Re: [opensuse] FYI: AMD Seems the way to go..

[Ben Kevan]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 09:53:59 pm Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> AMD Backs openSUSE with Huge New Infrastructure
> from the money-where-mouth-is dept.
> posted by CowboyNeal on Thursday August 09, @23:09 (AMD)
> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/10/0044231

As most will say, I will not jump the bandwagon until they have some decent 
Graphic Drivers.. 

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[opensuse] FYI: AMD Seems the way to go..

[Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)]

AMD Backs openSUSE with Huge New Infrastructure
from the money-where-mouth-is dept.
posted by CowboyNeal on Thursday August 09, @23:09 (AMD)
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/10/0044231
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Re: [opensuse] Not boot in my dell XPS m1210 ####Re: [opensuse-announce] Beta1 Live CDs

[Casey Stamper]

Michel Salim wrote:

On 13/08/07, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Hello List,

Live CD no boot in my notebook Dell. The CD not problem i verifiy it.
Any suggestions ?



Is your computer configured to boot from CD?  Older computers can't.
Newer ones can be configured in the BIOS to do so.


XPS m1210 is an almost-new Dell laptop, as far as I recall. Gabriel
probably needs to press the key (can't remember which) to select boot
target, and select to boot from the CD/DVD drive rather than hard
drive.

Regards,

Mine uses the F12 key (Dell Inspiron 5160) and while the new ones *may* 
be different, I don't really know why they would change that behavior.


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Re: [opensuse] Not boot in my dell XPS m1210 ####Re: [opensuse-announce] Beta1 Live CDs

[Michel Salim]

On 13/08/07, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello List,
> >
> > Live CD no boot in my notebook Dell. The CD not problem i verifiy it.
> > Any suggestions ?
> >
> >
> Is your computer configured to boot from CD?  Older computers can't.
> Newer ones can be configured in the BIOS to do so.
>
XPS m1210 is an almost-new Dell laptop, as far as I recall. Gabriel
probably needs to press the key (can't remember which) to select boot
target, and select to boot from the CD/DVD drive rather than hard
drive.

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Re: [opensuse] Starting KDE4

[Michel Salim]

On 13/08/07, Stephen P. Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just used YAST2 to install KDE4.
>
> According to en.opensuse.org/KDE4 'The KDE4 package install into the
> /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be installed at the same
> time.'  After the installation process  was finished there were no
> /usr prefix subdirectories.  The only KDE4 specific s/d's I can find
> are /usr/lib/kde4 and /usr/share/kde4.  Although perhaps I have missed some.
>
Does it mean that while GNOME is moving to /usr for 10.3, KDE won't
move to /usr until KDE4 becomes the default?

ps for KDE4, substitute /opt/kde for /usr, so /opt/kde/bin ->
/usr/bin, etc. There won't be many directories with 'kde' in their
names.

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Michel Salim]

On 13/08/07, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Philipp Thomas wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:53 -0700, joe wrote:
> >
> >> You're much more likely to have success resolving any driver issues
> >> on the 32-bit install.
> >
> > That's just not true! The only case where a 64 bit Linux can be a
> > problem is when you need to use a binary only driver and the
> > manufacturer doesn't supply it. My experience shows that open source
> > drivers are mostly just as bad or good on a 32 bit Linux as they are
> > on a 64 bit one.
>
> Hence my statement about "3rd party drivers or programs", which you snipped.
>
> I did say that linux64 is great for generic server roles on largish hardware,
> where you can do everything using what ships from the linux vendor, and where
> the hardware is big enough to benefit from the 64-bit OS.
>
> > So if a driver doesn't work under 64 bit Linux chances are very low
> > it'll suddenly start to work as a 32 bit version.
>
> Many vendors make only a 32-bit version of their linux offerings, or if they
> do make a 64-bit version, it's not well tested, and buggy. I speak from bitter
> experiences in the trenches, and can cite examples.
>
At least RPM supports multilib, meaning you can happily run 32- and
64-bit applications side-by-side.

The binary driver situation is all the more reason to support vendors
that have more enlightened driver policies. Or, failing that, those
that can provide reliable 64-bit drivers (grudging lift of the hat to
nVidia on this).

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Re: [opensuse] Starting KDE4

[Rajko M.]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 03:13:48 pm Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I just used YAST2 to install KDE4.
>
> According to en.opensuse.org/KDE4 'The KDE4 package install into the
> /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be installed at the same
> time.'  After the installation process  was finished there were no
> /usr prefix subdirectories.  The only KDE4 specific s/d's I can find
> are /usr/lib/kde4 and /usr/share/kde4.  Although perhaps I have missed
> some.
>
> My question is how do I start KDE4?  Happily, startx at the command
> prompt still starts KDE3.5 so I haven't hosed my desktop.
>
> Any assistance will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Logout of the KDE3 session and on a login screen select Session and KDE4.

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[joe]

Philipp Thomas wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:53 -0700, joe wrote:
> 
>> You're much more likely to have success resolving any driver issues
>> on the 32-bit install.
> 
> That's just not true! The only case where a 64 bit Linux can be a
> problem is when you need to use a binary only driver and the
> manufacturer doesn't supply it. My experience shows that open source
> drivers are mostly just as bad or good on a 32 bit Linux as they are
> on a 64 bit one.

Hence my statement about "3rd party drivers or programs", which you snipped.

I did say that linux64 is great for generic server roles on largish hardware,
where you can do everything using what ships from the linux vendor, and where
the hardware is big enough to benefit from the 64-bit OS.

> So if a driver doesn't work under 64 bit Linux chances are very low
> it'll suddenly start to work as a 32 bit version.

Many vendors make only a 32-bit version of their linux offerings, or if they
do make a 64-bit version, it's not well tested, and buggy. I speak from bitter
experiences in the trenches, and can cite examples.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[kbboykin]

 -- Original message --
From: Philipp Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:53 -0700, joe wrote:
> 
> >You're much more likely to have success resolving any driver issues
> > on the 32-bit install.
> 
> That's just not true! The only case where a 64 bit Linux can be a
> problem is when you need to use a binary only driver and the
> manufacturer doesn't supply it. My experience shows that open source
> drivers are mostly just as bad or good on a 32 bit Linux as they are
> on a 64 bit one.
> 
> So if a driver doesn't work under 64 bit Linux chances are very low
> it'll suddenly start to work as a 32 bit version.
> 
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Thanks to all who responded so far.  I really want to try 64 bit again in the 
future.  I dont know enough about it to tell the difference right now. I don't 
run a lot of media apps or high graphics apps. 

BTW, i "re-installed - ran make, make install for the RT61-  one more time and 
it came back. Something was suddenly interfering with it. I am now responding o 
this email under 10.2 using the ralink card so Phillip appears to be right.

I am just no sure if down the road, I will encounter issues.  I know everyone 
has an opinion, so let's not go there. I just think I want to go back to 32 
bit, as most of my experience has been with it.  I am not a techie by training, 
I am a physician,  so I'm not as savvy as most.

Again, thanks to all.

--Keith

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Philipp Thomas]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:43:53 -0700, joe wrote:

>You're much more likely to have success resolving any driver issues
> on the 32-bit install.

That's just not true! The only case where a 64 bit Linux can be a
problem is when you need to use a binary only driver and the
manufacturer doesn't supply it. My experience shows that open source
drivers are mostly just as bad or good on a 32 bit Linux as they are
on a 64 bit one.

So if a driver doesn't work under 64 bit Linux chances are very low
it'll suddenly start to work as a 32 bit version.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] Root password for the OpenSuSE LiveCD 10.3 ?

[steve]

Eduardo J. Vega A wrote:

Hello guys any idea of which it's the root password for the OpenSuSE LiveCD
10.3 ?

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 Beta1 +Compiz-fusion

[Ben Kevan]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 09:03:28 am CyberOrg wrote:
> On 8/12/07, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > sudo nvidia-xconfig –composite –allow-glx-with-composite –render-accel –
> > add-argb-glx-visuals
> >
> > It comes back with invalid option -composite. Guess it is because of not
> > having the susefied nvidia drivers for 10.3. Maybe in the near future.
>
> That should be with double dashes
>
> nvidia-xconfig --composite --allow-glx-with-composite --render-accel
> --add-argb-glx-visuals
>
> Ciao
>
> -J

Yeah, I believe wordpress always shows it as a long single.. Sorry about 
that.. 

They are indeed -- .. if you do man nvidia-xconfig you can see what each one 
does.. and also verify it takes 2 --'s

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[opensuse] Root password for the OpenSuSE LiveCD 10.3 ?

