Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:01:18AM -0500, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: Why not take that a bit further and make some of those packages from 3rd party repositories official packages? And actually include them in ISOs? I, though, don't feel this is very urgent and would be satisfied with what I believe is likely to happen: Novell gradually starting to include high-quality third party packages into the base distribution. They actually do this if they find packages by other people are of general use for them/their users. For example there are some packages originally built by me in the distribution for some releases now. But they can't do this for every package because making a package what you call official produces additional work for them and they don't have infinite ressources. If you are so focused in putting stuff into ISOs you should just convince the 3rd party packagers to produce ISOs out of their repositories or do this on your own with their packages. Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpLwL6dOXDaX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: But currently Packman is not sufficient for x86_64. I need /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ for the Opteron Packman, and that archive still is not YaST compatible. But: it is already present. ;-)) Eberhard, it shouldn't be a big deal to run createrepo /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ on ftp.gwdg.de. That would make this repo YaST compatible (at least for 10.0). Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] About yast2, apt, yum, redcarpet
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Cameron Seader wrote: What i mean by this is that sles does not have a very good cli tool that can be used to update a server with, unless you use YOU or buy ZLM. YUM could be used as a cli interface to this. I have used online_update, but it lacks quite a bit. Unfortunately we don't have y2pmsh on SLES yet, but I guess it will be in SLES10. (y2pmsh = Shell interface for the YaST2 packagemanager) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Packaging: The real questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Youssef CHAHIBI wrote: Actually, there were a lot of discussions about packaging these days which covered many aspects of the problem. Not even near half the aspects of the problem ;) I am then writing this article to discuss and sum up what we should do. This isn't a question nor an answer, it's a invitation for everybody to build ideas and concretise our wishes. On the first hand, I'd like to discuss the packaging process, architecture, etc... I am still a novice but may be my suggestions would be welcome. - The first issue, as far as I know, is unified technical standards to build rpms. This issue should be adressed to Novell/SUSE, after analysing the technical documetation presented in Novell's website and looking for missing information. A build server should be created. Unified technical standards ? What we need are policies, or call them guidelines if you prefer. What's on Novell's forge definately is part of that, but it's not going far enough. It's not about being strict or raising the bar for new/unexperienced packagers to join in. It's to help ensure that the packages 1) work 2) fit well into the distribution 3) play nice with packages from others 4) provide a consistent experience to the end users The build server infrastructure will be set up by Novell, it's on the roadmap. Don't know yet what it will look like, but it will be provided. Note that IMHO the build servers won't solve any issues, it's about policies, peer review, communicating between the 3rd party packagers. That's how we can solve the issues that will arise. - If they gave a positive reaction, then the next issue would be RPM trees, I suggest the following branches: Explain what your understanding of such branches is, applied to packages. Should those be separated YaST2 installation sources ? Do you want all the packagers to have a single upload location, a single repository ? (that approach has serious drawbacks IMHO) If not, how do you want to aggregate them ? + official : RPMs approved by the OpenSUSE community, ( could be the current inst-source repository ) approved by the openSUSE community - - who is approving ? - - how to implement the approval process ? - - approval processes are slow, tedious, not effective The current inst-source is the core distribution: SUSE Linux OSS. That is currently under control of Novell. We (community) and they (Novell) don't have plans yet on how and whether to open that control. Please read the past mails about this on the list archive. + community : Unofficial RPMs, built by volunteers from all over the community, after testing, migration to official must be approved by the community, ( respects patents, open source ) Again, how do you think we could implement an efficient approval scheme ? Who is going to test them ? How ? Please read the past mails about this on the list archive. + java : Due to the importance of Java applications, java packages should have their own branch. Err.. now I really don't see what your concept of branches is, here. And doesn't that staging (official / community) apply to Java packages ? + extra : free redistributable packages ( non open source ), may contain dummy packages with scripts to download and install commercial packages ( ATI, NVIDIA, firmwares) like YOU. + nonfree : open source packages with licensing problems ( MP3, dvd playback, win 32 codecs ... ) There are a lot of issues with those, it definately needs a lot of thinking, discussing and counterchecking the constraints. The hosting of those could be problematic as well. ( In parallel , there should be another devel tree containing the same branches ) And what's the difference between devel and non-devel ? Please define what you're thinking of. Throwing one-liners without any definitions won't bring us further. At this state, OpenSUSE would be in a better shape. And the commnity would be able to concentrate on more exotic projects ( My ideas : SUSE Live CD creator ; Yast package installation in command line ( install package uninstall package ) with compatibility with many repositories ) ; Klik for SUSE ; Server Edition, Network Firewall Edition, ) Yast package installation in command line - y2pmsh, we already have that ;) The real questions are: Who can do manage this ? How can Novell help us ? ... Please critisize, comment, suggest. Sorry if I sound rude here, but... Did you actually read all the posts that we've already made about this topic ? Why are you writing yet another mail about it, starting the discussion again at 0, and throwing one-liners without further details ? You're not even mentioning, referring to or commenting on what has already been written. And here's a summary of that as well:
Re: [opensuse] Postgresql Client Missing in 10rc1
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 12. September 2005 16:32 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Gomez, Daniel wrote: http://download.opensuse.orgdistribution/SL-10.0-OSS-RC1/inst-source/ ... It's simply impossible to fit all packages on the 5 CDs, that's why some packages are only in the ftp trees... And where is the ppc branch ? We didn't made the ppc inst-source available yet, but the final inst-source will be tri-arch (i386, x86_64 ppc). Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Thiel wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: But currently Packman is not sufficient for x86_64. I need /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ for the Opteron Packman, and that archive still is not YaST compatible. But: it is already present. ;-)) Eberhard, it shouldn't be a big deal to run createrepo /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ on ftp.gwdg.de. That would make this repo YaST compatible (at least for 10.0). I think that could be a big deal because Eberhard is hosting a few thousands of RPMs on gwdg.de, and creating the APT metadata almost already pushes the limits, from what I know. What Eberhard is referring to is that we, as package builders that are hosted on gwdg.de, should run createrepo on our own boxes so that when gwdg.de syncs to fetch our RPMs, it just needs to download the already generated metadata instead of having to compute it on its own. Trading bandwidth for CPU cycles and I/O. I'll try to have a look at that createrepo and add yum support to my packages. We'll see how it works and whether it's a better option for Eberhart. Also, most of us 3rd party packagers are not only offering packages for 10.0 You know I have it all the way up from 9.0 to 10.0, and I have a few scripts that generate the YaST2 repository metadata on my build box. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDJnWHr3NMWliFcXcRAj7cAJ98ekAw/qtAbcWFzCaGh9ENKsJjCACgvOm7 dOooLPzh/7M60HV4suKkDkQ= =tHfJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
Hi Christoph, hi Eberhard Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: But currently Packman is not sufficient for x86_64. I need /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ for the Opteron Packman, and that archive still is not YaST compatible. But: it is already present. ;-)) Eberhard, it shouldn't be a big deal to run createrepo /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ on ftp.gwdg.de. That would make this repo YaST compatible (at least for 10.0). In future, i can do this on my own server, so Eberhard get the repo-metadata with rsync, wait for weekend... ;) suser-drcux is only temporary for Packman, for me it's the easyer way. If other Packmans build official 10.0-Packages, i will do also. Detlef - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote: Eberhard, it shouldn't be a big deal to run createrepo /pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ on ftp.gwdg.de. That would make this repo YaST compatible (at least for 10.0). I think that could be a big deal because Eberhard is hosting a few thousands of RPMs on gwdg.de, and creating the APT metadata almost already pushes the limits, from what I know. Using the cache mechanism of createrepo + integrating it with atp4rpm (there is a huge overlap) wouldn't increase the load on ftp4.gwdg.de that much ;) What Eberhard is referring to is that we, as package builders that are hosted on gwdg.de, should run createrepo on our own boxes so that when gwdg.de syncs to fetch our RPMs, it just needs to download the already generated metadata instead of having to compute it on its own. Trading bandwidth for CPU cycles and I/O. I'll try to have a look at that createrepo and add yum support to my packages. We'll see how it works and whether it's a better option for Eberhart. Yes, that's definitely the better option... Also, most of us 3rd party packagers are not only offering packages for 10.0 You know I have it all the way up from 9.0 to 10.0, and I have a few scripts that generate the YaST2 repository metadata on my build box. Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Extra Packages....
