[opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3
I'm glad to announce SUSE Linux 10.1 Codename Agama Lizard RC3. We have fixed the majority of bugs from RC3 and look forward to the goldmaster - if testing does not show serious problems. During the RC phase, we only provide delta ISOs of the media and update the factory tree as well. Note that the factory tree is not synced out right now, it is two days old. It will be updated by tomorrow. For details on delta ISOs, please read: http://en.opensuse.org/Download_Instructions#Applying_Delta_ISOs We've created on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/install/10.1/SUSE-Linux10.1-RC3-Extra (and on the mirrors of it) a repository with some non-OSS software. The same software is also available via two non-OSS CDs that can be used during installation as Add-On Media. There's one media for both i386 and x86-64 (SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC3-Addon-BiArch) and one for PowerPC (SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC3-Addon-ppc). Please read the complete list of Known Issues at: http://www.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs Have a lot of fun! Andreas PS: Here're all the details for downloading: SUSE Linux 10.1 is offered via bittorrent and via normal download. Please use a mirror or the download.opensuse.org URL which directs you to a mirror. The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English * All 5 CDs for other selections I have put delta ISOs from both RC1 and RC2 on the server, below are the links for both media From RC2 Download URLs for the torrents of the DELTA-ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2-RC3-Addon-BiArch.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2-RC3-Addon-ppc.torrent From RC1 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-i386.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-ppc.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-x86_64.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1-RC3-Addon-BiArch.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1-RC3-Addon-ppc.torrent Download URLs for the full Delta ISOs: x86 architecture (Intel 32-bit) architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386-CD1.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386-CD2.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386-CD3.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386-CD4.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-i386-CD5.delta.iso For x86-64 (AMD64 / EM64T) 64-bit architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64-CD1.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64-CD2.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64-CD3.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64-CD4.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-x86_64-CD5.delta.iso For PowerPC architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc-CD1.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc-CD2.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc-CD3.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc-CD4.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/delta-iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-ppc-CD5.delta.iso For the Add-On Media ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/non-oss/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-Addon-BiArch.delta.iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/non-oss/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2_RC3-Addon-ppc.delta.iso From RC1 Download URLs for the torrents of the DELTA-ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-i386.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-ppc.torrent http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-RC3/SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-x86_64.torrent
Re: [opensuse-factory] Zen-Updater
Am Freitag, den 28.04.2006, 07:31 +0200 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today I thought I'd try the new update-feature with Zen-Updater, as the icon turned orange(ish) anyway a couple of days ago and I was hoping it might cure the problem I have with Yast installing software. The list of updates was: - libzypp - libzypp-backend - rug - zmd The update stopped at 75%. Anyway, invoking rpm -Uhv on the packages revealed that dbus-1-mono, and subsequently dbus-1 version 0.60-28, are needed to resolve the dependencies, but the dbus-1-0.60-28.rpm is not on any of the factory mirrors. Those will be out with RC3 - these updates are just for testing and might need even certain package versions to work, Andreas Thanks Andreas! So I guess it has nothing to do with the Yast2 modules regarding software installation/updates not working anymore? I reported the bug as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=170540 Gruß Andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Information on securing installation sources
Hi, On Thursday, April 27, 2006 at 14:21:05, houghi wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:48:44AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: Is it not better to simply do: # createrepo /srv/www/htdocs/suse/RPMS Correct. Fixed on the page. Also normaly RPMS files are stored by default in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/*. Will see how I can add that. It's a wiki -- just go ahead and fix it! :-) Looked at it and it might then need an extra chapter. I will see what I can do, because then you would also add some information to FTP and WWW. Please dont. This is not documentation on how you setup a FTP or HTTP installation server. This is documentation about how you create a installation source. I chose the www directory as example because it makes sense. Not because this is how you should do it. If you want to write a howto on setting up an installation server, do that. But not inside this document. In general its a good idea if you write documentation to stay on topic and dont follow down every road. You will only create uncertainty. Rather cross reference with other docu. Please follow the KISS principle. Kepp it Simple, Stupid. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar (The Wire) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Information on securing installation sources
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:03:09PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: Looked at it and it might then need an extra chapter. I will see what I can do, because then you would also add some information to FTP and WWW. Please dont. This is not documentation on how you setup a FTP or HTTP installation server. This is documentation about how you create a installation source. I chose the www directory as example because it makes sense. Not because this is how you should do it. If you want to write a howto on setting up an installation server, do that. But not inside this document. If you read the rest, I hope you understand I have the same sentiment. However for you the HTTP as an example makes sence. For me using /usr/src/packages/RPMS makes more sence, because that is where these things are. And still I am curious what is better. Place them in /usr and symlink to /srv or place them in /srv and symlink to /usr houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Firefox 1.5.0.2
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:13:52PM +0200, jdd wrote: houghi wrote: I could imagine that there are people that trust YOU to do security updates and then fail to look at the packages they have installed themselves from various sources. on this respect if somebody can give a link to a page that says what are the most problematic packages... I think saying things like 'most problematic' is wrong. Either you make a list or you don't. Otherwise people will say that one thing on the list should alo be ther or something on the list should not. the key word here is: SUSE Linux target the greated number of user, so many unexperienced ones. on this number, many will begin to do admin tasks without the inital skills professionals ones have (or are said to have :-), so we need at least some infos to be able to say you have been warned... don't cry on us if you are stick :-) That is the only reason the README's an documentation is there. :-) houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Information on securing installation sources
