date:20120509

On 09.05.2012 08:46, eric b wrote:

Hi,

I like the work you did. Currently, the idea of square logo is
extremely interesting.

I like it also. To me it looks more modern than the current round logo.

-Andre

Feel free to contribute to OOoLight and OOo4Kids if you want :-)

Regards,
Eric

Le 9 mai 12 à 04:52, Michael Acevedo a écrit :

Hi,

I have decided to move forward and give you an early preview of how I
think
we should move for the logo of Apache OpenOffice 4 which I think is the
general consensus of the next major release of our project pending Apache
approval. The logos I am proposing are basically the same but there are a
few modifications to the current logo. Below is a description:

AOO Next Logo Changes:

- The AOO Next logo has a smaller spacing between the letters and
changes the word Apache to APACHE in caps (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's proposal in the Wiki).
- The color of the APACHE word is now gray (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's Proposal in the Wiki).
- Integration of the AOO initials (for one of the logo proposals).
- Retirement of the Orb logo and substituting it with a refined concept
of the previous OOo logo prior verson 3.2.1. I did this new icon in a
conservative manner and I think it will fit best the next release of
AOO as
it will match with the post AOO 3.4 Application (Writer, Impress, Calc,
etc.) icons. The new logo makes a nod to the post-PC era when it comes to
how an application icon now looks in our devices.
- Keep some commonality with the current Orb Centric logo by keeping the
name of the suite with the current font that is being used for our site's
logo.

Without further waiting, I present to you my logo proposal for AOO 4.
Please follow this link:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13resid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13!1631parid=root

Hope you like it and suggestions are welcomed. I would like to credit
Kevin
Gringon for the changes in terms of font spacing in the word OpenOffice
and the APACHE word capitalization suggestions.

--
Best,
Michael

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi *,

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:
 Michael,
 
 Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you acknowledging
 my earlier contributions - most gracious.
 
 With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
 performing some design research and explorations in support of branding for
 AOO 4.0.
 
 Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
 capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I would
 like to share with you and others for input.
 
 Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?
 
 http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html


IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,
I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen
Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread eric b



Le 9 mai 12 à 09:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :


Hi *,




Hi,



On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:

Michael,

Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you  
acknowledging

my earlier contributions - most gracious.

With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think  
about
performing some design research and explorations in support of  
branding for

AOO 4.0.

Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the  
wiki to
capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that  
I would

like to share with you and others for input.


Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?

http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html



IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,





Both are equal to my eyes : the door is open, and beginners are  
welcome too : creativity and being employed by a company are  
orthogonal ...




I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen




Me too.


http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/ 
OOo3_Splash_Screen

Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.




Stella did a great work, and not only in this case. Maybe she's   
reading the thread, and could give us some advices ? (just in  
case  :-)  )



Regards,
Eric


--
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Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...


On 09.05.2012 09:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi *,

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:

Michael,

Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you acknowledging
my earlier contributions - most gracious.

With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
performing some design research and explorations in support of branding for
AOO 4.0.

Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I would
like to share with you and others for input.


Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?

 http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html



IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,
I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen


I see what you mean.  Although some of them are actually quite good.
And flex does probably have a more design oriented user base.


Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.


Regards

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Chao Huang

Welcome!


2012/5/9 l x lxnice...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work in
 the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful
 product to users.

 Welcome to send UX issues to Kevin and me to communicate, thanks! :)

 --
 Best regards,
 Xin Li   李欣
 UX designer




-- 
Best regards,
Chao Huang

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Shenfeng Liu

Welcome, Xin!
There are a lot of works in AOO need professional UX designers. e.g. logo,
template, feature UI design, user survey, use scenario... Let's work
together!

2012/5/9 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw

 Welcome, Xin Li~ ^_*'

 2012/5/9 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com:
   Welcome aboard.
 
  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM, l x lxnice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
  join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience
 work in
  the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful
  product to users.
 
  Welcome to send UX issues to Kevin and me to communicate, thanks! :)
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Xin Li   李欣
  UX designer

Re: Aoo needs more than 1G memory to do a debug build?

2012-05-09 Thread bo . tian

I has meet the same situation when building sw before it has been changed into 
gbuild.
Building it may use more than 2G system memory.
As a result, it use your hard drive as virtual memory when needed , which is 
really slow.
The easiest way to build faster is upgrade your PC to more than 2G memory.




bo.tian

From: shzh zhao
Date: 2012-05-09 11:26
To: ooo-dev; aoo.zhaoshzh
Subject: Aoo needs more than 1G memory to do a debug build?
hi,

when I do a debug build in sc moudle at windows xp platform,
the system just likes to hang on for many minutes,and the used memory is
very large.
how to downgrade the using memory?
here is the snap:


-- 
*


mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles
https://google.com/profiles

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread Ross Gardler

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 9, 2012 3:25 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:


 This is what Apache has to deal with...

... and we've consistently found the best thing to do is to follow
Gandalf's lead.

Gandalf (from Tolkien's The Hobbit) lets the trolls fight amongst
themselves until the sun rises and turns them to stone. He does not argue
with them, he does not try to prove them wrong, he does not fight them. He
simply prompts them to argue amongst themselves.

This is a masterclass on how to deal with trolls.

We get on with writing code and putting it out there. The trolls will
continue to argue until the sun rises. AOO and LO will still be here and,
without the trolls, will be free to collaborate.

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Kevin Grignon

All good thoughts.

Again, I think it is best to summarize our current thoughts on what the
brand is intended to represent, then explore design alternatives to realize
the brand message.

Regards,
Kevin

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:

On 09.05.2012 09:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi *,

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:

Michael,

Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you
acknowledging
my earlier contributions - most gracious.

With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
performing some design research and explorations in support of branding
for
AOO 4.0.

Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I would
like to share with you and others for input.

Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?

http://incubator.apache.org/**flex/logo-contest.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html

IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,
I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen
http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Art/**
Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screenhttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen

I see what you mean. Although some of them are actually quite good.
And flex does probably have a more design oriented user base.

Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.

Regards

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 5/9/12 7:22 AM, l x wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work in
 the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful
 product to users.
 
 Welcome to send UX issues to Kevin and me to communicate, thanks! :)
 

welcome on board and have fun here

Regards
Juergen

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread eric


Le 09/05/2012 07:22, l x a écrit :
 Hi all,

Hello,

Be welcome !

Glad to see more people involved every day, including in UX domain :-)

Regards,
Eric

 
 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work in
 the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful
 product to users.
 
 Welcome to send UX issues to Kevin and me to communicate, thanks! :)
 


-- 
Education Project:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

Re: OpenOffice 3.4 for solaris

2012-05-09 Thread Edward


On 05/08/2012 05:13 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

See this email on the list from earlier today:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201205.mbox/%3C1336500864.32673.8.camel%40oipunk%3E

A build is in process if you want to help test.



   Thanks! I'll keep an eye on the mailing list for the announcement.

buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openoffice-linux32-nightly


Hi,

I just finished a build on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12.04 32-Bit 
Linux.  Not a single build problem.  Even the linear programming solver 
works.


I am a bit surprised (in a positive way) that it compiled so smoothly. 
After all, the 32-Bit buildbot (which, I think, uses the same system) 
has still to see its first successful build.


By the way, I used the default bfd linker (/usr/bin/ld - ld.bfd)

Regards,
Andre

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Yue Helen

2012/5/9 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com

 All good thoughts.

 Again, I think it is best to summarize our current thoughts on what the
 brand is intended to represent, then explore design alternatives to realize
 the brand message.

 This is a good but big question to ask...the key message in my mind is,

1) Apache OpenOffice is a continuation of OpenOffice.org - so it should
include some visual element from the previous OpenOffice logo, and need to
include Apache.
2) Several keywords for product mission, leading,
open-source/open-standard, ease of use (the target...)
http://www.openoffice.org/why/
3) Introduce refreshed, modern, sharp visual elements...to represent that
we are on the road to the next momentum.

Helen


 Regards,
 Kevin


 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:

  On 09.05.2012 09:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
  Hi *,
 
  On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:
 
  On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:
 
  Michael,
 
  Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you
  acknowledging
  my earlier contributions - most gracious.
 
  With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
  performing some design research and explorations in support of
 branding
  for
  AOO 4.0.
 
  Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
  capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I
 would
  like to share with you and others for input.
 
 
  Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?
 
  http://incubator.apache.org/**flex/logo-contest.html
 http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html
 
 
 
  IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,
  I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen
  http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Art/**
  Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen
 
 
  I see what you mean.  Although some of them are actually quite good.
  And flex does probably have a more design oriented user base.
 
 
   Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.
 
 
  Regards

[Extension] IBM Connections Extension is ready.

2012-05-09 Thread Liu Da Li

Dear all,

The IBM Connections Extensions lets you to connect IBM Connections easily
when you work in Apach OpenOffice window.
You can add Apache OpenOffice files to an Activity or a Files, create To-Do
items, create Bookmark, post a document to a Blog, or search Profiles data.

If you are IBM 
Connectionshttp://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/connections/andApache
Openofficehttp://www.openoffice.orguser. Please try this extension,
it will improve your productivity. Any
feedback are welcome.

Here is the extension link:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/IBMConnections

IBM Connections
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/connections/is social
software for business that lets you access everyone in your
professional network, including your colleagues, customers, and partners.
Profiles: Find the people you need by searching across your organization
using tags to identify expertise, current projects, and responsibilities.
Activities: Organize your work, plan your next steps, tap your professional
network, and gather information to meet business objectives.
Blogs: Gather and prioritize community ideas, present your own ideas, and
learn from others.
Wikis: Create web content together, edit, and publish it in a convenient
location with access that you manage.
Communities: Exchange and share information with others through a web
browser, IBM Sametime, or email software.
Files: Post, share, and discover documents, presentations, images, and more.
Bookmarks: Save, share, and discover bookmarks through this social
bookmarking service.

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Kevin Grignon

Helen,

Exactly the attributes that we need to capture on a AOO 4.0 logo wiki page to 
drive informed design decisions moving forward. 

I will harvest your thoughts and post to the wiki. 

I will share the page location and invite others to contribute. 

Kevin



On May 9, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Yue Helen helenyu...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/5/9 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com
 
 All good thoughts.
 
 Again, I think it is best to summarize our current thoughts on what the
 brand is intended to represent, then explore design alternatives to realize
 the brand message.
 
 This is a good but big question to ask...the key message in my mind is,
 
 1) Apache OpenOffice is a continuation of OpenOffice.org - so it should
 include some visual element from the previous OpenOffice logo, and need to
 include Apache.
 2) Several keywords for product mission, leading,
 open-source/open-standard, ease of use (the target...)
 http://www.openoffice.org/why/
 3) Introduce refreshed, modern, sharp visual elements...to represent that
 we are on the road to the next momentum.
 
 Helen
 
 
 Regards,
 Kevin
 
 
 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:
 
 On 09.05.2012 09:29, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
 Hi *,
 
 On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:24:40AM +0200, Andre Fischer wrote:
 
 On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
 Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you
 acknowledging
 my earlier contributions - most gracious.
 
