg file that I sent earlier?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Fisher  >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi Michael,
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> >>>
>  Whoops, sent the files to the Apache development list...
> 
>  Resending...
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael Acevedo  >
> >> wrote:
>  Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...
> 
>  Hope this helps!
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo  >
> >> wrote:
>  Kay,
> 
>  I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is
> >> causing the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?
> >>>
> >>> I opened up the Photoshop file. This is a bitmap logo. It is
> >> anti-aliased from vectors at a particular resolution. When you scale a
> >> graphic like that you get interesting effects that can include lower
> >> resolution.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have a vector version?
> >>>
> >>
> >> It looks like the globe with wings was from a PNG.  Whether or not
> >> there is a vector source for that is unknown.  If we decide to stick
> >> with this logo it may be worth recreating it in vector form.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk 
> >> wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>  Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
>  keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
>  ok?
> 
>  Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we
> >> would either ".png" or open ".jpg".
> 
>  Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that
> >> as well.
> 
>  Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
>  <
> >>
> http://www.lynda.com/promo/freepass/Default.aspx?lpk35=930&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=ldc_affiliate&utm_content=655&utm_campaign=CD1733&bid=655&aid=CD1733&opt=
> >>>
> 
> 
>  Video courses on SEO, CMS,
>  Design and Software Courses
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  *From:* Kay Schenk 
>  *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
>  2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
> 
>  in the Wiki...
> 
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo   > wrote:
> 
>  Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
> 
>  I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
>  have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
>  find
>  them in
>  the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
> 
>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> 
> 
> 
>  Scroll down to sub header #5...
> 
>  Thanks!
> 
>  -- Best, Michael
> 
> 
>  SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
> 
>  Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
>  losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
>  don't feel confident about this.
> 
>  If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
>  page:
> 
>  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> 
>  add another attachment and let us know. --
> 
> >>
> 
> 
> 
>  MzK
> 
>  "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
>  and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
> 
> 
> 
>  --
> 
> 
>  MzK
> 
>  "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>    -- Robert Heinlein
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>  Best,
>  Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>  Best,
>  Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>  Best,
>  Michael
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

2012-04-05 Thread Kevin Grignon

Hey All,

I a can recreate in vector. Is SVG our format of choice?

Regards,
Kevin 

On Apr 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> 
> Being a Photoshop Amateur I would not know how to make the seagull orb a
> vector graphic. Were you able to use the .svg file that I sent earlier?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>> 
 Whoops, sent the files to the Apache development list...
 
 Resending...
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael Acevedo 
 >
>> wrote:
 Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...
 
 Hope this helps!
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo 
 >
>> wrote:
 Kay,
 
 I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is
>> causing the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?
>>> 
>>> I opened up the Photoshop file. This is a bitmap logo. It is
>> anti-aliased from vectors at a particular resolution. When you scale a
>> graphic like that you get interesting effects that can include lower
>> resolution.
>>> 
>>> Do you have a vector version?
>>> 
>> 
>> It looks like the globe with wings was from a PNG.  Whether or not
>> there is a vector source for that is unknown.  If we decide to stick
>> with this logo it may be worth recreating it in vector form.
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk 
>> wrote:
 
 
 On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
 Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
 keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
 ok?
 
 Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we
>> would either ".png" or open ".jpg".
 
 Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that
>> as well.
 
 Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
 <
>> http://www.lynda.com/promo/freepass/Default.aspx?lpk35=930&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=ldc_affiliate&utm_content=655&utm_campaign=CD1733&bid=655&aid=CD1733&opt=
>>> 
 
 
 Video courses on SEO, CMS,
 Design and Software Courses
 
 
 
 
 *From:* Kay Schenk 
 *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
 
 in the Wiki...
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
 
 I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
 have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
 find
 them in
 the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
 
 
 
 Scroll down to sub header #5...
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- Best, Michael
 
 
 SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
 
 Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
 losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
 don't feel confident about this.
 
 If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
 page:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
 
 add another attachment and let us know. --
 
>> 
 
 
 MzK
 
 "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
 and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
 
 
 
 --
 
 MzK
 
 "Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
   -- Robert Heinlein
 
 
 
 --
 Best,
 Michael
 
 
 
 
 --
 Best,
 Michael
 
 
 
 
 --
 Best,
 Michael
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael

Re: Who can help modify the licese page?


Hi Lily;

--- Gio 5/4/12, xia zhao  ha scritto:
...

> Data: Giovedì 5 Aprile 2012, 22:03
> Hi all,
> 
> On the lincese page, http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. It still
> saying "developers could use the Creative Commons
> Attribution License
> ("Attribution-NoDerivs
> 2.5").
> SUN/Oracle only accepted work under this license that was
> non-editable and
> for which there was no editable version that could be
> contributed to the
> project.".
> 

If you notice carefully, the phrase is in past tense and
applies only to legacy releases.

> Who can help modify this page?
> 

I think a review to the whole page is desirable for
the new release. Any committer can change it using
the Apache CMS bookmarklet or SVN. The big question
is what to write in there.

Cheers,

Pedro.

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Hi Rob,

Being a Photoshop Amateur I would not know how to make the seagull orb a
vector graphic. Were you able to use the .svg file that I sent earlier?

Thanks.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Fisher 
> >
> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> >
> >> Whoops, sent the files to the Apache development list...
> >>
> >> Resending...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael Acevedo 
> >> >
> wrote:
> >> Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...
> >>
> >> Hope this helps!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo 
> >> >
> wrote:
> >> Kay,
> >>
> >> I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is
> causing the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?
> >
> > I opened up the Photoshop file. This is a bitmap logo. It is
> anti-aliased from vectors at a particular resolution. When you scale a
> graphic like that you get interesting effects that can include lower
> resolution.
> >
> > Do you have a vector version?
> >
>
> It looks like the globe with wings was from a PNG.  Whether or not
> there is a vector source for that is unknown.  If we decide to stick
> with this logo it may be worth recreating it in vector form.
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
> >> Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
> >> keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
> >> ok?
> >>
> >> Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we
> would either ".png" or open ".jpg".
> >>
> >> Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that
> as well.
> >>
> >> Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> >> <
> http://www.lynda.com/promo/freepass/Default.aspx?lpk35=930&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=ldc_affiliate&utm_content=655&utm_campaign=CD1733&bid=655&aid=CD1733&opt=
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> >> Design and Software Courses
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Kay Schenk 
> >> *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
> >> 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
> >>
> >> in the Wiki...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
> >>
> >> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
> >> have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
> >> find
> >> them in
> >> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scroll down to sub header #5...
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -- Best, Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
> >>
> >> Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
> >> losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
> >> don't feel confident about this.
> >>
> >> If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
> >> page:
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> >>
> >> add another attachment and let us know. --
> >>
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> MzK
> >>
> >> "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
> >> and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> 
> >> MzK
> >>
> >> "Women and cats will do as they please,
> >>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> >>-- Robert Heinlein
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

[Propose RC Build Blocker]Bug 119162 - two copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from oo3.3 to 3.4 on Suse 11 SP1 and soffice will crash after open a file

Hi all,

I propose 119162 as release blocker. On Suse 11 SP1, after upgrade from OO0
3.3 to AOO 3.4, crash occurs. On Ubuntu 10.04, after upgrader, couldn't
launch AOO. It means we have big upgrade problem on Linux platform. So
should be taken as release blocker.

*Bug 119162*  - two
copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from oo3.3 to 3.4 on Suse 11 SP1
and soffice will crash after open a file

Best Regards,

Lily

Re: openoffice cannot be launched after upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4 on Ubuntu?

Andre,

What Qing Le talked about is couldn't launch AOO on Ubuntu after she
upgrade from OOo 3.3 to AOO 3.4, nothing related crash.

Lily

2012/4/5 Andre Fischer 

> Hi,
>
> I have on plea to all of us:  if you find any ugly crashes, please flag
> them as potential show stopper as soon as possible.  Remember, we are
> nearing our first release candidate.
>
> The problem below was already known four days ago (issue 119162,
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119162
> ).
>
> Thank you,
> Andre
>
>
> On 05.04.2012 10:42, lou ql wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu 10.04
>> build: r1303653
>>
>> clean install oo 3.4 it works well, but if upgrade from oo3.3, it cannot
>> be
>> launched.
>>
>> I run ./soffice in terminal and get the errors:
>>
>> javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
>> Application Error
>>
>> Fatal exception: Signal 6
>> Stack:
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/**
>> libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1f0e4)[**0xdd80e4]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/**
>> libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1ff78)[**0xdd8f78]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/**
>> libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20050)[**0xdd9050]
>> [0xfdf400]
>> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(**abort+0x182)[0x52ea82]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**
>> so(+0xdd1ad)[0x79791ad]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**so(_**
>> ZN11Application5AbortERK6Strin**g+0x1a)[0x79a009e]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**
>> libsofficeapp.so(+0x154f8)[**0x1254f8]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**
>> so(+0x107805)[0x79a3805]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**libvos3gcc3.so(_**
>> ZN3vos26signalHandlerFunction_**implEPvP13oslSignalInfo+0x12)[**0x216cce]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/**
>> libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20023)[**0xdd9023]
>> [0xfdf400]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.so
>> (+0x2c756)[0x1b6b756]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.so
>> (+0x30267)[0x1b6f267]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.so
>> (+0x2e7b6)[0x1b6d7b6]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**
>> libdeploymentmisc.so(_ZN7dp_**misc16syncRepositoriesERKN3com**
>> 3sun4star3uno9ReferenceINS2_**3ucb19XCommandEnvironmentEEE+**
>> 0x336)[0x188242]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**
>> libsofficeapp.so(+0x26b7e)[**0x136b7e]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**
>> libsofficeapp.so(+0x1b226)[**0x12b226]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**
>> so(+0x108385)[0x79a4385]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**
>> so(_Z6SVMainv+0x2c)[0x79a451c]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**
>> libsofficeapp.so(soffice_main+**0xd0)[0x1471e0]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/**soffice.bin(main+0x20)[**0x8048d14]
>> /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(_**_libc_start_main+0xe6)[**0x517bd6]
>> /opt/openoffice.org3/program/**soffice.bin[0x8048c61]
>>
>>

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
>> Whoops, sent the files to the Apache development list...
>>
>> Resending...
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>> Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
>> Kay,
>>
>> I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is causing 
>> the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?
>
> I opened up the Photoshop file. This is a bitmap logo. It is anti-aliased 
> from vectors at a particular resolution. When you scale a graphic like that 
> you get interesting effects that can include lower resolution.
>
> Do you have a vector version?
>

It looks like the globe with wings was from a PNG.  Whether or not
there is a vector source for that is unknown.  If we decide to stick
with this logo it may be worth recreating it in vector form.


> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>> Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
>> keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
>> ok?
>>
>> Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we would 
>> either ".png" or open ".jpg".
>>
>> Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that as 
>> well.
>>
>> Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
>> 
>>
>>
>> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
>> Design and Software Courses
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kay Schenk 
>> *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
>> 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
>>
>> in the Wiki...
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo > > wrote:
>>
>> Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
>>
>> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
>> have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
>> find
>> them in
>> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
>>
>>
>>
>> Scroll down to sub header #5...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -- Best, Michael
>>
>>
>> SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
>>
>> Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
>> losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
>> don't feel confident about this.
>>
>> If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
>> page:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
>>
>> add another attachment and let us know. --
>> 
>>
>>
>> MzK
>>
>> "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
>> and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 
>> MzK
>>
>> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>>                                    -- Robert Heinlein
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>> 
>

Re: [WWW] REVISED new logo in production

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> Thanks to all for responding to the earlier call for help with the new logo,
> and especially to Michael Acevedo for providing a new un-blurred version to
> us!
>

Cool!

Do we want the same logo on the podling site as well?

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

> As to why the other revised one came out like it did, well, when an amateur
> crops and resizes a jpg, this is what happens ... :]
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>                                    -- Robert Heinlein

Re: [WWW] REVISED new logo in production

Glad it worked for you guys!

I see that the website has been updated with the new logo.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Dave Fisher wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all for responding to the earlier call for help with the new
> logo, and especially to Michael Acevedo for providing a new un-blurred
> version to us!
>
> Wonderful! There sure was a flurry of activity!
>
> >
> > As to why the other revised one came out like it did, well, when an
> amateur crops and resizes a jpg, this is what happens ... :]
>
> Ah yes, resizing, let me introduce you to artifacts.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > --
> > 
> > MzK
> >
> > "Women and cats will do as they please,
> > and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> >-- Robert Heinlein
>
>

-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WWW] REVISED new logo in production

Hi Kay,

On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> Thanks to all for responding to the earlier call for help with the new logo, 
> and especially to Michael Acevedo for providing a new un-blurred version to 
> us!