Hi, On Friday, April 28, 2006 at 13:22:26, houghi wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:03:09PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: Looked at it and it might then need an extra chapter. I will see what I can do, because then you would also add some information to FTP and WWW. Please dont. This is not documentation on how you setup a FTP or HTTP installation server. This is documentation about how you create a installation source. I chose the www directory as example because it makes sense. Not because this is how you should do it. If you want to write a howto on setting up an installation server, do that. But not inside this document. If you read the rest, I hope you understand I have the same sentiment. However for you the HTTP as an example makes sence. For me using /usr/src/packages/RPMS makes more sence, because that is where these things are. Ok then just use that as example directory. And still I am curious what is better. Place them in /usr and symlink to /srv or place them in /srv and symlink to /usr This is were you step in the realm of an installation server and leave the realm of installation sources. It does not matter where the installation source is located on your disk. The directory is just an example. As apache2 in the default configuration does not follow symlinks and especially does not follow symlinks outside of the document root placing the packages in /srv and make /usr/src/packages a link is the better choice. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services Rules change. The Game remains the same. - Omar (The Wire) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Zen-Updater
Andreas Jaeger wrote: The update stopped at 75%. Anyway, invoking rpm -Uhv on the packages revealed that dbus-1-mono, and subsequently dbus-1 version 0.60-28, are needed to resolve the dependencies, but the dbus-1-0.60-28.rpm is not on any of the factory mirrors. Those will be out with RC3 - these updates are just for testing and might need even certain package versions to work, Andreas, Does that mean that we should ignore zen-updater failures such as the following? Installing patch:kernel-1281-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] Installing patch:zypp-1285-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] There are no installable providers of libzypp == 0.0.8-104 for patch:zypp-1285-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] There are no installable providers of kernel-source-debuginfo == 2.6.16-12 for patch:kernel-1281-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key \ https://lists.shorewall.net/teastep.pgp.key signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Zen-Updater
Tom Eastep [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger wrote: The update stopped at 75%. Anyway, invoking rpm -Uhv on the packages revealed that dbus-1-mono, and subsequently dbus-1 version 0.60-28, are needed to resolve the dependencies, but the dbus-1-0.60-28.rpm is not on any of the factory mirrors. Those will be out with RC3 - these updates are just for testing and might need even certain package versions to work, Andreas, Does that mean that we should ignore zen-updater failures such as the following? Installing patch:kernel-1281-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] Installing patch:zypp-1285-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] There are no installable providers of libzypp == 0.0.8-104 for patch:zypp-1285-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] There are no installable providers of kernel-source-debuginfo == 2.6.16-12 for patch:kernel-1281-0.noarch[SUSE-Linux-10.1-Updates] Yes, that one can be ignored, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpQFpN9VGtnn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3
Em Sex, 2006-04-28 às 12:29 +0200, Andreas Jaeger escreveu:
The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need:
* CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English)
* CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English
Please, check about other languages. I guess there are others wich also
would work with 3 CD install (I can say pt_BR for sure).
The way it's informed, looks like only english and german would make it
with 3 CDs, while it's possible to have other languages with the same
set.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3
Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Em Sex, 2006-04-28 às 12:29 +0200, Andreas Jaeger escreveu: The distribution comes with 5 CDs. You need: * CD1 only for a minimal text installation (English) * CDs 1-3 for a default KDE or GNOME installation in German or English Please, check about other languages. I guess there are others wich also would work with 3 CD install (I can say pt_BR for sure). The way it's informed, looks like only english and german would make it with 3 CDs, while it's possible to have other languages with the same set. I just have not tested other languages, if somebody sends me a list, I'll add it... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp9fLpTMf7Fn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] where is factory now?
Hello, Just my usual question: where is factory now? Is it already at RC3, or it needs yet another sync? I'm asking this, because I recompile Packman packages on PPC, and I want to do this now for RC3. The CD distribution lacks most of the development packages, so I need to use factory. Bye, Czp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] where is factory now?
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Peter Czanik wrote: Just my usual question: where is factory now? Is it already at RC3, or it needs yet another sync? I'm asking this, because I recompile Packman packages on PPC, and I want to do this now for RC3. The CD distribution lacks most of the development packages, so I need to use factory. As we stated before, we have branched the SUSE Linux 10.1 tree from Factory (SUSE-internally known as STABLE) a few weeks ago. Most changes that are going into the 10.1 tree at the moment, end up in Factory/STABLE as well, but the packages are being built twice -- that why Factory might/will differ from the FTP-trees that will be released once 10.1 is gold. I admit that we need some kind of tagging support for Factory, to tag a certain set of packages betaN for example. Though we won't get anything alike anytime soon. What you could do just now is look at the latest checkins that were sent to opensuse-commit and check if those packages are in Factory already. Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] where is factory now?
Peter Czanik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Just my usual question: where is factory now? Is it already at RC3, or it needs yet another sync? I'm asking this, because I recompile Packman packages on PPC, and I want to do this now for RC3. The CD distribution lacks most of the development packages, so I need to use factory. Bye, It's currently two days behind as stated in my opensuse-announce email, I'll send a note onces it's synced out completely. currently a complete install from factory is broken, the release tag is wrong, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpK2DU3wbN2R.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