 With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
 performing some design research and explorations in support of
 branding
 for
 AOO 4.0.
 
 Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
 capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I
 would
 like to share with you and others for input.
 
 
 Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?
 
http://incubator.apache.org/**flex/logo-contest.html
 http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html
 
 
 
 IMHO it is better to have some profession designer volunteering,
 I recall the ugly OOo 3 splash screen
 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Art/**
 Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Gallery/OOo3_Splash_Screen
 
 
 I see what you mean.  Although some of them are actually quite good.
 And flex does probably have a more design oriented user base.
 
 
 Stella's was far better that the one that got selected.
 
 
 Regards

Re: [Extension] IBM Connections Extension is ready.

2012-05-09 Thread Joost Andrae


Hi,

how is the legal Terms of use of this extension ? Does the sentence 
You also agree that IBM is free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how, 
or techniques that you send us for any purpose. within the IBM page at 
https://www.ibm.com/legal/us/en/ fit to this service ?


Kind regards, Joost

Am 09.05.2012 11:55, schrieb Liu Da Li:

Dear all,

The IBM Connections Extensions lets you to connect IBM Connections easily
when you work in Apach OpenOffice window.
You can add Apache OpenOffice files to an Activity or a Files, create To-Do
items, create Bookmark, post a document to a Blog, or search Profiles data.

If you are IBM 
Connectionshttp://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/connections/andApache
Openofficehttp://www.openoffice.orguser. Please try this extension,
it will improve your productivity. Any
feedback are welcome.

Here is the extension link:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/IBMConnections

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

I'm not designer, but is good idea to change logo of AOO.

Put the suggestions and design here[0] or wiki.

0 - http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html

News roads. :)

Best,
Albino

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

2012/5/9 l x lxnice...@gmail.com

 Hi all,


Hi.

Welcome!


 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work in
 the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful
 product to users.


The focus on AOO user experience important, now in the roads of new
versions. From now we are need focus in users.

Because they used it on a day.

Best,
Albino

Re: [Extension] IBM Connections Extension is ready.

2012-05-09 Thread Michael Meeks

Hi there,

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 17:55 +0800, Liu Da Li wrote:
 The IBM Connections Extensions lets you to connect IBM Connections easily

It sounds rather interesting.

 IBM Connections
 http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/connections/is social
 software for business that lets you access everyone in your
 professional network, including your colleagues, customers, and partners.

I wasn't aware of this, but it sounds powerful, is there a publicly
estimated user-base for the product ? If the connector is small enough;
given that it's widely useful - I'd be interested in the possibility of
including it into LibreOffice: particularly with a view to putting a
number of these connectors side-by-side and factoring commonality out of
them to share to reduce size/overlap.

That requires a free-software license though; is the plan to release
the code at some stage ?

Thanks,

Michael,

PS. Amusingly, I got a Microsoft / Windows Azure advert as I
downloaded it :-)
-- 
michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:21 AM, l x lxnice...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-users mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work
 in the future.

As long as you don't want to turn AOO into Symphony, it's fine with
me. In other words... you have to keep in mind that AOO users come
from an OpenOffice.org background, and are used to its user interface.
If they liked Symphony more they'd be Symphony users, not OO.o

Translation: any changes to the AOO UI should be incremental and
carefully thought and a radical redesign avoided at all costs.

And for heaven's sake, do not repeat Microsoft's Ribbon UI disaster.
CUA exists for a reason. :)

FC

-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
- George Orwell

Re: [postmas...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de: Benachrichtigung über den Übermittlungsstatus]

2012-05-09 Thread Carsten Otto

Any news?

On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 10:28:37AM +0200, Carsten Otto wrote:
 Dear whoever reads this,
 
 I experience problems when mirroring from the (old) openoffice archive.
 The contact address t...@openoffice.org is not valid anymore (see
 below), so I hope this is the place to reach someone who can fix the
 problem or tell us what to do.
 
 Diagnostic-code: smtp;550 Apache OpenOffice no longer relays openoffice.org
  mail.  See
  
 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#legacy-openofficeorg-lists
 
 Thanks,
 Carsten
 
 Original message:
 -
 Hi,
 
 the following error occurs when synchronizing with
 rsync://rsync.services.openoffice.org/openoffice-extended/ whenever this
 resolves to 212.101.4.244.
 
 Bye,
 Carsten
 
 - Forwarded message from cars...@c-otto.de -
 
 Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 10:17:54 +0200 (CEST)
 From: cars...@c-otto.de
 To: datafe...@ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 Subject: [ftpsync-openoffice-ftp@ftp] (25137) rsync ERROR on 
 2012.05.07-10:17:54
 
 @ERROR: chroot failed
 rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1524) 
 [Receiver=3.0.7]
 
 
 - End forwarded message -
-- 
Carsten Otto   o...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de
LuFG Informatik 2  http://verify.rwth-aachen.de/otto/
RWTH Aachenphone: +49 241 80-21211


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Re: svn commit: r816885 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer

Too soon.  The builds are taking longer than normal,
so please check them before attempting to publish.

http://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging



- Original Message -
 From: ima...@apache.org ima...@apache.org
 To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:11 AM
 Subject: svn commit: r816885 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ 
 content/
 
 Author: imacat
 Date: Wed May  9 12:11:55 2012
 New Revision: 816885
 
 Log:
 Publishing svnmucc operation to ooo-site site by imacat
 
 Added:
     websites/production/ooo-site/cgi-bin/
       - copied from r816884, websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/
     websites/production/ooo-site/content/
       - copied from r816884, websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/

Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-09 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 08.05.2012 22:55, eric b wrote:

Hi,

Le 8 mai 12 à 13:12, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :


Hi,


That's a very good idea. As you probably read in the issue, I took over the
task, and I'll use this wiki page to report any progress and step done.
The idea is, as discussed with Oliver and Armin, to reuse some Draw features
in Writer, like (image rotation). There is a lot to do and any help is welcome.


Armin's and my idea is mainly removing the Writer implementation for
images/pictures, introduce all its features missing in the Drawing Layer
implementation for images/pictures and use the Drawing Layer implementation
for images/pictures in Writer. Our idea is quite old, but we never got the
resources to work on it.
Unfortunately, all the work we had done in preparation is lost.



Do you really have no direction to point to us ? e.g. some class name, or
something like where in the code or whatever else who could help ?



I am sorry that I can not give some concrete code pointer.
For the stuff regarding extending the Drawing Layer implementation of images I 
am not the expert.
For the stuff in Writer, e.g. macro functionality for Writer images, I need to 
have a look into the code. I do not have the information at hand as was not 
involved in the implementation and the maintaince of these functionalities.





This lost work mainly covers something like you Regina had done. It summarized
all the features of the Writer implementation which are currently not
available in the Drawing Layer implementation. It also contained some planning
of the corresponding implementation. But, it is lost and needs to be done again.



I'm not Regina, but my question is still valid : if I had some taks list, or
some pointers in the code, it could reduce the time to search, and reinvent the
wheel.

Could you propose us some fast tasks list, or anything like a description ... or
... ?



I have to admit again that I do not have such a list of issues/tasks at hand. I 
even do not know, if certain issues/tasks exists.


I think the work which Regina started in the wiki is a good beginning.
If I would had time, I would look in the user interface (the format dialogs) of 
the Writer images in order to figure out what is possible here. Then I would 
compare it this the functionality of Drawing Layer images. I would write down, 
what is not possible or in a different way.
One example would be the border lines which are possible for Writer images which 
are not possible for Drawing Layer images.
Afterwards, I would had a deeper look into the ODF of Writer images and Drawing 
Layer images to find further stuff which is possible for Writer images and are 
not possible in Drawing Layer images. When I am remembering it correct there is 
also stuff which in Writer images and Drawing Layer images which are using the 
same ODF feature, but in some different way - e.g. border distance.
Based on a hopefully complete list of features missing at the Drawing Layer 
implementation from the point of view from the Writer implementation, I would 
look at the code details in order to figure out what needs to be implemented for 
the Drawing Layer images. Here Armin's expertise would come into the game.


Best regards, Oliver.

Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-09 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 08.05.2012 23:20, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Eric,

eric b schrieb:

Hi,


[..]

I'm not Regina, but my question is still valid : if I had some taks
list, or some pointers in the code, it could reduce the time to search,
and reinvent the wheel.

Could you propose us some fast tasks list, or anything like a
description ... or ... ?


I think, first there should be the central code design decision, whether to drop
Writer pictures.

If yes, a plan for transition is needed.

A first step in that transition might be, to allow the user to insert a picture
as Draw-picture from file into Writer, so that the indirect way over Draw is no
longer needed. That can be done with a new dialog for example.



I am not sure about how the present to our standard users that she/he could 
insert two types of images in the Writer.
Armin also mentioned that it may be a solution to provide a rotation function 
for Writer images. When the user activates this function the Writer image could 
be converted to a Drawing Layer images after the user has been ask in a dialog. 
This dialog could then mention also the drawbacks (missing/lost features) of 
such a conversion.



A next step might be to implement hyperlinks for drawing objects. That is a
missing feature in Draw too.



Yes, this is also a missing feature for Drawing Layer objects in Writer which 
needs to be implemented.


Best regards, Oliver.

Issues about the wiki

Hi.

I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.

I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
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http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
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a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
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For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

Re: Issues about the wiki

Sorry,

I've posted this issue before reading the other messages. There's another
topic open about this issue.

2012/5/9 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org

 Hi.

 I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

 I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
 from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
 which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.

 I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

 Thanks in advance.

 --
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729

 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher




-- 
Paulo de Souza Lima
Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

[WWW] Update MD5 page

2012-05-09 Thread FR web forum

Bonjour,

Somebody to update this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/md5sums/index.html 
And adding MD5 checksum for 3.4 release

Thank you

Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API

2012-05-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak



On 05/07/2012 10:08 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:

On 5/7/2012 20:02, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


I owe you one, for the help your (on-line) book provided, when I was 
writing the temporary GUI for the new encoding feature:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:TJFrazier/Encryption

I might never have found the Config Provider without the magic word in 
your example: com.sun.star.comp. It seems that comp. is not listed 
as a module under c.s.s., nor have I seen it mentioned in the Dev 
Guide. But it works.


And this is why I like open source and sharing my work oh, and when 
others share their work as well. So, thanks for the thanks and thanks 
for posting your work.


--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: [WWW] Update MD5 page

2012-05-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti


FR web forum wrote:

Somebody to update this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/md5sums/index.html
And adding MD5 checksum for 3.4 release


The 3.4.0 checksums page is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
If there are any links to the old page around (quite possible), they 
should be modified to point to the 3.4.0 page.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [WWW] Update MD5 page

2012-05-09 Thread FR web forum

The 3.4.0 checksums page is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html

OK I will change the target from french download page
Thanks

Why is creating pack sets so slow?