Wonderful! There sure was a flurry of activity!

> 
> As to why the other revised one came out like it did, well, when an amateur 
> crops and resizes a jpg, this is what happens ... :]

Ah yes, resizing, let me introduce you to artifacts.

Regards,
Dave

> -- 
> 
> MzK
> 
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
> and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>-- Robert Heinlein

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Hi Michael,

On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:

> Whoops, sent the files to the Apache development list...
> 
> Resending...
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> Kay,
> 
> I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is causing 
> the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?

I opened up the Photoshop file. This is a bitmap logo. It is anti-aliased from 
vectors at a particular resolution. When you scale a graphic like that you get 
interesting effects that can include lower resolution.

Do you have a vector version?

Regards,
Dave



> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
> Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
> keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
> ok?
> 
> Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we would 
> either ".png" or open ".jpg".
> 
> Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that as 
> well.
> 
> Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> 
> 
> 
> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> Design and Software Courses
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Kay Schenk 
> *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
> 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
> 
> in the Wiki...
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
> 
> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
> have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
> find
> them in
> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> 
> 
> 
> Scroll down to sub header #5...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- Best, Michael
> 
> 
> SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
> 
> Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
> losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
> don't feel confident about this.
> 
> If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
> page:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> 
> add another attachment and let us know. --
> 
> 
> 
> MzK
> 
> "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
> and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> MzK
> 
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>-- Robert Heinlein
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael
> 
>

[WWW] REVISED new logo in production

Thanks to all for responding to the earlier call for help with the new 
logo, and especially to Michael Acevedo for providing a new un-blurred 
version to us!


As to why the other revised one came out like it did, well, when an 
amateur crops and resizes a jpg, this is what happens ... :]

--

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
-- Robert Heinlein

Re: openoffice cannot be launched after upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4 on Ubuntu?

2012-04-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Andre Fischer wrote:

I have on plea to all of us: if you find any ugly crashes, please flag
them as potential show stopper as soon as possible. Remember, we are
nearing our first release candidate.


I found a few bad crashes (actually application freezes, including: 
inability to open an ODT document saved with an earlier dev snapshot; 
freeze on right-click on a misspelled word) this week with r1303653; but 
the problems disappeared and everything was back to normal stability 
after I removed the .openoffice.org directory. My profile is shared 
among OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 and several beta, dev and self-built 
versions, so people who find repeatable crashes/freezes might want to 
remove the .openoffice.org directory and retry before reporting them as 
bugs.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Here's a slightly bigger version of the logo...

Hope this helps!

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Kay,
>
> I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is causing
> the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
>>> keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
>>> ok?
>>>
>>
>> Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we
>> would either ".png" or open ".jpg".
>>
>> Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that as
>> well.
>>
>> Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
>>
>>> >> 930&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_**source=ldc_affiliate&utm_**
>>> content=655&utm_campaign=**CD1733&bid=655&aid=CD1733&opt=
>>> **>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Video courses on SEO, CMS,
>>
>>> Design and Software Courses
>>>
>>> --**--**
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Kay Schenk 
>>
>>> *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
>>> 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
>>>
>>> in the Wiki...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,

 I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
 have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
 find

>>> them in
>>>
 the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.

 https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals

>>>
>>>

>>>  Scroll down to sub header #5...

 Thanks!

 -- Best, Michael


>>> SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
>>>
>>> Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
>>> losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
>>> don't feel confident about this.
>>>
>>> If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
>>> page:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals
>>>
>>> add another attachment and let us know. --
>>> --**--**
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>  MzK
>>
>>>
>>> "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
>>> and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> --**--**
>> 
>> MzK
>>
>> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>>-- Robert Heinlein
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Kay,

I sent scaled down logos to your email do they help? Also, what is causing
the logo to go down in resolution when it is scaled down?

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

>
>
> On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:
>
>> Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
>> keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
>> ok?
>>
>
> Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we
> would either ".png" or open ".jpg".
>
> Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that as
> well.
>
> Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
>
>> > 930&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_**source=ldc_affiliate&utm_**
>> content=655&utm_campaign=**CD1733&bid=655&aid=CD1733&opt=
>> **>
>>
>>
>>  Video courses on SEO, CMS,
>
>> Design and Software Courses
>>
>> --**--**
>> 
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Kay Schenk 
>
>> *To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
>> 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
>>
>> in the Wiki...
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo > > wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
>>>
>>> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
>>> have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
>>> find
>>>
>> them in
>>
>>> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>  Scroll down to sub header #5...
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -- Best, Michael
>>>
>>>
>> SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...
>>
>> Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
>> losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
>> don't feel confident about this.
>>
>> If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
>> page:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Logo+Proposals
>>
>> add another attachment and let us know. --
>> --**--**
>> 
>>
>>
>>  MzK
>
>>
>> "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
>> and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
>>
>>
>>
> --
> --**--**
> 
> MzK
>
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>-- Robert Heinlein
>



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: 200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...




On 04/05/2012 02:11 PM, Nancy K wrote:

Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to
keep everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that
ok?


Nancy--Well if you attached it, it didn't come through and I think we 
would either ".png" or open ".jpg".


Thanks for your work. I have GIMP and will see what I can do with that 
as well.


Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.





Video courses on SEO, CMS,

Design and Software Courses





*From:* Kay Schenk 

*To:* ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2012
2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available
in the Wiki...

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo mailto:vea1...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,

I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I
have uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can
find

them in

the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals







Scroll down to sub header #5...

Thanks!

-- Best, Michael



SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...

Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without
losing the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I
don't feel confident about this.

If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo
page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

add another attachment and let us know. --




MzK


"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein




--

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
-- Robert Heinlein

Re: [WIKI] Support for multilingual wiki in MediaWiki

2012-04-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 05/04/2012 Claudio Filho wrote:

Now, we can start the production of main pages (en) and its
translations.


Great! And since we are now starting an Italian translation of 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/

how should we manage it?

I think I managed to translate your test page
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Test/it
properly, but I'm unsure on how I should change
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/
to allow translation: will I just need to put
{{OrigLang|QA/TestCases}}
as first row in the original page?

By the way, if I create a new page I see a huge banner pointing to 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Translating which is 
probably outdated now.



But before to continue, i see two points to treat: what
is usable and the license.


In this case, since it's all new stuff, I think we can safely assume 
contributions (and our translation) are under the Apache License.


Regards,
  Andrea.

200x67pxRe: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

2012-04-05 Thread Nancy K

Here is a quick .gif,by just downsizing Michaels .psd . In order to keep 
everything in proportion it comes to 200px by 67 px, - is that ok?

     Nancy      Web Design   
Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
Video courses on SEO, CMS,
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 From: Kay Schenk 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
>
> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I have
> uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can find them in
> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
>
> Scroll down to sub header #5...
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>

SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...

Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without losing
the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I don't feel
confident about this.

If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

add another attachment and let us know.
-- 

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
                                                                    --
Robert Heinlein

Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,
>
> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I have
> uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can find them in
> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
>
> Scroll down to sub header #5...
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>

SUPER! and thanks... OK, again, I am NOT a graphics guru...

Can someone with some graphics skill get this to 200 x 100 without losing
the lovely resolution? I could futz with it, but, well...I don't feel
confident about this.

If you can't do svn then please just go to the existing wiki logo page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

add another attachment and let us know.
-- 

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
--
Robert Heinlein

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Guillaume  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I don't know if it will be usefull or not for somebody,
> but I can propose two files :
>
> http://gf3.myriapyle.net/info/Aoo-branding-WWW.xcf (layered file)
> http://gf3.myriapyle.net/info/Aoo-branding-WWW.png
>
>
>
Well I would love to see what you did here, but I get a "404"...and we
really DO need 200x100 for sizing or else we'll need to chop it.


> The white area is 400x200. (The target size was 200x100, maybe keeping a
> high
> resolution only resized by the CSS can handle the fuzziness problem).
> I've just kept what have been voted, but lowered the word "OpenOffice" as
> required in one of the previous mails.
>
>
> I don't know if it help somebeody as a basis but I tried.
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Guillaume in France
>



-- 

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
--
Robert Heinlein

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

2012-04-05 Thread drew

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 14:50 -0400, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> I sent the updated logos to both Rob and Drew just a few seconds ago...

I thought that there was a request for a 200x100px png so did create one
from this, is there is a need.

Can't work with the psd file directly here but from what I could work
with..took a little detour through GIMP to drop out all white, as the
images I could work with had a little halo around the different elements
- which end up as bitmaps here..anyway did that, then scaled it's a bit
cleaner I think then again maybe not, set the correct canvas size and
added back a white background.

So wasn't sure - included Kay on this email and attaching the 200x100
png - if it isn't needed currently just disregard..OK

//drew

> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Nancy,
> > >
> > > The source file is in .psd. Would Apache want those as well?
> >
> > Yes, please!  And thank you!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Nancy K wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we
> > can
> > >> all access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness -
> > >> and make further changes.
> > >>
> > >> I found the .psd and .ai feather file under apache.org/images
> > >> http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later in any
> > >> redesign.  Is there a /image
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image
> > >> file name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width -
> > something
> > >> like nameOfImage100px.jpg.
> > >>
> > >> I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder
> > >> for logos - good organization!
> > >> Nancy
> > >>
> > >> Nancy  Web Design
> > >> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> > >> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> > >> Design and Software Courses
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> From: Michael Acevedo >
> > >> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org " <
> > >> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >
> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic
> > >> modification
> > >>
> > >> Hello all members,
> > >>
> > >> It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
> > >> right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where
> > should I
> > >> send them?
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo
> > for
> > >> OpenOffice.
> > >>
> > >> Please let me know.
> > >>
> > >> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > >>>
> >  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
> >  guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> > >>> enhanced
> > > the
> > > natural readability of the logo.
> > > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
> >  position
> > > would
> > > be great).
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to
> > >> get a
> > > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
> > >>> because
> > > of the
> > > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
> >  quality
> > > of
> > > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> > >
> > >
> >  +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> > >>> example
> >  rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it
> > >> to
> >  other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> > >>> logo
> >  will work.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > > Kay et al.
> > > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
> >  tweak
> > > to
> > > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted
> > >> and
> > > approved
> > > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
> >  towards
> > > production consumption.
> > > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
> >  (Kevin
> > > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > >  > >>>
> > >
> > > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not

Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

2012-04-05 Thread Claudio Filho

Hi

2012/4/5 Michael Acevedo :
> I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I have
> uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can find them in
> the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.

As Marcus said, really is a very nice work. Congratulation, Michael.

Following this work, do you think in revise all elements for a visual
identity for us?

Best,
Claudio

Re: Draft "Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice"

2012-04-05 Thread Jean Weber

On 04/04/2012, at 17:54, Jean Weber  wrote:

> I have uploaded to the ODFAuthors website the draft chapters for
> "Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice". They need review, especially
> the Preface and Chapter 11, which have questions (as comments) in the
> files.
> 
> http://www.odfauthors.org/apache-openoffice/english/user-guides/getting-started-3.4/drafts
> 
> I have set the files to be visible to everyone, so you do *not* need
> to log in to the website in order to download the files. However,
> should you wish to upload edited files, you will need to have an
> account and to be logged in. Or you can email edited files directly to
> me and I'll upload them. You can also send comments and information in
> an email to one of these lists.
> 
> These files are a first draft. Some of the illustrations are of poor
> quality, and I am sure there are all sorts of small (or even large)
> errors that I have missed in my own review.
> 
> These files are *not* under the Apache license, nor will they be put
> under the Apache license. They are under the same licenses as all of
> the ODFAuthors books: Creative Commons Attribution License, version
> 3.0 (CC-BY) or General Public License, version 3.
> 
> --Jean

Late yesterday I discovered that I had uploaded an obsolete set of files, at 
least one of which was unedited for AOO. I replaced them with the latest 
iteration. Apologies to anyone who may have taken copies of the wrong files and 
wondered if I'd lost the plot. ;-)

Jean

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

2012-04-05 Thread Guy Waterval

Hi all,

2012/4/5 Jim Jagielski 

>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> > Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who
> might
> > have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
> > part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.
> >
>
> Yeppers... I seem to recall someone not on the PPMC saying that he
> rec'd queries from reporters about AOOo. I'm sure he's been relaying
> them to the right people here. Not doing so would be simply irresponsible.
>

 Why not to propose an official presentation of the project in different
languages, that people could publish for instance in the newsletter of
their Company, golf club, school, association or other (with a link to the
official web version). Of course such an article would not appear as a
marketting message but a pure information describing to people in an
accessible language to all, the philsophy of the Apache foundation, what is
the AOO project, what it can bring them in their daily activities. I think
that could be an interesting way to take the control of the communication
around the project and spread the word to the basis of the users. Moreover,
these publishing areas are free of charge, and their redactors are often
happy to find articles to publish.
Only an idea.

