Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 41

2007-10-10 Thread jdd

Bjørn Lie wrote:


1. Have a dvd player in their pc
2. If there is a dvd player, it is set in bios to boot from it, and not
the hdd


yes.

I must also say that I have had in my hands at least two dvd readers 
that where no more able to read dvd's, but only cd's...


this is why I don't blame the dvd's themselves, but the system.

jdd

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[opensuse-factory] Multi KDE Sessions and USB-disk

2007-10-10 Thread Joachim Reichelt
Hallo,

if more than one KDE session is active and I connect an USB disk, it is
allways
assigned to the first KDE session, that is the session on F7.
If I'm on e.g. F8 == localhost:1 I have no rights to read/write. Other
devices are
affected too, e.g. nvidiactrl
We make excessive use of this multiuser environment.
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[opensuse-factory] Disable KDE screensaver for ALL users

2007-10-10 Thread Joachim Reichelt
Hallo,

is it possible to disable the KDE screensaver or better only the
password protection of the screenserver for all users
on a shared system?



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Disable KDE screensaver for ALL users

2007-10-10 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Mittwoch 10 Oktober 2007 schrieb Joachim Reichelt:
 Hallo,

 is it possible to disable the KDE screensaver or better only the
 password protection of the screenserver for all users
 on a shared system?

You confuse opensuse-factory with opensuse ? -factory is for development 
issues of the distribution. Your question sounds a lot like a support 
question.

But yes, it's possible. Just put your own ~/.kde/share/config/kdisplayrc into
/etc/opt/kde3/share/config/ and edit everything out that does not look 
screensaver specific.

Greetings, Stephan
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 41

2007-10-10 Thread Sid Boyce

jdd wrote:

Bjørn Lie wrote:


1. Have a dvd player in their pc
2. If there is a dvd player, it is set in bios to boot from it, and not
the hdd


yes.

I must also say that I have had in my hands at least two dvd readers 
that where no more able to read dvd's, but only cd's...


this is why I don't blame the dvd's themselves, but the system.

jdd



I have an Acer Aspire 1501LCe laptop, swapped out the CD-RW/DVD reader 
for a DVD+-RW, and it won't read DVD's, whereas the former could. I put 
it down to a faulty drive. I think it was OK when I got it. In general, 
I find I have had quite a few DVD drives that have failed, around 50% have.

Regards
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-10 Thread M9.
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Ain Vagula schreef:
 M9. kirjutas:

 M9. schreef:

 Ain Vagula schreef:
 But after removing oo.o kde-integration package all works fine (I dont
 use Novells or openSUSE OO.o if there is any difference...)
 ain
 So you suggest the trouble must be in KDE?
 I use the SuSE-version, because these have not caused any trouble for me
 before...
 I will look what happens if i also uninstall the integration pkgs, and
 report here.
 The kde-integration package does not exist on my machine, at least
 nothing can be found in all the repos...;-(
 
 In repos it is under name: OpenOffice_org-kde
 
 KDE Extensions for OpenOffice.org
 This package contains some KDE extensions for OpenOffice.org.
 
 I remember that things got broken after KDE addressbook support was
 added in oo.o community packages (of course there can be another reason)
 and open/save is broken only in 64bit packages.
 
 ain

I found it just now, (had an extremely busy day..), but this package is
not installed on my system...so it can not be the cause of the not
working, or am i confused in this, that it should be installed to get
the save/open working?

I will install it, and look if something changes...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo hangs when trying to safe, or safe as.

2007-10-10 Thread M9.
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M9. schreef:

 
 I will install it, and look if something changes...
 

I did install it and it works now, but i did not try to open or save
before installing, and now i remember there was an oo  lib something
update this morning? Or yesterday? Or i am wrong..

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[opensuse-factory] Time to open/sync Factory

2007-10-10 Thread Hans-Peter Holler
Any plans for $subject ?
Items:
- search for fix_is_ready:10.3 at http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/
- http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-10/msg00185.html
- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_Factory/

TIA
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Re: [opensuse] Converting data DVD back to an iso file

2007-10-10 Thread Basil Chupin

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Thursday 2007-10-04 at 15:57 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:


 I accidentally deleted my 10.2 iso file from which I created the 
10.2-GM

 DVD.
  How do I re-create the iso file from this DVD, please? (I would 
like to

 download the delta for 10.3 and apply it against this 10.2 iso file.)

dd if=/dev/dvd-drive of=/your path/your iso file




iso file created.



But there is not 10.2 -- 10.3 delta.


Sorry for taking so long to response to your message.

But what else could one expect? If logic ruled the 
world. :'( .


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RE: [opensuse] Firefox Adobe Reader 8 integratrion OpenSUSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Rishi Oberoi
Hi,

The solution to the print settings problem would be to set the desired
default options in CUPS from where Adobe reader would always pick the
default settings. 

Following steps would be helpful:

* Launch the browser.
* Go to http://localhost:631/printers
* For the desired printer, go to Set Printer options. Choose the desired
options and Save printer settings.
* Re-launch Adobe reader 8 and open a doc.
* Invoke the print dialog and choose the printer for which the options
had been changed.
* Go to the properties and the default properties set in CUPS would be
reflected there.

Regards,
 Rishi



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Re: [opensuse] 1st problem with 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Basil Chupin

Fred A. Miller wrote:

K9copy creates movies that are all blocky. It's not handling the video
correctly. I had this problem sometime ago, and now can't remember what
I did to fix it! K9copy also crasses part way through a copy. Also,
can't play encrypted videos.yes I did update all the multimedia stuff.

Any help is appreciated.

Fred


Sorry, Fred, cannot solve your problem but can add my comments which 
just may be of some help/consolation.


I have a DVB (Technisat SkyStar2) card and use Kaffeine to watch the 
various channels (and also use Kaffeine to watch DVDs).


I also have 6 Desktops configured, each running some application (eg. 
Thunderbird, Firefox, etc), while I am watching TV.


On 10.2 I have absolutely no problems in watching TV, even when 
switching between the various Desktops (with the TV and sound running in 
the background, of course, as I switch between Desktops).


Not so with 10.3 (which is a clean install, with same options/hardware 
as for 10.2, and on the same computer but with different (spare) HDs): 
the TV picture either pixilates or stutters/jerks around when I move 
between Desktops.


At this point in time I don't know who to blame for this loss of 
efficacy in my DVB performance.


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[opensuse] Gramps and 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Gunnar Haaland
Gramps will not start. I have tried to install it with the 1 clik
from opensuse pages. I have downloaded the rpm and tried it with Yast.
but it will not start. It install without any error, when i tries to run
 Gramps from a terminal, I get a segment. error.

Gunnar
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[opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 Update Manager Issue

2007-10-10 Thread Jensen Somers
Hello,

I installed OpenSuse 10.3 yesterday and I noticed something odd today.
If I check the Include optional patches in additional updates and
Include 3rd party updates in additional updates boxes in the
preferences window of the update manager it shows me 15 additional
updates are available. However, if I run the update manager and click
details I cannot see any of them. I can however press install and the
update manager does it's magic giving me the message that everything is
installed, but when the update manager closes and it's re-checks for
updates it still gives me the message that 15 additional updates are
available and I can redo this process all over again, time after time.

I don't know if I want to unckeck these boxes and miss out on any
additional updates.

Any advice?

Secondly, I read in an IRC chat log on the OpenSuse website that
BlueFish (the HTML editor) was removed from OpenSuse 10.3. Any reason
why this happened or where I can find any additional repositories which
includes it?

- Jensen

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Re: [opensuse] hosted server

2007-10-10 Thread Per Jessen
jdd wrote:

 I seek to host a server here:
 
 http://www.kimsufi.com/
 
 this is a less than €24 ($30) a month hosting with small power HW, but
 quite large disk.
 
 They propose among many the openSUSE 10.2
 
 However I have a question (I ask them also  wait for the answer):
 
 it seems to be necessary to use they own kernel. How may this rely
 with security updates through Yast?

Hi jdd

it is unusual that they require their own kernel.  This would make me
suspicious - is it dedicated hardware or is it virtual?

 I ask here because it may be a more general question that it seems and
 hosted computers at this price have to be more and more frequent

It's a very low price, but also a relatively low-end processor.  The
important question is - how much do you have to pay for bandwidth and
how is it measured? 


