Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Kevin Valko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Oct 08. 2007 05:19]:
 On Thursday 04 October 2007 12:01:47 am Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
  that is called transaction, I suspect that there is a good reason why
  it is not implemented the way you suggest.
 
 Ok, but what is the good reason?  I agree that Smart is not a good model to 
 follow due to the weaknesses in package resolution (particularly for 
 multi-arch), but what is wrong with downloading all packages prior to 
 installing?

It depends on the number of packages. For a normal maintenance update
with only a handful of packages, download all is probably a good
strategy.

With distribution upgrade (i.e. 10.2-10.3) or factory update with
hundreds of packages, you'll need quite some disk space ;-)

 
 I don't buy the disk space argument, that is easy enough to pre-determine 
 before an upgrade, so I'm not sure why Yast doesn't operate this way.  

Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?

We probably do not want to code, debug, test and maintain two
different strategies.


We are evaluating extensions to the current 'download one, install one'
strategy for the next OpenSUSE version and will post results to this
list.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Klaus Kaempf escribió:

 Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?

smart (or rather Python last time I checked) was to SIGSEGV :P

 
 We probably do not want to code, debug, test and maintain two
 different strategies.
 

indeed . mantaining two strategies does not make much sense, it is
better to have only one, working way. ;)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Igor Jagec
On Pon, 2007-10-08 at 11:11 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

 We probably do not want to code, debug, test and maintain two
 different strategies.

I've noticed that I can update my system and run rpmbuild command at the
same time. That's a nice feature :)

 We are evaluating extensions to the current 'download one, install one'
 strategy for the next OpenSUSE version and will post results to this
 list.

Do you evaluate extensions for repo priorities? Something like
protectbase plugin for Yum? I've experienced some dependency issues with
Packman repository, but Packman packager does not use Zypper as myself,
he uses SmartPM (which can handle situations like that). I told him that
openSUSE developers does not recommend SmartPM so he rebuild these
packages in order to resolve conflicts. I think that feature would be
very important for Zypper.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Igor Jagec [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Oct 08. 2007 11:56]:
 
 Do you evaluate extensions for repo priorities?

Yes.
We will certainly have the ability to prioritize repositories in the
future.

Klaus

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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 08 Oct 2007 22:11:52 NZDT +1300, Klaus Kaempf wrote:

 It depends on the number of packages. For a normal maintenance update
 with only a handful of packages, download all is probably a good
 strategy.
 
 With distribution upgrade (i.e. 10.2-10.3) or factory update with
 hundreds of packages, you'll need quite some disk space ;-)

Uhhmm, like, 4.2GB tops, that being the size of the DVD which is a
fits-all? What's the smallest disk you can buy these days, 80GB? 120GB?

 Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?

Display a warning before starting. Size of all packages/files to
download is known before download begins. There is df.

What I would like to see is the creation of a download cache which can
be copied/shared with other hosts (which would imply it's not created at
/var/lib/random/phaseofmoon/day-of-week/yast/). The cache only contains
what's needed at least once, not the whole shebang. Debian (so I
believe) hits the nail square on the head there.

Volker

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[opensuse-factory] OpenSuSE 10.3 with XEN and LVM

2007-10-08 Thread Thorolf Godawa

Hi,

OK, it seems that OpenSuSE 10.3 still is a little bit beta so I try it
here also.

I'm trying to install OpenSuSE 10.3 on an old iP IV-HT with Intel 865G,
SATA-HDD and PATA-DVD.

I'm doing a new installation (no upgrade from 10.2 which was installed
before), selected minimal graphical system, XFCE-desktop,
Host-Server for XEN, Kernel-development and some others, selected
for /boot, /, /usr, /var and swap the partitions I created
with 10.2 and for /home the LVM-volume /dev/vg01/home I also made
with 10.2!

The installation is running through and mostly everything works fine IF
I start with the default kernel.


The only thing is, that I get only 55Hz refresh rate with X11, I tried
several monitor-settings (Eizo FlexScan F563, VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED], VESA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and VESA [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I don't get more than 55Hz -
for me it's not a big problem because I need X11 only for the first
configuration, later I'll use ssh for everything else.


I also recognized that the naming for the partitions in /etc/fstab
changed from 10.2 to 10.3:

/dev/sda1/boot
  ext3  acl,user_xattr  1 2

/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_Maxtor_6Y160M0_Y44AGXFE-part1 /boot
  ext3  acl,user_xattr  1 2

What is the reason for this? Are there any advantages or only the
disadvantage that I can't just replace the harddrive after copying over
all files?


The BIG problem I have that the system does not boot with the
XEN-kernel. During boot it tells me that one partition needs a manual
fsck.ext3 and stops, checking the partition does not help but the
default-kernel still boots without any problems :-(

I was able to solve the problem by moving /home from the LVM-volume
/dev/vg01/home to the root-partition /dev/sda7, but this is not a
real solution.

After doing so the system now starts, but I have several errors during
the boot of the system:

- boot.msg -
Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.22.5-31-xen
Loaded 24632 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.22.5-31-xen.
Symbols match kernel version 2.6.22.
No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
...
Starting irqbalance startproc:  signal catched /usr/sbin/irqbalance:
Segmentation fault
failed
...
Starting Name Service Cache Daemonstartproc:  signal catched
/usr/sbin/nscd: Segmentation fault
failed
...
Starting RPC portmap daemonstartproc:  signal catched /sbin/portmap:
Segmentation fault
failed
...
Starting smartd startproc:  signal catched /usr/sbin/smartd:
Segmentation fault
failed
...
Failed services in runlevel 3: irq_balancer nscd portmap smartd
Skipped services in runlevel 3: smbfs splash xendomains
noticekillproc: kill(2134,3)
- boot.msg -

Anyway the system works more or less, I can start XFCE4 with 55Hz :-(
and also the Virtualization within YaST.

Next step would be the creation of a new VM using LVM-volumes for the
PV-system and it's data, but if I want to add a new virtual harddisk I
can't find ( ) use block-device (Block-Gerät verwenden) I had in my
10.2 installation :-(


With OpenSuSE 10.2 all the above worked fine, but because the 10.3 comes
with Xen 3.10 I really would prefer that if it would work!


Thanks a lot for any ideas,
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Chau y hasta luego,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp

2007-10-08 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Oct 08. 2007 12:37]:
 On Mon 08 Oct 2007 22:11:52 NZDT +1300, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
 
  It depends on the number of packages. For a normal maintenance update
  with only a handful of packages, download all is probably a good
  strategy.
  
  With distribution upgrade (i.e. 10.2-10.3) or factory update with
  hundreds of packages, you'll need quite some disk space ;-)
 
 Uhhmm, like, 4.2GB tops, that being the size of the DVD which is a
 fits-all? What's the smallest disk you can buy these days, 80GB? 120GB?

Hehe. Disks are always 99% full, no matter the size ;-)

Actually, my Laptop (with 60GB disk) runs with Xen and a couple of
LVM partitions each approx. 80% used. The maximum space left is less
than a gig.

Bottom line: There are pros and cons for both approaches.

 
  Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?
 
 Display a warning before starting. Size of all packages/files to
 download is known before download begins. There is df.

Sure. But what to do if the size is not sufficient ?

 
 What I would like to see is the creation of a download cache which can
 be copied/shared with other hosts (which would imply it's not created at
 /var/lib/random/phaseofmoon/day-of-week/yast/). The cache only contains
 what's needed at least once, not the whole shebang. Debian (so I
 believe) hits the nail square on the head there.

And we're determined to implement such a cache in the next
version of OpenSUSE.

Klaus

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[opensuse-factory] should keyboards with active LEDs be suspended

2007-10-08 Thread Oliver Neukum
Hi,

powersaving in the idle state requires the USB busses to be suspended.
This means that all LEDs on keyboards (Num-lock, CapaLock, ...) will
be deactivated. The keyboards behavior is not affected. Can we live with
an inconsistency of this kind or should keyboards with active LEDs not
go into powersave?

Regards
Oliver
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[opensuse-factory] should keyboards with active LEDs be suspended

2007-10-08 Thread Oliver Neukum
Hi,

powersaving in the idle state requires the USB busses to be suspended.
This means that all LEDs on keyboards (Num-lock, CapaLock, ...) will
be deactivated. The keyboards behavior is not affected. Can we live with
an inconsistency of this kind or should keyboards with active LEDs not
go into powersave?

Regards
Oliver
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[opensuse-factory] Firefox preview

2007-10-08 Thread Arto Viitanen
My brother updated OpenSuSE 10.3 yesterday from 10.2. Installation told
that his /boot partition
is too small. We installed it anyhow and it seemed to work, but firefox
print preview crashed the
firefox. We assumed it was because of problems with update.

Today I tried the preview on my own OpenSuSE 10.3, which is installed
onto a clean system
(I had had ext3 on 10.3 RC1, but I prefer xfs, so I formatted the disk).
And yes, firefox crashes.

Is this OpenSuSE 10.3 problem, or is this more generic Firefox problem?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firefox preview

2007-10-08 Thread Florin Samareanu

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 17:32 +0300, Arto Viitanen wrote:
  We installed it anyhow and it seemed to work, but firefox
 print preview crashed the
 firefox. We assumed it was because of problems with update.
 

i experience the same problem here. it was a clean 10.3 installation
with no warnings.
can you open a bug report on that?

 Today I tried the preview on my own OpenSuSE 10.3, which is installed
 onto a clean system
 (I had had ext3 on 10.3 RC1, but I prefer xfs, so I formatted the disk).
 And yes, firefox crashes.
 
 Is this OpenSuSE 10.3 problem, or is this more generic Firefox problem?
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firefox preview

2007-10-08 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Florin Samareanu wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 17:32 +0300, Arto Viitanen wrote:
  We installed it anyhow and it seemed to work, but firefox
 print preview crashed the
 firefox. We assumed it was because of problems with update.

 
 i experience the same problem here. it was a clean 10.3 installation
 with no warnings.
 can you open a bug report on that?

Already there and it's GTK bug it seems.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331725


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper shutdown command..

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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Marcus Rueckert schreef:
 On 2007-10-05 16:22:47 +0200, M9. wrote:
 I used the shutdown command, and noticed that zypper demands a time to
 do this, so if there is nothing to update, it will not shut down after
 the job is done..
 If told to shut down now, a proposition made in th help file, it shuts
 down imidiately, without a proper method.
 Apps that are open don't get saved .