I would like to share some numbers (and some rants) with you.

Now that the release is done, I looked a little closer at why the
creation of pack sets takes so long (the things that are created in 
main/instsetoo_native).  Here are some numbers for the

creation of the archive on Windows7.  The absolute numbers are
entirely unrepresentative but I think they illustrate the general
problem.

The whole process of creating the archive pack set took 5 minutes and
29 seconds (=329s).  This includes:

- unzipping of 61 archives: 42s

- copying of 3014 files to temporary directory: 105s

- changing access privileges of files in temp. directory: 79s

- creating the archive pack set: 31s

- deletion of temporary files: 7s


I think that everything except the 31s for creating the actual archive
is not really necessary.  42s+105s+79s+7s=233s or 71% out of the
total of 329s are spent on unzipping archives that have been created
earlier in the build process and on copying files to yet another
directory that have already been copied (delivered) once or twice into
main/solver/.

A lot of time could be saved if

a) we would not create zip files in some modules (like helpcontent2)
just to unpack them (before the packing them again into the final
archive.)

b) our modules would deliver files to places that could directly be
used in the final packaging.  (Which, as I thought, was one of the key
ideas of the new gbuild system.  What became of that?)


I know that it will not really be that simple.  Localization files for
example can not be copied into their final place for all languages at
the same time.


I hope that I will find the time to come up with some concrete ideas
of how to improve the current system (I have no intention to completely
rewrite it).

Comments, suggestions and explanations (about the status quo) are welcome.

Andre

Errors mirroring legacy OOo

Peter, do you have any ideas on this problem?

-Rob

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Carsten Otto
o...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Any news?

 On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 10:28:37AM +0200, Carsten Otto wrote:
 Dear whoever reads this,

 I experience problems when mirroring from the (old) openoffice archive.
 The contact address t...@openoffice.org is not valid anymore (see
 below), so I hope this is the place to reach someone who can fix the
 problem or tell us what to do.

 Diagnostic-code: smtp;550 Apache OpenOffice no longer relays openoffice.org
  mail.  See
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#legacy-openofficeorg-lists

 Thanks,
 Carsten

 Original message:
 -
 Hi,

 the following error occurs when synchronizing with
 rsync://rsync.services.openoffice.org/openoffice-extended/ whenever this
 resolves to 212.101.4.244.

 Bye,
 Carsten

 - Forwarded message from cars...@c-otto.de -

 Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 10:17:54 +0200 (CEST)
 From: cars...@c-otto.de
 To: datafe...@ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
 Subject: [ftpsync-openoffice-ftp@ftp] (25137) rsync ERROR on 
 2012.05.07-10:17:54

 @ERROR: chroot failed
 rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1524) 
 [Receiver=3.0.7]


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Re: Hi I hava a question about how to use VBA language on the Linux

2012-05-09 Thread 史周波

Hi Alex，

thank you very much for your answer.

Regards
Robertzhou

于 2012年05月04日 21:26, Alexander Thurgood 写道:
 Le 04/05/12 10:26, 史周波 a écrit :

 Hi Robert,

 Hi all,
 I am researching how port the App for windows to Linux.
 I meet a question about how to use the VBA language in AOO on the Linux?
 The short answer is : you can't.
 The long answer is that you will have to rewrite your VBA in
 StarOffice/OOo Basic, the included Basic programming language (and API)
 that comes with AOOo. Some of the structures and constructs are similar,
 but there are notable differences. There used to be a Basic Programmer's
 Guide available for download on the internet, but I don't know if it is
 still around now that the project has moved to Apache stewardship, i.e.
 I don't know if that material was included in the grant made by Oracle
 to the Apache foundation. Someone else here might be able to provide
 more insight.

 You can always take a look at the built- in help, it has a chapter or
 three on programming with OOoBasic.


 Alex

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 Way to go iamcat!

 Your brand and topnav are now in Traditional Chinese!

 On May 8, 2012, at 6:43 PM, imacat wrote:

 On 2012/05/09 09:26, imacat said:
 On 2012/05/09 03:00, Dave Fisher said:
 On May 8, 2012, at 11:34 AM, imacat wrote:
 On 2012/05/08 19:36, Rob Weir said:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 (3) both sites then get brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext which can be 
 customized to Chinese.

    Sorry I do not understand this part. ^^;  I added brand.mdtext and
 topnav.mdtext for both directories, but they does not work.  The page
 titles and navigations are not updated even ofter succeeding updates.
 Did I missed anything?

 4. Enter a JIRA issue requesting Infrastructure team to create a
 subdomain zh-tw.openoffice.org that points to content/zh-tw
   As they are merely redirection, I do not think it is necessary to
 create new virtual hosts only for redirection.
 Not a big deal to ask. What will users do? tw.openoffice.org and 
 cn.openoffice.org?
    I think zh-tw.openoffice.org and zh-cn.openoffice.org would be fine.
 ^_*'  Thank you.

    Sorry. ^^;  On a second thought, I think tw.openoffice.org and
 cn.openoffice.org would be better, in order to attract local community.
 Sorry for the trouble.

 We'll allow for all reasonable subdomains.

 I'll make the request tomorrow, I hope that zh-cn will be ready.

 I think that a similar request for pt-br / br makes sense.

 Here are the redirections:

 (1) tw.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
 (2) cn.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/
 (3) zh-tw.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
 (4) zh-cn.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/
 (5) zh.openoffice.org/new/zh_tw/ - www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/
 (6) zh.openoffice.org/new/zh_cn/ - www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/

 plus

 (7) br.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/pt-br/

 Anyone have other needed redirections?


Did anyone actually request a redirect for pt-br?

It would be good to understand the interest there a bit more.  Aside
from continental Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese, isn't it also
spoken in the Azores and Cape Verde?  Which version of AOO would they
use?  And what would make it easier for them to find?

 Regards,
 Dave



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Re: Issues about the wiki

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima
paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote:
 Hi.

 I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

 I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
 from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
 which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.


Note that we have two websites:

http://www.openoffice.org

and

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg

(When we graduate that second one will change to http://openoffice.apache.org)

So why two websites?  Why does this make sense?

Consider this pair of websites as well:

http://www.coca-cola.com/

and

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/

So the idea is that one website is public-facing, user-facing, about
the Apache OpenOffice product.

And the other is project-facing, about the project.  It is the website
(and associated CWiki) where we do the real work.

The user-facing website will have a lot of translated content.  The
project website will not.  With the user-facing website we should
spend some extra time to make sure it looks as good as it can.  With
the project website, we don't want it too look bad, of course.  But it
is a busy workshop, where things are changing fast.  We're pragmatic,
not pretty.  The Cwiki is a mess, but it works.

That is the kind of distinction we have between the two websites.

It is important to also note, that they are linked.  For example, on
the user-facing websites, when we talk about contributing to the
project, we link them to the project website.

-Rob


 I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

 Thanks in advance.

 --
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729

 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 however I wonder if
 the FOSS resources are being spread too thin.

The LO jihad should have thought about that before hearing the call of
sirens from Novell to fork. Sun refused Novell' s Go-OO OOXML patches
for a reason: you can't advance ODF adoption by embracing your
competitor's format, but of course Meeks disagrees, and OOXML support
was one of the 'highlights'  of Novell' s first Go-OO fork*.  Also,
Oracle had great plans for OO.o and its commercial cousin StarOffice,
in fact, I updated my copy of StarOffice 9 to Oracle Open Office
(the renamed StarOffice) and was positively impressed. Sadly it' s all
water under the bridge by now.

I hope Apache takes AOO where StarOffice was (in terms of corporate
adoption) and beyond...

Just my $0.02

FC
* 
http://slashdot.org/story/07/10/03/1212234/sun-refuses-lgpl-for-openoffice-novell-forks

Re: Introducing myself

Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:
 Hi.
 
 2012/5/8 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org
 
 Hello.

 My name is Paulo. I'm a Claudio and Albino's friend and I would like to
 help Apache OpenOffice project.


 Hello my friend, welcome! :)
 
 
 I'm not a developer, but I have some expertise in wikis (Mediawiki,
 Moinmoin, Trac), translations (I am a former translator for BrOffice
 Magazine and I helped to create contents for pt-br LibreOffice website and
 wiki), localization (pootle), websites, blogs, and documentation (many
 chapters of LibreOffice pt-br documentation have my contribution), etc.

 
 Paulo is one of the best I know how to work with the Wiki. It also speaks /
 reads English very well. I'm sure he will make great contributions.
 
 Best,
 Albino
 
Paulo, hello! It's good to see you here!

Louis

Re: Troll warning

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF Membership Committee takes a
look.

What are LO advocates doing on this list?. Just curious

http://webmink.com/2012/02/19/libreoffice-video/

Where it says OpenOffice's succesor, LibreOffice

Let me get this straight, the forkers destroyed StarOffice, spit
Oracle in the face then invited them for dinner (to join TDF), then
they get upset that Oracle does not comply with their demands, they
nevertheless go ahead with their fork, and when OpenOffice is donated
to Apache and continues having the brand recognition, the mind share
and the majority of downloads on the Windows platform, are we supposed
to play nice and friendly with people who can't promote their fork
without comparing themselves to Apache OO and some even spread lies
all the time?

Well, yes. We're supposed to be nice, even when others are spreading
FUD and trying to derail the project.

Of course, none of our saints, and even fewer of us are martyrs, so
individually there is only so much abuse anyone of us is going to put
up with. But as a project we must remain open and welcoming to all,
especially to LibreOffice volunteers.

That doesn't mean we need to agree with the FUD, or let misstatements
go unaddressed. It just means we need to handle it in a calm,
professional, non-argumentative way. For example, we can collect the
top-10 erroneous statements about AOO on the wiki and prepare a blog
post to respond to them.

And this is not just about being nice. This is also the most
pragmatic thing to do. There are a small number of active, vocal and
negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
the work we do here. They make a lot of noise, but 90% of their FUD
just expired when AOO 3.4 was released. And the remainder of their
FUD will expire in a week or two when Symphony is contributed to
Apache. So it is almost not worth arguing with them at this point,
since they are still fighting the last war. We need to move on, and
talk about AOO 4.0, and the things that will really excite our users.

-Rob

ZDNet and IDG pubs have as usual been playing their cards
predictably... suddenly everyone is anti-corporate and corporate
control of a project is evil.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/212578/4_reasons_to_try_libreoffice.html

Oracle's apparently profit-minded actions are part of the motivation
behind The Document Foundation's decision to fork OpenOffice, and they
are also a good reason to choose LibreOffice instead

(if profit bad? hear, hear, someone tell Novell and Meeks!, maybe
Novell can stop payments to Microsoft...)

Glyn Moody writes a story when he decries Apache's statement about
misinformation from the LO camp Leaving aside the rather catty remark
about the unwarranted spread of misinformation, there is a crucially
important point here.

