Re: Bug report

2012-07-21 Thread tj

On 7/20/2012 23:30, Jose wrote:

Even if you can just close and open OOo Writer, you didn't have to do
that in version 3.3. Oh, and I'm also using Windows Vista if it matters.


You are quite correct. Under 3.3, the change is visible as soon as you 
click Okay. Under OO.o 3.4 beta and AOO 3.4, a restart is necessary. 
If you file a bug report, you may use the keyword regression.


I have replied directly to you, because you are not subscribed to this 
list. Please send your replies to the list.


/tj/


On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jose josedrop...@gmail.com
mailto:josedrop...@gmail.com wrote:

So you have to close it first and then open it?


On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:50 PM, tj t...@apache.org
mailto:t...@apache.org wrote:

On 7/20/2012 15:36, Jose wrote:

*Big Icons bug report*
*Bug report for OOo version 3.4*
*

*
You can't make icons big in Writer for version 3.4 the same
way you used to
be able to in version 3.3 (Tools -- Options --
OpenOffice.org --
View --

It seems that you can, at least under WV. When I change my
setting from small to large, then close AOO (including the
Quickstarter) and reopen it, I get large icons.

/tj/









Re: How does hunspell deal with dots in wordlists?

2012-07-21 Thread tj
Although used by AOO, Hunspell is not an Apache product. Google is your 
friend. --/tj/


On 7/20/2012 21:42, Sahand.T wrote:

Hi

I'm about to create a wordlist and am considering including
abbreviations in the wordlist. Before I do that I need to know how
hunspell deals with dots (.) in the wordlist. Are dots even allowed in
the wordlist for hunspell? If so, can I even write an abbreviation
like O.K. with a dot after the final letter and have hunspell
correct O.K to O.K.?

I tried this:

-

$ test.dic
1
O.K.

$ test.txt
O.K
O.K.

$ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

O.K

Unknown word.

O.K.


-

The O.K Turned up as an unknown word and the O.K. (with dot in
end) didn't show anything at all. What does that mean?

If I change the OK in the dic file to O.K (without final dot)
everything is fine:

-

$ test.dic
1
O.K

$ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

O.K

analyze(O.K) =  st:O.K
stem(O.K) = O.K

O.K.

analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
stem(O.K.) = O.K

-

The problem here is that it doesn't correct O.K to O.K. which is
what I want.

Thanks

/S.Taher







Re: How does hunspell deal with dots in wordlists?

2012-07-21 Thread David McKay


On 21/07/12 11:47, tj wrote:
Although used by AOO, Hunspell is not an Apache product. Google is 
your friend. --/tj/


On 7/20/2012 21:42, Sahand.T wrote:

Hi

I'm about to create a wordlist and am considering including
abbreviations in the wordlist. Before I do that I need to know how
hunspell deals with dots (.) in the wordlist. Are dots even allowed in
the wordlist for hunspell? If so, can I even write an abbreviation
like O.K. with a dot after the final letter and have hunspell
correct O.K to O.K.?

I tried this:

-

$ test.dic
1
O.K.

$ test.txt
O.K
O.K.

$ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

O.K

Unknown word.

O.K.


-

The O.K Turned up as an unknown word and the O.K. (with dot in
end) didn't show anything at all. What does that mean?

If I change the OK in the dic file to O.K (without final dot)
everything is fine:

-

$ test.dic
1
O.K

$ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

O.K

analyze(O.K) =  st:O.K
stem(O.K) = O.K

O.K.

analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
stem(O.K.) = O.K

-

The problem here is that it doesn't correct O.K to O.K. which is
what I want.

Thanks

/S.Taher


I don't think that O.K. would be the correct form, usually it is written 
OK on its own. The full stop after the O and the K would imply that the 
O and the K are the first letters of words starting with O and K 
respectively, but OK is actually shorthand for 'okay', which is a single 
word. There is a theory that OK was originally an abbreviation of the 
purposely misspelled (for comic effect) Oll Korrect. That might or might 
not be true, but either way I believe the correct modern usage to be OK 
with no full stops.


