Re: [opensuse] foomatic-rip failed - more details

2007-05-08 Thread George Osvald
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 12:22, George Osvald wrote:
> Recently I upgraded my computers to Suse 10.2. Two of them were no
> problem but the third one gives me a headache.
> Since the upgrade it would not print into my HP Officejet. It still
> prints into Dymo labelwriter because I have it set up as raw printer.
> I get this error message from my CUPS
> server:  "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
> I tried all sorts of things without a success. This printer was
> printing fine with a previous version and I also have two other (with
> SuSe 10.2) computers printing into HP printers no problems.
>
> I'd appreciate any help.

Here is the CUPS error log:

Starting renderer
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] JCL:  
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] 
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] renderer PID kid4=5299
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] renderer command: 
gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs 
-sDeviceManufacturer="HEWLETT-PACKARD" -sDeviceModel="DESKJET 
930" -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842 -dDuplex=false -r300 
-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2
 -dIjsUseOutputFD -sOutputFile=- -
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] 
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Closing renderer
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] foomatic-gswrapper: 
gs '-dBATCH' '-dPARANOIDSAFER' '-dQUIET' '-dNOPAUSE' '-sDEVICE=ijs' 
'-sIjsServer=hpijs' '-sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD' 
'-sDeviceModel=DESKJET 
930' '-dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=595' '-dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=842' '-dDuplex=false' 
'-r300' 
'-sIjsParams=Quality:Quality=0,Quality:ColorMode=2,Quality:MediaType=0,Quality:PenSet=2'
 '-dIjsUseOutputFD' '-sOutputFile=/dev/fd/3' '/dev/fd/0' 
3>&1 1>&2
C [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] invalidfileaccess in file
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] Discarding unused printer-state-changed 
event...
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Operand stack:
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] --nostringval--  --nostringval--  
Fontmap.kanji
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] renderer return value: 255
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] renderer received signal: 255
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] KID3 exited with status 1
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Renderer exit stat: 1
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Process dying with "The renderer 
command line returned an unrecognized error code 255.", exit stat: 1
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] error: Illegal seek (29)
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] The renderer command line returned 
an unrecognized error code 255.
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] tail process done writing data to 
STDOUT
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] KID4 finished
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Renderer process finished
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Killing process 5298 (KID3)
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Process dying with "Error closing 
renderer", exit stat: 1
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] error: Bad file descriptor (9)
D [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] [Job 1060] Error closing renderer
E [09/May/2007:15:52:31 +1000] PID 5286 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) 
stopped with status 1!


And here is what happens when I try to execute gs from command line:
ESP Ghostscript 8.15 (2006-04-19)
Copyright (C) 2004 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA.  All rights reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details.
CRIT: invalidfileaccess in file
Operand stack:
--nostringval--  --nostringval--  Fontmap.kanji


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Re: [opensuse] foomatic-rip failed - resolved

2007-05-08 Thread George Osvald
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 12:22, George Osvald wrote:
> Recently I upgraded my computers to Suse 10.2. Two of them were no
> problem but the third one gives me a headache.
> Since the upgrade it would not print into my HP Officejet. It still
> prints into Dymo labelwriter because I have it set up as raw printer.
> I get this error message from my CUPS
> server:  "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
> I tried all sorts of things without a success. This printer was
> printing fine with a previous version and I also have two other (with
> SuSe 10.2) computers printing into HP printers no problems.
>
> I'd appreciate any help.


I deleted my current ghostscript installation and re-installed from the net 
and the printer works again. 
Strange thing is that even though it prints, CUPS still gives me the error 
message while printing a test page.

But I don't care as long as I can use it.


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Re: [opensuse] Groupwise - Open-Xchange

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Van Lone

On 5/9/07, Catherine Carminati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi all

I work at a company that has about 160 users, we are thinking of upgrading
our servers, one of them
being the mail server.
what i would like to find out is if anyone works with Groupwise 7 and if you
would recommend
the product. Almost all our users use Outlook 2000 / outlook xp / outlook
2003 and outlook 2007,
some also use outlook express.
I have also read about Open-xchange. anyone using the product?


GroupWise is a really fine corporate collaboration product. It's
scaleable (which you don't really care about, I realize) and easy to
manage. The client has gotten better and better, and there are some
quite exciting new features coming in the version due end of year
(code name Bonobo, or something like that). Runs great on SLES.
Requires edirectory (this is one of the things that is changing, I
think in the next version, or two) and management via console one,
which is a bit of a clunky java util.

If your users are used to OutLook, then you can either continue using
that with the GroupWise "connector", or (what I would suggest) move
them to the native client, as it is easier to support is familiar
enough that users will get used to it. If you try to use the
Outlook/GW connector, there are some compromises (not everything works
exactly as it does in either product on it's own) and there MAY be
some issues with stability. I have not used it ... I know that earlier
versions were  a challenge in some ways. I have also heard it has
gotten better.

The GW client (like OutLook) is *NOT* a strong email client, from the
traditional nix point of view ... it's monolithic, doesn't have strong
scripting or command line options, defaults to top-posting, etc etc
etc  but if your users are used to Outlook they will understand
and like the GW approach.

I've never used Open-xchange but what I have *heard* is that it is
quite nice, but not as polished, not as complete feature-wise for
collaboration, etc ... but I don't really know.

HTH

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[opensuse] Groupwise - Open-Xchange

2007-05-08 Thread Catherine Carminati

 
Hi all
 
I work at a company that has about 160 users, we are thinking of upgrading
our servers, one of them
being the mail server.
what i would like to find out is if anyone works with Groupwise 7 and if you
would recommend 
the product. Almost all our users use Outlook 2000 / outlook xp / outlook
2003 and outlook 2007,
some also use outlook express. 
I have also read about Open-xchange. anyone using the product?
 
Thanks in advance!!
 
Catherine

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[opensuse] corrupt beryl on nvidia

2007-05-08 Thread primm
I've installed the nvidia only method of getting beryl to work as per the 
opensuse wiki. On loading beryl-manager everything is double. Two desktops, 
two taskbars, two windows of everything. . . I'm using kde so I did:

aquamarine --replace &
[1] 12417
Found not compatible window manager. Waiting...

beryl-manager fires up fine with no errors.

Can anyone help?

10.2 and nvidia 6100

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread frank nelson

--- John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen
> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP

>
http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2006/11/microsoft_claim.html
> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7228555922.html
>
http://www.forbes.com/home/enterprisetech/2006/03/22/ballmer-microsoft-linux-cz_df_0322microsoft.html
>
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/17/1324248
>
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/108806.asp?source=rss
>
http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/20061121/novell_rejects_microsofts_ip_claims-id-102189.html
>
http://www.itworldcanada.com//Pages/Docbase/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=idgml-845c571e-47c3-40af-93c5-d1b2cc308cd7
> http://dotnet.sys-con.com/read/308332.htm

> I find it interesting that Mr Hovsepian seems to
> know all about this issue
> and is worried about it enough to address it on
> Novell's web site, but 
> yet Mr Meissner remains ignorant of the issue.
> 
> Head in sand Marcus?
> 
> -- 
> _
> John Andersen

You used the word "still" as in ongoing. These are all
from last year. If you have nothing newer to cite,
your claim is false. 

More accurately;

In the past, Mr. Ballmer made spurious charges about
MS IP in Linux, which Mr. Hovsepian promptly refuted.

Without the bullshit, that's the whole story. Not much
to write about. Any elaboration beyond that, from any
quarter, qualifies as FUD if not accompanied by
credible evidence. You've presented none, beyond that
event in November, 2006, which is summed up in the
single sentence above.

 


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Re: [opensuse] RE: Current Kernal handeling of multi core 64bit Processors

2007-05-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 19:29, Registration Account wrote:
> Carlos,
> Exactly the response I was looking for. After having to deal with the
> appalling memory management of other PC  O/S you have answered the
> question perfectly.
>
> However, I now need to know is there a process that removes items from
> cache after a period of time or will available memory be used to cache
> continually without being flushed.
>
> Now my query comes down to "unused cache flush time" and
> "flush cache due to processing demands determination"
>
> Thanks
> Scott
>
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Monday 2007-05-07 at 07:25 +1000, Registration Account wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > For example I have 2 GIG of RAM currently and am thinking of changing
> > > it to 4 GIG. I understand that the kernel can use more file cacheing,
> > > but that is what I do not want to know. With the superior way the Linux
> > > Kernel  manages Memory, if we remove the increased file caching ability
> > > will the Kernel  be able to utilise the extra memory  registers for
> > > processing.
> >
> > I think you got it wrong... if there is more memory, programs will be
> > able
> > to use more memory, /if/ they request it. All unused memory will simply
> > end up being used as cache.
> >
> > If currently, with 2G, you see no swap used, increasing the ram will not
> > give more memory to programs.

Scott,

play a little with command "free" starting programs and you will see that 
cache is disappearing in favor of programs. 

$ free
> total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>Mem:898672 639876 258796  0  43044 387420
-/+ buffers/cache: 209412 689260
Swap:  2104472  02104472

Started new KDE session:
$ free
> total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>Mem:898672 737620 161052  0  49596 392664
-/+ buffers/cache: 295360 603312
Swap:  2104472  02104472

Buffers belong to applications, with new session they went from 209412 kB to 
295360 kB and in the same time cache went from 689260 to 603312. 

$ cat /proc/meminfo 
gives more information. Though the only explanation is somewhat obsolete:
http://www.redhat.com/advice/tips/meminfo.html
 
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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Robert Smits wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 13:02, you wrote:

Robert Smits wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 07:02, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

free to shut the f*** up

 - Toujours la Politesse?

It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
to, and the person who made it.

Do you have a problem with that?

Yes. Such language is better reserved for other 10 year olds who may
think it impresses someone. It does, but not in the way you intend.

And in response to completely ignorant assholes, on whom
milder language is ineffective.

Are you campaigning to join that list?


Not particularly, but that kind of language is inappropriate for the tone and 



So was his remark.

Now quit criticizing negative reinforcement while using it yourself.


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[opensuse] foomatic-rip failed

2007-05-08 Thread George Osvald
Recently I upgraded my computers to Suse 10.2. Two of them were no
problem but the third one gives me a headache.
Since the upgrade it would not print into my HP Officejet. It still
prints into Dymo labelwriter because I have it set up as raw printer.
I get this error message from my CUPS 
server:  "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
I tried all sorts of things without a success. This printer was
printing fine with a previous version and I also have two other (with
SuSe 10.2) computers printing into HP printers no problems.

I'd appreciate any help.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, Joachim Schrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So, did you try to downgrade the xorg packages?

You can get the previous versions from the update archives, e.g., from
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/x86_64/update/10.0/rpm/x86_64/
You'll probably need to downgrade xorg-x11-libs and
xorg-x11-server. (I can't say it exactly, since I don't have a
x86_64 system -- but on my i586 system these were the recent xorg
updates.)

That should give you an opportunity to verify your hypothesis that
your problem is cause by the xorg update.