A new version and a new problem. I like these 'feature freezes'. :-/ When running makeSUSEdvd at the 'Installation Settings' I get the partitioning, the Software and the Language. Software tells me: No catalog found at 'cd:///?devices%3d%2fdev%2fhdb'. . Error: No proposal I have recieved a mail from somebody who did it manually with create_package_descr and got into the same problem. What has been changed? What can be done to repair the situation? houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 09:50:22PM +0200, houghi wrote: A new version and a new problem. I like these 'feature freezes'. :-/ When running makeSUSEdvd at the 'Installation Settings' I get the partitioning, the Software and the Language. Software tells me: No catalog found at 'cd:///?devices%3d%2fdev%2fhdb'. . Error: No proposal I have recieved a mail from somebody who did it manually with create_package_descr and got into the same problem. What has been changed? What can be done to repair the situation? Check /var/log/YaST2/y2log ... I guess it expects cryptographically signed repos now. Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 09:50:22PM +0200, houghi wrote: A new version and a new problem. I like these 'feature freezes'. :-/ When running makeSUSEdvd at the 'Installation Settings' I get the partitioning, the Software and the Language. Software tells me: No catalog found at 'cd:///?devices%3d%2fdev%2fhdb'. . Error: No proposal I have recieved a mail from somebody who did it manually with create_package_descr and got into the same problem. What has been changed? What can be done to repair the situation? Check /var/log/YaST2/y2log ... I guess it expects cryptographically signed repos now. Note that I do not fully know if this is expected or not. Please open a bugreport. Also note that we have May 1 off in Germany, so do not expect an answer before Tuesday :) Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:07:06PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: Check /var/log/YaST2/y2log ... I guess it expects cryptographically signed repos now. Note that I do not fully know if this is expected or not. Anybody? Please open a bugreport. Also note that we have May 1 off in Germany, so do not expect an answer before Tuesday :) Will do. Silly question, how can I get the logfile(s) to my current system? No network, nothing on the system and mounting the floppy does not seem to work at that moment. :-( houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:26:59PM +0200, houghi wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:07:06PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: Check /var/log/YaST2/y2log ... I guess it expects cryptographically signed repos now. Note that I do not fully know if this is expected or not. Anybody? Its 22:33 in germany on friday. ;) Please open a bugreport. Also note that we have May 1 off in Germany, so do not expect an answer before Tuesday :) Will do. Silly question, how can I get the logfile(s) to my current system? No network, nothing on the system and mounting the floppy does not seem to work at that moment. :-( Browse them in less on the system itself. I think the error should be obvious. Ciao, marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:07:06PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: Please open a bugreport. Bug 170944 Submitted houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] makeSUSEdvd error
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:33:14PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:26:59PM +0200, houghi wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:07:06PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: Check /var/log/YaST2/y2log ... I guess it expects cryptographically signed repos now. Note that I do not fully know if this is expected or not. Anybody? Its 22:33 in germany on friday. ;) Same time as in Belgium. :-) I did not mean now immediatly, I ment in general. Please open a bugreport. Also note that we have May 1 off in Germany, so do not expect an answer before Tuesday :) Will do. Silly question, how can I get the logfile(s) to my current system? No network, nothing on the system and mounting the floppy does not seem to work at that moment. :-( Browse them in less on the system itself. I think the error should be obvious. They might be obvious if you know what you are looking for. There is however so much that I am not really sure what is relevant and what not. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.1 RC3
Yes. It worked for me in pt_BR. I noticed just one translation error. While installing packages with the new installer, it says in the progress bar Installing Pacotes. Someone forgot to change Installing for instalando. Is it worth a bug report or where else can i post it?
[opensuse] [10.1Rc2] yast2 problem
Hi, I have a stupid problem with yast. Yesterday I tried an update from 10.1 rc1 to rc2. But now the most parts of yast don't work. For example: Command: /sbin/yast2 sw_single No such client module sw_single Command: /sbin/yast2 inst_source No such client module inst_source Command: /sbin/yast2 online_update_setup No such client module online_update_setup [...] I downloaded older yast packages, installed with rpm -U --force, run SuSEconfig but it doesn't work :-( I have got no idea how to solve this situation :-( Ciao Jens Weiße - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Including a NPTL Trace Tool in Suse
Hello, Michael K Dolan Jr wrote: How is this the same/similar to SystemTap? I'm currently working on an opensource project that aims to trace NPTL routines in order to help users to analyze and understand performance problems and/or debug their multi-threaded applications. This tool, named PTT (Posix Thread Trace Toolkit), shows NPTL routines calls and exits, as well as internal mechanisms details of the library, with a very low impact on performance. PTT can save a lot of time when debugging complex (or even simpler) multi-threaded programs that don't behave as expected. According to what I read in SystemTap documentation, it is used to get information about events happening in the kernel (tell me if I'm wrong). PTT shows you NOTHING about the kernel. It's a user space tool which adds trace points into the glibc thread library (NPTL). These trace points never make system calls to not disturb multi-threaded applications dynamic. There are 2 types of NPTL events that PTT handles: - calls to and exits from NPTL routines. - internal NPTL events, caused by modification of properties of NPTL objects (for example, when locks are taken or freed, when mutex values change...) The collection of events recorded during a program execution helps you to understand what really happens inside your multi-threaded application. See http://nptltracetool.sourceforge.net/ for more details. Regards, Guillaume - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! Our proposals will be publish on http://en.opensuse.org/SoC2006 shortly. Regards Christoph Hi all, I have one idea - its about to union ability of YAST System Update and drpmsync, so System Update can do update using drpmsync mirrors. In that case, Yast System Update do not need to download the whole rpm-package of package A ver. 0.1 to update it to 0.2.1. It only need to download the delta of that rpms and apply it. It will decrease bandwidth for all, and decrease cost of update for some users. As i know, realizing that feature require the modification of the client subsystem and a server-side infrastructure. Best regards SunSunich aka Asa-Doo-Leen Saiid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
I have one idea - its about to union ability of YAST System Update and drpmsync, so System Update can do update using drpmsync mirrors. In that case, Yast System Update do not need to download the whole rpm-package of package A ver. 0.1 to update it to 0.2.1. It only need to download the delta of that rpms and apply it. It will decrease bandwidth for all, and decrease cost of update for some users. As i know, realizing that feature require the modification of the client subsystem and a server-side infrastructure. You mean like the delta RPMs we use for online update in 9.3 and 10.0 already? Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1: xgl+compiz+nvidia-8756? all video players crash