/Per Jessen, Zürich

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[opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Bob S
Hello SuSE lovers/users,

I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 
messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top 
posting, failing to trim, etc.  Please !!  Do not top-post. Please !! trim.
I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe about proper posting 
procedures, etc. etc.  Please!!  just go with the flow, about how things work 
on THIS list.

I KNOW, I really do!  That the old-timers, the for real experts, the ones who 
can really give you advice, have grown tired of this. They just go plonk 
and your request for assistance or review of your advice is completely 
ignored. Is that what you want? Why did you come here in the first place? I 
find myself plonking those messages quite regularly lately. Those are the 
rules for THIS list. Do you want the answer to your question, or not?

I am far from an expert but have been lurking, learning, from this most 
outstanding list and an occasional contributor for many years now. Come on 
all of you new list people and you who remain obstinate; just go with the 
flow. OK ? Trim and bottom post. OK? Any and/or arumentative replies will be 
completely ignored. That is the way it works on THIS list. 

How about it list users? Do I stand alone?

Bob S

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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Per Jessen
Bob S wrote:

 Hello SuSE lovers/users,
 
 I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over
 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy.
 Top posting, failing to trim, etc.  Please !!  Do not top-post.
 Please !! trim. I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe
 about proper posting procedures, etc. etc.  Please!!  just go with the
 flow, about how things work on THIS list.

Motion seconded.  I would also suggest How to ask questions the smart
way by ESR.  It's good night-time reading. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Motion seconded.  I would also suggest How to ask questions the smart
 way by ESR.  It's good night-time reading.

Sorry, I forgot to add the URL:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



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[opensuse] Non native KDE applications look chiseled

2007-10-10 Thread Benjamin Pieritz

Hi ya'll

non native KDE applications like Eclipse, Firefox, Thunderbird ...  
look so chiseled. I suppose that they all use GTK.
There is this menu bar which sticks out, sort of a trench (the divider  
between the menu bar and the rest of the app also the scroll bars look  
weird and gray.


I played around with quite some settings but could change it. Is that  
the new openSuse 10.3 look or am I just clumsy?


Thanks in advance!
Benjamin

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System:  openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64)
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[opensuse] Font in K-Menu bigger?

2007-10-10 Thread getconnected
Hi,

i'd like to make font size in K-menu bigger. How do i do it? And: I don't want 
to change all other fonts in my system. Only in K-menu!

Thank you,

Eugen
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[opensuse] Nvida Drivers for 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Chuck Payne
Guys,

Hi, just update to 10.3 and I got a Nvida Card and it does do 3D, but
I need to get the drivers so that i can do compiz again.

Thanks,


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[opensuse] Quick question about grub

2007-10-10 Thread Chuck Payne
Guys,

I need to know the file name what image is store in for grub. I been
looking on the net and got a thousands answer.

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[opensuse] No textures in digikam?

2007-10-10 Thread getconnected
Hi,

i'm using digikam to organize my photos. Application can also edit them, for 
example, add frames to pictures. So i can choose from different kinds of 
frames: wood, metal and so on. But.. in suse 10.2 and 10.3 there are no 
corresponding textures.

Can you tell me where do i get there textures and
where should they stored on the filesystem?

Thank you,
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Re: [opensuse] Have video, finally, but no 3D for my Nvidia 8600GT

2007-10-10 Thread James Ruhsam
Okay I guess that I was wrong.  I just rebooted into Linux and was 
greeted by a text login again.  After logging in I was unable to get 
startx to run.  I had to use the information from my last email to 
correct xorg.conf and get a window environment again.  The cp /etc...
I have pasted, below, my xorg.conf as it is now, since I am unsure what 
I should correct.  when I enter Yast2/Sax2 it does show that 3D is 
accepted now and when I try to test my display I am greeted by an Nvidia 
splash screen, just before it crashes the test and kicks me out.  I do 
have the Xorg.99.log file that is created by Sax2 if that, or part of 
it, would help.


Thanks again for all your help,
James Ruhsam
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# generic XFree86 4.x configuration file

Section Files
 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype/
 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/uni/
 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/misc/
 ModulePath/usr/lib64/xorg/modules
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS0
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS1
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS2
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS3
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS4
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS5
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS6
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS7
 InputDevices/dev/ttyS8
 InputDevices/dev/psaux
 InputDevices/dev/logibm
 InputDevices/dev/sunmouse
 InputDevices/dev/atibm
 InputDevices/dev/amigamouse
 InputDevices/dev/atarimouse
 InputDevices/dev/inportbm
 InputDevices/dev/gpmdata
 InputDevices/dev/usbmouse
 InputDevices/dev/adbmouse
 InputDevices/dev/input/mice
 InputDevices/dev/input/event0
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
 OptionAllowMouseOpenFail
 OptionBlankTime0
EndSection

Section Module
 Loaddbe
 Loadextmod
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Section InputDevice
 Driverkbd
 IdentifierKeyboard[0]
 OptionProtocolStandard
 OptionXkbRulesxfree86
 OptionXkbKeycodesxfree86
 OptionXkbModelpc104
 OptionXkbLayoutus
EndSection

Section InputDevice
 Driver mouse
 Identifier Mouse[1]
 Option Protocol explorerps/2
 Option Device   /dev/input/mice
EndSection

Section Monitor
 HorizSync25-40
 IdentifierMonitor[0]
 ModelNameInitial
 VendorNameInitial
 VertRefresh47-75
 UseModesModes[0]
EndSection


Section Modes
 IdentifierModes[0]
 Modeline  800x600 40.0   800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync 
+vsync

 Modeline640x480 31.5   640 656 720 840  480 481 484 500 # 6. Try
 Modeline640x480 31.5   640 680 720 864  480 488 491 521 # 5. Try
 Modeline640x480 28 640 664 760 800  480 491 493 525 # 4. Try
 Modeline640x480 28.32  640 664 760 800  480 491 493 525 # 3. Try
 Modeline640x480 25.18  640 664 760 800  480 491 493 525 # 2. Try
 Modeline640x480 25.175 640 664 760 800  480 491 493 525 # 1. Try
EndSection

Section Monitor
 HorizSync28-33
 IdentifierMonitor[vmware]
 ModelNameInitial
 VendorNameInitial
 VertRefresh43-72
 UseModesModes[vmware]
EndSection
  
Section Modes

 IdentifierModes[vmware]
 Modeline800x600 29.38 800 816 896 992 600 601 604 617
EndSection

Section Monitor
 HorizSync31-48
 IdentifierMonitor[vesa]
 ModelNameVESA
 VendorNameVESA
 VertRefresh50-60
EndSection

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# -
Section Screen
 DefaultDepth 16
 SubSection Display
   Depth16
   Modes800x600
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
   Depth24
   Modes800x600
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
   Depth32
   Modes800x600
 EndSubSection
 SubSection Display
   Depth8
   Modes800x600
 EndSubSection
 DeviceDevice[0]
 IdentifierScreen[0]
 MonitorMonitor[0]
EndSection

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# vesafb defaults to 16bit
# others default to 8bit, force a higher colordepth
# on Apple onboard controllers, remove the default #207338
# changes for DefaultDepth have to be made in 
/usr/lib/YaST2/startup/YaST2.call as well

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   Depth16
   Modesdefault   
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   Modesdefault 
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 SubSection Display
   Depth32
   Modesdefault 
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   Depth8
   Modesdefault 
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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 01:52:08 am Bob S wrote:
 Hello SuSE lovers/users,

 I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200
 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top
 posting, failing to trim, etc.  

http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette

 That the old-timers, the for real experts, the ones 
 who can really give you advice, have grown tired of this. They just go
 plonk and your request for assistance or review of your advice is
 completely ignored. Is that what you want? Why did you come here in the
 first place? I find myself plonking those messages quite regularly
 lately. Those are the rules for THIS list. Do you want the answer to your
 question, or not?

 I am far from an expert but have been lurking, learning, from this most
 outstanding list and an occasional contributor for many years now. Come on
 all of you new list people and you who remain obstinate; just go with the
 flow. OK ? Trim and bottom post. OK? Any and/or argumentative replies will
 be completely ignored. That is the way it works on THIS list.

 How about it list users? Do I stand alone?

No you are not alone. 
I'm just tired to jump in, look for link to this list netiquette and post 
reply that can start another fruitloss thread. 
I appreciate you effort. 