A+
-- 
gw

Re: [WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

2012-04-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Thanks for your contribution. This size should be indeed big enough for 
any further icon/logo modifications.


I really like this clean and lean graphic. Very similar to the past logo 
(this is what the users knows) but with the needed additions that Apache 
is requesting.


Thanks

Marcus



Am 04/05/2012 09:37 PM, schrieb Michael Acevedo:

Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,

I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I have
uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can find them in
the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

Scroll down to sub header #5...

Thanks!

Re: How to report a build breaker in BZ?


On 04/05/12 14:20, Herbert Duerr wrote:

Hi Pedro,
[...]

You are warned that it's really ugly. The bug is
in VCL or in STLport but we workaround it in
Graphite:

http://s.apache.org/HPl


Have you tried if it works when you build with this patch?



Hmm.. I think so but I don't use graphite fonts.

If it does then maybe a define to "enable unicode support" for your 
system STL is missing somewhere (e.g. _GLIBCXX_USE_WCHAR_T?). I'm 
sorry I can't help more as I don't have such a system and I'll be away 
for a few days (first the holidays then a bit in the hospital...)




Ahh... that's the issue. The BSDs don't use glibc (and never will).

I will have to look at the STL issues later on. I actually wanted to update
STLport but I may just try fix things enough to disable it. It's a huge
can of worms only second to ICU ;).

It's not an urgent matter though, Maho's patch seems to do it's
homework for the time being.

Pedro.

[WWW] New AOO logo source files now available in the Wiki...

Hello Apache OpenOffice Community Members,

I would like to let you know that as requested by the community, I have
uploaded the Apache OpenOffice new logo into the Wiki. You can find them in
the attachment section of the "Logo Proposals" page.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

Scroll down to sub header #5...

Thanks!

-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: How to report a build breaker in BZ?

2012-04-05 Thread Herbert Duerr


Hi Pedro,


[...]

Do you happen to have a link to the diff?


You are warned that it's really ugly. The bug is
in VCL or in STLport but we workaround it in
Graphite:

http://s.apache.org/HPl


Have you tried if it works when you build with this patch?

If it does then maybe a define to "enable unicode support" for your 
system STL is missing somewhere (e.g. _GLIBCXX_USE_WCHAR_T?). I'm sorry 
I can't help more as I don't have such a system and I'll be away for a 
few days (first the holidays then a bit in the hospital...)



[...]

I'd put it into GSL, because GSL ("graphics system layer")
libraries are involved.


Thanks! It is not clear to the new guys (like me) so
some polishing from our bugzilla experts is welcome.


Well the problem was that there is a big asymmetry in bugzilla: creating 
a new category was easy, removing it once issues have been filed against 
it is a lot of work.


This is even more so with version numbers. The ability to deprecate old 
version will that will be possible once our bugzilla is upgraded will 
help a bit to relieve the asymmetrie.


If we started all anew then having categories for just each app and for 
framework, localizations, platform support, SDK and external-deps should 
have sufficed.


Herbert

Re: [WWW] Tutorial to put online

2012-04-05 Thread FR web forum


>Would you like help with either of these?
No, it will be fine.

>Sorry if this is different from your preferred method. 
>I will think about how we can accommodate use of editors 
>like BlueGriffon with the Apache CMS.
Don't worry, I can adapt.

Regards

Re: [WWW] Tutorial to put online

Hi -

On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:40 AM, FR web forum wrote:

>> What type of file are you wanting to upload and where do 
>> you want to put it in the tree?
> PDF, ODF and perhaps ZIP files. 
> Put in Documentation directory with other tutorials.

(A) You should be able to add these files to the svn using your client program.

or 

(B) Personally I work from the command line with a checked out copy of the web 
trunk. In that mode - 
- copy the files to the directory.
- svn add the files.
- svn commit the changes.

Would you like help with either of these?

> 
>> Mine regards the way you are using index.xhtml to bypass index.html 
>> to translate the navigation. You are working against the site design.
> Sorry, I don't want it. 
> I use BlueGriffon editor and xhtml is its default extension. 
> I will fix it ASAP.

Are you editing directly from the page on the website? If so, I can see the 
trouble, and more coming. This may not be a viable way to edit. Let me explain.

The html source in the ooo-site repository is html from the legacy project. It 
is content without the Apache project's banner and navigation. To properly edit 
the site you must either:

(1) Use the Apache CMS Bookmarklet.

or

(2) Checkout a local copy of the ooo-site svn and work locally.

Sorry if this is different from your preferred method. I will think about how 
we can accommodate use of editors like BlueGriffon with the Apache CMS.

> 
>> Here is what you would do to effect all of the FR site at once for 
>> translated branding and navigation buttons:
> Very much thanks for your detailled explanations.
> I'll follow it for make conform our webpages to your standards.

Thanks. I am happy. I have been waiting for someone to use it.

Regards,
Dave

>

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

Dave,

I sent the updated logos to both Rob and Drew just a few seconds ago...


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
> > Hi Nancy,
> >
> > The source file is in .psd. Would Apache want those as well?
>
> Yes, please!  And thank you!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> > On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Nancy K wrote:
> >
> >> Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we
> can
> >> all access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness -
> >> and make further changes.
> >>
> >> I found the .psd and .ai feather file under apache.org/images
> >> http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later in any
> >> redesign.  Is there a /image
> >>
> >> It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image
> >> file name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width -
> something
> >> like nameOfImage100px.jpg.
> >>
> >> I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder
> >> for logos - good organization!
> >> Nancy
> >>
> >> Nancy  Web Design
> >> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> >> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> >> Design and Software Courses
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Michael Acevedo >
> >> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org " <
> >> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic
> >> modification
> >>
> >> Hello all members,
> >>
> >> It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
> >> right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where
> should I
> >> send them?
> >>
> >> Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo
> for
> >> OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> Please let me know.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
>  guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> >
> >
> > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> >>> enhanced
> > the
> > natural readability of the logo.
> > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
>  position
> > would
> > be great).
> >
> >
> > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to
> >> get a
> > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
> >>> because
> > of the
> > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
>  quality
> > of
> > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> >
> >
>  +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> >>> example
>  rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it
> >> to
>  other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> >>> logo
>  will work.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Guillaume
> > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > Kay et al.
> > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
>  tweak
> > to
> > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted
> >> and
> > approved
> > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
>  towards
> > production consumption.
> > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
>  (Kevin
> > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> >  >>>
> >
> > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to
> >> us
> > non-artists :) though.
> > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example
> >> the
> >>> i
> > and c
> > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > Regards, Andre
> > I'll need to access the source files.
> > Regards, Kevin
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
> >>> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already
> >> has
> >>> a
> > source
> > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
>  part
> > of
> > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
> >>> image
> > and
> > wou
>

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

2012-04-05 Thread Guillaume

Hi all,


I don't know if it will be usefull or not for somebody,
but I can propose two files :

http://gf3.myriapyle.net/info/Aoo-branding-WWW.xcf (layered file)
http://gf3.myriapyle.net/info/Aoo-branding-WWW.png


The white area is 400x200. (The target size was 200x100, maybe keeping a high
resolution only resized by the CSS can handle the fuzziness problem).
I've just kept what have been voted, but lowered the word "OpenOffice" as
required in one of the previous mails.


I don't know if it help somebeody as a basis but I tried.


Best regards


Guillaume in France

Re: [WWW] Tutorial to put online

2012-04-05 Thread FR web forum

>What type of file are you wanting to upload and where do 
>you want to put it in the tree?
PDF, ODF and perhaps ZIP files. 
Put in Documentation directory with other tutorials.

>Mine regards the way you are using index.xhtml to bypass index.html 
>to translate the navigation. You are working against the site design.
Sorry, I don't want it. 
I use BlueGriffon editor and xhtml is its default extension. 
I will fix it ASAP.

>Here is what you would do to effect all of the FR site at once for 
>translated branding and navigation buttons:
Very much thanks for your detailled explanations.
I'll follow it for make conform our webpages to your standards.

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

Hello,

The logo has been updated to a higher resolution... I will be sending it to
Rob and Drew shortly.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
> > Hi Nancy,
> >
> > The source file is in .psd. Would Apache want those as well?
>
> Yes, please!  And thank you!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> > On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Nancy K wrote:
> >
> >> Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we
> can
> >> all access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness -
> >> and make further changes.
> >>
> >> I found the .psd and .ai feather file under apache.org/images
> >> http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later in any
> >> redesign.  Is there a /image
> >>
> >> It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image
> >> file name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width -
> something
> >> like nameOfImage100px.jpg.
> >>
> >> I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder
> >> for logos - good organization!
> >> Nancy
> >>
> >> Nancy  Web Design
> >> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> >> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> >> Design and Software Courses
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Michael Acevedo >
> >> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org " <
> >> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic
> >> modification
> >>
> >> Hello all members,
> >>
> >> It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
> >> right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where
> should I
> >> send them?
> >>
> >> Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo
> for
> >> OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> Please let me know.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >>>
>  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
>  guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> >
> >
> > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> >>> enhanced
> > the
> > natural readability of the logo.
> > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
>  position
> > would
> > be great).
> >
> >
> > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to
> >> get a
> > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
> >>> because
> > of the
> > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
>  quality
> > of
> > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> >
> >
>  +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> >>> example
>  rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it
> >> to
>  other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> >>> logo
>  will work.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Guillaume
> > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > Kay et al.
> > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
>  tweak
> > to
> > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted
> >> and
> > approved
> > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
>  towards
> > production consumption.
> > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
>  (Kevin
> > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> >  >>>
> >
> > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to
> >> us
> > non-artists :) though.
> > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example
> >> the
> >>> i
> > and c
> > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > Regards, Andre
> > I'll need to access the source files.
> > Regards, Kevin
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
> >>> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already
> >> has
> >>> a
> > source
> > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
>  part
> > of
> > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
> >>> image

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification


On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote:

> Hi Nancy,
> 
> The source file is in .psd. Would Apache want those as well?

Yes, please!  And thank you!

Regards,
Dave

> 
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Nancy K wrote:
> 
>> Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we can
>> all access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness -
>> and make further changes.
>> 
>> I found the .psd and .ai feather file under apache.org/images
>> http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later in any
>> redesign.  Is there a /image
>> 
>> It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image
>> file name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width - something
>> like nameOfImage100px.jpg.
>> 
>> I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder
>> for logos - good organization!
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy  Web Design
>> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
>> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
>> Design and Software Courses
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Michael Acevedo >
>> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org " <
>> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >
>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic
>> modification
>> 
>> Hello all members,
>> 
>> It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
>> right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where should I
>> send them?
>> 
>> Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo for
>> OpenOffice.
>> 
>> Please let me know.
>> 
>> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
 guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> 
> 
> 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
>>> enhanced
> the
> natural readability of the logo.
> The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
 position
> would
> be great).
> 
> 
> 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to
>> get a
> professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
>>> because
> of the
> JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
 quality
> of
> the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> 
> 
 +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
>>> example
 rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it
>> to
 other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
>>> logo
 will work.
 
 
> 
> 
> Guillaume
> (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> Kay et al.
> I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
 tweak
> to
> the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted
>> and
> approved
> concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
 towards
> production consumption.
> See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
 (Kevin
> Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> >> 
> 
> I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to
>> us
> non-artists :) though.
> The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example
>> the
>>> i
> and c
> in Office seem to almost touch.
> Regards, Andre
> I'll need to access the source files.
> Regards, Kevin
> 
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
>>> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already
>> has
>>> a
> source
> file handy - xcf, svg.
> If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
 part
> of
> the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
>>> image
> and
> wou
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael

Re: OOB incubator report re patch release


On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Considering that this report is being reviewed now. The sooner, the better.
>> 
>> 
> Draft is here:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2012

You could note the co-operation with the rest of the OOo ecosystem including 
LO, et al. Maybe ;-)

Regards,
Dave


> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> 
>>> Pretty much what I was thinking Rob.
>>> Can you take the lead on this please?
>>> I'll be happy to look it over on the wiki
>>> and edit/approve as needed.
>>> 
>>> Thx.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 From: Rob Weir 
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:02 PM
 Subject: Re: OOB incubator report re patch release
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joe Schaefer >> wrote:
 
> Often times you will see TLP's issue
> an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
> board of any exceptional events in the project.
> 
> I'd like to suggest that we do something
> similar here regarding the "patch release"
> we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
> circumstance in many respects.  The report
> need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
> up telling people about the particulars would
> be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
 How would we do this?  Add it to the IPMC wiki along with the other
>> reports
 that are due this month, and have the IPMC forward that along with their
 other reports?
 