 I suggest, zypper calls the normal shutdown procedure for this action,
 now it feels like a crash ;-)

 On the other hand, zypper handles the upgrade perfectly, no probs wse..nice!

 zypper cant know how to tell all your applications how to shut down
 properly. and it should not know that. if you know that your cmdline
 will shutdown later on. how about your closing all applications and save
 the stuff before calling zypper ; shutdown -h now?

 that sounds more reasonable to me.

 darix


After one knows what happens this is an option.
But i do not agree with you that zypper can not call the kde shutdown
command?

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[opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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Hi,

When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
turned into a zombie.
Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- Hung.

So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
gets into.

Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper shutdown command..

2007-10-08 Thread Michal Marek
M9. wrote:
 Marcus Rueckert schreef:
 zypper cant know how to tell all your applications how to shut down
 properly. and it should not know that. if you know that your cmdline
 will shutdown later on. how about your closing all applications and save
 the stuff before calling zypper ; shutdown -h now?
 
 After one knows what happens this is an option.
 But i do not agree with you that zypper can not call the kde shutdown
 command?

It's *not* zypper, it's the shell. If you find out how to run the kde
shutdown from the shell (some dcop magic I expect), then you can of
course replace the 'shutdown' command with it. Zypper just exits when
it's done with it's job, it doesn't care about your open applications.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
 turned into a zombie.
 Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
 After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
 be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
 reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- Hung.
 
 So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
 gets into.
 
 Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?
 

I deleted the text and disgarded all, than i could shut down.
But now i can not open a document from the open document icon.
So it is the same as in RC1.
RC2 was allright, everything worked ok, but now in GM the same fault is
happening again.

Must i file a bug report?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper shutdown command..

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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Michal Marek schreef:
 M9. wrote:
 Marcus Rueckert schreef:
 zypper cant know how to tell all your applications how to shut down
 properly. and it should not know that. if you know that your cmdline
 will shutdown later on. how about your closing all applications and save
 the stuff before calling zypper ; shutdown -h now?
 After one knows what happens this is an option.
 But i do not agree with you that zypper can not call the kde shutdown
 command?
 
 It's *not* zypper, it's the shell. If you find out how to run the kde
 shutdown from the shell (some dcop magic I expect), then you can of
 course replace the 'shutdown' command with it.

...

 Zypper just exits when
 it's done with it's job, it doesn't care about your open applications.
 
 Michal
 

I think, that if you want to have a package manager, that is taken
serious, there would be nothing against shutting down the pc, as it
should be done, instead of letting it 'crash', what the hell: let it
crash! These stupids have to learn how to shut down themselves!is
not the right attitude dude..;-)
A package manager installs the apps, so i think the least it could do ,
is 'care' about them?



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread Ain Vagula
M9. kirjutas:
 
 
 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 
 When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
 turned into a zombie.
 Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
 After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
 be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
 reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- Hung.
 
 So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
 gets into.
 
 Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?
 
 
 I deleted the text and disgarded all, than i could shut down.
 But now i can not open a document from the open document icon.
 So it is the same as in RC1.
 RC2 was allright, everything worked ok, but now in GM the same fault is
 happening again.
 
 Must i file a bug report?


You have 64bit system? Check your gtk2 and glib2 versions.
You can also have a look at my message in this list
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00303.html
and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438870

Here it works now with
gtk2-2.12.0-5.2 and glib2-2.14.1-4

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread Ain Vagula
Ain Vagula kirjutas:
 M9. kirjutas:

 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
 turned into a zombie.
 Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
 After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
 be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
 reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- Hung.
 So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
 gets into.
 Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?

 I deleted the text and disgarded all, than i could shut down.
 But now i can not open a document from the open document icon.
 So it is the same as in RC1.
 RC2 was allright, everything worked ok, but now in GM the same fault is
 happening again.

 Must i file a bug report?
 
 
 You have 64bit system? Check your gtk2 and glib2 versions.
 You can also have a look at my message in this list
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00303.html
 and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438870
 
 Here it works now with
 gtk2-2.12.0-5.2 and glib2-2.14.1-4
 
 ain
 


Arghh, works only in GNOME, not in KDE. In KDE hangs as all the time...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread Ain Vagula
Ain Vagula kirjutas:
 Ain Vagula kirjutas:
 M9. kirjutas:
 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
 turned into a zombie.
 Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
 After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
 be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
 reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- Hung.
 So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
 gets into.
 Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?
 I deleted the text and disgarded all, than i could shut down.
 But now i can not open a document from the open document icon.
 So it is the same as in RC1.
 RC2 was allright, everything worked ok, but now in GM the same fault is
 happening again.

 Must i file a bug report?

 You have 64bit system? Check your gtk2 and glib2 versions.
 You can also have a look at my message in this list
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00303.html
 and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438870

 Here it works now with
 gtk2-2.12.0-5.2 and glib2-2.14.1-4

 ain

 
 
 Arghh, works only in GNOME, not in KDE. In KDE hangs as all the time...
 

But after removing oo.o kde-integration package all works fine (I dont
use Novells or openSUSE OO.o if there is any difference...)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Incomplete suseboot directory in 10.3?

2007-10-08 Thread Manfred Tremmel
Am Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 schrieb Rajko M.:

 What is the reason not to use:
 ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/ppc
   install-initrd-1.0-228.ppc.rpm
   kernel-default-2.6.22.5-31.ppc.rpm

 It seems from the openSUSE article that it doesn't matter which
 initrd and kernel are used.

Sorry, doesn't work, too. I can boot using BootX and I get a menu to 
select installation properties, but there is no network and no access 
to the cd drive and I can't load any modules.
So it's not easy to install...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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Ain Vagula schreef:
 Ain Vagula kirjutas:
 Ain Vagula kirjutas:
 M9. kirjutas:
 M9. schreef:
 Hi,
 When i wanted to safe a just written document as, the app hung, and
 turned into a zombie.
 Only thing possible to get rid of it was reboot.
 After the restart, it came back with the message that a document had to
 be repaired. Ok. So it got repaired. Safe as: same procedure.
 reboot- repair- close Oo- Document has changed, want to safe? OK- 
 Hung.
 So now, i am not able to shut down Oo anymore, because of the loop it
 gets into.
 Anyone else got strange Oo behaviour in GM?
 I deleted the text and disgarded all, than i could shut down.
 But now i can not open a document from the open document icon.
 So it is the same as in RC1.
 RC2 was allright, everything worked ok, but now in GM the same fault is
 happening again.

 Must i file a bug report?
 You have 64bit system? Check your gtk2 and glib2 versions.
 You can also have a look at my message in this list
 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00303.html
 and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=438870

The same you describe in your message, is on my system too, and yes,
it's 64bit.
In RC2 it indeed worked for me allright, after an update from the
mentioned pkgs...



 Here it works now with
 gtk2-2.12.0-5.2 and glib2-2.14.1-4

 ain


 Arghh, works only in GNOME, not in KDE. In KDE hangs as all the time...


 But after removing oo.o kde-integration package all works fine (I dont
 use Novells or openSUSE OO.o if there is any difference...)

 ain

So you suggest the trouble must be in KDE?

I use the SuSE-version, because these have not caused any trouble for me
before...
I will look what happens if i also uninstall the integration pkgs, and
report here.
Are we the only ones with 64bit, having these troubles?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread M9.
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M9. schreef:
 
 
 Ain Vagula schreef:

 But after removing oo.o kde-integration package all works fine (I dont
 use Novells or openSUSE OO.o if there is any difference...)
 
 ain
 
 So you suggest the trouble must be in KDE?
 
 I use the SuSE-version, because these have not caused any trouble for me
 before...
 I will look what happens if i also uninstall the integration pkgs, and
 report here.

The kde-integration package does not exist on my machine, at least
nothing can be found in all the repos...;-(

 Are we the only ones with 64bit, having these troubles?
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Incomplete suseboot directory in 10.3?

2007-10-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 08 October 2007 01:12:58 pm Manfred Tremmel wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 schrieb Rajko M.:
  What is the reason not to use:
  ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/ppc
install-initrd-1.0-228.ppc.rpm
kernel-default-2.6.22.5-31.ppc.rpm
 
  It seems from the openSUSE article that it doesn't matter which
  initrd and kernel are used.

 Sorry, doesn't work, too. I can boot using BootX and I get a menu to
 select installation properties, but there is no network and no access
 to the cd drive and I can't load any modules.
 So it's not easy to install...

Than you have 2 ways left. 
Use 10.2 to install openSUSE and then you can upgrade, or install as dual 
boot, or create your own initrd that will include network and CD drivers. 

Maybe you can get some ideas using:
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal/OpenSUSE_Installation
 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Zypper shutdown command..

2007-10-08 Thread Lukas Ocilka
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M9. wrote:
 Zypper just exits when
 it's done with it's job, it doesn't care about your open applications.
 I think, that if you want to have a package manager, that is taken
 serious, there would be nothing against shutting down the pc, as it
 should be done, instead of letting it 'crash', what the hell: let it
 crash! These stupids have to learn how to shut down themselves!is
 not the right attitude dude..;-)
 A package manager installs the apps, so i think the least it could do ,
 is 'care' about them?

Please stop requesting such features, zypper will never do things that
can be solved by by other way.

zypper is a command-line tool. Command-line tools are always as simple
as possible just to let users to combine them to do more sophisticated
tasks.

BTW: If you want a package manager to restart/shutdown your system after
it is finished, please, make sure that you close your applications (and
save your work) before running the package manager.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-08 Thread Ain Vagula
M9. kirjutas:
 
 
 M9. schreef:
 
 Ain Vagula schreef:
 
 But after removing oo.o kde-integration package all works fine (I dont
 use Novells or openSUSE OO.o if there is any difference...)
 ain
 So you suggest the trouble must be in KDE?
 
 I use the SuSE-version, because these have not caused any trouble for me
 before...
 I will look what happens if i also uninstall the integration pkgs, and
 report here.
 
 The kde-integration package does not exist on my machine, at least
 nothing can be found in all the repos...;-(

In repos it is under name: OpenOffice_org-kde

KDE Extensions for OpenOffice.org
This package contains some KDE extensions for OpenOffice.org.