[Eduardo J. Vega A]

Hello guys any idea of which it's the root password for the OpenSuSE LiveCD
10.3 ?

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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[kbboykin]

Thanks,  since I don't have much to loose, I agree, go back to clean install of 
32 bit.  I know I can use atheros card without problem.  I already have a box 
with a card based on it.  I choose the ralink for reported 64 bit usage.

Thanks,

--Keith
 -- Original message --
From: joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 64-bit installs are great for generic server roles, on largish hardware. For
> desktop use, or any situation where you need to worry about 3rd party software
> or drivers, linux/32 is the way to go, based on my education in the school of
> hard knocks.
> 
> There's no easy way to convert a 64-bit install to 32-bit. Just save off the
> important stuff somewhere, and do a clean install. You're much more likely to
> have success resolving any driver issues on the 32-bit install.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > The title kinda sez it all.  I installed openSuSE 64 bit on a "homebrew"
> > with a 3.2 GHz P4  ECS P4M800PRO-M MB with 2 GB of ram, 80 G SATA drive.
> > It was installed as dualboot witth Vista Home premium.  I have used SuSE
> > since 6.4 off and on and used it heavily from 7.1 to 9.3.  Then work forced
> > me back to learn WinXP Pro and now Vista. I have installed 10.0, 10.2 on
> > other machines prior to installing 10.2 default on this box.  Originally I
> > was using the on-board Realtek NIC, wired.  I rarely used 10.2 and it
> > sailed along effortless. I moved to a new residence and had to go wireless.
> > My researched suggested RaLink RT2561 as compatible with both Linux and
> > Vista, so I bought a card based on that chipset.  Vista worked right away.
> > It took some time to get it working under Linux. Then on Friday, I decided
> > to try Linspire 2.0 LiveCD which failed on this box.  Every since then the
> > RaLink wireless PCI appears removed to the Linux network under 10.2.  If I
> > run lspci -v  the card is there, so it is seen by the kernel.  I decided to
> > go with driverloader and it helps but no cigar.
> > 
> > A long story to ask this simple question.   I want to go back to 32 bit.
> > How?  Wipe it clean and start from scratch, realizing I still will have the
> > Ralink PCI card  (RT61), and can the 64bit be downgraded to 32 bit?  Much
> > help appreciated.  If this has already been answered in a thread somewhere,
> > please forgive me.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > --Keith
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Re: [opensuse] Re: 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[kbboykin]

 -- Original message --
From: "Cristian Rodriguez R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> 
> > A long story to ask this simple question.   I want to go back to 32 bit.  
> > How?  
> 
> Why you think that doing the non-sense of switching back to 32 bit will
> fix your problem ?
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Nowhere did I state I thought it would solve my problem. I am going back to 32 
bit for a better chance at future drivers. 

The question was how and could I go back from my present install.  I have had 
better luck with32 bit SuSE in the past.

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[opensuse] Re: 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[Cristian Rodriguez R.]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

> A long story to ask this simple question.   I want to go back to 32 bit.  
> How?  

Why you think that doing the non-sense of switching back to 32 bit will
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Re: [opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[joe]

64-bit installs are great for generic server roles, on largish hardware. For
desktop use, or any situation where you need to worry about 3rd party software
or drivers, linux/32 is the way to go, based on my education in the school of
hard knocks.

There's no easy way to convert a 64-bit install to 32-bit. Just save off the
important stuff somewhere, and do a clean install. You're much more likely to
have success resolving any driver issues on the 32-bit install.

Joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> The title kinda sez it all.  I installed openSuSE 64 bit on a "homebrew"
> with a 3.2 GHz P4  ECS P4M800PRO-M MB with 2 GB of ram, 80 G SATA drive.
> It was installed as dualboot witth Vista Home premium.  I have used SuSE
> since 6.4 off and on and used it heavily from 7.1 to 9.3.  Then work forced
> me back to learn WinXP Pro and now Vista. I have installed 10.0, 10.2 on
> other machines prior to installing 10.2 default on this box.  Originally I
> was using the on-board Realtek NIC, wired.  I rarely used 10.2 and it
> sailed along effortless. I moved to a new residence and had to go wireless.
> My researched suggested RaLink RT2561 as compatible with both Linux and
> Vista, so I bought a card based on that chipset.  Vista worked right away.
> It took some time to get it working under Linux. Then on Friday, I decided
> to try Linspire 2.0 LiveCD which failed on this box.  Every since then the
> RaLink wireless PCI appears removed to the Linux network under 10.2.  If I
> run lspci -v  the card is there, so it is seen by the kernel.  I decided to
> go with driverloader and it helps but no cigar.
> 
> A long story to ask this simple question.   I want to go back to 32 bit.
> How?  Wipe it clean and start from scratch, realizing I still will have the
> Ralink PCI card  (RT61), and can the 64bit be downgraded to 32 bit?  Much
> help appreciated.  If this has already been answered in a thread somewhere,
> please forgive me.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> --Keith
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[opensuse] 64bit gone sour, downgrade to 32bit, how?

[kbboykin]

Hello All,

The title kinda sez it all.  I installed openSuSE 64 bit on a "homebrew"  with 
a 3.2 GHz P4  ECS P4M800PRO-M MB with 2 GB of ram, 80 G SATA drive.  It was 
installed as dualboot witth Vista Home premium.  I have used SuSE since 6.4 off 
and on and used it heavily from 7.1 to 9.3.  Then work forced me back to learn 
WinXP Pro and now Vista. I have installed 10.0, 10.2 on other machines prior to 
installing 10.2 default on this box.  Originally I was using the on-board 
Realtek NIC, wired.  I rarely used 10.2 and it sailed along effortless. I moved 
to a new residence and had to go wireless. My researched suggested RaLink 
RT2561 as compatible with both Linux and Vista, so I bought a card based on 
that chipset.  Vista worked right away.  It took some time to get it working 
under Linux. Then on Friday, I decided to try Linspire 2.0 LiveCD which failed 
on this box.  Every since then the RaLink wireless PCI appears removed to the 
Linux network under 10.2.  If I run lspci -v  the card is 
 there,
 so it is seen by the kernel.  I decided to go with driverloader and it helps 
but no cigar.

A long story to ask this simple question.   I want to go back to 32 bit.  How?  
Wipe it clean and start from scratch, realizing I still will have the Ralink 
PCI card  (RT61), and can the 64bit be downgraded to 32 bit?  Much help 
appreciated.  If this has already been answered in a thread somewhere, please 
forgive me.

Thanks in advance, 

--Keith
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 Beta1 +Compiz-fusion

[Art Fore]

On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 21:33 +0530, CyberOrg wrote:
> On 8/12/07, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > sudo nvidia-xconfig –composite –allow-glx-with-composite –render-accel –
> > add-argb-glx-visuals
> >
> > It comes back with invalid option -composite. Guess it is because of not
> > having the susefied nvidia drivers for 10.3. Maybe in the near future.
> >
> 
> That should be with double dashes
> 
> nvidia-xconfig --composite --allow-glx-with-composite --render-accel
> --add-argb-glx-visuals
> 
> Ciao
> 
> -J
Tried that also, same thing.

Art

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[opensuse] Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter and NetworkManager

[Sam Preston]

Hi all,

I just purchased a Toshiba Satellite laptop (A215-S4807), and am
dual-booting Vista and OpenSUSE 10.2.  The laptop has an Atheros
AR5007EG wireless NIC.  After searching around, I tried installing the
ndiswrapper module and the windows drivers, and 'ndiswrapper -l'
states that everything is okay.  Unfortunately, I haven't been able to
get the connection to work.  I'm new to setting up a wireless
connetion in linux, so I'm not sure if the driver isn't working
correctly, or if I'm just not setting up the connection correctly.
'iwconfig' shows wlan0, so I try:

>iwconfig wlan0 essid "my_network_name"

after which 'iwconfig wlan0' shows signal strength, etc.  I then try:

>ifconfig wlan0 up
>ifup wlan0

I get a warning that NetworkManager is being notified to set up the
DHCP connection, but I don't seem to actually connect -- I can open up
a browser and I just get a 'page not found' error.  What should I be
doing to test this connection?  Also, the NetworkManager icon in the
system tray still says that there is a connection to eth0, not wlan0.

Thanks for any help,

-Sam

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Re: [opensuse] Not boot in my dell XPS m1210 ####Re: [opensuse-announce] Beta1 Live CDs

[James Knott]

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> Hello List,
>
> Live CD no boot in my notebook Dell. The CD not problem i verifiy it.
> Any suggestions ?
>
>   
Is your computer configured to boot from CD?  Older computers can't. 
Newer ones can be configured in the BIOS to do so.




