[opensuse] Xen + 3Ware SATA Raid card

[Martijn Dekkers]

Hi all,

I am trying to make OpenSuSE's Xen implementation work on an AMD
Opteron machine with a 3Ware 9650SE SATA RAID controller. OpenSuSE
does not support this card out of the box, as support for this model
is not in the 2.6.18 kernel (I think its .19 or .20 that has support),
but the driverdisk from the 3Ware site works fine.

After setup, and rebooting into the Xen kernel, the machine comes up,
drivers load (including the 3Ware driver) and then stops loading while
waiting for /dev/sda3 to appear. after a while, the system just drops
into a minimal shell which is probably still the initrd bits.

Some poking around in this shell reveals that /dev is only populated
with a minimal list, and the sdX's are not in this list.

I rebuilt the SuSE kernel (the SuSE way, with make rpm) replacing the
stock 3ware-9xxx source with 3ware's updated source, compiled all the
required stuff into the kernel so as not to need modules, and again,
this boots fine as a non-Xen system. I then tried to enable the Xen
stuff in this recompiled kernel, and reboot into this new Xen kernel.
Xen starts to load, then after a few seconds while loading it
hard-locks the machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

Martijn
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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel - OT

[Registration Account]

I totally understand your dilemma and your desire to find a software,
Linux solution.

I mentioned this OT situation as perhaps we are expecting too much from
any software. The fact that Suse can Maintain a well structured and
stable SFP Firewall is to be well appreciated.

I made the comments regarding Hardware, as I feel we expect far too much
of software to handle what is essentially a Hardware issue and one this
is very easily solved and dealt with by Hardware. Perhaps  our  search
for a software solution is not the most expeditious and most practicable
solution for addressing both Network Address Translation and maintenance
of VPN tunnels.

Hardware solution which can maintain both, like the unit I use, contain
an x86 processor and 64Meg of RAM and operate on a Unix Operating System.

I appreciate the challenge of allowing software to perform the above
duties for us and perhaps we are trying to  re-invent the wheel  where
for many many  years  we have had really god stable hardware  devices 
available.

I also think that we have been sold the wrong end of  the plug to 
resolve security issues and to maintain other duties like SPI, NAT, VPN;
by many many software companies.

Fundamentally I think  using  software to address  comms issues and
security is flawed. I think there is great merit to the idea that
security starts at the plug in the wall and ends at the desktop -
because for years - and MS (SP2) has had a great influence in our
thoughts - that comms and security issues be dealt with before we had
over comms to a Workstation and Desktop.

It a bit like trying to catch the bull after we have left the gate wide
open for it to get out.

I appreciate your healthy discussion and reply.

Kind Regards

Scott 8-)

M Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:52, Registration Account wrote:
>   
>> I am interested in your comment about Network Address Translation not
>> being happy with FTP.
>> 
>   hi Scott-- its a linux NAT thing.  It depends on your distro... and how 
> much 
> you know about NAT (configuration)...  but basically there are some services 
> that have not worked well (historically) with masquerading (the linux 
> software implementation of NAT).  Special modules were always required for 
> instance to fix irc and ftp in order to work through ip_masq.  Hardware NAT 
> may not have this problem.  The thing is that some firewalls/routers are 
> really older (very much older) linux systems using ip_masq and ip_chains, and 
> may not be setup properly with the fix modules for ftp and irc.  So, its 
> something to look into. 
>
>
>
>  
>   


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Re: [opensuse] installed-desktops

[Gavin Chester]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:57 -0700, Robert Lewis wrote:
> If I bring up Yast
> Click on: Online Update Configuration
> This brings up: Novell Customer Center Configuration
> 
> Clicked on "Details..."
> This brought up:

Not the solution you were expecting, but the way to solve this problem
is to forget about registering your system with Novell and use the
superior software management offered by 'Smart'.  You should try it, it
leaves yast for dead as far as software management goes.  Google for
'smart package management' on the suse platform and you will find useful
hints for getting the right set of repositories and have an excellent
system as a consequence.

Gavin.

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Re: [opensuse] smartd worry

[Bob S]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 00:51, Clayton wrote:
> I don"t know all about it, but I can clear up the temp thing :-)
>
> > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED
> > WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
> > 190 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   045   043   045Old_age   Always
> > FAILING_NOW 267229069367
>
> It's a table... read it like this:
>
> ID# = 190
> ATTRIBUTE_NAME = Temperature_Celsius
> FLAG = 0x0022
> VALUE = 045
> WORST = 043
> THRESH = 045
> TYPE = Old_age
> UPDATED = Always
> WHEN_FAILED = FAILING_NOW
> RAW_VALUE = 267229069367
>
> So, the temp threshold is 45 C, and it seems to be running at 43 C.
> Not sure why it"s failing on that.  Maybe someone else can step up and
> give a more detailed explanation?

Please? Someone else???
>
> I'm still digging into how to interpret the output of smartctl.
>
Well, thanks for the info, but keep on digging please, because I don't know 
where to start. If the drive were truly 190 Celsius I should probably be 
seeing flames coming out of the box.  Seriously, would really like to know 
how to fix this.

Bob S.
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[opensuse] Fwd: Newbie ask to set up Bluetooth DUN

[Halomoan Gultom]

Hi All,
I've installed Opensuse 10.2, when I set up bluetooth DUN by #rfcomm
bind 0 hp_adr 1 receive message something like "unable to add
device.not permitted".

Any suggestion are highly appreciate.

Thanks, hg
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Word for all of us... [OT]

[M Harris]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 14:45, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Just for curiosity: How did you objectively compare the two and what
> made suse better?
>
> I am working with both and, seriously, I cannot say, which is
> objectively better. Even from a subjective view, I fear, I cannot tell.
The drivers are not as complete in Ubuntu... I have hardware that will 
not 
load Ubuntu... openSUSE loads just fine.

Yast makes the Ubuntu installer look like a rock... and frankly... the 
Yast 
installer is more intuitive, better organized, better automated, and more 
reliable... so far in my experience. 

openSUSE is way more complete... and what I mean by that is that it 
ships 
with far more packages.  Yeah, yeah, Ubuntu ships on one CD... big deal. 

And unless you go with Kubuntu, the gnome desktop experience of Ubuntu 
as 
objectively compared with the kde experience of openSUSE is disappointing.  
Not to mention that the base distro of openSUSE gives the user the choice of 
desktops... Ubuntu has just one... and its not the best.

And this is my personal favorite... after I loaded Ubuntu (forgetting 
to load 
gcc at install time) I went back and installed gcc from the install media... 
and then compiled "hello world" with terrible errors... libs not found.  
After manually installing and installing and installing  I finally got all 
the pieces installed to successfully compile "hello world".   Forget to 
install gcc in Yast... no big deal... simply select the category and go... 
correctly finds all dependencies, pieces parts, and installs  no hits no runs 
to errors   and "hello world" compiles the first time.  I guess this is 
just another Yast kudo.   

There is more desktop/system integration in openSUSE.  I know that much 
of 
this is kde, but a great deal of this is the touches openSUSE has made to the 
desktop, yast, control panel, utilities and so forth... its just more 
seamless... and yet its very intuitive and easily customized.  Well, ok, some 
of this is subjective on my part...   ;-)



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Re: [opensuse] Word for all of us... [OT]

[Mike McMullin]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 14:09 -0500, M Harris wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 11:13, Russell Jones wrote:
> > There are far more important criteria for choosing a distribution than
> > how nicey-nicey people are.
>   This is very true ...
> 
>   ... and very wrong.
> 
>   At this point in time the openSUSE distro is "better" for several 
> technical 
> reasons than Ubuntu (I have objectively compared both and the 
> state-of-the-art definitely favors openSUSE at this point in time) however, 
> the Ubuntu "community" is bending over backwards to make "people" feel warm 
> and fuzzy all over to get them to consider switching over (yes to FOSS) from 
> M$ to Linux.  "People" feel good about Ubuntu... is it the best distro? NO. 
> Is it the number (1) ONE distro... Yes.  (you do the math)  

  It's not just the warm fuzzies, it's also in how the community creates
scripts for packages of non-OSS stuff or even the dread multimedia
stuff, or  Web-Cam stuff.  Ubuntu is shooting for the easy to
establish desktop and use desktop, the rest of us can take a page or two
from their note-book.

>   Fred's point is very helpful, if you can get past your arrogance long 
> enough 
> to get your head (and heart) around it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> M Harris <><

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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[Rajko M.]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 22:41, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> I think the only hypothesis supported by this observation is something
> related to the electronics. Possibly a damaged cable or out-of-spec bus
> driver circuits on the mainboard or in the disk drive.

It is.

The board runs fine with another Western Digital that is at maximum transfer 
rate that board supports, cable is the same and the connector is now used for 
WD drive, so culprit is controller on the disk drive. 

Is that manufacturing or design flaw I can't tell, but disk is still alive.  

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Re: [opensuse] Critical Sound Problem - very deep level - help needed !

[Alexey Eremenko]

Should I move to OSS instead of ALSA completely, for my case ?

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Re: [opensuse] Beagle and Indexing Zips

[Joe Shaw]

Hi,

On 4/18/07, Carl William Spitzer IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have heard a lot about beagle good but mostly bad.  I need an index of
my article collection which is mostly in text files spread across
multiple zip files.

Does Beagle penetrate such things or do I need another tool?


The version which ships with openSUSE 10.2 (0.2.12) doesn't, but the
newer version (0.2.16.3) available here does:

   http://software.opensuse.org/download/Beagle/openSUSE_10.2/

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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 20:27, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 04:15, Clayton wrote:
> ...
>
> > I'm assuming the drive is unrecoverable (ie it's not worth risking
> > my data to try and run the Maxtor tools on it and "repair" the
> > drive)... so it's up for replacement in the next week or so.
>
> You may try to slow down the drive.
> I got one that was about to fail, but decreasing the speed, using
> Maxtor utilities, from 66 to 33 helped and it still runs.

I think the only hypothesis supported by this observation is something 
related to the electronics. Possibly a damaged cable or out-of-spec bus 
driver circuits on the mainboard or in the disk drive.


> --
> Regards, Rajko.


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[opensuse] Beagle and Indexing Zips

[Carl William Spitzer IV]

I have heard a lot about beagle good but mostly bad.  I need an index of
my article collection which is mostly in text files spread across
multiple zip files.

Does Beagle penetrate such things or do I need another tool?

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Re: [opensuse] Adding biometric security to a computer [getting OT]

[Carl William Spitzer IV]

On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:52 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> By the way... I know of at least one e-commerce institution that does not 
> accept credit card payment from Internet. It has to be bank transfer, or 
> postal payment on arrival (which is more expensive). I wonder why.

Either better laws protecting their interest of the cards vig is too
much.  Local donut shops charge extra fees to use ATM and try with the
credit cards, though the latter is illegal.  


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[opensuse] Streched Page on Acrobat and Kivio

[Ciro Iriarte]

Hi,

I'm having a weird issue with Kivio and Adobe Acrobat, all the pages
look streched. If a normal A4 page should look like this:

---
| |
| |
---

I see it like this:


|  |
|  |
|  |
|  |


Anybody seen this?