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2011/10/libreoffice-openofficeorg-and-open-standard-office-suites/index.htm

And yet, he contributes to misinformation himself, by stating on the
same article that ...because Apache-licensed code requires copyright
assignment from coders, and LibreOffice doesn't.

He was corrected by Shane Curcuru, and had to strikeout the whole paragraph.

Another example:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386963,00.asp
If you're already using OpenOffice.org as an office suite, you owe it
to yourself to switch to LibreOffice.

This is what Apache has to deal with...

FC
--
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell

Re: Troll warning

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
  If you forward me links I'll make sure the TDF Membership Committee takes 
  a look.
 
  What are LO advocates doing on this list?. Just curious
 
  http://webmink.com/2012/02/19/libreoffice-video/
 
  Where it says OpenOffice's succesor, LibreOffice
 
  Let me get this straight, the forkers destroyed StarOffice, spit
  Oracle in the face then invited them for dinner (to join TDF), then
  they get upset that Oracle does not comply with their demands, they
  nevertheless go ahead with their fork, and when OpenOffice is donated
  to Apache and continues having the brand recognition, the mind share
  and the majority of downloads on the Windows platform, are we supposed
  to  play nice and friendly with people who can't promote their fork
  without comparing themselves to Apache OO and some even spread lies
  all the time?
 
 
 Well, yes.  We're supposed to be nice, even when others are spreading
 FUD and trying to derail the project.
 
 Of course, none of our saints, and even fewer of us are martyrs, so
 individually there is only so much abuse anyone of us is going to put
 up with.  But as a project we must remain open and welcoming to all,
 especially to LibreOffice volunteers.
 
 That doesn't mean we need to agree with the FUD, or let misstatements
 go unaddressed.  It just means we need to handle it in a calm,
 professional, non-argumentative way.  For example, we can collect the
 top-10 erroneous statements about AOO on the wiki and prepare a blog
 post to respond to them.
 
 And this is not just about being nice.  This is also the most
 pragmatic thing to do.   There are a small number of active, vocal and
 negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
 the work we do here.  

That cuts both ways.


snip

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 here are a small number of active, vocal and
 negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
 the work we do here.  They make a lot of noise, but 90% of their FUD
 just expired when AOO 3.4 was released.  And the remainder of their
 FUD will expire in a week or two when Symphony is contributed to
 Apache.   So it is almost not worth arguing with them at this point,
 since they are still fighting the last war.  We need to move on, and
 talk about AOO 4.0, and the things that will really excite our users.


Agree wholeheartedly.

FC

Re: [Extension] IBM Connections Extension is ready.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
 Hi there,

 On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 17:55 +0800, Liu Da Li wrote:
 The IBM Connections Extensions lets you to connect IBM Connections easily

        It sounds rather interesting.

 IBM Connections
 http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/products/connections/is social
 software for business that lets you access everyone in your
 professional network, including your colleagues, customers, and partners.

        I wasn't aware of this, but it sounds powerful, is there a publicly
 estimated user-base for the product ? If the connector is small enough;
 given that it's widely useful - I'd be interested in the possibility of
 including it into LibreOffice: particularly with a view to putting a
 number of these connectors side-by-side and factoring commonality out of
 them to share to reduce size/overlap.

        That requires a free-software license though; is the plan to release
 the code at some stage ?


No current plans to make source code available.  It is a
free-of-charge extension for OpenOffice.  I don't believe we have
tested with LibreOffice.  You can see the license details when you
install.  Standard IBM license for non-warrantied software.

-Rob

        Thanks,

                Michael,

 PS. Amusingly, I got a Microsoft / Windows Azure advert as I
    downloaded it :-)
 --
 michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-09 Thread Ochirov Nikolay

Hi all!
Again, it doesn't work

Here's the output gdb:
...
0x0349594f in?? () From / opt / openoffice.org / ure / lib /
bootstrap.uno.so

I rebuilt the module stoc as Eric suggested:
   ooo cd / main / stoc
   mv unxlng *. pro unxlng *. pro_back
   build debug = t

And if I understand correctly, received new libraries i copied to the /opt/
openoffice.org/basis.3/programm/libs
Maybe I did something wrong again?
Regards,
Nikolay.

2012/5/9 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org

 Hi Nikolay,

 On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 11:21:03PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
  Thank you for help, Ariel!
  Your hint is very usefull! I didn't clean, yes)
  And one more question if i may:
  Which module should be rebuilt in order to get the debugging symbols for
  bootstrap.uno.so?

 For modules not converted to gbuild, you can search the library in
 module/OUT/lib

 For example:

 ]$ cd trunk/main/
 ]$ find -name bootstrap.uno.so
 ./solver/340/unxlngx6/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 ./stoc/unxlngx6/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 ./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/de/
 openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 ./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/es/
 openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so
 ./instsetoo_native/unxlngx6/OpenOffice/installed/install/en-US/
 openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so


 The answer is module stoc.

 Modules converted to gbuild don't generate files inside the module
 folder (only logs, if you built with --html). I guess that here you can
 find the pattern module/Library_LIBNAME.mk

 For example, if you want to find vbaswobj.uno.so, strip all prefixes and
 suffixes from the library name (lib, uno, so) and search for

 Library_vbaswobj.mk

 ]$ find -name Library_vbaswobj.mk
 ./sw/Library_vbaswobj.mk


 It is built in sw.

 Hope this helps :)


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina

Re: debugging with gdb

2012-05-09 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi Nikolay,

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:07:49PM +0400, Ochirov Nikolay wrote:
 Hi all!
 Again, it doesn't work
 
 Here's the output gdb:
 ...
 0x0349594f in?? () From / opt / openoffice.org / ure / lib /
 bootstrap.uno.so
 
 I rebuilt the module stoc as Eric suggested:
ooo cd / main / stoc
mv unxlng *. pro unxlng *. pro_back
build debug = t

Don't miss the dbglevel if you want extra debug code (usually ifdefined)

build debug=true dbglevel=3

 
 And if I understand correctly, received new libraries i copied to the /opt/
 openoffice.org/basis.3/programm/libs

this library belongs to the URE:

[ariel@localhost ~]$ locate bootstrap.uno.so
/opt/openoffice.org/ure/lib/bootstrap.uno.so


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Introducing myself

2012-05-09 Thread Claudio Filho

Hi

2012/5/8 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org:
 I'm not a developer, but I have some expertise in wikis (Mediawiki,
 Moinmoin, Trac), translations (I am a former translator for BrOffice
 Magazine and I helped to create contents for pt-br LibreOffice website and
 wiki), localization (pootle), websites, blogs, and documentation (many
 chapters of LibreOffice pt-br documentation have my contribution), etc.

Paulo, i wish to organize the mediawiki like we did in LibO. As we
spoke (in pt-br), is easy to take the content from a place and put in
other, organizing it while does this work. But now, the challenge is
greater. I already did the support for translation, but need to
continue the work.

What you think?

Best,
Claudio

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Jagielski


On May 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, drew wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 There are a small number of active, vocal and
 negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
 the work we do here.  
 
 That cuts both ways.

That's true... In general though, I've found that if people
mention OpenOffice, that many LO-related people will immediately
jump in and turn the conversation towards LO (for example,
someone will post or tweet something about OpenOffice and
they will immediately reply Hey, what about LibreOffice),
but I don't see nearly that amount of the reverse behavior.

I guess partly that's to be expected...

Re: Are there 3 wiki websites?

On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:14 +0800, Zhe Liu wrote:
 2012/5/8 shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com:
  hi,
 
  Are there 3 wiki websites? What is the difference?
  1. http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/
 It's not AOO wiki.

but it was and is part of the OpenOffice.org community.

//drew

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread imacat

Actually, I heard people very excited, talking about the release of
Apache OpenOffice 3.4.  I suppose I do not need to care about
LibreOffice anymore.  Someone asked me the question:  What about
LibreOffice?  I have nothing to answer.  I think it reveals the
pressure on the LibreOffice side.

As I said, the only real problem we had was that we have no release
yet.  Once we have our first release, the problem is gone.

On 2012/05/09 23:18, Jim Jagielski said:
 
 On May 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, drew wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 There are a small number of active, vocal and
 negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
 the work we do here.  

 That cuts both ways.
 
 That's true... In general though, I've found that if people
 mention OpenOffice, that many LO-related people will immediately
 jump in and turn the conversation towards LO (for example,
 someone will post or tweet something about OpenOffice and
 they will immediately reply Hey, what about LibreOffice),
 but I don't see nearly that amount of the reverse behavior.
 
 I guess partly that's to be expected...

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Re: [Extension] IBM Connections Extension is ready.

2012-05-09 Thread Michael Meeks


On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:04 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 No current plans to make source code available.  It is a
 free-of-charge extension for OpenOffice.  I don't believe we have
 tested with LibreOffice.  You can see the license details when you
 install.  Standard IBM license for non-warrantied software.

Oh well, worth a try :-)

Thanks,

Michael.

-- 
michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Re: Introducing myself

2012/5/9 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com

 Hi

 2012/5/8 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org:
  I'm not a developer, but I have some expertise in wikis (Mediawiki,
  Moinmoin, Trac), translations (I am a former translator for BrOffice
  Magazine and I helped to create contents for pt-br LibreOffice website
 and
  wiki), localization (pootle), websites, blogs, and documentation (many
  chapters of LibreOffice pt-br documentation have my contribution), etc.

 Paulo, i wish to organize the mediawiki like we did in LibO. As we
 spoke (in pt-br), is easy to take the content from a place and put in
 other, organizing it while does this work. But now, the challenge is
 greater. I already did the support for translation, but need to
 continue the work.

 What you think?


Hi.

Just like I've posted in another thread, I think it's needed to decide what
wiki to work on. Should we build a new structure for AOO in Cwiki, or
should we maintain Mediawiki and recycle the information in it? I like to
think a little far ahead: What do people expect to find in the wiki? Based
on this question, I would choose Mediawiki as the main platform because of
their semantic capabilities. I just don't know if Cwiki has those
capabilities, also. Maybe someone more familiar with that tool could help
me.


 Best,
 Claudio


Cheers.

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Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

Re: Issues about the wiki

2012/5/9 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org



...


 Note that we have two websites:

 http://www.openoffice.org

 and

 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg

 (When we graduate that second one will change to
 http://openoffice.apache.org)

 So why two websites?  Why does this make sense?

 Consider this pair of websites as well:

 http://www.coca-cola.com/

 and

 http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/

 So the idea is that one website is public-facing, user-facing, about
 the Apache OpenOffice product.

 And the other is project-facing, about the project.  It is the website
 (and associated CWiki) where we do the real work.

 The user-facing website will have a lot of translated content.  The
 project website will not.  With the user-facing website we should
 spend some extra time to make sure it looks as good as it can.  With
 the project website, we don't want it too look bad, of course.  But it
 is a busy workshop, where things are changing fast.  We're pragmatic,
 not pretty.  The Cwiki is a mess, but it works.