I remember that things got broken after KDE addressbook support was
added in oo.o community packages (of course there can be another reason)
and open/save is broken only in 64bit packages.

ain

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bad experience with 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Donn Washburn

Sid Boyce wrote:

Sid Boyce wrote:

Andras Mantia wrote:

On Saturday 06 October 2007, Sid Boyce wrote:

Interesting to see if there is a happy outcome from the bug report.
The result is that I fixed the system with the rescue option (chroot, 
manual rpm install, fix the software repository sources and other 
things). Now it seems to be stable, altough suspend2disk ceased to 
work (again) due to some changes in xorg.conf, but luckily after 
restroing my old xorg.conf it works. Probably there are also some 
other things that are not standard anymore on my system, but I can 
live with them now. ;) As soon as I run in bugs, I will report them.


Andras


I forgot about xorg.conf, backed it up now. scp'd across /etc/zypp. 
Perhaps later or tomorrow I shall go for the 10.2 to 10.3 upgrade via CD.

Regards
Sid.


The deed is done! The upgrade from the DVD complained of package 
integrity problems after nearly 1000 packages had been installed. 
Rebooted and chose only the online repos, it all went without a hitch, 
including Online Update.
Sound, Well done to the guys and gals working underground to make it 
happen, tell your bosses both a bonus and a salary rise are due.

Thanks and Regards
Sid.


I also have had a zypper upgrade problem.  Now KDE totally fails do to 
missing libs.  This is from fvwm2 and thunderbird because KDE 3.5.7. is 
missing about 20 lib.so.1s.  So, I am trying Yast2update and it is 
showing no resolvable dep. for yelp-#-i586.  Updates now a days seem be 
problems.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bad experience with 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Igor Jagec
On Pon, 2007-10-08 at 16:44 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote:

 I also have had a zypper upgrade problem.  Now KDE totally fails do to 
 missing libs.  This is from fvwm2 and thunderbird because KDE 3.5.7. is 
 missing about 20 lib.so.1s.  So, I am trying Yast2update and it is 
 showing no resolvable dep. for yelp-#-i586.  

I've also experienced problems while upgrading in the past, so I prefer
clean install. I have separate /home partition so clean install is not
such a problem for me.

 Updates now a days seem be problems.

I'm not sure there is a distro out there that can be upgraded without an
issue. Clean install is usually recommended method, no matter which
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bad experience with 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Sid Boyce

Donn Washburn wrote:

Sid Boyce wrote:

Sid Boyce wrote:

Andras Mantia wrote:

On Saturday 06 October 2007, Sid Boyce wrote:

Interesting to see if there is a happy outcome from the bug report.
The result is that I fixed the system with the rescue option 
(chroot, manual rpm install, fix the software repository sources and 
other things). Now it seems to be stable, altough suspend2disk 
ceased to work (again) due to some changes in xorg.conf, but luckily 
after restroing my old xorg.conf it works. Probably there are also 
some other things that are not standard anymore on my system, but 
I can live with them now. ;) As soon as I run in bugs, I will report 
them.


Andras


I forgot about xorg.conf, backed it up now. scp'd across /etc/zypp. 
Perhaps later or tomorrow I shall go for the 10.2 to 10.3 upgrade via 
CD.

Regards
Sid.


The deed is done! The upgrade from the DVD complained of package 
integrity problems after nearly 1000 packages had been installed. 
Rebooted and chose only the online repos, it all went without a hitch, 
including Online Update.
Sound, Well done to the guys and gals working underground to make it 
happen, tell your bosses both a bonus and a salary rise are due.

Thanks and Regards
Sid.


I also have had a zypper upgrade problem.  Now KDE totally fails do to 
missing libs.  This is from fvwm2 and thunderbird because KDE 3.5.7. is 
missing about 20 lib.so.1s.  So, I am trying Yast2update and it is 
showing no resolvable dep. for yelp-#-i586.  Updates now a days seem be 
problems.


What am I doing wrong? I haven't seen any of the problems reported. A 
friend has said he's keeping well clear of 10.3 and staying with 10.2 
because of problems with Alphas and Betas.
I have done upgrades, Alpha -- Beta -- RC -- GM on 2 x86_64 boxes, 
10.2 -- 10.3-GM on one x86_64 box and fresh installs on 2 x86 boxes and 
apart from the odd unresolved dependencies which were resolved, they all 
work fine, online updates and all, right up to a few hours ago on this 
x86_64 box.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Ben Kevan wrote:

Hi again Ken.

 Open YaST -- Software -- Community Repositories
   Check NVIDIA Repository -- Finish

   
I did that, but had not luck with it. I cannot continue before we have
written about it.
After Finish, i got a complain, that told me this:

http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidiarepo.jpg
But after, I could see that the repo had been set in the Software
repositories
http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidia2.jpg

Maybe the site contianing the repository is not fully build up yet ?.

This was how I did it so far.

CU

Erik
 Open Software Management --Filter DropDown Box choose Repositories
   Go to NVIDIA Repository install x11-video-nvidiaG01 and 
 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-(then your kernel type) , you can check your kernel type by 
 running uname -r at a terminal.

 Click Accept.. just for good measure reboot. And let us know how it goes.. 

 Oh, also be sure that you have disabled XGL by running the same command you 
 did before.. 


   

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[opensuse] How to change font colors in GRUB graphic menu?

2007-10-08 Thread Mark Goldstein
Hi,

I changed the background GRUB image for 10.3 (green background is too
unpleasant for me, maybe because I'm partially colorblind). But now
special menu items (help, language and profile) are white on almost
white background (there happened to be snow on my background image).

Is it possible to change the font color for these menu items?
I've seen a number of examples on the Net where gfxmenu command is
used together with color in menu.lst. I tried it and it appears
that color command only works for text mode menu and is ignored in
graphical mode.

Another small question (just curious): there are 2 files inside
message image, lang and languages. In my setup lang contains
en_US and languages contains just en.
But for some reason the language menu on the GRUB screen indicates F2
- Language English (UK). I've seen it in 10.3 Beta 3 and now it
happened again on GM installation.

Actually both questions are related to how the menu is displayed in
graphical mode.

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Re: [opensuse] No GUI in new 10.3 install

2007-10-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
Sax2 helped me get a GUI working, and after installing the ATI driver
I was able to enable 1680x1050 resolution. However, the settings are
reset each time I shut down the machine. I must first login to the
text console as user, then run sax2, and only then can I run startx.
And it 'forgets the 1680x1050 resolution each time. There is a lot of
output to the screen, I don't know if any of it is important, but it's
too much to write down. If someone could tell me where the appropriate
log is, I'll send it to the list. Thanks in advance.

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[opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread jdd

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidia2.jpg

if you try

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3

you will see that there is at least one other inside level necessary, 
depending of your hardware.


it's very often usefull to try to see the ftp tree before including 
it, (I had the problem of adding a RPM level sometime ago)


of course if so it's a bug...

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Erik Jakobsen
jdd wrote:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:

  http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidia2.jpg

 if you try

 ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3

 you will see that there is at least one other inside level necessary,
 depending of your hardware.

 it's very often usefull to try to see the ftp tree before including
 it, (I had the problem of adding a RPM level sometime ago)

 of course if so it's a bug...

 jdd


Oh sorry, I cannot follow what you mean :-(
Would you be nice and tell me it in details ?.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Ben Kevan wrote:

As can be seen here, the nvidia repos is not made:

http://www.urbakken.dk/reposdata.jpg

Erik
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Re: [opensuse] To all people who have JAVA problems, please read

2007-10-08 Thread Benji Weber
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 Jan:

 I have to strongly disagree.  That install makes it impossible to stay
 current for those of us who work on the cutting edge of Java and
 Netbeans.

Nonsense, I run netbeans daily builds, and have no problems whatsoever
using openSUSE java packages. These problems are in fact caused by
/sun/'s packages. Which amongst other problems install to non standard
locations.

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Re: [opensuse] fstab: umount as user

2007-10-08 Thread G T Smith
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Anders Johansson wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2007 14:23:50 G T Smith wrote:
 Unfortunately if you can disconnect a resource, you can also reconnect
 something else at the same point, and that could be a security issue. If
 the location is taken it makes it more difficult (but not impossible) to
 hijack.
 
 No you can't, because linux will only allow you to mount things as a user 
 when 
 permission is explicitly given in fstab. Which means the worst they could do 
 is remount the same resource
 
 If you think this is wrong, please give a concrete example of how it could be 
 done

What you say is true if you make the assumption that a workstation is
used by a single person only, or network resource access requirements
are fairly static on the workstation. /etc/fstab is a good secure
mechanism for(workstation based) global resources allocation, and on a
single user workstation can be used effectively for access to
personalised networks resources as well. While it is there it is nearly
impossible to break.

There are other environments where the above assumption are not the
case, and the /etc/fstab mechanism becomes inadequate.  In an
environment where people hotdesk rather than people being allocated
their own machine in particular, one starts hitting a number of problems
particularly in relation to cifs on *NIX (NFS does not really present a
problem).

If users have personalised resources on cifs shares the administrators
life has the potential to get rather interesting in this scenario.
Unless one wishes to create an /etc/fstab entry for every possible user
of a workstation, which is a potential administrative nightmare with
cifs (the maintenance of authentication credentials is a probable show
stopper in its own right here), the immediate option is a /etc/fstab
based configuration that could reduce administration by using a common
home mount point and a mechanism to correctly mount the users resources
at that point.

However this does present a practical problem in that for this to work
the user needs some sort of localised root access.  One of Linux's
strengths becomes a weakness in that for certain classes of activity one
needs a level of access that exceeds that which strictly required. In
effect one can find you have to break the security that the /etc/fstab
mechanism provides by removing its protection in order to get this to
work. In this situation another level of control is required to ensure
that some changes are not allowed to happen, (or at least take effect).
This is what I mean by there being a possible security issue.

The obvious alternative approach of entering via a common server
directory and using server access rights to limit visibility presents
other issues in a mixed Windows/Linux environment.

pam_mount on paper should deal with this issue for common connections.
(it also does not require /etc/fstab entries according to the
documentation), and is potentially a much neater way of handling a user
login to a cifs share as a home directory and disconnecting when the
user logs out. However, as at the moment I do not think it can deal with
conditional mounts. so in a situation where a user has access to
resources not only defined by who they are. but their role in the
organisation, and where they are; this on its own is not a complete
solution. (Fortunately few have to worry about this one).