OS: Opensuse 10.2 (x86_64) with latest patches
HW: Dell Inspiron 6400

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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE

[Rajko M.]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 20:03, scsijon wrote:
> At 10:20 AM 4/18/2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >The Sunday 2007-04-15 at 20:59 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> > > On Sunday 15 April 2007 19:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > > I'm sure that's being addressed. The fstab and grub will not break,
> > > > at least.
> > >
> > > The default fstab doesn't look like it was before in 10.3 Alpha.
> > > There is no /dev/sdX, but long disk name ending with part1,2,3 etc.
> >
> >Like this one?
> >
> >/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3320620A_5QF2M56F-part15
> >
> >I mount some of my partitions that way (in /etc/cryptotab), and some by
> >label (in /etc/fstab):
> >
> >LABEL=320_boot1   /boot   ext2   noatime,acl,user_xattr  0 0
> >
> >both systems are independent of how or where the disk is mounted.
> >
> >
> >- --
> >Cheers,
> >Carlos E. R.
>
> Carlos (and others (?aj)), can you check / could you check / have you
> checked?
>
> if you had the drive listed above die and had to use a new drive
> and reload from a backup (simple to do to here)
>
> ?would the id part "5QF2M56F" have to be changed (I suspect this is
> the drive's internal I.D.) for it to work?

By now you should have used YaST to include drive in system and you have exact 
naming already in a fstab, but to avoid problems with backup scripts, I would 
use second form LABEL= as all you have to do is to write label 
to a new drive, format it and it will be ready for restore. 
...

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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE

[Rajko M.]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Sunday 2007-04-15 at 20:59 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Sunday 15 April 2007 19:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > I'm sure that's being addressed. The fstab and grub will not break, at
> > > least.
> >
> > The default fstab doesn't look like it was before in 10.3 Alpha.
> > There is no /dev/sdX, but long disk name ending with part1,2,3 etc.
>
> Like this one?
>
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3320620A_5QF2M56F-part15
>
> I mount some of my partitions that way (in /etc/cryptotab), and some by
> label (in /etc/fstab):
>
> LABEL=320_boot1   /boot   ext2   noatime,acl,user_xattr  0 0
>
> both systems are independent of how or where the disk is mounted.

Yes. 
The first one is default, but I changed it to something that I know how to 
handle :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[eshsf]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:53:40 -0400
James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:01, eshsf wrote:
> >   
> >> ...
> >>
> >> 
> >>> You may try to slow down the drive.
> >>> I got one that was about to fail, but decreasing the speed, using
> >>> Maxtor utilities, from 66 to 33 helped and it still runs.
> >>>   
> >> Probably, the decreasing speed problem is because the HDD controller
> >> changed a bad sector into a spare sector. and the spare sector
> >> possibility don't optimize to seek, I guess.
> >> 
> >
> > What would be the relationship between bus transfer rate and seek time? 
> > None that I can think of.
> >
> >   
> Maybe he's talking about how fast the disks spin.  ;-)

I did misread Rajko's mail. never mind.



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Re: [opensuse] Grub won't boot Windoze

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2007-04-18 19:55, Mike McCallister wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:09, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>
>   
 
 
>> Is that XP? If so, you should not need to remap the drives at all. Where
>> was it originally installed? To the first partition on the second drive?
>> (D: in Windows-speak). If so, then your Windows section should read:
>>
>> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
>> chainloader (hd1,0) +1
>> 
Based on what you said, this is what your menu entry for XP should be. I
believe you had instead (hd0,0) in the chainloader entry. Since that
brings up a grub window, you seem to have grub installed to the boot
sector of /dev/hda1 rather than to the MBR of /dev/hda (it may have been
installed there too, but that is not what you are seeing after trying to
boot into Windows).

Instead, the menu entry I saw set (hd1,0) as the root (with the
rootnoverify command), but then loaded the first sector of (hd0,0) with
"chainloader (hd0,0) +1". This is clearly incorrect.

Just another note: Having just checked the grub documentation (info
grub, you may wish to peruse that document, as it is rather
comprehensive), I see that you can also use this:

rootnoverify (hd1,0)
chainloader +1




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Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

[Tom Patton]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 07:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > 
> And I don't understand how this became about submitting patches to the
> kernel?   It began as someone's diatribe against Evolution because of
> what they thought they saw in their Bugzilla and my pointing out this
> was bogus;  Evolution is an application, not a kernel module.
> Personally, I want the standards for kernel code to be brutal - it is
> the base of the pillar.  Even so, the number of contributors to the
> kernel manages to be pretty high.
> 
I agree with your hope that the kernel remains in effect behind a
critical block wall, patched with extreme caution...

And this began with me thanking the Evolution guys for the password fix.
It was hijacked from that thought onward...

But I'll say again, Thanks!

Tom in NM


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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE - A different slant

[scsijon]

At 06:36 AM 4/18/2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On 4/15/07, scsijon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 08:56 AM 4/15/2007, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>On 2007-04-14 16:07, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > What will happen after "sdX" reaches from sda to sdz ? i.e. if you
> > have over 26 hard disks in your system ?
> >
>If you have that many in your system, I think you should consider
>replacing some of them with much larger drives ;-)

THIS IS NOT A FLAME, but

personally this change seriously makes me worry

I have scripts and software that create drives with links to those in other
systems as part of the security and backup routines I use, some are to
scsi drives, some are ide  and some sata, the drive type in most cases
relates to the function performed on the site or spanning sites

Before I can consider going to 10.3 :-
 I shall have to scan, amend, rewrite, binfile at least 20
scripts for cross connection, another 38 for backup and seven security
 plus workout how I get around the drive type and now
limited drive identity\numbers problem
and that's just the linux side, how my mini's deal with it I am yet 
to imagine,

thankfully I don't have any mainframes any more. I also suspect it means
some ten to twelve thousand dollars additional hardware needed per site,
say a quarter of a million dollars plus extra at the four centres and spares
of course.

I wouldn't of minded the change if the old way worked as well (dual modes)
until things were changed with a boot script "software switch"

I'd also would have liked some warning, (and I suspect others in the same
boat would also have,) well in advance this type of change was going to
happen, surely someone was aware this major change was coming and
could have put out a notice to users/programmers. It's not as if this is a
minor change hda has been around since the ST408/512 drive chains were
created

It means I have at least 200 hours of work ahead in mapping out the changes
needed, let alone arranging things like programming, testing, reviewing,
issuing, checking...etc., say another hundred or so thousand dollars

Well there goes my holiday this year again, and just as I thought things were
finally starting to slow down. I am suppose to be semi-retired

It also means 10.2 will have to last at least two years when we
implement it at
Christmas 07, replacing 8

Maybe we should think sled, but we don't have the money for both, we are
?suppose to be self sufficent and non-profit!

scsijon


I was just thinking about how a new OS release is going to cost you a
huge amount of time and money.   Basically the reason is you are using
a Linux Enthusiasts distro as a datacenter solution which you are
apparently investing millions of dollars of
hardware/software/customization around.

You should really evaluate SLES 10.0.  It is expensive compared to
OpenSUSE, but it is extremely cheap compared to what you describe.  If
you implemented it now you would have another 4 years or so of
supported service.  (iirc)

Greg
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to answer a number of comments together.

1/
unfortunately I have "absolutely" no control or input in the software 
, I fought

and lost this battle when SLES9 came out and we were using 7.2. I have been
given some control on the hardware $$ though, so the users are at least not
using P2's any more and have decent screens (35w 19"LCD vs 340w 17" tube
power use, does talk money saving in the budget meeting).

2/
the scripts are unfortunately messy and due to a level of management paranoia,
have to be individually coded else there would only be three.

They contain test and checks against failure of hardware and cross site links
and include such bits as disabling / enabling backup links in the 
routers if paths
fail. e.g. backups go to two remote devices (one interstate) as well 
as the local

tape silo.

3/
With downsizing that has happened due to the net, i've been waiting for site
shutdowns to ocurr, but they seem to prefer to use the, "large number of sites
with small number of staff in each model", at least.

scsijon


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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE

[scsijon]

At 10:20 AM 4/18/2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


The Sunday 2007-04-15 at 20:59 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:

> On Sunday 15 April 2007 19:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> > I'm sure that's being addressed. The fstab and grub will not break, at
> > least.
>
> The default fstab doesn't look like it was before in 10.3 Alpha.
> There is no /dev/sdX, but long disk name ending with part1,2,3 etc.

Like this one?

/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3320620A_5QF2M56F-part15

I mount some of my partitions that way (in /etc/cryptotab), and some by
label (in /etc/fstab):

LABEL=320_boot1   /boot   ext2   noatime,acl,user_xattr  0 0

both systems are independent of how or where the disk is mounted.


- --
Cheers,
   Carlos E. R.



Carlos (and others (?aj)), can you check / could you check / have you checked?

if you had the drive listed above die

and had to use a new drive

and reload from a backup (simple to do to here)

?would the id part "5QF2M56F" have to be changed (I suspect this is 
the drive's internal I.D.) for it to work?


It looks like a good additional level for security but does worry me 
for device failure rework.


thanks


It would also allow all of drives to exist on a site to be available 
to the workstation as part of the start process (i.e. workstation 
with swap partition only and all others on a server matrix of drives) 
coded from grub


scsijon

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Re: [opensuse] Grub won't boot Windoze

[Mike McCallister]

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:09, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

> >> 
>
> Is that XP? If so, you should not need to remap the drives at all. Where
> was it originally installed? To the first partition on the second drive?
> (D: in Windows-speak). If so, then your Windows section should read:
>
> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
> chainloader (hd1,0) +1
>
> If it was installed to C: instead (which I presume is the first
> partition of the first drive), then this should read:
>
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> chainloader (hd0,0) +1
>
> You can add "makeactive" between the two lines if you wish, but unless
> you are also booting a DOS-like OS (eg. Win98), it is absolutely
> unnecessary to do so. XP (or 2K) should already have made the partition
> active when you installed that.

Darryl,

If you're asking where Grub is installed, I'm not sure. XP is installed on its 
own physical drive, /dev/sda (aka hd1 in device.map). SUSE is installed 
on /dev/hda (aka hd0). Grub initially had just the plain rootnoverify and 
chainloader lines (and I think I've tried all the hd0 and hd0 permutations 
for those lines, and XP still won't boot.

I did remove the makeactive line from menu.lst after your note, but that 
didn't make any difference.

The fact that I get a second Grub window when I choose to boot XP might be a 
clue, perhaps. I was playing with all sorts of settings in YaST, and I'm 
starting to wonder whether I've got a copy of Grub on each physical drive. 
I'm not sure how I'd remove the copy on the NTFS drive, though. Thoughts 
appreciated.

Mike McCallister

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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel

[Peter Van Lone]

On 4/18/07, Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> erroneously and
egregiously wrote:

Second -- I prefer to point people to filezilla, as it is published
under the GPL - winscp is not:


well shit ...

I have to retract my comment. I was certain that winscp was a closed
source product ... at least that is what I have believed for a couple
years, now.

But, I just checked, and I find:

"License

WinSCP is free, open-source software, and is distributed under the GNU
General Public License (GPL). [More"

I am really sorry. I still also like filezilla, but I have to take
back all the things I've said about winscp.

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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel

[Peter Van Lone]

On 4/18/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Matthew Stringer wrote:
> True SCP is preferable but I have users running a Win32 program that
> only uses FTP so I can't use SFTP or SCP or anything else here. All
> machines are on the internet, no NAT'ing or internal networks here.