Just added to netiquete: 
  Conclusion
The old-timers, the real experts, the ones who can really give advice, have 
grown tired of people that use any message style and shape that come in mind. 
Many just plonk a message and request for assistance is completely ignored. 
So if you want good advice, please, do only what you do when visit someones 
home, accept hosts customs.



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Re: [opensuse] Yast2 grabbing window focus

2007-10-10 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Tuesday 09 October 2007 23:53:18 Carlos E. R. ste napísal:
 The Tuesday 2007-10-09 at 21:56 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
  It's a fair feature request. You can open a bugzilla entry for it and
  suggest it

 And it will be closed as duplicated :-P

 It was reported ages ago, by me, for instance.

Yes, it's on the YaSt team radar. The only way to fix this problem sooner is 
to submit patches.

Stano, wishing to have a bit of time to hack this up
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[opensuse] Re: hosted server

2007-10-10 Thread jdd

Per Jessen wrote:


it is unusual that they require their own kernel.  This would make me
suspicious - is it dedicated hardware or is it virtual?


probably hardware (you can have usb drive)


It's a very low price, but also a relatively low-end processor.  The
important question is - how much do you have to pay for bandwidth and
how is it measured? 


it's 100Mb free symetric

all this is much more than what I have with my old server on my dsl 
line :-)


one can buy one for as little as one month, so I did and will make a try.

already, for software install, the speed is amazing :-)))

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 box vs iso versions

2007-10-10 Thread Stephan Binner
On Tuesday, 9. October 2007 21:13:28 Jerry Houston wrote:

 Dunno if SuSE works the same way that RedHat did, but if it does, I'd
 advise folks not to register unless and until they actually do need

But you're aware that support for installation only is included? If you call 
with a problem two months after installation I doubt it will be answered.

Bye,
   Steve
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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Aniruddha
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Re: [opensuse] Converting data DVD back to an iso file

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 16:11 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:


 But there is not 10.2 -- 10.3 delta.


Sorry for taking so long to response to your message.

But what else could one expect? If logic ruled the world. 
:'( .


A delta from 10.2 to 10.3 would probably be so big as a whole DVD, or 
more. Useless.


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Re: [opensuse] Quick question about grub

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Goldstein
Hi,

On 10/10/07, Chuck Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to know the file name what image is store in for grub. I been
 looking on the net and got a thousands answer.

See for example:

http://suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t16256.html
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t18629.html

If you mean initial splash screen, it is back.jpg in /boot/message

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Re: [opensuse] Have video, finally, but no 3D for my Nvidia 8600GT

2007-10-10 Thread Aniruddha

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 03:46 -0400, James Ruhsam wrote:
 Okay I guess that I was wrong.  I just rebooted into Linux and was 
 greeted by a text login again.  After logging in I was unable to get 
 startx to run.  I had to use the information from my last email to 
 correct xorg.conf and get a window environment again.  The cp /etc...
 I have pasted, below, my xorg.conf as it is now, since I am unsure what 
 I should correct.  when I enter Yast2/Sax2 it does show that 3D is 
 accepted now and when I try to test my display I am greeted by an Nvidia 
 splash screen, just before it crashes the test and kicks me out.  I do 
 have the Xorg.99.log file that is created by Sax2 if that, or part of 
 it, would help.
 
 Thanks again for all your help,
 James Ruhsam
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 # generic XFree86 4.x configuration file
 

I don't know which file that is, it sure doesn't look like a xorg.conf
file to me. I have attached two files for you; my current xorg.conf
(with nvidia 3d) and  xorg-conf.nvidia-post with the 2d open source
drivers). 

You can backup your old xorg and use mine, don't forget to adjust for
your monitor's settings!

Backup
# mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK

Copy my xorg
cp xorg.conf /etc/X11/

Adjust for your monitors refresh rate
nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Good luck! 
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Re: [opensuse] I need a kernel

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2007-10-09 at 21:40 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:


It wasn't removed: rather it was never there. Yast always replaces the
kernel and every other package it installs.


The kernel obviously was there in /boot and it was removed and
replaced.   Back in 9.3 or so, when a kernel was replaced, it wasn't
removed but used as a backup.   That saved my buns more than once and I
lament the change to replace and remove  of the current versions.


I don't remember that behavior in 9.3. Plus, the binary in /boot might 
remain there, but that is not the whole kernel.




You should report on bugzilla your problem with the new kernel that
the old hasn't, anyhow, so that the new one can be patched.


I submitted a bug report a long time ago on this along with a GPL's copy
of the source code to the driver which compiled sucessfully with -25 but
not on the others.  The bug is still open and the manufacturer has other
cards with 'higher priorities'.   Their controller is super, their
support leaves a lot to be desired.


Ah? Then it is a manufacturer driver, that doesn't compile, not a broken 
part in the kernel?



In any case, if the new kernel broke it, I think you could submit a 
bugzilla against this new kernel breaking the driver.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE partitions [WAS: Re: legalities]

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 01:23 -0400, Bob S wrote:


I would have to agree - maybe someone who's playing around with all
sorts will have a need for that many partitions, but for an every day
working environment, I use no more than three.



Welwith these new huge discs, it can be a problem. I run three distros
on one drive. I like to make /home /tmp /var  /usr separate. Include the
primary / and you have used 15 partitions. Include one swap for all of them
and you now have used 16. Actually /swap is on another drive. I still have


Exactly. And /boot, and windows, etc. Then, you could dedicate partitions 
to certain programs to block them if the go berserk from claiming the 
entire disk. Traditionally, databases were given their own partition. I 
have one for vmware. Also, you can have other partitions for replication 
backup. There are many uses for as many partitions as you like.


It's simply a different strategy from the one for all.

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Re: [opensuse] pthread compiling problem

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 10 2007 02:08, Donato Azevedo wrote:

 So, why have you replaced pthread by your own?

I actually haven't (not voluntarily, I mean)... Some package I might
have installed without yast may have placed it there...

Might as well clean up /usr/local entirely.

ps: When replying on this list, should I send the response to the
person who sent me the email and cc it to the list, or send it
directly to the list?

For opensuse lists: Depends on the person. I prefer List+Cc,
others only List.
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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 9 2007 21:04, Richard Creighton wrote:

I think I would try making your swap partition RAID 0

Swap on RAID0 is stupid, because swap is intelligent enough itself
to stripe to multiple locations. All it takes is the pri= argument
in fstab.

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Re: [opensuse] Nvida Drivers for 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Matthew Stringer
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 08:43:47 Chuck Payne wrote:
 Guys,

 Hi, just update to 10.3 and I got a Nvida Card and it does do 3D, but
 I need to get the drivers so that i can do compiz again.

 Thanks,

Done in exactly the same way as it was in 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 9 2007 20:45, Ben Kevan wrote:

What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the 2.6.23 
kernel to help utilize the new scheduler?

chances - not gonna happen too soon I presume (based on previous evidence).
10.3 got delivered with a fairly recent kernel (2.6.22), so it might come
that 2.6.24 is the first to appear on the suse side. This is how it happened
with 2.6.18(10.2)-2.6.20.
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Re: [opensuse] Nvida Drivers for 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 10 2007 03:43, Chuck Payne wrote:

Hi, just update to 10.3 and I got a Nvida Card and it does do 3D, but
I need to get the drivers so that i can do compiz again.

Indeed.
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[opensuse] HP M1005 MFP

2007-10-10 Thread Hans van der Merwe
Hi,
I have this multifunction printer working (using the foo2xqx driver).
The scanner part is supported by hpljm1005, which is not yet in die sane
source.  I added it and recompiled the sane sources.  Also created a
dll.conf file with the string hpljm1005 in it - as instructed by
someone on a forum somewhere.
I can scanimage now, but only as root and only if I am in the same
directory as the dll.conf file?
Yast has no idea of the scanner and obviously kooka (which I used in the
past with my epson) does not work.
Any tips, forums, readmes I can follow up on to get the scanner seen.

Hans



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Re: [opensuse] Quick question about grub

2007-10-10 Thread Chuck Payne
On 10/10/07, Mark Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 On 10/10/07, Chuck Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I need to know the file name what image is store in for grub. I been
  looking on the net and got a thousands answer.

 See for example:

 http://suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t16256.html
 http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t18629.html

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Yes, that what I was look for, most sites where saying splash.xpm.gz
which I didn't see.

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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:47:04, Aniruddha wrote:

 I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each
 welcome message e.g.

Its on my TODO.