 That is the kind of distinction we have between the two websites.

 It is important to also note, that they are linked.  For example, on
 the user-facing websites, when we talk about contributing to the
 project, we link them to the project website.

 -Rob


Thanks, Rob.

It seems clearer to me now.


-- 
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Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

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the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openoffice-linux32-nightly

2012-05-09 Thread Andrew Rist




On 5/9/2012 2:29 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Hi,

I just finished a build on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12.04 32-Bit 
Linux.  Not a single build problem.  Even the linear programming 
solver works.


I am a bit surprised (in a positive way) that it compiled so smoothly. 
After all, the 32-Bit buildbot (which, I think, uses the same system) 
has still to see its first successful build.


By the way, I used the default bfd linker (/usr/bin/ld - ld.bfd)

Can you provide a more thorough 'build recipe'?

base OS - Ubuntu 12.04 32-Bit
additional packages - ?
additional perl modules - ?
build script/commands - ?




Regards,
Andre

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Dotan Cohen

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:21 AM, l x lxnice...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to
 join ooo-users mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work
 in the future.

 As long as you don't want to turn AOO into Symphony, it's fine with
 me. In other words... you have to keep in mind that AOO users come
 from an OpenOffice.org background, and are used to its user interface.
 If they liked Symphony more they'd be Symphony users, not OO.o

 Translation: any changes to the AOO UI should be incremental and
 carefully thought and a radical redesign avoided at all costs.

 And for heaven's sake, do not repeat Microsoft's Ribbon UI disaster.
 CUA exists for a reason. :)

 FC


Hello, Xin. I went from OpenOffice.org to Symphony, then to
LibreOffice. Symphony had the best UI by far, even on my KDE setup.
The reason that I went to LibreOffice after a short stint with
Symphony was due to document compatibility issues, specifically
opening encrypted ODS documents and MS Office compatibility.

So you were responsible for the part of Symphony that I liked best,
and that I miss! I suspect that other's fear of changing the AOO UI is
due to the changes that Microsoft made to their office suit, not due
to IBM's changes to OO.o. I encourage you to continue your work on the
UI, quite in the direction that you took Symphony.

I wonder why you choose to associate with AOO as opposed to
LibreOffice. I could make much speculation, but rather than do such I
would love to hear your reasons. I am excited about the latest AOO
release, but I see the pace of LibreOffice development and that is
very motivating. I do not see AOO and LO as rivals, actually I think
that competition in the FOSS office suites will push them both to
develop better than they would have independently, however I wonder if
the FOSS resources are being spread too thin.


-- 
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Re: Are there 3 wiki websites?

2012-05-09 Thread Shane Curcuru


Excellent question!

On 2012-05-08 2:03 AM, shzh zhao wrote:

hi,

Are there 3 wiki websites? What is the difference?
1. http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/


This is not part of the Apache OpenOffice project.  Eric b has already 
noted it's from the OOo4Kids project, which is a separate organization 
that builds software based on OOo (and we hope in the future based on AOO).



2. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/


This is part of the Apache OpenOffice project.  It is the old OOo wiki 
from the Sun/Oracle days, and includes all the old content, and is 
partly updated to reflect some of the new development happening on 
future AOO releases.



3. https://cwiki.apache.org


This is an official wiki used by many different Apache projects.  A 
better link for Apache OpenOffice podling is:


  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

Note: In general, if the domain name of the website does not end in 
.apache.org, then it is *not* part of any Apache project.  The 
.openoffice.org domain name is one of the very few exceptions; this 
domain *is* part of the Apache OpenOffice podling.


- Shane

Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
but also very quiet.

The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
time to get the buildbots running.

So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
possible.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Troll warning

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:18 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 On May 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, drew wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
  There are a small number of active, vocal and
  negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and
  the work we do here.  
  
  That cuts both ways.
 
 That's true... In general though, I've found that if people
 mention OpenOffice, that many LO-related people will immediately
 jump in and turn the conversation towards LO (for example,
 someone will post or tweet something about OpenOffice and
 they will immediately reply Hey, what about LibreOffice),
 but I don't see nearly that amount of the reverse behavior.
 
 I guess partly that's to be expected...
 
Hi Jim 

IMO 'back biting', is what I would call this, is easily the most
destructive behavior that a person can partake in, eroding civility
amongst voluntary associations, if not kept in check. 

It really is something that we all need to watch out for, directly. 

I will try to refrain myself, the only person I can actually control ;)
and I think most of the folks I talk with on a regular basis on this
list and across the different projects (LO) lists do also - there are
lots of 'extended associates', users, that will always do some of what
you describe, it will likely even increase from them here over the short
run, my guess anyway, but I think the core folks will not.

On the other hand, there are two successful groups of people here, L and
O, and there lots of Alpha's required to form successful groups on the
scale of these groups...

//drew

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 12:46 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.
 
 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.
 
 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 

Oh that is big yes - Thanks Andrew, you really did go above and beyond
more then once.

//drew

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

Andrew has been absolutely critical and rock steady!

It was great to meet him at Apachecon NA last November!

Best Regards,
Dave

On May 9, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.
 
 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.
 
 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell

The important thing is to maintain a generosity towards others and not to be 
drawn into argument with them about the pros and cons of their/our choices.  
The situation is likely to proceed to one of two directions: either the 
codebases and the features start to diverge dramatically, in which case they 
move away and any other product becomes sufficiently different that there need 
be no conflict, or there is some for of reconcilliation/amalgamation, in which 
case all have to work together, so the less aggravation that has arisen before 
that, the better.

It is a generous thing to be able to agree to differ.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

Re: Troll warning

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 The important thing is to maintain a generosity towards others and not to be 
 drawn into argument with them about the pros and cons of their/our choices.  
 The situation is likely to proceed to one of two directions: either the 
 codebases and the features start to diverge dramatically, in which case they 
 move away and any other product becomes sufficiently different that there 
 need be no conflict, or there is some for of reconcilliation/amalgamation, in 
 which case all have to work together, so the less aggravation that has arisen 
 before that, the better.

 It is a generous thing to be able to agree to differ.


But what about when their preference is that you don't exist at all?
For example, when a LO leader comes onto the Apache list and says that
he would like us to fail and that he wants to put us out of our
misery, then do we treat that as a mere difference of opinion?  I'm
happy to be generous when it is a matter of taste, Coke versus Pepsi
or whatever.  But when someone is denying our right to exist and
taking active steps to cause our votes to fail, etc., then I think
that is something else.

We're called on to be generous and professional.  We're not called on
to be martyrs.

-Rob

 --
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

NewWikiMainPage

2012-05-09 Thread HKuerbiss


Hello,

has anyone of you read the main page in the last year-and-a-half? NEWS 
tells us about things that (possibly) happened in autumn 2010. The link 
to the 'old wiki main page' looks like a joke to me: the current main 
page really seems old enough ...


Maybe there is a new wiki I did not find - if that is so, you better 
switch this one off.


If you feel that I'm completely wrong, please let me know.

Yours
H. Kürbiß, Germany

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Donald Harbison

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.

 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.

 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.


+1M !



 Regards,

 -Rob

Re: Troll warning

2012-05-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Wed, 9 May 2012 13:01:19 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
  The important thing is to maintain a generosity towards others and not to 
  be drawn into argument with them about the pros and cons of their/our 
  choices.  The situation is likely to proceed to one of two directions: 
  either the codebases and the features start to diverge dramatically, in 
  which case they move away and any other product becomes sufficiently 
  different that there need be no conflict, or there is some for of 
  reconcilliation/amalgamation, in which case all have to work together, so 
  the less aggravation that has arisen before that, the better.
 
  It is a generous thing to be able to agree to differ.
 
 
 But what about when their preference is that you don't exist at all?
 For example, when a LO leader comes onto the Apache list and says that
 he would like us to fail and that he wants to put us out of our
 misery, then do we treat that as a mere difference of opinion?  I'm
 happy to be generous when it is a matter of taste, Coke versus Pepsi
 or whatever.  But when someone is denying our right to exist and
 taking active steps to cause our votes to fail, etc., then I think
 that is something else.
 
 We're called on to be generous and professional.  We're not called on
 to be martyrs.
 
 -Rob

You simply reply You are entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong! and 
walk away.  If he is obstructive/agressive on list, he should be banned.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

Re: Troll warning

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 13:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
  The important thing is to maintain a generosity towards others and not to 
  be drawn into argument with them about the pros and cons of their/our 
  choices.  The situation is likely to proceed to one of two directions: 
  either the codebases and the features start to diverge dramatically, in 
  which case they move away and any other product becomes sufficiently 
  different that there need be no conflict, or there is some for of 
  reconcilliation/amalgamation, in which case all have to work together, so 
  the less aggravation that has arisen before that, the better.
 
  It is a generous thing to be able to agree to differ.
 
 
 But what about when their preference is that you don't exist at all?
 For example, when a LO leader comes onto the Apache list and says that
 he would like us to fail and that he wants to put us out of our
 misery, then do we treat that as a mere difference of opinion?  I'm
 happy to be generous when it is a matter of taste, Coke versus Pepsi
 or whatever.  But when someone is denying our right to exist and
 taking active steps to cause our votes to fail, etc., then I think
 that is something else.
 
 We're called on to be generous and professional.  We're not called on
 to be martyrs.

True - and you have made your point, IMO, a couple of times now -
regarding that piece of email. There are no martyrs here my friend.

//drew

Re: NewWikiMainPage

Hi.

That's what I was talking about when I mentioned the old wiki content.

Cheers.

2012/5/9 HKuerbiss hkuerb...@web.de

 Hello,

 has anyone of you read the main page in the last year-and-a-half? NEWS
 tells us about things that (possibly) happened in autumn 2010. The link to
 the 'old wiki main page' looks like a joke to me: the current main page
 really seems old enough ...

 Maybe there is a new wiki I did not find - if that is so, you better
 switch this one off.

 If you feel that I'm completely wrong, please let me know.

 Yours
 H. Kürbiß, Germany




-- 
Paulo de Souza Lima
Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher

[WWW] Some issues translating download/index.html

2012-05-09 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile


Hi there,

We know AOO website is not set up to be (easily?) localized, but we've
been doing our best with the guys on the Spanish mailing list to update
the Spanish NL site, mainly translating /adapting the main English site.

I've been trying to translate the download page, you can find it at
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/es/descargar/index.html
So far I see two (main) issues:

* I had to make a copy of exceptions.css to adapt the cachedimages/*.png
  URLs

* we want the look  feel and the system detection, but not the
  language detection: the user is on the Spanish site, the download must
  be a Spanish package. I hacked this by adding a variable that is set
  on the localized index.html via setLanguage(es); then this variable
  is used instead of navigator.language. I guess that instead of this,
  the script code could detect if it is invoked from /download/index.html
  or /$LANG/xxx/[.../]index..html
  Is this solvable? Anyone with a better idea?
  The page looks like:
  http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/www-es-descargar.png
  with this patch applied::
  http://people.apache.org/~arielch/patches/localize-download-index-html.patch


In a perfect situation, the site should be localizable with PO files,
and no need to hack stuff... but we are far from this situation.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Introduction

2012-05-09 Thread Giuseppe Castagno


Ciao Pedro,

sorry for the delay but I first had to build AOO, just to be 
re-acquainted with it


On 05/01/2012 04:32 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Benvenuto Giuseppe!