Any chance you can get them to use WinSCP?  It's a fairly user-friendly
Windows SCP/SFTP/FTP client.
http://winscp.net/eng/index.php


First -- Can't you see the text that you quoted from the OP? His users
have *some win32 app* that uses FTP -- my guess is he means that the
win32 app has an ftp process built into it..

Second -- I prefer to point people to filezilla, as it is published
under the GPL - winscp is not:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

works great, easy to use -- all the advantages of winscp and GPL, too

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Re: [opensuse] segfaults kde 3.5.6-10.13

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-18-07 20:26]:
> I am getting segfaults, kernel & X display, frequently.  They appear
> to be related to kde but I'm not sure yet.  I have switched to xfce
> and have noticed no problems, but withhold judgement until I can be
> more sure.  
> 
> The faults:
> 
> Apr 18 19:46:16 wahoo kernel: X[30183]: segfault at 2b29bf0dba24
> rip 2b29bea50300 rsp 7fffeeab4960 error 4
> 
> Apr 18 19:46:17 wahoo kdm[8456]: X server for display :0 terminated
> unexpectedly
> 
> Apr 18 19:46:17 wahoo gconfd (pat-31490): Received signal 15, shutting
> down cleanly
> 
> The memory location is never the same but the error 4 is.
> 
> Three times today, twice yesterday according to /var/log/messages.  It
> seems like more.
> 
> kde 3.5.6-10.13
> openSUSE 10.1 X86_64
> Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI nForce 4 SLI
> AMD x86_64 4200+ X2
> 4GB
> kernel-default-2.6.18.8-396.1
> 
> reverted to kernel-default-2.6.18.8-379.1, but same problem.
> 
> more information available if needed.
> 
> Could it be a memory module and, if so, why only X and not the
> computer crashing ??
> 
> btw, X restarts automagically.


MORE INFO:

It's not kde, happened again:

Apr 18 20:58:23 wahoo kdm[8456]: X server for display :0 terminated
unexpectedly

Apr 18 20:58:23 wahoo gconfd (pat-20457): Received signal 15, shutting
down cleanly

Apr 18 20:58:23 wahoo gconfd (pat-20457): Exiting

Happened 5 times yesterday, 7 times so far today and 16 times since
the first of March this year.

It is only X this time, not kernel.

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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel

[David Brodbeck]

Matthew Stringer wrote:
> True SCP is preferable but I have users running a Win32 program that
> only uses FTP so I can't use SFTP or SCP or anything else here. All
> machines are on the internet, no NAT'ing or internal networks here.

Any chance you can get them to use WinSCP?  It's a fairly user-friendly
Windows SCP/SFTP/FTP client.
http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[David Brodbeck]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
>   
>> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
>> 
>
> LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> Except that it is, now. The name describes it's original status as a 
> executive program that didn't actually perform the MP3 encoding it does 
> now.
>   

"Following the great history of GNU naming, LAME originally stood for 
LAME Ain't an Mp3 Encoder. LAME started life as a GPL'd patch against
the dist10 ISO demonstration source, and thus was incapable of producing
an mp3 stream or even being compiled by itself." (from
http://lame.sourceforge.net/about.php)

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[opensuse] segfaults kde 3.5.6-10.13

[Patrick Shanahan]

I am getting segfaults, kernel & X display, frequently.  They appear
to be related to kde but I'm not sure yet.  I have switched to xfce
and have noticed no problems, but withhold judgement until I can be
more sure.  

The faults:

Apr 18 19:46:16 wahoo kernel: X[30183]: segfault at 2b29bf0dba24
rip 2b29bea50300 rsp 7fffeeab4960 error 4

Apr 18 19:46:17 wahoo kdm[8456]: X server for display :0 terminated
unexpectedly

Apr 18 19:46:17 wahoo gconfd (pat-31490): Received signal 15, shutting
down cleanly

The memory location is never the same but the error 4 is.

Three times today, twice yesterday according to /var/log/messages.  It
seems like more.

kde 3.5.6-10.13
openSUSE 10.1 X86_64
Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI nForce 4 SLI
AMD x86_64 4200+ X2
4GB
kernel-default-2.6.18.8-396.1

reverted to kernel-default-2.6.18.8-379.1, but same problem.

more information available if needed.

Could it be a memory module and, if so, why only X and not the
computer crashing ??

btw, X restarts automagically.

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Re: [opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-18-07 13:01]:
>   
>> Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
>> 
>>> Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo.
>>>   
>> these applications have very convenient native installers (from the 
>> own site), so no real need to go through openSUSE for them
>> 
>
> BETTER to go to openSUSE buildservice for the updates, then we will
> not have nearly as many questions about particular changes suseusers
> have applied that are not available or "don't work" the same.  Brings
> to mind the very long threads about the "Reply-to-List" function no
> being available on thunderburd mailer.
>
>   
All the latest Firebird and Thunderbird:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2/x86_64/

For Yast use:

http://software.opensuse.org/download/mozilla/openSUSE_10.2/

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[opensuse] laptop installation woes

[dwain]

i have installed opensuse 10.2 on my laptop at least 6 times and i 
either boot into a black screen or i boot into the command line.


i select the kde desk top and get rid of beagle, zmd and kerry at the 
package choices.  the install usually goes pretty smooth.  all of my 
hardware gets recognized.  then i hit finish and everything shuts down 
and goes to a blank screen or reboots into the command line.


only once did i get the gui and when i tried to sign in as root it said 
the password was incorrect.


hp pavillion dv5000z, amd sempron 2.0ghz processor, 1gb ram, ati radeon 
200m graphics card and i forget what the sound card and modem are, but 
they are of the same manufacturer.


any ideas as to why the gui won't boot or the system shuts down?

i had to reinstall windoze xp pro.  i hate it

dwain
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Re: [opensuse] Critical Sound Problem - very deep level - help needed !

[Robert Lewis]

On 4/18/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi all !

My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ?

Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware,
VIA 8237 audio.
That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to
produce noise.
- the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! !

I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no
sound at all ! ! !

That is very old bug, affecting SUSE Linux 10.0 and maybe earlier...
link:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263022

Platform: openSUSE 10.2, 32-bit, AMD Sempron, VIA KM400 chipset, VIA
8237 audio, 1GB of RAM.

Things that help:
-Reboot into Windows, (windows drivers seem to restart my audio hardware)
-System shutdown via init 0, and then cold-start

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I would suggest downloading the latest beta drivers from the alsa web
site.  Compiling and installing them to see if that corrects your
issue.  Otherwise to eliminate further frustration on one of my sound
issues I purchased for $16 a sound blaster live card and eliminated
the
sound card hardware giving me problems.  Haven't had an issues since
and the $$$ were far less than further frustration and time sorting it
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Re: [opensuse] *help* Built 2.6.20 kernel - boots fine, no keyboard, no mouse, no network

[Thomas Hertweck]

david rankin wrote:
> From: "Thomas Hertweck"
>> [... create link linux->linux-2.6.20 ...]
>>
>> That should not be necessary.
> 
> Sorry, everything I have read, said do it, so I just did it

In principle, the link "/usr/src/linux" is not required at all and has
mainly historical reasons. It's nowadays only used for convenience.

> [...]
> The machine boots just fine on 2.6.20.6 and 2.6.20.7, the only problems are 
> (1) keyboard; (2) mouse; and (3) network. Everything else works fine 
> (Apache, MySQL, smb, nmb, sata, etc...)

Well, you cloned the old configuration, so all that stuff that worked in
the old kernel should be available in the new kernel as well. However,
it does not work at the moment, so there must be a problem which indeed
could be related

> o  udev   081 # udevinfo -V

...to udev. udev is responsible for creating and removing device nodes,
renaming network interfaces, etc. If devices were missing, then this
would of course explain why some of your components (mouse, etc.) do not
work. However, other components seem to work, so it's not failing
completely or in a consistent way which does not allow any accurate
conclusion.

All your problematic components are hardware-related, so I am not
surprised that apache, mysql etc. work as expected - that's all pure
software, isn't it?

> Out of the entire list, the only requirement I did not update was udev 
> because the documentation said it was not a good idea. 

Well, udev is a core component and I would agree that messing around
with udev is not such a good idea ;-) I am not really sure what advice
to give in this situation, maybe others can contribute their point of
view in this discussion.

Cheers, Th.

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Re: [opensuse] One partition is not working !!!!

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Thursday 2007-04-19 at 02:18 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> It is an ext3 filesystem. Think it would be best to make a copy of the disc 
> and I have to find out how to make a raw copy of the partition which I can 
> not mount.
> When I used e2fsck it told:

You should have made the copy before doing the fsck run, now it is 
modified, and you can not back from those modifications.

image backup:

dd if=/dev/hdXY of=image_hdXY

And, you can run fsck on the image instead of on the real data, and test 
out different strategies.


> Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hdd2
> The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck.
> (Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)
> 
> 
> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
> e2fsck -b 8193 
> 
> e2fsck -b 8193 it tells me:

You can not simply plug in that number without really knowing before hand 
that there is a superblock in there. It is an example!


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Re: [opensuse] Where is wlan-kmp for 2.6.18.8 kernel

[HG]

Hi!

On 4/17/07, Marcus Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 12:53:11PM +0100, Mr Banana wrote:
> Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Mr Banana wrote:
> >> Courtesy of YUM I've just been updated to the 2.6.18.8 kernel but there 
are no
> >> corresponding kernel modules at this level, where do I get the correct
> >> wlan-kmp-default-1_2.6.18.8-0.1?
> >
> > The old ones will continue to work as-is even without upgrade.
>
> Well I was getting missing symbol errors so I thought that the packages were
> out of sync. Turns out that the ieee80211 module was not being loaded first - 
not
> sure how it would have lost that dependency in the kernel upgrade.

The depmod run should have been taking care of this.

Ciao, Marcus
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Sorry guys to ask such a stupid guestion... I've just installed 10.2
to 3 computers (2 x 32bit + 64bit) within a week. All of them had
wireless (2 desktops, one with USB another with some card and laptop
with 3COM 3CRPAG175 PCMCIA card). After the updates, they all have
2.6.18.8-0.1 kernel I guess. Is this why WLAN is not working at all in
any of them?
At least the 3COM did work previously in 10.0 _and_with the 10.2
command line installer that asked if I wanted to use that card for
FTP-installation! But the final installed system doesn't recognize it
at all (I did the install by using wired ethernet).

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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel

[Matthew Stringer]

M Harris wrote:

On Tuesday 17 April 2007 17:02, Matthew Stringer wrote:

What I'm hoping to achieve is to create a bastion host box that allows SSH
connections from anywhere, I can then create users on that box who'll be
able to create an SSH tunnel to the FTP machines.

I have not run ftp /or telnet in production for years.

	... the ssh tunnel is ok, but you could try scp instead of ftp. 

	In your situation you might try passive ftp... but either way its not the 
best.  From the looks of things the passive connection back is not working.  
Standard ftp requires two sockets... one to make the connection (commands) 
and the other to transmit the data... looks like the data socket isn't 
authorized or is failing for some other reason. Are the boxes behind a 
firewall on an 192.168 network using NAT (masquerading)?  FTP does not 
masquerade well without the ftp fix. 

	But back to my first point...  really, IMHO you would do well to try scp.  I 
move files on my systems (even to the outside) exclusively with scp... its 
the secure copy that ships with ssh can be compressed, encrypted, and 
frankly is more flexible than FTP IMO.