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[opensuse] Not boot in my dell XPS m1210 ####Re: [opensuse-announce] Beta1 Live CDs

[gabriel . schwartz]

Hello List,

Live CD no boot in my notebook Dell. The CD not problem i verifiy it.
Any suggestions ?

thanks a lot.

On 8/12/07, Stephan Kulow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I created and uploaded live CDs of the 1-CD installations to your pleasure:
>
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Beta1/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-GNOME-Live-i386.iso
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Beta1/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-Beta1-KDE-Live-i386.iso
>
> Please put "live CD" into the summary of bug reports, so we don't confuse
> them
> with the installation CDs. The Live CDs are still very early in development,
> but we would like to hear your feedback in general.
>
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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 09:36 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:

> > Adobe says that their "Acrobat Standard" reader does it:
> >
> > ] Acrobat Standard capabilities
> > ]
> > ] Acrobat Standard contains all the capabilities of Adobe Reader, in
> ] addition to the following:
> 
> 
> Okay, it appears they've munged the names. I've always used Acrobat
> Reader and Acrobat Pro.  They may be calling it "Standard" now.

No, it is a different version with some extra capabilities, priced at 
300$, and only for windows:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/acrobatstd.html

The other product that can save the data is the profesional version. Three 
versions, I think.

> 
> > I heard of a product named "cabaret" that claims to be able to do it,
> > and it has a Linux version (for home use, I think).
> >
> > http://www.cabaret-solutions.com/en/products/
> >
> > I haven't tried it yet.
> 
> I downloaded it and ran it. So far, no luck. It is Java-based and
> launches okay, but I cannot open a file or click on any of the menus
> without locking my system.

Locking the system!? :-(

> 
> Will keep trying.
> 

> >> Want to write something? :p
> >
> > Ha! No skills for that :-p
> 
> You are under rating yourself!!

Thanks :-) but I'm not a linux programmer, and as a dos/win one I'm rusty.

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Carlos E. R.]

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El 2007-08-12 a las 20:02 +0800, Jacky Woo escribió:

Please, remember to post to the list, not in private. Also, don't top 
post, please.

> Why!
> I can use openoffice with pdf work stuff. the latest version of course...
> I see no difficulties with it...

It appears you haven't understood the problem.

Ok, have a look at any these PDF forms:



  (click on one of the flags for your language)


Open any of them in acrobat reader (free edition), Linux or Windows. You 
will see a yellow message bar at the top saying:

] You can not save data typed into this form
] Please print your complete form if you would like a copy for your records

It will also have a button named "Print Form" and a click box "Highlight 
fields". If you hover the mouse of one of the fields, it will change from 
a hand to the editing tool. Click and a pop up message will warn you again 
that data can not be saved, only printed in full.

That is the problem, saving the form data.

Yes, it is possible to print the completed form to a file, and convert it 
to pdf in several ways. That is not what we are seeking for. We want to 
save the data alone, a feature that has been removed from the free reader 
(version 5 did save it), and that you can find in the standard reader, 
priced at 300$, windows only 
().

More info on how to save form data, from adobe:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=328647&sliceId=2



Associated to this problem is the fact that the adobe reader is the only 
viewer in Linux (or to be precise, those included with SuSE) that allows 
filling forms: neither kpdf, evince, etc, can even fill those forms, even 
though openoffice can create PDF forms.

Thus, two problems:

 1) save form data alone
 2) find a viewer in Linux that allows filling forms, aside from adobe 
reader.

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CLI vs. GUI (WAS: Re: [opensuse] Mount windoze shares)

[Kai Ponte]

On Sun, August 12, 2007 12:38 pm, G T Smith wrote:
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>> I didn't realize the OP was downgrading to the CLI to achieve this.
>>
>
> Whether using the CLI is an upgrade or downgrade is a matter of
> opinion,
> there are some things a GUI interface is useful for and for other
> things
> its a pain. Horses for courses :-)

No, it isn't opinion.

The fact that one MUST use the CLI for some things on a modern OS
desktop such as KDE - even in this day and regardless of ease - is
simply sad.

Were I able to open a nice GUI and click a few options, I'd much
appreicate it over having to type...

mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
scale=720:480,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=18:aspect=16/9:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192
-ofps 3/1001 -o netbeans_test_record.mpg netbeans_out.ogg

...to encode a video.

(The test screen capture listed above is located here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQAjPIZR2dg - by the way.)

I want a nice GUI like SMB4K (http://smb4k.berlios.de/) for selecting
networks of all sorts and setting mount points. This is MUCH
preferable to slogging through some incomprehensible man page to
figure options on a CLI-only app.

That said, if I were administering a SLES box from a remote location,
I'd want to be able to do most things through the CLI. That - believe
it or not - has been my argument against Windows "Server" products
such as NT 4, 2K and 2K3.

In a nutshell, I want the OPTION of doing it MY way. If I want to do
CLI work then I wouldn't need a GUI. If I am running a full-featured
GUI such as KDE or something else, then I shouldn't have to EVER go
into the CLI.

/soapbox



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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 17:09 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 07:37 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
> 
> > Here's an example of a form-fillable pdf from my employer...
> >
> > ...which you can fill out in *nix but not save unless you're in Wintendo.
> 
> I can't test that myself, but I'll pass that on to check.

Ok, a friend has tried it in with reader 8 in a windows 2000, and no, 
saving is not possible. It pops the known message saying so. If you can 
save it in windows it is because you don't use the free reader.

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[opensuse] Starting KDE4

[Stephen P. Molnar]

I just used YAST2 to install KDE4.

According to en.opensuse.org/KDE4 'The KDE4 package install into the 
/usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be installed at the same 
time.'  After the installation process  was finished there were no 
/usr prefix subdirectories.  The only KDE4 specific s/d's I can find 
are /usr/lib/kde4 and /usr/share/kde4.  Although perhaps I have missed some.


My question is how do I start KDE4?  Happily, startx at the command 
prompt still starts KDE3.5 so I haven't hosed my desktop.


Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [opensuse] Mount windoze shares

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Kai Ponte wrote:
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> I didn't realize the OP was downgrading to the CLI to achieve this.
> 

Whether using the CLI is an upgrade or downgrade is a matter of opinion,
there are some things a GUI interface is useful for and for other things
its a pain. Horses for courses :-)


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[opensuse] 10.3 install repositories

[Robert Lewis]

Early on in the installation a prompt asks if you would like to have
the repositories added.
I think it may be a big mistake to say yes as this easily increases
the time for an install to
4-6 times.  I have also seen hangs and multiple times when it goes out
to collect information over the net which becomes very painful.

Also, as a result, i think, of making this choice the prompts telling me what
is happening during install become nonsense.  That is, when the prompt
says things
like: -> Configure Display Manager
or later -> Users, instead I wait for an hour while the its downloading
information from a repository.  I see this happening over and over again
during a single installation. Probably 6-8 times it's collection what appears
to be the same information.

I'll try another reinstall tomorrow without making this choice.
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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse 10.3b beta-1 IDE harddrive

[Andreas Jaeger]

"Robert Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok, I messed up and had my IDE harddrive set
> for slave.  After quite a long tme a small one line
> message warned me that no harddrive was present.
>
> However, I went on for grins and it then told the
> installation to install the repositories.  Before the
> actual hard failure where the file system would be
> written a lot of time passed.
>
> I think it would have been better to have checked
> early on for a proper harddrive and if not present
> then abort.
>
> Should this be bugreported?