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: It's just a matter of calling createrepo /dir/to/rpms/ to turn them into YUM repos. For 10.0 those would work out of the box with YaST or yum. That'd be one for Eberhard I would think, it is his server after all ;) ISTR this was trialed at one point[1] [1] See http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2005/08/06 first aspect: the yum support within apt4rpm/aptate is discarded currently (needs investigation, current results are not sufficient). To make it fully clear: APT can generate YUM repositories quite easily was a hope only, in fact it is wrong, false, no, not yet, what ever you need to understand nope. apt4rpm just calls createrepo. I wonder what's going wrong there... can you elaborate on that? second aspect: all my suser-people should try to do as much as possible of the repository generating steps at home in order to assure a just-in-time repository appearence as much as possible. Agreed. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:49:39AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: [...] BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for the Linux SuSE OSS distribution? No way. However, commercial support is available for SLES / NLD and SUSE Linux (retail version). Correction: Novell commercial support is NOT available for SUSE Linux retail. (it has only installation support) Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] /dev/sequencer
I don't know if this can be seen as a bug, but... I looked at midi in yast and installed all that stuff. when I clic a .mid file, Kmid is launching, but fails with can't open /dev/sequencer. There is no /dev/sequencer in my disk. I could probably solve this by tweaking, but is this the good way? should not this have been done by Yast??? (the start seqencer is quoted in the sound card config) thanks jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:49:39AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: [...] BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for the Linux SuSE OSS distribution? No way. However, commercial support is available for SLES / NLD and SUSE Linux (retail version). Correction: Novell commercial support is NOT available for SUSE Linux retail. (it has only installation support) No, it has incident-based support and advanced support. Just browse to: http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/support/advanced.html Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Thiel wrote: ... Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Great. But YaST2 on 9.1-9.3 won't support YUM repositories ;) cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v === FOSDEM 2006 -- February 2006 in Brussels === -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDJon7r3NMWliFcXcRArieAJ98RtXH+68aYtVGcSmofmbj5Ng0ywCfWfNt HQCY6kK8I72Xia8B70alztE= =HFUm -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote: Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Great. But YaST2 on 9.1-9.3 won't support YUM repositories ;) Well spotted ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Wiki File upload is broken...
I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and got an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking what the URL was. Can someone who knows where the server is, please fix it. :-) Thanks, Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Wiki File upload is broken...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Peter Flodin wrote: I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and got an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking what the URL was. Can someone who knows where the server is, please fix it. :-) Sure, I'll pass this on to the right people... Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] install SUSE 10 to SATA fake RAID
Hi! Is there any possibility to install SUSE 10 on a System with two SATA drives combined to a RAID with a fake RAID chip resp. software RAID with BIOS support -- such as for example my SiliconImage 3112A which creates some special signature on the (MBR of?) the hard dirve(s?) called Medley. On the ftp i see the required dmraid package, but can YaST at installation time make use of my SATA fake RAID ??? Alternatively, does somebody know any document which despribes the installation with at least the / prationon on the RAID but a /boot partition on a PATA drive? Searching net and mail archives didn't help me there ... ciao, nico. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
Am Dienstag 13 September 2005 10:26 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote: Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Great. But YaST2 on 9.1-9.3 won't support YUM repositories ;) Well spotted ;) but i have to create repo on an 9.2/9.3... ;) Detlef - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Grub Config during Install
related question... why can't yast detect what boot loader there is already. I upgraded a machine from suse9.2 to 9.3 and the /boot partition had been set up with lilo, but yast installer defaulted to grub. not a big thing for me to change during install, but it'd be neat if it could detect it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] About yast2, apt, yum, redcarpet
On 9/13/05, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Cameron Seader wrote: What i mean by this is that sles does not have a very good cli tool that can be used to update a server with, unless you use YOU or buy ZLM. YUM could be used as a cli interface to this. I have used online_update, but it lacks quite a bit. Unfortunately we don't have y2pmsh on SLES yet, but I guess it will be in SLES10. (y2pmsh = Shell interface for the YaST2 packagemanager) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could use rug (Red-Carpet cl client) against and open-carpet server if some people had them set up. I know Seb Payne had one at one time at http://www.evolutioncolt.com/carpeting/ that made all the stuff at ftp.dwdg.de http://ftp.dwdg.de available Read this http://www.evolutioncolt.com/~spayne/blog/?p=12 I really like red-carpet and have never had it wack up my system -- David Barker Master CNI, Master CNE, CLE, MCSE, CCNA, CCA
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
Hi, On Monday, September 12, 2005 at 23:49:28, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, houghi wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:23:17PM +0200, Reinhard Gimbel wrote: Barry Hinrichs schrieb: I added many new sources to my Yast list, and it still seems to me that Yast is an inferior tool compared to APT. I tried to add MPlayer and some other basic programs, and it just complains about lots of conflicts, and all the resolutions involve removing programs or other extreme things. If you select the right source (packman for most multimedia stuff ...) apt might be *your* choice ... If you use Packman, you can also use Yast. I do and it works great with me. But currently Packman is not sufficient for x86_64. What are you missing? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Packman x86_64 was: Yast Vs Apt
Hi, and sorry to barge in on the conversation Henne Vogelsang wrote: Hi, But currently Packman is not sufficient for x86_64. What are you missing? Both MPlayer and xine and all of their relatives. And it is a pain to get the src.rpms and compile because most of the -devel packages needed are not on the media and only on ftp. And a extra one, has someone been able to compile vlc on x86_64? -- Guðlaugur Jóhannesson http://www.hi.is/~gudlaugu Phone: +354 849 8405 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Postgresql Client Missing in 10rc1
Am Dienstag, 13. September 2005 08:44 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 12. September 2005 16:32 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Gomez, Daniel wrote: that's why some packages are only in the ftp trees... And where is the ppc branch ? We didn't made the ppc inst-source available yet, but the final inst-source will be tri-arch (i386, x86_64 ppc). Hi, sounds good! Thx. -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't read a CD
Am Dienstag, 13. September 2005 02:52 schrieb Youssef CHAHIBI: On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:50:04PM +, Youssef CHAHIBI wrote: snip Hi, OK, try `mount /dev/dvd /mnt` and see if you see someting at /mnt. According to K3B, the system used for the CD is CDEVERYWHERE, after googling I found that CdEverywher is a specialist in crossplatform cds ( hybrid cds ). But I didn't find any information about how to read hybrd cds in linux and K3B says it's a one-session disk. take a look at /proc/filesystems and/or /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs and try to use another fs: mount -t hfs /dev/dvd /mnt ls -al /mnt -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MPlayer wmv support on x86-64