At the momemt AFAIK a network level of control is only an option with
Windows based workstations running with AD or NDS. (IIRC Kerberos was
part of the athena project to bring this together for *NIX world a
couple of decades ago but to what extent it is now more than
authentication mechanism I am uncertain about).

In some ways it is fortunate that Samba is most often used to integrate
*NIX server resources in a largely Windows environments at the moment.


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[opensuse] jboss4-common = 4.0.4.GA is needed, can t find this package

2007-10-08 Thread Ralf Prengel
Hallo,

has anyone a hint where to find jboss4-common = 4.0.4.GA


linux:/tmp # rpm -i jboss4-ejb-4.0.4.GA-19.noarch.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
jboss4-common = 4.0.4.GA is needed by jboss4-ejb-4.0.4.GA-19.noarch


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Re: [opensuse] ati mobility dual head 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

On Friday, October 05, 2007 at 22:38:12, primm wrote:

 10.3 broke my dual head setup. My 1280x1024 monitor attached to my 1280x800 
 acer portable will now only serve 1024x768 to the external monitor. Setting 
 the dual head to 1280x1024 gives me only 1280x800. No matter which 
 combination of monitors and frequencies I try.  Replacing 
 the /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the 10.2 one gives the same results. What a pain.
 
 Can anyone help?

There is some quirk regarding rr in the display manager settings. Play
around with DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_* Here it helped to unset 
DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_VGA completeley. Our X team is aware of that..

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] fstab: umount as user

2007-10-08 Thread G T Smith
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Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2007 02:17:00 am G T Smith wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Saturday 06 October 2007 01:25:29 am G T Smith wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Friday 05 October 2007 01:51:10 am G T Smith wrote:
 [snip]
 snip



snip

 My first question is why do this? The funny thing about cifs is this
 kind of event is supposed to be handled anyway. Provided you are not
 actually modifying something on the cifs mount when the server end shuts
   ^^
 down you should not get too many problems.
 
 So you're saying that when i copy files on my cifs share it finishes up the 
 whole copy process as soon as my server system gets shutdown, right?

snip
 

er.. not quite...

It most cases once it is copied, it is on the server (whether you can
use it or not is a different story, Windows style file locking can
generate its own form of grief :-) )... I dont think you can relate a
client server network connection to a removable media device, the server
should be aware of what is connected to it and negotiate a clean
disconnect with connected clients when shutting down... AFAIK the
intelligent(?) USB stick has not yet been made :-)

However, we are talking real world and what is likely to happen is a bit
more complex than that, depends whether you are talking to a Windows or
Samba server, what the cacheing setup is and some other factors ... if
the client for any reason does not negotiate quickly enough the server
will pull the plug and the result could be messy but I doubt whether a
client end umount would avoid that particular problem...


 Thanks lots!
 Ron


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[opensuse] suse 7.3 download

2007-10-08 Thread Roland Turcan
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Could somebody tell me, that where I can download this ancient
distribution.

Thanks.

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[opensuse] wifi: linksys wusb54gc setup

2007-10-08 Thread Roman Makurin
Hi All!

I`m new to opensuse. I`ve got Linksys WUSB-54GC USB WiFi adapter. What I
need to do to set it up properly in suse way ?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread jdd

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

jdd wrote:

Erik Jakobsen wrote:


http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidia2.jpg

if you try

ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3



Oh sorry, I cannot follow what you mean :-(
Would you be nice and tell me it in details ?.

TIA


in the directory you had, there is this:

NameSizeLast Modified
i58601.10.2007  22:35:00
repodata01.10.2007  22:35:00
x86_64  01.10.2007  22:35:00
File:NVIDIA-LICENSE

I don't know what is the repodata folder (may be this is the problem), 
but usually one don't have together i586 and x86_64 folders together 
and have to choose one.


forgive me if there something new I missed (anyway, you can grab th 
rpm's there)


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[opensuse] ejabberd for opensuse 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Roman Makurin
Hi All!

Is there any ejabberd repo for opensuse 10.3 ? Or where can I get
ejabberd related packages for 10.3 ? I found packages only for 10.2 :(


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Re: [opensuse] ejabberd for opensuse 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2007-10-08 13:27:27 +0400, Roman Makurin wrote:
 Is there any ejabberd repo for opensuse 10.3 ? Or where can I get
 ejabberd related packages for 10.3 ? I found packages only for 10.2 :(

in case you refer to 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/languages:/erlang/
the erlang and ejabberd package fail for some weird reasons atm and
Peter or me still need to fix it. i will ping you once the packages got
fixed.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 not detecting SATA HD

2007-10-08 Thread Nathaniel Dube
On Sunday 07 October 2007 21:40, Muhammad Rivai wrote:
 On 10/8/07, Nathaniel Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would seem I'm not the only one having the same problem.
 
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39625
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39621

 I've trying with another computer with SATA harddisk and OpenSUSE 10.3
 installed very well. It looks like that sata_sis driver has broken,
 and the problem occured with this driver only.

 Vavai
That's what I figured.  If this was Windows I would just download a driver 
that worked.  Because the driver's in Linux are modules of the kernel I have 
no idea how to fix something like this.  You would think the kernel 
developers would find an easier way so us simple users could easily upgrade 
or replace broken drivers. But noOoo!


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Re: [opensuse] does the installer collect sshd keys from previous install

2007-10-08 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Saturday 06 October 2007 23:56:20 Aleksander Kamenik ste napísal:
 Hi,

 I installed opensuse 10.3 on a box which had another old suse distro on
 it. I did a new install (not upgrade), custom partitioned the drive etc.

 To my surprise the sshd keypairs are the same as from the old install (I
 checked against a backup). So does the installer collect them while
 inspecting the drives and then installs them?

 Nice feature if so, something very wrong if not.

 I used the i386 KDE CD of OpenSuse 10.3.

IIRC YaST does that.

Stano
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 not detecting SATA HD

2007-10-08 Thread Nathaniel Dube
On Sunday 07 October 2007 21:40, Muhammad Rivai wrote:
 On 10/8/07, Nathaniel Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would seem I'm not the only one having the same problem.
 
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39625
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39621

 I've trying with another computer with SATA harddisk and OpenSUSE 10.3
 installed very well. It looks like that sata_sis driver has broken,
 and the problem occured with this driver only.

 Vavai
That's what I figured.  If this was Windows I would just download a driver 
that worked.  Because the driver's in Linux are modules of the kernel I have 
no idea how to fix something like this.  You would think the kernel 
developers would find an easier way so us simple users could easily upgrade 
or replace broken drivers. But noOoo!


PS

Sorry if this gets sent twice.  I had a brain fart with the addresses at the 
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[opensuse] DVD and mount failure 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Ricardo Sánchez
Hi all:

I had to upgrade 10.2 to 10.3 from an iso image stored on a local drive
since the installer would lose the dvd after the initial load. The
upgrade went smoothly after removing some non-official packages.

When the installation finished I realized that the dvd units were not
longer accessible. Actually when introducing a DVO/VD in the drive, the
HAL daemon reports mount: block device /dev/sr1 is write-protected,
mounting read-only. mount: Not a directory.

Mounting from the shell gives the same error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo  mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr1 /media/dvdram2
mount: block device /dev/sr1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: Not a directory

I don't think it's a matter or permissions:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /dev/sr*
brw-rw+ 1 root disk 11, 0 2007-10-07 13:40 /dev/sr0
brw-rw+ 1 root disk 11, 1 2007-10-07 13:40 /dev/sr1

dmesg indicates:

sr 0:0:1:0: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK
sr 0:0:1:0: [sr1] Sense Key : Hardware Error [current]
sr 0:0:1:0: [sr1] Add. Sense: Logical unit communication CRC error
(Ultra-DMA/32)
end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 72

When booting opensuse using the previous version of the kernel (2.6.19
vanilla, compiled in 10.2 with gcc4.1) both of my dvd drives are
recognized and work (at least I can read from them).

The devices are 2 LG RW DVD drives:
6ata1.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GSA-H22N, 1.00, max UDMA/66
6ata1.01: ATAPI: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GSA-H22N, 1.00, max UDMA/66

Questions:
- is this a bug in the current version of the kernel?
- do I need to I load a disk controller for them? (if so, where and how?)
- do I have to recompile the kernel adding new drivers for these units?
(hope not, but if so which ones?)

Further, I cannot add a local iso image from yast as a repo. The error
message is

unable to create repository from URL
'iso:/?iso=openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-x86_64.isourl=file:///home/rleal/'
Error trying to read from
iso:?iso=openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-x86_64.isourl=file:///home/rleal/

History:
- Failed to mount /home/rleal/openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso on
/var/adm/mount/AP_0x0004d: Unable to verify that the media was mounted.
Try again?

The workaround was to mount the image manually and add the repo as a
local directory.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse] Suggestion about package management and GNOME apps menu

2007-10-08 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Saturday 06 October 2007 02:34:42 Branko Vukelic ste napísal:
 On 10/6/07, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If the intention is to remove the menu reference, the package manager is
  not needed. If the intention is to remove an application from disk, then
  yes, you need the full package manager, which should then check whether
  that will break dependencies.

 In case of package removal, does it also need to check the on-line
 repositories? 

Yes. In extreme example, removing an application might mean installing a 
different one. And noone can tell before the package manager really evaluates 
what does the removal really means from the package point of view.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Erik Jakobsen
jdd wrote:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:
 jdd wrote:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 http://www.urbakken.dk/nvidia2.jpg
 if you try

 ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3

 Oh sorry, I cannot follow what you mean :-(
 Would you be nice and tell me it in details ?.

 TIA

 in the directory you had, there is this:

 Name  Size  Last Modified
 i586 01.10.2007 22:35:00
 repodata 01.10.2007 22:35:00
 x86_64 01.10.2007 22:35:00
 File:NVIDIA-LICENSE

 I don't know what is the repodata folder (may be this is the problem),
 but usually one don't have together i586 and x86_64 folders together
 and have to choose one.

 forgive me if there something new I missed (anyway, you can grab th
 rpm's there)

 jdd

I have tried to also add i586 to the path, but it didn't helped.
I would download the rpm's from the i586 directory, but my kernel is :

2.6.22.5-31-default #1 SMP 2007/09/21 22:29:00 UTC i686 athlon i386

And the wanted nvidia file is:
nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-1.0.9639_2.6.22.5_30-0.1.i586.rpm
ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/10.3/i586/nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-1.0.9639_2.6.22.5_30-0.1.i586.rpm

Don't think that matches ?