Yes, please together with the YaST logs.  See bugs.opensuse.org for
details,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse] Question on Clamav

[Adam Jimerson]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 02:17:22 am Registration Account wrote:
> Adam, hi there
>
> clamAV is NOT a real time ant-virus application. If you
> copy an infected file onto you disk then is will be
> copied across without saying anything.
>
>
> 1. go to your favourite xterm
> 2. log in as root
> 3. execute the command "freshclam"
> 4. when it finishes you need to run scans from time to
> time, now that you have executed a freshclam the daily
> database should be updates regularly - check
> Yast>system run levels - expert mode. after
> 5.still as root execute "clamscan - h" This will give
> you the options you need to scan.
>
> If you have more than 30GB of program and data and you
> scan the lot - let it run overnight - it just might be
> finished in the morning and the end will contain a -v
> verbose summary or you can use the
> "-move=/home/xx/  quarantine"
> and if anything is found it will be moved the the
> directory specified, however the directory must exist
> first.
>
> There is a GUI version of clamAV
>
> You can search Yast software for KlamAV or see the website
> http://www.klamav.net or http://www.clamav.net for the
> xterm
>
> Its Beta software and version 0.4.14.1 as it is would
> have cost me my job in the past despite its beta status
>  and is the absolute worst GUI interface as far as
> usability/flexibility/performance/adaptability I have
> ever seen despite its BETA status.
>
> 1. You think the xterm scan is slow...just wait.
> 2. try to load the real-time-agent - I could not.
> 3. Try and clean an infected file - you cannot.
> 4. Ignore the little spider top right corner - it
> contains all the browser script errors - and it uses
> Konqueror's browsing setting to communicate with the
> internet so if you have stuffed that up your KlamAV
> browser wont work
> 5.The only email it will protect is Kmail.
> 6.Good luck in loading the  auto-scan option
> 7.If you try to suspend you PC it will not be able to
> halt the KLamAV application and it will sit in limbo -
> to get out hit you off button on you PC for 1 second
> (and I mean 1 second - its quite long)only and your
> session should restore.
> 8. It is pretty!
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Scott
>
> Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > Does clamav log everything it outputs by default or do you have to tell
> > it to do so in the syntax?  The resion why I am asking this is clamscan
> > says that I have some infected folders, don't know where, and I would
> > like to check to see if it is not giving me a false positive or not.

The thing is I really don't think my system has a virus, not even in windows, 
I went and installed Avast Linux Workstation updated its virus database and 
scanned my system and according to avast the only problems that it found is 
that it wasn't able to read a couple of files, no viruses or anything.  Then 
to make sure it wasn't under Windows I booted windows updated Avast's virus 
database then rebooted it into safemode and scanned from there and it came up 
clean.  Then to be sure I used the Microsoft One Care online scanner to see 
if it could find anything, again every was clean.

BTW I know that clamAV does not do real-time scanning and that I have to run 
freshclam to update its database, and I did that before I ran it the first 
time.


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[opensuse] Opensuse 10.3b beta-1 IDE harddrive

[Robert Lewis]

Ok, I messed up and had my IDE harddrive set
for slave.  After quite a long tme a small one line
message warned me that no harddrive was present.

However, I went on for grins and it then told the
installation to install the repositories.  Before the
actual hard failure where the file system would be
written a lot of time passed.

I think it would have been better to have checked
early on for a proper harddrive and if not present
then abort.

Should this be bugreported?
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[opensuse] Is it possible to start suse linux 10.3 in usb hd storage?

[Ugo De Marinis(191)]

I have a acer notebook aspire 1644WLMi
the question is:
is it possible to start linux from an HD lacie usb storage?
tanks
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Re: [opensuse] postfix isn't accepting connections anymore. Any changes to postfix?

[Johannes Nohl]

> One question: why didn't you post the output from the grep command as
> requested; do you really expect people to dig out an answer from
> their xtal bowls?

I know. I started to anonymize the output of errs/warns/infos (I think
people don't want me to send their e-mail-adress over the mailing
list). Then the problem was gone out of sudden (as written in my last
e-mail). That's why I did not send it.

All I've read about DNS and postfix I could imagine that this was the
problem. But I tried the "disable_dns_lookups = yes" switch (as far as
I know it should stop all DNS queries). It didn't help...

Thanks to all
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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Kai Ponte]

On Sun, August 12, 2007 4:53 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 22:32 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, the only product which will actually save the form data
along
>> with the form is the Wintendo version of Acrobat Professional.
>
>
> Adobe says that their "Acrobat Standard" reader does it:
>
> ] Acrobat Standard capabilities
> ]
> ] Acrobat Standard contains all the capabilities of Adobe Reader, in
] addition to the following:




Okay, it appears they've munged the names. I've always used Acrobat
Reader and Acrobat Pro.  They may be calling it "Standard" now.

> I heard of a product named "cabaret" that claims to be able to do
it,
> and
> it has a Linux version (for home use, I think).
>
> http://www.cabaret-solutions.com/en/products/
>
> I haven't tried it yet.


I downloaded it and ran it. So far, no luck. It is Java-based and
launches okay, but I cannot open a file or click on any of the menus
without locking my system.

Will keep trying.


>
>
>> Want to write something? :p
>
> Ha! No skills for that :-p

You are under rating yourself!!





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Re: [opensuse] Conclusion of: Cannot burn DVDs from the command line

[Patrick Shanahan]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-12-07 11:42]:
> To the best of my knowledge, right now, the only problem seems to have
> been either DVD-R discs which *I* blanked before attempting to burn
> ;-) because I hadn't slept enough, or truly defective ones. Starting
> again the whole procedure with another new box of DVD-R didn't show
> any of the problems I reported and all the files have been backed up
> safely.


You may also expierence a problem related to DVD-R media which is not
*universally* compatable with all burners (iirc).  And after reading
the lifetime expectation and failure rates related to the two media
standards, DVD-R and DVD+R, I have converted *all* DVD-R media I have
to the DVD+R standard and no longer purchase DVD-R media. 

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 Beta1 +Compiz-fusion

[CyberOrg]

On 8/12/07, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> sudo nvidia-xconfig –composite –allow-glx-with-composite –render-accel –
> add-argb-glx-visuals
>
> It comes back with invalid option -composite. Guess it is because of not
> having the susefied nvidia drivers for 10.3. Maybe in the near future.
>

That should be with double dashes

nvidia-xconfig --composite --allow-glx-with-composite --render-accel
--add-argb-glx-visuals

Ciao

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[opensuse] 3rd party repository problems in 10.3 Beta1

[James Bland]

Has anyone had any problems getting the Guru or Packman repositories to load on 
10.3 Beta1?  I keep getting metadata errors. 
 
Thanks, 
 
James 

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[opensuse] Conclusion of: Cannot burn DVDs from the command line

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Hello,
>
> I have just been put in front of a computer with Suse 10.1 x86_64, a
> NEC ND-4550 DVD burner on /dev/hdc and a few DVD-R disks. I need to
> copy some critical files to those dvds as soon as possibl,... What am I
> doing wrong, or missing?

To the best of my knowledge, right now, the only problem seems to have been 
either DVD-R discs which *I* blanked before attempting to burn ;-)
because I hadn't slept enough, or truly defective ones. Starting again
the whole procedure with another new box of DVD-R didn't show any of
the problems I reported and all the files have been backed up safely.

Sorry for all the confusion, and sincere thanks to all those who helped
and made me learn several things that will be useful in other (less
embarassing for me, I hope...) future occasions.

Sorry also for using a broken email client like this, without threading
and all, but I'm not at my place these days and this was quite an
emergency.

Thanks again,
Ando
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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 Beta1 +Compiz-fusion

[Art Fore]

On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 17:57 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
> On Saturday 11 August 2007 04:02:57 pm Art Fore wrote:
> > On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 10:06 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
> > > On Saturday 11 August 2007 09:03:17 am CyberOrg wrote:
> > > > On 8/11/07, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone know how to get compiz-fusion running? I have installed
> > > > > all of the packages incloding those for gnome and kde, but the only
> > > > > thing I can find is compiz manager which does not have any start or
> > > > > stop in it that I can find.
> > > >
> > > > If you have supported graphics card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try init 3 -> log in as root -> gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl -> init 5
> > > >
> > > > login and launch compiz as follows
> > > >
> > > > compiz --replace ccp &
> > > >
> > > > Launch ccsm and select all the plugins you require, type in your
> > > > window decorator command in decoration plugin.
> > > >
> > > > see also: http://dev.beryl-project.org/~cyberorg/suse/38
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > >
> > > I would suggest not running XGL with Compiz Fusion if you have native
> > > NVIDIA drivers.. What video card do you have?
> > >
> > > Here, check out a blog that I wrote about compiz fusion:
> > >
> > > http://www.benkevan.com/blog/compiz-fusion-on-opensuse-102/
> > >
> > > Hope it helps
> > >
> > > --
> > > How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I
> > > don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me
> >
> > I have Nvidia geforce 7300 and it is working with the NVIDIA driver.
> > (That would not install with YAST, downloaded the latest version and
> > installed manuall). I will try your writeup when I get back from my swim
> > this morning, but I do have a question. Why does compiz-fusion not
> > require the xgl? (I will uninstall xgl, all of the programs you have
> > listed are installed).
> >
> > Art
> 
> Why would it not install via YaST? Did you do the G01 package? That's the 
> correct one to use. If you are running on native NVIDIA drivers, it can do 
> the rendering for you, and that is why you don't need XGL to do your 
> rendering. Less CPU usage too (I previously ran XGL with Beryl and then 
> switched to NVIDIA native driver, and worked much better and CPU usage stayed 
> way lower with Xorg).. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ben
> 

Done a complete reinstall. The compiz-fusion for 10.3 are in cyberorg
SUSEFactory repository instead of 10.2. 10.2 versions have too many
dependency problems. The NVIDIA drivers show up in Yast now, but they
are for the wrong kernel version. I did install the NVIDIA 100.14.11
driver with no problem. Everything worked upto the 
sudo nvidia-xconfig –composite –allow-glx-with-composite –render-accel –
add-argb-glx-visuals

It comes back with invalid option -composite. Guess it is because of not
having the susefied nvidia drivers for 10.3. Maybe in the near future.