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Re: [opensuse] 2.6.22.9-ccj54-default ATI FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed Error

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 9 2007 19:15, David C. Rankin wrote:

   I installed the 2.6.22.9-ccj54-default kernel via Yast and then rebuilt
the ATI drivers by hand pursuant to
http://en.opensuse.org/ATI_Driver_HOWTO#The_Hard_Way and
http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html. Two issues:

   First, for some reason Yast/sax2 incorrectly recognizes the card as an
ATI RV350 NP. This is incorrect. The card is correctly listed with glxinfo:

I would not know what changed between 2.6.22.3 and .9 (I'm basing these
off the suse build service), since their source repository is not open
and I do not copy their kernels on a daily basis.
If it happens to work with a kernel from
/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586||x86_64, let me know.
Though I did not really change any of my patches between ccj53 and 54.

17:13 //david/Rankin-P35a~ glxgears
FGLTexMgr: open of shared memory object failed (Permission denied)
__FGLTexMgrCreateObject: __FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed!!!

   Obviously it is a permission error, but I don't know where to start to
track it down. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

For Nvidia, there are /dev/nvidia*, I do not know if ati has something
similar. (Probably not since it is trying to use SHM, try `ipcs`)
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Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE partitions [WAS: Re: legalities]

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Oct 9 2007 14:46, Per Jessen wrote:

 Ah, okay. The Release Notes now offer two workarounds for this problem
 and I'd be pretty optimistic that an even better solution would be
 offered for this by the time 11 rolls around. Although you have to
 admit, limited to 15 partitions isn't something very many people
 would run into.

See http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/5/76
Basically their stance is to use kpartx.

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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Richard Creighton
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Oct 9 2007 21:04, Richard Creighton wrote:
   
 I think I would try making your swap partition RAID 0
 

 Swap on RAID0 is stupid, because swap is intelligent enough itself
 to stripe to multiple locations. All it takes is the pri= argument
 in fstab.

   
That is one opinion.  I don't happen to agree that it is stupid, it is
only another method.  Isn't it a wonderful thing to be able to exercise
your rights?  Even if the right you are exercising is the right to be wrong.

The point of this thread was to try to help or suggest possible
solutions to a problem someone was having involving using RAID.   His
problem is solved so this thread is now moot.
Good day,
Richard

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Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE partitions [WAS: Re: legalities]

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 11:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:


See http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/5/76
Basically their stance is to use kpartx.


Too technical for me, I don't understand the code. No idea what kpartx is.

- From reading that thread, I see that there is no clear solution provided. 
For instance, some propose using the available 20 bit minors, but this 
solution was vetoed.


And I don't feel safe about using a userspace solution, either...

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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread jdd

Rajko M. wrote:

No you are not alone. 

of course not :-)
jdd



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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 06:12 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:


Jan Engelhardt wrote:



Swap on RAID0 is stupid, because swap is intelligent enough itself
to stripe to multiple locations. All it takes is the pri= argument
in fstab.


That is one opinion.  I don't happen to agree that it is stupid, it is
only another method.  Isn't it a wonderful thing to be able to exercise
your rights?  Even if the right you are exercising is the right to be wrong.


Swap on raid 0 is absurd and not recommended (although it works), you 
simply get better results using what Jan recommends.


However, swap on raid 1 does have its merits (redundancy).

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 on an old box installed like a dream

2007-10-10 Thread Damon Register

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I just put it on an old p3 , just to see if it would have any 

I plan to try a P2 later.

management-- search-- xmms, and  it didn't appear..  ( and the search 
isn't comcerned w/ capital letters or lower case ones ) It is only an 
oddity, but It made me wonder.

I miss that too.  I will have to dig up that other thread I saw about
this subject.

Marcus, love what you  the rest of the *keeping us safe from ourselves 
and others* team have done. I still have all my options open, but out 
of the box the darned thing just works . Firewall and everything is 

I see that others were not as fortunate as you and I was a bit
nervous installing after all I had read about the problems with
10.3.  I just installed it on an older IBM Netvista with a P4.
The box is just stock with on board sound and video.  I was surprised
to find how nicely everything worked.  My son is already playing
SuperTux.

I love that Novell has included the mp3 stuff out of the box.. ( now 
please stop whining about that .) I haven't installed stuff to play 

considering all those discussions I have seen about this topic,
I am also happy that at least Real Player worked right away.  Amarok
didn't work though so I am going to look for the threads where this
has been discussed.


Perhaps the biggest positive thing I noticed is the _MAJOR_ improvement
in the software management.  I really hated how painfully slow it
was with 10.2 to  just start the YaST software management.  I don't
know what is going on inside but I see that on the surface it is
much better.  Thanks SuSE team.

Damon Register
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Re: [opensuse] HP M1005 MFP

2007-10-10 Thread Johannes Meixner

Hello,

On Oct 10 11:45 Hans van der Merwe wrote (shortened):
 I have this multifunction printer working (using the foo2xqx driver).
 The scanner part is supported by hpljm1005, which is not yet in die sane
 source.  I added it and recompiled the sane sources.  Also created a
 dll.conf file with the string hpljm1005 in it - as instructed by
 someone on a forum somewhere.

Usually SANE looks into /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and therefore
additional drivers (SANE backends) are usually added to this file.
But your self-compiled SANE might do anything else depending on
how you compiled and installed it.
For general information how it usually works and how to do
usually trouble-shooting see
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_Scanners_from_SUSE_LINUX_9.2


 I can scanimage now, but only as root

I guess the HP M1005 MFP is connected via USB.
Then lsusb shows its current USB bus and device number, e.g.:
--
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:a1b2 Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 1005
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and then the device file via which it is accessed is
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/dev/bus/usb/002/003
--
and then ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003 shows its permissions e.g.:
--
crw-r--r-- 1 root root ... /dev/bus/usb/002/003
--
and then an appropriate chmod should help - but only until
the scanner is re-connected or the system is re-booted
because USB device files are created by udev on the fly
for each boot and/or device connect.

As you didn't mention which Suse Linux or openSUSE version
you are using, I cannot tell you what exactly you need to do
to set appropriate permissions via the udev/HAL/resmgr machinery
(the details changed for each Suse Linux or openSUSE version).
For openSUSE 10.2 see for example
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223875#c4
and for openSUSE 10.3 see for example
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250659
Even
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=Pine.LNX.4.64.0708141120210.25428%40nelson.suse.de
and
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=Pine.LNX.4.64.0707040850200.22081%40nelson.suse.de
may help you, see the controllable permissions section.

The simplest solution is to use the saned and the net meta-backend
on your local host to access the scanner, for example via
YaST scanner setup - Other - Scanning via Network.
For general information how this usually works see
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_Scanners_from_SUSE_LINUX_9.2
Alternatively you can use 'saned'...


 Yast has no idea of the scanner

The model list in YaST is derived from the *.desc scanner description
files in our sane-backends RPM package.
There is no other method in SANE how a scanner config tool could know
about scanner models and which driver(s) match to a model.
Don't confuse this with what sane-find-scanner does, see
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=260991#c8


 obviously kooka (which I used in the past with my epson)
 does not work.

Why obviously?
Any scanning frontend like scanimage, xscanimage (package
sane-frontends), xsane (package xsane) and kooka should
recognize all scanners which are shown by scanimage -L, see
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_Scanners_from_SUSE_LINUX_9.2
Only kooka seems to be sometimes a bit picky, see
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141079


Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 box vs iso versions

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2007-10-09 at 10:02 -0600, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:


I have just installed opensuse 10.3 86_64 using the iso version. I also
ordered the box version from Novell which it has not arrived yet.

Q: is there any difference between the iso image and the dvd from the
box?


More files on the dvd, no need to download so many things. Sometimes they 
include commercial software, I don't know about 10.3. They should publish 
the advantages, its to their own benefit.




Q: is it worth to reinstall it when the box version arrives?


No.



Q: if there is a difference what repositories I have to add to be the
same


oss and non-oss.



Q: registering the code with novell what gives me besides the
online/phone support


Printed manuals - unfortunately, not the big administration book: I 
stopped buying the box the moment they stopped printing it.


I agree with Jerry: don't register till you really need support.

Also with Stephan: it's only installation support, and of a standard 
installation. Chances are, if you have a problem and you are not a newbie, 
that the support will be useless.