Joachim


Hmmm, there I find only 6.8.2-100, which is what I currently have. I
need the previous version.

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Re: [opensuse] double X server problem ATI fglrx driver SOLVED

2007-05-08 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 19:47, M Harris wrote:
> For the archive...
As an aside, this is why closed proprietary drivers are  e v i l.  
Can't 
figure out how it works, can't fix it once I know, can't fork it off and 
build my own (better) and I have to live with a bug for a while.
I opened a ticket with the AMD ATI folks to get their feedback on this 
drvier 
behavior... and to let them know why this is frustrating.
But the bottom line is that the community need open source 3D drivers 
for 
these ATI cards... I'm about to the point where I am not going to touch 
another one of them... and I'm gonna tell them so



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Re: [opensuse] problems after upgrade to 10.2

2007-05-08 Thread Carlos F Lange
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 19:05, George Osvald wrote:
> Thank you Seth. That was very helpful. Everything works now ewxcept
> for printing. My CUPS server still says:
> /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
> when I try to print to my HP Officejet.

Since this is a new problem, I recommend that you heed Seth's advice 
about not following up new questions in old threads (called 
thread-highjacking). In case you don't know what we are talking about, 
turn on threads in Kmail under Folder/Thread Messages.
To increase the chances of getting more help, start a new message (not a 
reply) to this list and say in the subject something like "CUPS filter 
failed". For more detailed instructions see here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Opensuse_mailing_list_netiquette

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Re: [opensuse] Question on DVD authoring

2007-05-08 Thread Brett Lyon
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16:45, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> I have a .avi file that I need to burn to a dvd, I know that I can't
> just load the .avi file into k3b and burn it.  I have KDE DVDauthor
> Wizard and QDVDauthor installed on my system but neather one of them
> will accept the .avi, I need to encode it to a mpeg 2 format.  In
> order to encode it I have kvideoencoder and videomaker installed, the
> thing with them are that nether one of them wants to work.  In
> videomaker I get a transcode error, I have transcode 1.0.3 installed.
> I do not know the details in order to get kvideoencoder to work, I
> need to know what framerate, bitrate, resolution and I don't know what
> I need to set them to.


I can highly recommend

DeVeDe
http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html

It uses mencoder instead of transcode and works like a charm for me every 
single time for just the situation you describe. Make an ISO and burn to disc 
with K3B.

Available now at a Packman mirror near you.

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Re: [opensuse] RE: Current Kernal handeling of multi core 64bit Processors

2007-05-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 07 May 2007 18:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2007-05-07 at 07:25 +1000, Registration Account wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > For example I have 2 GIG of RAM currently and am thinking of
> > changing it to 4 GIG. I understand that the kernel can use more
> > file cacheing, but that is what I do not want to know. With the
> > superior way the Linux Kernel  manages Memory, if we remove the
> > increased file caching ability will the Kernel  be able to utilise
> > the extra memory  registers for processing.
>
> I think you got it wrong... if there is more memory, programs will be
> able to use more memory, /if/ they request it. All unused memory will
> simply end up being used as cache.
>
> If currently, with 2G, you see no swap used, increasing the ram will
> not give more memory to programs.

This is true, as far as it goes. However, the kernel makes good use of 
physical memory pages not currently needed by applications. It uses 
them to cache disk contents and reduce the amount of physical disk I/O 
required to satisfy any given set of file system requests.

So even if your application mix never needs more than, say, 1GB, having 
2GB or 4GB (or any larger amount, as long as your hardware is such that 
it's actually accessible, which depends in large part on the CPU you're 
using--modern systems can all typically access at least 2 or 3GB), 
having more than that much physical RAM can still improve your system's 
overall throughput.


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>Carlos E. R.


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Re: [opensuse] problems after upgrade to 10.2

2007-05-08 Thread George Osvald
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 04:22, Seth Arnold wrote:
> Chances are very good that your AppArmor profiles are all out of date.
> In August 2006 we modified the AppArmor profile language to address
> failings; the full details are here:
>
>   http://marc.info/?l=apparmor-general&m=115477304809811&w=4


Thank you Seth. That was very helpful. Everything works now ewxcept for 
printing. My CUPS server still says:
/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed
when I try to print to my HP Officejet.

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[opensuse] double X server problem ATI fglrx driver SOLVED

2007-05-08 Thread M Harris
For the archive...

I recently updated an on-board pci video with the ATI X1050 (hardware) and 
activated the card's 3D accelerator (see the archive for the details). 

I soon noticed that two X servers were running (one session owner, the other 
sleeping) both on  :0  vtty7, the one looking like a fork of the other... 
same mem, same start time, incremental process id, no associated  -:0  and no 
running time... obviously not doing anything except taking up memory and 
irritating me. :-O

Well, I wanted the fglrx driver from ATI for the 3D acceleration and failed to 
realize that the larger contribution of the driver is dual head support. 
Although I had the xorg.conf configured as only one screen, CLONE mode off, 
Xinerama off, DesktopSetup "s" (single), and have only ONE display card with 
only ONE monitor... the silly driver starts a second X server to handle the 
second head --- if I ever want to add it !

I have not been able to find a way to prevent the startup, except to turn on 
Xinerama. Xinerama will handle both monitors on one X server as one large 
desk... or, by turning Xinerama off two X servers can be running, one for 
each of the monitors. If I turn on Xinerama then the second X server does not 
startup... *and*  3D acceleration is not activated.   

Of course all the help on the web is regarding HOWTO make dual heads work... 
not HOWTO disable dual heads   :^)So, it looks like this little 
feature is normal... the second server (always has a larger process number 
and Stat codes of SL+ ) can be killed -SIGTERM, and the primary session owner 
will function fine without it--- (has a lower process id, active time, and 
Stat codes of SLs+ ).   Or if memory is not an issue... just let it sit in 
memory  I'm pretty sure its not a trojan waiting to do something naughty.  
Probably not.  Most likely not.  nah.


  

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Re: [opensuse] Update Server - Very OT!!

2007-05-08 Thread Registration Account
No quite right, however it is measured in hops. Distance and remoteness
often influence amount of hops. Time is the issue here and time is
consumed with every hop. If it takes 30 hops to reach Germany from
Alaska and only 10 to reach Japan the decisions is clear.

Useful tools, if you currently don't know about, are available at
www.dnsstuff.com

Regards
Scott

John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 06 May 2007, Registration Account wrote:
>   
>> I just completed another install of 10.2 and I live in Australia...O.K
>> The update server the install program choose for me is in
>> Russia!!
>> There are 2 x mirrors in my country 1 in Japan and a few in Asia I think
>> may have been a better choice.
>> 
>  
>
> So what's the problem?
> The internet is not measured in miles.
>
> I (living in Alaska) often choose a server in Germany over one in
> my same timezone, because most people in Germany are asleep
> when I am awake, and their servers and bandwidth are less
> used at that time.
>
>
>
>   


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Magnus Boman
Hi John,

On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:57 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:35 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007 13:41, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> > > > > on Mars for the last year.
> > > >
> > > >   Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
> > > > question.
> > >
> > > Fairly asked question? This is either a mistake, in that John suggested 
> > > the FUD part of the question to refer to the validity of Ballmer's
> > > claims, or a troll, and I suspect the former.  The Linux mailing lists
> > > have been all over Monkey-Boy Steve Ballmer's comments. Here's just one
> > > quote, from
> >
> >   Marcus Meissner is an Engineer at SuSE, that makes me think he's not
> > being a troll.
> >
> 
> We know who Marcuse is.  That's why we are surprised that his CEO knows 
> Ballmer is still claiming linux violates MS IP, but Marcus seems to pretend 
> this is not happening.
> 
> Others seem to think that just because Ballmer has not said anything 
> in the last week that he has forgotten the issue.  That would be a foolish
> mistake.  As soon as he has redhat and suse signed onto his agreement
> all the small players will find themselves in court.

This is great! I've been looking for someone that could see in to the
future. I know this is slightly off-topic, but...
Would you mind sending me a private email with the winning numbers for
tomorrows draw?
Thanks so much in advance.

> 
> 
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Re: [opensuse] RE: Current Kernal handeling of multi core 64bit Processors

2007-05-08 Thread Registration Account
Carlos,
Exactly the response I was looking for. After having to deal with the
appalling memory management of other PC  O/S you have answered the
question perfectly.

However, I now need to know is there a process that removes items from
cache after a period of time or will available memory be used to cache
continually without being flushed.

Now my query comes down to "unused cache flush time" and
"flush cache due to processing demands determination"

Thanks
Scott

Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> The Monday 2007-05-07 at 07:25 +1000, Registration Account wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > For example I have 2 GIG of RAM currently and am thinking of changing it
> > to 4 GIG. I understand that the kernel can use more file cacheing, but
> > that is what I do not want to know. With the superior way the Linux
> > Kernel  manages Memory, if we remove the increased file caching ability
> > will the Kernel  be able to utilise the extra memory  registers for
> > processing.
>
> I think you got it wrong... if there is more memory, programs will be
> able
> to use more memory, /if/ they request it. All unused memory will simply
> end up being used as cache.
>
> If currently, with 2G, you see no swap used, increasing the ram will not
> give more memory to programs.
>



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Re: [opensuse] kdm starts twice, not good

2007-05-08 Thread Registration Account
If you have a KDE Desktop open Control Centre>KDE Components>KDE
Performance
check the value in
Preload an Instance after KDE startup
AND
Maximum number of instances kept preloaded

Hope this helps -
Scott

Vince L wrote:
> I seem to have got myself to a situation where kdm shows itself in the tty1 
> console as starting twice at boot into runlevel 5. The outcome is a solid 
> freeze, usually sooner rather than later, requiring a reset. If I boot to 
> runlevel 3 and call kdm from the tty1 console, all is fine
>
> I have done a little 'print' debugging and found that K15xdm gets called 
> twice, I think as part of runlevel change. Can anyone point me to a good 
> resource which will help me trace through the process of changing to runlevel 
> 5, and get to the bottom of the problem?
>
> Using boxed opensuse 10.2, AMD 64 bit with dual opterons and a matrox g450, 
> FWIW - I am more inclined to think it is to do with fiddling with 
> the /etc/sysconfig editor and inadvertently changing things.
>
> Thanks 
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Re: [opensuse] How do I remove openSUSE?

2007-05-08 Thread George Osvald
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 09:56, David Gregg wrote:
> I am currently running a dual boot with xp on my primary hard drive
> and openSUSE 10.2 on my secondary hard drive. I would like to know how
> to remove suse and return to a single operating system.
>
> For those who are curious I am going back temporarily until I can get
> a larger hard drive, my projects on xp are demanding the extra
> space...

Use the SuSe DVD and repartition the drive in Windows format. Windows will 
then be able to see the drive.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Michael Nelson
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:59:03AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:

> You're right, another typical problem cause. And, home directory 
> and ~/.ssh must not be world-writable either, and must be owned by 
> the user; otherwise that blocks usage, too. (StrictModes parameter 
> in sshd_config.)