 -Rob
 
 
> Thoughts?
> 
 
 
>> 
>>

Re: How to report a build breaker in BZ?


Hi Herbert;

--- Gio 5/4/12, Herbert Duerr  ha scritto:

> 
> This looks like the compiler provided STL not STLport.
> 
We are using STLport: the build just doesn't work
disabling STLport.

> Mixing these two template libraries is not a good idea, e.g.
> when using the system silgraphite with system STL and the
> internal AOO libs with the in-tree STLport. I guess it will
> work better if you don't run configure
> -with-system-graphite, but only with --enable-graphite. Then
> AOO will build graphite with the same STL template library
> it is using itself.
>

We did that a while ago but it still causes breakage.
 
> > Maho-san has a workaround in the BSD port that is not
> acceptable for
> > the codebase [...]
> 
> Do you happen to have a link to the diff?
>

You are warned that it's really ugly. The bug is
in VCL or in STLport but we workaround it in
Graphite:

http://s.apache.org/HPl


> > [...]
> > Unfortunately, despite the BZ cleanup, it is still not
> clear to me on which
> > category this should be filed in! It is not
> installation error, nor ucb
> > or sdk
> > or wp (that category probably doesn't belong in our bz
> anymore), how
> > should it be classified, a new category perhaps?
> 
> I'd put it into GSL, because GSL ("graphics system layer")
> libraries are involved.
> 

Thanks! It is not clear to the new guys (like me) so
some polishing from our bugzilla experts is welcome.

I will open a new issue and I will upload the build log.

cheers,

Pedro.

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

Hi Nancy,

The source file is in .psd. Would Apache want those as well?

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Nancy K wrote:

> Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we can
> all access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness -
> and make further changes.
>
> I found the .psd and .ai feather file under apache.org/images
> http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later in any
> redesign.  Is there a /image
>
> It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image
> file name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width - something
> like nameOfImage100px.jpg.
>
> I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder
> for logos - good organization!
>  Nancy
>
>  Nancy  Web Design
> Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
> Video courses on SEO, CMS,
> Design and Software Courses
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Michael Acevedo >
> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org " <
> ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >
> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic
> modification
>
> Hello all members,
>
> It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
> right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where should I
> send them?
>
> Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo for
> OpenOffice.
>
> Please let me know.
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
> > > guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> > enhanced
> > > > the
> > > > natural readability of the logo.
> > > > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
> > > position
> > > > would
> > > > be great).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to
> get a
> > > > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
> >  because
> > > > of the
> > > > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
> > > quality
> > > > of
> > > > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> > example
> > > rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it
> to
> > > other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> > logo
> > > will work.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guillaume
> > > > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > > > Kay et al.
> > > > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > > > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
> > > tweak
> > > > to
> > > > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted
> and
> > > > approved
> > > > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
> > > towards
> > > > production consumption.
> > > > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
> > > (Kevin
> > > > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > > >  >
> > > >
> > > > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > > > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to
> us
> > > > non-artists :) though.
> > > > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example
> the
> > i
> > > > and c
> > > > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > > > Regards, Andre
> > > > I'll need to access the source files.
> > > > Regards, Kevin
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
> > wrote:
> > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > > > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already
> has
> > a
> > > > source
> > > > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > > > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
> > > part
> > > > of
> > > > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
> > image
> > > > and
> > > > wou



-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WWW] help with new logo editing...

2012-04-05 Thread drew

On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 13:52 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am currently looking at the logo in the website, definitively looks low
> > res I will have to go to the original file and bump the resolution by a
> > factor of 2X to see if that helps.
> >
> > Please let me know where I should drop the new higher resolution logo. I'll
> > be working on it tonight.
> >
> >
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Can you upload the source files as well, hopefully SVG format?
> 
> You could send these to me directly, or add to a Bugzilla issue as an
> attachment.  You might be able to attach the source to a wiki page, but I
> am not sure of that.

Howdy Michael and all,

Yes, in the confluence system you just add an svg file as an attachment,
the markeup will not display it in line, but you can reference on a wiki
page as url link no problem.

Same for the mediawiki, though mediawiki will try to display SVG
directly. (try because not all SVG files are created equal :-/ )

Best wishes,

//drew


> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
> 
> > On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >
> > > There has been some further discussion concerning the new logo posted as:
> > >
> > > http://markmail.org/message/lokfrxotna5ayw6s
> > >
> > > We could really use some help with cleaning up the new logo with respect
> > to
> > > kerning, etc.
> > >
> > > At this point, given that the logo in use has already been approved by
> > the
> > > community, my feeling is that only size and kerning changes should be
> > made.
> > > Other modifications are discussion for another point in time, I think.
> > >
> > >
> > > Some basic specs for the web page header (this may not be applicable to
> > > general logao use) would be as follows:
> > >
> > > * size 200px x 100px
> > > * because the logo with align middle with text following, the bottm of
> > the
> > > "orb" should be lower than what it is now in the image to align the text
> > in
> > > the image "OpenOffice" with the text next to it.
> > > * make text larger if possible
> > >
> > > Kevin Grignon has volunteered to help.
> > >
> > > Anyone else is of course welcome to contribute.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > > MzK
> > >
> > > "Women and cats will do as they please,
> > >  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> > >--
> > > Robert Heinlein
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
> >

Re: How to report a build breaker in BZ?

2012-04-05 Thread Herbert Duerr


On 04/05/2012 07:12 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

There is a build breaker on FreeBSD when building vcl with silgraphite.
It's something related to STLport ...
___
...
[ build DEP ] LNK:Library/libvcl.so
[ build CXX ] vcl/source/glyphs/glyphcache
In file included from /usr/include/c++/4.2/memory:53,


This looks like the compiler provided STL not STLport.

Mixing these two template libraries is not a good idea, e.g. when using 
the system silgraphite with system STL and the internal AOO libs with 
the in-tree STLport. I guess it will work better if you don't run 
configure -with-system-graphite, but only with --enable-graphite. Then 
AOO will build graphite with the same STL template library it is using 
itself.



Maho-san has a workaround in the BSD port that is not acceptable for
the codebase [...]


Do you happen to have a link to the diff?


[...]
Unfortunately, despite the BZ cleanup, it is still not clear to me on which
category this should be filed in! It is not installation error, nor ucb
or sdk
or wp (that category probably doesn't belong in our bz anymore), how
should it be classified, a new category perhaps?


I'd put it into GSL, because GSL ("graphics system layer") libraries are 
involved.


Herbert

Re: [WWW] help with new logo editing...

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Michael Acevedo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am currently looking at the logo in the website, definitively looks low
> res I will have to go to the original file and bump the resolution by a
> factor of 2X to see if that helps.
>
> Please let me know where I should drop the new higher resolution logo. I'll
> be working on it tonight.
>
>
Hi Michael,

Can you upload the source files as well, hopefully SVG format?

You could send these to me directly, or add to a Bugzilla issue as an
attachment.  You might be able to attach the source to a wiki page, but I
am not sure of that.

Thanks!

-Rob



> On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> > There has been some further discussion concerning the new logo posted as:
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/lokfrxotna5ayw6s
> >
> > We could really use some help with cleaning up the new logo with respect
> to
> > kerning, etc.
> >
> > At this point, given that the logo in use has already been approved by
> the
> > community, my feeling is that only size and kerning changes should be
> made.
> > Other modifications are discussion for another point in time, I think.
> >
> >
> > Some basic specs for the web page header (this may not be applicable to
> > general logao use) would be as follows:
> >
> > * size 200px x 100px
> > * because the logo with align middle with text following, the bottm of
> the
> > "orb" should be lower than what it is now in the image to align the text
> in
> > the image "OpenOffice" with the text next to it.
> > * make text larger if possible
> >
> > Kevin Grignon has volunteered to help.
> >
> > Anyone else is of course welcome to contribute.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> 
> > MzK
> >
> > "Women and cats will do as they please,
> >  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
> >--
> > Robert Heinlein
> >
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
>

Re: [WWW] help with new logo editing...

Hi,

I am currently looking at the logo in the website, definitively looks low
res I will have to go to the original file and bump the resolution by a
factor of 2X to see if that helps.

Please let me know where I should drop the new higher resolution logo. I'll
be working on it tonight.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:

> There has been some further discussion concerning the new logo posted as:
>
> http://markmail.org/message/lokfrxotna5ayw6s
>
> We could really use some help with cleaning up the new logo with respect to
> kerning, etc.
>
> At this point, given that the logo in use has already been approved by the
> community, my feeling is that only size and kerning changes should be made.
> Other modifications are discussion for another point in time, I think.
>
>
> Some basic specs for the web page header (this may not be applicable to
> general logao use) would be as follows:
>
> * size 200px x 100px
> * because the logo with align middle with text following, the bottm of the
> "orb" should be lower than what it is now in the image to align the text in
> the image "OpenOffice" with the text next to it.
> * make text larger if possible
>
> Kevin Grignon has volunteered to help.
>
> Anyone else is of course welcome to contribute.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 
> MzK
>
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>--
> Robert Heinlein
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

2012-04-05 Thread Nancy K

Wonderful! If Michael has the .psd or .ai vector original file, and we can all 
access it later, that will help us resize it without the fuzziness - and make 
further changes. 

I found the .psd and .ai feather file under 
apache.org/images http://www.apache.org/images/ if that will be helpful later 
in any redesign.  Is there a /image

It would be nice to add a dimension to the .jpg/.gif/.non-vector image file 
name instead of 'small' 'wide' - I would suggest a width - something like 
nameOfImage100px.jpg.

I am new - but noticed openoffice.org/images file and a cujrent folder for 
logos - good organization!
 Nancy
 
     Nancy      Web Design   
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 From: Michael Acevedo 
To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org"  
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic 
modification
 
Hello all members,

It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where should I
send them?

Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo for
OpenOffice.

Please let me know.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
> > guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> enhanced
> > > the
> > > natural readability of the logo.
> > > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
> > position
> > > would
> > > be great).
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to get a
> > > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
>  because
> > > of the
> > > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
> > quality
> > > of
> > > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> > >
> > >
> > +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> example
> > rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it to
> > other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> logo
> > will work.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > > Kay et al.
> > > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
> > tweak
> > > to
> > > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted and
> > > approved
> > > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
> > towards
> > > production consumption.
> > > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
> > (Kevin
> > > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > > 
> > >
> > > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to us
> > > non-artists :) though.
> > > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example the
> i
> > > and c
> > > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > > Regards, Andre
> > > I'll need to access the source files.
> > > Regards, Kevin
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
> wrote:
> > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already has
> a
> > > source
> > > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
> > part
> > > of
> > > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
> image
> > > and
> > > would be more then willing to do that, and recreate a likeness of the
> orb
> > > logo
> > > design all vector based and a jpg from that.
> > > I could likely have that here pretty quickly - it would be polite
> though
> > to
> > > email Michael first however, I suppose.
> > > so - added him on CC to the mail here
> > > Howdy Michael,
> > > Good instincts on your proposal.. wondering if you have any source type
> > > fies for
> > > the jpg file posted t the wiki?
> > > //drew
> > >
> > > OK, maybe I was a bit confusing, and I hope this elaboration helps.
> > > What I think would be ideal is for someone to take the "cropped" image
> > >
> > >
> > > I
> > > did that is in svn at--
> > >
> > >
> > It seems Kevin does indeed have the skills to deal with this, and no
> argument from me on any of these comments I would definitely be in favor of
> him re-doing what

[WWW] help with new logo editing...

There has been some further discussion concerning the new logo posted as:

http://markmail.org/message/lokfrxotna5ayw6s

We could really use some help with cleaning up the new logo with respect to
kerning, etc.

At this point, given that the logo in use has already been approved by the
community, my feeling is that only size and kerning changes should be made.
Other modifications are discussion for another point in time, I think.


Some basic specs for the web page header (this may not be applicable to
general logao use) would be as follows:

* size 200px x 100px
* because the logo with align middle with text following, the bottm of the
"orb" should be lower than what it is now in the image to align the text in
the image "OpenOffice" with the text next to it.
* make text larger if possible

Kevin Grignon has volunteered to help.

Anyone else is of course welcome to contribute.




-- 

MzK

"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
--
Robert Heinlein

Re: OOB incubator report re patch release

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Considering that this report is being reviewed now. The sooner, the better.
>
>
Draft is here:

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2012

-Rob


> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> > Pretty much what I was thinking Rob.
> > Can you take the lead on this please?
> > I'll be happy to look it over on the wiki
> > and edit/approve as needed.
> >
> > Thx.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> From: Rob Weir 
> >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:02 PM
> >> Subject: Re: OOB incubator report re patch release
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joe Schaefer  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Often times you will see TLP's issue
> >>> an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
> >>> board of any exceptional events in the project.
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to suggest that we do something
> >>> similar here regarding the "patch release"
> >>> we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
> >>> circumstance in many respects.  The report
> >>> need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
> >>> up telling people about the particulars would
> >>> be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> How would we do this?  Add it to the IPMC wiki along with the other
> reports
> >> that are due this month, and have the IPMC forward that along with their
> >> other reports?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

Hello all members,

It's Michael Acevedo, I am away from the computer that holds the files
right now but I do have the original files if you need them. Where should I
send them?