Dave.










Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Oops, I had got into anonymous mode.


Well OK...I am STILL trying to fix this and running into conflict
problems -- huh, wah!? :(

Later...things to do for a few hours.




 On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, There were three lines of mismatched tags
 wrote:

  Clone URL (Committers only):
 
 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/pl%2Findex.html
 
  There were three lines of mismatched tags
 
  Index: trunk/content/pl/index.html
  ===
  --- trunk/content/pl/index.html   (revision 1363590)
  +++ trunk/content/pl/index.html   (working copy)
  @@ -42,8 +42,6 @@
  /head
  body
 
  -/div
  -/td/tr/table
  table id=mainpltr
  td id=menu
a href=http://pl.openoffice.org; id=stronaglowna/a
 




-- 

MzK

I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb


Re: How does hunspell deal with dots in wordlists?

2012-07-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Sahand.T sasht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tj: Got it, I thought hunspell questions were ok to ask here since
 I've seen some before.


You might try our localization list as well:

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list

Regards,

-Rob

 David McKay: It was just an example to show what I wanted to do (which
 is write any abbreviation with dots).

 Thanks

 S.T.
 2012/7/21 David McKay dmc...@btconnect.com:

 On 21/07/12 11:47, tj wrote:

 Although used by AOO, Hunspell is not an Apache product. Google is your
 friend. --/tj/

 On 7/20/2012 21:42, Sahand.T wrote:

 Hi

 I'm about to create a wordlist and am considering including
 abbreviations in the wordlist. Before I do that I need to know how
 hunspell deals with dots (.) in the wordlist. Are dots even allowed in
 the wordlist for hunspell? If so, can I even write an abbreviation
 like O.K. with a dot after the final letter and have hunspell
 correct O.K to O.K.?

 I tried this:

 -

 $ test.dic
 1
 O.K.

 $ test.txt
 O.K
 O.K.

 $ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

 O.K

 Unknown word.

 O.K.


 -

 The O.K Turned up as an unknown word and the O.K. (with dot in
 end) didn't show anything at all. What does that mean?

 If I change the OK in the dic file to O.K (without final dot)
 everything is fine:

 -

 $ test.dic
 1
 O.K

 $ analyze test.aff test.dic test.txt

 O.K

 analyze(O.K) =  st:O.K
 stem(O.K) = O.K

 O.K.

 analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
 analyze(O.K.) =  st:O.K
 stem(O.K.) = O.K

 -

 The problem here is that it doesn't correct O.K to O.K. which is
 what I want.

 Thanks

 /S.Taher


 I don't think that O.K. would be the correct form, usually it is written OK
 on its own. The full stop after the O and the K would imply that the O and
 the K are the first letters of words starting with O and K respectively, but
 OK is actually shorthand for 'okay', which is a single word. There is a
 theory that OK was originally an abbreviation of the purposely misspelled
 (for comic effect) Oll Korrect. That might or might not be true, but either
 way I believe the correct modern usage to be OK with no full stops.

 Dave.









Empty bug in Bugzilla (#i64400#)

2012-07-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
By chance (a link found in a discussion about OpenOffice dictionaries in 
the Mozilla Bugzilla) I came across a link to

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=64400
(mentioned in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355178#c3 )

The issue page looks completely empty, even though it has 20 votes and a 
CC list of 23 users. A migration problem perhaps? Or some aggressive 
anti-spam cleaning that deleted everything in the bug report?


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Good news, I look forward to seeing these results.

On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

 You did the right thing in resolving the conflict.
 I looked at your working copy and other than there
 being 2 title sections for the page it looks ready
 to commit.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
 
 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 Oops, I had got into anonymous mode.
 