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Re: [opensuse] Nvida Drivers for 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Francis Giannaros
On 10/10/07, Chuck Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guys,

 Hi, just update to 10.3 and I got a Nvida Card and it does do 3D, but
 I need to get the drivers so that i can do compiz again.

Take a look at http://opensuse.org/NVIDIA -- in openSUSE 10.3 you can
use 1-click-install!

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[opensuse] How to I start an official openSUSE Dutch mailing list?

2007-10-10 Thread Aniruddha
I noticed that there isn't an official Dutch mailing list available for
openSUSE yet. I am interested in starting one. How do I proceed? Thanks
in advance! 
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 box vs iso versions

2007-10-10 Thread Kevin Dupuy
In my experiance as long as I'm within the 90 days, SUSE's (great, BTW)
support people help me with my problem, even on the installed desktop.

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 10:21 +0200, Stephan Binner wrote:
 On Tuesday, 9. October 2007 21:13:28 Jerry Houston wrote:
 
  Dunno if SuSE works the same way that RedHat did, but if it does, I'd
  advise folks not to register unless and until they actually do need
 
 But you're aware that support for installation only is included? If you call 
 with a problem two months after installation I doubt it will be answered.
 
 Bye,
Steve

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Re: [opensuse] MySQL Update Table Error.

2007-10-10 Thread G T Smith
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Michal Marek wrote:
 G T Smith wrote:

snip

 
 
 I will file a report if you still wish me to, and BTW should it be
 against original...
 
 Thanks.
 

Finally (hopefully) as required...

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=332530


 
 I cannot say anything about the 10.3 reports as I am still on 10.2.
 
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[opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread Marcos David
Hello,
I've been working with 10.3 and I have a small problem: my laptop
won't shutdown with openSUSE.

shutdown -h now - reboots
in KDE the shutdown option also reboots.
Pressing the power button also reboots

I can see that the shutdown sequence is initiated (init reports going
to init level 0)
but the laptop simply reboots.

I know there are some weird ACPI problems, but since I don't know what
they are, I was wondering if this is one those problems and, if so, is
there a workaround?


Thaks in advance.

Marcos David
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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Mohsen Rezayatmand
I agree, it is not a good idea to Raid swap space, it is also faster if 
you do not Raid the swap.




Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 06:12 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:


Jan Engelhardt wrote:



Swap on RAID0 is stupid, because swap is intelligent enough itself
to stripe to multiple locations. All it takes is the pri= argument
in fstab.


That is one opinion.  I don't happen to agree that it is stupid, it is
only another method.  Isn't it a wonderful thing to be able to exercise
your rights?  Even if the right you are exercising is the right to be 
wrong.


Swap on raid 0 is absurd and not recommended (although it works), you 
simply get better results using what Jan recommends.


However, swap on raid 1 does have its merits (redundancy).

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RE: [opensuse] Graphics printing problems - Adobe Acrobat Reader

2007-10-10 Thread Rishi Oberoi

Hi Dennis,

Please send me the bug file so as to isolate the issue.

Regards,
  Rishi


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Re: [opensuse] HP M1005 MFP

2007-10-10 Thread Hans van der Merwe
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:46 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Oct 10 11:45 Hans van der Merwe wrote (shortened):
  I have this multifunction printer working (using the foo2xqx driver).
  The scanner part is supported by hpljm1005, which is not yet in die sane
  source.  I added it and recompiled the sane sources.  Also created a
  dll.conf file with the string hpljm1005 in it - as instructed by
  someone on a forum somewhere.
 
 Usually SANE looks into /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and therefore
 additional drivers (SANE backends) are usually added to this file.
 But your self-compiled SANE might do anything else depending on
 how you compiled and installed it.
 For general information how it usually works and how to do
 usually trouble-shooting see
 http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_Scanners_from_SUSE_LINUX_9.2
 
 
 For openSUSE 10.2 see for example
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223875#c4

I use 10.2, will check it out

 The simplest solution is to use the saned and the net meta-backend
 on your local host to access the scanner, for example via
 YaST scanner setup - Other - Scanning via Network.
 For general information how this usually works see
 http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_Scanners_from_SUSE_LINUX_9.2
 Alternatively you can use 'saned'...
 

Good idea


 Kind Regards
 Johannes Meixner


Thanks for all the help, this will keep me up tonight :)

Hans



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[opensuse] live *cd*

2007-10-10 Thread jdd

Hello,

I really need a live cd (for a course with users don't having any dvd) 
and I would hate using the ubuntu one :-(


do you know of any openSUSE one? (don't need to be the last version)
thanks
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Re: [opensuse] live *cd*

2007-10-10 Thread Gabriel .
2007/10/10, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,

 I really need a live cd (for a course with users don't having any dvd)
 and I would hate using the ubuntu one :-(

 do you know of any openSUSE one? (don't need to be the last version)
 thanks
 jdd

You have the live CD for RC2
(http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-RC2/iso/cd/) or you
can make one by yourself (http://en.opensuse.com/KIWI)

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread Aniruddha

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 13:27 +0100, Marcos David wrote:
 Hello,
 I've been working with 10.3 and I have a small problem: my laptop
 won't shutdown with openSUSE.
 
 shutdown -h now - reboots
 in KDE the shutdown option also reboots.
 Pressing the power button also reboots
 
 I can see that the shutdown sequence is initiated (init reports going
 to init level 0)
 but the laptop simply reboots.
 
 I know there are some weird ACPI problems, but since I don't know what
 they are, I was wondering if this is one those problems and, if so, is
 there a workaround?
 
 
 Thaks in advance.
 
 Marcos David

I have the same problem, maybe we should file a bugreport?


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 10/10/07, Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 9 2007 20:45, Ben Kevan wrote:
 
 What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the 2.6.23
 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler?

 chances - not gonna happen too soon I presume (based on previous evidence).
 10.3 got delivered with a fairly recent kernel (2.6.22), so it might come
 that 2.6.24 is the first to appear on the suse side. This is how it happened
 with 2.6.18(10.2)-2.6.20.

Are you saying that you don't expect a KOTD with 2.6.23?

I certainly don't expect an official kernel update.  SuSE has not done
that in the years I've been using it, but KOTD or equivalent releases
have always used relatively current kernels.  Can't say I've paid that
much attention just after a new distro release.

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Re: [opensuse] External Modem Installation

2007-10-10 Thread Ongkie Sasongko

Thanks for your help and info.

I've tried to run wvdial but can not get through, Cannot open /dev/ 
modem: Device or resource busy.
I've also tried to run kinternet and got message, bash: kinternet:  
command not found.


Ongkie

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4. I don't know how to make my modem dial to the ISP manually.


kinternet, wvdial...

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Re: [opensuse] External Modem Installation

2007-10-10 Thread Barry Premeaux
 I've tried to run wvdial but can not get through, Cannot open /dev/
 modem: Device or resource busy.
 I've also tried to run kinternet and got message, bash: kinternet:
 command not found.

I'm not sure what the solution to your problem is, but I was wondering
if you had already set up the modem in Yast2?  Yast will scan for the
hardware and allow you to set up the ISP.  It will also allow you to
set up automatic dial up (I believe on boot up only though).

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Sylvester Lykkehus

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Oct 9 2007 20:45, Ben Kevan wrote:
What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the 2.6.23 
kernel to help utilize the new scheduler?


chances - not gonna happen too soon I presume (based on previous evidence).
10.3 got delivered with a fairly recent kernel (2.6.22), so it might come
that 2.6.24 is the first to appear on the suse side. This is how it happened
with 2.6.18(10.2)-2.6.20.


A bit off-topic
Jan:
Are you planning on continuing building kernel RPMS with the ccj 
patchset for _10.2_ in the future, or will you be focusing on 10.3 ?


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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Sunny
On 10/10/07, Henne Vogelsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Its on my TODO.


Great, Henne,
also, you may put a link to How to ask questions the smart way:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html;

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Re: [opensuse] Font in K-Menu bigger?

2007-10-10 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 00:36, getconnected wrote:
 Hi,

 i'd like to make font size in K-menu bigger. How do i do it? And: I
 don't want to change all other fonts in my system. Only in K-menu!

In the KDE Control Center, Appearance  Themes section, Font panel 
there's a setting specifically for Menu:. Change that one.