Speaking of sshd_config, if you really want to use the British spelling, you
can set the "AuthorizedKeysFile" parameter to .ssh/authorised_keys.

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[opensuse] Re: rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Joachim Schrod

Michael Nelson wrote:

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:30:35AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:

Maybe because the file is named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (with a 
"z"), i.e., American and not British spelling?


The other thing that tends to bite people is permissions on
~/.ssh/authorized_keys.  It needs to be 644 ... ie: not writable by anyone
but the owner.  If the permissions are too loose, the passwordless login
will fail.


You're right, another typical problem cause. And, home directory 
and ~/.ssh must not be world-writable either, and must be owned by 
the user; otherwise that blocks usage, too. (StrictModes parameter 
in sshd_config.)


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[opensuse] How do I remove openSUSE?

2007-05-08 Thread David Gregg

I am currently running a dual boot with xp on my primary hard drive
and openSUSE 10.2 on my secondary hard drive. I would like to know how
to remove suse and return to a single operating system.

For those who are curious I am going back temporarily until I can get
a larger hard drive, my projects on xp are demanding the extra
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[opensuse] Re: cron problems

2007-05-08 Thread Joachim Schrod

Mohamed Haidar wrote:

Hello guys, I have a problem with cron. I got a program for updating my
ip to a internet dns host and i set it up correctly. The program  works.
Now with the program came a file  that i putt in the /etc/cron.d dir
because the program instructed me to do that. Basically  what I want to
do is to let the program run once a minute. The file I putt in the
cron.d dir contains these entries :

 * *   * * *   root/usr/bin/ipdetect.sh
 */15 *  * * *   root/usr/bin/ipdetect.sh -p host -r browser -c

 Now cron doesn't run the ipdetect script, never. I did some
investigation and I found out that cron doesn't have any log files or
conf files on my system, which I thought was a bit strange.


cron logs via syslog; there should be log records about the start 
of each job in /var/log/messages. The exception is when your 
crontab line starts with "-" (a hyphen), then job start logging is 
turned off. (In fact, when your ipdetect cron job really works, you 
might want to turn off job start logging that way.)


If there are no respective log entries, execute "touch /etc/cron.d" 
to be on the save side.
cron detects changes in files in cron.d only if the timestamp of 
the directory /etc/cron.d changes as well. Alternatively, call 
"rccron restart".


After touching cron.d, there must be log entry that cron re-read 
the crontab files, maybe one or two minutes later.


Your crontab syntax itself is OK, that's not the cause.

Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] Re: rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Michael Nelson
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:47:53PM -0700, Michael Nelson wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:30:35AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:
> 
> > Maybe because the file is named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (with a 
> > "z"), i.e., American and not British spelling?
> 
> The other thing that tends to bite people is permissions on
> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys.  It needs to be 644 ... ie: not writable by anyone
> but the owner.  If the permissions are too loose, the passwordless login
> will fail.

Actually, I always make authorized_keys 600... but I read in a RedHat manual
that 644 should work.  I think I will stick with 600.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Michael Nelson
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:30:35AM +0200, Joachim Schrod wrote:

> Maybe because the file is named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (with a 
> "z"), i.e., American and not British spelling?

The other thing that tends to bite people is permissions on
~/.ssh/authorized_keys.  It needs to be 644 ... ie: not writable by anyone
but the owner.  If the permissions are too loose, the passwordless login
will fail.

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[opensuse] Re: cron issue

2007-05-08 Thread Joachim Schrod

Nick Jones wrote:


First off cron doesn't log for shit.  Sendmail wasn't running so I
turned postfix on to see if mail shows up in root, it hasn't after 6
hours.  I can see cron starting up in /var/log/messages, but that is
it.  I simply want to place a script called backup under cron.daily.


Maybe you'll start your investigation by discarding the "-" at the 
start of the run-crons command line in /etc/crontab. Then the 
execution of run-crons is logged in syslog.


There you can see if it is called at all.

Then, run "sh -x /usr/lib/cron/run-crons" to see what happens in 
the run-cron script and what scripts are called when. Maybe the 
check for ac-power is wrong, or whatever.


Up to 10.0, do *not* create the timestamp file in 
/var/spool/cron/lastrun, to the contrary: _remove it_ for each and 
every test anew. You might think that you can set the timestamp of 
that file with touch, but that's not the case: run-cron uses its 
ctime, not its mtime. So "ls -l" does not show you the time that 
would be used.


From 10.1 onwards, there is a config variable in 
/etc/sysconfig/cron that tells when cron.daily/* should be executed.


I hope that puts you on the right track.

Joachim

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[opensuse] Re: rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Joachim Schrod

James D. Parra wrote:

Hi,


Having a couple of problems with rsync and keys. I need to run an rsync
session as a cron job and need to bypass the password request. I generated
the local and public keys and have the public key saved in the target
machine in ~/.ssh/authorised_keys, however whenever I use ssh or rsync both
still request a password. 


Maybe because the file is named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (with a 
"z"), i.e., American and not British spelling?


Tip: First make "ssh target_system id" succeed without password 
request, then configure your rsync cron job.


Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 5/8/07, James D. Parra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

Having a couple of problems with rsync and keys. I need to run an rsync
session as a cron job and need to bypass the password request. I generated
the local and public keys and have the public key saved in the target
machine in ~/.ssh/authorised_keys, however whenever I use ssh or rsync both
still request a password.



Is your private key in ~/.ssh/id_rsa ?

If so, I think it should work. (for everyone except root.  For root
there may be other issues.  I never do that.).

FYI: I have ssh and rsync working without passwords.

FYI2: If your running rsync from cron, I recommend using the
--partial_dir argument.  It will allow a "large file" transfer to be
interrupted in the middle and pickup where it left off the next time
around.

FYI3: I have my nightly rsync wrapped with bash retry logic like this

=== Bash retry logic for rsync
START=`date +%s`
MAX_TIME='14400'# 4 hours--Keep restarting if the timeout is in
the middle of the night

for (( DELTA=0 ; DELTA < MAX_TIME ; DELTA = NOW - START))
do
   rsync -avh --stats --timeout=1800 --partial-dir=...
if [ $? != 30 ]
then
  break
fi
NOW=`date +%s`
done
===

The 30 return code happens if you have a timeout.  I have those
occasionally and thus the retry loop.  I started with a smaller
timeout, but if you are sending a 2 or 3GB file when the timeout
occurs, then it can take 10+ minutes to restart the data i/o and
shorted timeouts keep you from ever reconnecting.

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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft-Novell partnership hooks Dell | Channel Register

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 5/8/07, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 13:29 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Interesting bit of news, see below...
>
> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/05/07/microsoft-novell_signs_dell/

Interesting that the SUSE licenses come from MS, not Novell. And that MS
have already given out 4 licenses.



Are these the same coupons discussed before: "Coupons apply
specifically to SLES running as a virtual guest in a host Windows
operating system or vice versa."

If so, it is not too surprising that Dell would rather get them from
M$.  That way they should not have M$ telling their customers that
running SLES is not supported in a M$ virtual machine.  I know if I
was an Enterprise customer I would want that confidence.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:35 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2007 13:41, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP
> > > > >
> > > > > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> > > >
> > > > If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> > > > on Mars for the last year.
> > >
> > >   Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
> > > question.
> >
> > Fairly asked question? This is either a mistake, in that John suggested 
> > the FUD part of the question to refer to the validity of Ballmer's
> > claims, or a troll, and I suspect the former.  The Linux mailing lists
> > have been all over Monkey-Boy Steve Ballmer's comments. Here's just one
> > quote, from
>
>   Marcus Meissner is an Engineer at SuSE, that makes me think he's not
> being a troll.
>

We know who Marcuse is.  That's why we are surprised that his CEO knows 
Ballmer is still claiming linux violates MS IP, but Marcus seems to pretend 
this is not happening.

Others seem to think that just because Ballmer has not said anything 
in the last week that he has forgotten the issue.  That would be a foolish
mistake.  As soon as he has redhat and suse signed onto his agreement
all the small players will find themselves in court.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Mike McMullin
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:35 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007 13:41, Mike McMullin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP
> > > >
> > > > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> > >
> > > If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> > > on Mars for the last year.
> >
> >   Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
> > question.
> 
> Fairly asked question? This is either a mistake, in that John suggested  the 
> FUD part of the question to refer to the validity of Ballmer's claims, or a 
> troll, and I suspect the former.  The Linux mailing lists have been all over 
> Monkey-Boy Steve Ballmer's comments. Here's just one quote, from

  Marcus Meissner is an Engineer at SuSE, that makes me think he's not
being a troll.

  {snip}

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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Alexandru Matei

Regarding the issue that Suse 10.2 x64 hangs, I've already tried the
failsafe mode to no result, it still hangs. I'll investigate more
tomorrow, since I have to get up in the morning to go to work :)

Now, the ATI Driver is probably to blame, though it worked fine on the
same system when I had only 2 GB of RAM. Probably he doesn't like the
extra 2GB or there is a mixup with the memory addressing, since I am
currently using the x32 version of suse (the x64 can't be installed,
for it hangs :( ).

Thanks for all your help,
Alex


On 5/9/07, S Glasoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday May 8 2007 5:09:56 pm Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> No, I've added two more DIMMs, but I've made sure they are exactly the
> same type as the first two (I now have 4xCorsair DDR2 667Mhz,
> 4-4-4-12). The BIOS settings are ok, and, since all four memories are
> exactly the same, I've not tried to swap them.

That's what you'd like to believe. This is high speed memory and being
produced at different times there will be differences. Since the graphics
seems to be the key to your lock-ups I doubt your main memory is the issue.

> I've also updated the system bios (my version is from 27.04.2007); it
> is set to default as far as the timings are concerned. I shall try
> with the ordinary video drivers tomorrow. BTW, the ZEN kernel works -
> dunno why (but I have no acceleration for the ATI video driver, which
> I really hate).

I'm guessing that Xen is using the base radeon 2D driver because I don't
believe it supports, or maybe AMD/ATI don't support, 3D on Xen yet (host or
guest.?.?).

> I've also downloaded an X64 version of the install DVD, but when I try
> to start the setup, the system hangs at the line:
>
>   'Loading basic drivers...'

Try failsafe mode for the install or at least acpi=off and see what happens.

> It just stays there forever. I'm beginning to feel sorry I've upgraded
> the RAM... :(

You probably are uncovering new bug reports! RAM seems fine. It sounds like
the classic video driver hang from everything you are reporting.
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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread S Glasoe
On Tuesday May 8 2007 5:09:56 pm Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> No, I've added two more DIMMs, but I've made sure they are exactly the
> same type as the first two (I now have 4xCorsair DDR2 667Mhz,
> 4-4-4-12). The BIOS settings are ok, and, since all four memories are
> exactly the same, I've not tried to swap them.

That's what you'd like to believe. This is high speed memory and being 
produced at different times there will be differences. Since the graphics 
seems to be the key to your lock-ups I doubt your main memory is the issue.