On 05/01/12 06:25, Giuseppe Castagno wrote:

Hi there,

a few words to introduce myself.

My name is Giuseppe Castagno, I live in very small town near Turin,
Italy.


...



Wow.. and I have to say that I was thinking just yesterday how
good it would be to have *you* around ;).

I am relatively new to the project but I started with some code
you wrote. I did some small changes to the icc module, mostly to
change the license to Apache License 2, since using copyleft for
the icc profile is simply a bad idea.

I have a wishlist for that module:

1 - We need to update SampleICC: the original version is just too
old and is not available online anymore. Maybe the SampleICC
developers may be interested in having the ICC profile as a
contributed sample.


I think this is the current:

http://www.color.org/sampleicc.xalter

It moved to 1.6.4, but I don't know if the color profile we need 
changed, for this we need to have a look at the relevant PDF/A ISO Norms 
(was ISO 19005-1:2005 plus ISO 19005-1:2005/Cor.1:2007(E)).

A quick look at the ISO web tells me nothing changed wrt PDF/A-1[ab]

That is: if the color profile didn't change I don't think there's a need
to update it.



2- We don't really need to have the icc profile built every time and
we don't have the silly limitations imposed by the GPL so I
was thinking of moving the icc profile generation out of the build
(maybe to tools) and have the generated profile directly in vcl.


I agree, though I'm not sure how to implement it ATM.



3- It would be great if people could download and use the
Adobe profile as an alternative (the stax module gives a similar
option).


mm, this can be changed, putting the color profile in configuration and 
giving the possibility to add a new one in some way (adding through an 
extension mechanism may be?), or do you have something else in mind?


Of course changes to vcl and/or standard configuration may be needed,
because currently the sRGB profile is hard-coded into vcl.

Just some free-running ideas, though.



If you feel like working on any of that do let me know and I
will help review/commit it. Also, while not strictly mandatory,
you are welcome to submit an iCLA:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf

It's not as demanding as the previous SUN agreement but
it is important if you want to become a committer later on.


submitted to the mail address show in the ICLA itself.

--
Kind Regards,
Giuseppe Castagno
Acca Esse http://www.acca-esse.eu
giuseppe.castagno at acca-esse.eu

RE: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

+1

-Original Message-
From: Donald Harbison [mailto:dpharbi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:17
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.

 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.

 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.

+1M !

 Regards,

 -Rob

Re: [ML] Please state that the mail was approved and that the author is not subscribed to the ML

2012-05-09 Thread Hagar Delest


Le Wed, 9 May 2012 00:53:37 +0100, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com a écrit :


Look for a header saying:
Delivered-To:   moderator for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
or
Delivered-To:   moderator for ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

Messages with that header have been moderated and your client can flag them.


There is a bug in Thunderbird and it cannot handle 2 headers with the same 
name. So Thunderbird users can't use the filters.
The link to the bug has been posted twice on this list already.

Hagar

Shout Out for our Mentors!

2012-05-09 Thread Donald Harbison

While we're in the honeymoon period following our successful launch of
Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to give a special SHOUT OUT! to our mentors.
We wouldn't be here at this point in the project's development without your
help and counsel. You agreed to take this podling on as huge and gnarly as
you knew it would be. OpenOffice is the largest end user-facing project in
the history of ASF. Nobody blinked. Your support has been stalwart and
steadfast. Lastly, your confidence in us, that we would eventually get most
of it right, even if we messed up some things, was most appreciated. It's
been a challenge for you, but I trust you are finding it rewarding as we
pass this first major milestone of a successful Apache Release, and look
forward to building the most successful end user productivity software
suite in the history of Apache, for the public good, of course!

Thank You!...and you know who you are, so I'm not naming names. :))

Re: svn commit: r1336367 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer

Get rid of the BOM at the front!



- Original Message -
 From: r4z...@apache.org r4z...@apache.org
 To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:39 PM
 Subject: svn commit: r1336367 - 
 /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 
 Author: r4zoli
 Date: Wed May  9 19:39:38 2012
 New Revision: 1336367
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336367view=rev
 Log:
 both converted to UTF-8 coding
 
 Modified:
     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 
 Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext?rev=1336367r1=1336366r2=1336367view=diff
 ==
 --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext (original)
 +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext Wed May  9 19:39:38 
 2012
 @@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 -divid:    topnava
 +ï»¿divid:    topnava
 
 - [Szoftver][m0]
 -- [Letöltés][m1]
 -- [Támogatás][m2]
 -- [Kiterjesztés][m3]
 -- [Fejlesztés][m4]
 -- [Fõbb területek][m5]
 -- [Nyelvi változatok][m6]
 +- [LetÃ¶ltÃ©s][m1]
 +- [TÃ¡mogatÃ¡s][m2]
 +- [KiterjesztÃ©s][m3]
 +- [FejlesztÃ©s][m4]
 +- [FÅbb terÃ¼ltek][m5]
 +- [Nyelvi vÃ¡ltozatok][m6]
 
 
 [m0]:      /product/index.html                        Apache OpenOffice 
 product description

Re: Handling of pictures in Writer

2012-05-09 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Am 08.05.12 13:12, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 07.05.2012 18:20, eric b wrote:

Le 7 mai 12 à 18:01, Regina Henschel a écrit :

Hi all,

Hi Regina,

user often ask why they cannot rotate pictures in Writer, e.g issue
3545.
There exists a tip to copy a picture from Draw to Writer, then it can be
rotated. But that Draw-picture is different from a Writer- picture.

I have made a table to collect the differences between
Writer-pictures and
Draw-pictures.

Thanks a lot !

FYI, there was a little mismatch with the issue number, and I fixed it
on the wiki

It is currently in my personal area on the Media-wiki. If you find it
useful
and you know a suitable place, please tell me where to put it.

I think it it the right location. Let's wait for other opinions though
...

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Regina/ComparisonWriterDrawPicture

That's a very good idea. As you probably read in the issue, I took
over the
task, and I'll use this wiki page to report any progress and step done.

The idea is, as discussed with Oliver and Armin, to reuse some Draw
features in
Writer, like (image rotation). There is a lot to do and any help is
welcome.

Armin's and my idea is mainly removing the Writer implementation for
images/pictures, introduce all its features missing in the Drawing Layer
implementation for images/pictures and use the Drawing Layer
implementation for images/pictures in Writer.
Our idea is quite old, but we never got the resources to work on it.
Unfortunately, all the work we had done in preparation is lost. This
lost work mainly covers something like you Regina had done. It
summarized all the features of the Writer implementation which are
currently not available in the Drawing Layer implementation. It also
contained some planning of the corresponding implementation. But, it is
lost and needs to be done again.

The work is not completely lost.
I have found the wiki page
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Unification_of_Graphic_Objects_and_Embedded_Objects

It contains more or less the summary of the ideas from Armin, Oliver
Specht, Henning Brinkmann and myself regarding our idea to remove the
Writer implementation for pictures/images/graphics and embedded object
in favor of the Drawing Layer implementations.

There are also given some details on the planned implementation.

Best regards, Oliver.

Current work in progress :

- I expermiented some hack (adding image Rotation), but something is
missing

- reading most of the Draw code.
- comparing Writer and Draw shells.

Long term plan :
Make it work.

Are you interested to share / contribute to the task with me ?

Regards,
Erid

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?



On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4z...@apache.org wrote:

 Author: r4zoli
 Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
 New Revision: 1336368
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368view=rev
 Log: (empty)
 
 Modified:
incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
 
 Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368r1=1336367r2=1336368view=diff
 ==
 --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
 +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 
 2012
 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
 -home:home
 -search:  keresés
 +ï»¿home: home
 +search:  keresÃ©s
 name: Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
 -tagline: (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
 +tagline: (incubating) | NyÃlt Ã©s ingyenes irodai programcsomag
 logo: AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
 domain:   www.openoffice.org
 divid:bannera
 announce: Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 announceurl:  /hu/aoo34.html
 -announcetip: Olvassa el a bejelentést
 +announcetip: Olvassa el a bejelentÃ©st
 \ No newline at end of file

Re: svn commit: r1336367 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext

This is the second time this mistake occurred.

Is it possible to filter this out in view.pm?

Regards,
Dave

On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 Get rid of the BOM at the front!
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: r4z...@apache.org r4z...@apache.org
 To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:39 PM
 Subject: svn commit: r1336367 - 
 /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 
 Author: r4zoli
 Date: Wed May  9 19:39:38 2012
 New Revision: 1336367
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336367view=rev
 Log:
 both converted to UTF-8 coding
 
 Modified:
 incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 
 Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext?rev=1336367r1=1336366r2=1336367view=diff
 ==
 --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext (original)
 +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext Wed May  9 
 19:39:38 
 2012
 @@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 -divid:topnava
 +ï»¿divid:topnava
 
 - [Szoftver][m0]
 -- [Letöltés][m1]
 -- [Támogatás][m2]
 -- [Kiterjesztés][m3]
 -- [Fejlesztés][m4]
 -- [Fõbb területek][m5]
 -- [Nyelvi változatok][m6]
 +- [LetÃ¶ltÃ©s][m1]
 +- [TÃ¡mogatÃ¡s][m2]
 +- [KiterjesztÃ©s][m3]
 +- [FejlesztÃ©s][m4]
 +- [FÅbb terÃ¼ltek][m5]
 +- [Nyelvi vÃ¡ltozatok][m6]
 
 
 [m0]:  /product/index.htmlApache OpenOffice 
 product description

Re: [WWW] Some issues translating download/index.html

2012-05-09 Thread Juergen Schmidt

On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 19:40, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 We know AOO website is not set up to be (easily?) localized, but we've
 been doing our best with the guys on the Spanish mailing list to update
 the Spanish NL site, mainly translating /adapting the main English site.
 
 I've been trying to translate the download page, you can find it at
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/es/descargar/index.html
 So far I see two (main) issues:
 
 * I had to make a copy of exceptions.css to adapt the cachedimages/*.png
 URLs
 
 * we want the look  feel and the system detection, but not the
 language detection: the user is on the Spanish site, the download must
 be a Spanish package. I hacked this by adding a variable that is set
 on the localized index.html via setLanguage(es); then this variable
 is used instead of navigator.language. I guess that instead of this,
 the script code could detect if it is invoked from /download/index.html
 or /$LANG/xxx/[.../]index..html
 Is this solvable? Anyone with a better idea?
 The page looks like:
 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/www-es-descargar.png
 with this patch applied::
 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/patches/localize-download-index-html.patch
 
 
 In a perfect situation, the site should be localizable with PO files,
 and no need to hack stuff... but we are far from this situation.
 