True SCP is preferable but I have users running a Win32 program that 
only uses FTP so I can't use SFTP or SCP or anything else here. All 
machines are on the internet, no NAT'ing or internal networks here.


What I don't understand is that if I use ftp -A localhost -p x it 
still tries the passive mode rather than forcing active.


Matthew

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[opensuse] 3Com 3CRPAG175 not recognized anymore by 10.2?

[HG]

Hi!

I updated my laptop from 10.0 to 10.2 just. Actually, I did a clean
ftp-install from starting from the kernel from boot-iso. The installer
recognized the 3COM PCMCIA card as well as my wired Ethernet - it
asked which one I want to use for installing. I installed by using the
wired connection.

But I was surprised in the end that the final installed 10.2 didn't
anymore know anything about the 3CRPAG175! It had lost the knowledge
that the installer had. Why? How can I get that back? (And yes, there
should be nothing wrong with it as it worked just fine right out of
the box of 10.0...)

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[opensuse] Critical Sound Problem - very deep level - help needed !

[Alexey Eremenko]

hi all !

My uptime in Linux doesn't really go over 2 days... why ?

Because there is some very deep driver issue with my audio hardware,
VIA 8237 audio.
That is when working, my sound system suddenly fails, and starts to
produce noise.
- the problem is so deep that even "init 6" - full restart doesn't helps ! !

I still hear that noise even in GRUB Bootloader, where should be no
sound at all ! ! !

That is very old bug, affecting SUSE Linux 10.0 and maybe earlier...
link:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263022

Platform: openSUSE 10.2, 32-bit, AMD Sempron, VIA KM400 chipset, VIA
8237 audio, 1GB of RAM.

Things that help:
-Reboot into Windows, (windows drivers seem to restart my audio hardware)
-System shutdown via init 0, and then cold-start

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[opensuse] installed-desktops

[Robert Lewis]

If I bring up Yast
Click on: Online Update Configuration
This brings up: Novell Customer Center Configuration

Clicked on "Details..."
This brought up:

* Novell login credentials:
* Processor type: (command: uname -p)
* Hardware platform type: (command: uname -i)
* Hostname: (command: uname -n)
* CPU details: (command: hwinfo --cpu)
* DSL details: (command: hwinfo --dsl)
* Graphics card details: (command: hwinfo --gfxcard)
* ISDN details: (command: hwinfo --isdn)
* Memory: (command: hwinfo --memory)
* Sound card data: (command: hwinfo --sound)
* Installed Desktop Environment: (command: installed-desktops)

Information on Novell's Privacy Policy:
Submit information to help you manage your registered systems.
http://www.novell.com/company/policies/privacy/textonly.html

All the commands worked as stated except for "Installed-desktops"
which does not show up on my system.

Cheers,
Bob
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Kai Ponte]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 08:01:34 am James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> >> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
> >
> > LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> That's a lame excuse.  ;-)
>

IIRC, the name was (a) a play on words similar to GNU in that it is a 
recursive acronym and (b) specifically directed at Frauenhofer telling them 
it does not violate any of their so-called patents.


In fact, come to think of it GNU does the same thing - Gnu is Not Unix.

lol - forgot about that one!

...and here we are at the County running in-house software called

Your Online Document Archive, Visual Analysis Definition Extraction Repository 
and we just came up with Job Expendedure Download Information. 


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[opensuse] Re: Word for all of us... [OT]

[Eberhard Roloff]

M Harris wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 11:13, Russell Jones wrote:
>> There are far more important criteria for choosing a distribution than
>> how nicey-nicey people are.
>   This is very true ...
> 
>   ... and very wrong.
> 
>   At this point in time the openSUSE distro is "better" for several 
> technical 
> reasons than Ubuntu (I have objectively compared both and the 
> state-of-the-art definitely favors openSUSE at this point in time) however, 
> the Ubuntu "community" is bending over backwards to make "people" feel warm 
> and fuzzy all over to get them to consider switching over (yes to FOSS) from 
> M$ to Linux.  "People" feel good about Ubuntu... is it the best distro? NO. 
> Is it the number (1) ONE distro... Yes.  (you do the math)  
> 
>   Fred's point is very helpful, if you can get past your arrogance long 
> enough 
> to get your head (and heart) around it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Just for curiosity: How did you objectively compare the two and what
made suse better?

I am working with both and, seriously, I cannot say, which is
objectively better. Even from a subjective view, I fear, I cannot tell.

regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] One partition is not working !!!!

[Greg Freemyer]

On 4/18/07, Constant Brouerius van Nidek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thursday 19 April 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Thursday 2007-04-19 at 00:37 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> > I tried to mount this partition on /mnt but got following info:
> >
> > # mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd2,
> >missing codepage or other error
> >In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> >dmesg | tail  or so
>
> What filesystem was it? Have you fsck-ed it?
>
> --
> Cheers,
Dear   Carlos,
It is an ext3 filesystem. Think it would be best to make a copy of the disc
and I have to find out how to make a raw copy of the partition which I can
not mount.
When I used e2fsck it told:

Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hdd2
The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck.
(Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)


The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 

e2fsck -b 8193 it tells me:

Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdd2

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 


What does the 8193 represent?  If it is a block group number, then
finding the block groups with suberblocks can be a bit of a challenge.

If I recall correctly ext2 breaks a disk into block groups.
Originally (1995 or so) every block group had a copy of the
superblock.

This became unreasonable on big disks, so they implemented a rather
unusual distribution.

Number the block groups  1,2,3, etc.  If the block group number is a
power of 3, 5, or 7, then it gets a superblock.  If not, it does not.

ie. Block groups 1,3,5,7,9,25,27,49,81,125,... have a superblock, the
rest don't.

I had not seen a algorithm like that before, but it puts a lot of
superblock copies towards the front of the disk, but also has them
distributed across the partition.  Especially if you have a lot of
corruption at the front of the partition you may need to know the
above to find superblocks further into the partition.

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Re: [opensuse] Receiving 'Another kind of firewall is active on your system.' message from yast

[Jeff Lanzarotta]

Ha, good question... This issue is actually on a friend of mine's PC. I
am trying to help him out as he is a very novice Linux user. So with
that, there is no telling why these were set. :)

I am curious as to how these actually got set in the first place. If I
get a chance, I will peruse the log files and see what I can find.

Again, thanks for the tip...

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> On 2007-04-18 11:07, Jeff Lanzarotta wrote:
> > OK, I did an:
> > 'iptables --flush INPUT'
> > 'iptables --flush FORWARD'
> > 'iptables --flush OUTPUT'
> >
> > It removed the firewall related errors.
> >
> > Thanks for the tip.
> That begs the question, what created those iptables entries in the
> first
> place? You may be able to answer that by looking at the various
> logfiles, the syslog config file (which by default in SuSELinux is
> syslog-ng), and perhaps by examining the boot scripts (use grep, for
> example, to check for the text BANDWIDTH_OUT, etc, case sensitive).
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Richard Bos]

Op Wednesday 18 April 2007 03:44:43 schreef Stevens:
> It's been a while since I wanted to do this, but what's the
> best way to convert a WAV file to .mp3? FYI, am running
> Suse 10.2.

konqueror and type in its location bar:
audiocd:/
This provides a virtual file system to many different audio formats.

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Re: [opensuse] One partition is not working !!!!

[Constant Brouerius van Nidek]

On Thursday 19 April 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Thursday 2007-04-19 at 00:37 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> > I tried to mount this partition on /mnt but got following info:
> >
> > # mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd2,
> >missing codepage or other error
> >In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> >dmesg | tail  or so
>
> What filesystem was it? Have you fsck-ed it?
>
> --
> Cheers,
Dear   Carlos,
It is an ext3 filesystem. Think it would be best to make a copy of the disc 
and I have to find out how to make a raw copy of the partition which I can 
not mount.
When I used e2fsck it told:

Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hdd2
The filesystem revision is apparently too high for this version of e2fsck.
(Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)


The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 

e2fsck -b 8193 it tells me:

Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdd2

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 


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[opensuse] Re: Internet access through Firefox

[Eberhard Roloff]

Bikram Chatterjee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It might be a very trivial problem but as I am quite new to Linux, I
> can figure it out myself.
> 
> I have SuSE 10.1 x86_64. I can access internet through Konquror only.
> None of the other browsers are working. I have Installed Firefox (the
> latest version available) but the result is all the same.
> 
> Except Konqurer all the other browsers are having timeout in HTTP request.
> 
> I would appreciate your guidence very much. Please throw some light to it.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Bikram Chatterjee
just a wild guess:
You have configured a proxy in konqueror that you did not setup in
firefox, opera, you name it?

hth+regards
Eberhard

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[opensuse] Re: openSUSE 10.2 under QEMU on WinXP

[Eberhard Roloff]

Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Qemu is optimized for old OSes, such as Win9x.
> 
> To run modern OSes, try to get VirtualBox.
> 
> link:
> www.virtualbox.org
> 
> link2: VirtualBox on openSUSE guide:
> http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/virtualbox.html
> 
> -Alexey "Technologov"
alternatively, there is also vmware server, free as in free beer, but
working great, even on windows. ;-))

regards
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[opensuse] Re: Great News ! Lessons for Lizards book available for online browse!

[Eberhard Roloff]

Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> hi all !
> 
> Excellent new thing happened: Lessons for Lizards (LfL) is now
> publicly available for online web browsing !
> 

Great! After a short overview, I found it to be a great book, indeed!

> LfL is a new community-based documentation book, that covers many
> topic, including the sexy topics, such as "VirtualBox" virtualization
> and "Looking Glass 3D" - 3D desktop, both of whom are alternatives to
> the more widely known Xen virtualization and Compiz 3D desktop !

Wow. Sun's Looking Glass in a opensuse related book, I am amazed.
> 
> I wrote most of the topics in the book, and hope for some respect. 
congratulations and from my side you will get all the respect that you
need and deserve!

I
> have decided to focus on the less frequent topics, and I hope you will
> find something new, even if you consider yourself "advanced user",
> interesting and - enjoyable reading !
> 
> What do you think of the current articles available?

Again, after a brief look: Great!
> 
> link:
> http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/index.html
> 
> 
> Note, that some articles (non-my) are still in alpha-stage of development.
> LfL is indended to be offline - that is, it will be included in
> openSUSE 10.3, for those systems that have non-constant or no Internet
> connection. This is very important for me to have offline
> documentation, besides the online thing.

Same for me. So my wget is currently mirroring it to my harddisk...

> For those of you, who wanna start writing his own articles/topics, I
> would be glad to help.
> 
Thanks again
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

[Sandy Drobic]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 20:05 +0200, I wrote:
> 
>> Yes... I have been reading the "TLS_README", but the next question then
>> would be how to obtain those root certificates. I wonder if I could copy
>> over those in /etc/ssl/certs, there is a 'thawteCb.pem' and a
>> 'thawteCp.pem'. I'll try.
> 
> Yes, that seems to work:
> 
> Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: setting up TLS connection to 
> mx2.suse.de
> Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: Verified: 
> subject_CN=mx2.suse.de, issuer=Thawte Premium Server CA
> Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: TLS connection established to 
> mx2.suse.de: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)

Congratulation again. (^-^)


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Re: [opensuse] Word for all of us... [OT]

[M Harris]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 11:13, Russell Jones wrote:
> There are far more important criteria for choosing a distribution than
> how nicey-nicey people are.
This is very true ...

... and very wrong.