> I've also updated the system bios (my version is from 27.04.2007); it
> is set to default as far as the timings are concerned. I shall try
> with the ordinary video drivers tomorrow. BTW, the ZEN kernel works -
> dunno why (but I have no acceleration for the ATI video driver, which
> I really hate).

I'm guessing that Xen is using the base radeon 2D driver because I don't 
believe it supports, or maybe AMD/ATI don't support, 3D on Xen yet (host or 
guest.?.?).

> I've also downloaded an X64 version of the install DVD, but when I try
> to start the setup, the system hangs at the line:
>
>   'Loading basic drivers...'

Try failsafe mode for the install or at least acpi=off and see what happens.

> It just stays there forever. I'm beginning to feel sorry I've upgraded
> the RAM... :(

You probably are uncovering new bug reports! RAM seems fine. It sounds like 
the classic video driver hang from everything you are reporting.
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[opensuse] cron problems

2007-05-08 Thread Mohamed Haidar

Hello guys, I have a problem with cron. I got a program for updating my
ip to a internet dns host and i set it up correctly. The program  works.
Now with the program came a file  that i putt in the /etc/cron.d dir
because the program instructed me to do that. Basically  what I want to
do is to let the program run once a minute. The file I putt in the
cron.d dir contains these entries :

 * *   * * *   root/usr/bin/ipdetect.sh
 */15 *  * * *   root/usr/bin/ipdetect.sh -p host -r browser -c

 Now cron doesn't run the ipdetect script, never. I did some
investigation and I found out that cron doesn't have any log files or
conf files on my system, which I thought was a bit strange.
 So all I did was to putt the file in the /etc/cron.d dir, do I have to
do anything else or is the a problem with the cronsetup on my system or
what do you guys think. If I do a ps aux then I find that cron is
running on the system from boot.
Thx guys for your aid. Regards, mohed.

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[opensuse] rsync woes

2007-05-08 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Having a couple of problems with rsync and keys. I need to run an rsync
session as a cron job and need to bypass the password request. I generated
the local and public keys and have the public key saved in the target
machine in ~/.ssh/authorised_keys, however whenever I use ssh or rsync both
still request a password. 

Is there a step I am missing?

Many thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] USB 2.0 external hard drives

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Smits
On Monday 07 May 2007 07:41, James Knott wrote:
> jpff wrote:
> > It had to be said. I worked on the Burroughs B1700 which has a
> > 1bit word; it was bit addressable and as a soft machine the programmer
> > could select whatever virtual word length they liked.  I remember the
> > other LISP team changing from 22 to 23 bits one day.  There was an
> > advantage to 24 bit virtual words, but at its heart it was a 1bit
> > machine. ==John ffitch
>
> Anyone here with a 2 bit computer?  ;-)
>

You remind me of Harry martin's description of Windows 95 - to wit:

Windows 95:n. 1 Global Virus 2. 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell 
written for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for 
a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of 
competition. 

Bob


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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexandru Matei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 18:10]:
 [...]
> It just stays there forever. I'm beginning to feel sorry I've upgraded
> the RAM... :(

then remove 1/2 and do the install, then replace the ram.

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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Alexandru Matei

Hello,

No, I've added two more DIMMs, but I've made sure they are exactly the
same type as the first two (I now have 4xCorsair DDR2 667Mhz,
4-4-4-12). The BIOS settings are ok, and, since all four memories are
exactly the same, I've not tried to swap them.

I've also updated the system bios (my version is from 27.04.2007); it
is set to default as far as the timings are concerned. I shall try
with the ordinary video drivers tomorrow. BTW, the ZEN kernel works -
dunno why (but I have no acceleration for the ATI video driver, which
I really hate).


I've also downloaded an X64 version of the install DVD, but when I try
to start the setup, the system hangs at the line:

'Loading basic drivers...'

It just stays there forever. I'm beginning to feel sorry I've upgraded
the RAM... :(

Alex


On 5/9/07, S Glasoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday May 8 2007 2:08:03 pm Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Ok, from what I understand, I'll never see the entire 4GB unless I
> install a 64-bit OS. But I would still like to be able to run openSuse
> 10.2. :) Does anyone know why the issue below happens?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Alex
>
> On 5/8/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Alexandru Matei wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've recently upgraded my RAM to 4GB and since then, when the X server
> > > starts, the computer slows down a lot - what I mean by slows down is
> > > that:

Did you replace your original 2GB with the 4GB of modules you have now? IF
yes, good. If no, then you may have timing issues between the modules that
may be causing your lock-ups. Are you keeping the 4GB in matched pairs? Have
you swapped the pairs in their sockets?

I'm not familiar with your mainboard but have you made sure the BIOS is set
for default timings and not for any performance settings? Same for video
settings within the BIOS. Have you checked for and applied the latest BIOS
for this mainboard?

You won't be able to use all 4GB because the BIOS maps out PCI, DMA and other
things into the high end of your 4GB. The exact amount reserved is usually
mainboard/BIOS dependent. Your swap space/file has nothing to do with this
unless your system is somehow using all available RAM and immediately using
swap during boot - unlikely.

Next would be to downgrade any X.org updates and/or ATI driver updates. Maybe
even go back to the basic 2D radeon driver to see if stability returns.
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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread S Glasoe
On Tuesday May 8 2007 2:08:03 pm Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Ok, from what I understand, I'll never see the entire 4GB unless I
> install a 64-bit OS. But I would still like to be able to run openSuse
> 10.2. :) Does anyone know why the issue below happens?
>
> Thank you very much,
> Alex
>
> On 5/8/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Alexandru Matei wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've recently upgraded my RAM to 4GB and since then, when the X server
> > > starts, the computer slows down a lot - what I mean by slows down is
> > > that:

Did you replace your original 2GB with the 4GB of modules you have now? IF 
yes, good. If no, then you may have timing issues between the modules that 
may be causing your lock-ups. Are you keeping the 4GB in matched pairs? Have 
you swapped the pairs in their sockets?

I'm not familiar with your mainboard but have you made sure the BIOS is set 
for default timings and not for any performance settings? Same for video 
settings within the BIOS. Have you checked for and applied the latest BIOS 
for this mainboard?

You won't be able to use all 4GB because the BIOS maps out PCI, DMA and other 
things into the high end of your 4GB. The exact amount reserved is usually 
mainboard/BIOS dependent. Your swap space/file has nothing to do with this 
unless your system is somehow using all available RAM and immediately using 
swap during boot - unlikely.

Next would be to downgrade any X.org updates and/or ATI driver updates. Maybe 
even go back to the basic 2D radeon driver to see if stability returns.
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[opensuse] Riso CR1610EP printer

2007-05-08 Thread Stuart Murray-Smith

Hi list

Could anyone please inform me how to get the Riso CR1610EP printer
configured under SuSE 10.x?

TiA

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[opensuse] Riso CR1610EP printer

2007-05-08 Thread Stuart Murray-Smith

Hi list

Could anyone please inform me how to get the Riso CR1610EP printer
configured under SuSE 10.x?

TiA

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Smits
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 13:41, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP
> > >
> > > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> >
> > If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> > on Mars for the last year.
>
>   Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
> question.

Fairly asked question? This is either a mistake, in that John suggested  the 
FUD part of the question to refer to the validity of Ballmer's claims, or a 
troll, and I suspect the former.  The Linux mailing lists have been all over 
Monkey-Boy Steve Ballmer's comments. Here's just one quote, from
 
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9005171

November 16, 2006  (Computerworld) -- In comments confirming the open-source 
community's suspicions, Microsoft Corp. CEO Steve Ballmer today declared his 
belief that the Linux operating system infringes on Microsoft's intellectual 
property.

In a question-and-answer session after his keynote speech at the Professional 
Association for SQL Server (PASS) conference in Seattle, Ballmer said 
Microsoft was motivated to sign a deal with SUSE Linux distributor Novell 
Inc. earlier this month because Linux "uses our intellectual property" and 
Microsoft wanted to "get the appropriate economic return for our shareholders 
from our innovation."
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Re: [opensuse] Dualhead with TV

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, Sunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



as a starter, please post this line 135, or better, the while section
it belong to.



I meant whole, not while :)

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Re: [opensuse] Dualhead with TV

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, michael norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I'm trying to set up dualhead on 10.2 with a geforce fx5200 card, an Acer pc
monitor and a Phillips tv which sax identifies as PHL PHILIPS 23"WXGATV.  I
have set the resolution for the tv to 1024x768 (WXGA).

This fails with the error that " parse error in line 135 section device in
file /var/lib/sax/xorg.conf "WXGATV" is not a valid keyword in this section "

Any clues what to do ?

I'm quite happy to edit the xorg files by hand if I have to.

TIA

Mike


as a starter, please post this line 135, or better, the while section
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[opensuse] Dualhead with TV

2007-05-08 Thread michael norman
Hi

I'm trying to set up dualhead on 10.2 with a geforce fx5200 card, an Acer pc 
monitor and a Phillips tv which sax identifies as PHL PHILIPS 23"WXGATV.  I 
have set the resolution for the tv to 1024x768 (WXGA).

This fails with the error that " parse error in line 135 section device in 
file /var/lib/sax/xorg.conf "WXGATV" is not a valid keyword in this section "

Any clues what to do ?

I'm quite happy to edit the xorg files by hand if I have to.

TIA

Mike
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Re: [opensuse] Question on DVD authoring

2007-05-08 Thread Carlos Lorenzo Matés
Hi.

El Martes, 8 de Mayo de 2007, Adam Jimerson escribió:
> I have a .avi file that I need to burn to a dvd, I know that I can't
> just load the .avi file into k3b and burn it.  I have KDE DVDauthor
> Wizard and QDVDauthor installed on my system but neather one of them
> will accept the .avi, I need to encode it to a mpeg 2 format.  In
> order to encode it I have kvideoencoder and videomaker installed, the
> thing with them are that nether one of them wants to work.  In
> videomaker I get a transcode error, I have transcode 1.0.3 installed.
> I do not know the details in order to get kvideoencoder to work, I
> need to know what framerate, bitrate, resolution and I don't know what
> I need to set them to.

have a look at tovid is a nice command to encode avi to several mpeg variants




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Re: [opensuse] Question on DVD authoring

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, Adam Jimerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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I have a .avi file that I need to burn to a dvd, I know that I can't
just load the .avi file into k3b and burn it.  I have KDE DVDauthor
Wizard and QDVDauthor installed on my system but neather one of them
will accept the .avi, I need to encode it to a mpeg 2 format.  In
order to encode it I have kvideoencoder and videomaker installed, the
thing with them are that nether one of them wants to work.  In
videomaker I get a transcode error, I have transcode 1.0.3 installed.
I do not know the details in order to get kvideoencoder to work, I
need to know what framerate, bitrate, resolution and I don't know what
I need to set them to.


you can use any2dvd (http://sourceforge.net/projects/any2dvd/) script
to convert it. Or you can use avidemux2 (from packman repo) to convert
to mpeg2, and then use dvdauthor (or QDVDAuthor).

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 14:50, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> the more MS proclaims it, the less credible it is...
When is M$ lying...

... when their mouth(s) move.