On Apr 28, 2006 06:17 AM, J Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, What is the secret of getting xgl desktop with working video? I saw the novell demos so I know it's gotta be possible. I have a Dell GX270 with nvidia card, and it ran suse 10 flawlessly. I did a clean install of 10.1-RC1 since I wanted to see the xgl stuff in action. I did everything as defined in the Novell cool solutions article*, and the rotating cube, transparency, and all the other compiz effects are running as advertised. Everything looks great. until I play a video. any video. Playing a realmedia file with realplayer, or an mpeg with xine or mplayer, gives the same result: the X server dies instantly the millisecond that I attempt to play the video. Is this a known issue? Surely I'm not the only one here who has tried to view a video on an xgl-enabled desktop? I'm replying to opensuse@ as well, please continue the thread there, if necessary. I didn't try with an nvidia card, I have Intel on-board video, but I get the same crash when trying to play video with the xv driver. It's because the Intel driver does not have yet the capabilities required. But the nvidia driver does. Make sure you have these options in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_XGL_OPTS=-accel glx -accel xv If -accel xv does not work for you, try -accel xv:pbuffer If still not working, open your media player without any movie and set it to use video driver xshm instead of xv. It will be much slower, but it works for certain. It's the only way to see video on my Intel 915, that does not have fbo or pbuffer capabilities in the driver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 09:45 schrieb SunSunich: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! Our proposals will be publish on http://en.opensuse.org/SoC2006 shortly. Regards Christoph I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment Ciaran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:48:18 +0200 Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one idea - its about to union ability of YAST System Update and drpmsync, so System Update can do update using drpmsync mirrors. In that case, Yast System Update do not need to download the whole rpm-package of package A ver. 0.1 to update it to 0.2.1. It only need to download the delta of that rpms and apply it. It will decrease bandwidth for all, and decrease cost of update for some users. As i know, realizing that feature require the modification of the client subsystem and a server-side infrastructure. You mean like the delta RPMs we use for online update in 9.3 and 10.0 already? Ciao, Marcus Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot that such feature already used for online update. May be it will be not so hard to mirror that feature on System Update. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Apr 27, 2006 09:59 PM, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! A better show during installation! Add the possibility to have sound and video (recorded screen cam sessions, lizards going around, whathaveyou). Use that time to whet the user's appetite :-) It wouldn't hurt to configure network earlier, so perhaps the next video can be downloaded by bittorrent, during the time the current one is playing. The user must be able to turn off the show, mute the sound etc during the installation and before it, by using an option. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Packman packages for 10.1 RC2 PowerPC
Hello, I did a first round of mass recompiling of Packman packages for PowerPC. As I needed to modify sources heavily in a number of cases, these files are not (yet) integrated with the rest of the Packman website. All packages were built on SUSE Linux 10.1 factory as of the RC2 state. Y2pmbuild was used for building packages, so all my mistakes are reproducible :-) I have yet to implement secure installation sources ( http://en.opensuse.org/Secure_Installation_Sources ), so at the moment, you need to download packages you want to install and use plain old rpm. Ooops, I almost forgot it, the files are available at ftp://spike.fa.gau.hu/pub/pmppc101rc2/ Please let me know, if you have any problems with these packages! Bug me first, and not the original packager, as the problem might be PPC specific, and due to the fact, that I use y2pmbuild for everything instead of PackMan specific build scripts... Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, SunSunich wrote: I have one idea - its about to union ability of YAST System Update and drpmsync, so System Update can do update using drpmsync mirrors. In that case, Yast System Update do not need to download the whole rpm-package of package A ver. 0.1 to update it to 0.2.1. It only need to download the delta of that rpms and apply it. It will decrease bandwidth for all, and decrease cost of update for some users. As i know, realizing that feature require the modification of the client subsystem and a server-side infrastructure. You mean like the delta RPMs we use for online update in 9.3 and 10.0 already? Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot that such feature already used for online update. May be it will be not so hard to mirror that feature on System Update. I like that idea very much -- but it might not be as easy as it seems in the first place ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Ciaran Farrell wrote: I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment being a teacher, I have a look at such systems for a long time now and what I can say is childs laugh at that. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Ciaran Farrell wrote: openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! Our proposals will be publish on http://en.opensuse.org/SoC2006 shortly. I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment That seems to make a lot of sense to me. I'll add it to http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2006 For that matter, I'd love to see a YaST module for configuring SUSE Linux to act as a terminal server (like LTSP, e.g.). Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] problem with a server?
jdd wrote: The insy-source: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ got from download... gives me: Forbidden You don't have permission to access I have this on many server but not all. http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ http://ftp.chg.ru/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ these ones are ok http://opensuse.cict.fr/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ not tested all :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 10:28 schrieb jdd: Ciaran Farrell wrote: I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment being a teacher, I have a look at such systems for a long time now and what I can say is childs laugh at that. I'm sure some children may laugh at the implementation of such features, but it is also worthwhile to look at the necessity of such features as a whole. The concept of keeping the Internet safe for children and thus integrating the Internet into the learning experience for children is certainly important. It is almost certainly _more_ important for teachers and parents and indeed anyone trusted with the guidance and upbringing of children to invest time in actually helping these children understand the dangers of the Internet, rather than simply sheltering them from such dangers. On the other hand, I am fairly sure that no school network administrator would argue that subjective technical ability to disable filters is an argument for not implementing the filters in the first place. Ciaran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
*AFAIK when one asks for an install through internet, he must go to the ncurse UI, at least it was what I had to do last time. make a graphic interface should be nice, this kind of install have many advantages. *Yast, specially at install time, is very power (specially RAM) demanding. This is specially true when all the harddrive must be partitionned, for example when it's all new, because there are no swap space available. If it would be possible to make smarters libraries? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] problem with a server?