 Thank you,

 Eugen


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Re: [opensuse] nxserver on OpenSuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Scott Moseman
On 10/9/07, Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Where do I go from here?  The nxclient should be ok, it works on
  several other (albeit all CentOS) boxes.  As far as I can tell, sshd
  is configured the same between CentOS and OpenSuSE.  Maybe
  some environmental variable I need to set/change in OpenSuSE?

 Try editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config and
 ensure that X11 forward is set to Yes:


My CentOS servers do not have it setup...

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh]# cat ssh_config | grep ForwardX11
  # ForwardX11 no
  ForwardX11Trusted yes

Neither did my OpenSuSE installation...

  oss103:/etc/ssh # cat ssh_config | grep ForwardX11
  # ForwardX11 no
  ForwardX11Trusted yes

However, I did go ahead and try setting it, but got the same errors.

Thanks,
Scott
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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread James Knott

Mohsen Rezayatmand wrote:
I agree, it is not a good idea to Raid swap space, it is also faster 
if you do not Raid the swap.




Given the main reason for RAID is fault tolerance, what happens if the 
drive holding SWAP craps out and it's not RAID?  Would that not tend to 
cause problems for a running system to lose everything in SWAP?  On a 
server I have at home, everything is on RAID 5, except /boot, which is 
RAID 1.



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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 on an old server installed like a dream (nightmare version)

2007-10-10 Thread Clint Tinsley
 David C. Rankin wrote:
  Sandy Drobic wrote:
  I can only recommend to have a Knoppix dvd present and better yet a test
  installation on a less important system before you jump on the band wagon
  of 10.3. It seems as if some raid controllers are still not correctly
  supported by newer Opensuse installers, even though they are working
  beautifully in older versions.
 
  Sandy, if this happened to you, what can the rest of us expect? Just
  don't let your postfix knowledge become corrupt with the blood pressure
  elevation. Good rule of thumb (thou shall not Upgrade). Back up home
  and data, fresh install, then reload data -- The only way to fly.
 
 Uhm, that would give you a non-working Cyrus imap server for example.
 
 I am also pretty sure that it would have happened with a fresh install as
 well.
 
 The point of my story was that it can happen to everyone of us and that
 everyone should take steps to anticipate trouble and have a concept ready
 how to repair a system and minimize downtime.

I personally subscribe to the rule of Thou Shall not Upgrade and If it isn't 
broken, Don't fix it  I installed 10.3 on my laptop and wasn't sure it was 
going to survive but somehow it cleaned up its act and seems to be working 
okay.  (On the first reboot, it did a lot of disk checking) I am still running 
10.1 on my main desktop and it sits behind a firewall on my personal network so 
I am to concerned about having the latest security patches and updates although 
I do run the update manager, frequently holding my breath.  I considered 
upgrading to 10.2 but it wanted to remove too much stuff that was installed in 
10.1.  I have too much stuff on the computer, big hard drive, and would not 
want to rebuild from backup, which would absolutely be required.  Just do not 
have the time, what I have works!

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[opensuse] Re: IDE partitions [WAS: Re: legalities]

2007-10-10 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Bob S wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 October 2007 08:46, Per Jessen wrote:
 Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Ah, okay. The Release Notes now offer two workarounds for this problem
 and I'd be pretty optimistic that an even better solution would be
 offered for this by the time 11 rolls around. Although you have to
 admit, limited to 15 partitions isn't something very many people
 would run into.
 I would have to agree - maybe someone who's playing around with all
 sorts will have a need for that many partitions, but for an every day
 working environment, I use no more than three.

 HiPer,
 
 Welwith these new huge discs, it can be a problem. I run three 
 distros 
 on one drive. I like to make /home /tmp /var  /usr separate. Include the 
 primary / and you have used 15 partitions. Include one swap for all of them 
 and you now have used 16. Actually /swap is on another drive. I still have 
 about 80GB left on that disc and not enough partitions to use it  if I 
 continue with my current thinking.  What are the three that you use? Are you 
 not afraid of running out of space in the partitions which can grow so fast?

But why do you need separate partitions for all of those? All it adds is
complexity, unless you live and breathe 'dd', which is most comfortable with
partitions. You would have separate partitions if you wanted to share the /home
folder, for instance, but not if they are completely isolated. Just put them
all in / and be done with it, I say.

And why not share the swap partition? Nothing special goes in there.

I'm an OS junkie too, but four partitions per hard drive work fine.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread Marcos David
On 10/10/07, Aniruddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have the same problem, maybe we should file a bugreport?




First I would like some confirmation that this is indeed an unknow bug.

I can supply logs if they are needed, or I can do some debugging

Anyone else with this problem?
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[opensuse] Re: live *cd*

2007-10-10 Thread jdd

Gabriel . wrote:


You have the live CD for RC2
(http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-RC2/iso/cd/)


should be good

 or you

can make one by yourself (http://en.opensuse.com/KIWI)


not enough skilled :-(

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] External Modem Installation

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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Thanks for your help and info.

I've tried to run wvdial but can not get through, Cannot open /dev/modem: 
Device or resource busy.


Maybe you have not configured the modem in Yast. Maybe the modem port is 
busy.


What gives ls -l /dev/modem*?


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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 09:49 -0400, James Knott wrote:


Mohsen Rezayatmand wrote:

 I agree, it is not a good idea to Raid swap space, it is also faster if
 you do not Raid the swap.



Given the main reason for RAID is fault tolerance, what happens if the drive 
holding SWAP craps out and it's not RAID?  Would that not tend to cause 
problems for a running system to lose everything in SWAP?  On a server I have 
at home, everything is on RAID 5, except /boot, which is RAID 1.


Yes, but it has been proposed to mount swap on a raid 0, and that doesn't 
have any fault tolerance, rather the contrary, and it is slower than two 
swap stripes. That is my point, that swap on raid 0 is not recomended.


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Re: [opensuse] Driving me crazy

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 11:29 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:



On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:47:04, Aniruddha wrote:


I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each
welcome message e.g.


Its on my TODO.


How about a rotating mail footer? Unsubscribe address, help address, 
netiquette, FAQs, etc?


You know that welcome messages are never read :-p

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP)

2007-10-10 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 14:21 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:


Along these lines I have an HP3300 MFP and I can print from any user and
I can scan as root but I cannot scan as a regular user and can find
nothing regarding any special group or device perms. Any help
appreciated.

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[opensuse] 10.3 failure except 10.3a3

2007-10-10 Thread peter nikolic
Well just pulled the  10.3 x86_64 DVD downalong with the x86version

tried to install the 32 bit version on my firewall/routergood job it was a 
spare drive i tried it on cus it was a complete pigs ear would not enable the 
bcm34xx card says it needs firmware   E   10.0 did not   would 
not enable the rt2500 wifi card  for lun nor money   once again 10.0 has no 
problms at all in facti have both wireless cards bridged on 10.0  on 2 
different  access pionts   to bond1 for my incoming internet connection but 
10.3 aint got no hope at all .

having tried that one i am not going to risk the 64 bit version on the main 
machine way too much of a risk 10.3 most obviously was not ready for 
release . 
Maybe the 10.3 GM should be relabled 10.3 RC1.5_with_lots_to_get_working_yet


Pete   staying on 10.3a3 cus at least it works .

 
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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 16:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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 The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 09:49 -0400, James Knott wrote:
 
  Mohsen Rezayatmand wrote:
   I agree, it is not a good idea to Raid swap space, it is also faster if
   you do not Raid the swap.
  
 
  Given the main reason for RAID is fault tolerance, what happens if the 
  drive 
  holding SWAP craps out and it's not RAID?  Would that not tend to cause 
  problems for a running system to lose everything in SWAP?  On a server I 
  have 
  at home, everything is on RAID 5, except /boot, which is RAID 1.
 
 Yes, but it has been proposed to mount swap on a raid 0, and that doesn't 
 have any fault tolerance, rather the contrary, and it is slower than two 
 swap stripes. That is my point, that swap on raid 0 is not recomended.
 

Why not use filesystem swap (using a file on the mounted partition) as
has been suggested a few times in the past? And it was also pointed out
that filesystem swap is fast like a raw swap partition. This would
effectively put swap on the raid set for the filesystem.

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Re: [opensuse] nxserver on OpenSuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Jerome R. Westrick
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 15:56:36 Scott Moseman wrote:
 On 10/9/07, Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Where do I go from here?  The nxclient should be ok, it works on
   several other (albeit all CentOS) boxes.  As far as I can tell, sshd
   is configured the same between CentOS and OpenSuSE.  Maybe
   some environmental variable I need to set/change in OpenSuSE?
 