Art

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Re: [opensuse] suse 10.3 beta1 64-bit dvd problem

[Art Fore]

On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 16:04 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Downloaded the 64 bit suse 10.3 beta1 via torrent. After 3 days of
> > downloading, I can burn the dvd, md5 checks OK, but, machine will not
> > boot from it. Burned another, same thing. I can read the files on the
> > disk, just not boot from it. Is this a bug or is there something special
> > with this dvd.
> 
> I've seen some bugs similar to yours coming in bugzilla.  Something
> looks rather fishy on 64-bit x86-64 with linuxrc (I expect you do not
> see the YaST Language selection at all).
> 
> We're investigating now,
> 
> Andreas

Another note on that. Suse 10.2 64-bit dvd boots fine. Both were created
on Sony DVD recorder and target machine is Benq dvd recorder.


Art

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 07:37 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:

> Here's an example of a form-fillable pdf from my employer...
> 
> ...which you can fill out in *nix but not save unless you're in Wintendo.

I can't test that myself, but I'll pass that on to check.

...

> Yeah, I suppose you could print to another PDF but that doesn't solve
> the "issue."
> 
> I just asked Adobe when this feature will be available.

No, the feature was _removed_. I'm told that adobe 5.x had that feature, 
and that now we need the "standard" reader, which is not free. I don't 
even know yet if there is a linux version of it.


And they are pushing pdf to become an ISO standard...


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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Randall R Schulz]

Please, no personal replies and please trim quotes and reply in-line.

On Sunday 12 August 2007 07:53, Jacky Woo wrote:
> On 8/12/07, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 August 2007 07:37, Kai Ponte wrote:
> > > ...
> > >
> > > I just asked Adobe when this feature will be available.
> >
> > Are people in this discussion aware that Adobe Reader for Mac OS X
> > and Windows is now at version 8.1 while we on Linux are still
> > relegated to version 7.0? Adobe has always dragged its feet when it
> > comes to releasing the Linux version of Adobe Reader (formerly
> > Acrobat Reader)
>
> Yep.
> Because versions for Linux are not profitable or something?

I don't see what that has to do with it, since the Reader product is 
distributed free of charge. Quite unlike Acrobat itself, which is as 
grossly overpriced as all Adobe's products.


> > > kai


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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 07:45 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> On Sunday 12 August 2007 07:37, Kai Ponte wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > I just asked Adobe when this feature will be available.
> 
> Are people in this discussion aware that Adobe Reader for Mac OS X and 
> Windows is now at version 8.1 while we on Linux are still relegated to 
> version 7.0? Adobe has always dragged its feet when it comes to 
> releasing the Linux version of Adobe Reader (formerly Acrobat Reader)

We have tried both windows and linux with Adobe Reader (free edition), and 
the problem is the same, even with version 8. The problem can be solved in 
windows using the "Standard" edition, which is not free.

The other solution is to use "LiveCycle" from adobe to generate a 
"rights-enabled PDF form":

] Using Adobe LiveCycle Reader Extensions, you can create a rights-enabled 
] PDF form that lets Adobe Reader users comment on, fill, save, 
] distribute, submit, and add digital signatures to the form. When you 
] open a rights-enabled PDF form in Adobe Reader, a dialog box appears 
] outlining the extended capabilities of the PDF file.

This, of course, I have not tried, as I'm not the one creating those pdfs.

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 09:58 -0400, BandiPat wrote:

> > I just tried to open one of their official forms and it took
> > two..three minutes to open it. These things include calculations and
> > possibly javascript. When it finished opening it, the appearance is
> > very far from the correct one.
> >*
> Yes, you're right, if you are just wanting to "fill" out the form and 
> resave as PDF, kword would be overkill, but it is good to know we have 
> something that can now edit a pdf easily.

It is an overkill, but the form is displayed incorrectly. The end result 
is not admisible.


> > > Also, check
> > > out "cups-pdf", which allows you to create a virtual printer for
> > > direct saving/printing to a very good pdf file!
> >
> > I see no cups-pdf in opensuse 10.2. Is it new in 10.3, perhaps? :-?
> >
> > I have my ways to print to pdf, but that wasn't my exact question,
> > anyway.

> ==
> I believe this would be your easiest solution to your problem.  Fill out 
> the form in acroread, then print it to pdf using the cups-pdf virtual 
> printer.  Simple and straight forward.  I don't remember the mirror for 
> cups-pdf, but remember seeing someone here mention it in another 
> thread.  I'm using Zenwalk Linux right now, so am not keeping up with 
> all of SuSE's mirrors & programs so much.

That's not the problem. I can always print to file and convert to pdf in 
many ways. That has never been the problem.

You don't understand.

I want a PDF viewer that can save the form data in one of the expected 
formats: FDF, PDF, HTML, XML. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: [opensuse] suse 10.3 beta1 64-bit dvd problem

[Sandy Drobic]

Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Downloaded the 64 bit suse 10.3 beta1 via torrent. After 3 days of
>> downloading, I can burn the dvd, md5 checks OK, but, machine will not
>> boot from it. Burned another, same thing. I can read the files on the
>> disk, just not boot from it. Is this a bug or is there something special
>> with this dvd.
> 
> I've seen some bugs similar to yours coming in bugzilla.  Something
> looks rather fishy on 64-bit x86-64 with linuxrc (I expect you do not
> see the YaST Language selection at all).

Nope, I downloaded Beta1 64-bit DVD x86-64 just yesterday, it checks out
fine in the media check and I can boot from it without problem (had to
change the device order, though).

I can change the language to German and the installation is started in
German as well. The real show-stopper comes when I choose to update an
already installed Opensuse 10.2 x86-64 as base for the installation.

During the dependendy check of the installed rpms it shows 27 packages
that can not be updated. So far no problem. Unfortunately when I choose to
delete the not-updatable packages, the system freezes solid. Not on the
first package, but somewhere in the middle. Tried it twice now, once from
top of list and second time from bottom of list. Last package I choose to
delete was libgcj41-32bit. The only thing moving after that was the mouse
cursor.

It was just like working with Windows. (^-^)

Since no Installation on harddisk happened yet, I can't provide you with
any log. :-(


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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 07:37, Kai Ponte wrote:
> ...
>
> I just asked Adobe when this feature will be available.

Are people in this discussion aware that Adobe Reader for Mac OS X and 
Windows is now at version 8.1 while we on Linux are still relegated to 
version 7.0? Adobe has always dragged its feet when it comes to 
releasing the Linux version of Adobe Reader (formerly Acrobat Reader)


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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[Kai Ponte]

On Sun, August 12, 2007 4:51 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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>
> The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 22:41 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
>
>> Have you tried the newer 1.6.3 Koffice for this?  I just got a new
>> build
>> the other day, loaded a PDF file in full editable form into KWord
>> and
>> of course, you can save as PDF from KWord or print to pdf.
>
> I assume you mean kword. Yes, kword can open PDF, and modify them, but
> that's not the intention. The intention is to open a PDF Form as in
> Acroread, where you can only fill the fields the author left for
> filling,
> and not being able to touch anything else. There is a special version
> of
> acroread that allows saving the data: that's what I want, in Linux,
> and
> free.

Here's an example of a form-fillable pdf from my employer...

http://easier.co.la.ca.us/JobsInfo/empapp.pdf

...which you can fill out in *nix but not save unless you're in Wintendo.


>
> In fact, I just opened a test PDF in kword and the text flow was
> broken.
> That would be unacceptable if I were to submit such a for to the
> administration.
>
> I just tried to open one of their official forms and it took
> two..three
> minutes to open it. These things include calculations and possibly
> javascript. When it finished opening it, the appearance is very far
> from
> the correct one.
>
>> Also, check
>> out "cups-pdf", which allows you to create a virtual printer for
>> direct
>> saving/printing to a very good pdf file!
>
> I see no cups-pdf in opensuse 10.2. Is it new in 10.3, perhaps? :-?
>
> I have my ways to print to pdf, but that wasn't my exact question,
> anyway.