jdd wrote: The insy-source: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ got from download... gives me: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ on this server. however the upper directory (without inst-source) is normally accesible. what may I do? jdd Hi, Use Belnet server, it's a belgian server very fast :-) http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ Link tested ;-) See you Frédéric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Am Donnerstag, 27. April 2006 20:59 schrieb Christoph Thiel: Hi everyone, openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! [...] We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! What about a YaST-module for setting up UMTS or GPRS-Connections for mobile phones/PDAs via Bluetooth, Serial / USB cable, pccard. -- Üdvözlettel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Marcel Hilzinger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hartmut Meyer wrote: I know quite some people are using the SMART Package Manager these days: So, I'm going to propose some extensions to SMART to handle the new rpm-md+ based update channels for SUSE Linux, including deltarpm support, etc. Maybe a QT GUI for SMART would be a nice feature as well, eh? Why not a YaST2 integration (module)? I.e. a YaST2 module that uses smart as a backend? Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! What about a YaST-module for setting up UMTS or GPRS-Connections for mobile phones/PDAs via Bluetooth, Serial / USB cable, pccard. Sounds nice as well! Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Hi, On Friday 28 April 2006 12:22, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hartmut Meyer wrote: I know quite some people are using the SMART Package Manager these days: So, I'm going to propose some extensions to SMART to handle the new rpm-md+ based update channels for SUSE Linux, including deltarpm support, etc. Maybe a QT GUI for SMART would be a nice feature as well, eh? Why not a YaST2 integration (module)? I.e. a YaST2 module that uses smart as a backend? Yes. Or does this already exist? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, NTS EMEA Partner Relationship Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 421 3064385 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 421 3064387 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.novell.com/open pgpzFQloixmH3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Hartmut Meyer wrote: I know quite some people are using the SMART Package Manager these days: So, I'm going to propose some extensions to SMART to handle the new rpm-md+ based update channels for SUSE Linux, including deltarpm support, etc. Maybe a QT GUI for SMART would be a nice feature as well, eh? Why not a YaST2 integration (module)? I.e. a YaST2 module that uses smart as a backend? Yes. Or does this already exist? No, but it sounds interesting ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Christoph Thiel wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Christoph Thiel wrote: openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! I know quite some people are using the SMART Package Manager these days: So, I'm going to propose some extensions to SMART to handle the new rpm-md+ based update channels for SUSE Linux, including deltarpm support, etc. Maybe a QT GUI for SMART would be a nice feature as well, eh? Is there anything else that you are missing in SMART that could be addressed by a SoC project? I was about to mention that ;) Maybe a YaST2 module frontend for Smart ? i.e. Software Management (that works) ? ;P Smart is 100% Python and well written, I think it should be an attractive project. What about a software central application like I mentioned once, in Python, based on the Smart engine ? A single view that would display - new security updates - new packages from configured channels (including 3rd party, of course) - updates to installed packages - single-click installation/upgrade - possibly even downgrading to older versions from the UI The Smart engine could be used as an operating core for that, as it already provides all the operations for managing channels, refreshing channels, getting potential upgrades, and of course performing installation/removal/upgrade of packages with an excellent dependency resolver. Goals/tasks: 1) coding the UI (either PyGTK or PyQT, or even both.. or... hmm.. a web interface ? (there are embeddable lightweight webservers for Python), a YaST2 module ? a Jabber bot ? ;) 2) adding some stuff to Smart itself, i.e. some history management (e.g. for new packages that have shown up after each channel update: smart reports that data when you do smart update (= re-fetches and updates the repository metadata, it does *not* perform a package upgrade) but doesn't keep history of that information) 3) possibly enhancing rpm-md with even more metadata, e.g. such as - links to screenshots that would be embedded in the view (à la http://kde-apps.org), - quality/stability labels (whether a given release of a package is stable, testing or experimental, or something similar) and giving the end-user the choice to install/upgrade to the latest stable or to the latest bleeding-edge version of a package (and do that per package or package sets), e.g. I want the latest stable KDE version but I want the latest bleeding-edge version of GIMP ... endless possibilities (such as push-based package management for remote nodes) ;) The advantages of smart: - pure Python - already supports a large number of repository formats - doesn't rely on any dependencies except Python (obviously), and rpm-python for RPM-based distributions - already supports mirrors - has the best dependency resolver of all package management frontends - is biarch-capable - works on RPM and Debian/dpkg based distributions (even seems that Ubuntu will switch to smart) - the code is pretty clean and well-structured (definitely when comparing to yum or rpm) - the maintainer (Gustavo Niemeyer) is very experienced (he was the maintainer of apt-rpm and implemented a lot of synaptic) and very friendly As far as business value is concerned and in case you wondered why should Novell support the development of a cross-distribution killer application like this that would be better than YaST2, I think that the added value of YaST2 is not in the package manager, but in the other configuration modules and in the installer. cheers -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Ciaran Farrell wrote: openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... ... I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment That seems to make a lot of sense to me. I'll add it to http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2006 Yep, interesting idea. Wouldn't be that difficult to implement actually, it would be a configuration frontend for blocking rules in Squid (+ possibly transparent proxy configuration through SuSEfirewall2 to enforce HTTP requests to go through Squid). + implement a protocol and a sample implementation of a website blacklisting system (similar to Razor for spam or DenyHosts for SSH) through a central website or even a P2P architecture For that matter, I'd love to see a YaST module for configuring SUSE Linux to act as a terminal server (like LTSP, e.g.). Good idea as well ;) -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v FOSDEM 2006 -- 25+26 February 2006 in Brussels signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, SunSunich wrote:
Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot that such
feature already used for online update. May be it will be not so hard to
mirror that feature on System Update.
I like that idea very much -- but it might not be as easy as it seems in
the first place ;)
Actually we already talked about this a couple of months ago. I
think it can be implemented by having a transport mechanism drpmsync
next to nfs, ftp and the like. I don't think it would be so hard
to implement.
Cheers,
Michael.