 

but it is worth to think in this direction and focus future work to this as 
well. 
I like this and will support all efforts going in this direction.

Juergen
 
 
 Regards
 -- 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Juergen Schmidt

On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 18:46, Rob Weir wrote:
 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.
 
 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA. That was just the beginning. From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about. Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.
 
 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.
 
 


+++1

Thanks
Juergen 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni


+1000 We wouldn't have made it without Andrew!

On 05/09/12 11:46, Rob Weir wrote:

As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
but also very quiet.

The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
time to get the buildbots running.

So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
possible.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Roberto Galoppini

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.

 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services,


Without his help we couldn't actually migrate 40,000 Extensions+Templates
users!
Thanks,

Roberto




 to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.

 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.

 Regards,

 -Rob


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Re: [WWW] Some issues translating download/index.html


On May 9, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:

 On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 19:40, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 We know AOO website is not set up to be (easily?) localized, but we've
 been doing our best with the guys on the Spanish mailing list to update
 the Spanish NL site, mainly translating /adapting the main English site.
 
 I've been trying to translate the download page, you can find it at
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/es/descargar/index.html
 So far I see two (main) issues:
 
 * I had to make a copy of exceptions.css to adapt the cachedimages/*.png
 URLs
 
 * we want the look  feel and the system detection, but not the
 language detection: the user is on the Spanish site, the download must
 be a Spanish package. I hacked this by adding a variable that is set
 on the localized index.html via setLanguage(es); then this variable
 is used instead of navigator.language. I guess that instead of this,
 the script code could detect if it is invoked from /download/index.html
 or /$LANG/xxx/[.../]index..html
 Is this solvable? Anyone with a better idea?
 The page looks like:
 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/www-es-descargar.png
 with this patch applied::
 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/patches/localize-download-index-html.patch
 
 
 In a perfect situation, the site should be localizable with PO files,
 and no need to hack stuff... but we are far from this situation.
 
 
 
 but it is worth to think in this direction and focus future work to this as 
 well. 
 I like this and will support all efforts going in this direction.

So do I, the language in brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext should also be in 
Pootle.

I could see creating an index.mdtext, download.mdtext, other.mdtext and 
checksums.mdtext that could also have NL phrases from Pootle.

These then are specially processed by lib/view.pm to include the release map 
and the mdtext to produce standard pages.

Perhaps these are all stubs and lib/view.pm would know how to read a file of 
phrases.

Here are our current patterns in lib/path.pm that choose both html skeleton and 
view.pm procedure.

our @patterns = (
[qr!doctype.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = doctype.html 
}],
[qr!brand.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = brand.html }],
[qr!footer.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = footer.html }],
[qr!topnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = navigator.html 
}],
[qr!leftnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = 
navigator.html }],
[qr!rightnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = 
navigator.html }],
[qr!\.mdtext$!, single_narrative = { template = 
single_narrative.html }],
[qr!\.html$!, html_page = { template = html_page.html }],
[qr!\.htm$!, html_page = { template = html_page.html }],
) ;

Regards,
Dave

 
 Juergen
 
 
 Regards
 -- 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)


And another +1 from me.

Thanks a lot for your big work.

And it was a presure for me when we met last year.

Marcus



Am 05/09/2012 07:17 PM, schrieb Donald Harbison:

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote:


As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
but also very quiet.

The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
time to get the buildbots running.

So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
possible.



+1M !




Regards,

-Rob

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

2012-05-09 Thread Reizinger Zoltán


I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
What is the BOM?

In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the 
Hungarian site to useful format.

I will stop doing it.

But how can I proceed to do it?

Thanks,
Zoltan

2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:

Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?



On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4z...@apache.org wrote:


Author: r4zoli
Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
New Revision: 1336368

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368view=rev
Log: (empty)

Modified:
incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368r1=1336367r2=1336368view=diff
==
--- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
+++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 19:42:28 
2012
@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
-home:  home
-search:keresés
+ï»¿home:   home
+search:keresÃ©s
name:   Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
-tagline:   (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
+tagline:   (incubating) | NyÃlt Ã©s ingyenes irodai programcsomag
logo:   AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
domain: www.openoffice.org
divid:  bannera
announce:   Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
announceurl:/hu/aoo34.html
-announcetip:   Olvassa el a bejelentést
+announcetip:   Olvassa el a bejelentÃ©st
\ No newline at end of file

Re: Introduction

2012-05-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni


On 05/09/12 12:47, Giuseppe Castagno wrote:

Ciao Pedro,

sorry for the delay but I first had to build AOO, just to be 
re-acquainted with it




No problem ... I've been rather busy on other stuff too :).


On 05/01/2012 04:32 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

...




I have a wishlist for that module:

1 - We need to update SampleICC: the original version is just too
old and is not available online anymore. Maybe the SampleICC
developers may be interested in having the ICC profile as a
contributed sample.


I think this is the current:

http://www.color.org/sampleicc.xalter

It moved to 1.6.4, but I don't know if the color profile we need 
changed, for this we need to have a look at the relevant PDF/A ISO 
Norms (was ISO 19005-1:2005 plus ISO 19005-1:2005/Cor.1:2007(E)).

A quick look at the ISO web tells me nothing changed wrt PDF/A-1[ab]

That is: if the color profile didn't change I don't think there's a need
to update it.



FreeBSD's LO port uses SampleICC 1.6.6. I think the library has had
some fixes but honestly I am not sure how relevant the changes are.
It's a matter of updating the tarball and re-adapting the patches
(easier said than done as I noticed in my attempt to update
apache-commons).



2- We don't really need to have the icc profile built every time and
we don't have the silly limitations imposed by the GPL so I
was thinking of moving the icc profile generation out of the build
(maybe to tools) and have the generated profile directly in vcl.


I agree, though I'm not sure how to implement it ATM.



I think it's easy: we just go back to using the vcl header directly, like
you did originally (inc/vcl/sRGB-IEC61966-2.1.hxx), and we have the
external program overwrite the existing header .

This can wait though, I think step 3 is more interesting.



3- It would be great if people could download and use the
Adobe profile as an alternative (the stax module gives a similar
option).


mm, this can be changed, putting the color profile in configuration 
and giving the possibility to add a new one in some way (adding 
through an extension mechanism may be?), or do you have something else 
in mind?




I was thinking about something really primitive with manual intervention
in the lines of main/stax/download/README_stax-1.2.0.jar

that is:

if a file called main/icc/download/ sRGB_IEC61966-2-1.icc exists,
it is used to generate the header, otherwise the free icc profile
is generated and used for the header.

This basically means that your create_sRGB_profile.cpp is split in two:
one part calculates the profile if needed, another dumps the header.





If you feel like working on any of that do let me know and I
will help review/commit it. Also, while not strictly mandatory,
you are welcome to submit an iCLA:

http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf

It's not as demanding as the previous SUN agreement but
it is important if you want to become a committer later on.


submitted to the mail address show in the ICLA itself.



Thanks!

Pedro.

Re: [WWW] Some issues translating download/index.html

2012-05-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)


Am 05/09/2012 10:15 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:


On May 9, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:


On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 19:40, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:


Hi there,

We know AOO website is not set up to be (easily?) localized, but we've
been doing our best with the guys on the Spanish mailing list to update
the Spanish NL site, mainly translating /adapting the main English site.

I've been trying to translate the download page, you can find it at
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/es/descargar/index.html
So far I see two (main) issues:

* I had to make a copy of exceptions.css to adapt the cachedimages/*.png
URLs


It's easy to change the URLs in the file to absolute pathes. If you have 
no others changes done, then you can include the original CSS file. No 
need to have an own one.


Marcus




* we want the look  feel and the system detection, but not the
language detection: the user is on the Spanish site, the download must
be a Spanish package. I hacked this by adding a variable that is set
on the localized index.html via setLanguage(es); then this variable
is used instead of navigator.language. I guess that instead of this,
the script code could detect if it is invoked from /download/index.html
or /$LANG/xxx/[.../]index..html
Is this solvable? Anyone with a better idea?
The page looks like:
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/www-es-descargar.png
with this patch applied::
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/patches/localize-download-index-html.patch


In a perfect situation, the site should be localizable with PO files,
and no need to hack stuff... but we are far from this situation.




but it is worth to think in this direction and focus future work to this as 
well.
I like this and will support all efforts going in this direction.


So do I, the language in brand.mdtext and topnav.mdtext should also be in 
Pootle.

I could see creating an index.mdtext, download.mdtext, other.mdtext and 
checksums.mdtext that could also have NL phrases from Pootle.

These then are specially processed by lib/view.pm to include the release map 
and the mdtext to produce standard pages.

Perhaps these are all stubs and lib/view.pm would know how to read a file of 
phrases.

Here are our current patterns in lib/path.pm that choose both html skeleton and 
view.pm procedure.

our @patterns = (
 [qr!doctype.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  
doctype.html }],
 [qr!brand.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  brand.html 
}],
 [qr!footer.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  footer.html 
}],
 [qr!topnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  
navigator.html }],
 [qr!leftnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  
navigator.html }],
 [qr!rightnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  
navigator.html }],
 [qr!\.mdtext$!, single_narrative =  { template =  
single_narrative.html }],
 [qr!\.html$!, html_page =  { template =  html_page.html }],
 [qr!\.htm$!, html_page =  { template =  html_page.html }],
) ;

Regards,
Dave



Juergen



Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: svn commit: r1336368 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext


On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:

 I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
 What is the BOM?
 
 In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian 
 site to useful format.
 I will stop doing it.

I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only 
one with the same problem and you won't be the last.

What do you use to edit the mdtext files?

 But how can I proceed to do it?

I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. 
You can proceed.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Thanks,
 Zoltan
 
 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
 Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
 
 
 
 On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, r4z...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Author: r4zoli
 Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
 New Revision: 1336368
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368view=rev
 Log: (empty)
 
 Modified:
incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
 
 Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368r1=1336367r2=1336368view=diff
 ==
 --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
 +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 
 19:42:28 2012
 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
 -home:  home
 -search:keresés
 +ï»¿home:   home
 +search:keresÃ©s
 name:   Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
 -tagline:   (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
 +tagline:   (incubating) | NyÃlt Ã©s ingyenes irodai programcsomag
 logo:   AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
 domain: www.openoffice.org
 divid:  bannera
 announce:   Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 announceurl:/hu/aoo34.html
 -announcetip:   Olvassa el a bejelentést
 +announcetip:   Olvassa el a bejelentÃ©st
 \ No newline at end of file

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openoffice-linux32-nightly

2012-05-09 Thread Kay Schenk

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:



 On 5/9/2012 2:29 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

 Hi,

 I just finished a build on a freshly installed Ubuntu 12.04 32-Bit Linux.
  Not a single build problem.  Even the linear programming solver works.