At this point in time the openSUSE distro is "better" for several 
technical 
reasons than Ubuntu (I have objectively compared both and the 
state-of-the-art definitely favors openSUSE at this point in time) however, 
the Ubuntu "community" is bending over backwards to make "people" feel warm 
and fuzzy all over to get them to consider switching over (yes to FOSS) from 
M$ to Linux.  "People" feel good about Ubuntu... is it the best distro? NO. 
Is it the number (1) ONE distro... Yes.  (you do the math)  

Fred's point is very helpful, if you can get past your arrogance long 
enough 
to get your head (and heart) around it.





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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[James Knott]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:01, eshsf wrote:
  

...



You may try to slow down the drive.
I got one that was about to fail, but decreasing the speed, using
Maxtor utilities, from 66 to 33 helped and it still runs.
  

Probably, the decreasing speed problem is because the HDD controller
changed a bad sector into a spare sector. and the spare sector
possibility don't optimize to seek, I guess.



What would be the relationship between bus transfer rate and seek time? 
None that I can think of.


  

Maybe he's talking about how fast the disks spin.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Receiving 'Another kind of firewall is active on your system.' message from yast

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2007-04-18 11:07, Jeff Lanzarotta wrote:
> OK, I did an:
> 'iptables --flush INPUT'
> 'iptables --flush FORWARD'
> 'iptables --flush OUTPUT'
>
> It removed the firewall related errors.
>
> Thanks for the tip.
That begs the question, what created those iptables entries in the first
place? You may be able to answer that by looking at the various
logfiles, the syslog config file (which by default in SuSELinux is
syslog-ng), and perhaps by examining the boot scripts (use grep, for
example, to check for the text BANDWIDTH_OUT, etc, case sensitive).

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Re: [opensuse] Caching updates locally/Local update server

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2007-04-13 at 13:14 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

> I have seen them in /var/lib/YaST2/you/mnt
> 
> But, you must be sure that you have not checked the button in YAST that
> causes them to be deleted after they are installed. 

No matter what I do, they are always deleted. That click box is ignored :-/

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Re: [opensuse] One partition is not working !!!!

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Thursday 2007-04-19 at 00:37 +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> I tried to mount this partition on /mnt but got following info:
> 
> # mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd2,
>missing codepage or other error
>In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>dmesg | tail  or so

What filesystem was it? Have you fsck-ed it?

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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 20:05 +0200, I wrote:

> Yes... I have been reading the "TLS_README", but the next question then
> would be how to obtain those root certificates. I wonder if I could copy
> over those in /etc/ssl/certs, there is a 'thawteCb.pem' and a
> 'thawteCp.pem'. I'll try.

Yes, that seems to work:

Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: setting up TLS connection to 
mx2.suse.de
Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: Verified: subject_CN=mx2.suse.de, 
issuer=Thawte Premium Server CA
Apr 18 20:05:16 nimrodel postfix/smtp[28214]: TLS connection established to 
mx2.suse.de: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)



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[opensuse] Great News ! Lessons for Lizards book available for online browse!

[Alexey Eremenko]

hi all !

Excellent new thing happened: Lessons for Lizards (LfL) is now
publicly available for online web browsing !

LfL is a new community-based documentation book, that covers many
topic, including the sexy topics, such as "VirtualBox" virtualization
and "Looking Glass 3D" - 3D desktop, both of whom are alternatives to
the more widely known Xen virtualization and Compiz 3D desktop !

I wrote most of the topics in the book, and hope for some respect. I
have decided to focus on the less frequent topics, and I hope you will
find something new, even if you consider yourself "advanced user",
interesting and - enjoyable reading !

What do you think of the current articles available?

link:
http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/index.html


Note, that some articles (non-my) are still in alpha-stage of development.
LfL is indended to be offline - that is, it will be included in
openSUSE 10.3, for those systems that have non-constant or no Internet
connection. This is very important for me to have offline
documentation, besides the online thing.
For those of you, who wanna start writing his own articles/topics, I
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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 16:17 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

> This is just an informational warning, not a functional.

Ah, ok.


> > I guess I would have to import their certificate somehow.
> 
> What you have to import is their root ca certificate, it belongs into
> smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/smtp_cacerts
> smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs
> 
> (choose one of these)
> 
> Because the root ca is not known to Postfix at the moment, Postfix can not
> verify, that the certificate which mx1.suse.de presents to your server,
> has indeed been signed by Thawte.

Yes... I have been reading the "TLS_README", but the next question then 
would be how to obtain those root certificates. I wonder if I could copy 
over those in /etc/ssl/certs, there is a 'thawteCb.pem' and a 
'thawteCp.pem'. I'll try.


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[opensuse] One partition is not working !!!!

[Constant Brouerius van Nidek]

One of my harddisc's of a total of 4 Gb is not working properly.
After an unexpected shutdown (electricity went down) I got the error in 
forming me that my hdd2 did not work. After removing this hd from the fstab I 
could startup as usual. On the first half of this disc (2 Gb) I have 
my /home.
No problems after that but I want to retrieve the data on the second part.

I tried to mount this partition on /mnt but got following info:

# mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd2,
   missing codepage or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

 Tried the proposed dsmeg | tail and got following info about the drive:

EXT3-fs: hdd2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features 
(8000800).

I really want to access this partition but do not want to destruct anything in 
this hdd2 when I force my way in.
What is the next step?

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Re: [opensuse] can i assign shortcut keys to different apps?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-18-07 13:31]:
> I was wondering if it's possible to assign shortcut keys to icons or 
> applications under KDE. I use this feature a lot under Windows (e.g. 
> Ctrl+Alt+Shift+C -> Calculator) to make work a bit easier and until
> now I didn't this option under KDE. So thanks in advance for any help.

For activating particular programs, look at kmenuedit, for controlling
windows, etc, look at Personal Settings -> Regional & Accessibility ->
Keyboard Shortcuts.

Note: the 'hotkey' functions available in kmenuedit are also available
in the Personal Settings utility.

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[opensuse] Internet access through Firefox

[Bikram Chatterjee]

Hi,

It might be a very trivial problem but as I am quite new to Linux, I
can figure it out myself.

I have SuSE 10.1 x86_64. I can access internet through Konquror only.
None of the other browsers are working. I have Installed Firefox (the
latest version available) but the result is all the same.

Except Konqurer all the other browsers are having timeout in HTTP request.

I would appreciate your guidence very much. Please throw some light to it.

Thanks in advance,

Bikram Chatterjee
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[opensuse] can i assign shortcut keys to different apps?

[Andrew]

Hi, 

I was wondering if it's possible to assign shortcut keys to icons or 
applications under KDE. I use this feature a lot under Windows (e.g. 
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+C -> Calculator) to make work a bit easier and until now I 
didn't this option under KDE. So thanks in advance for any help.

Andrew
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Re: [opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-18-07 13:01]:
> Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> >Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo.
> 
> these applications have very convenient native installers (from the 
> own site), so no real need to go through openSUSE for them

BETTER to go to openSUSE buildservice for the updates, then we will
not have nearly as many questions about particular changes suseusers
have applied that are not available or "don't work" the same.  Brings
to mind the very long threads about the "Reply-to-List" function no
being available on thunderburd mailer.

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Re: [opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

[Marcus Meissner]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 06:59:27PM +0200, jdd wrote:
> Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> 
> >Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo.
> 
> these applications have very convenient native installers (from the 
> own site), so no real need to go through openSUSE for them

Thunderbird is 1.5.0.10 in our update repositories.
Firefox will be updated to 2.0.0.4 once this version arrives
(2.0.0.3 just had too minimal changes to warrant an update).

And for OOo we do not upgrade major versions for 1 release.

All of the above have openSUSE buildservice repos however,
but you can just stay with the supported packages if 
you do not really need the newest ones.

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Re: [opensuse] Receiving 'Another kind of firewall is active on your system.' message from yast

[Jeff Lanzarotta]

OK, I did an:
'iptables --flush INPUT'
'iptables --flush FORWARD'
'iptables --flush OUTPUT'

It removed the firewall related errors.

Thanks for the tip.

--- Jeff Lanzarotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The output of 'iptables -L -n' is:
> 
> 8<
> 
> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
> LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG
> flags
> 0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_IN:'
> 
> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
> LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG
> flags
> 0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_OUT:'
> LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG
> flags
> 0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_IN:'
> 
> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
> LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG
> flags
> 0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_OUT:'
> 
> 8<
> 
> I have noticed a files in the /var/log directory named bandwidth and
> firewall. So I am assuming something is running, I just do not know
> what...
> 
> 
> --- Darryl Gregorash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 2007-04-17 14:05, Jeff Lanzarotta wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am receiving,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Another Firewall Active
> > > Another kind of firewall is active in your system.
> > > If you continue, SuSEfirewall2 may produce undefined errors.
> > > It would be better to remove the other firewall before
> > > configuring SuSEfirewall2.
> > > --
> > >
> > > from yast when I attempt to configure SuSEfirewall2.
> > >
> > > I have looked all over the system and I can not find what it is
> > talking
> > > about. Could someone please shed some light on this...
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > What is the output of
> > 
> > iptables --L -n
> > 
> > 
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Re: [opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

[jdd]

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:


Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo.


these applications have very convenient native installers (from the 
own site), so no real need to go through openSUSE for them


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[jdd]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

the Packman repository (a primary repository for SuSE users to find 
media-related packages, of course).


we have to quote here, because it can't be done on the wiki for legal 
reasons, than at least "packman" and "guru" repositories are perfectly 
trustable ones and even mandatory ones for most users.


I knox than on the beginning, users don't like to add non official 
repos, here they are wrong :-))


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Re: [opensuse] RE: Repairing File Damage or corruption

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:20, Russell Jones wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > The root file system
> > cannot be unmounted,
>
> Although this is true, IIRC you can say:
>
> init S
> mount / -oro,remount
> fsck -f /
> mount / -orw,remount
> init 2
>
> [checks, via ssh]... Yeah, seems to work fine, under Debian at least.

Yes, that should work on pretty much any Linux system, including SuSE.


> > ...


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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:01, eshsf wrote:
> ...
>
> > You may try to slow down the drive.
> > I got one that was about to fail, but decreasing the speed, using
> > Maxtor utilities, from 66 to 33 helped and it still runs.
>
> Probably, the decreasing speed problem is because the HDD controller
> changed a bad sector into a spare sector. and the spare sector
> possibility don't optimize to seek, I guess.

What would be the relationship between bus transfer rate and seek time? 
None that I can think of.


> ...
>
> Thanks,
> eshsf


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Re: [opensuse] RE: Repairing File Damage or corruption

[Russell Jones]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
The root file system 
cannot be unmounted, 


Although this is true, IIRC you can say:

init S
mount / -oro,remount
fsck -f /
mount / -orw,remount
init 2

[checks, via ssh]... Yeah, seems to work fine, under Debian at least.


so to manually check or repair it you must be 
running from another root file system, typically a rescue disc of some 
sort (many generic ones are available and the SuSE installation disks 
serve this purpose, too).


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Re: [opensuse] Word for all of us... [OT]

[Russell Jones]

Fred A. Miller wrote:

"Users can solve that problem, though," Diedrich says, with the help of
the Internet, since the Linux community is happy to provide fellow users
with help. That's why Diedrich recommends going online before selecting
a Linux distribution and checking out the corresponding community. Are
the people who use a given distribution ready to help, or more arrogant
techno-geeks?