  Try editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config and
  ensure that X11 forward is set to Yes:

 My CentOS servers do not have it setup...

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh]# cat ssh_config | grep ForwardX11
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   ForwardX11Trusted yes

 Neither did my OpenSuSE installation...

   oss103:/etc/ssh # cat ssh_config | grep ForwardX11
   # ForwardX11 no
   ForwardX11Trusted yes

 However, I did go ahead and try setting it, but got the same errors.

 Thanks,
 Scott

NxServer works out of the Box for me...
Maybe we can compare notes to see where the diference is...

first: Did do the nxsetup --install  thingy as described in the 
documentation?

Jerry

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Re: [opensuse] Re: IDE partitions [WAS: Re: legalities]

2007-10-10 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 10:24 -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:


on one drive. I like to make /home /tmp /var  /usr separate. Include the
primary / and you have used 15 partitions. Include one swap for all of them
and you now have used 16. Actually /swap is on another drive. I still have
about 80GB left on that disc and not enough partitions to use it  if I
continue with my current thinking.  What are the three that you use? Are you
not afraid of running out of space in the partitions which can grow so fast?


But why do you need separate partitions for all of those? All it adds is
complexity, unless you live and breathe 'dd', which is most comfortable with
partitions. You would have separate partitions if you wanted to share the /home
folder, for instance, but not if they are completely isolated. Just put them
all in / and be done with it, I say.


I don't see why we should put everything in /.



And why not share the swap partition? Nothing special goes in there.

I'm an OS junkie too, but four partitions per hard drive work fine.


How do you install half a dozen OSes in the same disk, without doing 
partitions?


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[opensuse] Way to detect the type of monitor, other than ddcprobe?

2007-10-10 Thread Xn Nooby
I have some very old hardware running essentially SUSE 9.1, and some
of the PC's have video cards that ddcprobe can't probe.  I get a
message that EDID read failed.  I need to be able to determine what
kind of monitor is connected to the PC, somehow.  Ddcprobe works great
on the machines with newer videocards, and it actually spits out the
vendors model description.  The old videocards do not seem to be able
to query the monitor.

Maybe an app that queries the monitor directly?

Or maybe a value somewhere in /proc/sys ?

Any suggestions?
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Re: [opensuse] Have video, finally, but no 3D for my Nvidia 8600GT

2007-10-10 Thread Lew Wolfgang
James Ruhsam wrote:
 Okay I guess that I was wrong.  I just rebooted into Linux and was
 greeted by a text login again.  After logging in I was unable to get
 startx to run.  I had to use the information from my last email to
 correct xorg.conf and get a window environment again.  The cp /etc...

Hi James,

I've only been loosely following your saga and am unsure if
you tried the manual way of installing the Nvidia drivers.  This
has always worked for me with multiple versions of SuSE on
multiple architectures.  It involves downloading a binary run
program from Nvidia for your architecture.  The pointer is here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

You then shut down your X server by issuing init 3.  But it
sounds like you're there all the time anyway!

Before running the Nividia install program you should probably
return your Xorg.conf to it's original form.  It might be saved
as Xorg.conf.install in /etc/X11.

Then follow the simple procedure that I've included below.
Once again, this has always worked for me and is why I will
use only Nvidia products if possible.  I've always had problems
with ATI.

from the Nvidia web site

People who aren't afraid of recompiling the nvidia kernel module or
even reinstalling the nvidia driver each time the kernel has been
updated and want or need to use the latest and greatest nvidia driver
can use the following steps 1-3. The others should use the
instructions above using YaST and skip the steps below.

1) Kernel sources must be installed and configured. Usually this means
installing the 'kernel-source', 'make' and 'gcc' packages with YaST2.

2) Use the nvidia installer for 100.14.19.

 sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run -q

3) Configure X.Org with

 sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia (0 is a digit, not a letter!)

NOTE: There is no need to try to enable 3D support. It's already
  enabled, when the nvidia driver is running.

IMPORTANT: You need to recompile and install the nvidia kernel module
   after each kernel update.

 sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.19-pkg2.run -K

Regards,
Lew Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] 2.6.22.9-ccj54-default ATI FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed Error

2007-10-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
 On Oct 9 2007 19:15, David C. Rankin wrote:
  I installed the 2.6.22.9-ccj54-default kernel via Yast and then rebuilt
 the ATI drivers by hand pursuant to
 http://en.opensuse.org/ATI_Driver_HOWTO#The_Hard_Way and
 http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html. Two issues:

  First, for some reason Yast/sax2 incorrectly recognizes the card as an
 ATI RV350 NP. This is incorrect. The card is correctly listed with glxinfo:
 
 I would not know what changed between 2.6.22.3 and .9 (I'm basing these
 off the suse build service), since their source repository is not open
 and I do not copy their kernels on a daily basis.
   If it happens to work with a kernel from
 /repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/i586||x86_64, let me know.
 Though I did not really change any of my patches between ccj53 and 54.
 
 17:13 //david/Rankin-P35a~ glxgears
 FGLTexMgr: open of shared memory object failed (Permission denied)
 __FGLTexMgrCreateObject: __FGLTexMgrSHMmalloc failed!!!

  Obviously it is a permission error, but I don't know where to start to
 track it down. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
 For Nvidia, there are /dev/nvidia*, I do not know if ati has something
 similar. (Probably not since it is trying to use SHM, try `ipcs`)

Hmm... I don't know what happened, but I did a software update last
night and this morning the malloc error is gone. It now works great as a
regular user and as root. Go figure?

Thanks for your reply Jan!


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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread David C. Rankin
Marcos David wrote:
 Hello,
 I've been working with 10.3 and I have a small problem: my laptop
 won't shutdown with openSUSE.
 
 shutdown -h now - reboots
 in KDE the shutdown option also reboots.
 Pressing the power button also reboots
 
 I can see that the shutdown sequence is initiated (init reports going
 to init level 0)
 but the laptop simply reboots.
 
 I know there are some weird ACPI problems, but since I don't know what
 they are, I was wondering if this is one those problems and, if so, is
 there a workaround?
 

Here is a new twist to the same problem in 10.2. On my Toshiba P35:

shutdown -h nowWorks
shutdown -r nowHangs requiring a hard restart

I have tried both with and without apci, no difference.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread Aniruddha
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 14:30 +0100, Marcos David wrote:
 First I would like some confirmation that this is indeed an unknow bug.
 
 I can supply logs if they are needed, or I can do some debugging
 
 Anyone else with this problem?
 
 
 
 Greets,
 MD

There has already has been bug filed for this problem, please add your
comments here:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331747


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Re: [opensuse] antialiasing vs subpixel-hinting

2007-10-10 Thread Istvan Gabor
  But on my 10.2 system even antialiasing did not work 
from the 
  beggining of using SUSE 10.2 (in KDE). If I set antialiasing 
to 
  full in KDE control center fonts look like if they would not 
be 
  antialiased at all. I have to switch to medium antialiasing 
for a 
  visible effect.
  I checked 10.3 and it seems this has not chenged in it. Full 
  antialiasing still does not work.
  Is this a KDE or SUSE bug? And when will it be fixed?
  TIA,
  IG


 
 Full anti-aliasing (aa) was disabled in default 10.2 install. 
Set aa
 to medium in default 10.2 and you will get fairly good aa. 
Follow the
 subpixel hinting page if you want to enable full aa.
 

Thanks David.
I could not remember that full antialiasing was disabled in 10.2 
by default.
But the point is it seems to me that this issue is still not fixed 
in 10.3.
Cheers,
IG





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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Kevan
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 06:35:31 am Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
 Jan Engelhardt wrote:
  On Oct 9 2007 20:45, Ben Kevan wrote:
  What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the
  2.6.23 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler?
 
  chances - not gonna happen too soon I presume (based on previous
  evidence). 10.3 got delivered with a fairly recent kernel (2.6.22), so it
  might come that 2.6.24 is the first to appear on the suse side. This is
  how it happened with 2.6.18(10.2)-2.6.20.

 A bit off-topic
 Jan:
 Are you planning on continuing building kernel RPMS with the ccj
 patchset for _10.2_ in the future, or will you be focusing on 10.3 ?

 Best regards

Ok, if it doesn't seem that 2.6.23 will be released as a build service for 
10.3, will the Scheduler Patch be allied and updated to the 2.6.22 branch?