 
 Well OK...I am STILL trying to fix this and running into conflict
 problems -- huh, wah!? :(
 
 Later...things to do for a few hours.
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, There were three lines of mismatched tags
 wrote:
 
 Clone URL (Committers only):
 
 
 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/pl%2Findex.html
 
 There were three lines of mismatched tags
 
 Index: trunk/content/pl/index.html
 ===
 --- trunk/content/pl/index.html   (revision 1363590)
 +++ trunk/content/pl/index.html   (working copy)
 @@ -42,8 +42,6 @@
 /head
 body
 
 -/div
 -/td/tr/table
 table id=mainpltr
 td id=menu
a href=http://pl.openoffice.org; 
 id=stronaglowna/a
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 MzK
 
 I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
   -- Portuguese proverb
 



Re: Bug report

2012-07-21 Thread Jose
TJ:

Do you mean send my replies to  ooo...@incubator.apache.org? That's where I
initially sent the bug report to. Can you explain what you mean by I may
use the keyword regression? Like use it as a subject?

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:19 AM, tj t...@apache.org wrote:

 On 7/20/2012 23:30, Jose wrote:

 Even if you can just close and open OOo Writer, you didn't have to do
 that in version 3.3. Oh, and I'm also using Windows Vista if it matters.


 You are quite correct. Under 3.3, the change is visible as soon as you
 click Okay. Under OO.o 3.4 beta and AOO 3.4, a restart is necessary. If
 you file a bug report, you may use the keyword regression.

 I have replied directly to you, because you are not subscribed to this
 list. Please send your replies to the list.

 /tj/


 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jose josedrop...@gmail.com
 mailto:josedrop...@gmail.com** wrote:

 So you have to close it first and then open it?


 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:50 PM, tj t...@apache.org
 mailto:t...@apache.org wrote:

 On 7/20/2012 15:36, Jose wrote:

 *Big Icons bug report*
 *Bug report for OOo version 3.4*
 *

 *
 You can't make icons big in Writer for version 3.4 the same
 way you used to
 be able to in version 3.3 (Tools -- Options --
 OpenOffice.org --
 View --

 It seems that you can, at least under WV. When I change my
 setting from small to large, then close AOO (including the
 Quickstarter) and reopen it, I get large icons.

 /tj/









Install developer build side by side with regular version instead of overwriting it

2012-07-21 Thread floris v

Hello,

I just downloaded and installed the latest developer snapshot/build and 
found that it replaces the stable version. Please return to the good 
tradition of installing the dev snapshot parallel with the stable 
version so that people using AOO for work can also test developer builds.


floris v


Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?

2012-07-21 Thread Jürgen Lange

I support QuickStart, too.

The only issue I had was that it started in full screen mode in version 3.4.

Kind regards
Jürgen


Am 18.07.2012 07:30, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 18/07/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

Well supposedly problems with it have been fixed, but quickstarter does
seem to have its issues. ...

Maybe this is worth a performance test, to see whether QuickStart
really is quick, and by how much?


Besides making startup quicker, it also makes access to new 
documents creation and file opening handier, since the tray icon can 
be right-clicked for several common functions.


I'd support keeping it active by default. The main reason to disable 
QuickStart in OpenOffice 3.4 is that it starts in full-screen mode due 
to a bug already fixed for 3.4.1.


Regards,
  Andrea.





Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?

2012-07-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello;

From what I understand.. AOO already starts much quicker than before.

I vote for it being disabled by default and eventually removed.

Pedro.




 From: Jürgen Lange j...@juergen-lange.de
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?
 
I support QuickStart, too.

The only issue I had was that it started in full screen mode in version 3.4.

Kind regards
Jürgen


Am 18.07.2012 07:30, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 On 18/07/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 Well supposedly problems with it have been fixed, but quickstarter does
 seem to have its issues. ...
 Maybe this is worth a performance test, to see whether QuickStart
 really is quick, and by how much?
 
 Besides making startup quicker, it also makes access to new documents 
 creation and file opening handier, since the tray icon can be right-clicked 
 for several common functions.
 