(the more they move, the worse it gets)




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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Van Lone

On 5/8/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I find it interesting that Mr Hovsepian seems to know all about this issue
and is worried about it enough to address it on Novell's web site, but
yet Mr Meissner remains ignorant of the issue.

Head in sand Marcus?


These are all old, dating to around the time shortly after the
aggreement was announced. Ballmer had one or two interviews/speeches
where he launched into this non-sense, then it was reported on
ad-nauseum. Hardly qualifies as (in your words):

"Much posturing, but Balmer is still
claiming Linux violates MS IP loudly and often. More often than
before."

Below are dates from the citations you list:


By: Enterprise Open Source News Desk
Dec. 2, 2006 09:30 AM
Digg This!
-
Linux OS violates Microsoft's patents, says Ballmer
By: Eric Lai
Computerworld (U.S. online)  (20 Nov 2006)
---
Novell rejects Microsoft's IP claims
by Shubha Krishnappa - November 21, 2006 - 1 comments
-
Posted by Todd Bishop  at November 16, 2006 12:37 p.m.
-

Computer Hardware & Software
Ballmer, Bemused
Daniel Lyons, 03.23.06, 3:15 PM ET
--

Nov. 17, 2006

What a surprise! What a shock! Ballmer thinks Linux rips off Microsoft
intellectual property.
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November 17, 2006

Microsoft claims Linux violates its IP

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Re: [opensuse] uninstall source

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

chika wrote:

fuse is suplied in the distro ready to install in rpm form. Why compile
it?


for update reason(coz there are some new features added), AFAIK there is
no problem to compile from source even the developers+community of ntfs-3g
developers suggest that way



then get the updated RPM.

SHEESH!

Your problems are self-inflicted, and are getting boring


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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Mike McMullin wrote:

On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Mike McMullin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 11:01]:

On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 20:18 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Monday 07 May 2007 19:38, Pueblo Native wrote:

...


This um, Ausie, is probably going to reevaluate whether he is
bound by US law or not while he contemplates in a US
penitentiary... room and board at um, my expense... (US tax payer).

Yet somehow the American government will not let US soldiers be tried
for international war crimes.  Boggles the mind.


Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the right.

  And the left.  IIRC this also happened under Clinton.


Mostly, this all PROVES that this is the incorrect forum for this
discussion, e debate, e complete loss of respect for anyone!


  Agreed, and I think someone even tried moving this to the proper
venue.




Which is why i invited the two people who started the political
tangent to shut the fuck up



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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > > claiming Linux violates MS IP
> > >
> > > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> >
> > If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> > on Mars for the last year.
>
>   Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
> question.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2006/11/microsoft_claim.html
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7228555922.html
http://www.forbes.com/home/enterprisetech/2006/03/22/ballmer-microsoft-linux-cz_df_0322microsoft.html
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/17/1324248
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/108806.asp?source=rss
http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/20061121/novell_rejects_microsofts_ip_claims-id-102189.html
http://www.itworldcanada.com//Pages/Docbase/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=idgml-845c571e-47c3-40af-93c5-d1b2cc308cd7
http://dotnet.sys-con.com/read/308332.htm

"Ron Hovsepian, Novell's CEO, has posted an open letter to the Community, 
where he explicitly states Novell's disagreement with Steve Ballmer's claims 
of Linux infringing on Microsoft's intellectual property. From the 
letter: 'We disagree with the recent statements made by Microsoft on the 
topic of Linux and patents. Importantly, our agreement with Microsoft is in 
no way an acknowledgment that Linux infringes upon any Microsoft intellectual 
property.
From: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/community_open_letter.html

I find it interesting that Mr Hovsepian seems to know all about this issue
and is worried about it enough to address it on Novell's web site, but 
yet Mr Meissner remains ignorant of the issue.

Head in sand Marcus?

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will accept the .avi, I need to encode it to a mpeg 2 format.  In
order to encode it I have kvideoencoder and videomaker installed, the
thing with them are that nether one of them wants to work.  In
videomaker I get a transcode error, I have transcode 1.0.3 installed.
I do not know the details in order to get kvideoencoder to work, I
need to know what framerate, bitrate, resolution and I don't know what
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Re: [opensuse] Software Updater - Error

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Morten Bjørnsvik wrote:

|eddieleprince wrote:
|> Every time I start KDE I get the following error message. It 
|has just 
|> started happening in the last week or so. Anyone has any thoughts? 
|> (openSUSE 10.2, KDE Release 3.5.5 "release 45.4", kernel 
|> 2.6.18.8-0.2-default)

|
|SuSE 10.2 has problems with the YaST online updater, possibly 
|other methods as well.

|
|I had it go south on me once -- reinstalled the whole OS 
|(keeping, of course, my /home, /opt, /local, and /var 
|filesystems), and YaST self-destructed again.

|
|I'm just sitting with my 10.2 in it's original release state, 
|and just waiting for 10.3 to come out(even with no 
|patches, it's still 100's of times safer from malware than LOSEblows)

|

Why not remove zmd altogether:
#rpm -e libzypp-zmd-backend zmd zen-updater rug

You will have the old yast-updater instead, looks the same



I'll try that.


only much faster. If you do not use the search engine beagle (Who does?)
remove mono also. Mono is best at turning core2duos into heat engines.



Not surprising.  Anything inspired by Microsoft (even independantly
developed, like mono, to IMITATE an MS product) is suspect



OpenSuse10.2 without mono is an excellent rock solid release.
Hopefully Novell can put those Ximian folks into good use elsewhere.


Any group who chooss such a ridiculous identity for themselves should
not be trustedlook at the unhappy results which they have
already produced



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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Alexandru Matei wrote:

Hello,

Ok, from what I understand, I'll never see the entire 4GB unless I
install a 64-bit OS. But I would still like to be able to run openSuse
10.2. :) Does anyone know why the issue below happens?


Wrong.
You will never see the entire 4GB *EVER* because the OS does
allow it's own memory footprint to be shown as "available memory"


And SuSE has been releasing the 64-bit kernels since 10.0..maybe
even 9.3.




Thank you very much,
Alex

On 5/8/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've recently upgraded my RAM to 4GB and since then, when the X server
> starts, the computer slows down a lot - what I mean by slows down is
> that:
>
> - although there is some occasional hard disk activity, I never see
> the KDE Desktop, I only get the mouse pointer and that's it
> - if I start a console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, it takes about a minute to
> see the command prompt from the moment I type my (correct) password
> - if after logging in I use the Midnight Commander, it's response is
> very slow and slurgish and navigation through folders is very slow
>
> When I still had 2GB everything was ok. I'm using openSUSE 10.2 on a
> Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 Ghz, 4 MB L2 Cache, FSB 1066 Mhz / Intel DP965LT
> motherboard / 4 x 1 GB Corsair DDR2 675 Mhz, 4-4-4-12 / ATI Radeon
> EAX1300 256MB / WDC S-ATA II 250 GB HDD.
>
> Booting the XEN kernel (second option in the bootloader) works (but no
> ATI video driver is taken into consideration, it defaults to VESA
> mode), but using the default one causes the above problem.
>
> Could you please be as kind so as to give me a suggestion to fix this
> issue? It's really frustrating, as Windows XP and Vista work ok (but
> they don't see the entire 4GB, only 3.25 GB), but I would rather use
> Linux instead (and hopefully have all 4GB available).
>

The Kernel always takes up a certain amount of space, and thus
you will never have *ALL* of the memory listed as "available" --
otherwise, the kernel could be overwritten with user programs
and/or datawhich would definitely be a BAD THING.

As to why you're seeing this with 4GB of mem, but not 2 GB...
perhaps because you also have swap space... and the kernel
is trying to figure out how to manage 4GB + (swap partition)
worth of virtual memory all WITHIN a 32-bit address space..


> Thank you very much,
> Alex



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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Mike McMullin
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Mike McMullin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 11:01]:
> > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 20:18 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > On Monday 07 May 2007 19:38, Pueblo Native wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > >   This um, Ausie, is probably going to reevaluate whether he is
> > > > > bound by US law or not while he contemplates in a US
> > > > > penitentiary... room and board at um, my expense... (US tax payer).
> > > >
> > > > Yet somehow the American government will not let US soldiers be tried
> > > > for international war crimes.  Boggles the mind.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the right.
> > 
> >   And the left.  IIRC this also happened under Clinton.
> 
> 
> Mostly, this all PROVES that this is the incorrect forum for this
> discussion, e debate, e complete loss of respect for anyone!

  Agreed, and I think someone even tried moving this to the proper
venue.

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Robert Smits wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 07:02, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

free to shut the f*** up

 - Toujours la Politesse?

It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
to, and the person who made it.

Do you have a problem with that?


Yes. Such language is better reserved for other 10 year olds who may think it 
impresses someone. It does, but not in the way you intend. 



And in response to completely ignorant assholes, on whom
milder language is ineffective.

Are you campaigning to join that list?


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Mike McMullin
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 11:49 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > > claiming Linux violates MS IP 
> 
> > Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
> 
> If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
> on Mars for the last year.

  Cite it anyway, the onus is now on you, this being a fairly asked
question.

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mike McMullin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 11:01]:
> On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 20:18 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Monday 07 May 2007 19:38, Pueblo Native wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > This um, Ausie, is probably going to reevaluate whether he is
> > > > bound by US law or not while he contemplates in a US
> > > > penitentiary... room and board at um, my expense... (US tax payer).
> > >
> > > Yet somehow the American government will not let US soldiers be tried
> > > for international war crimes.  Boggles the mind.
> > 
> > 
> > Hypocrisy is the hallmark of the right.
> 
>   And the left.  IIRC this also happened under Clinton.


Mostly, this all PROVES that this is the incorrect forum for this
discussion, e debate, e complete loss of respect for anyone!

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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 (SuSE 10.2)

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:

I installed Thunderbird 2.0 over my previous version and got an e-mail
application with a three-row tool bar that freezes every time it
downloads e-mail messages.  Whenever I call it up and download e-mail it
freezes up.  On exiting (aborting) I send off an error message.

I'd like to escape it, but I can't find the previous version at the
T'bird web site.  Where can I find it?



www.mozilla.org

Go to "Project"  and then pick thunderbird, and then select
the appropriate link for prior releases.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Stevens wrote:

Whatever,
with the big three at work, I would bet that it will happen and in such
a way as for everyone involved (Suse, M$ and Dell) to make a buck
or two.


This assumes that there will indeed be some "work" done.
I don't see it that way.

I have not seen any positive outcome of the MS Novell agreement
nor any hint of any to come.  Much posturing, but Balmer is still
claiming Linux violates MS IP loudly and often. More often than
before.


Microsoft always proclaims most loudly the lies that they're
trying to get everyone to believe..

the more MS proclaims it, the less credible it is...



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Re: [opensuse] NVIDIA drivers

2007-05-08 Thread Jan Tiggy
John Andersen wrote:

> By your definitions, any proprietary software designed
> to run on linux would be illegal to run on linux.