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Ciaran Farrell wrote: I'm sure some children may laugh at the implementation of such features, but it is also worthwhile to look at the necessity of such features as a whole. I have seen many systems built to forgive access to given sites. I have seen none run as it should. usually this is like anti-piracy measures, this give problems only to honest people. On my school many sites are filtered (I don't know how) and this gives me problem more than it should, forgiving the access to usefull sites, when as soon as I turn back I see porn screens on my students computers. usually yougers childs dont care about such sites (they simply don't understand) and others know how to get around. don't forget there are friends, not so well hiden parents code and so on. I remember the content of a math VHS tape my son forget in the VHS reader :-(( The concept of keeping the Internet safe for children and thus integrating the Internet into the learning experience for children is certainly important. It is almost certainly _more_ important for teachers and parents and indeed anyone trusted with the guidance and upbringing of children to invest time in actually helping these children understand the dangers of the Internet, rather than simply sheltering them from such dangers. absolutely true On the other hand, I am fairly sure that no school network administrator would argue that subjective technical ability to disable filters is an argument for not implementing the filters in the first place. false security is worst than no security at all. understand me: it should be a good thing if children could be protected, but protection against TV infos should me better than from the net. the greated danger is on the road between the house and the school :-(( I'm not opposed to a yast children safety module if it proves it works... (Linux in itself is good as protecting children) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Michael Schroeder wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, SunSunich wrote: Yes, like that, but for whole system update. Actualy i forgot that such feature already used for online update. May be it will be not so hard to mirror that feature on System Update. I like that idea very much -- but it might not be as easy as it seems in the first place ;) Actually we already talked about this a couple of months ago. I think it can be implemented by having a transport mechanism drpmsync next to nfs, ftp and the like. I don't think it would be so hard to implement. Actually, I'd like to see drpmsync over rsync, drpmsync over ftp or drpmsync over http, in order to spur the distribution of drpmsync in general ;) Regards Christoph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 13:13 schrieb jdd: On the other hand, I am fairly sure that no school network administrator would argue that subjective technical ability to disable filters is an argument for not implementing the filters in the first place. false security is worst than no security at all. understand me: it should be a good thing if children could be protected, but protection against TV infos should me better than from the net. I'm not opposed to a yast children safety module if it proves it works... (Linux in itself is good as protecting children) ...and as it cannot be proven that such systems will ever work (it may rather be proved that it will never work), let's best drop the whole pointless discussion about it. I am wondering if people who from time to time propose something like an Internet Safety Filter or whatever it is called ever read magazines, read articles, are interested in how such systems work and why they don't? SUSE surely needs some things, which are substantial, but no snake oil like Parental Filter for WWW. I would appreciate a Yast Plugin for setting up a Kerberos KDC, or LUKS integration. Best regards Oliver -- May a Misguided Platypus lay its Eggs in your Jockey Shorts -- __ creating IT solutions Dr. Oliver Tennert Senior Solutions Engineer CAx Professional Services science + computing ag phone +49(0)7071 9457-598 Hagellocher Weg 71-75 fax +49(0)7071 9457-411 D-72070 Tuebingen, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.science-computing.de - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] problem with a server?
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 11:50:00AM +0200, Frederic wrote: Use Belnet server, it's a belgian server very fast :-) http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ Link tested ;-) What I do is a `wget -c http://download.opensuse.org/` When it hits a site that is too slow, I do a CTR-c, arrow-up and enter. That way I don't point people at one mirror and make the whole idea of mirroring obsolete. ;-) houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Friday 28 April 2006 12:58, Pascal Bleser wrote: + implement a protocol and a sample implementation of a website blacklisting system (similar to Razor for spam or DenyHosts for SSH) through a central website or even a P2P architecture It would be nice if it you could select blacklists from popular ones in the net. There are blacklists for adult content, pishing [3], spam [2], sites associated with the RIAA [1] , etc. All this stuff is useful to protect children, but they fit nice as a module in the users and security section of yast. I dont think it is work to create yet another blacklist but better to integrate all of them in a easy way. Just like when You go to the NTP module and you don't need to know a ntp server, you can chose someone near you. Here the challenge is: - to group them by category - to apply them in the right place. For exaple p2p blacklists are text files and should be applied to the firewall, while spam blacklists are dns based and should be added to postfix. Perhap a simple architecture could be designed to update the avilable known blacklists. But in any case I think we should implement a new blacklist architecture for the internet. Duncan [1] http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/antip2p.txt [2] http://dsbl.org (agregates various others) [3] http://rhs.mailpolice.com (includes advertisement, redirect, adult, spam, pishing) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 13:47 schrieb Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett: Here the challenge is: - to group them by category - to apply them in the right place. For exaple p2p blacklists are text files and should be applied to the firewall, while spam blacklists are dns based and should be added to postfix. Perhap a simple architecture could be designed to update the avilable known blacklists. But in any case I think we should implement a new blacklist architecture for the internet. Edubuntu is aimed at schools etc. Does anyone know if they have a feature like this? Apropos those who think the idea of a child filter is not worth spending any effort on, since this morning I was in contact with two school directors about installing SUSE on school networks. With one, the very first question was about keeping the Internet safe in school - with the other it was the third question. While the idea of 'censoring' might seem absurd to developers, schools take this very seriously and I am sure parents do too. I've seen how some schools see how filters don't always work and instead the implement whitelists. Duncan is right - there is no need to re-invent the wheel, but rather create a frontend to give parents and schools the _choice_ to implement the features. Ciaran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Thursday 27 April 2006 20:59, Christoph Thiel wrote: We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. How about a YaST-module for configuring/setting up Xgl? I haven't really looked into it yet - but seems to involve quite a lot of config-file-editing - which many people are scared to do. I think it would be great for SUSE to have a YaST module for easy setup. No clue whether it's feasible or not - I must admit. cb400f - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote: Perhap a simple architecture could be designed to update the avilable known blacklists. But in any case I think we should implement a new blacklist architecture for the internet. If there is such a list, just use it as an add on to the proxy server. That said, blacklisting won't work. If you want to protect your children from seeing things you do not want them to see there is only one thing: Guidence. Well, another way of babysitting through technolagy and avoiding your resposability is tio use whitelisting. I see these lists like firewalls. A bad firewall closes everything that is not allowed in. A good firewall opens everything that is allowed in. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:57:46PM +0200, Ciaran Farrell wrote: Duncan is right - there is no need to re-invent the wheel, but rather create a frontend to give parents and schools the _choice_ to implement the features. There already is such a feature. It is 'sit next to the kid, or pull the plug'. It is a pity that schools should need such a thing, because it is not about learning kids what is allowed and what not. It is about avoiding some stupid My kid saw a female nipple on school and now he is gay lawsuit. Either take you resposability, or whitelist. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Friday 28 April 2006 14:21, houghi wrote: If there is such a list, just use it as an add on to the proxy server. That said, blacklisting won't work. If you want to protect your children from seeing things you do not want them to see there is only one thing: Guidence. we are not talking only about protecting children from seeing things, we are talkign about protection in general spam, fraud, innapropiate (user context), pishing, stupid lawsuits Nobody is going to refute good guidance is better than a filter in terms of adult content / children, but for a school you are not going to do massive children guidance for 1.000 kids that have different home education, you just want to lower the risk of innapropiate content being displayed during working times, and reduce virus, spam, frauds. Not only for children, people clicking on pishing sites for example is just people that is not informed about the problem, high-tech education. But a nice module to handle all this in a central place will for sure be useful for schools, home users, little mail servers that get flooded with spamming injecting probes. It will not solve the root of the problem, but it will reduce the risk, and at the same time, is a good way to put linux security on the hands of normal users, lot of alternative operating system (planned for somewhere in 2007) look to do the same. Duncan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Friday 28 April 2006 14:26, houghi wrote: Either take you resposability, or whitelist. You are reducing the topic to adult content, which is only part of the topic. There is also spam, viruses, ads, pishing, etc. Duncan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Xgl doesnt require any config-file-editing. We just had (my package still has) nice little Xgl switch to toggle 3D desktop, if you are running nvidia card that is all is required, once the driver bit is sorted out, it would be so for others too. What would be a good idea for xgl-compiz is some useful plugins, we havent seen any of those since the initial few extras. For plugin ideas one can have a look at http://compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=273. -J -- www.cyberorg.info How about a YaST-module for configuring/setting up Xgl? I haven't really looked into it yet - but seems to involve quite a lot of config-file-editing - which many people are scared to do. I think it would be great for SUSE to have a YaST module for easy setup. No clue whether it's feasible or not - I must admit. cb400f - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Hi, Oliver Tennert schrieb: SUSE surely needs some things, which are substantial, but no snake oil like Parental Filter for WWW. While I fully agree with you that there can't be any effective filter (except total disconnect), people still want to spend money on such a filter. If you explain why it is snake oil and people still want to buy it, why not give them what they want? There are many people out there who will pay you to be able to keep their illusions. Sad but true. Regards, Carl-Daniel -- http://www.hailfinger.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Ciaran Farrell wrote: Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 14:38 schrieb jdd: spam and children protection are two completely different things. I don't know about that. If you saw some of the spam I get, then I'm sure you'd agree, a child should be protected from it. Or would you like your child to give your bank details to a nigerian bank manager who badly needs these details to transfer the million dollars left to you by your long lost cousin? does your child have an e-mail or messenger? if yes, you are stuck. and he receive mail on a server (hotmail), so you can do nothing. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
How about a YaST-module for configuring/setting up Xgl? That would seem to make more sense integrated into SaX2 rather than YaST... -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Permission problems on SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC2-i386-mini.iso
Boyd Lynn Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been trying to get this file for over 2 hours and I always get file not found. So I went to the sites. I have been getting 3 sites with the error. So I thought I would ftp to the site. I noticed they all are missing +r for other... -rw-r-1 emoenke ftp 36667392 Apr 27 16:18 SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC3-i386-mini.iso This needs to be fixed on all the mirror. Sorry :-((( I run chmod in the wrong directory, fixed now, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp0QfHcRihVe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
On Friday 28 April 2006 16:01, jdd wrote: Ciaran Farrell wrote: does your child have an e-mail or messenger? if yes, you are stuck. and he receive mail on a server (hotmail), so you can do nothing. jdd But a school could use suse for a small mailserver, web proxy, workstation etc, and provide web browsing and a school mailbox, so you have to consideer them too. Even if they get in hotmail a evil url, clicking it will be less risky if you have some protection. Duncan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Christoph Thiel wrote: [] We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! [] I don't know whether this problem has already been resolved in version 10.1, then please forget about this email. Otherwise, I think it might be worth considering: The configuration of HAL, UDEV, etc. is really painful at the moment (and, by the way, not very well documented). For instance, it might require editing cryptic XML files. It would be good to simplify this configuration process by some means (Yast?)... Cheers, Th. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [10.1Rc2] yast2 problem
Hello, Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 09:14 schrieb Jens Weisse: I have a stupid problem with yast. Yesterday I tried an update from 10.1 rc1 to rc2. But now the most parts of yast don't work. For example: Command: /sbin/yast2 sw_single No such client module sw_single Have a look at bug 168507 and bug 164725 - and reopen one of them if the problem still exists with RC3 ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Meine sigg macht Urlaub bis Donnerstag. [WoKo in dag°] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic. What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model). Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...) -- - When the multitude detests a man, inquiry is necessary; when the multitude likes a man, inquiry is equally necessary. Confucius, Analects (circa 6th century BC) Or more pertinently: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
On Friday 28 April 2006 16:34, M.Blackmore wrote: I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic. Hi M, First, you've omitted most of the details that might help other subscribers understand and help with your problem (mainboard make/model, retail or OSS, etc.?) Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...) Have you seen these instructions?: http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:02 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: First, you've omitted most of the details that might help other subscribers understand and help with your problem (mainboard make/model, retail or OSS, etc.?) I've tried everything over many months with this system - including tips from earlier threads months ago, as pthers have also reported difficulties with fx5500 and 5200 chipsets Being on a limited income due to disability now, I can't afford to make a wrong choice again, hence request for guidance to a card with reliable drivers! I got it working once, not sure how - I was floundering around poking into anything by that time of night after many attempts over a few weeks. Then disk died so had to reinstall and total lack of success since. So I didn't bother anyone with details - just said I give up. It ain't gonna work. Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...) Oh my time has run on, this was the release/beta when I started on building up a new system.. yikes Have you seen these instructions?: http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html Oh yes, indeedy. Yup. And err... Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - When the multitude detests a man, inquiry is necessary; when the multitude likes a man, inquiry is equally necessary. Confucius, Analects (circa 6th century BC) Or more pertinently: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