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 not detecting SATA HD

2007-10-08 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Monday 08 October 2007 10:39, Nathaniel Dube wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2007 21:40, Muhammad Rivai wrote:
  On 10/8/07, Nathaniel Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It would seem I'm not the only one having the same problem.
  
   http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39625
   http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39621
 
  I've trying with another computer with SATA harddisk and OpenSUSE 10.3
  installed very well. It looks like that sata_sis driver has broken,
  and the problem occured with this driver only.
 
  Vavai

 That's what I figured.  If this was Windows I would just download a driver
 that worked.  Because the driver's in Linux are modules of the kernel I
 have no idea how to fix something like this.  You would think the kernel
 developers would find an easier way so us simple users could easily upgrade
 or replace broken drivers. But noOoo!

You would think the hardware manufacturers might release suitable information 
or source code so that Open Source systems developers might be able to make 
them work with free software. And that those using Open Source systems might 
figure out where it is that the problem is coming from.

But noOoo!


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 Sorry if this gets sent twice.  I had a brain fart with the addresses at
 the top. :-s

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread jdd

Erik Jakobsen wrote:


Don't think that matches ?


worth a try :-)
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Re: [opensuse] No GUI in new 10.3 install

2007-10-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 08 October 2007 02:57:28 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Sax2 helped me get a GUI working, and after installing the ATI driver
 I was able to enable 1680x1050 resolution. However, the settings are
 reset each time I shut down the machine. I must first login to the
 text console as user, then run sax2, and only then can I run startx.
 And it 'forgets the 1680x1050 resolution each time. There is a lot of
 output to the screen, I don't know if any of it is important, but it's
 too much to write down. If someone could tell me where the appropriate
 log is, I'll send it to the list. Thanks in advance.

 Dotan Cohen

The /var/log/xorg.0.log  is the last run log, so you have to save it before 
you run sax2 or startx. 

If configuration 'forgets' settings you may also save /etc/xorg.conf before 
running sax2 and than again before startx. Compare them. 

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Re: [opensuse] To all people who have JAVA problems, please read

2007-10-08 Thread Damon Register

Peter Van Lone wrote:

On 10/7/07, Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wow!

Should have known that one.

Just out of curiosity - what menu in GNOME is that under? Do we have it in
KDE?



ROFLMAO!

Now you have gotten me curious.  Why is this funny?

Damon Register

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[opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,

I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 

The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
error comes up:
vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.


Any ideas?

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Re: [opensuse] To all people who have JAVA problems, please read

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 15:36 -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
 Lior Avital escribió:
 
  Java problems are caused because of bad integration with Gnome.
  
 
 JAVA has nothing to do with GNOME, what are you talking about ?
 
 hint: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 will do the trick in case you
 get  xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed or
 similar.
 
 
From my post today I asked:
I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 

The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
error comes up:
vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.


I followed the hint:

:~/ vmware
vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.

:~/5 export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1

now I get:

:~/ vmware
vmware: xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) -
(dpy-request)) = 0)' failed.

:-(
Al




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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1  OpenSUSE 10.3 GM
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:55:56 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

 I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
 It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 

 The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
 error comes up:
 vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.

 Any ideas?

Upgrade to 6.0.1.

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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 


The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
error comes up:
vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.


Any ideas?



I have no idea about vmware, but I have seen this error mentioned 
earlier today on this list, in the thread about JAVA problems:


On Sunday 07 October 2007 12:36, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
  Lior Avital escribió:
   Java problems are caused because of bad integration with Gnome.
 
  JAVA has nothing to do with GNOME, what are you talking about ?
 
  hint: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 will do the trick in case you
  get  xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' 
failed or

  similar.

May be worth a try.

Best regards
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[opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Aniruddha
Coming from Gentoo I wonder how do I keep openSUSE secure (e.g. for
rootkits)? In Gentoo there is one repository with 11.000+ packages which
are all checked for vulnerabilities and verified with shasum.

In contrast openSUSE has many different repositories (Packman, Guru
etc). I assume these are trusted resources. How can I tell if these
rpm's are tampered with? 

How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? Is accepting
these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? And if
so how can I tell these are the correct keys?

What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?

And my last question; where do I find security information for openSUSE?
Is there a news site or mailinglist with announcement about security
threats and vulnerabilities?

I ask these questions because I am planning to sell openSUSE 10.3 on
retail pc's through my company. I want the make sure I get all the pro's
and cons of openSUSE security wise before doing so.

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Aniruddha


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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 20:12 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
 Hello,
 
 In the Message; 
 
   Subject: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1  OpenSUSE 10.3 GM
   Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date  Time: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:55:56 +0200
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:
 
  I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
  It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 
 
  The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
  error comes up:
  vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.
 
  Any ideas?
 
 Upgrade to 6.0.1.
 

I don't like these M$ tricks like having to upgrade and pay thru-ye-neck
again. I do not have to buy my car back every time it needs a service!

Surely there is another solution. 

I tried a suggestion by Cristian Rodriguez:

hint: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 will do the trick in case you
get  xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed or
similar.

but now have the error:
vmware: xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) -
(dpy-request)) = 0)' failed.

:-(


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Re: [opensuse] No GUI in new 10.3 install

2007-10-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 08/10/2007, Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 08 October 2007 02:57:28 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
  Sax2 helped me get a GUI working, and after installing the ATI driver
  I was able to enable 1680x1050 resolution. However, the settings are
  reset each time I shut down the machine. I must first login to the
  text console as user, then run sax2, and only then can I run startx.
  And it 'forgets the 1680x1050 resolution each time. There is a lot of
  output to the screen, I don't know if any of it is important, but it's
  too much to write down. If someone could tell me where the appropriate
  log is, I'll send it to the list. Thanks in advance.
 
  Dotan Cohen

 The /var/log/xorg.0.log  is the last run log, so you have to save it before
 you run sax2 or startx.

 If configuration 'forgets' settings you may also save /etc/xorg.conf before
 running sax2 and than again before startx. Compare them.

 --
 Regards,
 Rajko.

Thanks. Once I have a known-working xorg.conf, could I just make it
read-only, so that it will not get overwritten and the known-good
settings will stay?

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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 10/08/2007 07:21 PM, Aniruddha wrote:
 Coming from Gentoo I wonder how do I keep openSUSE secure (e.g. for
 rootkits)? In Gentoo there is one repository with 11.000+ packages which
 are all checked for vulnerabilities and verified with shasum.

 In contrast openSUSE has many different repositories (Packman, Guru
 etc). I assume these are trusted resources. How can I tell if these
 rpm's are tampered with? 
   
use Yast to install your packages.  It checks the gpg signatures to
verify every package installed.
 How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? 
repository files are signed as well as each package.  These are also
checked by Yast.
 Is accepting
 these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? 
Depends on your paranoia.  You could also check the authenticity before
accepting, but remember that is only the authenticity of the files that
describe the contents to yast, NOT the packages themselves.  They are
signed and checked independently.
 And if
 so how can I tell these are the correct keys?
   
They are usually published on the web sites and or via the gpg key servers.
 What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
 downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?
   
Only get packages from trusted sources.  If it isn't available, ask or
build it yourself.  You can download the src rpms and build it on your
machine and check it to be sure.
 And my last question; where do I find security information for openSUSE?
   
Yast Online Update
 Is there a news site or mailinglist with announcement about security
 threats and vulnerabilities?
   
Yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I ask these questions because I am planning to sell openSUSE 10.3 on
 retail pc's through my company. I want the make sure I get all the pro's
 and cons of openSUSE security wise before doing so.

   
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Re: [opensuse] bcm43xx and WEP

2007-10-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:43:23 +0200
fazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi eweryone
 
 I have the same problem from 10.1 to 10.3.
 
 I'm using WiFi with WEP encryption and not open but shared key
 
 Right now I'm using ndiswrapeer to handle it.
 
 Is  someone found solution how to use bcm43xx with shose kind of settings

I had it working find on 10.2 as well as on Ubuntu on my laptop. 
The bcm43xx native driver is installed and loaded, but you will notice
that the firmware is not installed. What you need to do is to download
BCMWL5.SYS, then use bcm43xx-fwcutter to extract the firmware. fwcutter
has an option to install the firmware, but it usually goes
into /lib/modules/kernel version/firmware.
Once I did this on my laptop, it came right up.. I was then able to use
YaST to enter the WEP key. Currently on Ubuntu, I am using Netmanager
because I operate on several networks. 

I do have the firmware, and can send it as an attachment if you want
it, but it is not on this computer.

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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread Rui Santos


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 Hi all,

 I wanted to install a VMWare Workstation 5.5.1 on OpenSUSE 10.3.
 It worked well under OpenSUSE 10.2. 

 The installation goes well, but when VMWare is started the following
 error comes up:
 vmware: xcb_xlib.c:52: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.


 Any ideas?
   

Have you tried with V5.5.5 ?
Have you tried the vmware-any-to-any v113 at
http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update113.tar.gz ?


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[opensuse] linux/version.h in kernel sources missing

2007-10-08 Thread Oliver Triebl

Hello!

I already sent that post to
opensuse.org.suse-linux.support.install-configure-administration
but it seems to be not so frequently visited, so I try it again here:

I tried to install VMWare Server 1.0.4 using Suse 10.3 32-bit. The
Kernel module doesn't want to compile, because the file version.h in
the kernel source folder (/usr/src/linux/include/linux/) is missing. I
checked all my other available Suse Installations, on all installations 
(Suse 10.2 and 10.0) this file exists, except on my two Suse 10.3 (one 
default-kernel and one bigsmp-kernel) installations.


Does anybody know where I can find this file or what I am doing wrong?

Thank you,

Oliver.

(Vienna, Austria)
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Re: [opensuse] To all people who have JAVA problems, please read

2007-10-08 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 10/8/07, Damon Register [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now you have gotten me curious.  Why is this funny?


because it was so droll ... and because the post it was in response to
was so arrogant and assuming, but probably did not realize it. Because
very possibly the OP would need a gui/menu item or some context within
which to make use of the arrogant repy.