Am Dienstag, 13. September 2005 01:01 schrieb Barry Hinrichs: If anyone has been having trouble getting .wmv windows media videos to play with the 64-bit version of mplayer: The only win32codecs rpm I could find puts the codecs in a folder called /usr/lib/win32 .. You need to copy the contents of this folder to a new folder called /usr/lib/win32/lib64 Hi, but this only works if you use a 32bit version of mplayer (well, a 32bit dll-loader). If you use native 64bit the wine-devel has no support for x86_64 cpu. Or am I wrong? -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] install SUSE 10 to SATA fake RAID
Markus Nicolussi schrieb: Hi! Is there any possibility to install SUSE 10 on a System with two SATA drives combined to a RAID with a fake RAID chip resp. software RAID with BIOS support -- such as for example my SiliconImage 3112A which creates some special signature on the (MBR of?) the hard dirve(s?) called Medley. On the ftp i see the required dmraid package, but can YaST at installation time make use of my SATA fake RAID ??? Yes, it can (sort of). But the procedure is long and complicated and will probably change with SUSE Linux 10.1. I'll write the procedure down in a few days when I'm not overloaded with university work anymore. Alternatively, does somebody know any document which despribes the installation with at least the / prationon on the RAID but a /boot partition on a PATA drive? Searching net and mail archives didn't help me there ... That problem is not much easier, unfortunately. Regards, Carl-Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] XEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I just found a package in YaST xen-tools-ioemu (x86). In the description is written: You need virtualization support in hardware to make use of this. What kind of hardware support do I exactly need? I too am interested in this; I've currently tried wine, vmware and qemu, and would be very interested in something that's faster than qemu and cheaper than vmware. Sadly, I have to run the BMC/Remedy/ARuser crap at work, as well as test websites using IE ;-( Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
It wasn't until I installed Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 from the mozilla site, I realised how slow the Firefox 1.06 is currently on RC1. To be specific. I had installed Gnome 1 CD install of RC1, and I found that Firefox, was slow, not on actual loading, but just scrolling large web pages. I also found that it would sometimes keep scrolling even after I stopped trying to scroll. Am I unique in this experience? Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] MPlayer wmv support on x86-64
Hi, On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 15:21:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 13. September 2005 01:01 schrieb Barry Hinrichs: If anyone has been having trouble getting .wmv windows media videos to play with the 64-bit version of mplayer: The only win32codecs rpm I could find puts the codecs in a folder called /usr/lib/win32 .. You need to copy the contents of this folder to a new folder called /usr/lib/win32/lib64 but this only works if you use a 32bit version of mplayer (well, a 32bit dll-loader). If you use native 64bit the wine-devel has no support for x86_64 cpu. Or am I wrong? No youre not... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
Peter Flodin wrote: It wasn't until I installed Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 from the mozilla site, I realised how slow the Firefox 1.06 is currently on RC1. To be specific. I had installed Gnome 1 CD install of RC1, and I found that Firefox, was slow, not on actual loading, but just scrolling large web pages. I also found that it would sometimes keep scrolling even after I stopped trying to scroll. Am I unique in this experience? Firefox 1.06 is VERY slow when you compare it to the Deer Park Beta 1... DP Bet1 is faster to load, faster to render pages... faster in pretty much everything compared to Firefox 1.06. I installed the Beta 1 with a little.. caution, but now run it on all my Linux machines. And if you're brave, you can install the Nightly Tester Tools extension so that you can make all your favourite extensions work in Beta 1 - but... not all of them will work... so use with caution http://users.blueprintit.co.uk/~dave/web/firefox/buildid/nightly.html C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Peter Flodin wrote: It wasn't until I installed Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 from the mozilla site, There are actually current MozillaFirefox packages for SUSE Linux available from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/experimental/firefox (and mirrors of ftp.suse.com). Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
Tell me where on this page: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/index.html ...you find where it says royalty-free distribution of free decoders. If you find that magic phrase, let me know and we'll drop mp3 support into Fedora Core tomorrow. :) Well Greg, if we had that magic key, we would already have mp3 support in SUSE Linux OSS ;) Nevertheless, the retail version supports mp3 playback out-of-the-box(TM). Chris, those royalties are for licensors of their patents. It is my understanding that they don't apply to MP3 *decoders*, so you could distribute one without licensing their patents. The list of patents is available in http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html Just because they charge a per-decoder fee doesn't change things. They could, for example, charge a third fee based on, hmm, the number of radios sond by your corporation. That would not, by any means, imply that radio makers now have to license their patents. I believe the case with decoders is the same. Unless Novell also wants to distribute MP3 *encoders*, it has no need to license these patents. So you don't need no magic key, just to review their patents and notice the extent to which they apply to MP3 *decoders* (which, I believe, is none). Thanks. Alejo. http://azul.freaks-unidos.net/ ---=( Comunidad de Usuarios de Software Libre en Colombia )=--- ---=( http://bachue.com/colibri )=--=( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )=--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
The fact that your country isn't the ONLY one on Earth and that each one has it's own laws? This is irrelevant. If you want to disagree, name one country where the laws allow a patent holder to require a license from those who distribute inventions where the patent doesn't apply. And Debian isn't a company or corporation. Therefore Debian has less to worry about by doing so. Novell is a business, they have to actually worry about these types of things. There are many corporations who distribute Debian or derivatives and work on their creation. They are businesses. They have to worry about those things just as much as Novell does. Some example ones are Progeny and Canonical. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/30321 I bet I could find news reports saying they found intelligent life once at a Republican convention. Doesn't make it true. Yes, whatever. I would invite others to actually read the article; it does include a statement by Thomson explaining their policy. Alejo. http://azul.freaks-unidos.net/ ---=( Comunidad de Usuarios de Software Libre en Colombia )=--- ---=( http://bachue.com/colibri )=--=( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )=--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse_update_desktop_file.sh
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, James Ogley wrote: I have a whole bunch of .spec files that call the % suse_update_desktop_file macro, but /usr/lib/rpm/suse_update_desktop_file.sh appears to be missing, and I can't for the life of me remember which package provides it, can anyone remind me? http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS-RC1/inst-source/suse/noarch/update-desktop-files-10.0-4.noarch.rpm Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] XEN
Paul Mansfield wrote: Sadly, I have to run the BMC/Remedy/ARuser crap at work, as well as test websites using IE ;-( if you dont have to really work on windows, the best way is to have a windows computer next to you. any old one can do the trick. jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse_update_desktop_file.sh
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:14:31PM +0100, James Ogley wrote: I have a whole bunch of .spec files that call the % suse_update_desktop_file macro, but /usr/lib/rpm/suse_update_desktop_file.sh appears to be missing, and I can't for the life of me remember which package provides it, can anyone remind me? apt install /usr/lib/rpm/suse_update_desktop_file.sh Apt will search the corresponding package for you! -- Richard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] XEN