Otherwise, I am deeply honored by having Apache selecting the my logo for
OpenOffice.

Please let me know.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
> > guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has
> enhanced
> > > the
> > > natural readability of the logo.
> > > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
> > position
> > > would
> > > be great).
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to get a
> > > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.
>  because
> > > of the
> > > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
> > quality
> > > of
> > > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> > >
> > >
> > +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an
> example
> > rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it to
> > other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the
> logo
> > will work.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > > Kay et al.
> > > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
> > tweak
> > > to
> > > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted and
> > > approved
> > > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
> > towards
> > > production consumption.
> > > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
> > (Kevin
> > > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > > 
> > >
> > > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to us
> > > non-artists :) though.
> > > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example the
> i
> > > and c
> > > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > > Regards, Andre
> > > I'll need to access the source files.
> > > Regards, Kevin
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher
> wrote:
> > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already has
> a
> > > source
> > > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
> > part
> > > of
> > > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png
> image
> > > and
> > > would be more then willing to do that, and recreate a likeness of the
> orb
> > > logo
> > > design all vector based and a jpg from that.
> > > I could likely have that here pretty quickly - it would be polite
> though
> > to
> > > email Michael first however, I suppose.
> > > so - added him on CC to the mail here
> > > Howdy Michael,
> > > Good instincts on your proposal.. wondering if you have any source type
> > > fies for
> > > the jpg file posted t the wiki?
> > > //drew
> > >
> > > OK, maybe I was a bit confusing, and I hope this elaboration helps.
> > > What I think would be ideal is for someone to take the "cropped" image
> > >
> > >
> > > I
> > > did that is in svn at--
> > >
> > >
> > It seems Kevin does indeed have the skills to deal with this, and no
> argument from me on any of these comments I would definitely be in favor of
> him re-doing what we've got in terms of approved content. I personally do
> NOT like the gray Apache -- it just seems too light to me, and yes, I
> question the capitalization.
>
> This being said...we would certainly welcome help to get corrections made.
>
> I will post specifications in a different thread.
>
> --
>
> 
> MzK
>
> "Women and cats will do as they please,
>  and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
>--
> Robert Heinlein
>


-- 
Best,
Michael

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
> guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > I think that kevin's changes are very important.
> >
> >
> > 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has enhanced
> > the
> > natural readability of the logo.
> > The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate
> position
> > would
> > be great).
> >
> >
> > 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to get a
> > professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.  because
> > of the
> > JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the
> quality
> > of
> > the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
> >
> >
> +1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an example
> rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it to
> other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the logo
> will work.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Guillaume
> > (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
> >
> > Hi Kevin,
> > On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> > Kay et al.
> > I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> > Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small
> tweak
> > to
> > the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted and
> > approved
> > concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move
> towards
> > production consumption.
> > See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept
> (Kevin
> > Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> > 
> >
> > I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> > capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to us
> > non-artists :) though.
> > The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example the i
> > and c
> > in Office seem to almost touch.
> > Regards, Andre
> > I'll need to access the source files.
> > Regards, Kevin
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> > Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already has a
> > source
> > file handy - xcf, svg.
> > If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug
> part
> > of
> > the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png image
> > and
> > would be more then willing to do that, and recreate a likeness of the orb
> > logo
> > design all vector based and a jpg from that.
> > I could likely have that here pretty quickly - it would be polite though
> to
> > email Michael first however, I suppose.
> > so - added him on CC to the mail here
> > Howdy Michael,
> > Good instincts on your proposal.. wondering if you have any source type
> > fies for
> > the jpg file posted t the wiki?
> > //drew
> >
> > OK, maybe I was a bit confusing, and I hope this elaboration helps.
> > What I think would be ideal is for someone to take the "cropped" image
> >
> >
> > I
> > did that is in svn at--
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg
> > <
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg
> > >
> > this is now 217 x 79
> > re-size it "up" to 275 x 100
> > with clear lettering instead of the blurring that happens
> > I have just about NO talent with graphics editing at all.
> > So thanks for any help with this.
> >
> > We'll need the original vectors. I think the correct size will have the
> > Orb be
> > about 70px tall and centered vertically with 15px above, below and left
> of
> > it.
> > If the size is exactly 100 you probably don't need to do anything, but
> you
> > might
> > want to edit css/ooo.css
> > #ooo-logo { height: 100px; padding-top: 4px; padding-left: 8px; }
> >
> > a! light dawns -- maybe. The graphic height is actually 79 -- I
> didn't
> > tract
> > down the css for any of this --but the rendering kept changing it to 100.
> > It
> > looks better alreger actually but then there's teh blrury text.
> > OK, I'll play some more but it may have to wait until tomorrow.
> > You may want to remove the height setting.
> > To adjust the text banner here is the css in css/ooo.css:
> > #bannercenter { padding: 31pt 2pt 14pt 2pt; float: center; color:
> #107EC0;
> > }
> > Play with the padding until pleased. I like to do this in Google Chrome.
> >
> > OK, I'll try again...
> > Regards, Dave
> > I also copied Michael...
> > On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 15:23 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > Folks --
> > The new logo is rendered on the staging web site right now--
> > http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/

How to report a build breaker in BZ?


Hi;

There is a build breaker on FreeBSD when building vcl with silgraphite.
It's something related to STLport ...
___
...
[ build DEP ] LNK:Library/libvcl.so
[ build CXX ] vcl/source/glyphs/glyphcache
In file included from /usr/include/c++/4.2/memory:53,
 from 
/work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/solver/340/unxfbsdx.pro/inc/stl/preextstl.h:48,  
   from 
/work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/vcl/inc/graphite_features.hxx:28,  
   from 
/work/tinderbox-ligeti8amd64/portstrees/FreeBSD/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/work/ooo/main/vcl/source/glyphs/glyphcache.cxx:40:/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:321: 
error: 'ostreambuf_iterator' was not declared in this scope
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:321: error: template argument 2 
is invalid
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:321: error: expected 
unqualified-id before '>' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:326: error: 
'ostreambuf_iterator' was not declared in this scope
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:326: error: template argument 2 
is invalid
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:326: error: expected 
unqualified-id before '>' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: template 
declaration of 'typename 
__gnu_cxx::__enable_if::__value, _CharT*>::__type 
std::__copy_aux'/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: 
'istreambuf_iterator' was not declared in this scope
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: expected 
primary-expression before '>' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: expected 
primary-expression before ',' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: 
'istreambuf_iterator' was not declared in this scope
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: expected 
primary-expression before '>' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:331: error: expected 
primary-expression before ',' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:332: error: expected 
primary-expression before '*' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:332: error: expected 
primary-expression before ')' token
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:407: error: 
'ostreambuf_iterator' was not declared in this scope
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:407: error: template argument 2 
is invalid
/usr/include/c++/4.2/bits/stl_algobase.h:407: error: expected 
unqualified-id before '>' token

 ...


Maho-san has a workaround in the BSD port that is not acceptable for
the codebase so I would like to register it in BZ.  Fixes for the build 
issue

are welcome but I am rather interested in having this type of bugs easier
to report in BZ.

Unfortunately, despite the BZ cleanup, it is still not clear to me on which
category this should be filed in! It is not installation error, nor ucb 
or sdk

or wp (that category probably doesn't belong in our bz anymore), how
should it be classified, a new category perhaps?

cheers,

Pedro.

Pedro.

Re: OOB incubator report re patch release

Considering that this report is being reviewed now. The sooner, the better.

Regards,
Dave

On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Pretty much what I was thinking Rob.
> Can you take the lead on this please?
> I'll be happy to look it over on the wiki
> and edit/approve as needed.
> 
> Thx.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: Rob Weir 
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: OOB incubator report re patch release
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> 
>>> Often times you will see TLP's issue
>>> an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
>>> board of any exceptional events in the project.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to suggest that we do something
>>> similar here regarding the "patch release"
>>> we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
>>> circumstance in many respects.  The report
>>> need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
>>> up telling people about the particulars would
>>> be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> How would we do this?  Add it to the IPMC wiki along with the other reports
>> that are due this month, and have the IPMC forward that along with their
>> other reports?
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>> 
>>

Craching of Writer: Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again. bug 119189

2012-04-05 Thread Torokhov Sergey

Next bug of "Print dialog" cause Writer crash:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119189

Re: OOB incubator report re patch release

2012-04-05 Thread Joe Schaefer

Pretty much what I was thinking Rob.
Can you take the lead on this please?
I'll be happy to look it over on the wiki
and edit/approve as needed.

Thx.




>
> From: Rob Weir 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:02 PM
>Subject: Re: OOB incubator report re patch release
> 
>On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>> Often times you will see TLP's issue
>> an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
>> board of any exceptional events in the project.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that we do something
>> similar here regarding the "patch release"
>> we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
>> circumstance in many respects.  The report
>> need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
>> up telling people about the particulars would
>> be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>How would we do this?  Add it to the IPMC wiki along with the other reports
>that are due this month, and have the IPMC forward that along with their
>other reports?
>
>-Rob
>
>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
>
>

Re: OOB incubator report re patch release

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Often times you will see TLP's issue
> an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
> board of any exceptional events in the project.
>
> I'd like to suggest that we do something
> similar here regarding the "patch release"
> we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
> circumstance in many respects.  The report
> need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
> up telling people about the particulars would
> be appreciated.
>
>
>
How would we do this?  Add it to the IPMC wiki along with the other reports
that are due this month, and have the IPMC forward that along with their
other reports?

-Rob


> Thoughts?
>

Re: LGPL vs Apache 2.0 FAQ?


Ciao Gianluca;

On 04/05/12 03:47, Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Hello *,

is there a page like "LGPL vs Apache 2.0" FAQ for Apache OpenOffice, 
in order to show explicitly to users and distributors what differences 
there are btw those licenses?


Something like "Before you could do that, now you can do the same 
thing (or not)".


It would be very useful, IMO, to avoid misunderstandings.

Regards,

A while ago I added this to the Release Notes:



 License Change

The License has changed from LGPLv3 to the compatible Apache License 2 
to comply with Apache Software Foundation guidelines. The Apache License 
will make adoption and general distribution of the software much easier 
since it doesn't require making available the source code. Of course the 
software continues being free and the source code with its updates will 
continue being available through the Apache Software Foundation servers.




We will obviously not be enforcing the GPL on previous releases, so
maybe we should probably add something in this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/license.html

in that sense.

Pedro.

Re: LGPL vs Apache 2.0 FAQ?

2012-04-05 Thread Donald Whytock

Wikipedia has a list...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licenses

Last modified 21 Feb 2012.  Not sure if it's street-legal, but it's a
starting point.

Don

RE: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

There are -en Writing Aids extensions that tend to bundle the variants in the 
same package.  E.g., there will be en-US, en-GB, en-ZA, and others in the same 
.oxt.

Is this not happening with the AOO Writing Aids?

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Gianluca Turconi [mailto:g...@letturefantastiche.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 00:13
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer  ha  
scritto:

> Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.
>  If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.

The Italian users, who have answered to my question, prefer the light  
solution (Italian + English only).

So you can keep things how they are now.

Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the "en" dictionary has  
not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English  
dictionary only.

Regards,
-- 
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/

Questions about AOO 3.4 performance testing

Hi all,

I saw the performance profiling code APPR in svn but not sure if this tool
is enabled when we do full build. Juergen or anyone else who knows it, can
update me about it? I want to confirm if performance testing is enabled
when we do build.

I am doing manual performance testing for AOO 3.4
r1303653,
comparing with OOo 3.3 to see if some regression issues exist. Though
the
data may not be so stable comparing with automtic testing result, it still
can give us some image about where we are for AOO 3.4 performance.

Best Regards,

Lily

OOB incubator report re patch release

2012-04-05 Thread Joe Schaefer

Often times you will see TLP's issue
an Out-Of-Band report for notifying the
board of any exceptional events in the project.

I'd like to suggest that we do something
similar here regarding the "patch release"
we issued recently which was a rather exceptional
circumstance in many respects.  The report
need not be comprehensive, just a brief heads
up telling people about the particulars would
be appreciated.


Thoughts?

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

Rob,

I agree, that's why I ask how long the vote will continue. Once RC build is
ready, the RC build test will begin, most focus on installation, and some
regression testing.