And the response just very clearly exposed all of that, with ease and wit.

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Re: [opensuse] linux/version.h in kernel sources missing

2007-10-08 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 8 2007 13:57, Oliver Triebl wrote:

 I tried to install VMWare Server 1.0.4 using Suse 10.3 32-bit. The
 Kernel module doesn't want to compile, because the file version.h in
 the kernel source folder (/usr/src/linux/include/linux/) is missing.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 97 Oct  7 21:20
/lib/modules/2.6.22.9-ccj56-rt/build/include/linux/version.h

Got kernel-source?
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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:21:47PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
 Coming from Gentoo I wonder how do I keep openSUSE secure (e.g. for
 rootkits)? In Gentoo there is one repository with 11.000+ packages which
 are all checked for vulnerabilities and verified with shasum.
 
 In contrast openSUSE has many different repositories (Packman, Guru
 etc). I assume these are trusted resources. How can I tell if these
 rpm's are tampered with? 

From the SUSE Security team perspective, only the official
repositories (OSS, Non-OSS and the Update) repos are fully ensured
and updated with security fixes. The GPG keys for those are checked
and are already on the CD/DVD.

The buildservice hosts packages by any user who wants to build them,
here you have to mostly trust the repository and its packagers.
There is no SUSE ensurance for it.
There is 1 global buildservice key, but this will be changed to 1 key
per buildservice repo.

packman and others have dedicated developers not working for SUSE usually
and you have to decide whether to trust them.

 How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? Is accepting
 these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? And if
 so how can I tell these are the correct keys?

SUSE repos - no import dialog should appear, the keys are preconfigured.

other repos - the id and the fingerprint is shown and you should review
them (and can fetch the key in another shell and use GPG to check it).

 What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
 downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?

Difficult, because you dont really know what is in those RPMs.

 And my last question; where do I find security information for openSUSE?
 Is there a news site or mailinglist with announcement about security
 threats and vulnerabilities?

Others mentioned our mailinglists, opensuse-security and 
opensuse-security-announce
reachable from http://lists.opensuse.org . Also check
http://www.novell.com/linux/security/securitysupport.html

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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Aniruddha
Hi Joe,

Thank you for your answers! 

May I conclude that is is safe to accept gnupg keys from repositories in
yast2 - Community Repositories ? 

What do you mean with the packages... are signed and checked
independently? Does this mean the repo owner checks the packages for
vulnerabilities and yast only checks if the contents matches with the
signature of the repo owner?


Which trusted sources for (source) rpm's do you recommend?

Thanks again.

Regard,

Aniruddha

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 19:41 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: 
 On 10/08/2007 07:21 PM, Aniruddha wrote:
  Coming from Gentoo I wonder how do I keep openSUSE secure (e.g. for
  rootkits)? In Gentoo there is one repository with 11.000+ packages which
  are all checked for vulnerabilities and verified with shasum.
 
  In contrast openSUSE has many different repositories (Packman, Guru
  etc). I assume these are trusted resources. How can I tell if these
  rpm's are tampered with? 

 use Yast to install your packages.  It checks the gpg signatures to
 verify every package installed.
  How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? 
 repository files are signed as well as each package.  These are also
 checked by Yast.
  Is accepting
  these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? 
 Depends on your paranoia.  You could also check the authenticity before
 accepting, but remember that is only the authenticity of the files that
 describe the contents to yast, NOT the packages themselves.  They are
 signed and checked independently.
  And if
  so how can I tell these are the correct keys?

 They are usually published on the web sites and or via the gpg key servers.
  What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
  downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?

 Only get packages from trusted sources.  If it isn't available, ask or
 build it yourself.  You can download the src rpms and build it on your
 machine and check it to be sure.
  And my last question; where do I find security information for openSUSE?

 Yast Online Update
  Is there a news site or mailinglist with announcement about security
  threats and vulnerabilities?

 Yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I ask these questions because I am planning to sell openSUSE 10.3 on
  retail pc's through my company. I want the make sure I get all the pro's
  and cons of openSUSE security wise before doing so.
 

 HTH
 
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[opensuse] Xen kernel fails with panic

2007-10-08 Thread Roland Carlsson

Hi!

I have a new HP DL140 G3 with 5GB RAM (2+2+1+1) that I have installed 
OpenSuse 10.3 on. Since the machine is going to be virtualized running 
atleast 2 more sessions I installed Yast-VM and then the XEN support. 
(Everything thourgh yast). The system said that I could restart my 
machine and use the XEN-kernel.


When restarting I get the following message (quite earliy in the startup)

BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c11c5c8

a little bit later

Oops: 0003 [#1]

and at the end

Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

Is there anythinig I can do to make this work or do I have to wait for 
an updated XEN?


Thanks in advance
Roland Carlsson


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[opensuse] problem with raid suse 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Srdjan Radosavljevic
Hi,
i do have a problem with installing raid 0+1 on Asus P5K-E wifi/ap with Intel 
ICH9R southe bridge. I have four sata disks and i want to create raid 0+1 but 
my suse 10.3 sees only 1 sata disk ? Any ideas ?


tnx

srle
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Sunny
On 10/8/07, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in the directory you had, there is this:

 NameSizeLast Modified
 i58601.10.2007  22:35:00
 repodata01.10.2007  22:35:00
 x86_64  01.10.2007  22:35:00
 File:NVIDIA-LICENSE

 I don't know what is the repodata folder (may be this is the problem),
 but usually one don't have together i586 and x86_64 folders together
 and have to choose one.

 forgive me if there something new I missed (anyway, you can grab th
 rpm's there)


The new rpm-md format for repositories (new since 10.0 I guess),
contains all architectures, and the repodata contains the description
of the what's in the repo. Yast will get the right rpm for your
architecture.

Anyway, looks like the repo was broken when he tried, he'll have to
try again later.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse-security] Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:12:02PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
 Hi Joe,
 
 Thank you for your answers! 
 
 May I conclude that is is safe to accept gnupg keys from repositories in
 yast2 - Community Repositories ? 
 
 What do you mean with the packages... are signed and checked
 independently? Does this mean the repo owner checks the packages for
 vulnerabilities and yast only checks if the contents matches with the
 signature of the repo owner?
 
 
 Which trusted sources for (source) rpm's do you recommend?

The community packages are provided ... by our community. 

So in the end you have to decide how much you trust our judgement
to decide on good community members.;)

The repository owner is responsible for the security fixes, SUSE Security
does that only for the official SUSE repositories.

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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 12:55 +0100, Rui Santos wrote:
 

 Have you tried with V5.5.5 ?

I only have 5.5.1. Is there a free 5.5.5 Upgrade when I only have a
5.5.1 Licence?

 Have you tried the vmware-any-to-any v113 at
 http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update113.tar.gz ?
 

Yes

 
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1  OpenSUSE 10.3 GM
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:24:20 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

 Upgrade to 6.0.1.
 

 I don't like these M$ tricks like having to upgrade and pay thru-ye-neck
 again. I do not have to buy my car back every time it needs a service!

Ok.

 Surely there is another solution. 

 I tried a suggestion by Cristian Rodriguez:

 hint: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 will do the trick in case you
 get  xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed or
 similar.

 but now have the error:
 vmware: xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) -
 (dpy-request)) = 0)' failed.

You've got a java's bug.

This may solve the prolblem.

1. search libmawt.so in the java.

  Maybe, it's in the

  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update2/jre/lib/xawt

(I don't know because mine is x86_64 system.)

2. cd /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update2/jre/lib/xawt

3. cp -p libmawt.so libmawt.so.orig

4. sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g' libmawt.so
 
Then try to start VMware.

HTH,

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Re: [opensuse-security] Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Aniruddha
Thanks for clarifying that :).  Do you happen to know where I can manage
(verify, delete etc.) imported gnupg keys?

Thanks!

Regards,

Aniruddha


On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 14:22 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:12:02PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
  Hi Joe,
  
  Thank you for your answers! 
  
  May I conclude that is is safe to accept gnupg keys from repositories in
  yast2 - Community Repositories ? 
  
  What do you mean with the packages... are signed and checked
  independently? Does this mean the repo owner checks the packages for
  vulnerabilities and yast only checks if the contents matches with the
  signature of the repo owner?
  
  
  Which trusted sources for (source) rpm's do you recommend?
 
 The community packages are provided ... by our community. 
 
 So in the end you have to decide how much you trust our judgement
 to decide on good community members.;)
 
 The repository owner is responsible for the security fixes, SUSE Security
 does that only for the official SUSE repositories.
 
 Ciao, Marcus
 


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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread darko g
On 10/8/07, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? Is accepting
  these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? And if
  so how can I tell these are the correct keys?

 SUSE repos - no import dialog should appear, the keys are preconfigured.

 other repos - the id and the fingerprint is shown and you should review
 them (and can fetch the key in another shell and use GPG to check it).

  What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
  downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?


Hello, where does Yast keep the keys?

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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:34:36AM -0400, darko g wrote:
 On 10/8/07, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   How do I safely use the gnupg key system for repositories? Is accepting
   these keys when adding repositories with yast the preferred way? And if
   so how can I tell these are the correct keys?
 
  SUSE repos - no import dialog should appear, the keys are preconfigured.
 
  other repos - the id and the fingerprint is shown and you should review
  them (and can fetch the key in another shell and use GPG to check it).
 
   What about rootkits? How do I protect my system for rootkits when
   downloading rpm's from sites such as rpmbone?
 
 
 Hello, where does Yast keep the keys?

In the RPM database.

rpm -qa|grep gpg-pubkey

You can remove them with rpm -e for instance.

There is no GUI for it yet.

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[opensuse] MD5SUM on GM

2007-10-08 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi,

Just downloaded the x86_64 iso for 10.2 GM, the checksum matches the
iso image but if i burn it and do a md5sum /dev/sr0 i get a
different checksum. Tried also the media test option within the
installation and it returns Aceptar in a bad spanish (wrong word at
least) but i assume it means it was OK.

So, should i proceed anyway?

Ciro
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[opensuse] Re: MD5SUM on GM

2007-10-08 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/10/8, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Just downloaded the x86_64 iso for 10.2 GM, the checksum matches the
 iso image but if i burn it and do a md5sum /dev/sr0 i get a
 different checksum. Tried also the media test option within the
 installation and it returns Aceptar in a bad spanish (wrong word at
 least) but i assume it means it was OK.