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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread James Knott

David C. Rankin wrote:

Marcos David wrote:
  

Hello,
I've been working with 10.3 and I have a small problem: my laptop
won't shutdown with openSUSE.

shutdown -h now - reboots
in KDE the shutdown option also reboots.
Pressing the power button also reboots

I can see that the shutdown sequence is initiated (init reports going
to init level 0)
but the laptop simply reboots.

I know there are some weird ACPI problems, but since I don't know what
they are, I was wondering if this is one those problems and, if so, is
there a workaround?




Here is a new twist to the same problem in 10.2. On my Toshiba P35:

shutdown -h nowWorks
shutdown -r nowHangs requiring a hard restart

I have tried both with and without apci, no difference.


  

I just use halt.  Works every time.


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:14:55AM -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 October 2007 06:35:31 am Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
  Jan Engelhardt wrote:
   On Oct 9 2007 20:45, Ben Kevan wrote:
   What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the
   2.6.23 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler?
  
   chances - not gonna happen too soon I presume (based on previous
   evidence). 10.3 got delivered with a fairly recent kernel (2.6.22), so it
   might come that 2.6.24 is the first to appear on the suse side. This is
   how it happened with 2.6.18(10.2)-2.6.20.
 
  A bit off-topic
  Jan:
  Are you planning on continuing building kernel RPMS with the ccj
  patchset for _10.2_ in the future, or will you be focusing on 10.3 ?
 
  Best regards
 
 Ok, if it doesn't seem that 2.6.23 will be released as a build service for 
 10.3, will the Scheduler Patch be allied and updated to the 2.6.22 branch?

I do not think so.

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Shutdown problem

2007-10-10 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 11:01:13 am Aniruddha wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 14:30 +0100, Marcos David wrote:
  First I would like some confirmation that this is indeed an unknow bug.
 
  I can supply logs if they are needed, or I can do some debugging
 
  Anyone else with this problem?

  Greets,
  MD

 There has already has been bug filed for this problem, please add your
 comments here:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331747

You may want to see those too:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299882
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=308812

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Re: [opensuse] Way to detect the type of monitor, other than ddcprobe?

2007-10-10 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 10:17:10 am Xn Nooby wrote:
 I have some very old hardware running essentially SUSE 9.1, and some
 of the PC's have video cards that ddcprobe can't probe.  I get a
 message that EDID read failed.  I need to be able to determine what
 kind of monitor is connected to the PC, somehow.  Ddcprobe works great
 on the machines with newer videocards, and it actually spits out the
 vendors model description.  The old videocards do not seem to be able
 to query the monitor.

 Maybe an app that queries the monitor directly?

 Or maybe a value somewhere in /proc/sys ?

 Any suggestions?

Classic system:
Take monitor model from label on the rear and ask:
1. Manufacturer web site
2. Google

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Re: [opensuse] nxserver on OpenSuSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Scott Moseman
On 10/10/07, Jerome R. Westrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Where do I go from here?  The nxclient should be ok, it works on
   several other (albeit all CentOS) boxes.  As far as I can tell, sshd
   is configured the same between CentOS and OpenSuSE.  Maybe
   some environmental variable I need to set/change in OpenSuSE?

 NxServer works out of the Box for me...
 Maybe we can compare notes to see where the diference is...

 first: Did do the nxsetup --install  thingy as described in the
 documentation?


Per http://en.opensuse.org/FreeNX_Server_HOWTO, I ran...

# nxsetup --install --setup-nomachine-key --clean

Here's my versions...

# rpm -qa | grep NX
FreeNX-0.7.0-21
NX-2.1.0-35

My client is version 3.0.0-* running under Windows XP.  Again, it's
working for my CentOS machines (which I'm actually nx'd into right now
to type this message).  I have another OpenSuSE 10.3 that I put on a
laptop, maybe I will run through it on that machine to see if I can
duplicate the issue or if it's related to this specific installation.

Thanks,
Scott
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Sloan
Ben Kevan wrote:
 What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the 2.6.23 
 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler? I am not talking about Vanilla 
 Kernel, but a suse built kernel? 
   

FYI, I'm running the vanilla 2.6.23 on my 10.2 desktop, and it seems
quite nice - as long as you don't mind doing without drbd and apparmor,
the vanilla kernel works fine - otherwise you could patch it by hand if
need be.

Joe


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[opensuse] Accessibility questions

2007-10-10 Thread suseROCKS
Is there a forum where I can participate in discussions on accessibility
issues for people with disabilities?   I've been using Suse since 9.3
and now I'm on 10.3.  Sadly, accessibility for visually impaired people
like me has gone down hill since 9.3.   I'd like to get involved somehow
and offer my feedback.

Thanks,


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Ben Kevan
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 09:54:13 am Sloan wrote:
 Ben Kevan wrote:
  What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the
  2.6.23 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler? I am not talking about
  Vanilla Kernel, but a suse built kernel?

 FYI, I'm running the vanilla 2.6.23 on my 10.2 desktop, and it seems
 quite nice - as long as you don't mind doing without drbd and apparmor,
 the vanilla kernel works fine - otherwise you could patch it by hand if
 need be.

 Joe

Do you know where you can download the SUSE Patches? I was under the 
impression they were not avaliable. 

Also, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead with the Vanilla.. Now I just gotta 
brush up on my Kernel skills.. I've loved the patched stuff from SUSE, but I 
think .23 has enough changes for me to give it a go. 
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:11:48AM -0700, Ben Kevan wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 October 2007 09:54:13 am Sloan wrote:
  Ben Kevan wrote:
   What's the changes of us getting a suse built build service for the
   2.6.23 kernel to help utilize the new scheduler? I am not talking about
   Vanilla Kernel, but a suse built kernel?
 
  FYI, I'm running the vanilla 2.6.23 on my 10.2 desktop, and it seems
  quite nice - as long as you don't mind doing without drbd and apparmor,
  the vanilla kernel works fine - otherwise you could patch it by hand if
  need be.
 
  Joe
 
 Do you know where you can download the SUSE Patches? I was under the 
 impression they were not avaliable. 
 
 Also, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead with the Vanilla.. Now I just 
 gotta 
 brush up on my Kernel skills.. I've loved the patched stuff from SUSE, but I 
 think .23 has enough changes for me to give it a go. 

I guess that openSUSE Factory at one point in time will upgrade to 2.6.23.
Perhaps ask on opensuse-kernel (cced).

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse] Fonts Look strange on openSUSE 10.3

2007-10-10 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 23:14 -0400, darko g wrote:
 On 10/9/07, Kevin Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  :) No, you're not weird. I've heard the same from many people. I think
  maybe it's something with my system, since some people complained back
  in Dec. when 10.2 came out that it's fonts were horrible, but on my
  computer they were great.

After I installed 10.3, I noticed that my fonts were ugly on a VAIO
laptop (1280x800). I also noticed that the physical size of the display
(in mm) was set wrong. After correcting this in xorg.conf, the fonts
looked much better.

I then did the suggested change with freetype2. I did not see very much
improvement. Some, but nothing compared to what I got with a proper
display size configuration.

Maybe those who are happy have a display that gets physical size set
right during install?

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Sloan
Ben Kevan wrote:
 Do you know where you can download the SUSE Patches? I was under the 
 impression they were not avaliable. 
   

That I'm not sure about - I'd guess you could extract them from the
kernel source rpm.
 Also, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead with the Vanilla.. Now I just 
 gotta 
 brush up on my Kernel skills.. I've loved the patched stuff from SUSE, but I 
 think .23 has enough changes for me to give it a go. 
   
It was fairly easy to leverage suse features to move to the new kernel.

make cloneconfig
save .config file
install new kernel source
copy .config to new kernel src dir
make oldconfig
make
make modules_install
make install

Boot into 2.6.23 -

Joe




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Re: [opensuse] Kernel 2.6.23 release today. Likelyhood of openSUSE 10.3 Build Service?

2007-10-10 Thread Sloan
Ben Kevan wrote:

 Do you know where you can download the SUSE Patches? I was under the 
 impression they were not avaliable. 
   
FWIW cfs is available as a patch to 2.6.22 - I haven't tried to patch
the suse kernel with this, but it should be possible, with perhaps some
manual patching required in the event of conficts due to the suse
patches to 2.6.22.

Joe


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