Lily

2012/4/5 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >  Per the wiki where Lily proposed the RC build test plan, it will take <=
> > 1 week.
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan
> >
> >
>
> OK.  I would recommend that we do not delay the vote for the regression
> test results.  Instead, we should have the voting period be long enough
> that the regression tests will be done before the vote closes.  That way
> IPMC members can do their release verification in parallel with Lily's
> final testing.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > - Simon
> >
> > 2012/4/5 Rob Weir 
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Shenfeng Liu 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Juergen,
> > > >  Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a
> > > regression
> > > > testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the
> > community
> > > > vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE
> > > > perspective, after the build passed her regression test.
> > > >  Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > How long will it take to do a regression test against the RC build?
>  How
> > > many days?
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > - Simon
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/5 xia zhao 
> > > >
> > > > > Juergen,
> > > > >
> > > > > Usually how long the vote will continue?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lily
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> How long shall we wait before we vote?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > We made some changes and we should at least give people the
> chance
> > to
> > > > > take
> > > > > > a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will
> > send a
> > > > > call
> > > > > > for the VOTE on various lists then.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Juergen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt > > > > jogischm...@googlemail.com>
> > > > >  >> >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way
> to
> > > our
> > > > > >>> first
> > > > > >>> release.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an
> > ALv2
> > > > > >>> header.
> > > > > >>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR
> nl
> > > hu
> > > > ru
> > > > > >>> zh-TW fi
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were
> > > > already
> > > > > >>> built for the developer snapshots.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are
> > > > satisfied
> > > > > >>> with
> > > > > >>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as
> our
> > > > first
> > > > > >>> RC.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Juergen
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Serg Bormant

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt :
>
> Which platform do you use?

Windows (XPsp3 x86, 7sp1 x86-64), Linux (x86/x86-64, Slackware/Fedora/Ubuntu)

-- 
wbr, sb

Re: [INFRA] About Testing the SourceForce Mirror of AOO 3.4

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We at SourceForge have worked the last ten days to line-up dedicated
> infrastructure (including CDN services) to support the upcoming AOO
> download serving test.
>
>
Excellent!

> To advance on a test swing of traffic from Apache's existing download
> service over to SourceForge.net, we need a member of the Infra team as
> our point-of-contact for the test and we commit to kickoff of testing
> within 48 hours after we make initial contact.
>
>
What kind of testing are you looking for?

Right now, the main entry point for user downloads are one of these pages:

http://www.openoffice.org/

http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html

http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (redirected from
http://download.openoffice.org)

We (the AOO PMC) control the contents of these pages.  We don't need to
involve Infra to make modifications there.

The pages currently route the download requests to the MirrorBrain network.

If I understand the 3.4 mirror plan correctly, we would have two download
links, probably at the topmost level, which would be www.openoffice.org and
maybe download.openoffice.org.

If you want to prototype something to test this with the legacy 3.3
downloads, that sounds OK with me.  However, I'm not very familiar with the
logic in that page, and how it determines what file to download based on
platform and locale.

Is there someone on the AOO project who understands this logic, and how we
can modify these pages to offer a link to SF for downloads?

Our Site Operations director, Jacob Moorman, has already sent a

> private email with his Apache Infra contacts (from the AOO Extensions
> cutover) asking who will manage the traffic cutover.
>
> We look forward to advancing to the test phase.
>
>
Yes.   If we can test with the 3.3 legacy downloads that will give us some
greater confidence that it will also work with the 3.4 downloads.

-Rob

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Building Guide AOO

2012-04-05 Thread Andre Fischer


Hi all,

I have started a rewrite of the building guide.  My goals where

- make it more understandable for people new to Apache OpenOffice

- remove out-of-date and legacy information, update the rest

- avoid repetition of general concepts (eg autoconf;configure;build) on 
platform specific pages


- flatten the page hierarchy.


You can judge yourself if I was successful:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

At the moment there are no links from other pages to the new guide so 
that we/I can make changes without confusing too many people.



Feel free to make changes to improve the guide.

Or point out the things that you don't understand or miss or that are wrong.


Best regards,
Andre

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Guillaume Fernandez (Club) <
guillm.fr...@club.fr> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
> I think that kevin's changes are very important.
>
>
> 1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has enhanced
> the
> natural readability of the logo.
> The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate position
> would
> be great).
>
>
> 2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to get a
> professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today.  because
> of the
> JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the quality
> of
> the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).
>
>
+1.  When I voted in favor of that logo I assumed that was just an example
rendering and that we had the SVG source for it, so we could scale it to
other sizes.  If we do not have these sources, then I don't think the logo
will work.


>
>
> Guillaume
> (I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).
>
> Hi Kevin,
> On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> Kay et al.
> I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
> Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small tweak
> to
> the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted and
> approved
> concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move towards
> production consumption.
> See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept (Kevin
> Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals
> 
>
> I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
> capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to us
> non-artists :) though.
> The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example the i
> and c
> in Office seem to almost touch.
> Regards, Andre
> I'll need to access the source files.
> Regards, Kevin
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
> Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already has a
> source
> file handy - xcf, svg.
> If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug part
> of
> the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png image
> and
> would be more then willing to do that, and recreate a likeness of the orb
> logo
> design all vector based and a jpg from that.
> I could likely have that here pretty quickly - it would be polite though to
> email Michael first however, I suppose.
> so - added him on CC to the mail here
> Howdy Michael,
> Good instincts on your proposal.. wondering if you have any source type
> fies for
> the jpg file posted t the wiki?
> //drew
>
> OK, maybe I was a bit confusing, and I hope this elaboration helps.
> What I think would be ideal is for someone to take the "cropped" image
>
>
> I
> did that is in svn at--
>
>
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg
> <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg
> >
> this is now 217 x 79
> re-size it "up" to 275 x 100
> with clear lettering instead of the blurring that happens
> I have just about NO talent with graphics editing at all.
> So thanks for any help with this.
>
> We'll need the original vectors. I think the correct size will have the
> Orb be
> about 70px tall and centered vertically with 15px above, below and left of
> it.
> If the size is exactly 100 you probably don't need to do anything, but you
> might
> want to edit css/ooo.css
> #ooo-logo { height: 100px; padding-top: 4px; padding-left: 8px; }
>
> a! light dawns -- maybe. The graphic height is actually 79 -- I didn't
> tract
> down the css for any of this --but the rendering kept changing it to 100.
> It
> looks better alreger actually but then there's teh blrury text.
> OK, I'll play some more but it may have to wait until tomorrow.
> You may want to remove the height setting.
> To adjust the text banner here is the css in css/ooo.css:
> #bannercenter { padding: 31pt 2pt 14pt 2pt; float: center; color: #107EC0;
> }
> Play with the padding until pleased. I like to do this in Google Chrome.
>
> OK, I'll try again...
> Regards, Dave
> I also copied Michael...
> On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 15:23 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> Folks --
> The new logo is rendered on the staging web site right now--
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ 
> It will not go into the production site, www.openoffice.org until someone
> does a
> "publish" which I have not yet done. I'm not happy with the size or
> positioning
> of the new logo.
> I rendered an alternate version of it -- cropped -- in
>
>
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cro

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

2012-04-05 Thread Jim Jagielski

On Apr 5, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> 
> Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who might
> have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
> part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.
> 

Yeppers... I seem to recall someone not on the PPMC saying that he
rec'd queries from reporters about AOOo. I'm sure he's been relaying
them to the right people here. Not doing so would be simply irresponsible.

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Rob,
>  Per the wiki where Lily proposed the RC build test plan, it will take <=
> 1 week.
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan
>
>

OK.  I would recommend that we do not delay the vote for the regression
test results.  Instead, we should have the voting period be long enough
that the regression tests will be done before the vote closes.  That way
IPMC members can do their release verification in parallel with Lily's
final testing.

-Rob



> - Simon
>
> 2012/4/5 Rob Weir 
>
> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
> >
> > > Juergen,
> > >  Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a
> > regression
> > > testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the
> community
> > > vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE
> > > perspective, after the build passed her regression test.
> > >  Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > How long will it take to do a regression test against the RC build?  How
> > many days?
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > > - Simon
> > >
> > > 2012/4/5 xia zhao 
> > >
> > > > Juergen,
> > > >
> > > > Usually how long the vote will continue?
> > > >
> > > > Lily
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 
> > > >
> > > > > On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> How long shall we wait before we vote?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > > We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance
> to
> > > > take
> > > > > a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will
> send a
> > > > call
> > > > > for the VOTE on various lists then.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Juergen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt > > > jogischm...@googlemail.com>
> > > >  >> >:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to
> > our
> > > > >>> first
> > > > >>> release.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an
> ALv2
> > > > >>> header.
> > > > >>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
> > hu
> > > ru
> > > > >>> zh-TW fi
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were
> > > already
> > > > >>> built for the developer snapshots.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are
> > > satisfied
> > > > >>> with
> > > > >>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our
> > > first
> > > > >>> RC.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Juergen
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Feeling my oats this morning

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> People love fanning flames...
>
>
> http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/apache-openoffice-who-knows-where-the-time-goes/
>
>
Cool, I just saw the movie "Quantum Apocalypse" last night.  Not a black
hole colliding with the Earth, but a "cloud of quarks" with similar
effect.   The movie was almost as poorly researched as that article you
link to.

First, the phrase "components that were either replaced or removed" is a
rhetorical device that probably has a fancy Greek name, but it is mixing
things with user impact with things that have no user impact.  You see this
device used by some advocacy groups to increase the impact of their
statements, like "Last year government statistics report that over
5,000,000 children were either murdered or had chickenpox".

Second, the author does not seem to understand the distinction between
category-b and category-x licenses and how they are treated at Apache.  For
example, Hunspell is category-b, so it is included in our binary packages.
It is not lost, as the author claims.

Third, several of the replacements we made are actually beneficial to the
user, giving better functionality or security.  For example, our solver
replacement (CoinMP) has been rated higher by researchers than the GPL
component that we are replacing.

As for who has the wind in their sails, etc.  We're more of a battleship
than a sailboat.  We're slow to turn, but once we get steaming we make our
own wind.

Finally, I think this project is very happy to talk to reporters who might
have questions when preparing an article. It is not an imposition.  It is
part of what Apache PMC's do. It is an easy way to avoid sloppy errors.

-Rob

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Shenfeng Liu

Rob,
  Per the wiki where Lily proposed the RC build test plan, it will take <=
1 week.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan

- Simon

2012/4/5 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>
> > Juergen,
> >  Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a
> regression
> > testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the community
> > vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE
> > perspective, after the build passed her regression test.
> >  Thanks!
> >
> >
> How long will it take to do a regression test against the RC build?  How
> many days?
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
> > - Simon
> >
> > 2012/4/5 xia zhao 
> >
> > > Juergen,
> > >
> > > Usually how long the vote will continue?
> > >
> > > Lily
> > >
> > > 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 
> > >
> > > > On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> How long shall we wait before we vote?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to
> > > take
> > > > a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a
> > > call
> > > > for the VOTE on various lists then.
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
> > > >
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt > > jogischm...@googlemail.com>
> > >  >> >:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to
> our
> > > >>> first
> > > >>> release.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2
> > > >>> header.
> > > >>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
> hu
> > ru
> > > >>> zh-TW fi
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were
> > already
> > > >>> built for the developer snapshots.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are
> > satisfied
> > > >>> with
> > > >>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our
> > first
> > > >>> RC.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Juergen
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Juergen,
>  Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a regression
> testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the community
> vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE
> perspective, after the build passed her regression test.
>  Thanks!
>
>
How long will it take to do a regression test against the RC build?  How
many days?

-Rob



> - Simon
>
> 2012/4/5 xia zhao 
>
> > Juergen,
> >
> > Usually how long the vote will continue?
> >
> > Lily
> >
> > 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 
> >
> > > On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> > >
> > >> How long shall we wait before we vote?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to
> > take
> > > a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a
> > call
> > > for the VOTE on various lists then.
> > >
> > > In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
> > >
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt > jogischm...@googlemail.com>
> >  >> >:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our
> > >>> first
> > >>> release.
> > >>>
> > >>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2
> > >>> header.
> > >>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
> > >>>
> > >>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
> > >>>
> > >>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu
> ru
> > >>> zh-TW fi
> > >>>
> > >>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were
> already
> > >>> built for the developer snapshots.
> > >>>
> > >>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are
> satisfied
> > >>> with
> > >>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our
> first
> > >>> RC.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Juergen
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Shenfeng Liu

Juergen,
  Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a regression
testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the community
vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE
perspective, after the build passed her regression test.
  Thanks!