 I'd support keeping it active by default. The main reason to disable 
 QuickStart in OpenOffice 3.4 is that it starts in full-screen mode due to a 
 bug already fixed for 3.4.1.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.






Re: Install developer build side by side with regular version instead of overwriting it

2012-07-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

RGB ES wrote:

2012/7/21 floris v:

I just downloaded and installed the latest developer snapshot/build and
found that it replaces the stable version.

I think that that was on purpose: we are really close to 3.4.1 release
so it's time to test install issues.


Exactly, it was discussed earlier on this list. Anyway, there was a 
quite prominent warning on the download page last time I checked (it 
seems 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots 
is temporarily unavailable at the moment).



You can always install several versions in parallel. For Linux the
procedure is here


We have a semi-official page about this on the wiki too:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Good news, I look forward to seeing these results.

 On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

  You did the right thing in resolving the conflict.
  I looked at your working copy and other than there
  being 2 title sections for the page it looks ready
  to commit.


Yeah, well, my svn local copy didn't share your enthusiam. Oy!

OK, after unscrambling snv's brains, it's all good now!

Thanks for the encouraging words by the way. I think Rob and I got into
some kind of lock situation which I hadn't experienced before.


 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
 
  On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
  wrote:
 
  Oops, I had got into anonymous mode.
 
 
  Well OK...I am STILL trying to fix this and running into conflict
  problems -- huh, wah!? :(
 
  Later...things to do for a few hours.
 
 
 
 
  On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, There were three lines of mismatched tags
  wrote:
 
  Clone URL (Committers only):
 
 
 
 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/pl%2Findex.html
 
  There were three lines of mismatched tags
 
  Index: trunk/content/pl/index.html
  ===
  --- trunk/content/pl/index.html   (revision 1363590)
  +++ trunk/content/pl/index.html   (working copy)
  @@ -42,8 +42,6 @@
  /head
  body
 
  -/div
  -/td/tr/table
  table id=mainpltr
  td id=menu
 a href=http://pl.openoffice.org;
  id=stronaglowna/a
 
 
 
 
 
  --
 
 
  MzK
 
  I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
  than a horse that will not fare.
-- Portuguese proverb
 




-- 

MzK

I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb


Re: CSS debugging (ability to read Polish might help)

2012-07-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

  Rob Weir wrote:
  http://www.openoffice.org/pl/
  there is some CSS issue causing the text to be white-on-white or
  something.
  I stared at it but did not see the source of the problem.
 
  The source of the problem is the first non-comment line here:
  http://www.openoffice.org/css/ooo.css
 
  body {
   color: white;
   ...
  }
 
  but the reason we set it to white (to override it, of course, in all
 other languages through specialized CSS classes) is not clear to me.

 All the pages have some bad html.

 After the body tag there are the following on the all PL site pages.

 /div
 /td/tr/table

 Add the css for

 td id=plcontent

 to http://www.openoffice.org/pl/style.css

 The footer is missing on all the pages as well. So something else is wrong.

 There's some work, but I don't have time at the moment.

 Regards,
 Dave

 
  Regards,
   Andrea.


This is displaying correctly now I think.

-- 

MzK

I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb


Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Conflicts in the CMS happen when two people work
on the same lines in a file and commit their
changes without either one of them updating
their tree in between commits.  The update
process will try to download the latest changes
applied to the svn server and merge them into
your working copy- when it can't figure out
how to do that successfully by itself it complains
abouta conflict and expects the user to intervene
and resolve the conflict.  Once you've resolved
the conflicts you will be able to commit your changes
again.


Keep in mind that if a CMS commit fails, the CMS will
automatically update your tree and try again.  That's
what happened here, but when it updated your tree it
detected a conflict which blocked its attempt to commit.



Normally I just take the changes from the server
(accept-theirs) and then start re-editing whatever
changes of mine that got lost in the process.



- Original Message -
 From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
 
 On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
  Good news, I look forward to seeing these results.
 