Yeah, I suppose you could print to another PDF but that doesn't solve
the "issue."

I just asked Adobe when this feature will be available.

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Re: [opensuse] Mount windoze shares

[Kai Ponte]

On Sun, August 12, 2007 1:20 am, G T Smith wrote:

>
> The main issue with this is that you do not have a permanent mount.
> This
> is OK for browsing a folder but not a lot of use for working with its
> contents. (BTW If you already have a cifs mount to the server/domain
> you
> do not get a password query). Konqueror does have the option of adding
> a
> share in the network browsing section, dunno how well it works as I
> have
> never had any inclination to use it. The OP was asking for a CLI
> option.

Yes, it isn't permanent. Since I mount different shares every day, I
use it.

I didn't realize the OP was downgrading to the CLI to achieve this.

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Re: [opensuse] Mount windoze shares

[Jerry Feldman]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:29:03 +0200
Markus Koßmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, but  the name change also introduces a new linux for that protocol, 
> which for example now supports files >2GB. 

True. But we would have seen that even if Microsoft did not change the
name. 

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Re: [opensuse] hwcfg_and_device_initialisation

[Andreas Jaeger]

Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> sysconfig.rpm: README.hwcfg_and_device_initialisation:
>
>   Things have changed completely. Have fun.
>   ;)
>
>   FIXME: describe changes
>
> It renamed ifcfg-eth-id-XXX to ifcfg-eth0 for me, and does not even 
> explain it.

This is beta1?  Please file a bug, it should be really fixed.

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Re: [opensuse] suse 10.3 beta1 64-bit dvd problem

[Andreas Jaeger]

Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Downloaded the 64 bit suse 10.3 beta1 via torrent. After 3 days of
> downloading, I can burn the dvd, md5 checks OK, but, machine will not
> boot from it. Burned another, same thing. I can read the files on the
> disk, just not boot from it. Is this a bug or is there something special
> with this dvd.

I've seen some bugs similar to yours coming in bugzilla.  Something
looks rather fishy on 64-bit x86-64 with linuxrc (I expect you do not
see the YaST Language selection at all).

We're investigating now,

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

[BandiPat]

On Sunday 12 August 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 22:41 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
> > Have you tried the newer 1.6.3 Koffice for this?  I just got a new
> > build the other day, loaded a PDF file in full editable form into
> > KWord and of course, you can save as PDF from KWord or print to
> > pdf.
>
> I assume you mean kword. Yes, kword can open PDF, and modify them,
> but that's not the intention. The intention is to open a PDF Form as
> in Acroread, where you can only fill the fields the author left for
> filling, and not being able to touch anything else. There is a
> special version of acroread that allows saving the data: that's what
> I want, in Linux, and free.
>
> In fact, I just opened a test PDF in kword and the text flow was
> broken. That would be unacceptable if I were to submit such a for to
> the administration.
>
> I just tried to open one of their official forms and it took
> two..three minutes to open it. These things include calculations and
> possibly javascript. When it finished opening it, the appearance is
> very far from the correct one.
>*
Yes, you're right, if you are just wanting to "fill" out the form and 
resave as PDF, kword would be overkill, but it is good to know we have 
something that can now edit a pdf easily.

> > Also, check
> > out "cups-pdf", which allows you to create a virtual printer for
> > direct saving/printing to a very good pdf file!
>
> I see no cups-pdf in opensuse 10.2. Is it new in 10.3, perhaps? :-?
>
> I have my ways to print to pdf, but that wasn't my exact question,
> anyway.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>Carlos E. R.
==
I believe this would be your easiest solution to your problem.  Fill out 
the form in acroread, then print it to pdf using the cups-pdf virtual 
printer.  Simple and straight forward.  I don't remember the mirror for 
cups-pdf, but remember seeing someone here mention it in another 
thread.  I'm using Zenwalk Linux right now, so am not keeping up with 
all of SuSE's mirrors & programs so much.

regards,
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Re: [opensuse] fish protocol and > 2.6.20 kernel problem fixed in 10.3 beta?

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Aug 12 2007 20:26, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>On 08/12/2007 07:20 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> On Aug 12 2007 08:14, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>>   
>>> Can anyone please check and see if fish protocol is working in the 10.3
>>> betas.  In 10.2 IIRC it does not work properly with a kernel greater
>>> than 2.6.20 or so.  It seems to be some interaction between fish in the
>>> kernel,
>>
>> ERROR. fish is a userspace-only filesystem, and does not even use FUSE.
>> It uses bash only.
>>
>>> as the original kernel works fine, and it is not limited to
>>> openSUSE, see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 for more info. 
>>> Since I use fish quite a bit, I have went back to the 2.6.18 series
>>> kernel (i.e. latest updated 10.2 kernel) where it still works.
>
>Did you check out the bug report?  I know for certain, with all the same
>kde files, that it will not work normally with 2.6.22 (factory kernel)
>but works fine with 2.6.18.8-0.5.

I am running 2.6.22.2 (in 10.2), and mc has no problems creating a
"Shell Link" - which is fish[1] - on both i586 and x86_64, to
'another' 2.6.22.2 machine (localhost).

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol

Hence I believe this is not a kernel bug. Especially since

>between fish in the kernel,

there is no in-kernel fish code. I do not think it's a socket
issue either, because that would render mc unusable too.


Run KDE/GNOME from a console, wonder about all those assertion failed
messages, and then look for pointers. I get

### CRASH ### protocol = fish pid = 12345 signal = 29.

29? SIGIO. ("Your Input Is Ready.") I do not have much joy going
deeper than this. But fish://127.0.0.1 works, so I suspect your
asynchronous DNS handling is borked. It is really hard to track
thanks to all the processes a simple konqueror in twm spawns.


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Re: [opensuse] Certificate troubles - solved - why not solve it for good - write a wishlist bug

[Mike]

On August 11, 2007 10:05 pm, Registration Account wrote:
> Unreal Mike that you could locate the .pem file. I kick
> myself in not looking for the .pem file on my PC. Ok
> you have now valid root certificated that don't expire
> until the Linux Millenium Bug hit us and shuts down all
> Unix/Linux installations 2038. Just check again - the
> backup button only reveals itself when you hit "Your
> certificates", however I may be wrong as I cannot
> recall FF 1.5

Ok they are grayed out since there are no certificates displayed

Well apt-get got me again

It said I needed to run fix-broken and it said one of the kde components 
depended on 3.5 and I only had 3.4 so it removed kde  (ok i did say Yes, I 
figured that it would roll back to the previous version) 
But after than I'm with fvwm 

So I've pushed up the  migration to the new machine.


> Mike if you do not feel confident to write a bug
> wish-list let someone else do it.
>
> Scott
>
> It would be really nice if someone out there could
> raise a bug, wishlist, in system tools from boot from
> CD1 and option to update root certificated. MS and I
> really am sorry to compare them, had this option since
> Windows 3.1 yes 3.1 - 3.11 was essentially the same
> with the exception of the removal of the 286 code so
> Windows needed at least a 386 processor.


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Re: [opensuse] fish protocol and > 2.6.20 kernel problem fixed in 10.3 beta?

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

On 08/12/2007 07:20 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Aug 12 2007 08:14, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>   
>> Can anyone please check and see if fish protocol is working in the 10.3
>> betas.  In 10.2 IIRC it does not work properly with a kernel greater
>> than 2.6.20 or so.  It seems to be some interaction between fish in the
>> kernel,
>> 
>
> ERROR. fish is a userspace-only filesystem, and does not even use FUSE.
> It uses bash only.
>
>   
>> as the original kernel works fine, and it is not limited to
>> openSUSE, see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 for more info. 
>> Since I use fish quite a bit, I have went back to the 2.6.18 series
>> kernel (i.e. latest updated 10.2 kernel) where it still works.
>> 
Did you check out the bug report?  I know for certain, with all the same
kde files, that it will not work normally with 2.6.22 (factory kernel)
but works fine with 2.6.18.8-0.5.  I downgraded to double check.  If you
can help track it down, please do.  If you run 10.3 b1, does it work
with it, and what kernel is it?  What changed in the kernel to cause
this I wished I knew.  I'm sure the developer would too.

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[opensuse] hwcfg_and_device_initialisation

[Jan Engelhardt]

sysconfig.rpm: README.hwcfg_and_device_initialisation:

Things have changed completely. Have fun.
;)

FIXME: describe changes

It renamed ifcfg-eth-id-XXX to ifcfg-eth0 for me, and does not even 
explain it.