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 02:39:51PM +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I just found a package in YaST xen-tools-ioemu (x86). In the description is written: You need virtualization support in hardware to make use of this. What kind of hardware support do I exactly need? I too am interested in this; I've currently tried wine, vmware and qemu, and would be very interested in something that's faster than qemu and cheaper than vmware. Sadly, I have to run the BMC/Remedy/ARuser crap at work, as well as test websites using IE ;-( Remedy works fine using crossover 4.0 :)) -- Richard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Peter Flodin wrote: It wasn't until I installed Firefox 1.5 Beta 1 from the mozilla site, There are actually current MozillaFirefox packages for SUSE Linux available from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla/experimental/firefox (and mirrors of ftp.suse.com). Is there a reason these can not be added as a Yast source? I asume because they are experimental? houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't read a CD
take a look at /proc/filesystems and/or /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs and try to use another fs: mount -t hfs /dev/dvd /mnt ls -al /mnt Cool ! IIt works but shows the Mac files. linux:/lib/modules/2.6.13-8-default/kernel/fs # ls -al /mnt total 136 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8 2004-02-24 15:41 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2005-09-13 13:52 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2429 2004-01-27 10:56 copyright.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 122880 2004-02-24 15:41 Desktop DB -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7170 2004-02-24 15:41 Desktop DF -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2004-02-24 15:41 DesktopPrinters DB drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4 2004-02-23 18:29 OS9 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4 2004-02-23 18:30 OSX It will help me complete my HOWTO. I tried mounting with different mount types ( all types in the man page ). The firmware was in: /mnt/OS9/Setup/Files/SpeedTouch/Firmware/R3/ . Thank you very much. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't read a CD
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:06:32PM +, Youssef CHAHIBI wrote: take a look at /proc/filesystems and/or /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/fs and try to use another fs: mount -t hfs /dev/dvd /mnt ls -al /mnt Cool ! IIt works but shows the Mac files. That was the intention. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, houghi wrote: Is there a reason these can not be added as a Yast source? I asume because they are experimental? Well, there doesn't seem to be any metadata/repodata in that dirs. Uh. My mistake. What I should have asked is why it has not addded as a Yast source. So why have they not run whatever script theyr run on other dirs so that poeple can add it as Yast source. I already CCed the maintainer and will try to make sure to get this fixed... ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse_update_desktop_file.sh
apt install /usr/lib/rpm/suse_update_desktop_file.sh Apt will search the corresponding package for you! At the risk of starting another package management flame-war^Wdiscussion, apt just gets cooler and cooler ;) -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNOME for SuSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse_update_desktop_file.sh
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, James Ogley wrote: apt install /usr/lib/rpm/suse_update_desktop_file.sh Apt will search the corresponding package for you! At the risk of starting another package management flame-war^Wdiscussion, apt just gets cooler and cooler ;) Well, it's not Friday yet, but did you ever tried y2pmsh or yum? ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 01:36, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, ajtiM wrote: I try to compile transcode on SuSE 10.0 RC1. I installed ffmpeg. I get an error: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg/avcodec.h can be found in the following packages: FFMpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ If you have ffmpeg in the common locations, just pass --with-ffmpeg-libs-includes=/usr/include/ffmpeg \ --with-ffmpeg-libs-libs=/usr/lib to ./configure Regards Christoph Thanks for help. I tried and i got same error again. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, ajtiM wrote: I try to compile transcode on SuSE 10.0 RC1. I installed ffmpeg. I get an error: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg/avcodec.h can be found in the following packages: FFMpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ If you have ffmpeg in the common locations, just pass --with-ffmpeg-libs-includes=/usr/include/ffmpeg \ --with-ffmpeg-libs-libs=/usr/lib to ./configure Thanks for help. I tried and i got same error again. So, the question would be where did you install ffmpeg to? You might want to look into /usr/local/include/ffmpeg and apply s/include/local\/include/ to my configure options posted above. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:30:43PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, houghi wrote: Is there a reason these can not be added as a Yast source? I asume because they are experimental? Well, there doesn't seem to be any metadata/repodata in that dirs. Uh. My mistake. What I should have asked is why it has not addded as a Yast source. So why have they not run whatever script theyr run on other dirs so that poeple can add it as Yast source. I already CCed the maintainer and will try to make sure to get this fixed... ;) Are you sure it is broken? Could be that they did that intentionally. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, ajtiM wrote: I try to compile transcode on SuSE 10.0 RC1. I installed ffmpeg. I get an error: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg/avcodec.h can be found in the following packages: FFMpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ I had the same problem. If you look at the config(ure).log you should see that avcodec.h depends on another header (which I don't remember the name of, probably opt.h) which has to be copied from the ffmpeg build directory. I built ffmpeg from a rpm.src file so it was in /usr/src/packages/BUILD/ffmpeg-version/libavcodec/ Just copy the file to /usr/include/ffmpeg/ Cheers -- Guðlaugur Jóhannesson http://www.hi.is/~gudlaugu Phone: +354 849 8405 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Qt4 - opensuse 10.0 beta4 compile errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2005 17:16 schrieb Tom Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Adrian Schroeter wrote: Q3Support is there because i use Q3Table, if you were to want to using a qt3 sting, it would be Q3String. If such a thing exists. Hi Tom, as the assistant says, there is no such thing Q3String, but there is a Q3CString. in qstring.h: inline std::string toStdString() const; Maybe you have to declare the Namespace? Or try to decrease the optimisation level (omit -O2). But I thing this is a topic that's better dicussed on a trolltech qt mailing list. I think is's related to gcc 4.0.2 and qt4 and not to SL 10. I have tested qt4 building with gcc 4.0.0, 4.0.1, 4.0.2 and qt4 on other distributions. Building works fine. I do believe that possibly qt4 is being built without std support. This cannot be related to qt3support, because all the others builds have qt3support enabled aswell. I use both qsting from qt4, and q3support just fine together at the same time. -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Firefox 1.5 Beta 1
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, houghi wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:30:43PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, houghi wrote: Is there a reason these can not be added as a Yast source? I asume because they are experimental? Well, there doesn't seem to be any metadata/repodata in that dirs. Uh. My mistake. What I should have asked is why it has not addded as a Yast source. So why have they not run whatever script theyr run on other dirs so that poeple can add it as Yast source. I already CCed the maintainer and will try to make sure to get this fixed... ;) Are you sure it is broken? Could be that they did that intentionally. Well, we never had metadata/repodata for the mozilla project dirs, but it actually makes sense to change this in my opinion. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Can't read a CD
Cool ! IIt works but shows the Mac files. That was the intention. Thank you very much. Please can you have a look at http://www.opensuse.org/Speedtouch_330 and correct my poor english ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Qt4 - opensuse 10.0 beta4 compile errors
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 17:44, Tom Bruno wrote: I do believe that possibly qt4 is being built without std support. It's configured with -no-stl, thus no STL support for SUSE's qt4. I just filed an enhancement bug report, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=116804 Maybe they change it. I think there speaks nothing against having STL support. Cheers, Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RC2?