Yes it is, but not being run but being published.
AFAIK if you publish a proggy for KDE w/o paying Trolltech within it's
dual license and make it proprietary then it's illegal. If you pay them
then its OK. However I never heard about a dual license for kernel
itself, what IMO would be 'THE Solution' for linux.

I think the GPL3 should be a dual license per se. If you pay the hacker
you can publish proprietary if not then you are obliged to publish under
open source and for free.

It's just my .5$

Thx
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse list server problems

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 16:19]:
> Since today, on every post I make to opensuse@opensuse.org, I receive
> the message bellow. Is it just me, or a know problem?


You would probably have better luck addressing:
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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 16:16]:
 [...]
> I was thinking about this, but live distro will not use the
> proprietary nvidia drivers, which will not help me to investigate if
> this is a software or hardware problem, or both.

this is good as it would indicate that the nvidia drivers were causing
you a problem.

> Maybe I'll go first with downgrading xorg, then with replacing the
> hardware.

Just that the quick boot of a live- would give a quick indication.

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[opensuse] opensuse list server problems

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

Since today, on every post I make to opensuse@opensuse.org, I receive
the message bellow. Is it just me, or a know problem?



Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
to me

This is the Postfix program at host lists4.suse.de.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to 

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

  The Postfix program

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: mail forwarding loop for
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 5/8/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Stevens wrote:
> Whatever,
> with the big three at work, I would bet that it will happen and in such
> a way as for everyone involved (Suse, M$ and Dell) to make a buck
> or two.

This assumes that there will indeed be some "work" done.
I don't see it that way.

I have not seen any positive outcome of the MS Novell agreement
nor any hint of any to come.  Much posturing, but Balmer is still
claiming Linux violates MS IP loudly and often. More often than
before.

The only thing that can come out of this deal is a proprietary
product either for Microsoft or Novell.  No new GPL software
can emerge from this deal the way it is structured today.


IIRC, the new virtualization manager that Novell is doing under that
agreement will be GPL.

I see that as a big plus for the industry (even if it is not GPL).

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Re: [opensuse] NVIDIA drivers

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 15:55]:
 [...]
> If you can't call a kernel function/method, then how could you use the
> kernel at all? By your definitions, any proprietary software designed
> to run on linux would be illegal to run on linux. 

As I read his statement, I believe he says that 'running' is not the
problem, the problem is distribution and, perhaps, intention.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, Joachim Schrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, did you try to downgrade the xorg packages?

You can get the previous versions from the update archives, e.g., from
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/x86_64/update/10.0/rpm/x86_64/
You'll probably need to downgrade xorg-x11-libs and
xorg-x11-server. (I can't say it exactly, since I don't have a
x86_64 system -- but on my i586 system these were the recent xorg
updates.)

That should give you an opportunity to verify your hypothesis that
your problem is cause by the xorg update.

Joachim



Not yet, I'll try when I get home.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Sunny

On 5/8/07, Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Before swaping hardware, you might try a live-boot cd/dvd such as
Knoppix and see if you still get the freeze.  Might give you a better
basis to determine hardware vs software failure.

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Thanks Patrick,
I was thinking about this, but live distro will not use the
proprietary nvidia drivers, which will not help me to investigate if
this is a software or hardware problem, or both.

Maybe I'll go first with downgrading xorg, then with replacing the hardware.

As Matthias said, nvidia drivers may be picky on the hardware, and it
may be the problem. Or it may be the xorg changes, and the nvidia
drivers. Or it may be because of the xinerama setup I'm using, with
one DVI and one VGA monitor ... there are so many variables. I had
this setup before wroking, and it started to freeze recently, after
the xorg update. It may be coincidence with a bad card, of course.

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[opensuse] cron issue

2007-05-08 Thread Nick Jones

Hello everyone.

I've been having problems with cron running cron.daily jobs.  I can't
for the life of me figure it out and it is embarrassing and
frustrating.

First off cron doesn't log for shit.  Sendmail wasn't running so I
turned postfix on to see if mail shows up in root, it hasn't after 6
hours.  I can see cron starting up in /var/log/messages, but that is
it.  I simply want to place a script called backup under cron.daily.

So I run service cron restart, it checks /var/spool/tabs/ and
/etc/crontab.  The crontab is the default and should run cron.daily
scripts.  I've read that I need a file cron.daily under lastrun (which
is empty now) so it's timestamp can be used.  I've tried manually
creating this and it doesn't work.

Please HELP!  Where do I look to see what is going wrong.  I need
hints.  I *should* be able to reinstall cron, put a file under
cron.daily, and sit back and relax (ie. cron.daily jobs are run by
default on a fresh system with cron), but this doesn't work.  Cron
seems to be running (ie, sleeping, but not zombie or defunct).
According to timestamps it is not reading any files in the system
every 15 minutes and it should at least look in lastrun I believe.

Here's some debug info.  I restarted cron at 11:01 and it is a fresh
install (uninstalled through yast, then reinstalled)


dendrite:/var/spool # ls -lu /etc/cron.daily/
total 52
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  409 2007-05-07 16:10 backup
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2928 2007-05-03 15:55 beagle-crawl-system
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  393 2007-05-03 15:55 logrotate
-rwxr--r-- 1 root root  948 2007-05-03 15:55 suse-clean_catman

tail /var/log/cron | grep -i cron
May  8 11:01:35 dendrite /usr/sbin/cron[8398]: (CRON) STARTUP (V5.0)

dendrite:/var/spool # ls -lu /var/spool/cron/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2007-05-06 04:00 lastrun
drwx-- 2 root root 48 2007-05-08 11:01 tabs

dendrite:/var/spool # ls -lu /etc/crontab
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 274 2007-05-08 11:01 /etc/crontab

dendrite:/var/spool # cat /etc/crontab
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/lib/news/bin
MAILTO=root
#
# check scripts in cron.hourly, cron.daily, cron.weekly, and cron.monthly
#
-*/15 * * * *   root  test -x /usr/lib/cron/run-crons &&
/usr/lib/cron/run-crons > /dev/null 2>&1

dendrite:/var/spool # ls -lu /var/spool/cron/tabs/
total 0

dendrite:/var/spool # ps -Al | grep cron
1 S 0  8398 1  0  78   0 -   494 -  ?00:00:00 cron
dendrite:/var/spool # ps -Al | grep syslog
5 S 0  3023 1  0  75   0 -  1239 -  ?00:00:19 syslog-ng
5 S 0  3043 1  0  75   0 -   430 syslog ?00:00:14 klogd



dendrite:/var/spool # cat /etc/cron.daily/backup
#!/bin/sh

date >> /var/log/backup.log

mount -v /backup  >> /var/log/backup.log

rsync -au / /backup/ --exclude ppg --exclude fmri --exclude
/Network/people --exclude /backup --exclude /sys --exclude /proc
--exclude /var/tmp --exclude /backup --exclude
/home/bruss/external_mp3.dir --exclude /mnt >> /var/log/backup.log

umount /backup >> /var/log/backup.log

echo "backup complete"  >> /var/log/backup.log

dendrite:/var/spool #



Perhaps I should compile it from source, this is a yast binary.
Thanks alot for the help.

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Re: [opensuse] uninstall source

2007-05-08 Thread chika

> fuse is suplied in the distro ready to install in rpm form. Why compile
> it?

for update reason(coz there are some new features added), AFAIK there is
no problem to compile from source even the developers+community of ntfs-3g
developers suggest that way

you can google this keyword "Re: [ntfs-3g-devel] Bug report: folders with
non-ASCII letters aren't displayed"
from: "Udrescu Gabriel sau [EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

this is the message:
You should consider using the latest ntfs-3g rather than a precompiled rpm
pack. it's much better, because openSUSE developers can't keep up with
ntfs-3g (or other) developers. even if you prefer Yast or other
packmangager, compiling the fuse kernel-module & ntfs-3g is a much better
than installing a precompiled pack.
I've had a similar problem with PCLinuxOS repos & rpm packs.


> There are some (few) exceptions. And then, there are errors in those
> things you try to install or your options or who knows.
>
> Anyway, I have never tried checkinstall with the kernel or kernel modules.
don't worry abt that if u want get update for fuse or ntfs-3g u can visit
this http://software.opensuse.org/download/filesystems/openSUSE_10.2/i586/

btw i succeded to checkinstall the latest stable ntfs-3g-1.417
(so i can uninstall it easily if there are problem, but as far i know
there isn't major problem)


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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 (SuSE 10.2)

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Dennis J. Tuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 14:33]:
> I installed Thunderbird 2.0 over my previous version and got an e-mail
> application with a three-row tool bar that freezes every time it
> downloads e-mail messages.  Whenever I call it up and download e-mail it
> freezes up.  On exiting (aborting) I send off an error message.
> 
> I'd like to escape it, but I can't find the previous version at the
> T'bird web site.  Where can I find it?

Why do you look for openSUSE rpms on "T'bird web site"?

16:06 wahoo:~ > smart query --show-channels MozillaThunderbird
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mozilla]

16:06 wahoo:~ > smart channel --show mozilla
[mozilla]
type = rpm-md
name = mozilla
baseurl = http://repos.opensuse.org/mozilla/SUSE_Linux_10.1/



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Re: R: [opensuse] HW Problem ?

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Andrea Lanza wrote:
> I will try opensuse 10.2.
> Also disconnecting any keyboard, apart from changing keyboard, the problem
> is still there (also with unplagged keyboard)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrea

Ok, since you stated the machine is no where near you I can
safely ask this question without fear of insulting your intelligence.

Are you sure the people near the machine have the keyboard plugged
in the correct place?  

This sounds more an more like the mouse is in the keyboard plug and vise 
versa.

There is no way you should be getting keyboard interrupts
with the keyboard unplugged.

You might see such a thing with a totally FooBar acpi
setup, and could try booting with acpi off just to test
this.  (Or maybe it is off in the bios and needs to be turned on.)


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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-08-07 11:32]:
 [...]
> I'm running gkrelm, when it freezes, the temperature shown for the cpu
> and gpu are ok, same as when it works.
> 
> One other finding: If I log in runlevel 5, i.e. kde running, etc., but
> I switch to terminal console (ctrl-alt-F1) and leave the machine that
> way, it does not freeze. If I leave it in a graphical mode, it
> freezes.
> 
> So, now maybe Matthias suggestion starts to make sense a little bit.
> The problem is that all this started after the xorg upgrade a week or
> 2 ago. It does not exclude the videocard going south just at the same
> time. I'll look for a replacement card, just to see if this is going
> to solve the problem. At least that way we'll know if this is software
> or hardware problem.

Before swaping hardware, you might try a live-boot cd/dvd such as
Knoppix and see if you still get the freeze.  Might give you a better
basis to determine hardware vs software failure.

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Re: [opensuse] NVIDIA drivers

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Matthias Hopf wrote:
> This is exactly where the trouble starts. The driver uses kernel
> headers, for instance.

Headers are merely input-output specifications. Record definitions,
external interface specifications.  

Such things were never meant to be (and are not claimed to be) proprietary.  
How would you call a kernel function without specifications pray tell?