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[opensuse] suse 10.3 beta1 64-bit dvd problem

[Art Fore]

Downloaded the 64 bit suse 10.3 beta1 via torrent. After 3 days of
downloading, I can burn the dvd, md5 checks OK, but, machine will not
boot from it. Burned another, same thing. I can read the files on the
disk, just not boot from it. Is this a bug or is there something special
with this dvd.

Art

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

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The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 22:32 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:

> AFAIK, the only product which will actually save the form data along
> with the form is the Wintendo version of Acrobat Professional.


Adobe says that their "Acrobat Standard" reader does it:

] Acrobat Standard capabilities
]
] Acrobat Standard contains all the capabilities of Adobe Reader, in 
] addition to the following:
]
] -- Export and save PDF forms in Forms Data Format (FDF). FDF is a text 
] file format specifically for data exported from PDF form fields. FDF 
] files are significantly smaller than PDF files because they contain only 
] form field data, not the entire form.
]
] -- Save or Export PDF form information as a PDF file or in XFDF format 
] for XML-based FDF files.

> 
> Though I've gotten in and edited PDF data I've yet to actually save it
> in a form using *nix.

Acroread is the only viewer included with suse Linux that displays and 
allows editing of form fields. The rest just display the form, but do not 
allow filling them. None will save the contents.

I heard of a product named "cabaret" that claims to be able to do it, and 
it has a Linux version (for home use, I think).

http://www.cabaret-solutions.com/en/products/

I haven't tried it yet.


> Want to write something? :p

Ha! No skills for that :-p

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Re: [opensuse] Is it possible to edit and save PDF forms?

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The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 22:41 -0400, BandiPat wrote:

> Have you tried the newer 1.6.3 Koffice for this?  I just got a new build 
> the other day, loaded a PDF file in full editable form into KWord and 
> of course, you can save as PDF from KWord or print to pdf.  

I assume you mean kword. Yes, kword can open PDF, and modify them, but 
that's not the intention. The intention is to open a PDF Form as in 
Acroread, where you can only fill the fields the author left for filling, 
and not being able to touch anything else. There is a special version of 
acroread that allows saving the data: that's what I want, in Linux, and 
free.

In fact, I just opened a test PDF in kword and the text flow was broken. 
That would be unacceptable if I were to submit such a for to the 
administration.

I just tried to open one of their official forms and it took two..three 
minutes to open it. These things include calculations and possibly 
javascript. When it finished opening it, the appearance is very far from 
the correct one.

> Also, check 
> out "cups-pdf", which allows you to create a virtual printer for direct 
> saving/printing to a very good pdf file!

I see no cups-pdf in opensuse 10.2. Is it new in 10.3, perhaps? :-?

I have my ways to print to pdf, but that wasn't my exact question, anyway.

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Re: [opensuse] Fonts

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Aug 12 2007 20:59, Dave Barton wrote:
>In the process of restoring my original OpenOffice.org configurations I
>noticed that many of the previously available fonts were not accessible,
>even though I had reinstalled all of them on 10.2. When I searched for
>the location of truetype fonts on the system, I found a hodge-podge of
>various, sometimes duplicated, truetype fonts installed (not soft links)
>in the following directories:
>/usr/local/share/fonts
>/usr/share/fonts/truetype
>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
>
>The OpenOffice.org configuration is easy to fix, but does anyone know
>why fonts are scattered around in this apparently disorganized fashion?

10.2 puts fonts in /usr/share/fonts.
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts is still supported for backwards-compatibility.

/usr/local/share/fonts obviously sounds like the logical counterpart to
/usr/share/fonts, just like /usr/local/bin is to /usr/bin. Nothing
special.


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Re: [opensuse] Skype install

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Chris Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-11-07 22:18]:
> On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 21:25 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Chris Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
> > > I use SLED SP1 and i am trying to install skype 1.4 beta. I get a
> > > dependency error about libqtxxx.so.4. I have qt3 installed and according
> > > to the skype site, it requires Qt 4.2.1+. Where do i get Qt 4.2.1+ so i
> > > can install skype?
> > 
> > 
> >   http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/
> > 
> > and/or
> > 
> > install webpin and then do a control line search.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711
> > http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album:  http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
> > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org
> 
> OK, i installed libqt4.2.1 and still get a dependency error. Another
> requirement for skype is libasound2. This i do not see installed on my
> system. I do have alsa; isn't libasound alsa. I don't want to mess my
> sound up after i have just re-installed. Can i install libasound2
> without messing with sound/alsa?

did you consider looking for it in the same manner you looked for
"libatxxx."?

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Re: [opensuse] About bugzilla.novell.com and bugs

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 08:42 +0200, Chema wrote:

> Ok,Ok...I really understand but seems that nobody things about the 10
> days somebody lost to try solved the problem with acroread.In this case
> the information was the same,more or less,but I suppose one bug go to
> correct people (the last) and one goes to... (my bug)
> Regards

True.

It also means your report wasn't evaluated in time. If the people having 
to read bugzilla had acted faster, the second report wouldn't have been 
reported. Also, the second reporter should have read the already existing 
reports and add to yours instead of opening a new one.

Both reports tells the same history in very similar words, so the 
assumption that the one with more details got through is not correct in 
this case.

The report that got through was made by a Novell employee, and his was 
marked "critical" against the gnome platform (yours simply Normal-other) 
so his was evaluated first. Or, being made by an insider he knew which 
door to bang or phone to :-p


It may all be very nice an correct, but it means a waste of time, and an 
understandable disappointment for reporters.


But you are also at fault, as the same bug was reported earlier, by 
another Novell employee, and marked duplicate too :-p

Three different reports before somebody took notice. M...


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Re: [opensuse] fish protocol and > 2.6.20 kernel problem fixed in 10.3 beta?

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Aug 12 2007 08:14, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
>
>Can anyone please check and see if fish protocol is working in the 10.3
>betas.  In 10.2 IIRC it does not work properly with a kernel greater
>than 2.6.20 or so.  It seems to be some interaction between fish in the
>kernel,

ERROR. fish is a userspace-only filesystem, and does not even use FUSE.
It uses bash only.

>as the original kernel works fine, and it is not limited to
>openSUSE, see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 for more info. 
>Since I use fish quite a bit, I have went back to the 2.6.18 series
>kernel (i.e. latest updated 10.2 kernel) where it still works.


Jan
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[opensuse] Fonts

[Dave Barton]

I have just changed (fresh install) my main production system from 10.1
to 10.2 (Big Mistake!!! but that's another issue).

In the process of restoring my original OpenOffice.org configurations I
noticed that many of the previously available fonts were not accessible,
even though I had reinstalled all of them on 10.2. When I searched for
the location of truetype fonts on the system, I found a hodge-podge of
various, sometimes duplicated, truetype fonts installed (not soft links)
in the following directories:
/usr/local/share/fonts
/usr/share/fonts/truetype
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype

The OpenOffice.org configuration is easy to fix, but does anyone know
why fonts are scattered around in this apparently disorganized fashion?

Windows may not have a lot going for it, but at least application
developers and users can be reasonably confident of finding all
installed fonts in one known location.

Dave



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Re: [opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone?

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The Saturday 2007-08-11 at 17:41 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:16:32 +0200 (CEST), Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> >Plus, there is a "/usr/share/man/man1p/compress.1p.gz" file that belongs 
> >to "man-pages-2.41-11", but no compress binary anywhere.
> 
> compress was removed because it used a patented compression algorithm
> ( I'm not shure if the patent is still valid though) and gzip can
> uncomress archives produced by compress.

Ah, I see. I think I remember now reading about it. The man page could 
then include a note by suse/novell explaining the removal. It does say 
that the algorithms are patented, though.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone? - With a twist towards the future ?

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The Sunday 2007-08-12 at 01:42 -0800, John Andersen wrote:

[disk compression]

> > It was a great technology, but a bit problematic on a high demand setup.
> > You tend to have very few compressed files but the overheads of the
> > compression process being active.
> 
> It was also dangerous.  I had one client that ran out of disk on Netware
> and it became a nightmare to salvage data from the machine because
> there was not enough room to decompress the very large files his business
> tended to create.


There is another method, which is used by MS on NT partitions. A directory 
can be marked compressed, and all files in there are compressed always (I 
think). You can mark for compression only those directories that interests 
you; for instance, I would mark backup mail folders.

The ext2 filesystem was designed to have compression of this sort some 
time, but it has never been implemented. Pity. True, storage is cheaper 
nowdays, but compression is even cheaper.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Install or Update?