- Simon

2012/4/5 xia zhao 

> Juergen,
>
> Usually how long the vote will continue?
>
> Lily
>
> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 
>
> > On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> >
> >> How long shall we wait before we vote?
> >>
> >>
> > We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to
> take
> > a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a
> call
> > for the VOTE on various lists then.
> >
> > In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com>
>  >> >:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our
> >>> first
> >>> release.
> >>>
> >>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2
> >>> header.
> >>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
> >>>
> >>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
> >>>
> >>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
> >>> zh-TW fi
> >>>
> >>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already
> >>> built for the developer snapshots.
> >>>
> >>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied
> >>> with
> >>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first
> >>> RC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Juergen
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: LGPL vs Apache 2.0 FAQ?

2012-04-05 Thread Joost Andrae


Hi Gianluca,

I am not a lawyer but I think the following page is informative for 
people to understand how the Apache Foundation handles third-party licenses:

http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html

And the Legal page is worth to be read as well:
http://www.apache.org/legal/

If you want to compare the licenses then it's always helpful to take a 
look at the Open Source Initiative homepage at http://www.opensource.org.


I'm not sure if an average user is able to read legal language thus in 
my opinion such a legal comparison might not be useful at all because it 
probably needs to be written in legal language.



Am 05.04.2012 10:47, schrieb Gianluca Turconi:

Hello *,

is there a page like "LGPL vs Apache 2.0" FAQ for Apache OpenOffice, in
order to show explicitly to users and distributors what differences
there are btw those licenses?

Something like "Before you could do that, now you can do the same thing
(or not)".


Kind regards, Joost

Re: ParagraphData copy constructor not found

2012-04-05 Thread Jean-Louis 'Hans' Fuchs

Hello Armin

Thanks that worked although I had to change EDITENG_DLLPUBLIC to __global.

Best,
  Jean 

On 05.04.2012, at 12:06, Armin Le Grand wrote:

> On 05.04.2012 11:29, Jean-Louis 'Hans' Fuchs wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> I get an undefined symbol error for "ParagraphData::ParagraphData(const 
>> ParagraphData&)". I checked that the library libediteng.so is included, that 
>> the symbol is there and that it really demangles to the signature. See below.
>> 
>> Has anybody an idea what I could try next?
>> Is it possible to disable that module? Since this is a debug build that I 
>> need soon and in the release build this doesn't happen.
> 
> ParagraphData is not used in dlgedfunc.cxx (in reportdesigner), it is also 
> not exported from libediteng (see paragraphdata.hxx). Seems to be a solaris 
> compiler thingy; somehow (maybe includes and inlines) he wants that 
> constructor.
> 
> ParagraphData is not used outside editengine module, thus it is okay not to 
> export it (each single export makes the startup slower, thus this was 
> optimized once). If you find no solution, you may add EDITENG_DLLPUBLIC to 
> the ParagraphData definition in paragraphdata.hxx, rebuild and deliver 
> editeng module and try again.
> 
> Should look like this:
> 
> class EDITENG_DLLPUBLIC ParagraphData
> {
> ...
> 
> 
> Please do not check this in, it's only a workarund.
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Sincerely,
>   Armin
> 
> 
>> Best,
>>  Jean
>> 
>> oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ 
>> /opt/solarisstudio12.3//bin/CC -w -mt -z combreloc -PIC -temp=/tmp 
>> -norunpath -library=no%Cstd -R'$ORIGIN:$ORIGIN/../ure-link/lib' -z text -G 
>> -Bdirect -z defs -M ../unxsols4/misc/component_rptui.map -L../unxsols4/lib 
>> -L../lib -L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/lib 
>> -L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solver/340/unxsols4/lib 
>> -L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/lib 
>> -L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/libsolaris.2.6 -L/lib 
>> -L/usr/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/dt/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib 
>> -L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/lib 
>> -L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc 
>> -L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc/xawt 
>> -L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc/native_threads -L/usr/X11/lib 
>> ../unxsols4/slo/rptui_version.o -o ../unxsols4/lib/librptui.so 
>> ../unxsols4/slo/RptUndo.o ../unxsols4/slo/ColorListener.o 
>> ../unxsols4/slo/UITools.o ../unxsols4/slo/rptuiservices.o ../unxsols4/slo/
> toolbox
> controller.o ../unxsols4/slo/statusbarcontroller.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/FunctionHelper.o ../unxsols4/slo/dlgpage.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/Condition.o ../unxsols4/slo/CondFormat.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/GroupExchange.o ../unxsols4/slo/PageNumber.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/DateTime.o ../unxsols4/slo/AddField.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/Navigator.o ../unxsols4/slo/GroupsSorting.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/Formula.o ../unxsols4/slo/uistrings.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/DefaultInspection.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportComponentHandler.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/GeometryHandler.o ../unxsols4/slo/DataProviderHandler.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/metadata.o ../unxsols4/slo/SectionWindow.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/ReportController.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportControllerObserver.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/FormattedFieldBeautifier.o ../unxsols4/slo/FixedTextColor.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/ReportSection.o ../unxsols4/slo/SectionView.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/ViewsWindow.o ../unxsols4/slo/ScrollHelper.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/StartMarker.o ../unxsols4/slo/EndMarker.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o ../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfa
> c.o ../u
> nxsols4/slo/dlgedclip.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportWindow.o 
> ../unxsols4/slo/DesignView.o ../unxsols4/slo/propbrw.o -lediteng -lsvxcore 
> -lsvx -lsfx -lsvt -ltk -lvcl -lsvl -lsot -lutl -ltl -ldbtools -lcomphelpC52 
> -luno_cppuhelperC52 -luno_cppu -lfwe -li18nisolang1C52 -luno_sal -ldbu -lrpt 
> -lfor -lforui -Bdynamic -lpthread -lCrun -lm -lc -Bdynamic 
> -lstlport_sunpro_debug
>> Undefined   first referenced
>>  symbol in file
>> ParagraphData::ParagraphData(const ParagraphData&)
>> ../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o
>> ld: fatal: symbol referencing errors. No output written to 
>> ../unxsols4/lib/librptui.so
>> oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $
>> 
>> oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ nm 
>> ../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o | grep ParagraphData | grep UNDEF
>> [772]   | 0| 0|FUNC |GLOB |0|UNDEF  
>> |__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_
>> 
>> oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ nm 
>> /build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solver/340/unxsols4/lib/libediteng.so | grep 
>> __1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_
>> [1584]  |   1875448|28|FUNC |LOCL |2|11 
>> |__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_
>> 
>> oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ echo 
>> __1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_ | /build/aoo-build-debug/demangle/demangle
>> ParagraphData::ParagraphData(c

Re: [WIKI] Support for multilingual wiki in MediaWiki

2012-04-05 Thread Claudio Filho

Hi

2012/4/5 Serg Bormant :
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Test/pt-br
> -- language codes are rendered as unordered list, not as in en page.
> Is there wrong template usage in localized page or somthing else?


Sorry Serg, but i can't see your viewpoint.

The list of language codes are in Templates pages. You can organize as
you wish. How we can't support/community for all languages, i cutted
many links, preserving only the main languages.

Try to edit this template[1] to see the code, that you will understand
the logic.
[1]http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Template:OrigLang

Best,
Claudio

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 1:36 PM, Serg Bormant wrote:

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt:


I have found something and will test it... I will keep you informed


Thanks.
Sometimes we need to find particular UI element in SDF/PO set. Kid
(Key ID) interface greatly simplifies this task.

ok, I was able to create a new kid/localize.sdf and will prepare a 
language pack for MacOS later.


We can include this "pseudo-locale" in the future when we have ensured 
that the new file works as expected and the language pack is usable.


Which platform do you use?

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Serg Bormant

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt :
>
> I have found something and will test it... I will keep you informed

Thanks.
Sometimes we need to find particular UI element in SDF/PO set. Kid
(Key ID) interface greatly simplifies this task.

-- 
wbr, sb

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 1:17 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 4/5/12 1:13 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 4/5/12 12:21 PM, Serg Bormant wrote:

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt:
...

I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
zh-TW fi


Is it possible to include "kid" pseudolocale in the build?


For this round it is potentially too late, at least for Windows.

Can you tell me more about this pseudolocale "kid". I know you have
mentioned it before but I have to confess that I don't know anything
about it and would like to learn more...

Do we need it on Pootle as well? How is it prepared?


I meant do we need as reference on Pootle? I would expect that it is
generated automatically but I don't know how.



I have found something and will test it... I will keep you informed

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 1:13 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 4/5/12 12:21 PM, Serg Bormant wrote:

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt:
...

I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
zh-TW fi


Is it possible to include "kid" pseudolocale in the build?


For this round it is potentially too late, at least for Windows.

Can you tell me more about this pseudolocale "kid". I know you have
mentioned it before but I have to confess that I don't know anything
about it and would like to learn more...

Do we need it on Pootle as well? How is it prepared?


I meant do we need as reference on Pootle? I would expect that it is 
generated automatically but I don't know how.


Juergen

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 12:21 PM, Serg Bormant wrote:

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt:
...

I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
zh-TW fi


Is it possible to include "kid" pseudolocale in the build?


For this round it is potentially too late, at least for Windows.

Can you tell me more about this pseudolocale "kid". I know you have 
mentioned it before but I have to confess that I don't know anything 
about it and would like to learn more...


Do we need it on Pootle as well? How is it prepared?

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 9:22 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our
first release.

The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2
header. The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!

The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.


I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
zh-TW fi

The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already
built for the developer snapshots.

We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied
with the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our
first RC.



Important: don't forget the "--enable-bundled-dictionaries" configure switch

Juergen



Juergen

Re: Previous extension won't work against AOO 3.4?


On 4/5/12 12:05 PM, xia zhao wrote:

Juergen,

How to understand the comments at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

"
Please also notice that extensions can't be migrated because of underlying
technical changes (removing Berkeley DB)".

So it means all the previous extension developed against previous OOo
version can't work against AOO 3.4?


no that is false and a misleading information, I will change it.

At the beginning we had problems with the migration of installed 
extensions. But this is fixed now and former installed extensions should 
be migrated.



And extension developed for earlier OpenOffice versions should still 
work. But it can always happen that other changes will make problems. 
Extensions in C++ can make more problems but often a simple rebuild 
should solve such problems


Today I would always suggest to use a max version dependency and would 
check my extension for the next version. This way it is possible to 
ensure an always working extension.


Juergen





Lily

[ISSUE] 119186 submitted - follow on from looking to get involved

2012-04-05 Thread Ian

Hi,

I created a short document tracking what I saw from start page and raised
the above issue to describe it, suggesting the site at least needs a clean
up to make it easier/more likely to attract newbies like me.

Not sure if this is the correct place to mention this? Sing out if not.
I'll get the hang of the place eventually.

Cheers,

Ian

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Serg Bormant

Hi,

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt :
...
> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
>
> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
> zh-TW fi

Is it possible to include "kid" pseudolocale in the build?

-- 
wbr, sb

Re: ParagraphData copy constructor not found

2012-04-05 Thread Armin Le Grand


On 05.04.2012 11:29, Jean-Louis 'Hans' Fuchs wrote:

Hello

I get an undefined symbol error for "ParagraphData::ParagraphData(const 
ParagraphData&)". I checked that the library libediteng.so is included, that the 
symbol is there and that it really demangles to the signature. See below.

Has anybody an idea what I could try next?
Is it possible to disable that module? Since this is a debug build that I need 
soon and in the release build this doesn't happen.


ParagraphData is not used in dlgedfunc.cxx (in reportdesigner), it is 
also not exported from libediteng (see paragraphdata.hxx). Seems to be a 
solaris compiler thingy; somehow (maybe includes and inlines) he wants 
that constructor.


ParagraphData is not used outside editengine module, thus it is okay not 
to export it (each single export makes the startup slower, thus this was 
optimized once). If you find no solution, you may add EDITENG_DLLPUBLIC 
to the ParagraphData definition in paragraphdata.hxx, rebuild and 
deliver editeng module and try again.


Should look like this:

class EDITENG_DLLPUBLIC ParagraphData
{
...


Please do not check this in, it's only a workarund.

HTH!