If you can't call a kernel function/method, then how could you use
the kernel at all? By your definitions, any proprietary software designed
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> > claiming Linux violates MS IP 

> Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.

If I need to cite that for you, you must have been stationed
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:43:41AM -0800, John Andersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Stevens wrote:
> > Whatever,
> > with the big three at work, I would bet that it will happen and in such
> > a way as for everyone involved (Suse, M$ and Dell) to make a buck
> > or two.
> 
> This assumes that there will indeed be some "work" done.
> I don't see it that way.
> 
> I have not seen any positive outcome of the MS Novell agreement
> nor any hint of any to come.

Several big customers, who have been using Linux "secretly" before,
now have admitted to using it.

> Much posturing, but Balmer is still
> claiming Linux violates MS IP loudly and often. More often than
> before.

Any cites for this statement? Its just FUD.
 
> The only thing that can come out of this deal is a proprietary
> product either for Microsoft or Novell.  No new GPL software
> can emerge from this deal the way it is structured today.

You mean like the OpenOffice org VBA support? Oops, not proprietary.

This deal is not about cooperation for a product, as should be very
clear already.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Suse, M$ and Dell

2007-05-08 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Stevens wrote:
> Whatever,
> with the big three at work, I would bet that it will happen and in such
> a way as for everyone involved (Suse, M$ and Dell) to make a buck
> or two.

This assumes that there will indeed be some "work" done.
I don't see it that way.

I have not seen any positive outcome of the MS Novell agreement
nor any hint of any to come.  Much posturing, but Balmer is still
claiming Linux violates MS IP loudly and often. More often than
before.

The only thing that can come out of this deal is a proprietary
product either for Microsoft or Novell.  No new GPL software
can emerge from this deal the way it is structured today.

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Smits
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 07:02, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> free to shut the f*** up
> >
> >  - Toujours la Politesse?
>
> It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
> utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
> to, and the person who made it.
>
> Do you have a problem with that?

Yes. Such language is better reserved for other 10 year olds who may think it 
impresses someone. It does, but not in the way you intend. 

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Aaron Kulkis:

Clayton wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>> free to shut the f*** up
>>
>>  - Toujours la Politesse?
>>
>
> It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
> utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
> to, and the person who made it.
>
> Do you have a problem with that?
>
>
>
It also unmistakably communicates the fact that you're an intolerant 
idiot!



Don't give this guy what he wants... just filter him out like pretty
much everyone is doing now.  He's a twit, and he keeps proving it...
over and over.



Thank you for demonstrating to one and all that just like the
original poster, you too have a big pile of hypocrisy and
left-wing prejudice...




Speaking as a communist (although not a Marxist - history isn't that 
simple), I'd like to see this discussion/slanging match taken to a more 
appropriate forum.  This is addressed to the left-, right- and 
centre-wingers, BTW, intolerant ones or not.


Did I cover everybody?


Peter

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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Alexandru Matei

Hello,

Ok, from what I understand, I'll never see the entire 4GB unless I
install a 64-bit OS. But I would still like to be able to run openSuse
10.2. :) Does anyone know why the issue below happens?

Thank you very much,
Alex

On 5/8/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've recently upgraded my RAM to 4GB and since then, when the X server
> starts, the computer slows down a lot - what I mean by slows down is
> that:
>
> - although there is some occasional hard disk activity, I never see
> the KDE Desktop, I only get the mouse pointer and that's it
> - if I start a console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, it takes about a minute to
> see the command prompt from the moment I type my (correct) password
> - if after logging in I use the Midnight Commander, it's response is
> very slow and slurgish and navigation through folders is very slow
>
> When I still had 2GB everything was ok. I'm using openSUSE 10.2 on a
> Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 Ghz, 4 MB L2 Cache, FSB 1066 Mhz / Intel DP965LT
> motherboard / 4 x 1 GB Corsair DDR2 675 Mhz, 4-4-4-12 / ATI Radeon
> EAX1300 256MB / WDC S-ATA II 250 GB HDD.
>
> Booting the XEN kernel (second option in the bootloader) works (but no
> ATI video driver is taken into consideration, it defaults to VESA
> mode), but using the default one causes the above problem.
>
> Could you please be as kind so as to give me a suggestion to fix this
> issue? It's really frustrating, as Windows XP and Vista work ok (but
> they don't see the entire 4GB, only 3.25 GB), but I would rather use
> Linux instead (and hopefully have all 4GB available).
>

The Kernel always takes up a certain amount of space, and thus
you will never have *ALL* of the memory listed as "available" --
otherwise, the kernel could be overwritten with user programs
and/or datawhich would definitely be a BAD THING.

As to why you're seeing this with 4GB of mem, but not 2 GB...
perhaps because you also have swap space... and the kernel
is trying to figure out how to manage 4GB + (swap partition)
worth of virtual memory all WITHIN a 32-bit address space..


> Thank you very much,
> Alex



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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

James Knott wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

free to shut the f*** up


 - Toujours la Politesse?



It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
to, and the person who made it.

Do you have a problem with that?




It also unmistakably communicates the fact that you're an intolerant idiot!




Ah, yes, the usual "everyone must be tolerant of us marxists, but
we don't need to be tolerant of anyone else" hypocrisy.



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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Clayton wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>> free to shut the f*** up
>>
>>  - Toujours la Politesse?
>>
>
> It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
> utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
> to, and the person who made it.
>
> Do you have a problem with that?
>
>
>
It also unmistakably communicates the fact that you're an intolerant 
idiot!



Don't give this guy what he wants... just filter him out like pretty
much everyone is doing now.  He's a twit, and he keeps proving it...
over and over.



Thank you for demonstrating to one and all that just like the
original poster, you too have a big pile of hypocrisy and
left-wing prejudice...




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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Alexandru Matei wrote:

Hello,

I've recently upgraded my RAM to 4GB and since then, when the X server
starts, the computer slows down a lot - what I mean by slows down is
that:

- although there is some occasional hard disk activity, I never see
the KDE Desktop, I only get the mouse pointer and that's it
- if I start a console with Ctrl+Alt+F1, it takes about a minute to
see the command prompt from the moment I type my (correct) password
- if after logging in I use the Midnight Commander, it's response is
very slow and slurgish and navigation through folders is very slow

When I still had 2GB everything was ok. I'm using openSUSE 10.2 on a
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 Ghz, 4 MB L2 Cache, FSB 1066 Mhz / Intel DP965LT
motherboard / 4 x 1 GB Corsair DDR2 675 Mhz, 4-4-4-12 / ATI Radeon
EAX1300 256MB / WDC S-ATA II 250 GB HDD.

Booting the XEN kernel (second option in the bootloader) works (but no
ATI video driver is taken into consideration, it defaults to VESA
mode), but using the default one causes the above problem.

Could you please be as kind so as to give me a suggestion to fix this
issue? It's really frustrating, as Windows XP and Vista work ok (but
they don't see the entire 4GB, only 3.25 GB), but I would rather use
Linux instead (and hopefully have all 4GB available).



The Kernel always takes up a certain amount of space, and thus
you will never have *ALL* of the memory listed as "available" --
otherwise, the kernel could be overwritten with user programs
and/or datawhich would definitely be a BAD THING.

As to why you're seeing this with 4GB of mem, but not 2 GB...
perhaps because you also have swap space... and the kernel
is trying to figure out how to manage 4GB + (swap partition)
worth of virtual memory all WITHIN a 32-bit address space..



Thank you very much,
Alex




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[opensuse] Re: 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Joachim Schrod

Sunny wrote:

On 5/7/07, M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Monday 07 May 2007 21:25, Sunny wrote:
> After the latest xorg updates my 10.0 x86_64 machine started to freeze
> after an hour or so work. I have tested the memory and other
> components, and everything looks OK. If I leave the machine in
> runlevel 3, it does not freeze.
Does the machine lock? --tight loop --?

When it "freezes" can you ctl-alt-F1 and get to a console?

When if freezes can you ping it?  can you ssh to it?

I can hardly believe that this is an xorg problem... no way. 
You have a

memory or HD issue there... I suspect.



Hardlock - no console, no net, no ssh, nothing. Completely dead.
Memory tested for 24 hours with memtest - OK. HDDs tested with their
manufacturers diagnostic tools (full test) - OK.

After the problems started, I updated the nvidia driver, no change.


So, did you try to downgrade the xorg packages?

You can get the previous versions from the update archives, e.g., from
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/x86_64/update/10.0/rpm/x86_64/
You'll probably need to downgrade xorg-x11-libs and 
xorg-x11-server. (I can't say it exactly, since I don't have a 
x86_64 system -- but on my i586 system these were the recent xorg 
updates.)


That should give you an opportunity to verify your hypothesis that 
your problem is cause by the xorg update.


Joachim

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[opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 (SuSE 10.2)

2007-05-08 Thread Dennis J. Tuchler

I installed Thunderbird 2.0 over my previous version and got an e-mail
application with a three-row tool bar that freezes every time it
downloads e-mail messages.  Whenever I call it up and download e-mail it
freezes up.  On exiting (aborting) I send off an error message.

I'd like to escape it, but I can't find the previous version at the
T'bird web site.  Where can I find it?

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Re: [opensuse] problems after upgrade to 10.2

2007-05-08 Thread Seth Arnold
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:55:54PM +1000, George Osvald wrote:
> Recently I upgraded my computers to Suse 10.2. Two of them were no
> problem but the third one gives me a headache.

Hello George; note that you should probably not use 'reply' when you
wish to start a new thread on the mail list -- your mail looks like a
reply to an unrelated thread:

  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-05/threads3.html

> Since the upgrade it would not print into my HP Officejet. It still
> prints into Dymo labelwriter because I have it set up as raw printer.
> I get this error message from my CUPS server:
> "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
> I tried all sorts of things without a success. This printer was
> printing fine with a previous version and I also have two other (with
> SuSe 10.2) computers printing into HP printers no problems.
> Also I am having problems with syslog-ng which will not start,
> postfix, klogd, earlysyslog, mdnsd, ntp, nscd. Aparmor doesn't work
> properly as well but I do not wary about that at this stage. Most
> services fail due to segmentation fault or of course dependancy problems.

Chances are very good that your AppArmor profiles are all out of date.
In August 2006 we modified the AppArmor profile language to address
failings; the full details are here:

  http://marc.info/?l=apparmor-general&m=115477304809811&w=4

The summary of the changes is that you now need 'm' privileges in
profiles to specify that an executable or library may be mapped with
executable privileges.

And it is my guess that all those 'rpmnew' profiles that are being
skipped in the log below were ones that we modified to also include 'm'
rules everywhere.

The symptom of failure to map a library with execute permission is
usually a segmentation fault.

I would suggest either inspecting the .rpmnew profiles to see what new
privileges to add to your profiles, or placing all your applications
back into learning mode and using the logprof utility to update the
profiles over time.

Check to see if you have an /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/base.rpmnew. If
so, you will fix many problems most quickly by making the same changes we
did -- you can either copy this file over your existing abstractions/base
or you can make the changes by hand, whatever works best for you.