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Andreas Simon wrote: I just saw that there is a RC2 target in bugzilla. But the roadmap doesn't mention any other release candidate. Is a RC2 scheduled? No, RC2 isn't supposed to be released to the public. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RC2?
Hi, On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 18:15:23, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Andreas Simon wrote: I just saw that there is a RC2 target in bugzilla. But the roadmap doesn't mention any other release candidate. Is a RC2 scheduled? No, RC2 isn't supposed to be released to the public. This is because we are doing RCs now in very short timeframes (we are talking hours here). This is just too much data to transfer to the outside. It does not even make sense for other Novell subsidiaries to get them. As soon as it would be possible for you to download RC2 from some mirror we are already at RC10²³ or have a gold master :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Subsystems Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar (The Wire) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] What printer are suported in Opensuse
I am trying to install my HP dekjet 3820 in Opensuse 10.0 RC1. I am using the 1 cd intall, my printer is deteced, but when I print out a testpage with photo, the are bearly no colour, the 25% circle are almost invisible. The are only one printerdriver that Yast will use, It is a Foomatic-gimp thing. I have tried the Opensuse 10.0 beta 3 5 dick download, and there I had other and better driver for my HP printer. Gunnar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
Hello everyone, I started to read the list just last week, and sent the first two Emails to the list yesterday. I can see them in the list-archive, but im not getting them. I checked the spam filter, but couldn´t find them. is there a setting that I dont get my emails, or is there something wrong? Thanks, OJ -- No need to use Windows -- it's easier to go through the door. (unbekannt) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] Qt4 - opensuse 10.0 beta4 compile errors
I had just started looking into the rpm spec and stuff and also found -no-stl and was about to file a bug report. Thanks Andreas Simon wrote: On Tuesday 13 September 2005 17:44, Tom Bruno wrote: I do believe that possibly qt4 is being built without std support. It's configured with -no-stl, thus no STL support for SUSE's qt4. I just filed an enhancement bug report, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=116804 Maybe they change it. I think there speaks nothing against having STL support. Cheers, Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 10:43, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, ajtiM wrote: I try to compile transcode on SuSE 10.0 RC1. I installed ffmpeg. I get an error: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg/avcodec.h can be found in the following packages: FFMpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ I had the same problem. If you look at the config(ure).log you should see that avcodec.h depends on another header (which I don't remember the name of, probably opt.h) which has to be copied from the ffmpeg build directory. I built ffmpeg from a rpm.src file so it was in /usr/src/packages/BUILD/ffmpeg-version/libavcodec/ Just copy the file to /usr/include/ffmpeg/ Cheers I installed from Pacman site. I look in the log but i din't find nothing about avcodec.h. Strange? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 10:36, Christoph Thiel wrote: So, the question would be where did you install ffmpeg to? You might want to look into /usr/local/include/ffmpeg and apply s/include/local\/include/ to my configure options posted above. Regards Christoph It installed in /usr/include/ffmpeg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
Ah, obviously you got the email. On 13.09.2005 18:45 Jyri Palokangas wrote: I found my lost mails from gmails spam folder That was the first place I looked for them, but I didnt find them. that was what I meant with spanfilter. Thanks, OJ -- Die Ehe ist eine wunderbare Einrichtung, die zwei Menschen befähigt, gemeinsam Schwierigkeiten zu ertragen, die sie nie gehabt hätten, wenn sie einander nicht geheiratet hätten. (Lucky Luke, Die Verlobte von Lucky Luke) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
* Johannes Kastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-13-05 11:40]: I started to read the list just last week, and sent the first two Emails to the list yesterday. I can see them in the list-archive, but im not getting them. I checked the spam filter, but couldn´t find them. is there a setting that I dont get my emails, or is there something wrong? If you are using a browser and reading your mail online at gmail, gmail does *not* show messages you sent in incoming mail. A solution, use your own mailer to send mail and use your gmail address and sender. You can then read your mail online in gmail. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
ajtiM wrote: On Tuesday 13 September 2005 10:43, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: Christoph Thiel wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, ajtiM wrote: I try to compile transcode on SuSE 10.0 RC1. I installed ffmpeg. I get an error: ERROR: requirement failed: cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg/avcodec.h can be found in the following packages: FFMpeg http://www.ffmpeg.org/ I had the same problem. If you look at the config(ure).log you should see that avcodec.h depends on another header (which I don't remember the name of, probably opt.h) which has to be copied from the ffmpeg build directory. I built ffmpeg from a rpm.src file so it was in /usr/src/packages/BUILD/ffmpeg-version/libavcodec/ Just copy the file to /usr/include/ffmpeg/ Cheers I installed from Pacman site. I look in the log but i din't find nothing about avcodec.h. Strange? yes indeed. I built ffmpeg from src.rpm from packman and it is missing the opt.h in the install. You should try to get that header file if it is not in /usr/include/ffmpeg, it is in the ffmpeg src tree. That solved the problems for me, although I wasn't building transcode but vlc, but I got a similar error. HTH -- Guðlaugur Jóhannesson http://www.hi.is/~gudlaugu Phone: +354 849 8405 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
On 13.09.2005 19:42 Patrick Shanahan wrote: If you are using a browser and reading your mail online at gmail, gmail does *not* show messages you sent in incoming mail. Im not, I forgot to tell. A solution, use your own mailer to send mail and use your gmail address and sender. You can then read your mail online in gmail. Im reading offline with Mozilla 1.7.11 at the Moment. OJ -- Die Ehe ist ein Lotteriespiel... Falsch! Beim Lotteriespiel hat man eine Chance zu gewinnen... (Lucky Luke, Die Verlobte von Lucky Luke) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] What printer are suported in Opensuse
I do not understand, This printer work fine with my SuSE 9.2 system, what are the difference between 9.3 and 10.0 Gunnar Because you used the the 1 CD install. Try to add the SUSE 10.0 rc1 HTTP/FTP repository and install HPIJS. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote: Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Alright, the packages are being synced out right now. They should be on the mirrors within the next 24 hours. Just check out: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/cthiel/ or one of the mirrors that has the people dirs. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] suse_update_desktop_file.sh
Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 17:33, schreef Christoph Thiel: At the risk of starting another package management flame-war^Wdiscussion, apt just gets cooler and cooler ;) Well, it's not Friday yet, but did you ever tried y2pmsh or yum? ;) I never did. From your words I concluded that y2pmsh and yum have the same ability, can you confirm? That would be nice -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