[Rajko M.]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 04:26:10 am Jerry Houston wrote:
> The only obvious remaining problem is that I need to boot from the DVD,
> and select Boot from Hard Drive in order to get 10.3 started.  If I
> remove the DVD and boot from the hard drive, I get my old GRUB, and it
> offers only 10.2 versions.
>
> Is there a simple fix for this?  I assume that the 10.3 installation
> didn't put the boot loader in an expected location, but it sounds like
> something that can be fixed.  Starting it with the DVD in place is just
> a little annoying, since I'd rather use that drive to listen to CDs.
>
> Thanks in advance,

Installation program should have make active partition. or they don't do it 
with development version ?!

It is simple with Konsole and Midnight Commander, if installed. 
Anyway boot old system and add menu entry to /boot/grub/menu.list

If you partition is /dev/hda8 then:

title openSUSE 10.3 menu
  root (hd0,7)
  makeactive
  chainloader +1



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Re: [opensuse] Re: Install or Update?

[Jerry Houston]

Rajko M. wrote:
> >
> > By default GRUB will be installed in boot sector of partition where you
> > install new system, but it will be changed active flag too. This
works this
> > way at least from 10.2.
> >
> > So if you want your old menu, you have to change active partition
back to old
> > one, as described in previous post. Than boot to that system and add
manually
> > entry with chainloader that points to partition with new system.
> >
> > This will give you your old menu first and when you select 10.3 it
will pop up
> > new menu.
> >
> > The way I do it will go direct in 10.3, but I can't see and test
quality of
> > second menu. I guess that I'll add new menu item 10.3 via
chainloader to old
> > boot, just to have that option too.
> >

Thanks everyone, for the help.  I have 10.3 b1 up and running just fine
now, and it sounds fantastic.  Before I made the switch, I copied my
/home directory to the spare disk, hda1, and was thus able to copy all
my Thunderbird settings and mail store, Firefox favorites, etc., all to
my new /home folder after all the dust settled.  I even had no problem
compiling a new kernel with my NVIDIA 3-D module.

The only obvious remaining problem is that I need to boot from the DVD,
and select Boot from Hard Drive in order to get 10.3 started.  If I
remove the DVD and boot from the hard drive, I get my old GRUB, and it
offers only 10.2 versions.

Is there a simple fix for this?  I assume that the 10.3 installation
didn't put the boot loader in an expected location, but it sounds like
something that can be fixed.  Starting it with the DVD in place is just
a little annoying, since I'd rather use that drive to listen to CDs.

Thanks in advance,

Jerry in Bothell, WA



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Re: [opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone? - With a twist towards the future ?

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 12 August 2007, G T Smith wrote:
> It was a great technology, but a bit problematic on a high demand setup.
> You tend to have very few compressed files but the overheads of the
> compression process being active.

It was also dangerous.  I had one client that ran out of disk on Netware
and it became a nightmare to salvage data from the machine because
there was not enough room to decompress the very large files his business
tended to create.

Simply copying off files to another server became a one-by-one operation,
as the copy operation would cause decompression, and would exhaust all
available space if done en-mass.  We would copy one file to the new server
and then had to delete the source file, and copy another.  Rinse, repeat.

After about two hours of this, we finally got to where we could copy 
entire small directories.  Erase, erase, Copy another directory, etc.

Its a trap for the unwary. 

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Re: [opensuse] Re: compress? uncompress? Why are they gone? - With a twist towards the future ?

[G T Smith]

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> For all of those who know Netware well, you know the
> disk volume is by default as being compressed and when
> a file is requested it is uncompressed and will remain
> that way unless the file is re-requested from disk
> within a parameter set time period.
> 
> Novell have a great compression/uncompress algorithm
> that by default coverer's every defined volume of disk
> space, however, why it is perfectly safe and why it can
> be relied on is their TTS fault tolerant RAID 1,
> Cluster duplication, Hotfix, etc. etc. etc..
> 
> I would hope to see some work done along this vane with
> the FS of SLES, in my humble opinion if any server
> cannot perform a hotfix or does not have TTS then its
> not worth anything.
> 
> Rule 0. Data integrity the the foundation of a
> successful PC server right up to a Z series Mainframe
> from IBM.
> 
> Novell Netware introduced compression - turned on by
> default and with all its current redundancies,
> compression was a non issue, however in reality is gave
> you a lot of space for nothing, however if an
> organisations is still storing data files on local PC
> HDD - I feel very sorry for them.
> 
> If someone is interested,and more to the point knows
> something, is there a possibility that we will ever see
> reliable compression of Linux Servers with suitable
> redundancy measures - (nothing to do with  the past
> pathetic attempt of compressing stand alone Workstations.)
> 
> AND
> 
> With further expansion of the 'ex' file system are we
> likely to see TTS included in perhaps ex4?
> 
> If someone could let me know if either of these are in
> the pipeline that would be nice ( you can have a make
> up name if you work for SUSE.DE Development.
> 
> Scott
> 

< snip >

This was a per file compression algorithm in NW4.x (they may have
changed it in 5/6 but I doubt it). The main problem with volume
compression is with capacity planning (is really 4G I have left or a
notional 4G)... Compression effects vary according to file contents and
I have seen on a couple of remarkable occasions 200:1 compression ratios
(SPSS data files which were mainly spaces).

With current drive capacities and costs it is no longer that critical
(compressed data transmission of course is a different matter).

As former Netware administrator you should also be aware of the problems
this caused with quota management. Compression was not immediate, only
when a file had not been accessed for a time, When a file was accessed
it was decompressed. Quotas tended to measured against disk space used
rather than uncompressed disk space. When used with something like the
Mercury mailer you could get the scenario where by reading their mail a
user would go over quota and all sorts of grief ensued. (Usually when
someone had been away for a while).

It was a great technology, but a bit problematic on a high demand setup.
You tend to have very few compressed files but the overheads of the
compression process being active. It was tuneable, but setting the
compression delay too low could generate a serious performance penalty.

For these reasons a lot of admins avoided using it.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Install or Update?

[Rajko M.]

On Sunday 12 August 2007 03:23:00 am jdd wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > I use new installation and expert options tab where I tell installer not
> > to install grub. After installation is complete I add entry in existing
> > /boot/grub/menu.lst
>
> better tel it to install grub on the new root partition. so the grub
> line to add later, in the old good grub that is know to work (old
> install), is only a chainloader (+1) (clone the windows one if available).
>
> in that way one can change at will the content of the trial partition
> without changing grub again...
>
> jdd

By default GRUB will be installed in boot sector of partition where you 
install new system, but it will be changed active flag too. This works this 
way at least from 10.2. 

So if you want your old menu, you have to change active partition back to old 
one, as described in previous post. Than boot to that system and add manually 
entry with chainloader that points to partition with new system. 

This will give you your old menu first and when you select 10.3 it will pop up 
new menu. 

The way I do it will go direct in 10.3, but I can't see and test quality of 
second menu. I guess that I'll add new menu item 10.3 via chainloader to old 
boot, just to have that option too. 

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[opensuse] Re: Install or Update?

[jdd]

Rajko M. wrote:

I use new installation and expert options tab where I tell installer not to 
install grub. After installation is complete I add entry in existing 
  /boot/grub/menu.lst


better tel it to install grub on the new root partition. so the grub 
line to add later, in the old good grub that is know to work (old 
install), is only a chainloader (+1) (clone the windows one if available).


in that way one can change at will the content of the trial partition 
without changing grub again...


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Mount windoze shares

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> On Sat, August 11, 2007 9:59 am, Chris Arnold wrote:
> 
> top posting corrected...
> 
>> Chris Arnold wrote:
> If you do install SAMBA - which is what you use to get into wintendo
> shares - you will need to mount them either through the archaic mount
> command (can someone PLEASE provide an easy GUI for this??) or through
> Konqueror.
> 
> At work I mount shares all the time.  I use the following protocol in
> Konqueror...
> 
> smb://domain/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/share.
> 
> For example, to load my main (XP) desktop, I'd type:
> 
> smb://vims/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/C$
> 
> It then asks me for my password and I'm in.
> 
> HTH
> 
> HAND
> 

The main issue with this is that you do not have a permanent mount. This
is OK for browsing a folder but not a lot of use for working with its
contents. (BTW If you already have a cifs mount to the server/domain you
do not get a password query). Konqueror does have the option of adding a
share in the network browsing section, dunno how well it works as I have
never had any inclination to use it. The OP was asking for a CLI option.



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