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/56912.html
  
This is very unhelpful. It is misleading to suggest that Linux support 
fora are unlimited sources of help and assistance. There are (or should 
be if provision of support is to be sustainable) constraints on what is 
expected to be asked and what kind of answers can be given. If a user 
isn't willing to get their hands dirty and make some effort to resolve 
problems they have for themselves, they should either pay for support 
(via Novell/SuSE, or perhaps a local firm of the sort M Harris seems to 
run) or not be surprised or upset when it doesn't work. This is true of 
all computer systems, in fact. Judging distributions (or operating 
systems) by how "civil" or "friendly" the mailing lists and fora are is 
a silly idea, and will only benefit people who "make nice" in order to 
shift products.


From http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#courtesy
Which is where, IMO, pretty much all quests for (free) technical help by 
newbies should start.


"Be courteous.  ...

To be honest, this isn't as important as (and cannot substitute for) 
being grammatical, clear, precise and descriptive, avoiding proprietary 
formats etc.; /hackers in general would rather get somewhat brusque but 
technically sharp bug reports than polite vagueness/. (If this puzzles 
you, remember that we value a question by what it teaches us.)"



And http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#keepcool

"Dealing with rudeness

Much of what looks like rudeness in hacker circles is not intended to 
give offence. Rather, it's the product of the direct, 
cut-through-the-bullshit communications style that is natural to people 
who are more concerned about solving problems than making others feel 
warm and fuzzy.


When you perceive rudeness, try to react calmly. If someone is really 
acting out, it is very likely a senior person on the list or newsgroup 
or forum will call him or her on it. If that /doesn't/ happen and you 
lose your temper, it is likely that the person you lose it at was 
behaving within the hacker community's norms and /you/ will be 
considered at fault. This will hurt your chances of getting the 
information or help you want.


On the other hand, you will occasionally run across rudeness and 
posturing that is quite gratuitous. The flip-side of the above is that 
it is acceptable form to slam real offenders quite hard, dissecting 
their misbehaviour with a sharp verbal scalpel. Be very, very sure of 
your ground before you try this, however. The line between correcting an 
incivility and starting a pointless flame war is thin enough that 
hackers themselves not infrequently blunder across it; if you are a 
newbie or an outsider, your chances of avoiding such a blunder are low. 
If you're after information rather than entertainment, it's better to 
keep your fingers off the keyboard than to risk this. "


There are far more important criteria for choosing a distribution than 
how nicey-nicey people are.


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Re: [opensuse] Firewire and linux?

[Mike Adolf]

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Mike Adolf wrote:
  

You would be better off with a external scsi enclosure
if you want my opinion.  



 
  

How might I do this?  I can get a PCI to SCSI card, but can't find a
simple SATA to SCSI enclosure.



Presumably you mean SCSI to SATA.  SCSI interface, SATA drives?

Why does it have to be that way? SCSI enclosures are a dime a dozen
and by the time you track down a hybrid you will not save any money.
Just go SCSI.
The first google hit I found was http://www.bixnet.com/exscsi3hardr.html

Or you can DIY
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/11/convert_a_scsi_enclosure_into.html
(Sata allows for fairly long cables).



  
My Dell has only SATA internal connectors(5). I don't have a scsi HD, 
only an extra SATA internal that I can't mount internally.
I will probably end up running a SATA data cable through my computer 
case to provide an external SATA connection.  That way I won't use my 
last PCI slot for an external SATA connection, as in the DYI article. I 
have also located a relatively inexpensive SATA enclosure that has SATA 
output.  I should be able to use this and not need to modify a scsi 
enclosure.


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Re: [opensuse] Micro pauses, or CPU spikes?

[eshsf]

Hello,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:27:36 -0500
"Rajko M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 04:15, Clayton wrote:
> ...
> > I'm assuming the drive is unrecoverable (ie it's not worth risking my
> > data to try and run the Maxtor tools on it and "repair" the drive)...
> > so it's up for replacement in the next week or so.
> >
> 
> You may try to slow down the drive. 
> I got one that was about to fail, but decreasing the speed, using Maxtor 
> utilities, from 66 to 33 helped and it still runs. 

Probably, the decreasing speed problem is because the HDD controller
changed a bad sector into a spare sector. and the spare sector possibility
don't optimize to seek, I guess.

AFAIK, A modern HDD has a number of spare sectors. and when happened a bad
sector, that can replace a bad sector into a spare sector by using the hard
drive tools, etc.
*But*, there is a limitation in the number of spare sectors (and depend on HDD).

For example, the following results by a smartctl on my HDD.

# smartctl -A /dev/hda | egrep -e 'ATTRIBUTE_NAME|Reallocated_Sector_Ct'
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005Pre-fail  Always   
-   2

The HDD used two spare sectors because the HDD had two bad sectors.
And if the raw_value exceed the threshold, then it is necessary to change it
with a new HDD, I think.

So, there is a one way to defend the data from the bad sector.
It is a RAID (Excluding RAID0). I would recommend the Linux Software RAID.


In addition, you would want to read the following documents. 
  http://help.com/wiki/Bad_sector
  http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/BadBlockHowTo.txt


Thanks,
eshsf
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Re: [opensuse] *help* Built 2.6.20 kernel - boots fine, no keyboard, no mouse, no network

[david rankin]

From: "Thomas Hertweck"


david rankin wrote:

This is really comical - sort of. I am running opensuse 10.


Is that 10.0?



Yes


I have been
through heck compiling a new kernel. I got the 2.6.20 kernel and did the
following

Get the latest and greatest kernel, unpack it into /usr/src/linux-2.6.20,
create a symlink linux->linux-2.6.20


That should not be necessary.



Sorry, everything I have read, said do it, so I just did it


cd linux
zcat /proc/config.gz config
make oldconfig
make
make modules_install
make install.
edit grub to boot from new and old kernels.


Did "make install" create an initrd etc.?



Yes, everything did exactly what it was supposed to do!  I even took the 
time to create links to make sure I could boot to the old kernel, which 
worked.


providence:/home/david # ll /boot
total 17184
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 888 2007-04-17 22:21 .
drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 544 2007-04-18 05:03 ..
-rw---   1 root root 512 2006-08-12 17:09 backup_mbr
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   1 2006-08-12 16:56 boot -> .
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   63196 2007-03-02 10:42 config-2.6.13-15.15-smp
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 544 2007-04-17 22:22 grub
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  19 2007-04-17 22:21 initrd -> 
initrd-2.6.20.7-smp

-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1848561 2007-04-13 11:40 initrd-2.6.13-15.15-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1752217 2007-04-16 20:37 initrd-2.6.20.6-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1800590 2007-04-17 22:21 initrd-2.6.20.7-smp
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  23 2007-04-16 19:59 initrdold -> 
initrd-2.6.13-15.15-smp

-rw-r--r--   1 root root   90292 2005-09-09 11:36 memtest.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  128000 2006-08-12 17:09 message
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   73773 2007-03-02 10:42 
symvers-2.6.13-15.15-i386-smp.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  779055 2007-03-02 10:33 
System.map-2.6.13-15.15-smp

-rw-r--r--   1 root root  856751 2007-04-15 00:44 System.map-2.6.20.6-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  856751 2007-04-15 00:44 
System.map-2.6.20.6-smp.old

-rw-r--r--   1 root root  860395 2007-04-17 22:01 System.map-2.6.20.7-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1991337 2007-03-02 10:42 
vmlinux-2.6.13-15.15-smp.gz
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  20 2007-04-17 22:20 vmlinuz -> 
vmlinuz-2.6.20.7-smp

-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1684799 2007-03-02 10:33 vmlinuz-2.6.13-15.15-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1590304 2007-04-15 00:44 vmlinuz-2.6.20.6-smp
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1590304 2007-04-15 00:44 vmlinuz-2.6.20.6-smp.old
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1562784 2007-04-17 22:01 vmlinuz-2.6.20.7-smp
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  24 2007-04-16 19:59 vmlinuzold -> 
vmlinuz-2.6.13-15.15-smp

providence:/home/david #

The machine boots just fine on 2.6.20.6 and 2.6.20.7, the only problems are 
(1) keyboard; (2) mouse; and (3) network. Everything else works fine 
(Apache, MySQL, smb, nmb, sata, etc...)



[...]
Anybody want to take a stab at where I screwed up??


Well, did you read Documentation/Changes in the kernel source tree? Does
your system meet the "Current Minimal Requirements"? If it's indeed a
10.0 system, then I have some doubts...



Yes, I read the Documentation/Changes in the kernel source. Specifically the 
"Current Minimal Requirements"


o  Gnu C  3.2 # gcc --version
o  Gnu make   3.79.1  # make --version
o  binutils   2.12# ld -v
o  util-linux 2.10o   # fdformat --version
o  module-init-tools  0.9.10  # depmod -V
o  e2fsprogs  1.29# tune2fs
o  jfsutils   1.1.3   # fsck.jfs -V
o  reiserfsprogs  3.6.3   # reiserfsck -V 2>&1|grep 
reiserfsprogs

o  xfsprogs   2.6.0   # xfs_db -V
o  pcmciautils004 # pccardctl -V
o  quota-tools3.09# quota -V
o  PPP2.4.0   # pppd --version
o  isdn4k-utils   3.1pre1 # isdnctrl 2>&1|grep 
version

o  nfs-utils  1.0.5   # showmount --version
o  procps 3.2.0   # ps --version
o  oprofile   0.9 # oprofiled --version
o  udev   081 # udevinfo -V

Out of the entire list, the only requirement I did not update was udev 
because the documentation said it was not a good idea. If you think this is 
the problem, then I'm game to update it.




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[opensuse] Updating software via update sources?

[Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)]

I am interested in updating at least 2 items of software that have not
been updated significantly by the ftp.skynet.be update source since I
installed.

Software I would like to update is Thunderbird, Firefox, and OOo. I
currently have version 2.0.4 of OOo and version 1.5.0.10 of Thunderbird.
My Firefox version is sitting at 2.0.0.2. The reason I would like to
update is to take advantage of additional features ie Base in OOo as
well as the additional security and functionality of the updated Firefox
and TB versions.,

To maintain my rpm db and ease of use of the software management tools
of Yast, I thought that I might just need to add additional update
source path/s. When the opensuseupdater checks for updates, it will
identify that there are new files available and let me download and
install them via Yast.

Are there update sources specifically for the software I want to update
ie in RPM format or is there a more general all inclusive OpenSUSE RPM
update source?

Or should I just bite te bullet and learn to install tar.gz files and
resolve their dependancies.

I really would prefer just adding update sources and using
opensuseupdater/Yast though.

TIA
Hylton
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Re: [opensuse] DMA & Sound Setting do not "stick"

[Sunny]

On 4/18/07, Jess Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Hi Sonny:

 I guess it is good not to be alone. Are you having trouble with any other
settings besides the DMA becoming disabled?

 Jess



Not so far. And actually this is not the setting itself. I would guess
that YaST just uses hdparm behind the scenes - so when you set it, it
executes the command and sets it, but then when you open YaST again,
it reads the real drive status and displays that DMA is not enabled. I
may be wrong, of course.

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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 08:01, James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> >> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.
> >
> > LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.
>
> That's a lame excuse.  ;-)

Names are hard!

RRS
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[James Knott]

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
  

What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.



LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.

  


That's a lame excuse.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 01:55, zoran wrote:
> What is lame? I have a same problem, more input needed, please.

LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder.

Except that it is, now. The name describes it's original status as a 
executive program that didn't actually perform the MP3 encoding it does 
now.

Man lame, of course. On my 10.0 installation it comes from package 
lame-3.96.1-2. On my 10.2 system, it's lame-3.97-1. You can find it in 
the Packman repository (a primary repository for SuSE users to find 
media-related packages, of course).


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[opensuse] Usb Problems

[ka1ifq]

Hello All:

I am running Suse 10.2-x86-64 on a Dell C521.

Today I can no longer print to my HP 932C, I have used it before. I got 
frustrated and deleted the printer to do a reinstall, when I went into YAST 
it said " No USB devices found. It seems thet you USB bus is not properly 
configured." I know the usb is working because the kb and mouse are usb and 
working, I am not sure if this was due to an update.

Thanks, Mike
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Re: [opensuse] FTP access via SSH tunnel - OT

[Jerome R. Westrick]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 03:29, M Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:52, Registration Account wrote:
> > I am interested in your comment about Network Address Translation not
> > being happy with FTP.
>
>   hi Scott-- its a linux NAT thing.  It depends on your distro... and how
> much you know about NAT (configuration)...  but basically there are some
> services that have not worked well (historically) with masquerading (the
> linux software implementation of NAT).  Special modules were always
> required for instance to fix irc and ftp in order to work through ip_masq. 
> Hardware NAT may not have this problem.  The thing is that some
> firewalls/routers are really older (very much older) linux systems using
> ip_masq and ip_chains, and may not be setup properly with the fix modules
> for ftp and irc.  So, its something to look into.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> M Harris <><
Tell your users to use passive mode...
This uses the current (working) connection to transfer the data.

Jerry
P.S.  I have my clients install winscp3.  It's free and simple to use,
therefore they manage to use scp
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 under QEMU on WinXP

[Alexey Eremenko]

Qemu is optimized for old OSes, such as Win9x.

To run modern OSes, try to get VirtualBox.

link:
www.virtualbox.org

link2: VirtualBox on openSUSE guide:
http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/virtualbox.html

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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

[Sandy Drobic]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 11:03 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
> 
>> You have a problem with the tlsmgr. Please check that you indeed have an
>> entry for tlsmgr:
> 
>> /etc/postfix/master.cf:
>> tlsmgrunix  -   -   n   1000?   1   tlsmgr
> 
> Yep! It works now. At least, it doesn't complain of that, now I get new 
> complaints:
> 
> Apr 18 14:09:21 nimrodel postfix/smtp[23556]: certificate verification 
> failed for mx1.suse.de: num=19:self signed certificate in certificate 
> chain
> 
> This is a never ending tale! :-)

This is just an informational warning, not a functional.

> I guess I would have to import their certificate somehow.

What you have to import is their root ca certificate, it belongs into
smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/smtp_cacerts
smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs

(choose one of these)

Because the root ca is not known to Postfix at the moment, Postfix can not
verify, that the certificate which mx1.suse.de presents to your server,
has indeed been signed by Thawte.

This is what you see, when you have stored the Thawte root ca:

Apr 18 11:02:31 katgar postfix/smtp[32554]: setting up TLS connection to
mx1.suse.de
Apr 18 11:02:31 katgar postfix/smtp[32554]: Verified:
subject_CN=mx1.suse.de, issuer=Thawte Premium Server CA
Apr 18 11:02:31 katgar postfix/smtp[32554]: TLS connection established to
mx1.suse.de: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)

Again. This is informational only, it does not say that the TLS connection
is invalid.

> 
>> Also run:
>> postfix upgrade-configuration
>> postfix set-permissions
>> postfix check
> 
>> This applies escpecially if you have upgraded your system from earlier
>> versions of Suse.
> 
> Ah... ok. First I stop postfix and fetchmail... (oops, I stopped 
> fetchmail while it was fetching)... make a backup... run that...
> 
>   nimrodel:/etc/postfix # postfix upgrade-configuration
>   Editing /etc/postfix/master.cf, adding missing entry for discard service

No one is perfect, and apparently the package manager that provided the
suse rpm isn't either. (^-^)



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[opensuse] Re: THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

[Joachim Schrod]

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> > How many fixed the problem and never published the fix?
> Not many I bet, at least not for significant bugs.  Perhaps trivial one
> liners.
Trivial one liner can be difference between working and not working code, so 
simplicity to solve problem doesn't mean that it should not be reported.


The "trivial one liner" is just a *rare* outlier that it barely merits
consideration.


> > They use free OS, but don't give back anything, keeping their knowledge
> > for another opportunity to cash on it.
> Or, alternatively, have no intent to cash in on it at all, just want to get
> their job done.
Agree. That is the same case as those that fixed, but "have no time, will, 
interest, knowledge or even permission to dicuss further".


Which is just dumb since if you fix without sending upstream you will
have to fix again, and again, and again  The concept that not
submitting a fix saves time is crazy;  if you really want to save time
then use packages,  no way does patching and compiling your own code
constitute efficient use of time.


If you need to fix a bug that the developers don't care about or 
mark as WONTFIX (Ulrich Drepper and glibc, anyone?), you often 
don't have the choice.


And believe me, sometimes it's *less* effort to fix it again and 
again than to cope with the idiosynchrasies of upstream developers. 
I'm doing free software development since 1981, when we received 
our first TeX tape from Stanford, and have experienced that problem 
many times in those 25 years.


In fact, maintaining such patches to Unix source tree was the 
original raison-d'etre for CVS. That's why cvs import doesn't 
create revisions on the trunk. (I was involved in the 1989 CVS 
sh-to-C rewrite effort of Brian Berliner, going from CVS 1.2 to 
1.3, so this statement is from personal experience.)


If you think otherwise, try to get a patch into OpenCA, or search 
for WONTFIX in the bugzilla entries of glibc.


Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] DMA & Sound Setting do not "stick"

[Sunny]

On 4/18/07, Jess Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi:

I have a system running OpenSuSE 10.2 that has some odd behavior. I have
two identical LG HL-DT-ST - DVDRRW GSA-4166B DVD burners.

When I run k3b I get a message saying "DMA disabled on device HL-DT-ST -
DVDRRW GSA-4166B." It suggests the problem can be fixed by running
"hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda" as root.

I have done that. I have also run YAST and actually set the two channels
explicitly for DMA/33. In either case, the settings do not "stick" even
when done via YAST.

When I run k3b and make multiple copies of a DVD, the first copy starts
at 16-X but trails off to about 2X before it is done and does the second
copy at about 1X. If I check in YAST or start and restart k3b, I get the
"DMA disabled" message again.



I have reported similar problem awhile back. It happens to even if
only reading from the devices. The hdparam setting works for a while,
but if the disk has some problems, the DMA is disabled. No one
responded before, so I'm wondering if this is opensuse problem, or
kernel problem.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD ripping software for suse 10.2

[Sunny]

On 4/18/07, Tommy Lim KW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Any free and good DVD ripping software for Suse 10.2?  Recommend
please...

Regards,
Tommy



dvd::rip (DvdRip)
xdvdshrink


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Re: [opensuse] Receiving 'Another kind of firewall is active on your system.' message from yast

[Jeff Lanzarotta]

The output of 'iptables -L -n' is:

8<

Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG flags
0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_IN:'

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG flags
0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_OUT:'
LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG flags
0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_IN:'

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
LOG0--  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0   LOG flags
0 level 7 prefix `BANDWIDTH_OUT:'

8<

I have noticed a files in the /var/log directory named bandwidth and
firewall. So I am assuming something is running, I just do not know
what...


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> > Hello,
> >
> > I am receiving,
> >
> > --
> > Another Firewall Active
> > Another kind of firewall is active in your system.
> > If you continue, SuSEfirewall2 may produce undefined errors.
> > It would be better to remove the other firewall before
> > configuring SuSEfirewall2.
> > --
> >
> > from yast when I attempt to configure SuSEfirewall2.
> >
> > I have looked all over the system and I can not find what it is
> talking
> > about. Could someone please shed some light on this...
> >
> >
> >   
> What is the output of
> 
> iptables --L -n
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to convert wav to mp3

[Kevin Donnelly]

On Wednesday 18 April 2007 09:50, michael norman wrote:
> I use audiokonverter, a KDE app.

Soundconverter is also good, with a nice GUI - it's available on Packman.

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Re: [opensuse] Raw Printer server

[Johannes Meixner]

Hello,

On Apr 18 14:05 Hans van der Merwe wrote (shortened):
> Must add, it one of those all in one printers, copy, scan fax - does
> this complicate things?

For plain printing it should not matter - normally - wasn't the
manufacturer Lexmark?
;-)

Check the "lsusb -v" output if the device shows an inteface
class "Printer", then it should be recognized as a printer.


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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 09:35 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

> Cyrus is a special case a heavy duty black box within the box ...
> really only of use if you have a lot of users and a powerful machine.
> 
> UW and courier-IMAP use the same mail structures as Postfix (or EXIM)
> and integrate well with tools such as procmail

I'll try to remember this. I do have UW pop/imap installed locally, it's 
very simple: no configuration except the key.

> Accept the requirement for seperate certificates for transmission and
> reading of mail. However, not sure what the implications are for server
> to server communication for former.

It wasn't necessary for the client side of postfix, it's working now 
without one, as I thought. Sandy D. nailed that one for me :-)

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[opensuse] DMA & Sound Setting do not "stick"

[Jess Jackson]

Hi:

I have a system running OpenSuSE 10.2 that has some odd behavior. I have
two identical LG HL-DT-ST - DVDRRW GSA-4166B DVD burners.

When I run k3b I get a message saying "DMA disabled on device HL-DT-ST -
DVDRRW GSA-4166B." It suggests the problem can be fixed by running
"hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda" as root.

I have done that. I have also run YAST and actually set the two channels
explicitly for DMA/33. In either case, the settings do not "stick" even
when done via YAST.

When I run k3b and make multiple copies of a DVD, the first copy starts
at 16-X but trails off to about 2X before it is done and does the second
copy at about 1X. If I check in YAST or start and restart k3b, I get the
"DMA disabled" message again.

Some more "interesting" actions. I have a YMF724-Based PCI Audio Adapter
installed. I can set the sound card up through YAST and the card works
great. But if I reboot, the sound is gone again. I can get sound back
only by resetting it in YAST.

One other possible "factor." This PC, a Dell 2.8 MHz unit, was shipped
with Windows XP. The Windows system crashed big time twice with the
Windows C: drive trashed. I decided to wipe it clean and install
OpenSuSE 10.2. I have had no problems whatsoever with the hard drive
since installing OpenSuSE.

I am not a major hardware expert, but I am wondering if the hard drive
controller may be faulty. But since I have had no problems with booting
SuSE and getting it up (except the sound & DMA issues above), I just do
not know.

So, I am stuck.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jess
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Re: [opensuse] Can't make postfix to atutenficate to my ISP.

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The Wednesday 2007-04-18 at 11:03 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

> You have a problem with the tlsmgr. Please check that you indeed have an
> entry for tlsmgr:
> 
> /etc/postfix/master.cf:
> tlsmgrunix  -   -   n   1000?   1   tlsmgr

Yep! It works now. At least, it doesn't complain of that, now I get new 
complaints:

Apr 18 14:09:21 nimrodel postfix/smtp[23556]: certificate verification 
failed for mx1.suse.de: num=19:self signed certificate in certificate 
chain

This is a never ending tale! :-)

I guess I would have to import their certificate somehow.