  On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 
   You did the right thing in resolving the conflict.
   I looked at your working copy and other than there
   being 2 title sections for the page it looks ready
   to commit.
 
 
 Yeah, well, my svn local copy didn't share your enthusiam. Oy!
 
 OK, after unscrambling snv's brains, it's all good now!
 
 Thanks for the encouraging words by the way. I think Rob and I got into
 some kind of lock situation which I hadn't experienced before.
 
 
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
   To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
   Cc:
   Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:24 PM
   Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
  
   On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dave Fisher 
 dave2w...@comcast.net
   wrote:
  
   Oops, I had got into anonymous mode.
  
  
   Well OK...I am STILL trying to fix this and running into 
 conflict
   problems -- huh, wah!? :(
  
   Later...things to do for a few hours.
  
  
  
  
   On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, There were three lines of 
 mismatched tags
   wrote:
  
   Clone URL (Committers only):
  
  
  
 
 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/pl%2Findex.html
  
   There were three lines of mismatched tags
  
   Index: trunk/content/pl/index.html
   
 ===
   --- trunk/content/pl/index.html       (revision 1363590)
   +++ trunk/content/pl/index.html       (working copy)
   @@ -42,8 +42,6 @@
   /head
   body
  
   -/div
   -/td/tr/table
   table id=mainpltr
   td id=menu
      a href=http://pl.openoffice.org;
   id=stronaglowna/a
  
  
  
  
  
   --
  
 
 
   MzK
  
   I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
   than a horse that will not fare.
                                             -- Portuguese proverb
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 MzK
 
 I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
                                           -- Portuguese proverb



Re: CSS debugging (ability to read Polish might help)

2012-07-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Kay,

I continued these fixes through the rest of the top level of the PL site.

Rob - It looks like this has to do with bad changes in the far past around 
google analytics.

Question: Are you inserting google analytic code into every header and is it 
always the same? If so, then the proper approach would be to make that part of 
the templates. Perhaps as part of the footer template?

Regards,
Dave


On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 
 Rob Weir wrote:
 http://www.openoffice.org/pl/
 there is some CSS issue causing the text to be white-on-white or
 something.
 I stared at it but did not see the source of the problem.
 
 The source of the problem is the first non-comment line here:
 http://www.openoffice.org/css/ooo.css
 
 body {
 color: white;
 ...
 }
 
 but the reason we set it to white (to override it, of course, in all
 other languages through specialized CSS classes) is not clear to me.
 
 All the pages have some bad html.
 
 After the body tag there are the following on the all PL site pages.
 
 /div
 /td/tr/table
 
 Add the css for
 
 td id=plcontent
 
 to http://www.openoffice.org/pl/style.css
 
 The footer is missing on all the pages as well. So something else is wrong.
 
 There's some work, but I don't have time at the moment.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 
 Regards,
 Andrea.
 
 
 This is displaying correctly now I think.
 
 -- 
 
 MzK
 
 I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb



Re: CSS debugging (ability to read Polish might help)

2012-07-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Kay,

 I continued these fixes through the rest of the top level of the PL site.


well good -- how industrious of you! :)



 Rob - It looks like this has to do with bad changes in the far past around
 google analytics.


I saw that Rob intended (and did remove some old stuff) but I don't know if
that is what caused the problem.  I think it was bad HTML syntax to begin
with that caused the automatic insertions (for the content div tag) to
function incorrectly.


 Question: Are you inserting google analytic code into every header and is
 it always the same? If so, then the proper approach would be to make that
 part of the templates. Perhaps as part of the footer template?

 Regards,
 Dave


 On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

  On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 
  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 
  Rob Weir wrote:
  http://www.openoffice.org/pl/
  there is some CSS issue causing the text to be white-on-white or
  something.
  I stared at it but did not see the source of the problem.
 
  The source of the problem is the first non-comment line here:
  http://www.openoffice.org/css/ooo.css
 
  body {
  color: white;
  ...
  }
 
  but the reason we set it to white (to override it, of course, in all
  other languages through specialized CSS classes) is not clear to me.
 