M.Blackmore wrote: I've given up on trying to make a nvidia fx5500 work with Suse 10.0, can't even get it to complete installation using the graphics installer, and can't get it to start X even when using fx86config to try and set up a basic. What other video card chipset has a good driver support with suse? There was an ATI Radeon something there, but I recall ATI has had a reputation for poor support. Has this improved? (My wife dropped by the shop on a trip into town but can't remember the exact model). Almost all that seem to be in the local shop are using that super pci wotsit, but I'm about 3yrs out of date with my motherboard and haven't been keeping up with developments (so can't even remember the name of the new slot standard...) The nvidia are the best supported cards I've seen for linux, by far. They work hard to keep their linux drivers up to date, and they are responsive to the user community. They certainly keep earning my business. I've currently got a number of laptops and workstations with various nvidia graphics adapters, running suse 9.3, 10.0 and 10.1 beta, and in every case the graphics capabilities are top notch, and in fact a sine qua non for ut2004, quake 4, and all the cool xgl desktop eye candy effects on 10.1. As for ATI, their linux support is getting better, but clearly, they are not yet on par with nvidia. As a previous poster mentioned, some additional information could shed light on your problem. Have you tried the nvidia forums? They're quite helpful there. If not, I'll take the nvidia card off your hands - Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:02:28PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) No. opensuse-factory is for that. opensuse is to talk about the opensuse community. whereas suse-linux-e (SLE) is the appropriate list for problems with released versions (i.e. 10.0, 9.3, 9.2...) That is correct. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1: xgl+compiz+nvidia-8756? all video players crash
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: On Apr 28, 2006 06:17 AM, J Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, What is the secret of getting xgl desktop with working video? I saw the novell demos so I know it's gotta be possible. I have a Dell GX270 with nvidia card, and it ran suse 10 flawlessly. I did a clean install of 10.1-RC1 since I wanted to see the xgl stuff in action. I did everything as defined in the Novell cool solutions article*, and the rotating cube, transparency, and all the other compiz effects are running as advertised. Everything looks great. until I play a video. any video. Playing a realmedia file with realplayer, or an mpeg with xine or mplayer, gives the same result: the X server dies instantly the millisecond that I attempt to play the video. Is this a known issue? Surely I'm not the only one here who has tried to view a video on an xgl-enabled desktop? I'm replying to opensuse@ as well, please continue the thread there, if necessary. I didn't try with an nvidia card, I have Intel on-board video, but I get the same crash when trying to play video with the xv driver. It's because the Intel driver does not have yet the capabilities required. But the nvidia driver does. Make sure you have these options in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_XGL_OPTS=-accel glx -accel xv If -accel xv does not work for you, try -accel xv:pbuffer If still not working, open your media player without any movie and set it to use video driver xshm instead of xv. It will be much slower, but it works for certain. It's the only way to see video on my Intel 915, that does not have fbo or pbuffer capabilities in the driver. OK, the plot thickens: My Tecra M2 laptop is running 10.1 RC1 and the xgl stuff - it plays all the videos with no problems. The graphics on the laptop is (from lspci): nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M] (rev a1) The problematic desktop has the following graphics (from lspci): nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) An older chipset it seems, and it crashed on every attempted video playback, until some googling turned up some hints leading to successful video playback. If I say mplayer dancemonkeyboy.mpg it crashes instantly. However if I say mplayer -vo x11 dancemonkeyboy.mpg it plays solidly, whether being dragged around the screen, made transparent, played on the corner between 2 desktops or what have you. So clearly, some finite dimensions of the problem have emerged. I know that for some reason linux vendors won't ship anything capable of playing any popular video format, which might cause this to be disregarded, except that the problem also exists in the real player, which is shipped with suse, when playing *rm files. So, is this already a known issue, or have I stumbled onto something obscure with my particular hardware? Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving up on Nvidia fx5500 - what other pci vid card has good drivers?
On Friday 28 April 2006 17:47, houghi wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:02:28PM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: Second, this list (opensuse) deals with future releases (factory, betas and release candidates,) No. opensuse-factory is for that. opensuse is to talk about the opensuse community. Thanks for the reminder, Houghi, I'd forgotten about the additions. - Carl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
I'd really like to see something like a YaST module that provides a graphical way to work with LVM2 and evms (better that evmsgui). -- Cheers, Trey In our civilization, and under our republican form of government, intelligence is so highly honored that it is rewarded by exemption from the cares of office. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Linux laptop 2.6.16-8-smp i686 GNU/Linux 10:42pm up 2 days 3:49, 7 users, load average: 0.46, 0.57, 0.55 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE @ Google Summer of Code 2006
Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Ciaran Farrell wrote: openSUSE has just been accepted at Google Summer of Code 2006! ... We are now looking for ideas, proposals, projects, etc. around openSUSE and SUSE Linux, that could be worked on in Google Summer of Code. As the period of application for SoC is already very short, we need to get our proposals for project online May 1st, 2006, at the latest. So, for example, if you are missing a certain YaST module, or a special feature in the distribution, speak up now! Our proposals will be publish on http://en.opensuse.org/SoC2006 shortly. I'm not sure how easy or difficult this is, but how about a YaST module (either a new one, or integrated into firewall etc) to help people (parents, schools etc) set up child filters for internet browsing and e-mail. I'm told that this currently involves quite a bit of fooling around with squid-proxy and postfix, which makes it (and consequently SUSE) unattractive for at least one market segment That seems to make a lot of sense to me. I'll add it to http://en.opensuse.org/Summer_of_Code_2006 For that matter, I'd love to see a YaST module for configuring SUSE Linux to act as a terminal server (like LTSP, e.g.). Regards Christoph Me too Christoph. Because that is software project. Protecting kinds from Internet danger is project for parents that are sitting next to them and telling this is good, this is bad. Yet another filter would not help, as present options are not used. Whoever is talking about them hasn't tried to think what that filters should do and how to explain to machine (program) what is appropriate. Filters should protect kids from exactly what? Who will define what is appropriate? If you ask a whole city for an opinion than you can set all as forbidden, except phone book, and that after all inappropriate names are removed. Idea to make filter that will replace mom, dad and teacher is pointless, because nobody knows what they would like to be allowed and what not. Now we can change idea of universal filter to mom/dad configurable. I would like to see parents in action :-) Right now you have bunch of applications that allow email and web sites filtering, and how many people use that funcianality? If parents and teacher have no time to sit next to the kids, when they going to find time to learn how to use and program filters. Even if there are some of them ready to do that, what would be the point, to make parents busy with computer instead of kids. The Internet is today very similar to normal life. It is easy to get out of the home and walk in the forest. The hard part is when you meet a hungry wolf how to get rid of him. Now, who's responsibility is keeping kids far from a forest until they would be able to defend themselves? Parents or some company that makes software. If you are responsible parent would you let some software company to tell your kids what they can look? The problem is not the software, but Internet content, and expert for software is not automatically expert for content. Mom and dad are experts for that. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