 So, should i proceed anyway?

 Ciro

Sorry, it should read 10.3 GM.

Regards,
Ciro
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Re: [opensuse] problem with raid suse 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread darko g
in the bios, do you have it set to raid or native?

On 10/8/07, Srdjan Radosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 i do have a problem with installing raid 0+1 on Asus P5K-E wifi/ap with Intel
 ICH9R southe bridge. I have four sata disks and i want to create raid 0+1 but
 my suse 10.3 sees only 1 sata disk ? Any ideas ?


 tnx

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Re: [opensuse] problem with raid suse 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Srdjan Radosavljevic
Hi/Cao :)
tnx for reply yes offcourse i have setup up raid,here is more info about it,
when i try to create raid 0 only or raid 1 only everything works just fine,but 
when i try to create raid 0 + 1 then i get a problem.

Ideas ?

On Monday 08 October 2007 14:41, you wrote:
 in the bios, do you have it set to raid or native?

 On 10/8/07, Srdjan Radosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  i do have a problem with installing raid 0+1 on Asus P5K-E wifi/ap with
  Intel ICH9R southe bridge. I have four sata disks and i want to create
  raid 0+1 but my suse 10.3 sees only 1 sata disk ? Any ideas ?
 
 
  tnx
 
  srle
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Re: [opensuse] No GUI in new 10.3 install

2007-10-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 08 October 2007 06:31:27 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
 On 08/10/2007, Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Monday 08 October 2007 02:57:28 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
   Sax2 helped me get a GUI working, and after installing the ATI driver
   I was able to enable 1680x1050 resolution. However, the settings are
   reset each time I shut down the machine. 

I have forgotten to ask what program you have used to change resolution. 

   I must first login to the 
   text console as user, then run sax2, and only then can I run startx.
   And it 'forgets the 1680x1050 resolution each time. There is a lot of
   output to the screen, I don't know if any of it is important, but it's
   too much to write down. If someone could tell me where the appropriate
   log is, I'll send it to the list. Thanks in advance.
  
   Dotan Cohen
 
  The /var/log/xorg.0.log  is the last run log, so you have to save it
  before you run sax2 or startx.
 
  If configuration 'forgets' settings you may also save /etc/xorg.conf

It is /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log , sorry for typos.

  before running sax2 and than again before startx. Compare them.

 Thanks. Once I have a known-working xorg.conf, could I just make it
 read-only, so that it will not get overwritten and the known-good
 settings will stay?

You can, but better make copy, for instance, /etc/X11/xorg.conf-1680 or 
whatever is easy to remember instead of 1680, so that you can always copy 
back to /etc/X11/xorg.conf if necessary. That way you have comfort to change 
file at will, but if it doesn't work it is easy to restore to working status. 

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 not detecting SATA HD

2007-10-08 Thread Nathaniel Dube
On Monday 08 October 2007 05:21, Fergus Wilde wrote:
 You would think the hardware manufacturers might release suitable
 information or source code so that Open Source systems developers might be
 able to make them work with free software. And that those using Open Source
 systems might figure out where it is that the problem is coming from.

 But noOoo!

Tooshay! :-)


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[opensuse] Kino

2007-10-08 Thread Bob
In 10.2 I used to use kino for video editing, but I can't find it in the 
OSS/non-OSS/Packman repositories for 10.3.

Anyone know where I could find it, or another, similar program?
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Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 10/08/2007 08:35 PM, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 In the RPM database.

 rpm -qa|grep gpg-pubkey

 You can remove them with rpm -e for instance.

 There is no GUI for it yet.

 Ciao, Marcus
   
Kpackage works a treat as a GUI for rpm and especially the keys.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 not detecting SATA HD

2007-10-08 Thread Bob
On Monday 08 October 2007 03:40:38 Muhammad Rivai wrote:
 On 10/8/07, Nathaniel Dube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would seem I'm not the only one having the same problem.
 
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39625
  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?act=STf=20t=39621

 I've trying with another computer with SATA harddisk and OpenSUSE 10.3
 installed very well. It looks like that sata_sis driver has broken,
 and the problem occured with this driver only.

 Vavai

I have the same problem. Foxconn motherboard (SiS), first hard drive IDE, 
second hard drive SATA. This is the relevant part of my start up log, from 
dmesg - I see the SATA entries are both trying to use IRQ 17, but don't know 
enough to know if that's a problem:

SCSI subsystem initialized
libata version 3.00 loaded.
pata_sis :00:02.5: version 0.5.2
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:02.5[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
scsi0 : pata_sis
scsi1 : pata_sis
ata1: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x000103f6 bmdma 0x00014000 irq 14
ata2: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00010170 ctl 0x00010376 bmdma 0x00014008 irq 15
ata1.00: ATA-7: SAMSUNG HD300LD, WK100-12, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 586072368 sectors, multi 16: LBA48
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
ata2.00: ATAPI: SONYDVD RW DRU-700A, VY03, max UDMA/33
ata2.01: ATAPI: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-230A, 1.01, max UDMA/33
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  SAMSUNG HD300LD  WK10 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROMSONY DVD RW DRU-700A  VY03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi 1:0:1:0: CD-ROMPLEXTOR  CD-R   PX-230A   1.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sata_sis :00:05.0: version 0.8
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:05.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
sata_sis :00:05.0: Detected SiS 180/181/964 chipset in SATA mode
scsi2 : sata_sis
scsi3 : sata_sis
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001e100 ctl 0x0001e202 bmdma 0x0001e500 irq 17
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001e300 ctl 0x0001e402 bmdma 0x0001e508 irq 17
ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=960)
ata3: reset failed (errno=960), retrying in 10 secs
ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=960)
ata3: reset failed (errno=960), retrying in 10 secs
ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=960)
ata3: reset failed (errno=960), retrying in 35 secs
ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
ata3: COMRESET failed (errno=960)
ata3: reset failed, giving up
ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=976)
ata4: reset failed (errno=976), retrying in 10 secs
ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=976)
ata4: reset failed (errno=976), retrying in 10 secs
ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=976)
ata4: reset failed (errno=976), retrying in 35 secs
ata4: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=976)
ata4: reset failed, giving up


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Re: [opensuse-security] Re: [opensuse] How do I keep openSUSE secure?

2007-10-08 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Monday 08 October 2007 14:28:02 Aniruddha ste napísal:
 Thanks for clarifying that :).  Do you happen to know where I can manage
 (verify, delete etc.) imported gnupg keys?

See 'man rpm' for importing new keys, removing the keys, listing of them.

Stano
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Re: [opensuse] MD5SUM on GM

2007-10-08 Thread James Knott
Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 Hi,

 Just downloaded the x86_64 iso for 10.2 GM, the checksum matches the
 iso image but if i burn it and do a md5sum /dev/sr0 i get a
 different checksum. Tried also the media test option within the
 installation and it returns Aceptar in a bad spanish (wrong word at
 least) but i assume it means it was OK.

   

Why 10.2, instead of 10.3?


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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 - smart package mgr.

2007-10-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 07 October 2007 09:55:27 pm Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 18:11 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
  On Sunday 07 October 2007 01:37:25 pm Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
   opensuse 10.3
   KDE
   thinkpad x40
  
   Problem: clicking in smart does not start:
   Please enter administrative (root) password to conitnue
   Command: --gui
   Password: XXX
   OK
  
   Command --gui not found
 
  ...
 
   Any clues?
 
  From console try:
  kdesu 'smart --gui'
 
  In KDE  Main Menu right click and select Menu Editor.
  Browse to menu item Smart and see that Run as different user is checked
  and Username is root.

 Rajko,

 Thanks,

 It is working now. I just use the whole thing in the command fields

 kdesu 'smart --gui'

 Before I had the default installation that was the same as 10.2 with
 smart -gui in the command line
 root as username
 but for some reason some changes have occurred that produced the error.
 Thank you again for your help

 Ciao
 -=terry(Denver)=-

Thanks to Stefan's post now is clear that even if you enter this in Command 
field for menu item Smart:
  blah smart --gui
instead of 
  kdesu 'smart --gui'
it will work.

The bug is that KDE drops first string, so kdesu in:
  kdesu 'smart --gui'
will be dropped and kdesu that is called because it is checked Run as 
different user will get 'smart --gui', remove quotes, ask for password and 
run:
  smart --gui

The other way that works is to put:
  /usr/bin/smart --gui
in Command field for Smart. 

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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread Rui Santos


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 12:55 +0100, Rui Santos wrote:
   

   
 Have you tried with V5.5.5 ?
 

 I only have 5.5.1. Is there a free 5.5.5 Upgrade when I only have a
 5.5.1 Licence?
   
The 5.5.1 license is a valid license for v5.5.5.

   
 Have you tried the vmware-any-to-any v113 at
 http://knihovny.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update113.tar.gz ?

 

 Yes

   
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 - smart package mgr.

2007-10-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 08 October 2007 08:31:12 am Rajko M. wrote:
..
 The other way that works is to put:
   /usr/bin/smart --gui
 in Command field for Smart.

Forgot to mention that above will work after KDE is fixed and we get patch via 
online update. The other solutions will make problems after that.

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[opensuse] Strange media player problem in 10.3

2007-10-08 Thread Adam Jimerson
The Gstreamer engine for Amarok does not work for any of the users on my 
system so I downloaded all the xine parts off of packman so xine can have 
full media support, what is weird is my user account is the only user on my 
system that xine wants to work for.  For all the other people that use this 
computer one of two things happen: 1. the Xine based media player does not 
load, 2. the media player freezes when told to do something.  When trying to 
open a song, both mp3 and ogg, in Xine-ui and kaffine neather one of the 
media players open, and when I try to switch amarok to use the xine engine 
amarok freezes.  Anyone know what might be causing this, or any work around 
for it that I can try?  Right now anything will help, its kind of hard to 
show my mom that Linux is better than M$ Vista... and its kind of hard when 
she can't even get her music to play.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem with compiz

2007-10-08 Thread Erik Jakobsen
jdd wrote:
 Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 Don't think that matches ?

 worth a try :-)
 jdd

Now I did the nvidia repo setup by using zypper. Think I haven't done it
correct with Yast.
After I installed the 2 nvidia files, that matches my kernel.