  All the pages have some bad html.
 
  After the body tag there are the following on the all PL site pages.
 
  /div
  /td/tr/table
 
  Add the css for
 
  td id=plcontent
 
  to http://www.openoffice.org/pl/style.css
 
  The footer is missing on all the pages as well. So something else is
 wrong.
 
  There's some work, but I don't have time at the moment.
 
  Regards,
  Dave
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  This is displaying correctly now I think.
 
  --
 
 
  MzK
 
  I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
  than a horse that will not fare.
   -- Portuguese proverb




-- 

MzK

I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb


Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Conflicts in the CMS happen when two people work
 on the same lines in a file and commit their
 changes without either one of them updating
 their tree in between commits.  The update
 process will try to download the latest changes
 applied to the svn server and merge them into
 your working copy- when it can't figure out
 how to do that successfully by itself it complains
 abouta conflict and expects the user to intervene
 and resolve the conflict.  Once you've resolved
 the conflicts you will be able to commit your changes
 again.


 Keep in mind that if a CMS commit fails, the CMS will
 automatically update your tree and try again.  That's
 what happened here, but when it updated your tree it
 detected a conflict which blocked its attempt to commit.


I don't know. I do frequent updates, but something I did caused this, and
try as I might, I could not make svn happy. I finally deleted all the weird
temp files it was creating, and went on my way with a normal commit.

I already had Rob's update in my working copy so ?






 Normally I just take the changes from the server
 (accept-theirs) and then start re-editing whatever
 changes of mine that got lost in the process.


Well thanks for trying to set things right. The prompts were really very
good, and I thought at one point the online CMS would do it for me -- but
still no.  At any rate, I got done what I wanted to do -- finally!




 - Original Message -
  From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
  To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
 
  On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
  wrote:
 
   Good news, I look forward to seeing these results.
 
   On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 
You did the right thing in resolving the conflict.
I looked at your working copy and other than there
being 2 title sections for the page it looks ready
to commit.
 
 
  Yeah, well, my svn local copy didn't share your enthusiam. Oy!
 
  OK, after unscrambling snv's brains, it's all good now!
 
  Thanks for the encouraging words by the way. I think Rob and I got into
  some kind of lock situation which I hadn't experienced before.
 
 
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku
   
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dave Fisher
  dave2w...@comcast.net
wrote:
   
Oops, I had got into anonymous mode.
   
   
Well OK...I am STILL trying to fix this and running into
  conflict
problems -- huh, wah!? :(
   
Later...things to do for a few hours.
   
   
   
   
On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:08 PM, There were three lines of
  mismatched tags
wrote:
   
Clone URL (Committers only):
   
   
   
 
 
 https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/pl%2Findex.html
   
There were three lines of mismatched tags
   
Index: trunk/content/pl/index.html
   
  ===
--- trunk/content/pl/index.html   (revision 1363590)
+++ trunk/content/pl/index.html   (working copy)
@@ -42,8 +42,6 @@
/head
body
   
-/div
-/td/tr/table
table id=mainpltr
td id=menu
   a href=http://pl.openoffice.org;
id=stronaglowna/a
   
   
   
   
   
--
   
 
 
 
MzK
   
I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb
   
 
 
 
 
  --
 
 
  MzK
 
  I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
  than a horse that will not fare.
-- Portuguese proverb
 




-- 

MzK

I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
 than a horse that will not fare.
  -- Portuguese proverb


Re: CSS debugging (ability to read Polish might help)

2012-07-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Kay,

 I continued these fixes through the rest of the top level of the PL site.


 well good -- how industrious of you! :)



 Rob - It looks like this has to do with bad changes in the far past around
 google analytics.


 I saw that Rob intended (and did remove some old stuff) but I don't know if
 that is what caused the problem.  I think it was bad HTML syntax to begin
 with that caused the automatic insertions (for the content div tag) to
 function incorrectly.