> Also run:
> postfix upgrade-configuration
> postfix set-permissions
> postfix check
> 
> This applies escpecially if you have upgraded your system from earlier
> versions of Suse.

Ah... ok. First I stop postfix and fetchmail... (oops, I stopped 
fetchmail while it was fetching)... make a backup... run that...

  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # postfix upgrade-configuration
  Editing /etc/postfix/master.cf, adding missing entry for discard service

  Note: the following files or directories still exist but are no
  longer part of Postfix:

   /etc/postfix/pcre_table /etc/postfix/regexp_table
  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # postfix set-permissions
  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # postfix check
  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # 

Done!

Sort by date, find what was modified...

  prng_exch  - what's this? A binary, not new, but new to me.
  master.cf


tls_random_exchange_name (default: ${config_directory}/prng_exch)


Name of the pseudo random number generator (PRNG) state file that is 
maintained by tlsmgr(8). The file is created when it does not exist, 
and its length is fixed at 1024 bytes.


Since this file is modified by Postfix, it should probably be kept in 
the / var file system, instead of under $config_directory. The 
location should not be inside the chroot jail.


This feature is available in Postfix 2.2 and later.

Curious! But it is kept in /etc/postfix.



  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # diff master.cf master.cf.old 
  150d149
  < discard unix  -   -   n   -   -   discard
  nimrodel:/etc/postfix # 


A new entry! I wonder why Yast didn't do this while updating my system 
two months ago.

Send a test email... worked fine. Good! :-)



> You might also want to check if AppArmor is interfering.

Ah, yes, I tend to forget that one [...] no, nothing there.


> > I understand that using tsl for server is more complicated, defining keys, 
> > etc. But as a client, I thought it was easier. I must be missing 
> > something.
> > 
> > Ok... my config is thus (postconf | grep smtp_tls):
> 
> No certs are neccessary for Postfix to use TLS as a client.

I thought so.

> >smtp_use_tls (default: no)   
> > 
> > ...
> > This feature is available in Postfix 2.2 and later. With 
> >  Postfix 2.3 and later use smtp_tls_security_level instead.
> > 
> 
> Yes, the setting is deprecated, for Postfix 2.3 upwards the parameter
> below should be used.
> 
> >   smtp_tls_security_level (default: empty)

I set it to "may", ie, oportunistic. It appears my provider doesn't allow 
tls, anyway.

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Re: [opensuse] Another problem authenticating with postfix.

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The Tuesday 2007-04-17 at 23:09 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

> On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > I normally use my own postfix (on a dynamic IP) to send everywhere.
> > Sometimes it is rejected, and then I send via a relay. And then I have new
> > problems: none of my mail account provider accept emails if the "from"
> > address in the email is not one of theirs!
> 
> Try a gmail account.  
> I'm not sure they care about the "from".

Ah! Could be a way, I already have one. Yep.


> But really, Telephonica should accept authentication.  If you can
> get that working then they have no reason to complain about the 
> from.

I have authentication working already, thanks to Sandy D. help, but it 
only works if the "from" is from theirs. I wonder what they do when people 
hire domains from them... ah, of course, only the listed domains will 
work, I guess.



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Re: [opensuse] Raw Printer server

[Hans van der Merwe]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:18 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Apr 18 09:54 Hans van der Merwe wrote (shortened):
> > ... still no spooling to printer - dont I need some USB driver to
> > spool RAW data to the printer?
> 
> You need the appropriate USB kernel modules loaded
> (happens usually automatically) so that the low-level system
> can send data via USB.
> 
> And:
> The CUPS usb backend must recognize the printer.
> 
> If the CUPS usb backend doesn't recognize the printer,
> check if the USB system recognizes the printer, e.g.:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] lsusb
> Bus 003 Device 011: ID 03f0:7004 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 3320c
> 
> Execute the backend directly to get what it recognizes, e.g.:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb 
> direct usb://hp/deskjet%203320?serial=TH27T2H35B35 "hp deskjet 3320" ...
> 
> The second entry is the DeviceURI which you must use to set
> up a queue:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] lpadmin -p rawusb -E \
>-v usb://hp/deskjet%203320?serial=TH27T2H35B35
> 
> Test if it looks o.k.:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] lpstat -p rawusb -a rawusb
> printer rawusb is idle ...
> rawusb accepting requests ...
> 
> Test if spooling and sending data via this queue works
> on the local host:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo -en "\r" | lp -d rawusb
> 
> Ony a carriage return character is sent. The printer won't print
> anything here but you shoudn't get any error messages.
> 
> Check /var/log/cups/error_log if there are errors.
> 
> Only if all this looks o.k., do the Samba stuff.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Johannes Meixner


Thx, will try

Must add, it one of those all in one printers, copy, scan fax - does
this complicate things?





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[opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 under QEMU on WinXP

[Tim Hempstead]

Hi,

I have been trying to get Opensuse 10.2 running under QEMU (0.9.0) on
a WinXP Pro host.  The software sees the DVD to start with and gives
the splash screen and boot menu but once the linux kernel is booted it
just complains about not being able to see the optical and disk
devices and dumps me back into the text mode installation system.

Has anyone managed to get Opensuse 10.2 working in QEMU on WinXP and
if so how?  I am assuming that either a kernel module isn't loaded
which should be or a wrong module is loaded.  I don't see any messages
during boot saying its found disk devices during the start up
messages, (and I can't get back to see those message in detail once in
the text mode install screens).

I have tried the various different install options presented at the
boot screen, (disabling various things).

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] mailing from CLI

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 06:53 -0400, ken wrote:
> I need to email from the command line a previously created file.  (The
> finished working command will go into cron and so should be completely
> programmatic.)  Using Linux, There are a few open source apps that
> should work: mail, mailx, and nail.  Weirdness is that they all share
> the same manpage.  So maybe they all work exactly the same (???).

I have used mutt to mail things via the command line. I do this inside
makefiles. 

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My use was more complicated. But it does work.

Another way is via Tcl and the mime extension. A few lines of script and
you can send e-mail however you want. We run some analysis software that
sends e-mail logs to a selected user when each section has completed
analysis. Don't ask why.

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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 01:07 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> On 4/15/07, Greg Freemyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 4/14/07, Alexey Eremenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What will happen after "sdX" reaches from sda to sdz ? i.e. if you
> > > have over 26 hard disks in your system ?
> >
> > I tried to put a bunch of 2-channel IDE controllers in a SUSE box a
> > couple years ago.
> 
> OK, but some servers with massive SCSI arrays may have well over 26 disks...

USB disks are also called sdX. As are firewire. So, add the IDE, SCSI,
USB and firewire disks and 26 can (and will) happen shortly. Of course,
prior to this change SCSI, USB and firewire were already sdX. So it is
only the few IDE disks that have been added to the total.

I like the change. As long as the BUS id ("scsi", "usbdisk", etc)
remains so I can tell which is which in udev.

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Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> > A patch just out-there will be of little value.  It very possibly won't
> > apply to future versions or will become a bug if people do apply it.
> > Bug/patch trackers and code repositories exist for very good reason.
> Exactly so.
> But submitting patches to your Distro of choice ought to be fairly easy
> and let the distro's package manager decide if it fixes something upstream
> and submit it in a professional way. 

No, that won't work.  If you expect the distro maintainer(s) to be the
gatekeepers of all patches to included packages the system will grind to
a nearly complete halt.

> It does not seem reasonable that I, joe user, who can read a little bit
> of C should be submitting patches.

Wrong, that is the entire principle of Open Source.


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Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> > > How many fixed the problem and never published the fix?
> > Not many I bet, at least not for significant bugs.  Perhaps trivial one
> > liners.
> Trivial one liner can be difference between working and not working code, so 
> simplicity to solve problem doesn't mean that it should not be reported.

The "trivial one liner" is just a *rare* outlier that it barely merits
consideration.

> > > They use free OS, but don't give back anything, keeping their knowledge
> > > for another opportunity to cash on it.
> > Or, alternatively, have no intent to cash in on it at all, just want to get
> > their job done.
> Agree. That is the same case as those that fixed, but "have no time, will, 
> interest, knowledge or even permission to dicuss further".

Which is just dumb since if you fix without sending upstream you will
have to fix again, and again, and again  The concept that not
submitting a fix saves time is crazy;  if you really want to save time
then use packages,  no way does patching and compiling your own code
constitute efficient use of time.

> > You need only to read about the demanding standards necessary for
> > submitting patches (especially to the kernel tree) to know that you can't
> > simply hand in a patch and expect it to see the light of day unless you
> > are well versed in the mechanics and politics of that portion of the
> > community.
> I read the article about kernel patches, but I bet that a lot of bugs would 
> be 
> fixed if procedure wouldn't be so strict. The reasons for strick procedure 
> are given in the same article, but on the other side who is going to take 
> time to read article and create proper patch, for something like one liner?

You can toss out the concept of the "one liner" as it applies to almost
nothing in reality.

And I don't understand how this became about submitting patches to the
kernel?   It began as someone's diatribe against Evolution because of
what they thought they saw in their Bugzilla and my pointing out this
was bogus;  Evolution is an application, not a kernel module.
Personally, I want the standards for kernel code to be brutal - it is
the base of the pillar.  Even so, the number of contributors to the
kernel manages to be pretty high.

> > I suspect these imagined fixers-but-never-submitters were submitters
> > at some point in the past who never got so much as a thanky thanky back,
> > and decided it was not worth it.
> Some yes, for sure, but not all. 

I think that proportion is very low;  and I'm more concerned with the
"vanishing submitter" as I'll never even see the
"fixers-but-never-submitters".  The "fixers-but-never-submitters" just
don't 'get it'.

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Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org

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Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 18:54 +1000, Registration Account wrote:

> Has anyone else left Evolution

Not me. Thunderbird and kmail both suck at imap accounts, which are all
I have - even on my local machine. kmail and Thunderbird are both very
very very slow and apparently single threaded when updating imap
folders. Doing so blocks any other activity. Evolution has always done
this well, seemingly in a thread that allows user interaction and other
folder reading to continue undisturbed while imap folder changes are
tracked. In addition, kmail does not track imap folder additions
correctly. It is a known issue, which kmail developers claim is the
fault of the imap server. Perhaps. But they are the only client that
does not sort this out. Evolution is my first choice. Of course, before
that it was tkrat and before that elm. So maybe I am just odd.

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Re: [opensuse] the new openSUSE kernel and the IDE

[Steffen Winterfeldt]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Question. With "hwprobe=-modules.pata", are more than 15 partitions 
> supported?
> 
> If yes, then, Q #2:

Yes.

> When there are more than 15 partitions, will this situation be detected 
> and then automatically activate "hwprobe=-modules.pata", or do we have to 

Interesting idea.


Steffen
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[opensuse] [solved] Firefox Fonts on 10.3 Alpha3

[CyberOrg]

On 4/14/07, CyberOrg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I updated Alpha1 to Alpha3, fonts in firefox now look really terrible
(skinny and zigzags).

I have recompiled freetype2 with all the disputed features turned on.



Replying to myself.

I was missing m$truetype core fonts. Attached script gets and installs
them in right place.

Fonts look great now.

Cheers

-J


fetchmsttfonts.sh
Description: Bourne shell script