* Johannes Kastl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-13-05 13:06]: On 13.09.2005 19:42 Patrick Shanahan wrote: A solution, use your own mailer to send mail and use your gmail address and sender. You can then read your mail online in gmail. Im reading offline with Mozilla 1.7.11 at the Moment. but are you sending via gmail or your own smtp host? -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
On 13.09.2005 20:16 Patrick Shanahan wrote: but are you sending via gmail or your own smtp host? Via gmail. Why? OJ -- Du hast die Manieren eines Bettlers. Ich wollte, daß Du Dich wie zu Hause fühlst. (Monkey Island) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] What printer are suported in Opensuse
Youssef CHAHIBI wrote: I do not understand, This printer work fine with my SuSE 9.2 system, what are the difference between 9.3 and 10.0 Gunnar Because you used the the 1 CD install. Try to add the SUSE 10.0 rc1 HTTP/FTP repository and install HPIJS. I know that there are many thing missing with the 1 cd install. I have done that,and HPIJS are already in place. Are there some way to install this. Gunnar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Open? suse license for 10.0 RC1
At 10:01 AM 9/13/2005, Berni Elbourn wrote: I am a little concerned to see a distribution restriction on the Opensuse license, and claims that this is collective property of Novel. I presume this is an oversight from the 9.3 kit. Should it not be a proper gpl compatible license. examples: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Berni Well, technically speaking, it still IS property of Novell, right? Or perhaps a collective work of Novell, under a GNU/GPL license? I'm sorry if that sounds incredibly stupid, but that's what came into my headIt could quite possibly be an oversight. -Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 12:54, Guðlaugur Jóhannesson wrote: yes indeed. I built ffmpeg from src.rpm from packman and it is missing the opt.h in the install. You should try to get that header file if it is not in /usr/include/ffmpeg, it is in the ffmpeg src tree. That solved the problems for me, although I wasn't building transcode but vlc, but I got a similar error. HTH Uhhh. I found opt.h on the ffmpeg site and now works. Thanks a lot... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Editing Howto-Mail server
I have started with a basic layout for http://www.opensuse.org/Howto-Mail_server The main thing I put into place is a logical order. The main thing to look at at this moment is the Table of Content. For me the order is very logical, but perhaps others have better ideas. As mail looks simple, it is more complex then other things, because it can be seperated in so many things. Sending an email so the opther person gets it can be done any many various ways. I would invite you to see if the aproach is somehow understandable or not. I have used postfix and fetchmail, because they are the standard for SUSE. When I start writing, I will base the pages on (among others) http://houghi.org/pivot/entry.php?id=30 http://houghi.org/pivot/entry.php?id=32 http://houghi.org/pivot/entry.php?id=33 I will absolutely not be able to do this page on my own and especially the filtering part would be something I am not able to do. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:43:45AM -0500, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: The fact that your country isn't the ONLY one on Earth and that each one has it's own laws? This is irrelevant. If you want to disagree, name one country where the laws allow a patent holder to require a license from those who distribute inventions where the patent doesn't apply. And Debian isn't a company or corporation. Therefore Debian has less to worry about by doing so. Novell is a business, they have to actually worry about these types of things. There are many corporations who distribute Debian or derivatives and work on their creation. They are businesses. They have to worry about those things just as much as Novell does. Some example ones are Progeny and Canonical. Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist. I do know about them, but you see, that's not the problem. Even a guy from RedHat asked you to confirm that and I don't see MP3s in Fedora today. The fact remains, DEBIAN IS NOT A BUSINESS. Novell, is. http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/30321 I bet I could find news reports saying they found intelligent life once at a Republican convention. Doesn't make it true. Yes, whatever. I would invite others to actually read the article; it does include a statement by Thomson explaining their policy. Alejo. http://azul.freaks-unidos.net/ ---=( Comunidad de Usuarios de Software Libre en Colombia )=--- ---=( http://bachue.com/colibri )=--=( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )=--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
Am Dienstag 13 September 2005 20:17 schrieb Christoph Thiel: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote: Yum will be available for 9.1-9.3 very soon in my people dir (I'm building those packages as I write this...) Alright, the packages are being synced out right now. They should be on the mirrors within the next 24 hours. Just check out: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/cthiel/ or one of the mirrors that has the people dirs. thx Detlef - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What printer are suported in Opensuse
Youssef CHAHIBI wrote: I do not understand, This printer work fine with my SuSE 9.2 system, what are the difference between 9.3 and 10.0 Gunnar Because you used the the 1 CD install. Try to add the SUSE 10.0 rc1 HTTP/FTP repository and install HPIJS. I had to install HPLIP, and use Yast to edit the driver again, AND now the printout is fine. Thanks for pointing me in the right directions. Gunnar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman for PPC
Hello, On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Henne Vogelsang wrote: We just need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild. Manfred has a PPC laptop but hes already far to busy with x86 OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs... Bye, Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
houghi schrieb: Apt killed my system twice. However I love the idea of two (or more) ways to do things. You like apt? Great, I like Yast. I more like synaptic as a GUI atop of apt. I guess there are many ways heading to Rome ... As long as there are several ways available, all these ways might be used ... That's the same for KDE, GNOME. Enlightenment, FVWM, TWM, OLVWM, ... (Did I miss one ? For sure ;-) ) Best regards, Reinhard. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] packman for PPC
Hi, On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 23:21:26, Peter Czanik wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Henne Vogelsang wrote: We just need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild. Manfred has a PPC laptop but hes already far to busy with x86 OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs... The full tree is on the ftp server. You can mirror that directory to your local harddisk or set that ftp url as installation source in your y2pmbuild configuration. There will never be everything on the CD-set. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
I do know about them, but you see, that's not the problem. Even a guy from RedHat asked you to confirm that and I don't see MP3s in Fedora today. The fact remains, DEBIAN IS NOT A BUSINESS. Novell, is. I haven't seen anyone claim Debian is. Yes, it is not a business, and neither are Fedora nor SuSE Linux Enterprise Server. Novell, like RedHat and Canonical, Progeny and other companies distributing Debian, it needs to make sure it is not violating any patents. Do you have a point? That someone from RedHat wants confirmation? See the multiple discussions Debian has been having about the legal status of distributing MP3 decoders: http://www.google.com.co/search?q=site%3Alists.debian.org+mp3+patentsourceid=mozilla-searchstart=0start=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefoxrls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial Alejo. http://azul.freaks-unidos.net/ ---=( Comunidad de Usuarios de Software Libre en Colombia )=--- ---=( http://bachue.com/colibri )=--=( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )=--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