 I am a bit surprised (in a positive way) that it compiled so smoothly.
 After all, the 32-Bit buildbot (which, I think, uses the same system) has
 still to see its first successful build.

 By the way, I used the default bfd linker (/usr/bin/ld - ld.bfd)

 Can you provide a more thorough 'build recipe'?

 base OS - Ubuntu 12.04 32-Bit
 additional packages - ?
 additional perl modules - ?
 build script/commands - ?



 Regards,
 Andre



I have a related question -- is there some way any of us can easily
determine what the recipes are? Options etc...I looked around months ago,
but couldn't figure it out. Could we post a page about this somewhere?
Thanks.

-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: [WWW] Update MD5 page

2012-05-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)


Am 05/09/2012 02:52 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

FR web forum wrote:

Somebody to update this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/md5sums/index.html
And adding MD5 checksum for 3.4 release


Thanks for the hint.

As the MD5 checksums are now located within the legacy/ directory, I've 
deleted the md5sums/ directory.


So, when you need to refer to the checksums for OOo 3.3.0 and older, 
please link to the Webpagr Andrea mentioned.



The 3.4.0 checksums page is here:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
If there are any links to the old page around (quite possible), they
should be modified to point to the 3.4.0 page.


Marcus

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

2012-05-09 Thread Hagar Delest

Thanks for opening the discussion about that Michael.

But I don't like the proposal neither.
The square shape is old fashioned IMHO. The S curve cuts the icon and it
reduces its visibility.
The orb with a more light blue brought a fresh look when it appeared with 3.2.1.
There was a clear problem with the file icons, I agree but they introduced a
kind of visual homogeneity for the whole suite identification.
The main problem was the lack of color to identify the application involved but
it may be rather easily improved.

LibO did a rather good job IMHO. Since their icons are with a triangle in the
corner, why not keep the orb to make it the distinguishing item?

Anyway, a wiki page for a contest is the best way.

Hagar

Le Wed, 9 May 2012 06:34:05 +0200, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com
a écrit :

On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 04:52, Michael Acevedo wrote:

Hi,

I have decided to move forward and give you an early preview of how I think
we should move for the logo of Apache OpenOffice 4 which I think is the
general consensus of the next major release of our project pending Apache
approval. The logos I am proposing are basically the same but there are a
few modifications to the current logo. Below is a description:

AOO Next Logo Changes:

- The AOO Next logo has a smaller spacing between the letters and
changes the word Apache to APACHE in caps (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's proposal in the Wiki).
- The color of the APACHE word is now gray (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's Proposal in the Wiki).
- Integration of the AOO initials (for one of the logo proposals).
- Retirement of the Orb logo and substituting it with a refined concept
of the previous OOo logo prior verson 3.2.1. I did this new icon in a
conservative manner and I think it will fit best the next release of AOO as
it will match with the post AOO 3.4 Application (Writer, Impress, Calc,
etc.) icons. The new logo makes a nod to the post-PC era when it comes to
how an application icon now looks in our devices.
- Keep some commonality with the current Orb Centric logo by keeping the
name of the suite with the current font that is being used for our site's
logo.

Without further waiting, I present to you my logo proposal for AOO 4.
Please follow this link:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13resid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13!1631parid=root

Hope you like it and suggestions are welcomed. I would like to credit Kevin
Gringon for the changes in terms of font spacing in the word OpenOffice
and the APACHE word capitalization suggestions.

You asked if we like it, I don't like it. It looks old fashioned to me and both
elements don't fit together. But I am no designer.
We should really search for something new and fresh if we want to change it.
A d that is from my pov not the old s-curve logo.

Just my 2 ct

Juergen

--
Best,
Michael

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

Hi


Rob Weir wrote:
 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.

 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.

 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.

 Regards,

+1 From me.
Note: Andrew was my colleague during my stint at Oracle. I liked working with 
him and appreciated his real interest in OOo, the ODF, and the project. I'm 
grateful he has helped so much to plant the project here.

Thanks, Andrew.


Louis

 -Rob

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Kay Schenk

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
 take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
 but also very quiet.

 The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
 submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
 domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
 services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
 updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
 I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
 time to get the buildbots running.

 So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
 to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
 possible.

 Regards,

 -Rob


YES! Thank you Andrew!
 I was just thinking about how indispensable Andrew has been this morning!

-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

First Year Cake(walk)

I'm not by any stretch the community manager of this new project, AOO,
but am like many of you on this list part of it, a member. And as we are
shouting out and offering praise, I'd like to thank the community and
the Apache group for what has been accomplished.

The reviews keep pouring in. Do a simple Google search and you'll see
what I mean. And they have been trending positive, at least as of last
night, -0500 UTC.

The first year is always the hardest, as we have to find our roles and
discover the ways to collaborate with the others--and also to learn what
has to be done in all regards, from infrastructure, code, governance,
and identity.

For me, it was an odd and sometimes difficult year, as I discovered how
much I'd invested--emotionally, intellectually, socially--in OpenOffice.
That it has come out so well and that the product I use every day (and
which never crashes on me) is showing itself renewed, refreshed is
terrific. But even better is that the collaborators working on it have
formed and are forming a real community, one whose governance is open
and transparent, one in which evident merit marked by doing is the true
measure and one in which everyone is eligible to show their merits.

Thanks then not only to Andrew R. and the mentors, but to those who make
up the actuality of the Apache way by doing.

Cheers,
Louis

Re: Shout Out for our Mentors!

+1!
Louis


Donald Harbison wrote:
 While we're in the honeymoon period following our successful launch of
 Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to give a special SHOUT OUT! to our mentors.
 We wouldn't be here at this point in the project's development without your
 help and counsel. You agreed to take this podling on as huge and gnarly as
 you knew it would be. OpenOffice is the largest end user-facing project in
 the history of ASF. Nobody blinked. Your support has been stalwart and
 steadfast. Lastly, your confidence in us, that we would eventually get most
 of it right, even if we messed up some things, was most appreciated. It's
 been a challenge for you, but I trust you are finding it rewarding as we
 pass this first major milestone of a successful Apache Release, and look
 forward to building the most successful end user productivity software
 suite in the history of Apache, for the public good, of course!

 Thank You!...and you know who you are, so I'm not naming names. :))

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...

On May 9, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 09.05.2012 08:33, Kevin Grignon wrote:
Michael,

Thanks for sharing the logo mockups. Also, I appreciate you acknowledging
my earlier contributions - most gracious.

With AOO 3.4 just hitting the streets, now is the time to think about
performing some design research and explorations in support of branding for
AOO 4.0.

Perhaps you could create an AOO 4.0 logo concepts page on the wiki to
capture these great ideas. I also have a number of concepts that I would
like to share with you and others for input.

Maybe we can do a logo contest similar to the one Apache Flex did?

http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html

I'm a mentor on Apache Flex. That contest was very fun, generated more email on
flex-dev than you would believe. There were over 50 different logo submissions
submitted from everyone including professional design firms and hobbyists. I am
very impressed with the design talent in the Flex community.

If we would like to do this then I would gladly go to the flex lists with the
contest form. If we do such a contest then we should ask for at least these
designs.

(1) Logo - including dark and light treatments.
(2) Web Banner treatment - with room for differing NL text.
(3) Presentation template.
(4) Application splash screen.
(5) Icon.

Maybe not all at once, but we should make it clear that the intention would be
that the winner would provide the designs and enough guidance for us to proceed.

Regards,
Dave

-Andre

In addition, I suggest we capture some background material on the intent of
the visual identity. With new AOO contributors and an ever evolving product
landscape we may want to revisit the message, positioning and emotions that
the identity is looking to realize. This effort should be in concert with
any and all AOO business and marketing efforts.

Some thoughts...

Regards,
Kevin

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote:

Interesting! Seems reminiscent of the Mac square smiley-face logo.
It looks like you could make a go at a square logo there, which would be a
useful addition.
I suggest we go slow with changing main logos, because they are not for
showing our creativity but to show continuity to a public with short
attention spans.
Cheers,
Wolf

http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org
http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org
On May 8, 2012 10:53 PM, Michael Acevedovea1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

AOO Next Logo Changes:

- The AOO Next logo has a smaller spacing between the letters and
changes the word Apache to APACHE in caps (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's proposal in the Wiki).
- The color of the APACHE word is now gray (idea taken from Kevin
Gringon's Proposal in the Wiki).
- Integration of the AOO initials (for one of the logo proposals).
- Retirement of the Orb logo and substituting it with a refined concept
of the previous OOo logo prior verson 3.2.1. I did this new icon in a
conservative manner and I think it will fit best the next release of
AOO
as
it will match with the post AOO 3.4 Application (Writer, Impress, Calc,
etc.) icons. The new logo makes a nod to the post-PC era when it comes
to
how an application icon now looks in our devices.
- Keep some commonality with the current Orb Centric logo by keeping
the
name of the suite with the current font that is being used for our
site's
logo.

Without further waiting, I present to you my logo proposal for AOO 4.
Please follow this link:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=69f0fbe8e03b2c13resid=69F0FBE8E03B2C13!1631parid=root

Hope you like it and suggestions are welcomed. I would like to credit
Kevin
Gringon for the changes in terms of font spacing in the word OpenOffice
and the APACHE word capitalization suggestions.

--
Best,
Michael

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Carl Marcum


+1

Thank you Andrew !!!

Carl

On 05/09/2012 12:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
but also very quiet.

The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
time to get the buildbots running.

So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
possible.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Shout Out for our Mentors!

2012-05-09 Thread Kay Schenk

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.comwrote:

 While we're in the honeymoon period following our successful launch of
 Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to give a special SHOUT OUT! to our mentors.
 We wouldn't be here at this point in the project's development without your
 help and counsel. You agreed to take this podling on as huge and gnarly as
 you knew it would be. OpenOffice is the largest end user-facing project in
 the history of ASF. Nobody blinked. Your support has been stalwart and
 steadfast. Lastly, your confidence in us, that we would eventually get most
 of it right, even if we messed up some things, was most appreciated. It's
 been a challenge for you, but I trust you are finding it rewarding as we
 pass this first major milestone of a successful Apache Release, and look
 forward to building the most successful end user productivity software
 suite in the history of Apache, for the public good, of course!

 Thank You!...and you know who you are, so I'm not naming names. :))


+1 !!!



-- 

MzK

Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out.
-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette

Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist

2012-05-09 Thread Andrew Rist


Thanks...
Just doing my part.
And seriously - congratulations to everyone on the release.  I think it 
was an education for everyone, how many moving parts need to be put 
together to make this happen.  A lot of people just doing their part.

A.

On 5/9/2012 9:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just
take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy,
but also very quiet.

The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle
submitting an SGA.  That was just the beginning.  From coordinating
domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online
services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to
updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff
I probably don't even know about.  Oh, yes, and then he somehow found
time to get the buildbots running.

So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project
to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts
possible.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...