Right.  I've never seen this page look right.   You can try removing
the GA code, but nothing there touches CSS, and it comes after both of
the CSS imports, so I don't see how it could be the issue here.


 Question: Are you inserting google analytic code into every header and is
 it always the same? If so, then the proper approach would be to make that
 part of the templates. Perhaps as part of the footer template?



It is supposed to be the last item in the head.  It wasn't clear
whether this could be added via the template.

 Regards,
 Dave


 On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

  On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 
  On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 
  Rob Weir wrote:
  http://www.openoffice.org/pl/
  there is some CSS issue causing the text to be white-on-white or
  something.
  I stared at it but did not see the source of the problem.
 
  The source of the problem is the first non-comment line here:
  http://www.openoffice.org/css/ooo.css
 
  body {
  color: white;
  ...
  }
 
  but the reason we set it to white (to override it, of course, in all
  other languages through specialized CSS classes) is not clear to me.
 
  All the pages have some bad html.
 
  After the body tag there are the following on the all PL site pages.
 
  /div
  /td/tr/table
 
  Add the css for
 
  td id=plcontent
 
  to http://www.openoffice.org/pl/style.css
 
  The footer is missing on all the pages as well. So something else is
 wrong.
 
  There's some work, but I don't have time at the moment.
 
  Regards,
  Dave
 
 
  Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
  This is displaying correctly now I think.
 
  --
 
 
  MzK
 
  I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
  than a horse that will not fare.
   -- Portuguese proverb




 --
 
 MzK

 I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
  than a horse that will not fare.
   -- Portuguese proverb


Re: Install developer build side by side with regular version instead of overwriting it

2012-07-21 Thread TJ Frazier

On 7/21/2012 16:17, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

RGB ES wrote:

2012/7/21 floris v:

I just downloaded and installed the latest developer snapshot/build and
found that it replaces the stable version.

I think that that was on purpose: we are really close to 3.4.1 release
so it's time to test install issues.


Exactly, it was discussed earlier on this list. Anyway, there was a
quite prominent warning on the download page last time I checked (it
seems
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
is temporarily unavailable at the moment).


You can always install several versions in parallel. For Linux the
procedure is here


We have a semi-official page about this on the wiki too:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel

Regards,
   Andrea.


FWIW, I'm currently running (under WV) 3.3 (regular install), 3.4 beta 
(dev install), and AOO 3.4 (parallel install, per Andrea's link). I 
don't turn on any of the Quickstarters (that would be pushing it), and 
only run one version at a time, but all work well. Depending on where 
you specify the data should go, the parallel version may cause security 
hassles with Windows permissions, but there are several ways around that.


/tj/



Re: Install developer build side by side with regular version instead of overwriting it

2012-07-21 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

TJ Frazier schrieb:

On 7/21/2012 16:17, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

RGB ES wrote:

2012/7/21 floris v:

I just downloaded and installed the latest developer snapshot/build and
found that it replaces the stable version.

I think that that was on purpose: we are really close to 3.4.1 release
so it's time to test install issues.


Exactly, it was discussed earlier on this list. Anyway, there was a
quite prominent warning on the download page last time I checked (it
seems
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots

is temporarily unavailable at the moment).


You can always install several versions in parallel. For Linux the
procedure is here


We have a semi-official page about this on the wiki too:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel

Regards,
   Andrea.



FWIW, I'm currently running (under WV) 3.3 (regular install), 3.4 beta
(dev install), and AOO 3.4 (parallel install, per Andrea's link). I
don't turn on any of the Quickstarters (that would be pushing it), and
only run one version at a time, but all work well. Depending on where
you specify the data should go, the parallel version may cause security
hassles with Windows permissions, but there are several ways around that.


run one version at a time is not really needed. If you use different 
user folders, you can run the versions at the same time. To get 
different user folders you can edit the bootstrap file or you can call 
soffice with parameter -env:UserInstallation=
With the latter you can even run the _same_ installation two or more 
times, for example one with English UI and at the same time with German UI.