On 14/09/05, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RedHat asked you to confirm that and I don't see MP3s in Fedora today. The fact remains, DEBIAN IS NOT A BUSINESS. Novell, is. Ok, while MP3 support has hijacked this thread, lets just summarise, so that we can get to a definite answer, stick that on the FAQ, so that when this comes up again, we can say go and look at the FAQ. Novell is a business, yes. Debian is not a business: yes. Redhat is a business: yes Debian has MP3: irrelevant Fedora doesn't have MP3: irrelevant. What does matter is whether Thomson does or does not control and license a patent for MP3 decoders. Let's say that Thomson only had a patent for encoders. It would be in their interest to confuse the issue and ask for MP3 licensing for all devices. Alejandro has made a statement that his belief is that decoders do not require a license. Alejandro, what you are saying is against common understanding of MP3 licensing, can you please find some supporting documents or discussion elsewhere, and not just a link to the large number of patents controlled by Thomson. Until Alejandro has done that, move along, there is nothing to see here.. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode-again
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 3:49 pm, ajtiM wrote: Again me with transcode. I compile and install trnscode (*.tar.gz) and K3b fund it but Yast doesn't see that i have it. I have SuSE 10.0 RC1. YaST will only 'see' those packages which are in the RPM database. Because you installed it from source, it it not in the database and YaST will not see it. Kirk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Problem with WLAN in RC1
Hi, I have just installed RC1 on my Compaq 610c laptop. Most of all, I am impressed of the speed, even openoffice is a quickstarter :-) BUT I have problems with the WLAN. I have a netgear WAG511 pc-card. When I plug it in, I can see it in yast, and configure it. The all fun stops!! There is no way I can see it with ifconfig... Even if I turn of my internal eth0 and reboot, I can see no trace of it. I have tried with ifconfig wlan0 up, but with no positive response. I should try a modprobe, but I don't know wich module to probe. Anyone have any ideas? This worked very well in 9.3, and many versions before that Regards Fredrik Sjöstedt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
Quoting Peter Flodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 14/09/05, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RedHat asked you to confirm that and I don't see MP3s in Fedora today. The fact remains, DEBIAN IS NOT A BUSINESS. Novell, is. Ok, while MP3 support has hijacked this thread, lets just summarise, so that we can get to a definite answer, stick that on the FAQ, so that when this comes up again, we can say go and look at the FAQ. Novell is a business, yes. Debian is not a business: yes. Redhat is a business: yes Debian has MP3: irrelevant Fedora doesn't have MP3: irrelevant. What does matter is whether Thomson does or does not control and license a patent for MP3 decoders. Let's say that Thomson only had a patent for encoders. It would be in their interest to confuse the issue and ask for MP3 licensing for all devices. Alejandro has made a statement that his belief is that decoders do not require a license. Alejandro, what you are saying is against common understanding of MP3 licensing, can you please find some supporting documents or discussion elsewhere, and not just a link to the large number of patents controlled by Thomson. Until Alejandro has done that, move along, there is nothing to see here.. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin I've seen this debate go back and forth now (almost) since the existance of this mailing list. It's getting old in a hurry - the community and Novell BOTH ought to determine what the solution is, and choose it. Arguing over something that essentially is out of our control isn't getting us anywhere - instead, it has fragmented us into two different camps. Why is the inclusion of mp3 support in other distros irrelevant? Out of the box mp3 support is something we should try to include, if we say that we want to gain users and mindshare, is it not? Won't Joe User want mp3 support out of the box, and not have go to find it via forums and mailing list archives? (And none of that elitist Well, if they can't figure it out, tough sh!t. Linux isn't for idiots - I came across that in a discussion with someone and I cringed. ) The goal is to give the user an OS that is as painless to operate as possible, right? -Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast Vs Apt
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:30:51PM +0200, Reinhard Gimbel wrote: houghi schrieb: Apt killed my system twice. However I love the idea of two (or more) ways to do things. You like apt? Great, I like Yast. I more like synaptic as a GUI atop of apt. I guess there are many ways heading to Rome ... Still uses apt, wich broke my system. As long as there are several ways available, all these ways might be used ... As long as apt repositories include Yum as well, Yast can be used for those too. What is great is that the content providers can choose as well. That's the same for KDE, GNOME. Enlightenment, FVWM, TWM, OLVWM, ... (Did I miss one ? For sure ;-) ) Window Maker, Afterstep, Blackbox, Fluxbox, IceWM, MetaCity, Sawfish, ... houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
On 14/09/05, Alejandro Forero Cuervo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See the multiple discussions Debian has been having about the legal status of distributing MP3 decoders: http://www.google.com.co/search?q=site%3Alists.debian.org+mp3+patentsourceid=mozilla-searchstart=0start=0ie=utf-8oe=utf-8client=firefoxrls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial If you read them, these discussions confirm that MP3 support could never be included in SUSE Linux OSS. They do raise the possibility that it could be legal to have a non-free (as in GPL) component distributed for free (as in beer). Which is pretty close to the situation we have now, with the additional repositories available. Peter 'Pflodo' FLodin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] transcode-again
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:51:21PM -0600, Kirk Coombs wrote: On Tuesday 13 September 2005 3:49 pm, ajtiM wrote: Again me with transcode. I compile and install trnscode (*.tar.gz) and K3b fund it but Yast doesn't see that i have it. I have SuSE 10.0 RC1. YaST will only 'see' those packages which are in the RPM database. Because you installed it from source, it it not in the database and YaST will not see it. What I do is `checkinstall` instead of `make install`. I even have a script: #!/bin/bash #ins ./configure wait make wait sux -c 'checkinstall --rpmu --install=yes' Works well for me in most cases. This is just how I make rpm's for myself (so uninstall is easier) this is NOT the way to put stuff in the database. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] install SUSE 10 to SATA fake RAID