> Loading AppArmor profiles Skipping profile
> /etc/apparmor.d/bin.netstat.rpmnew
> Skipping profile /etc/apparmor.d/sbin.klogd.rpmnew
...
> /sbin/klogd: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: failed
> to map segment from shared object: Operation not permitted

If you check the differences between your existing
/etc/apparmor.d/sbin.klogd file and the new
/etc/apparmor.d/sbin.klogd.rpmnew file, I think you will see that some
'm' bits are missing. The libc.so.6 failure comes from abstractions/base
though..

Sadly, there is no good way to find _only_ the changes we made and
apply them to your already-existing profiles. :( Some day. But for now,
the best we can suggest is to hand-inspect your .rpmnew files and add
whatever looks important to your existing profiles, or copy the .rpmnew
files over your profiles and re-generate whatever local modifications
you needed. Whichever seems easier..

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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 07:27, Sunny wrote:
> Hardlock - no console, no net, no ssh, nothing. Completely dead.
> Memory tested for 24 hours with memtest - OK. HDDs tested with their
> manufacturers diagnostic tools (full test) - OK.
>
> After the problems started, I updated the nvidia driver, no change.
>
> And ... it happens only in init 5, it does not happen in init 3. And I
> made it to reencode a couple of movies in init 3, so i have something
> to keep it busy.
I have a couple of ideas for you, and some comment...

... first, almost all intermittent problems are hardware--- like 99.9% 
of 
them. At this point I would be suspecting the video card--- memory or chip. 
The nvidia geforce chips are famous for crapping out... because they are 
usually surface mounted, and when they get hot they break free from their 
mounting. (one possibility)   The other possibility is that there is a memory 
problem on the card... can cause the same kinds of flaky lock-ups that memory 
problems cause on the bus.  Bottom line, try another card. 

The other thing you might want to look at is your xorg.conf file. I 
have been 
experimenting with my ATI setup and have been able to force my system to 
"lock" (and I do mean locked... kernel is dead not even a panic), by changing 
some of the settings (mouse, monitor, device) in xorg.conf.  This is a 
disturbing revelation for me... because in the unix environment *nothing* 
should be able to bring the system down --- especially X... thats sounding 
like Windoze.   In other words, there may be problems with X and the server 
may not be stable, or may not start, or my lock... but the system should 
*never* go down because of it...   so some serious breaches are occurring 
somewhere (something is rotten in Denmark!). Obviously the the xserver code 
is too closely linked to the hardware/kernel lately. 

Unrelated to your problem... at the moment my ATI machine has two(2) 
copies 
of X running ...  only after updating xorg and installing the ATI fglrx 
driver for 3D support??   Well, it may be normal... but I can't prove it.  It 
probably is a problem... but I'm not finding much to help me figure it out.  
Isn't X fun these days?


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RE: [opensuse] pci-express raid card or pci

2007-05-08 Thread Jack Malone


> 
> > I have never done that before, not even sure where to begin at this
> point.
> > How would go about this an using the new kernel at installation time.
> 
> Yea, there's a catch :( You'd need to build a driver update disk and
> I'm not
> sure if that's documented somewhere ...
> 
> BTW, I do read the list so I don't need nor want an extra copy as
> private
> mail.
> 
>
Thanks for replying back Philipp. I forgot to delete your email address from
the message before I sent it out sorry about that.  For now I'm going to use
an older 3ware card ( 95008mi) in this machine so that I can get it up an
going. I'm planning to build a new server again in near future an will use
the 9650 card in that machine then after you get the new 10.3 out in
production. Thanks for trying to help me, I just need to get this machine
back up and in use an the new / older 95008mi card should help me in that
for now. I have wasted enough time on this issue at this time an finally
convinced my boss that I need to go with another card for now. 

Now after this is done he wants me to look into clustering software for two
different machines here with linux. I will save that for another message
later to the list. 


Jack 

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Re: [opensuse] Could not connect my camera via USB

2007-05-08 Thread Michal Hlavac
Dňa Ut 8. Máj 2007 Marcus Meissner napísal:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:40:07PM +0200, Michal Hlavac wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > I have opensuse 10.2 with latest updates. After last kernel update I
> > cannot connect my camera Canon PowerShot G2. There was no problem before.
> >
> > dmesg says this:
> > usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
> > usb 3-1: new device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3055
> > usb 3-1: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> > usb 3-1: Product: PowerShot G2
> > usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
> > usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> > usb 3-1: usbfs: usb_submit_urb returned -22
>
> What does:
>   gphoto2 --auto-detect
> report? -22 is "EINVAL".

hlavki:/media # gphoto2 --auto-detect
Model  Port
--
Canon PowerShot G2 usb:
Canon PowerShot G2 usb:003,005

m.


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Re: [opensuse] 4GB computer slowdown

2007-05-08 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 08, 07 19:09:11 +0300, Alexandru Matei wrote:
> Could you please be as kind so as to give me a suggestion to fix this
> issue? It's really frustrating, as Windows XP and Vista work ok (but
> they don't see the entire 4GB, only 3.25 GB), but I would rather use
> Linux instead (and hopefully have all 4GB available).

You won't see more than 3.5 (or 3) GB available in Linux, unless you use
the 64bit version. That is inevitable.

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] 10.0 freezes after the latest xorg updates

2007-05-08 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 08, 07 10:31:44 -0500, Sunny wrote:
> So, now maybe Matthias suggestion starts to make sense a little bit.
> The problem is that all this started after the xorg upgrade a week or
> 2 ago. It does not exclude the videocard going south just at the same
> time. I'll look for a replacement card, just to see if this is going
> to solve the problem. At least that way we'll know if this is software
> or hardware problem.

If you have the chance to do so, yes, please!

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] NVIDIA drivers

2007-05-08 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 08, 07 09:23:50 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > LGPL. That's *the* main difference from GPL. You're allowed to link
> > proprietary software against LGPL, but not against GPL.
> >   
> If that is the actual intent of the GPL, then IMO it constitutes an

Yes.

> unfair trade practice. What do you make of Linus Torvalds's own addition

No.

> above the GPL (it's in the /usr/src/linux/COPYING file that you guys
> distribute with the kernel):
> 
>"NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user programs that use kernel
>  services by normal system calls - this is merely considered normal use
>  of the kernel, and does *not* fall under the heading of "derived work"."

Yes, and the kernel driver by definition is linked in kernel space.
We are *not* talking about user programs here.

> So no kernel code is actually compiled into the nVidia drivers, correct?

This is exactly where the trouble starts. The driver uses kernel
headers, for instance. Also, compilation is irrelevant, it's linking.
And loading a driver (even during runtime) means linking.

> Those drivers merely refer to kernel values so they can be hooked into
> it at run-time, correct? That seems to constitute "fair use" under
> anyone's laws, and it certainly does under Torvalds's own published
> exception, and any attempt to unduly limit fair use is an unfair trade
> practice.

Again: Please read it: Many kernel developer consider this breaking the
GPL. They are the ones who have written the code, so they are more
qualified of talking about it than you and me are.

> > Some kernel developers say it's trivial to demonstrate that.
> > Few say it's not.
> > Some don't care.
> On the basis of what I have seen so far, you would have an easier time
> convincing me that the Eurofighter is a derivative of the Sopwith Camel
> because they both have wings.

*Sigh*
The point is: I don't *have* to convince you.

*I* consider loading proprietary drivers is fair use. But that is not
the point, there are many kernel developers who don't. That is the
point.

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] Could not connect my camera via USB

2007-05-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:40:07PM +0200, Michal Hlavac wrote:
> hello,
> 
> I have opensuse 10.2 with latest updates. After last kernel update I cannot 
> connect my camera Canon PowerShot G2. There was no problem before.
> 
> dmesg says this:
> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
> usb 3-1: new device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3055
> usb 3-1: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 3-1: Product: PowerShot G2
> usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
> usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> usb 3-1: usbfs: usb_submit_urb returned -22

What does:
gphoto2 --auto-detect
report? -22 is "EINVAL".

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Mike McMullin
  Can we continue this over in off topic?  I say we because I've posted
on this as well.

  Mike

On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:42 +0200, Clayton wrote:
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > >>> free to shut the f*** up
> > >>
> > >>  - Toujours la Politesse?
> > >>
> > >
> > > It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
> > > utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
> > > to, and the person who made it.
> > >
> > > Do you have a problem with that?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > It also unmistakably communicates the fact that you're an intolerant idiot!
> 
> 
> Don't give this guy what he wants... just filter him out like pretty
> much everyone is doing now.  He's a twit, and he keeps proving it...
> over and over.
> 
> 
> C.

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

2007-05-08 Thread Clayton

Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue 08 May 2007 03:54, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>>> free to shut the f*** up
>>
>>  - Toujours la Politesse?
>>
>
> It's a way of communicating UNMISTAKABLY complete and
> utter contempt for the statement which I was responding
> to, and the person who made it.
>
> Do you have a problem with that?
>
>
>
It also unmistakably communicates the fact that you're an intolerant idiot!



Don't give this guy what he wants... just filter him out like pretty
much everyone is doing now.  He's a twit, and he keeps proving it...
over and over.


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Re: [opensuse] Q: Compiz/Xinerama

2007-05-08 Thread JP Rosevear
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 08:22 +0100, Pete Connolly wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 May 2007 08:14:07 Magnus Boman wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've got two monitors connected to my NVidia card, one is connected via
> > VGA and the other one is connected via DVI, and it's setup with
> > Xinerama.
> > Xgl/Compiz runs just fine with this setup, but there's one thing that
> > annoys me and that is the cube... It's currently one big cube covering
> > both monitors.
> >
> > My questions is; Is it possible to get two independent cubes, one per
> > monitor, and if so, how?
> >
> > Compiz version is 0.4.0.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Magnus
> 
> Hi Magnus
> 
> I think this is possible if you are using Beryl, but I haven't seen a way to 
> do this with 'pure' compiz.  Under Beryl-manager->Desktop->Desktop 
> Cube->Options->Multimonitor mode->One big cube/Multiple cubes.

>From the compiz maintainer:

It's not really possible to get multiple independent cubes in either
compiz or beryl at the moment. The input transformation support that
will be added to compiz soon will allow this but without that it's
impossible.

The beryl option that is called multiple-cubes is the behavior of
compiz, which is a different cube face for each monitor but they are not
independent (you can't rotate one without rotating all other ones).

The "one big cube" option in beryl is just a small hack for those who
prefer it to look like one big cube instead of mapping each monitor to a
separate cube face. It doesn't change any functionality, it just makes
it look like compiz in not multi-head aware.

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[opensuse] Could not connect my camera via USB

2007-05-08 Thread Michal Hlavac
hello,

I have opensuse 10.2 with latest updates. After last kernel update I cannot 
connect my camera Canon PowerShot G2. There was no problem before.

dmesg says this:
usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
usb 3-1: new device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3055
usb 3-1: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 3-1: Product: PowerShot G2
usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 3-1: usbfs: usb_submit_urb returned -22


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