Sincerely,
Armin



Best,
Jean

oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ 
/opt/solarisstudio12.3//bin/CC -w -mt -z combreloc -PIC -temp=/tmp -norunpath 
-library=no%Cstd -R'$ORIGIN:$ORIGIN/../ure-link/lib' -z text -G -Bdirect -z 
defs -M ../unxsols4/misc/component_rptui.map -L../unxsols4/lib -L../lib 
-L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/lib 
-L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solver/340/unxsols4/lib 
-L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/lib 
-L/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solenv/unxsols4/libsolaris.2.6 -L/lib 
-L/usr/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/dt/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib 
-L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/lib -L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc 
-L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc/xawt 
-L/usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/sparc/native_threads -L/usr/X11/lib 
../unxsols4/slo/rptui_version.o -o ../unxsols4/lib/librptui.so 
../unxsols4/slo/RptUndo.o ../unxsols4/slo/ColorListener.o 
../unxsols4/slo/UITools.o ../unxsols4/slo/rptuiservices.o 
../unxsols4/slo/toolbox

controller.o ../unxsols4/slo/statusbarcontroller.o 
../unxsols4/slo/FunctionHelper.o ../unxsols4/slo/dlgpage.o 
../unxsols4/slo/Condition.o ../unxsols4/slo/CondFormat.o 
../unxsols4/slo/GroupExchange.o ../unxsols4/slo/PageNumber.o 
../unxsols4/slo/DateTime.o ../unxsols4/slo/AddField.o 
../unxsols4/slo/Navigator.o ../unxsols4/slo/GroupsSorting.o 
../unxsols4/slo/Formula.o ../unxsols4/slo/uistrings.o 
../unxsols4/slo/DefaultInspection.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportComponentHandler.o 
../unxsols4/slo/GeometryHandler.o ../unxsols4/slo/DataProviderHandler.o 
../unxsols4/slo/metadata.o ../unxsols4/slo/SectionWindow.o 
../unxsols4/slo/ReportController.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportControllerObserver.o 
../unxsols4/slo/FormattedFieldBeautifier.o ../unxsols4/slo/FixedTextColor.o 
../unxsols4/slo/ReportSection.o ../unxsols4/slo/SectionView.o 
../unxsols4/slo/ViewsWindow.o ../unxsols4/slo/ScrollHelper.o 
../unxsols4/slo/StartMarker.o ../unxsols4/slo/EndMarker.o 
../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o ../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfac.o ../u
nxsols4/slo/dlgedclip.o ../unxsols4/slo/ReportWindow.o 
../unxsols4/slo/DesignView.o ../unxsols4/slo/propbrw.o -lediteng -lsvxcore 
-lsvx -lsfx -lsvt -ltk -lvcl -lsvl -lsot -lutl -ltl -ldbtools -lcomphelpC52 
-luno_cppuhelperC52 -luno_cppu -lfwe -li18nisolang1C52 -luno_sal -ldbu -lrpt 
-lfor -lforui -Bdynamic -lpthread -lCrun -lm -lc -Bdynamic 
-lstlport_sunpro_debug

Undefined   first referenced
  symbol in file
ParagraphData::ParagraphData(const ParagraphData&)
../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o
ld: fatal: symbol referencing errors. No output written to 
../unxsols4/lib/librptui.so
oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $

oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ nm 
../unxsols4/slo/dlgedfunc.o | grep ParagraphData | grep UNDEF
[772]   | 0| 0|FUNC |GLOB |0|UNDEF  
|__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_

oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ nm 
/build/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/solver/340/unxsols4/lib/libediteng.so | grep 
__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_
[1584]  |   1875448|28|FUNC |LOCL |2|11 
|__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_

oobuild@sundev: ~/aoo-build-debug/ooo/main/reportdesign/unxsols4 $ echo 
__1cNParagraphData2t6Mrk0_v_ | /build/aoo-build-debug/demangle/demangle
ParagraphData::ParagraphData(const ParagraphData&)

Previous extension won't work against AOO 3.4?

Juergen,

How to understand the comments at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

"
Please also notice that extensions can't be migrated because of underlying
technical changes (removing Berkeley DB)".

So it means all the previous extension developed against previous OOo
version can't work against AOO 3.4?


Lily

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

Juergen,

Usually how long the vote will continue?

Lily

2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt 

> On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
>
>> How long shall we wait before we vote?
>>
>>
> We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to take
> a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a call
> for the VOTE on various lists then.
>
> In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
>> 2012/4/5 Jürgen 
>> Schmidt
>> >:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our
>>> first
>>> release.
>>>
>>> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2
>>> header.
>>> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
>>>
>>> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
>>>
>>> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
>>> zh-TW fi
>>>
>>> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already
>>> built for the developer snapshots.
>>>
>>> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied
>>> with
>>> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first
>>> RC.
>>>
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>
>

Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-05 Thread Andre Fischer


On 05.04.2012 09:13, Gianluca Turconi wrote:

In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer  ha
scritto:


Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.
If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.


The Italian users, who have answered to my question, prefer the light
solution (Italian + English only).

So you can keep things how they are now.


OK, will do (doing nothing is what I do best).



Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the "en" dictionary
has not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English
dictionary only.


Yes, that is strange.  I had assumed that it would provide a common 
subset of the different "englishes".


-Andre

Re: openoffice cannot be launched after upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4 on Ubuntu?

2012-04-05 Thread Andre Fischer


Hi,

I have on plea to all of us:  if you find any ugly crashes, please flag 
them as potential show stopper as soon as possible.  Remember, we are 
nearing our first release candidate.


The problem below was already known four days ago (issue 119162, 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162).


Thank you,
Andre

On 05.04.2012 10:42, lou ql wrote:

Ubuntu 10.04
build: r1303653

clean install oo 3.4 it works well, but if upgrade from oo3.3, it cannot be
launched.

I run ./soffice in terminal and get the errors:

javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
Application Error

Fatal exception: Signal 6
Stack:
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1f0e4)[0xdd80e4]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1ff78)[0xdd8f78]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20050)[0xdd9050]
[0xfdf400]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(abort+0x182)[0x52ea82]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0xdd1ad)[0x79791ad]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(_ZN11Application5AbortERK6String+0x1a)[0x79a009e]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x154f8)[0x1254f8]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0x107805)[0x79a3805]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvos3gcc3.so(_ZN3vos26signalHandlerFunction_implEPvP13oslSignalInfo+0x12)[0x216cce]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20023)[0xdd9023]
[0xfdf400]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so
(+0x2c756)[0x1b6b756]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so
(+0x30267)[0x1b6f267]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so
(+0x2e7b6)[0x1b6d7b6]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libdeploymentmisc.so(_ZN7dp_misc16syncRepositoriesERKN3com3sun4star3uno9ReferenceINS2_3ucb19XCommandEnvironmentEEE+0x336)[0x188242]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x26b7e)[0x136b7e]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x1b226)[0x12b226]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0x108385)[0x79a4385]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(_Z6SVMainv+0x2c)[0x79a451c]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(soffice_main+0xd0)[0x1471e0]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin(main+0x20)[0x8048d14]
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0x517bd6]
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin[0x8048c61]

Re: LGPL vs Apache 2.0 FAQ?

2012-04-05 Thread Sylvain DENIS

Very good idea

Sylvain

2012/4/5 Gianluca Turconi 

> Hello *,
>
> is there a page like "LGPL vs Apache 2.0" FAQ for Apache OpenOffice, in
> order to show explicitly to users and distributors what differences there
> are btw those licenses?
>
> Something like "Before you could do that, now you can do the same thing
> (or not)".
>
> It would be very useful, IMO, to avoid misunderstandings.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Gianluca Turconi
> Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
> fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
> http://www.letturefantastiche.**com/ 
>



-- 
Librement,

Sylvain DENIS
*ICT & FLOSS Specialist*
*RSRSi (Responsable Sécurité et Risques des Systèmes d'information)***

LGPL vs Apache 2.0 FAQ?

2012-04-05 Thread Gianluca Turconi


Hello *,

is there a page like "LGPL vs Apache 2.0" FAQ for Apache OpenOffice, in  
order to show explicitly to users and distributors what differences there  
are btw those licenses?


Something like "Before you could do that, now you can do the same thing  
(or not)".


It would be very useful, IMO, to avoid misunderstandings.

Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:

How long shall we wait before we vote?



We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to 
take a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send 
a call for the VOTE on various lists then.


In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts.

Juergen




2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt:

Hi,

a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our first
release.

The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2 header.
The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!

The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.


I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
zh-TW fi

The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already
built for the developer snapshots.

We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied with
the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first RC.


Juergen

Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification

2012-04-05 Thread Guillaume Fernandez (Club)

Hi everyone,

I think that kevin's changes are very important.

1) The looks is indeed more profesionnal. The capitalization has enhanced the
natural readability of the logo.
The kerning is better while somewhat a little dense (intermediate position would
be great).

2) The look of the main webpage is crucial : we absolutly have to get a
professional look and in my opinion this is not the case today. because of the
JPEG quality and resolution (blurred image). We should improve the quality of
the JPEG (or use a non-destructive PNG).

Guillaume
(I am a new suscriber here at ooo-dev).

Hi Kevin,
On 04.04.2012 05:55, Kevin Grignon wrote:
Kay et al.
I can help here. I have the skills and the tools.
Beyond getting the right size, I'd like to propose a few other small tweak to
the rendered logo. My proposed enhancements don't change the voted and approved
concept, rather, they merely some polish to the concept as we move towards
production consumption.
See proposed enhancements: 4. Enhancements to Selected Logo Concept (Kevin
Grignon - started 2012-04-04)
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals

I like the change of "Apache" to gray but am not so sure about its
capitalization. I understand the reason (after you pointed it out to us
non-artists :) though.
The kerning looks more homogeneous but somewhat dense. For example the i and c
in Office seem to almost touch.
Regards, Andre
I'll need to access the source files.
Regards, Kevin

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 04/03/2012 03:46 PM, drew jensen wrote:
Maybe one of should drop Michael Acevedo a note, see if he already has a source
file handy - xcf, svg.
If not - I don't know of a svg (or any vector based) file for the bug part of
the image - I know how to recreate one properly from the 256px png image and
would be more then willing to do that, and recreate a likeness of the orb logo
design all vector based and a jpg from that.
I could likely have that here pretty quickly - it would be polite though to
email Michael first however, I suppose.
so - added him on CC to the mail here
Howdy Michael,
Good instincts on your proposal.. wondering if you have any source type fies for
the jpg file posted t the wiki?
//drew

OK, maybe I was a bit confusing, and I hope this elaboration helps.
What I think would be ideal is for someone to take the "cropped" image

I
did that is in svn at--

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg

this is now 217 x 79
re-size it "up" to 275 x 100
with clear lettering instead of the blurring that happens
I have just about NO talent with graphics editing at all.
So thanks for any help with this.

We'll need the original vectors. I think the correct size will have the Orb be
about 70px tall and centered vertically with 15px above, below and left of it.
If the size is exactly 100 you probably don't need to do anything, but you might
want to edit css/ooo.css
#ooo-logo { height: 100px; padding-top: 4px; padding-left: 8px; }

a! light dawns -- maybe. The graphic height is actually 79 -- I didn't tract
down the css for any of this --but the rendering kept changing it to 100. It
looks better alreger actually but then there's teh blrury text.
OK, I'll play some more but it may have to wait until tomorrow.
You may want to remove the height setting.
To adjust the text banner here is the css in css/ooo.css:
#bannercenter { padding: 31pt 2pt 14pt 2pt; float: center; color: #107EC0; }
Play with the padding until pleased. I like to do this in Google Chrome.

OK, I'll try again...
Regards, Dave
I also copied Michael...
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 15:23 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
Folks --
The new logo is rendered on the staging web site right now--
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/
It will not go into the production site, www.openoffice.org until someone does a
"publish" which I have not yet done. I'm not happy with the size or positioning
of the new logo.
I rendered an alternate version of it -- cropped -- in

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_cropped.jpg

This actually looks pretty good *except* the image itself is 217 x 79, and
somehow the web site wants to render it at 275 x 100, which positioning wise is
SUPER, but then the lettering is quite blurry.
screen capture of what happened is at:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Web+Site+with+Proposed+Logos

So, I would LOVE for some creative person out there to take

http://ooo-s

Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668

2012-04-05 Thread Yong Lin Ma

How long shall we wait before we vote?


2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt :
> Hi,
>
> a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our first
> release.
>
> The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2 header.
> The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!
>
> The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.
>
>
> I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.
>
> Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru
> zh-TW fi
>
> The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already
> built for the developer snapshots.
>
> We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied with
> the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first RC.
>
>
> Juergen

[RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668


Hi,

a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our 
first release.


The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2 
header. The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake!


The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work.


I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668.

Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru 
zh-TW fi


The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already 
built for the developer snapshots.


We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied 
with the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our 
first RC.



Juergen

Re: [RELEASE] Dictionary extensions

2012-04-05 Thread Gianluca Turconi

In data 02 aprile 2012 alle ore 17:30:40, Andre Fischer  ha  
scritto:



Added English dictionary (plain en, no -US or other) for Italian UI.
 If (when) your factions come to an agreement, let me know.


The Italian users, who have answered to my question, prefer the light  
solution (Italian + English only).


So you can keep things how they are now.

Anyway, it would be interesting to me to know why the "en" dictionary has  
not a nation suffix even though it seems being an American English  
dictionary only.


Regards,
--
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/

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