Randall J. Parr schrieb: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: Markus Nicolussi schrieb: Is there any possibility to install SUSE 10 on a System with two SATA drives combined to a RAID with a fake RAID chip resp. software RAID with BIOS support -- such as for example my SiliconImage 3112A which creates some special signature on the (MBR of?) the hard dirve(s?) called Medley. On the ftp i see the required dmraid package, but can YaST at installation time make use of my SATA fake RAID ??? Yes, it can (sort of). But the procedure is long and complicated and will probably change with SUSE Linux 10.1. I'll write the procedure down in a few days when I'm not overloaded with university work anymore. Is there (or will there be) support for the fake-RAID detector/drivers like sata_nv and/or installing Linux RAID based on fake-RAID configuration? I have been googling my fingers off and have been unable to find any at-all-user-friendly way to install a current Linux distribution on a RAID 1+0 array of drives. sata_nv is a hardware driver for the nvidia sata chipset, not for the fakeRAID part of the chipset. dmraid is a software package to layer an emulation for fakeRAID on top of existing hardware drivers. I, personally, would be happy to use Linux software RAID BUT I have found it extremely difficult and problematic to set up. With YaST2, setting up native Linux software RAID is done in 3 or 4 clicks during installation. With hardware RAID (3ware, LSI, ...) I set up DRIVES in a RAID 1+0 or RAID 5 array and then treat it as one big drive when partitioning and installing. I believe, with newer kernels/mdadm/... that it is possible to create drive arrays (instead of partition arrays) BUT this does not seem to be supported by any current distributions installers. Did you try YaST2? It would be great to be able to establish an array of drives in the fake-RAID BIOS and have the installer/grub/... detect that setup and use it for the basis for the Linux software RAID OR use the correct driver (eg sata_nv). Linux software RAID and fakeRAID are totally incompatible. Alternatively, if the installer allowed establishing two drives in RAID 0 (or 1+0) and then partitioning the resultant /dev/md1. I keep reading that /dev/md1 is just another block device but the installers do not seem to treat it as such. Should work with YaST2. Regards, Carl-Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion
Novell is a business, yes. Debian is not a business: yes. Redhat is a business: yes I consider all these irrelevant. Novell and Redhat shouldn't be compared with Debian but rather with Canonical/Progeny. Debian could be compared with SuSE Linux OSS or Fedora. Some are distributions, other are businesses. I don't see anything separating the situation of Debian and Canonical/Progeny from the situation of SuSE Linux OSS and Novell (or Fedora and Redhat). Thus, I consider these facts irrelevant. Debian has MP3: irrelevant Fedora doesn't have MP3: irrelevant. The only reason I consider this slightly relevant is that Debian people tend to be *extremely* careful in not violating the law. Some would say paranoid. They even have a list devoted explicitly to this (and, as you can see in http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/09/threads.html , it has quite a bit of traffic; in this month it has distributed more than half as many messages as this list!). Yet they haven't found any reasons to remove the MP3 decoders from their distribution. Alejandro, what you are saying is against common understanding of MP3 licensing, can you please find some supporting documents or discussion elsewhere, and not just a link to the large number of patents controlled by Thomson. Until Alejandro has done that, move along, there is nothing to see here.. Well, for the discussion you could browse their archives. A good starting point, while not the only one, could be: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/05/msg00226.html I would consider the “common understanding” rather subjective. I would, instead, be inclined to think that MP3 decoders should be included unless anyone can find a patent that can apply to a decoder. Alejo. http://azul.freaks-unidos.net/ ---=( Comunidad de Usuarios de Software Libre en Colombia )=--- ---=( http://bachue.com/colibri )=--=( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )=--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:29:58AM +0200, Andreas Simon wrote: Too bad if your isp is like mine and doesn't allow other sender addresses or overwrites them with your isp address. ;-) Can you send mail directly? Use postfix to do so and send it directly. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OT: Missing Emails from the list
* houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-13-05 18:13]: I have a great provider that is also very Linux friendly (Evonet in Belgium) and can without problem use their server, or I can use the mailserver for my domain, or I could use neither and just deliver mail directly from my server to mx1.suse.de. and mx2.suse.de. I can mail direct, also, but too many isp's bounce non-static addresses that I relay all thru my provider. I did mail direct until about two years ago, but had to relay mail for aol and a few other places that we used to deride in the _older_ (tm) daz. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] What printer are suported in Opensuse
I had to install HPLIP, and use Yast to edit the driver again, AND now the printout is fine. Thanks for pointing me in the right directions. Gunnar You're welcome. With my HP 3650, to control the pages' quality I need to modify the printout from Kprinter dialog as you like. Otherwise, it may print color-only or grayscale only document. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] amarok sound engine
* CPHennessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-13-05 18:43]: On Tue September 13 2005 23:13, Andreas Simon wrote: Installing amarok-gstreamer should give you the gstreamer engine. Where can I get it ? This rpm does not seem to be installed nor in Yast (so I presume that this means it is not on one of the 5 CDs ). you might do a search on: rpmseek.com rpm.phone.net -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Open? suse license for 10.0 RC1
Berni Elbourn escribió: I am a little concerned to see a distribution restriction on the Opensuse license, and claims that this is collective property of Novel. I presume this is an oversight from the 9.3 kit. Should it not be a proper gpl compatible license. examples: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Berni OpenSUSE _IS_ a collective work of Novell . no? Packages are licensed under their own licenses terms . I don't care about GNU philosophy nor usually agree with it, I like SUSE since it's a good , pragmatic linux distribution,it can be donwloaded for free, over the internet and contains opensource software, that's enough for 99% of the users. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Open? suse license for 10.0 RC1
This is also a concern of the openSUSE.org website and the wiki. It is All Rights Reserved and copyright by Novell, including user submissions. I have raised this as a concern earlier (before I joined this mailing list), the correspondence is here: http://www.opensuse.org/User:Pflodo/Open_Letter_to_OpenSUSE__Novell Summary was that it was going to Novell Legal and Adrian Schroeter was going to let me know of the outcome. Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin On 14/09/05, Berni Elbourn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a little concerned to see a distribution restriction on the Opensuse license, and claims that this is collective property of Novel. I presume this is an oversight from the 9.3 kit. Should it not be a proper gpl compatible license. examples: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Berni - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] X86_64 and Nvidia driver movie playback.
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 06:57 pm, Lemon Richard wrote: What steps do I need to take to enable video playback on an x86_64 system running the NVIDIA proprietary driver? Is this even possible? I had heard that the proprietary driver didn't work for playback. I've tried to install the w32-codecs to get kaffiene running and they don't seem to be taking... Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Richard Lemon - Rich, You do realize that all the codecs presently available are 32bit, don't you? Nobody has released any 64bit compiled codecs yet that I am aware of. Considering that, you have found as many 64bit users have that 64bit compiled players don't work well with 32bit codecs. I know there are workarounds in use and I'm sure some here have them working, so maybe they'll enter the discussion to help you. In other words, Kaffiene is 64bit, the codecs are 32bit and not a good match. ;o) end of line Lee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