This works at least for WinXp and Windows 7.

Kind regards
Regina



Re: Want to join dev team

2012-07-21 Thread Marco Benatto
Hi all,

you've downloaded and configured all project dependencies, but at the time
I run build --all following error appears:

marco@psychokiller:/usr/local/psychokiller/Arquivos/Projetos/ooffice/trunk/main$
build --all - P2 -- -P2
build -- version: 275224
Cannot determine source directory/repository for
/usr/local/psychokiller/Arquivos/Projetos/ooffice/trunk/main at
/usr/local/psychokiller/Arquivos/Projetos/ooffice/trunk/main/solenv/bin/
build.pl line 1151

any tip on it?

Thanks

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Marco Benatto marco.antonio@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Ariel,

 thanks for the reply.

 I'm subscribing to mail list here.

 Many thanks for your help.


 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile 
 arie...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi Marco,

 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:29:00PM -0300, Marco Benatto wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'd like to join ooffice dev team.

 That's great! Welcome to Apache OpenOffice :)

  I have some knowledge in C++ and also in
  sofwtare development for linux platforms.
 
  May you send me more instructions as said on wiki page?

 You have the Building Guide on the wiki to try your first build:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
 In case you find any trouble building, do not hesitate to ask here.

 You can also think about subscribing to this list, otherwise you miss
 the answers (unless the poster puts you on CC).


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




 --
 Marco Antonio Benatto
 Linux user ID: #506236




-- 
Marco Antonio Benatto
Linux user ID: #506236


Re: Want to join dev team

2012-07-21 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Marco,

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 08:55:08PM -0300, Marco Benatto wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 you've downloaded and configured all project dependencies, but at the time
 I run build --all following error appears:
 
 marco@psychokiller:/usr/local/psychokiller/Arquivos/Projetos/ooffice/trunk/main$

Here you must cd trunk/main/instsetoo_native/ and invoke there build


 build --all - P2 -- -P2

That should be -P2 -- -P2
not   - P2 -- -P2


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Want to join dev team

2012-07-21 Thread Marco Benatto
Seems to be working now!

Thanks for your help.

Sorry for - P2...,that was my typo


waiting all for compile now

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Marco,

 On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 08:55:08PM -0300, Marco Benatto wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  you've downloaded and configured all project dependencies, but at the
 time
  I run build --all following error appears:
 
  marco@psychokiller
 :/usr/local/psychokiller/Arquivos/Projetos/ooffice/trunk/main$

 Here you must cd trunk/main/instsetoo_native/ and invoke there build


  build --all - P2 -- -P2

 That should be -P2 -- -P2
 not   - P2 -- -P2


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




-- 
Marco Antonio Benatto
Linux user ID: #506236


AOO as a portable application

2012-07-21 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi all,

I would know if the ASF will produce in the future a portable version of
AOO.
I think such a version could help to promote the use of AOO, as most recent
computers are able  to run even big applications directly from an USB key.
It's also nice for demos, etc.

Regards
-- 
gw


Re: AOO as a portable application

2012-07-21 Thread drew
On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 03:27 +0200, Guy Waterval wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I would know if the ASF will produce in the future a portable version of
 AOO.
 I think such a version could help to promote the use of AOO, as most recent
 computers are able  to run even big applications directly from an USB key.
 It's also nice for demos, etc.
 
 Regards

Howdy Guy,

Ah, good question - I assume you know that OpenOffice was available for
a long time in 'portable garb' from at least two third party sources:

The transition over to Apache OpenOffice just put a kink in things, but
my impression is that this is about to be cleared up.

I'd direct you to this link:
http://portableapps.com/development/outdated

for one example - look for a change in that status in short order, or so
is my guess ;) 

The other packager was:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/


again I would not be surprised to see them update soon also.

HTH,

//drew