I now have to take care of the compiz

Thanks to all that answered my queries
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 21:31 +0900, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
 Hello,
 
 In the Message; 
 
   Subject: Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1  OpenSUSE 10.3 GM
   Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date  Time: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:24:20 +0200
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:
 
  Upgrade to 6.0.1.
  
 
  I don't like these M$ tricks like having to upgrade and pay thru-ye-neck
  again. I do not have to buy my car back every time it needs a service!
 
 Ok.
 
  Surely there is another solution. 
 
  I tried a suggestion by Cristian Rodriguez:
 
  hint: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=1 will do the trick in case you
  get  xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed or
  similar.
 
  but now have the error:
  vmware: xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) -
  (dpy-request)) = 0)' failed.
 
 You've got a java's bug.
 
 This may solve the prolblem.
 
 1. search libmawt.so in the java.
 
   Maybe, it's in the
 
   /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update2/jre/lib/xawt
 
 (I don't know because mine is x86_64 system.)

Me too. I found it in:
/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt

 
 2. cd /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update2/jre/lib/xawt
 
 3. cp -p libmawt.so libmawt.so.orig
 
 4. sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g' libmawt.so
  
 Then try to start VMware.
 

Same error.

OK; This is what I tried:


sakabula:/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt sudo 
cp -p libmawt.so libmawt-original.so

root's password:

sakabula:/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt ls -l

total 488

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 242872 2007-05-02 11:21 libmawt-original.so

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 242872 2007-05-02 11:21 libmawt.so

sakabula:/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt sudo 
sed -i 's/XINERAMA/FAKEEXTN/g' libmawt.so

sakabula:/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt ls -l

total 488

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 242872 2007-05-02 11:21 libmawt-original.so

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 242872 2007-10-08 15:30 libmawt.so

sakabula:/usr/lib64/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0_update12/jre/lib/amd64/xawt cd ~

sakabula:~ vmware

vmware: xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) -
(dpy-request)) = 0)' failed.

sakabula:~


:-(


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[opensuse] Antialiasing settings don't affect Firefox

2007-10-08 Thread Kníže Ignor
Firefox don't reflect any changes I make in antialiasing settings. Everyone can 
make a little experiment. Close Firefox, go to Computer - Control Center - 
Appearance - Fonts and set rendering type to Monochrome (GNOME). System 
immediately responds and change can be seen for example on the gnome panel. Now 
start Firefox and you will see, that it still use old settings (fonts are 
antialiased). In Ubuntu this behaves as expected, that means antiliasing is 
disabled in Firefox. This is just an example, I don't want to disable 
antialiasing in Firefox, I want to change the font rendering. But this 
experiment shows us, that Firefox ignores the system settings. I compared 
mozconfig in Ubuntu and OpenSUSE and there are few differences - in OpenSUSE 
Firefox is build static. Can be this the reason for this behaviour? I tried to 
rpmbuild static Firefox (removed lines 'ac_add_options --enable-static', 
'ac_add_options --disable-shared' and added lines 'ac_add_options 
--enable-shared', 
 'ac_add_options --disable-static' in the spec file), but the compilation is 
failing:

c++  -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align 
-Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor 
-Wno-long-long -pedantic -O2 -g -fmessage-length=0 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Os 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fstack-protector -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe  -DNDEBUG 
-DTRIMMED -O2 -g -fmessage-length=0 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Os 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fstack-protector -fPIC -shared -Wl,-z,defs 
-Wl,-h,libgklayout.so -o libgklayout.so  nsLayoutModule.o 
nsContentHTTPStartup.o nsContentDLF.o nsLayoutStatics.o   
-Wl,--whole-archive ../../dist/lib/libgkbase_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkgeneric_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkforms_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkstyle_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkprinting_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgktable_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkxulbase_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkconbase_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconcvs_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkconevents_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconhtmlcon_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkconhtmldoc_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconxmlcon_s.a ..
 /../dist/lib/libgkconxmldoc_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconxbl_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkconxulcon_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconxuldoc_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkview_s.a ../../dist/lib/libjsdombase_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libjsdomevents_s.a ../../dist/lib/libjsurl_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libjsdomstorage_s.a  ../../dist/lib/libgkxultree_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkxulgrid_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkconxultmpl_s.a  
../../dist/lib/libinspector_s.a  ../../dist/lib/libgkmathmlcon_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkmathmlbase_s.a  ../../dist/lib/libgkcontentxtf_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkxtfbase_s.a  ../../dist/lib/libgksvgbase_s.a 
../../dist/lib/libgkconsvgdoc_s.a ../../dist/lib/libgkcontentsvg_s.a  
../../dist/lib/libgksvgrenderercairo_s.a  -Wl,--no-whole-archive 
-L../../dist/bin -L../../dist/lib -lgkgfx ../../dist/lib/libunicharutil_s.a 
-L../../dist/bin -lxpcom -lxpcom_core  -L../../dist/bin -L/usr/lib64 -lplds4 
-lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl -L../../dist/bin -lmozjs  -lgtk-x11-2.0 
-lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2
 .0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
-lglib-2.0-lcairo-Wl,--version-script 
-Wl,../../build/unix/gnu-ld-scripts/components-version-script -Wl,-Bsymbolic 
-ldl -lm
../../dist/lib/libgkconcvs_s.a(nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.o): In function 
`nsCanvasRenderingContext2D::Destroy()':
/home/ignor/rpm/BUILD/mozilla/content/canvas/src/nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp:568:
 undefined reference to `XFreePixmap'
../../dist/lib/libgkconcvs_s.a(nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.o): In function 
`nsCanvasRenderingContext2D::SetDimensions(int, int)':
/home/ignor/rpm/BUILD/mozilla/content/canvas/src/nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp:814:
 undefined reference to `XRenderFindStandardFormat'
/home/ignor/rpm/BUILD/mozilla/content/canvas/src/nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp:817:
 undefined reference to `XListPixmapFormats'
/home/ignor/rpm/BUILD/mozilla/content/canvas/src/nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp:824:
 undefined reference to `XFree'
/home/ignor/rpm/BUILD/mozilla/content/canvas/src/nsCanvasRenderingContext2D.cpp:829:
 undefined reference to `XCreatePixmap'

When I add -lX11 -lXrender, then the command passes, but there are also 
another problems, so the compilation fails later. I'm not as experienced to fix 
it.

So my question is what to do to force Firefox to respect the system settings of 
antialiasing? I'm trying to solve this, because there are pages, where fonts 
look really ugly to me - for example 
http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/screenshots/2/9/98392-nepublikovat--48272.png 
compare this with screenshot taken in Ubuntu 
(http://www.abclinuxu.cz/images/screenshots/2/9/98392-nepublikovat--48270.png).
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare WS 5.5.1 OpenSUSE 10.3 GM (Sort-of Solved w. update 6.0.1)

2007-10-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 14:26 +0100, Rui Santos wrote:
 

 
  I only have 5.5.1. Is there a free 5.5.5 Upgrade when I only have a
  5.5.1 Licence?

 The 5.5.1 license is a valid license for v5.5.5.
 


Thanx Rui  Masaru,

I got a 30-Day 6.0.1 version from VMWare to test. It works (also without
vmware-any-to-any). Will try 5.5.5 update later.

:-)
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL Update Table Error.

2007-10-08 Thread Michal Marek
J Sloan wrote:
 G T Smith wrote:
 SuSE 10.2

 Did an update today including MySQL security updates.

 Found MySQL had failed to reload for some reason.
 Restarted MySQL and got a a duplicate column error message when an
 attempt to update the mysql database tables was applied. (unfortunately,
 error message went before I could take notes and nothing in logs).
 Nothing seems to broken but unable to repeat error (I suspect because
 the database schema update has now been flagged as applied).
   
 Yes, I noticed that mysql was dead after the last upgrade on my suse
 10.2/64 server, and a bit of lookikng in the the mysqld log turned up a
 complaint about a duplicate column IIRC - but I started it with the rc
 script and it has run normally from that point on, so I hadn't give it
 too much further thought.

Hi,

the 'duplicate column' errors come from mysql_fix_privilege_tables.sql
and are in fact harmless (see https://bugzilla.novell.com/228248 , fixed
in 10.3). However, it seems that the init script thinks that something
failed during the upgrade :-(. Could you try

  # touch /var/lib/mysql/.run-mysql_upgrade
  # rcmysql restart

? Also please file a bugreport and assign it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm
going to try it myself.

thanks,
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[opensuse] gnome in OpenSUSE 10.3. at-spi problem.

2007-10-08 Thread Darragh
Hello all,

Could someone help me with some testing please?
Or, even better, could someone suggest a solution?

I am using OpenSUSE 10.3 with Gnome.  I've downloaded and installed from
CD.

When I install, the first thing I do when everything is up and running
and I'm on the desktop is run Orca.  This is a screen reader that
enables people like me who are blind to access the graphical desktop.
Like aexpected, it's configuration wizzard is launched and after
answering a few questions, I am prompted to log out in order to enable
gnome's accessibility support.  
So, I log out and back in again but I'm told that either at-spi is not
working correctly or it is not installed.  Sure enough, when I look,
at-spi isn't on the system.  No worries, I just install it using Yast.  
Now, the message is not shown any more.  I try to ensure accessibility
support is enabled using the assistive technologies preferences but I
get a message saying that the gnome settings manager is not installed.
There is no package under this title but I find a work around using the
another package.  Sorry, I don't remember it's name at the moment.  
Now however, although assistive software is enabled in Gnome, Orca is
still not reading controls that implement at-spi.  

I can only assume that something in Gnome is not referencing at-spi
correctly.

Do any of you have any suggestions?

Could you try the following?

1.  start gnome.
2.  Start orca. press alt f2 and type orca.
3.  follow the wizzard.  I usually just answer no to all it's questions
except the last one asking if it should log out as this is necessary.
3.  After logging out and back in again, note any errors you get.
4.  Launch orca again.
5.  In orca's main window you will see two buttons.  tab will navigate
the focus between each button and when orca is running it should speak
the highlighted text as you land on it.  If however your system behaves
like this one, orca will not speak at all.  

Could you let me know if you experience this?

Any idea how I can get Gnome behaving as it should?

Thanks in advance.


Darragh

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